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Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Louke Penrose.

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Speaker 3: If John coblt on the John Coblt Show, I'll be

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Speaker 3: in all week. So Lyle Menendez met the same fate

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Speaker 3: Friday night as his brother Eric Menendez brothers today remain

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Speaker 3: at prison. Late Friday night, the Parole Board, after a

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Speaker 3: lengthy delay, issued the ruling that Lyle, like his brother Eric,

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Speaker 3: will not get parole. They can try again in three years.

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Speaker 3: ABC News analyst Alex Stone joins us, was it oversold

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Speaker 3: as a possibility?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that they thought there was a chance.

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Speaker 1: Did you think there was a chance. It seemed like

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Speaker 1: there was some.

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Speaker 3: Drama, but the decision was pretty flat and absolute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey lo, So yeah, you remember Mark Garrigos, the

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Speaker 2: attorney for the Menendez brothers and so many others, that

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Speaker 2: he had said last year they're gonna be out by

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and then said, well now they'll be out by

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Speaker 2: Christmas and the New Year's and last week he was

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Speaker 2: saying this Thanksgiving, of course he's going to be more optimistic,

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Speaker 2: and that he is pushing and trying to swing it

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Speaker 2: his way and what he's putting out there publicly and

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Speaker 2: to the media. But it's uncommon for people, especially in

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Speaker 2: murder cases, the first go around to get parole.

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Speaker 1: But this had been.

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Speaker 2: Such a ground swell of people after Netflix and on

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Speaker 2: for this. It seemed like that there was kind of this, well,

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Speaker 2: it's just automatically going to happen, but the parole commissioners

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Speaker 2: don't work that way, and they looked at it like

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Speaker 2: you would any inmate who was up for parole on

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Speaker 2: who's in prison for murder and up for parole, and

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Speaker 2: that they had a lot of issues with what went on. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was late Friday night that that Lyle got his ruling,

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Speaker 2: late in terms of what we were expecting. It was

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Speaker 2: was a big delay there because we got audio during

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Speaker 2: the hearing of Eric Menendez's hearing and we aired it

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Speaker 2: and it was legally obtained. It was given to us

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Speaker 2: in a public records request and the prison system accidentally

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Speaker 2: and that made the Menendez brothers attorneys quite angry, saying

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Speaker 2: that that was going to manipulate the ruling. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how I was going to manipulate the ruling, being

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Speaker 2: the commissioners weren't paying attention to TBC News. They shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have been at least, and they should have been paying

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Speaker 2: attention to what they were doing. And it was audio

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Speaker 2: from Eric's hearing that had already been ruled upon the

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Speaker 2: day before, and not Lyles. But nonetheless, there was this

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Speaker 2: up going forward and then after a lengthy delay, decided

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Speaker 2: Eric Menendez's hearing, and let me just play for you.

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Speaker 2: Because we didn't think we're going to get audio. We

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Speaker 4: I would have to say, looking at your record, that

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Speaker 4: it is not only replete with violations, but they're very

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Speaker 4: diverse in nature. In other words, you have violence, you

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Speaker 4: you have substance abuse. I mean, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: And a lot of this came down to illegal cell

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Speaker 4: I really became addicted to this, to the phones, and said,

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Speaker 2: was not self defense. You remember, over and over again,

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Speaker 2: The current DA has said this was not self defense,

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Speaker 4: Was there any part of this that you believe was

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Speaker 2: And Eric also said there was no justification for the murders.

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Speaker 2: saying this was an unjust parole hearing and he wants

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Speaker 2: it overturned and he's going to appeel it. Number of

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Speaker 2: other routes they want the governor to give them clemency.

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Speaker 2: Nothing indicating Newsom is going to do that, being that

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Speaker 2: if he runs for president, even though he says he's

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Speaker 1: That overruled the parole board.

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Speaker 2: That found them to be a threat to society and

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Speaker 2: very angry about this whole thing and that it was unjust.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, based on the audio getting out that we aired,

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Speaker 3: As people hear about the story for the first time

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Speaker 3: It is such an la fascinating story. But what strikes

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Speaker 1: Everybody have a cell phone?

