1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: I get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The When Two Tribes Go to Woo. Addition, 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: as we look ahead to Sunday's AFC Championship Game rematch 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: between the Bengals and Kansas City Chiefs, coming up a 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: bucket list interview for me as I discuss round three 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: of the Joe Burrow Patrick Mahomes matchup with the Great 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: Jim Nance from CBS. We'll hear from Jamar Chase on 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: returning from his hip fracture and Ted Harris on why 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: he walked off the field spewing f bombs at Tennessee. 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: And finally, and this week's Know the Faux segment, I'll 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: pick the brain of former Chief's offensive lineman Joe Valerio. 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Alta Fiber, future 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: proof fiber Internet capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds designed 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: to take your home, business, and community to a new level. 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: Elevate your connection with Alta Fiber. 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In Game one, 31 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: the Bengals trailed fourteen nothing twenty one Evan and twenty 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: eight fourteen before rallying to win at a walk off 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: field goal at the end of regulation by Evan McPherson. 34 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: In Game two, the Bengals trailed twenty one to three 35 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: with less than two minutes to go in the half 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: before fighting back again. This time, the game went to 37 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: overtime before a Von Bell interception led to another game 38 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: winner by Money Matt four years ago. He was a 39 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: senior in high school in tiny Fort Payne, Alabama. Now, 40 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: the Bengal Super Bowl chances rest on his right foot. 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: The kick is up. Yeah, yeah, good coffin nails. Bam bam. 42 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: That is unblievable. The Cincinnati Bengals bound from behind on 43 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: the road. Unbelievable. Dan, it is no fluke. It is 44 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: a fact. The Cincinnati Bengals are headed to Super Bowl 45 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: fifty six. They just redefined the word resilient. The winds 46 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: stopped Patrick Mahomes from getting to the Super Bowl for 47 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: the third consecutive year, and one of the biggest reasons 48 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: why is that Joe Burrow matched him throw for throw 49 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: in their two meetings. Burrow through for six hundred ninety 50 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: six yards Mahome through for five thirty four. Joe had 51 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: more touchdown passes six to five and fewer interceptions two 52 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: to one. Here's what Tyler Boyd had to say this 53 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: week about the matchup between the twenty seven year old 54 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: Mahomes and the twenty five year old Burrow. I think 55 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: I kind of looked back of it as like a 56 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Manning and Brady you know, because you kind of can't 57 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: stop him. You know, it's gonna come down to whoever 58 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: um excel and secondvantage of their opportunities in drives, you know, 59 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: and score points, you know, with these are the type 60 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: of games when we play. We got to care of 61 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: the football and um, don't don't don't, don't turn it over? 62 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: Who's manning and who's Brady? I mean, is Burrow in 63 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: my homes? You know, I wouldn't compare them, but I 64 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: know those are two guys that you know has records 65 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: for the fastest two quarterbacks to reach ten thousand yards. 66 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: So I mean it's kind of hard to stop Burrow. 67 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to stop Mahomes. So I mean 68 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think Burrow won 69 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: up two up teams. So yeah, so whichever one you 70 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: want to pick, whoever got the most wins and there 71 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: you go. Sunday's game will have a huge TV audience 72 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: at four twenty five on CBS, and this week I 73 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: checked an item off my interviewing bucket list by catching 74 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: up with a play by play announcer for this week's game. 75 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: Remember the famous Saturday Night Live bit when Chris Farley 76 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: is interviewing Paul McCartney, and he's so starstruck that he 77 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: can barely get out of question. Well, this interview might 78 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: go the same way as I have the opportunity to 79 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: visit with one of my broadcasting heroes, Jim Nance. Jim, 80 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: You and Tony called both Bengals Chiefs games back in January. 81 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Obviously they were thrillers. Have you had this one circled 82 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: down the schedule since the NFL schedule came out in May? Absolutely? 83 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: And Dan, thank you for that build up. My gosh, 84 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm not worthy, but I really truly appreciate you so much. 85 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: You're an absolute pros pro and it's an honor to 86 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: be on here with you. I've been thinking about this 87 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: game since since before the schedule came out, because it 88 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: was one of those games I was afraid we might lose. 89 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that it landed in our inventory. 90 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: So into April when the league did announce what games 91 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: are going to go on what date, I was thrilled 92 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: to see that we had this in the doubleheader window 93 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: to open up December. It's big, it's gigantic, and it's 94 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: pretty amazing to be able to have a matchup technically 95 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: three times in one calendar year for teams that aren't 96 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: even in the same division. I'll be in the same conference, 97 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: but it's a rarity, and they have been down to 98 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: the wire thrillers the first two and I expect it 99 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: will be the same thing come Sunday. So earlier this week, 100 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd said that Burrow versus Mahomes is the new 101 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: version of Brady versus Manning. You called a bunch of 102 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: those games. Does this feel similar to you? Yeah? I 103 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: think I called somewhere around eleven or twelve of their 104 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: seventeen matchups. So you know, the thing that's missing here 105 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: is just time. I mean they're still in their twenties. 106 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean they're still in their basically in their mid twenties, 107 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: so it's a little early to go that far with it. 108 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate what Tyler's trying to say. The other thing 109 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: you have here is you have a lot of really 110 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: young stars at that position. You can't take anything away 111 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: from what Joe's accomplished so far. It's enormous course Patrick 112 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: as well, But you've got Josh Allen sitting out there, 113 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: and you know you've got You've got Lamar Jackson and 114 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: you've got Justin Herbert and there are others, So it's 115 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: it's a little early, but it's on track, I think, 116 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: is what he's trying to really say. They're on track 117 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: because they're playing in super Bowls and they've played now 118 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: in three between them, so yes, it has a chance 119 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: to potentially be there if their teams keep winning. And 120 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: these guys number nine and number fifteen, they know nothing 121 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: but how to win. One of the things I admire 122 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: so much about your work is the ability to say 123 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: just the right thing in the big moments. And here's 124 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: what you said when Evan McPherson hit the field goal 125 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: that sent the Bengals to the Super Bowl. This could 126 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: be a sentence that a month ago would have sounded incomprehensible. 