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Speaker 2: Hi Love. Oh my gosh, this is so exciting and
Speaker 2: I'm so hi. I'm such a big fan, so nice
Speaker 2: to meet you.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you have no idea. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 3: getting excited. My voice is going up. I'm such a
Speaker 3: big fan, and.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I never thought you would do my
Speaker 4: podcast like and here we are.
Speaker 2: It never occurred to me that you would even ask me,
Speaker 2: so look, here we are.
Speaker 4: I don't even know where to start with you, Chef
Speaker 4: Anne Burrell. Do I have to call you chef?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I know I wasn't going to anyway. I'm not kidding,
Speaker 3: but I do love saying your whole name. I love
Speaker 3: your name, Anne Burrell.
Speaker 2: I just do so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people like you know, there's people in your life
Speaker 1: that it's always their first and last name, And I'm
Speaker 1: like one of those people. It's never it's just Amberrell.
Speaker 1: It's always like that, or it's chef Anne or Amberrell.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess An's just not enough of
Speaker 2: a name.
Speaker 4: Just call you ab sure.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have a very good friend that calls me
Speaker 2: a b all.
Speaker 3: Really, Oh my gosh, I don't even know where to
Speaker 3: start with you. I have so much to talk to
Speaker 3: you about. Oh my gosh, Oh can I start with this?
Speaker 3: Guess what I'm making? Amberrel aka b.
Speaker 2: What are you making?
Speaker 3: Well, it's not enough that I have five kids, I'm
Speaker 3: a single mom and working full time. I decided to
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it wrong. I made from scratch a pottafoe.
Speaker 3: Oh what am I saying it wrong?
Speaker 1: I don't want fo oh like a like a a
Speaker 1: braze sort of boiled beef, like kind of a Jewish girl.
Speaker 4: So yeah, a French brisket.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, delicious.
Speaker 3: So I was telling all my kids I was making
Speaker 3: this and they then my little one thought I was
Speaker 3: making faux.
Speaker 4: He got really excited. He loves foe. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, it's just another day. So
Speaker 3: you know, I drop off pickups and all this crap,
Speaker 3: and I was like, let me make that. I like
Speaker 3: to really challenge myself, so I was like, let me
Speaker 3: make this, and six hours later I got some tender
Speaker 3: fucking beef.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But once you get everything in the pot, it's kind
Speaker 1: of a pain to get started. But once you get
Speaker 1: everything in there, it's like set it and forget it.
Speaker 2: And your house smells so good, doesn't it.
Speaker 4: The house smells so good?
Speaker 2: Right, people walk in and they're like, I'm hungry.
Speaker 3: Except I blew it. I threw my bone marrows in
Speaker 3: too soon. I was supposed to save them for like
Speaker 3: the last thirty minutes because oh my gosh, and I didn't.
Speaker 3: So they all like fell off into it. So we
Speaker 3: couldn't like take out the bone marrow and like spread
Speaker 3: it on toast and like do all that, which is
Speaker 3: one of my favorite things, a little sea salt.
Speaker 2: Sorry, oh don't you love that? And it's like such
Speaker 2: a weird thing where you're like, I'm scraping.
Speaker 1: Out the middle of these bones and it's all fat
Speaker 1: mayonn Does it taste good?
Speaker 3: I could live on bone marrow? I okay, So this
Speaker 3: I was saying. I love food so much that I
Speaker 3: feel like my tummy is my g spot.
Speaker 2: Say the way to your heart is through your tummy,
Speaker 2: so or the way to.
Speaker 3: You know, a man's heart is through a stomach. It's
Speaker 3: not that's a lie. I don't know where that came from.
Speaker 3: It's not enough to just feed.
Speaker 2: Them, no, oh my gosh, hilarious.
Speaker 3: So I've been doing this podcast for a year now,
Speaker 3: uh huh. And I love I love humans, and I
Speaker 3: love talking to people. I love telling my stories and
Speaker 3: I just kind of love putting it all out there.
Speaker 3: I learned from a young age kind of being on
Speaker 3: nine O two and OO in the nineties and so
Speaker 3: many preconceived notions about who I probably was. And back
Speaker 3: then it was so different, like you never got to
Speaker 3: really interact with actors, and so we were all groomed
Speaker 3: and what to say on press shows. So it's like
Speaker 3: no one got to know my personellity. And I would
Speaker 3: always say, like, people don't.
Speaker 4: Know who I am.
Speaker 3: They think I'm, you know, this Hollywood rich girl, and
Speaker 3: like I'm probably a bitch, and if they knew me, they.
Speaker 4: Would really like me. And now I get to show people.
Speaker 2: Mark was so nice.
Speaker 1: I mean, when Donna Martin lost her virginity, it was
Speaker 1: like every the whole world stopped. I feel like I
Speaker 1: was a total fan. I loved nine O two one out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think I was. I was out
Speaker 1: of college by then and living with a couple of girlfriends,
Speaker 1: and we it was like we would all make sure
Speaker 1: we were home on the night nine O two.
Speaker 2: I know we would all watch it.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, what did you eat while you watched it?