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Speaker 3: And then how is Eric in trouble for having a

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Speaker 3: it's almost like a Netflix prison series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: Going back to kind of what was out there about

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Speaker 2: there that yeah, the Menendez brothers have done a lot

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Speaker 2: great men, and the Parole Board was able to bring

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Speaker 2: it back to no, Look, they've done tax fraud in prison,

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Speaker 2: and they've had cell phones, and there's been violence in

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Speaker 2: look how brutal this was. And then Lyle went back

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Speaker 2: So they brought all of that up in this. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the prison system in California is so big, there are

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Speaker 2: a number of ways cell phones and other things can

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Speaker 3: It looks like we'll be revisiting maybe in eighteen months,

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Speaker 3: So it's picking up some momentum. You have to get

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Speaker 3: All right, so people are out of the way and

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Speaker 3: But as a small government guy, I think we have

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Speaker 3: If it is so that most of the calories that

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Speaker 3: And his thing was, there's absolutely no reason to serve

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to see the assembly member take aim at

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Speaker 3: this and we'll continue to follow it. Lou Penrose on

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Speaker 3: There is an effort to phase out ultraprocessed food from

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Speaker 1: It's a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: So this is assembly Member Jesse Gabriel's legislation and I

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Speaker 3: The schools aren't going away, the children aren't going away.

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Speaker 3: We need to do a better job of a lot

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Speaker 1: So it should be healthy. There's no excuse for it

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Speaker 1: not to be.

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Speaker 3: Ultra process food to children all day, five days a week.

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Speaker 3: Terrible idea, and we don't have to be that society.

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Speaker 3: We need to do a lot with respect to the

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Speaker 3: So I've hear I've heard these arguments for years about

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Speaker 1: Oh, come on, summer break, everybody, What are you gonna

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Speaker 3: How can you get rid of summer break? Lou wants

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Speaker 3: to get rid of summer recess. No, but we study

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Speaker 1: Are a long time ago. We don't have to still

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Speaker 3: They can still be a break, but it doesn't have

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Speaker 3: I mean, we can modernize the way we run school.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's time we do away with

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Speaker 1: It absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: So we need to modernize that.

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Speaker 1: And I'll give you another one.

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Speaker 3: This has always amazed me, and this like people that

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Speaker 1: Agree in this. We don't need twelfth grade.

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Speaker 3: What we need is kindergarten that starts at age four,

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Speaker 1: We should shift the whole thing down.

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Speaker 3: In helping young humans start grasping concepts, the success you

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Speaker 3: And I've conducted this experiment when I've gone out to

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Speaker 3: More problems come from twelfth grade, then learning takes place.

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Speaker 3: So I said, if you could complete the minimum requirements

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Speaker 3: And in exchange, I give you in cash what the

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Speaker 1: Show a hands. How many would be interested in taking

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Speaker 1: that program? About half the kids say, I'll get it

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Speaker 1: a shot. That's the way we have to start thinking

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 3: Teachers and teachers' unions will go nuts at that because

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Speaker 3: it'll eliminate tens of thousands of jobs.

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Speaker 1: But we need to start modernizing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this effort to get the junk out of

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Speaker 3: the school lunch program is going to create a bunch

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Speaker 3: of vendors who are to be unhappy that sell a

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Speaker 3: bunch of cookies and terrible pizza. But we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to start phasing it out, and that's what it's gonna require.

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Speaker 3: So twenty twenty eight is coming, twenty thirty two is coming.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have the schools that reflect the modern ideas and.

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Speaker 3: The tested best practices ready for them by then it

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Speaker 3: remains up to us.

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Speaker 1: But that's a direction I think we should be looking

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Speaker 1: at going.

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Speaker 3: Louke Penrose info John coblt on The John Cobalt Show

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Speaker 3: on kf I Am six forty. Louke Penrose info John

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Speaker 3: coblt on The John coblt Show.

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Speaker 1: This week, Everybody's on vacation.

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Speaker 3: Chris Merrill in from O'Kelly coblt all out all this week?