127 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: McPherson from thirty one yards out and Cincinnati has headed 128 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. The word incomprehensible was perfect. Were 129 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: you and Tony just stunned by what you had witnessed? 130 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say, especially since it was 131 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: twenty one to three right before the half, and you've 132 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: got Kansas City at home, so you don't expect anything 133 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: like that to turn around that quickly. At Arrowhead. I 134 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: had interestingly, another twenty one to three lead in an 135 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: AFC championship game, And that gets back to your last question. 136 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: That was Brady and Manning, and that was in the 137 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: first months of two thousand and seven. But in this case, 138 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: Indianapolis was the team that was down twenty one to 139 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: three and playing at home, so they were able to 140 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: come back stitch it together. They kicked the field goal 141 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: before the half to make it twenty one to six, 142 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: and Peyton led them back to a thirty eight thirty 143 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: four victory. So at the time it was the biggest 144 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: comeback in championship game history. Only to see the Bengals 145 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: all these years later come and do the same thing. 146 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: But the Cincinnati wins even more impressive because it was 147 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: on the road. It wasn't just any stadium. It was 148 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: in the most raucous, highest descibel level stadium supposedly in 149 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: the entire league. So it was an amazing achievement. But 150 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, you think about their playoff run and how 151 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: they beat the Raiders and how they want it Tennessee, 152 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: and how they worked their way through these games and 153 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: their late season surge, including that regular season matchup at 154 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: since against KC. It was. It was a storybook. I mean, 155 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: it really was. But you know they're that good that there. 156 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: They stumbled out of the gates this year, but seven 157 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: out of nine have gone their way since and oh 158 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: and two start and they're good. I mean, this team 159 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: has really come together earlier than it came together last year. Jim, 160 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: after the game, you interviewed Mike Brown on the stage. 161 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: And Mike is not Jerry Jones. He's a private person. 162 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't do a lot of interviews. Have you interacted 163 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: with him much over the years, and what did you 164 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: think of that moment. I've had some really special times 165 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: with him, and he probably doesn't remember them, but I do. 166 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: And I've met up with him a few times standing 167 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: on the sideline when we've been able to watch practice, 168 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: and I've always been intrigued and I've always respect that 169 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: the man. I don't think he gets any kind of 170 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: due nationally because you said it. He's not a guy 171 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: that's going to try to put himself out there and 172 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: build up his name. He's not seeking any attention. I'm 173 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: not saying the other guys are seeking attention. It's just 174 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: he's a background guy. He's a football guy. And I've 175 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: always enjoyed him, I really have. And it's just there's 176 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: something about him that is so basic, so normal, so 177 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: much like the guy next door. I've just I've admired him. 178 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: You know, in some ways, I've I tried to model 179 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: my career in some of those same principles. You know, 180 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: the game is the thing, and not trying to draw 181 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: attention on what I'm doing. That's at least what I'm 182 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: always internalizing. And I think that's what Mike Brown is 183 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: all about. And he's been successful for a long time. 184 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: Every team's had lean years, every franchise has. But you know, 185 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals have had their share of Super Bowl appearances too. 186 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: And you know there are a lot of a lot 187 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: of teams that we know that have never even gotten 188 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: to the game. And anyway, he has put together this 189 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: organizations put together a pretty darn good nucleus. Right now, 190 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: I'll give you one other example. What he did, what 191 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: he did with was Zach, what he did with his 192 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: coach to be able to to ride out those first 193 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: couple of years and when five or six games the 194 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: first two years total. But they have faith that this 195 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: was the right guy to lead them and He's impressive 196 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: until you got an impressive coach there in Cincinnati. So 197 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: Mike saw it, mister Brown saw it, and here they 198 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: are and making ready to make another run. We are 199 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: visiting with the great Jim Nance. This is not the 200 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: first Bengals game that you and Tony have called this year. 201 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: You had Bengals Cowboys back in Week two. Cincinnati obviously 202 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: fell to oh and two and they lost that game. 203 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: They're seven and two cents. What do you think of 204 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: the way the Bengals are playing right now? Well, the 205 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: big difference I think it's early in the year, Dan, 206 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: is that the offensive line has stabilized now and they've 207 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: figured it out through good coaching. They have figured out 208 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: how to how to build, how to grow, and how 209 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: to become a unit in sync in concert with one another. 210 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: There have been on some other guys that have stepped up. 211 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: What t Higgins did over the last month was pretty impressive. 212 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: What Trent Irwin tid stepping in was impressive. What Somaji's 213 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: done out of the backfield with with mixing out last 214 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: week and the week before that in the Pittsburgh game, 215 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: there are a lot of there's a lot of depth there. 