WEBVTT - Miss Chef Anne Burrell 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.959 Misspelling with tory spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.600 Hi Love. Oh my gosh, this is so exciting and 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.000 I'm so hi. I'm such a big fan, so nice 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:23.439 to meet you. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.080 Oh my gosh, you have no idea. I'm sorry, I'm 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.520 getting excited. My voice is going up. I'm such a 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.080 big fan, and. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.400 I don't know. I never thought you would do my 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.279 podcast like and here we are. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.440 It never occurred to me that you would even ask me, 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:39.559 so look, here we are. 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:43.720 I don't even know where to start with you, Chef 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.640 Anne Burrell. Do I have to call you chef? 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:46.480 No? 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.120 I know I wasn't going to anyway. I'm not kidding, 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:51.319 but I do love saying your whole name. I love 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:52.160 your name, Anne Burrell. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.040 I just do so funny. 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.840 Yeah, people like you know, there's people in your life 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.760 that it's always their first and last name, And I'm 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.760 like one of those people. It's never it's just Amberrell. 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.840 It's always like that, or it's chef Anne or Amberrell. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.160 I don't know. I guess An's just not enough of 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:10.480 a name. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.160 Just call you ab sure. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.600 Yes, I have a very good friend that calls me 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:17.000 a b all. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.160 Really, Oh my gosh, I don't even know where to 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.080 start with you. I have so much to talk to 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.119 you about. Oh my gosh, Oh can I start with this? 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.560 Guess what I'm making? Amberrel aka b. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:30.880 What are you making? 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.520 Well, it's not enough that I have five kids, I'm 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.760 a single mom and working full time. I decided to 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.280 I'm gonna say it wrong. I made from scratch a pottafoe. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.240 Oh what am I saying it wrong? 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:49.520 I don't want fo oh like a like a a 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.880 braze sort of boiled beef, like kind of a Jewish girl. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.200 So yeah, a French brisket. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.840 Yes, yes, yeah, delicious. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.840 So I was telling all my kids I was making 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:01.880 this and they then my little one thought I was 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:02.520 making faux. 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.600 He got really excited. He loves foe. Yeah. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.160 So I was like, yeah, it's just another day. So 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.360 you know, I drop off pickups and all this crap, 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.440 and I was like, let me make that. I like 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.520 to really challenge myself, so I was like, let me 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:20.079 make this, and six hours later I got some tender 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:20.800 fucking beef. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:21.320 Right. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.320 But once you get everything in the pot, it's kind 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.160 of a pain to get started. But once you get 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.880 everything in there, it's like set it and forget it. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.240 And your house smells so good, doesn't it. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.440 The house smells so good? 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.120 Right, people walk in and they're like, I'm hungry. 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.520 Except I blew it. I threw my bone marrows in 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.120 too soon. I was supposed to save them for like 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.200 the last thirty minutes because oh my gosh, and I didn't. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.200 So they all like fell off into it. So we 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.080 couldn't like take out the bone marrow and like spread 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:49.600 it on toast and like do all that, which is 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.320 one of my favorite things, a little sea salt. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.160 Sorry, oh don't you love that? And it's like such 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.160 a weird thing where you're like, I'm scraping. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:00.160 Out the middle of these bones and it's all fat 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:01.760 mayonn Does it taste good? 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:07.080 I could live on bone marrow? I okay, So this 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:13.400 I was saying. I love food so much that I 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.760 feel like my tummy is my g spot. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:20.680 Say the way to your heart is through your tummy, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:21.840 so or the way to. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.760 You know, a man's heart is through a stomach. It's 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.160 not that's a lie. I don't know where that came from. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:30.679 It's not enough to just feed. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.720 Them, no, oh my gosh, hilarious. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.880 So I've been doing this podcast for a year now, 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:40.840 uh huh. And I love I love humans, and I 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.320 love talking to people. I love telling my stories and 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.560 I just kind of love putting it all out there. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.800 I learned from a young age kind of being on 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.040 nine O two and OO in the nineties and so 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.520 many preconceived notions about who I probably was. And back 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.320 then it was so different, like you never got to 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.000 really interact with actors, and so we were all groomed 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.200 and what to say on press shows. So it's like 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.320 no one got to know my personellity. And I would 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.360 always say, like, people don't. 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:07.839 Know who I am. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.080 They think I'm, you know, this Hollywood rich girl, and 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.640 like I'm probably a bitch, and if they knew me, they. 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.200 Would really like me. And now I get to show people. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.919 Mark was so nice. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.200 I mean, when Donna Martin lost her virginity, it was 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.480 like every the whole world stopped. I feel like I 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.640 was a total fan. I loved nine O two one out. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.760 Oh my god, I think I was. I was out 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:39.680 of college by then and living with a couple of girlfriends, 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.560 and we it was like we would all make sure 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.479 we were home on the night nine O two. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.599 I know we would all watch it. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.479 Oh my gosh, what did you eat while you watched it? 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.800 I'm sure it always goes back to food with me. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.320 I'm so sorry. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:05:01.360 This was also before before I had decided that cooking 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.360 was going to be my career, and I was still 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:10.560 like I was probably like twenty two three, about in 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.159 there and still like, you know, just on the verge 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:15.839 of becoming like a real person. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.480 So I would sort of cook. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.719 But it was like, you know, three girls living in 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.400 the house, and actually one of them was this was 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.800 kind of funny. And this I think also kind of 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:31.240 helped make me understand that there is a real connection 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:37.919 in life between eating and happiness. Because my roommate was 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:42.400 anarexic and she would eat like the weirdest things. She 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.920 would eat like dried rice, And the reason we would 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.680 know that she was doing it is because, like you'd 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.520 walk in the kitchen, they'll be all this, like why 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.280 is this rice all over the floor? 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:57.320 And she red things. So she would take a chopstick 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.920 and stick it into a bottle of ketchup or like 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:04.400 barbecue sauce or like red jelly, and like just eat 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.560 it off the chopstick, like lick it off the chopstick 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:08.680 and she would do it like. 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:14.320 So on the side was like, ambion, I'm much more creative. Wait, okay, 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:14.880 I'm sorry. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:16.800 I mean like and I'm like. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.800 Wow, really, And she would eat like she would buy 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.159 like bags of like frozen vegetables like peas and carrots 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.120 and you know, and she would just eat them frozen like, 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:31.400 and I was like, all right, I mean, you're depriving 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.599 yourself from anything to eat in the first place, and 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.560 what you already eat is like raw frozen, uncooked or 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.120 just licking ketchup off a chopstick. 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:41.640 It was so bizarre to me. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.880 And so I would cook for myself because it was 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.520 at a time when I was like, you know, times 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.320 were very lean back then, and so I would make 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.839 I would cook for myself for like a few days 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.880 and like take my lunch to work with me and stuff, 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.599 and she would like eat the stuff that I would make, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.280 and I'm like, what the heck is here? 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.520 I know, did you have to label your food? 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.240 I mean, it never occurred to me to really do it. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.200 And then I you know, and then like I remember 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:15.480 one Saturday, I was like, oh, I am feeling very adventurous. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.600 I'm going to make bread and I'm gonna I baked 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.680 bread so I like needed it and rolled it and 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.760 made this beautiful love of bread and I think it 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:29.440 made two loaves and she like one of them. She 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.640 just ate the top off all of it, and I 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:35.080 was like, what are you doing? So needless to say, 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.960 I did not stay in that house that long. 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:42.960 Wow, my gosh. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.720 But it really made me understand, like I was like 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:51.240 the connection between happiness and life and eating like food 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.160 brings people joy. And so I say, as a chef, 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.680 I'm a professional pleasure provider. And my Mom's like, do 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.520 you have to say it like that? And I'm like, yeah, 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:00.160 I sure. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.360 You because a professional pleasure provider makes me sound like 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:03.840 a hooker. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:06.720 I know that's what I like about it. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.360 I know that's why I say it. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.720 Yeah, I'm a big fan of green. You love green, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:12.080 don't you? 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.800 I love green. Look at my kitchen is all green. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.480 Oh oh, I know. I've been doing a deep stalk 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:19.320 on you and Burrell. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.200 So it's the color of So along with nine O two, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.680 one of the other show I loved so much was 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:32.000 Friends and so look I have like the Friends cookie 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:33.680 jar thing and. 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.479 Do I love details? 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.360 Like we can't right here, and for people listening, we 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.880 get to see each other and you can only hear us. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:44.400 But I want to like zoom in. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.840 So I mean, I love to have all my stuff 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.920 on display. It's like it's also easy for me to reach. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:57.160 But I don't know, I feel like having stuff around 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:01.120 and chow keys and you know, just I feel like 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:02.640 it's the history of my life. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.440 It's called hoarding, Amberrell, and I have that problem too, 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.880 but I can phrase it nicely like you, and then 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.960 people would give me cut me a break. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:16.079 I don't know, I just like to have stuff, It's true, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.560 I'm a hall of doctor, yes I am. And like 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.800 I collect things that mean stuff to me or you know, 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:28.680 and I like also antique things, so I have like yeah, right, 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.319 I feel like it's sort of a sense of history. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.679 I love to have, like it's I sort of consider 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.520 it like the tools of the. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:40.480 Of my craft, you know. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.880 So I have like antique silverware and things that you 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.719 know that's like my everyday silverware. Just things with a 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.160 little history and things with a little bit of meaning. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.320 I am a believer of you know, a lot of 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.280 people if they're like no, I have something antique or 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.679 something really nice, and they're like, well, we can't use 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.840 it only for special occasions. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:00.920 Right, And I'm just like, now. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.640 My house never gets used. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.480 Use it and love it. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.760 And sure there are a few things that I have 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.240 that you know are like, oh, special occasion stuff up. 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.000 For the most part, I'm like, use it, love it, 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:14.360 try not to break it. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.719 If you do, oh, well then that means I get 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:17.760 to get something else. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.520 I have five kids, so a lot of stuff gets broken. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:27.199 But you've been married three years now, three and a half. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:28.680 This October will be four. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.880 Oh my god, that's so cute. You still count halves? 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:33.520 I know. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:35.319 Still. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.800 I mean, this is my first marriage. I waited for 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.600 Prince Charming. He was a little late, but he finally 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:47.760 got here. It's also I myself was just not ready, 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.120 you know. I like, I was really focused on my career. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.840 I was focused. I'd like moved to New York City 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.400 when I was twenty eight, and I was. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.280 Like, oh, I finally made it. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.080 I wanted to moved to New York since I was 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.480 like ten, and my parents were like, as wild as 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.000 you are, you're not going to New York for college. 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.760 And I was like, okay, so I went to college 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.640 in Buffalo, where I really learned how to drink and party, 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:16.559 and then culinary school, and then Italy for a year, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.920 and then New York. And I'm like, I was like, 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.280 I just remember when I moved to New York. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:23.320 The day I got here. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:27.520 I was like, yes, and it was just so thrilling 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.679 and exciting. And I still find New York like that. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.640 I have a little bit of a fear of New York. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.080 Really, it's fun, I think, cause I grew up in 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.079 La and I don't know I So here's the thing 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.120 I've I only went there to do like press, so 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.000 I never really got to experience it. It was like 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:45.640 I was there for work and then it was in 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.000 and out. And then one time though, I went and 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:53.439 filmed a movie and I was there for like six 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.400 weeks and I really got to enjoy it. And that's 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.360 when I was like, Okay, I'm not scared, like I 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.440 fit in now, like I can do my own thing. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.720 But I feel like I'm very nice and when I'm like, 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.280 I'm the type of person when I'm walking, if someone's walking, 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.199 I move out of their way because people and at 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.200 New York you can't do that. Like people, they'll just like, 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.520 if you don't move like they they'll run you over. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.680 It's fast paced, correct. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:24.280 Yes, yes, And what I love about New York is. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.640 That I just we ruin our friendship. We were like 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.559 doing so well, we were going to be besties, and. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.680 Then I piped in and East Coast. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:36.160 Okay, no, But I feel like New York is what 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.880 you make it. You know, anything you want to find 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:41.200 in New York you can. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:46.440 You can find your people anywhere, and you can expose 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:51.199 yourself as much or as little as you want. And 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.480 and also what I love about New York is is 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:59.080 walking and so you're out amongst people, but you're still, 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.679 you know, sort of alone. It's not like you know, 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.960 That's that's the thing about La. I mean, I love 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.960 to visit La. I love to visit La, but I'm 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.920 a New York girl. And I remember being in La 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:14.800 for like, I don't know, a couple of weeks for 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:16.960 work or something. And I got back to New York 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.680 and I was riding my bike in the West Village, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.520 like by my apartment, and a cab blew through a 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.000 stop sign and I turned around, I'm like, what the hell, 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.840 and the guy stops the cab and he was an 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:30.240 old man. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.360 He's like, where's your helmet? And I was like, oh, yeah, home. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:39.200 I love New York. You know. It's just like people 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.360 just have a little pressure valve. They say what they 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.600 think and they move on, you know, And it's like 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.520 people watching one of my favorite pastimes. I just love 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:47.960 to visit. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.360 And the shopping is so good, the antique shopping so good, 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:56.120 clothing wise, vintage clothing, and the food is so good. 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.920 Except are you a sushi fan? 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.320 I'm ish, not ish, you know, every once in a while, 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.079 but I'm not like I'm like, oh, let's go out 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:08.080 for sushi kind of girl. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.839 No, I'm not really okay, So, oh my gosh, I 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.679 have so much to say to you. Sorry. Sorry, I'm 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:13.600 a bit like a squirrel. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.400 I'm like, go in many different directions wherever my brain 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.600 takes me in the moment. But so if I were 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.680 because I'm single now again after being with my husband 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.600 for twenty years, there weren't dating apps back then, So 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:31.240 if I were to join a dating app, I feel 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.760 like the mandatory thing would be. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:36.080 Do you eat sushi? 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:36.800 Like? 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:39.720 And meat eaters? 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.760 Yeah, I'm a meat girl, so I would have to 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.240 have a man that likes sushi and meat. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.520 That's all. That's all I want in life, A good 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:48.880 sense of humor, smart, that's it. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.960 I think you can find body you know, she and 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.480 meat eaters. You know. So are you going to go 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:56.440 on dating apps? 0:14:57.920 --> 0:14:59.520 Did you meet Stewart on dating app? 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:00.360 I did? 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:05.720 I met him on bumble And I have to say, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:11.080 you know, I enjoyed the whole sort of dating app thing. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:16.080 I went into it knowing what I wanted my endgame 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:21.040 to be. I think I was like forty eight seven, no, 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.280 forty six or seven when I started. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.600 And I would do it for a while. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.480 I would talk to people, you know, flirt a little bit, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.920 and I would I met up with a couple of people. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.680 I talked to far more people than I actually ever 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.400 met up with. And I would do it for a while, 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:45.560 and then if I was like, you know, I'm not 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.880 having fun with this right now, so I would take 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.960 a break and then I would go back and start 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.920 sort of over. It does take effort, and you can't 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.920 go into it with the idea like is. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.360 This the guy you know? Is this the Prince Charming? 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:01.680 You know? 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.840 You have to go into it with just an attitude 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.760 of all right, this is an investment in my time. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.680 It's an investment in me and have fun and not 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:12.120 put so much press on it. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.960 So what do you think took you so long to 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:19.640 go on to a dating app? Not so long? But 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.920 you know what I mean, right, I don't know. 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.040 I was really like, I mean, I was living my 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:25.720 best life. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.880 I was like living the rock star chef life, and 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.680 you know, I was working a lot and I had 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.720 a great social life. And but I just started to 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.400 feel like, all right, you're getting a little old to 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:44.120 be keep on doing this, like what are we doing? 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.840 Where are we going in life? And from when I 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.320 was a kid, I don't know why, but I always 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.760 was like, I am not getting married until I feel 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:58.240 like I'm have something in life to share, like until 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:03.640 spot like I have accomplished stuff, and I don't you know, 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.720 like kids were never on my radar really. 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:09.800 And I love. 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.960 Being an aunt, like I have nieces and nephews. I 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.240 Stuart has a son, so now I'm a stepmom. So 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:20.080 I'm like, that is the perfect amount of parenting for me. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.520 How old is his son? Your son? 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.760 His son is twenty twenty. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.720 My kids don't know who I am. They don't you know. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.439 They just want to know what time dinner's ready, like 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:31.960 they or can you drive me here? 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:32.720 They don't care. 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.000 And I try to engage with them, like, oh, you know, 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.680 here's who's coming on my podcast, and like they don't 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.160 even look up from their phones. They were so psyched 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:44.560 you were coming on the podcast. Really, Oh my gosh, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:46.960 big fans, Oh my god. 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:51.760 Yeah, that is why that's wild. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.359 Yeah, it's cooking. It's just Food's really been important my 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.440 whole life. I've had my kids in the kitchen since 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.800 they were young, and their father is a trained chef. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.199 I did know that about him. Doesn't he do or 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.480 did he do? Food Network Canada stuff? 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:09.160 He did? 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.600 He did Chopped Canada, he won the second season of 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:21.080 Rachel Versus Guy, And yeah, it's he's really good and 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.840 great in the kitchen, an amazing chef. It was probably 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.480 the only things we ever fought about. We got along 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:35.359 really well, so we didn't obviously, was over parenting, views and. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:35.920 In the kitchen. 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.680 Because while I love cooking, you know, to me, homemade 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:45.400 equals love and I've always had that's my motto always. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:51.119 But I'm a very messy cook. So but my like 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.320 my friends would always say like, oh my god, she 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.719 would make the best spaghetti. Oh my god, lasagna in 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.280 my roommate be like, is it a good meal? When 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:01.840 you look up and the kids see the noodles so 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:03.320 they still stick to the ceiling and. 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.000 Then you leave them there and I'm like. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:05.680 Oh see. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.720 I was like yeah. So that would drive my husband. 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.639 You know, he grew up, as you know, he was 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.040 a line cook, it did all of that, so he's 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.240 very clean in the kitchen and that was kind of frustrating. 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.159 But then it also became once he went to culinary school, 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.159 he had all these mad talents. 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.440 So he'd be like, well, if I'd be. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.600 Making something like do you mind if I just offer 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:29.560 you some advice? 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:30.879 And I'd be like, okay, sure. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.520 But it got to the point where I actually for 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:39.879 a bit lost my love of cooking because I felt 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:43.560 so like and also I'm a little bitter because I 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.320 was working hard and having babies and put him through 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.920 culinary school and then he went and it's one of 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:51.560 people don't know this, one of my lifelong dreams is 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.800 to go to culinary school, and I feel like it's never. 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.520 Gonna do it. Yes, you should totally do it. 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:57.679