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Speaker 1: My goodness, who's in charge of that scheduling? But school

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Speaker 1: is now back for pretty much everybody in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any school district that waits for

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Speaker 3: Labor Day any longer it was explained to me this way.

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Speaker 3: Then this seems particularly that there is something that goes on,

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Speaker 3: some testing that goes on that's nationwide in late September,

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Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, California doesn't have enough influence over

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Speaker 3: moving that test date later in the year, and the

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Speaker 3: learning loss that takes place over the summer is so

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Speaker 3: significant that they.

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Speaker 1: Score poorly.

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Speaker 3: The children score poorly when they take that test in

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Speaker 3: late September, which is some kind of national grading, and

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Speaker 3: so they wanted to start the school year earlier so

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Speaker 3: that that learning loss is caught up by the time

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Speaker 3: for that late September date.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not. That might

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Speaker 1: just be an old wives tale or some kind of

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Speaker 1: urban legend.

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Speaker 3: All I know is that everybody's going back to school

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Speaker 3: earlier and earlier, and it doesn't jive for all the grades,

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Speaker 3: which proves my point that those that are in charge

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Speaker 3: of scheduling school for middle school, elementary school, kindergarten TK

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Speaker 3: in high school, those schedules are designed by people without jobs.

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Speaker 1: It has to be some range rover Mom and yoga

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Speaker 1: pants is in charge of all this.

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Speaker 3: But nevertheless, the schools are on now all back, so

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Speaker 3: traffic patterns are beginning to change. I think I think

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Speaker 3: it's great to have order again. It's been an interesting

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Speaker 3: experience this summer having a person that drives, first time

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Speaker 3: we had summer, and a driving child that will change

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Speaker 3: everything in your house. And now that the two brothers

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Speaker 3: are both going to the same school, he drives his

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Speaker 3: younger brother who is now a freshman, so it changes

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Speaker 3: the entire perspective.

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Speaker 1: And my wife and I at this point are just

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Speaker 1: hanging on.

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Speaker 3: But the schools are so antiquated in the way they

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Speaker 3: are set up, and we still have these long summer breaks,

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Speaker 3: and I'm a huge fan of not just modernizing the

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Speaker 3: way the foods are distributed to them. You know what's

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Speaker 3: amazing is we still serve junk in the school lunch program.

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Speaker 1: But the school lunch program takes Apple pay.

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Speaker 3: Like they were able to figure out how to charge

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Speaker 3: my card, but they can't figure out how to get healthy,

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Speaker 3: nutritious options on the menu. And I mentioned earlier there

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Speaker 3: was this effort in Washington, DC for a short period

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Speaker 3: of time. I knew it wasn't going to get anywhere,

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Speaker 3: and frankly, the people that were behind it knew it

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Speaker 3: was uphill to try and get cow's milk off the

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Speaker 3: menu because this doctor really believed that while a small

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Speaker 3: amount of cow's milk, just like a small amount of

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Speaker 3: goat's milk, is not going to hurt anybody, having cow's

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Speaker 3: milk every day, five days a week from kindergarten to

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Speaker 3: twelfth grade, and that's what it served, right, is really

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Speaker 3: really bad. And I remember him making the case that

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Speaker 3: you have to understand the people that are involved in

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Speaker 3: these kinds of contracts, and dairy Association pretty big as

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Speaker 3: a lobbying strength on Capitol Hill, and so they're not

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Speaker 3: going to let you make the case that maybe water

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Speaker 3: would be a better thing to serve.

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Speaker 1: So that's where we are.

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Speaker 3: We're now trying to modernize and as I mentioned, this

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Speaker 3: legislation out of the San Fernando Valley Assemblement Jesse Gabriel

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Speaker 3: wants to end the ultra process foods. I think it's

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Speaker 3: a good thing. I think it'll move forward. I think

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Speaker 3: it'll get some support. This is California, after all, we're

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Speaker 3: supposed to be the healthy people. Why are we serving

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Speaker 3: our kids all this junk in the public school systems.

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Speaker 3: The other thing I think has not worked for us

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Speaker 3: is this idea that everybody gets lunch like it used

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Speaker 3: to be that if you qualified for a reduced cost

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Speaker 3: lunch and you had to qualify for it, then you

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Speaker 3: would get it.