216 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing, and they just needed that 217 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: offensive line to gel on that side. And you know, defensively, 218 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: I think they're they've also found themselves stabilized. They've had 219 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: some guys that didn't play earlier in the year that 220 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: are playing, you know, a lot of snaps now and 221 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: playing some good football. Typically, the day before the game, 222 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: the broadcast crew has the opportunity to visit with some 223 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: of the coaches and play. Can you describe what a 224 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow Tony Romo meeting is like the meeting of 225 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: number Nine's? Uh, it's it's been good. Joe is a 226 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: mature guy, you know, for as young as he really is, 227 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's he's confident, but he's not 228 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: over confident. And Tony is one of these just individuals 229 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: that likes to build people up. And I love that. 230 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: It's one of the many things that I admire about 231 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: my teammate. I love the guy myself, and we have 232 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: so much fun together. But when he's when he's in 233 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: a room with young quarterbacks, he's rooting for him and 234 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: I think he wants them to know that he's on 235 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: their side, and he likes to just I'd like to 236 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: sit back and listen to the two of them talk. 237 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 1: Because Tony, as you could tell, sees everything. By the 238 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: way Joe's he's way beyond his years in terms of 239 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: like understanding what's going on to field and seeing things 240 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: in the game slowing down and all of that. Throws 241 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: a beautiful football. I know Tony admires that too, but 242 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a good meeting of the minds, 243 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: it really is. Jimmy famously have a replica of the 244 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: Part three seventh hole at Pebble Beach at your home 245 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: in California. I understand that Patrick Mahomes has played it. 246 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: Did you learn anything about Patrick Mahomes from his visit? Well, 247 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: Patrick came out like the week before COVID hit in 248 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and he was a wonderful guy. Brittany was 249 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: with him and we ended up playing two rounds of golf, 250 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: real golf, not the golf in my backyard. We played 251 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: Cypress Point Club and we played Pebble Beach. The first 252 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: hole at Cypress Point is not easy, and he hit 253 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: it over the green on a like a severe downhill 254 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: lie with a back hole location with the green running 255 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: away from him. So to pitch it and keep it 256 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: on the green. Already gonna get it on the green. 257 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: Once it landed the green, pretty good odds it was 258 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: going to run all the way down to the front 259 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: off the green, back down the fairway. He pitched it in. 260 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: First of all, a home's magic. So thought, oh, that's interesting. 261 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Now I've been playing golf that long. And when we 262 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: were playing back then, he didn't hit a driver. He 263 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: hit three wood. He did not how to hit his driver, 264 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: but the three wood would suffice. I mean, hit that 265 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: three wood about three hundred and thirty yards. I'm not kidding. 266 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: He could pound it. But then he did come to 267 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: the house and hit some balls in the backyard. He 268 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: trying desperately to make a hole in one. I have 269 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: a huge boulder there that has the names engrave for 270 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: those who have made a hole in one guests. I 271 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: don't put my own name on there. Of course, I've 272 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: hit thousands of balls. There's out of dumb luck. I've 273 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: made it a few times. I have been twenty two 274 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: holes and one by guests. And Patrick, unfortunately is not 275 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: on the Rock of Fame yet. He came close a 276 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: couple of times. I've got the video of it. We 277 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: had a blast. I will say this is a terrible 278 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: name dropping on my part, Dan, but I've had some 279 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: really super NFL quarterbacks who have given it their best 280 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: shot that just because they love to come out to 281 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: Pebble and I spend my summers there and you know 282 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: it's a bucket list place. But whether it would be 283 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: Patrick or Josh Allen, who's had many a go at, 284 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:30,359 Speaker 1: it hasn't made it justin Herbert Ben, Roethlisberger, Joe Montana. 285 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean there are some serious there's some serious talent 286 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: that's been up there. Romo made it. He's the only 287 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: quarterback that has made it, but there are others too 288 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: from around the league that have given it their best. 289 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: We haven't had Joe Burrow there. But if Joe ever 290 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: hears you know about this, about this little chat, I 291 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: hope he those divided and I'm there in February, June, 292 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: and July. All he's got to do is call me 293 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: and you have my number. He is just starting out 294 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: as a golfer, so he might be intimidated, but I 295 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: will let him know that the invitation has been extended. Jim, 296 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: this isn't my cause. My cleats weekend and you won't 297 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: be wearing cleats in the booth, but I know if 298 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: you were, what your cause would be. You have been 299 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: really involved in the fight against Alzheimer's disease. Can you 300 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: describe some of the things that you and your wife 301 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: have done well. We opened up a research institute in Houston. 302 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: Thank you for bringing that up, Dan, It's truly my cause. 303 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: Fifty two weeks a year and virtually every day of 304 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: my life, I'm involved with what's going on down at 305 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: Houston Methodist Hospital, which is the home of the NANCE 306 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: National Alzheimer Center. By the way, the NANCE is for 307 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: not the one you're speaking to, but for my dad, 308 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: my late father. I named it after my dad. I 309 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: wrote the check. I had a vision of how to 310 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: open it up, how I wanted this to to have 311 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: a place in the world of research and building a 312 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: gigantic neurological institute. This is not a foundation. This is 313 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: actual bricks and mortar. And I'm more proud of that, 314 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: outside of my family goals and wishes, than anything I've 315 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: ever done in my life. Is being a part of 316 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: the team. I'm not a scientist, I'm not a neurologist, 317 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: not a doctor. I can talk it a little bit 318 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: for sure about what we're going through and what we're 319 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: researching and what trial programs are going through. But I'm 320 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: a cheerleader. I try to be a visionary in terms 321 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: of bringing people together and helping create funding opportunities. But 322 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: the Nance Center, which gives my dad a voice that 323 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: he never had. It's being heard around the world and 324 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: we have nine trials that are ongoing right now. We 325 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: have one that we just recently hit on. It was 326 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal that this was the first 327 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: breakthrough discovery in Alzheimer's treatment ever, and we were one 328 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: of the few places on the planet that was trusted 329 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: with administering that trial at our research institute. So a 330 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: lot of NFL involved mcdan, a lot of former players, coaches, etc. 331 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: That confidentially reach out to me and want to come 332 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: down to the Nance Center to be diagnosed or be 333 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: put on a trial and have a treatment program. And yeah, 334 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: it's if you want to find out more about it, 335 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Nance Friends dot Org is where you can find about it. 336 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: It is my cause, and I'll tell you why it's 337 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: my cause. It's it's a it's a it was a 338 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: disease that defeated my dad. The most robust personality, life 339 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: of the party, kind of guy you could ever see, 340 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: and it brought him down to a guy who couldn't 341 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: even recognize his own family, stricken at the age of 342 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: sixty six. So, as a son is an only son 343 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: who carries his name and was bequeathed his voice. I 344 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: want his voice to be heard through me, and I 345 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: want to be able to say that I was a 346 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: part of the team that helped defeat the opponent that 347 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: defeated my dad. That is my mission on earth, outside 348 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: of my family goals. That's my goal, that's my cause. 349 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: That is powerful stuff. Jim, this has been a real 350 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: treat for me. I can't thank you enough for doing it. 351 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: Have a great game on Sunday. I look forward to it, 352 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: probably the first of a few appearances at the Jungle 353 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: before this season is over. It's a big one and 354 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: this game will dictate how often Tony and I come 355 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: back come January. But Dan, great admire view you and 356 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: who you are in your work, and let's do this 357 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: again the next time we have a Bengals game. That 358 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: interview was done via zoom. There are about three people 359 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: watching on the Bengals end and when Jim Nance appeared 360 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: on the screen. He said, hello friends. It was like 361 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: the final round of the Masters was about to begin. 362 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth podcast is brought to you by Bengals 363 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: Picks Ultimate Bengals. They're free to play with tickets and 364 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: side merchandise up for grabs. Find both inside the Bengals app. 365 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 1: In the first meeting between the Bengals and Chiefs last year, 366 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase had the greatest receiving performance in team history, 367 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: with eleven catches for two hundred sixty six yards and 368 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: three touchdowns. That was the most yards in a game 369 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: by a Bengals receiver and the most ever buy an 370 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: NFL rookie. Jamara's missed the last four games with a 371 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: hairline hip fracture, but all signs point to him being 372 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: back on Sunday. I felt really good last week. I 373 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 1: just want to give him myself, you know, the right 374 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: amount of time. I don't want another rush anything. So 375 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: I felt good last week, running straight and you know, 376 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: making cuts. Yes, last week, you know, I even tried 377 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: to make cuts on my leg hard as I could. 378 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't really feel nothing. So it's just 379 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: want to be comfortable, you know, you don't want to 380 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: send somebody on the field that's not comfortable playing yet. 381 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, a hundred percent player, 382 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to send them. You know somebody out 383 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: there that's not ready to play, that's all. You're not 384 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: worried about tickets, not worried about that. I'm just worried 385 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: about being ready to play in ready to provide for 386 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: what they need me to do. Chase was listed as 387 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: a limited participant in practice on Wednesday and Thursday, as 388 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: was Joe Mixon, who was likely to return after missing 389 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: one game due to a concussion. The Bengals Booth podcast 390 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: is brought to you by pay Corps. 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I spoke to Carris about it 401 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: this week. Things got a little testy at the end 402 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: of the game last week when the Bengals were in 403 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: the victory formation and the Titans kind of tried to 404 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: jump the snap and blow it up. Is that against 405 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: the unwritten rules of football to do that? I mean, 406 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: there's a certain protocol, but they didn't want to concede. 407 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: That's their right. So, you know, just glad we got 408 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: out there of the victory. You were captured on camera 409 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: fired up walking off the field. They can't repeat exactly 410 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: what she said, but Zach Taylor was asked about it 411 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: this week and he said, Ted, carrist is going to 412 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: be a Cincinnati legend. How did you become aware of 413 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: the fact that that went viral? My dad? I was 414 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: talking to my dad for the game and said, ask 415 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: me if I was all right and if I knew 416 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: I was trending on Twitter. So that's kind of It's 417 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: a weird, vulnerable feeling and everyone's talking about you online. 418 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: But glad it was overall positive thanks to Cincinnati fans 419 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: great reaction, but you know, you don't want to always 420 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: live like that. But you know it was fired up, 421 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: big physical victory, so glad to get out of there 422 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: with a win. Now it's all Chiefs. You were miked 423 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: up way back in Week four for the Miami game. 424 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: My favorite part was when you were walking off the 425 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: field after the clinching touchdown. You've got your arms raised 426 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: in triumph and you accidentally clock one of the officials. 427 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: Was the contact pretty good? Well? The only thing I 428 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: was worried about was it is illegal to touching officials, 429 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: so it could be potentially been a fifteen year AP penalty. 430 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: Obviously in that context it wouldn't have been. But uh no, 431 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: that wasn't. I mean, obviously he dropped the ball, so 432 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: it was enough to to to cause a fumble by 433 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: the ref. So I just want to make sure that 434 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: you know we didn't do anything dicey at the end there. 435 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: I want to make sure you knew it was inadverted 436 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: because you know, I've seen stuff like that. Inadverted shots 437 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: end up in fifteen year A penalties, and you don't 438 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: want to live like that. We're chatting with Ted Carris. 439 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: You're eleven games getting ready for twelve in your first 440 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: season with the Bengals at this point, you know your teammates. Well, 441 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: tell me something about Joe Burrow that's really stood out 442 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: to you so far. I think his uh, you know, 443 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: attention to detail is obsession with victory is awesome. He's 444 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: a great chess player. I think that's pretty admirable, and 445 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, just a pleasure to be around. Very you know, 446 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: one of the most successible superstars I've ever been around. 447 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: Have you competed in chess? No, I'm not going to 448 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: him and Kappa compete, So they're they're very good. I'm 449 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: more of a more of a Katan player if you're 450 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: playing Setlers of Katan. Yeah, we've got that at home. 451 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: So Lap's nickname for Alex Kappa's Phi Beta Kappa. It 452 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: sounds like if he's a good chess player, that might 453 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: be accurate. Yeah, I think that's well, that's more of 454 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: a nod to uh animal house, I think. But yeah, No, 455 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: Caps extraordinary been a huge part of our line success. 456 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: We would not be in the same position without Ox Kappa. So, 457 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: speaking of the line success, I interviewed Charles Davis from 458 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: CBS last week. He had the game He also called 459 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: the season opener against the Steelers. So I asked him 460 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: about the lines improvement and what he's seen. He said, 461 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals are now a top third offensive line in 462 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. So thirty two teams, that's roughly top ten. 463 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: What do you think, you know, it's a great compliment. 464 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: I think that you know, the team is playing, you know, 465 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: the unit's playing well, obviously well enough to win in November, 466 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: but we got to keep it going. Uh, there's no 467 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, magic pill that's just going to transfer over 468 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: good performance. Besides, you know, good practice, attention to detail, 469 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: and everyone being prepared, ready to go. So it's Kansas 470 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: City this week. A former roommate is on the other roster. Correct, Yeah, 471 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: Joe Tuoney stood up in my wedding, one of my 472 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: best friends. Uh Dayton Archbishop alter Alum. So excited to 473 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: see him. We'll see his family after the game. I'm excited. 474 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: They're great family friends, amazing people. You know, it'll be 475 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: nice to shake his hand with a victory. Hygi two 476 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: hit it off so well, and we came in together. 477 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: We were drafted together. He was basically the first guy 478 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: I met. We're very similar, you know, Midwest o lineman 479 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: have a lot of similar interests, but you know I 480 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: had a good, you know, back and forth, good dichotomy 481 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: of interest. So it was amazing live with them for 482 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: four years and you know, always rooting for the best. 483 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: Glad he got to, you know, cash in with that 484 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: big deal and he's still playing, you know, as good 485 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: as anyone in the league. Are you a jersey swap 486 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: kind of guy? Well, that happened this week. I have 487 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: about sixty jerseys Dan in my collection. Mostly I just 488 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: buy him and have my teammates signed him, so they'll 489 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: all go open my bar. At some point I'm gonna 490 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: open a bar up. So that's what I can't. Can't 491 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: put it that many of my house. I would look 492 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: like an idiot. Yeah, it'll be wall to wall in 493 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: the bar. It'll look great. A couple more questions for 494 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: Ted Carris. According to Pro Football Focus, the top ranked 495 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman in the NFL isn't Aaron Donald. It 496 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: isn't Jeffrey Simmons, who you faced last week. It isn't 497 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: Cam Hayward. It is the guy you're going to face 498 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: this week. Chris Jones is a brute strength? Is it quickness. 499 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: What is it about this guy that makes him so 500 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: tough premiere player? I think you know, one thing people 501 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: estimate is how big he is. He has six six 502 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: very long, very very long and strong. So we're gonna 503 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: have to bring our best. You know, he has a 504 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: good array of moves, he has a good toolbox, very 505 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: savvy player, played a long time at a high level, 506 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be another test for us to you know, 507 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: perform absolutely very best. You've been making the media rounds 508 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: recently to promote a worthy cause, the sins He hat 509 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: and what it raises money for, or give us the 510 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: backstory of the sinc He hat. Since he hat is 511 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: you've probably seen it on a couple of guys. It's 512 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: the you know, black wider orange hats that'd say since 513 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: and it benefits the village of Mariachi, Indianapolis, which provides 514 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: independent living and social connections and employment opportunities for adults 515 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: with developmental disabilities. So autism downstoner mean the most common. 516 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: And that will be on your shoes this week for 517 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: my cause, my cleats is that correct? That will be 518 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: that will be on my shoes. They'll be up for 519 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: auction two this spring. Off the casino night in Indianapolis, 520 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: so hopefully a couple of since A residents make their 521 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: way out there because last year's also will be up 522 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: for auction. We didn't have one last year obviously, had 523 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: to cancel that a few times due to COVID protocol. 524 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time, best of luck this week, and 525 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: you were great as a TV weather man. Thank you 526 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: so much. Dan. Let's go who Day. Yes. While making 527 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: an appearance to discuss the sinci hat on Local twelve 528 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: news and Cincinnati, Ted helped give the weather forecast. If 529 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: you would like to check it out, just do a 530 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: search for Ted Carriss weather Man. The Bengals Booth podcast 531 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: is brought to you by Kettering Health, the official healthcare 532 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: provider of the Bengals. With more than one hundred twenty 533 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: care facilities and fifteen hundred care providers, Kettering Health is 534 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: committed to guiding you to your best health. Visit Kettering 535 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: health dot org to learn more. Now time for this 536 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: week's Know the Faux segment. Joe Valerio spent four years 537 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman in Kansas City and currently covers 538 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs as one of the hosts of the Believe 539 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: in Chiefs podcast Joe and the Chiefs traded Tyree Hill. 540 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people wondered that the Kansas 541 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: City offense was going to dip a little bit. Well, 542 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: let's see their number one in yards, they're number one 543 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: in points, just under thirty a game. How are they 544 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: doing it? Well? I gotta give them a lot of credit. 