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Speaker 1: I understand there's no reason to embarrass anybody.

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Speaker 3: But after COVID, everybody gets lunch now, and I don't

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Speaker 3: know who's paying for that, Like that can't be cheap.

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Speaker 3: Not most people didn't qualify for reduced or no cost lunch.

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Speaker 1: Most people, at least until my oldest was in.

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Speaker 3: Fifth grade, I had of papers lunch or make them lunch,

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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, it just all became free.

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Speaker 1: But the quality of the lunch went down.

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Speaker 3: The tubes I used to pick them up after school,

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Speaker 3: and there was like this bin where if you didn't

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Speaker 3: want something, you put it in the bin. They tried

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Speaker 3: to prevent you from wasting the food. And that's nice, right,

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Speaker 3: very egalitarianism. You're hungry, don't have any money, go over

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Speaker 3: to that bin and see who didn't want something, and

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Speaker 3: inevitably it would be the same stuff.

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Speaker 1: The apple.

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Speaker 3: Nobody ever wants the apple, Nobody ever wants the banana.

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Speaker 3: So if you're lucky, somebody would have like some crunchies

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Speaker 3: in there, or some oriole cookies, but that would go fast,

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Speaker 3: and what was left was the only healthy thing that

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Speaker 3: is served was the things that nobody.

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Speaker 1: Wanted, and those extras of every single day. So we'll

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Speaker 1: continue to see where this goes.

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Speaker 3: I know that the Secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, is

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Speaker 3: pushing this in the schools. He's pushing it, in fact, in.

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Speaker 1: The grocery stores. So there's real efforts here.

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Speaker 3: But I can tell you, as somebody that has struggled

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Speaker 3: with health my whole life, when I made the decision,

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Speaker 3: and it sounds pretty radical, but when I made the

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Speaker 3: decision to at least give it a shot and get

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Speaker 3: all refined white flour out of my diet. And you

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Speaker 3: have to do it completely, like not even a saltine cracker,

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Speaker 3: not even you know, oh, you know his hot dogs

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Speaker 3: today at works, So like even that hot dog butt, like,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: Unless you completely eliminate it.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to eliminate it for the rest of

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Speaker 3: your life, but if you want to test and see

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Speaker 3: if that is part of your problem, you eliminate it

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Speaker 3: for like a week or ten days, and then you

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Speaker 3: really start to see some changes going on in every aspect.

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Speaker 3: And I'm a grown ass man, so if I can

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Speaker 3: feel changes in my skin and the way I feel

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Speaker 3: and the brain fog, imagine the impact it would have

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Speaker 3: to young people eight, nine, ten years old trying to

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Speaker 3: concentrate in the classroom and the opposite.

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Speaker 1: Imagine the impact having a lunch that is just.

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Speaker 3: Filled with the ultra processed foods, and then sixth period

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Speaker 3: just becomes a complete fog.

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Speaker 1: And you talk to any.

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Speaker 3: Teacher that has class, especially if it's a math class

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Speaker 3: or some class that requires deep concentration, and you ask

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Speaker 3: them what the differences between your classes before lunch and

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Speaker 3: the classes after lunch. They'll be the first to tell

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Speaker 3: you that those are the hardest classes to teach, the

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Speaker 3: ones after lunch, because the kids are just numbed.

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Speaker 1: And tired from their lunch.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's a good place to start, and

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Speaker 3: I look forward to talking with the Assembly member and

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Speaker 3: seeing how the legislation is going forward.

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Speaker 1: Again, it would require all.

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Speaker 3: The ultra processed foods to be phased out of California

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Speaker 3: public schools by twenty twenty eight eight, and then all

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Speaker 3: vendors will be prohibited from selling them at all by

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Speaker 3: twenty thirty two. So it's a process, but we have

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Speaker 3: to start somewhere, and I think it's a good place

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Speaker 3: to look to see where to go. Hey, it's been

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Speaker 3: great to be with you. I'll be here all week

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Speaker 3: in for John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty live

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Speaker 3: Coblt on KFI AM six forty.

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