545 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: I give Brett Veach and Andy Reid and on the 546 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: offense and defensive coordinators, and also you got to throw 547 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: special teams in there as well. You know, they're really 548 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: good at diversifying when folks leave, and if you take 549 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: the Tyreek example that you you know that you brought 550 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: up Dan, they diversified their wide receiving core and I 551 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: thought that was a real positive for them. I felt like, 552 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: we'll call it a two trick pony because you always 553 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: got to throw Travis Kelsey in the mix, right. They 554 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: were getting to the point where I think defensive coordinators 555 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: were starting to get on track with what they were 556 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: doing and what the playbook looked like. And I think 557 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: this was you know the magic of Andy Reid and 558 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: what Brett Feach has been able to do. And I 559 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: guess the best term not to overuse the term was. 560 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: I think they diversified in a way that caused a 561 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: lot of defensive coordinators to take a step back and 562 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: rewrite what they were going to do. Because I look 563 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: at that receiving core that's been able to withstand injury. 564 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Right when somebody gets hurt, another guy steps up. You 565 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: know they've got finally, you know, in like an MVS, 566 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: they've got the back shoulder throw that Patrick can make. 567 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: You know, I call those the Randy Moss types, you know, 568 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: the Terrell Owens types. You know they've got you know, 569 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: they've got the sort of the possession received in like 570 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: a Justin Watson, who's you know, kind of he's gonna 571 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: get open, He's gonna find an open spot, he's gonna 572 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna be able to get in an 573 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: area where you know he needs to be. Juju is 574 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: in that same camp where Juju is more of a 575 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: smaller possession type receiver, very short handed, and you know, 576 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: and I think that's what they were able to do. 577 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: And of course you always will have Rcole Hardman as 578 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: as sort of the speed guy. And I think it's 579 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: given them enough, it's given them more pages in the playbook. 580 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: So anyway, long answer to a short question, Dan, that's 581 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: what I think about Tyreek Hill leaving. It's what they've 582 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: been able to do offensively. Has settled a lot of 583 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: those questions and demonstrated that they could do it without him, although, hey, 584 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: he was a big piece of the puzzle to miss 585 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there are times when Andy Reid Eric 586 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: the enemy aren't missing him a ton. Joe, you played 587 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: offensive line in the NFL. My broadcast partner Dave Lappam 588 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: played offensive line in the NFL. He says, in a 589 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: normal game, you try to stop the run and then 590 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: you defend the pass. He's says against the Chiefs, it's 591 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: the reverse. You have to stop the pass, so you 592 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: almost dare them to run. Do you agree? I totally agree, 593 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: And it's something I've been talking with, you know, my 594 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: podcast partner Jeff Fidoton about for years. I have felt 595 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: over the last several years, we'll just call it several, 596 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: we'll bucket it in a big term, I felt like 597 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: they have been somebody who hasn't really been committed and 598 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to use that in air quotes right, committed 599 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: to the run game. And I think with Isaiah Pacheco 600 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: now coming on. I think they may have found somebody. 601 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's those terms out there. When he runs, 602 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: he's trying to hurt the ground. You know, he gets 603 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: up and runs faster after the play is over. He's 604 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: just got that level of energy. I think they may 605 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: have found somebody that you can pull back and say, 606 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, could he be the next Priest Holmes Kareem Hunt. 607 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's a big stretch for a rookie. 608 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: But I think that's the piece that this offense has 609 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: been missing. And I feel like whenever the Chiefs have 610 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: committed to the run again, I'm going to overuse this term. 611 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: It allows them to open up the playbook and it 612 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: gives Patrick Moore options more things to do when you've 613 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: got eight guys kind of crowding the box a little bit, 614 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: wondering if they're gonna run, are they going to play action? 615 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: You know, what are they gonna do? And I just 616 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: feel like I'm super excited about what they're doing with 617 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: Isaiah now and I think it's going to help them 618 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: down the stretch. But it's always been I feel the 619 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: Achilles heel of the offense at least Patrick Mahomes's offense, 620 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: maybe not a Trent Green or Alex Smith in the 621 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: past when they've had those kind of big Derrek Henry 622 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: type running backs or a Sequon Barkley somebody like that, 623 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: that's going to get you five and a half yards 624 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: of carry. I feel like it's always been their achilles heel. 625 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: Former Chiefs offensive lineman Joe Valerio is our guest. He 626 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: is the host of the Belief in Chiefs podcast on 627 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: the Belief Podcast Network. In the second half of the 628 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game last year, Joe, the Bengals rushed three 629 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: and covered with eight on about half of Patrick mahomes 630 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: drop back and it worked. Have teams been trying that 631 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: much this year? And if so, is it's still working. 632 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it obviously worked for the Bengals, and I 633 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: think they figured it out right, might as well take 634 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: a shot. If, like you said, you're gonna stop, you're 635 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna stop the pass first. And that's what they did 636 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: in that second half, and I think it was marvelous 637 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: call by the Bengals coaching staff to do that. Um. 638 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: I think with some of the things they have been 639 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: able to do in the run game, while it has 640 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: been limited. It definitely is better than it was last year. 641 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: So I don't see as many teams falling back that many. 642 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: You know, they're generally rushing for you know, you have 643 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: to have a very discipline pass rush against Patrick Mahomes. 644 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: You know, you can't if you give him what I 645 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: call a pocket within the pocket, he's gonna he's gonna 646 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: beat you. Um not with his legs all the time. 647 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: He's not like Josh Allen will what he does run. 648 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't run, but he's gonna find 649 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: that extra second or two to find a receiver who 650 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: you can get into, you know, either in man you know, 651 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: get get away from somebody or sit down in his 652 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: zone and find that open spot. Um So, more teams, 653 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: I think this year because of this better stable of 654 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: running backs i'll call it, and the way they've been performing, 655 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: I think more teams have been bringing you know, seven 656 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: up into the box on first down, and you know, 657 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: and Patrick's been able to make some plays you know, 658 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: on first down with the past when he sees more 659 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: players coming up into that you know, tackle box. So 660 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 1: I think I think this year it's been a learning lesson. 661 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: That game was a learning lesson for Andy Reid and 662 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: Eric the enemy is that you know, we're going to 663 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: have to do something and not just allow you know, 664 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: three guys to rush and eight guys dropped back. I mean, 665 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: that's that was a fantastic formula for the Bengals and 666 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: hats off to them for for thinking of that. Yo, 667 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: if my math is correct, the Chiefs are twenty and 668 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: four in their last twenty four games, and half of 669 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: the four losses where to Cincinnati in a four week 670 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: span last January. What impact do those losses have on 671 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: this week's game? Well, you know, players always have thoughts 672 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: and count they have they have games circled on the 673 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: calendar as much as as much as you know, I 674 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: lived under the Marty Schottenheimer era, right, and you being 675 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: in Ohio obviously have you know probably at least some 676 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: of those memories of those Cleveland Browns Marty teams. And 677 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, Marty was the kind of coach that always 678 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: said the most important game is your next game. And 679 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: I get that, and I totally live by a philosophy 680 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: not just with football, but also you know things in life. 681 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: You know, the next thing you're doing is the most 682 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: important thing. But but the big butt. You know that 683 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: players circle games on their calendars that you can't help it, right, 684 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: just they're just humans and they're thinking about the things 685 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: that are sitting in their crawl or the things that 686 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: stung them. And I know this game has stung a 687 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: lot of Chiefs. And whether the Bengals were coming in 688 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: here on the role that they're coming in on, which 689 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: is very exciting, right, the seven and four role that 690 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: they're on, because I'm not sure early mid season, you know, 691 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: until they had these three three wins in a row, 692 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken right, that maybe people were doubting 693 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: this team a little bit. And I think Joe Burrow 694 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: and the rest of the team are putting that behind 695 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: them a little bit and they're seeing the team that 696 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: they are and that they were and that they can be. 697 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, every team goes through those 698 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 1: rough patches, So this is going to be an amazing 699 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: game for a lot of reasons. I think there's going 700 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: to be a lot of players on the Kansas City 701 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: side that are going to have a little bit of 702 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder about this game, and they 703 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: probably had it circled regardless of whether you know, you 704 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: don't want to look past the Raiders and the Broncos 705 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: in the AFC West. This that game stung a lot 706 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: of a lot of players, a lot of fans. So 707 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: I think, I think the Chiefs are going to pull out, 708 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, all the stops that they can, and I 709 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: think the players are going to be, you know, pretty 710 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: mentally prepared for this game. Valerio played for the Chiefs 711 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties. He as the host of the 712 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: Believe in Chiefs podcast. Let's turn to the Kansas City defense. 713 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: What's the strength, what's the biggest weakness? Well, I couldn't. 714 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't say anything without bringing up Chris Jones, right, 715 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't have a defensive conversation without him. Um. 716 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: I thought at the beginning of this season, and the 717 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: reason why you know they went after karloftas early in 718 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: the first round was the pass rush. You know, what, 719 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: what is Frank Clark going to be able to bring 720 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: to the table in his you know, advanced age. Um, 721 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: you know, are we going to be able to get 722 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: after the quarterback? And you know I would have said 723 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: six weeks ago, eight weeks ago, early on that that 724 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: pass rush was going to be their weak link, and 725 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: it's turning out to be one of their better facets 726 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: of their team. I think a lot of it has 727 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: to do with game planning and positioning that Steve Spagnolan's 728 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: the defense coordinator, is doing. He's taking not a really 729 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: well known group of guys. I mean, you know, George 730 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: Carloftas got his first sack um, you know, full sack 731 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: against the Rams, so he has been a lot of pressures, 732 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: but definitely not getting after the quarterback um. I think 733 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: they were worried about, you know, whether or not, you know, 734 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: obviously we're playing without Frank Clark right now because of 735 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: the of the of the suspension, whether he was going 736 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: to be able to hold up. He came back in 737 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: fantastic shape and has been making an impact. And even 738 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: guys like you know, Mike Dana, Carlos Dunlap there, they're 739 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: they're Steve spagnol is finding a way to make make 740 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 1: it work for them. And that's what this defensive staff 741 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: always does, and an offense they do it. I think 742 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: even more. Steve Spagnola never takes a square peg and 743 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: tries to jam it into a round hole. He doesn't 744 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: say this is my defensive philosophy, you're going to fit. 745 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: It's my way or the highway. He constantly is evolving 746 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: the player's skills and their attributes to meet the needs 747 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: of the defense. I really respect that about him. I 748 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: love that about coaches. His playbook is very let's call 749 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: it flexible, variable and one that is in you know, 750 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: there's lots of iterations of it. So that would have 751 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: been the weak link. I think right now, you know 752 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: Nick Bolton's playing well, I would have said it was 753 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: the linebacking corp. But with Willie gayback and Nick Bolton's 754 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: having a Pro Bowl type season, Leo Channel as a 755 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: rookie came on. I mean I would have said that 756 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: maybe the whole defense was a week you know, six 757 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: months ago as we were heading into the off season. 758 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: But the drafting of Trent McDuffie, Justin Reid, Legarius Snead 759 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: coming into their own, I have to say I can't 760 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 1: really find as strong of a week link on defense 761 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: as I do on the Chiefs offense, which I think 762 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: is still the running game, the overall running game. On defense, 763 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: I think they've shored up all those things where they 764 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: might not be a plus in any one of those 765 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: attributes D backs, middle of the field, linebacking and then 766 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: up front on the D line. But you know, they're 767 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: solid B B plus across the board, and I think 768 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: it's it's giving them some success right now, Joe, you 769 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: mentioned the name Carlos Dunlap. I'm guessing there are Bengals 770 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: fans listening to this that didn't even realize he's wound 771 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: up with the Kansas City Chiefs this year and is 772 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: wearing the number eight. He had some great years in 773 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: Cincinnati before an ugly exit. What's his role with the 774 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: Chiefs right now? And how is he doing? I mean, 775 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: he's got he's got four sacks, so he's he's making 776 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: an impact. He's, you know, definitely a great rotation player 777 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: who gets you know, he gets a lot of starts 778 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: um uh and and and he's you know, he's really 779 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: jumped in there. And it's very uh, it's very easy 780 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: to find him on the field because you see a 781 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: number eight lining up at defensive end and you're like, 782 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: wait a minute, that that a wide receiver, but fall 783 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: out onto the defense. But he's very very recognizable out there, 784 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: and you know he's been he's been they've been rotating 785 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: him in when he you know, when he starts. But 786 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: that's what this defense has been doing. They've been trying 787 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: to build depth where where they can get, you know, 788 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: folks to rotate through. So they're not playing you know, 789 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: sixty seventy plays on defense. Maybe they're playing you know, 790 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: the starters are playing the forty five or fifty critical 791 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: defensive plays because defense is a rotation position, and that's 792 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: what he's been doing. And he's you know, he's made 793 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 1: a really nice role play impact, especially with Frank clark 794 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: suspension and uh, you know, with bringing helping to bring 795 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: guys like George Carl Aftis, you know, an untested rookie along. 796 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: So I think he's been been a great addition. He 797 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: seems to have found his niche with the Chiefs and 798 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: he's found his role. So I think the fans are 799 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 1: really happy to have him. Are there any injury questions 800 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: that we should be keeping our eye on this week 801 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: from Cincinnati? They have to keep an eye on whether, 802 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, what Andy's gonna do besides just the injuries, 803 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, what are they gonna do? Uh, you know 804 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: with Clyde Edwards, Hilaire right, is he going to play 805 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: again and is Isaiah Pacheco and Ronald Jones going to 806 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: be Are they going to be the guys rotating in 807 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: with Jack McKinnon. The other one is Joe Tuoney. Joe 808 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: has been banged up a lot, you know. Nick Alagretti 809 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: is the he's my number, sake, number seventy three. Plus 810 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: he got a lot of vows in his name, so 811 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: you know, we kind of any caught a touchdown last year, 812 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: so he's a tackle eligible too. Like we've we've we've 813 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: bonded uh dramatically. Um. But yeah, they'll have to keep 814 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: keep an eye on the line and to see, uh, 815 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, if they can try to puncture that weakness 816 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: of of you know, if Joe Thuney's not going to 817 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: be able to go and Nick Alagretti steps and he's 818 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: done an admirable job filling in. Um. You know, he's 819 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: not the type of backup that's you know, you're going 820 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: to miss a beat when he gets in there. So 821 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: they've done a really good job inside of of of 822 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, managing depth. I'm a little I get a 823 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: little concerned on the outside. We've got some untested tackles 824 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: backing up Orlando Brown and Andrew Wiley in, Darien Kinnard 825 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: and Jared Christian. They haven't really played a whole lot 826 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: this season, and uh, you know they're they're kind of 827 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 1: you know, as the season goes on and you haven't 828 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: been playing, it can get at it gets a little 829 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: worse each day. So you know, just got to make 830 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: sure that old line stays healthy because that was you know, 831 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 1: that was their downfall several years ago. In the Super Bowl. 832 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: You had a big man touchdown back in the day. Yeah, 833 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 1: I had four actually, so well, well, I just you know, listen, 834 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: here's one of my greatest uh you know, uh, the 835 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 1: greatest honors is that I share that record with Anthony 836 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: Munio's who also had four tackle eligible touchdowns. So we 837 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: share the record along with another player. There's four four 838 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: offensive linemen who have scored four touchdowns, so you know, 839 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: I will always of course, of course, Anthony Munos was 840 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 1: one of my idols growing up. I loved watching him play. 841 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: My college strength coach was very good friends with the 842 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: Bengal strength coach back then, who you know, used to 843 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: train guys like Anthony and Tim crumb Ry and so 844 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: I got to know Reggie Williams and so I knew 845 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: a lot about the Bengals even though I was a 846 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: Philly NFC kid growing up in Philadelphia with my Eagles. 847 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: I knew a lot about the Bengals through my college 848 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: strength coach who was friendly with the Bengal strength coach, 849 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: so we used to follow their seam strength regimen. So 850 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: really cool connection there with Anthony Joe Valerio, host of 851 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: the Believe in Chiefs podcast, and a guy that chairs 852 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: an NFL record with Anthony Munios. So I doesn't get 853 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: any better than I Just wish I could have played 854 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: as long as he did or had as many Pro Bowls. 855 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: I just you don't have any fingers that face sideways 856 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: like Anthony does. Just one, Joe, this has been terrific. 857 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Awesome Dan, 858 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: glad to join you. Good luck this week. 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