Speaker 4: I'm sure it always goes back to food with me.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: This was also before before I had decided that cooking
Speaker 1: was going to be my career, and I was still
Speaker 1: like I was probably like twenty two three, about in
Speaker 1: there and still like, you know, just on the verge
Speaker 1: of becoming like a real person.
Speaker 2: So I would sort of cook.
Speaker 1: But it was like, you know, three girls living in
Speaker 1: the house, and actually one of them was this was
Speaker 1: kind of funny. And this I think also kind of
Speaker 1: helped make me understand that there is a real connection
Speaker 1: in life between eating and happiness. Because my roommate was
Speaker 1: anarexic and she would eat like the weirdest things. She
Speaker 1: would eat like dried rice, And the reason we would
Speaker 1: know that she was doing it is because, like you'd
Speaker 1: walk in the kitchen, they'll be all this, like why
Speaker 1: is this rice all over the floor?
Speaker 2: And she red things. So she would take a chopstick
Speaker 2: and stick it into a bottle of ketchup or like
Speaker 2: barbecue sauce or like red jelly, and like just eat
Speaker 2: it off the chopstick, like lick it off the chopstick
Speaker 2: and she would do it like.
Speaker 3: So on the side was like, ambion, I'm much more creative. Wait, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I mean like and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Wow, really, And she would eat like she would buy
Speaker 1: like bags of like frozen vegetables like peas and carrots
Speaker 1: and you know, and she would just eat them frozen like,
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, I mean, you're depriving
Speaker 1: yourself from anything to eat in the first place, and
Speaker 1: what you already eat is like raw frozen, uncooked or
Speaker 1: just licking ketchup off a chopstick.
Speaker 2: It was so bizarre to me.
Speaker 1: And so I would cook for myself because it was
Speaker 1: at a time when I was like, you know, times
Speaker 1: were very lean back then, and so I would make
Speaker 1: I would cook for myself for like a few days
Speaker 1: and like take my lunch to work with me and stuff,
Speaker 1: and she would like eat the stuff that I would make,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the heck is here?
Speaker 4: I know, did you have to label your food?
Speaker 1: I mean, it never occurred to me to really do it.
Speaker 1: And then I you know, and then like I remember
Speaker 1: one Saturday, I was like, oh, I am feeling very adventurous.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make bread and I'm gonna I baked
Speaker 1: bread so I like needed it and rolled it and
Speaker 1: made this beautiful love of bread and I think it
Speaker 1: made two loaves and she like one of them. She
Speaker 1: just ate the top off all of it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, what are you doing? So needless to say,
Speaker 1: I did not stay in that house that long.
Speaker 4: Wow, my gosh.
Speaker 2: But it really made me understand, like I was like
Speaker 2: the connection between happiness and life and eating like food
Speaker 2: brings people joy. And so I say, as a chef,
Speaker 2: I'm a professional pleasure provider. And my Mom's like, do
Speaker 2: you have to say it like that? And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I sure.
Speaker 1: You because a professional pleasure provider makes me sound like
Speaker 1: a hooker.
Speaker 4: I know that's what I like about it.
Speaker 2: I know that's why I say it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big fan of green. You love green,
Speaker 3: don't you?
Speaker 2: I love green. Look at my kitchen is all green.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, I know. I've been doing a deep stalk
Speaker 4: on you and Burrell.
Speaker 1: So it's the color of So along with nine O two,
Speaker 1: one of the other show I loved so much was
Speaker 1: Friends and so look I have like the Friends cookie
Speaker 1: jar thing and.
Speaker 4: Do I love details?
Speaker 3: Like we can't right here, and for people listening, we
Speaker 3: get to see each other and you can only hear us.
Speaker 4: But I want to like zoom in.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I love to have all my stuff
Speaker 1: on display. It's like it's also easy for me to reach.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I feel like having stuff around
Speaker 2: and chow keys and you know, just I feel like
Speaker 2: it's the history of my life.
Speaker 3: It's called hoarding, Amberrell, and I have that problem too,
Speaker 3: but I can phrase it nicely like you, and then
Speaker 3: people would give me cut me a break.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just like to have stuff, It's true, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm a hall of doctor, yes I am. And like
Speaker 1: I collect things that mean stuff to me or you know,
Speaker 1: and I like also antique things, so I have like yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's sort of a sense of history.
Speaker 1: I love to have, like it's I sort of consider
Speaker 1: it like the tools of the.
Speaker 2: Of my craft, you know.
Speaker 1: So I have like antique silverware and things that you
Speaker 1: know that's like my everyday silverware. Just things with a
Speaker 1: little history and things with a little bit of meaning.
Speaker 3: I am a believer of you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: people if they're like no, I have something antique or
Speaker 3: something really nice, and they're like, well, we can't use
Speaker 3: it only for special occasions.
Speaker 2: Right, And I'm just like, now.
Speaker 4: My house never gets used.
Speaker 2: Use it and love it.
Speaker 1: And sure there are a few things that I have
Speaker 1: that you know are like, oh, special occasion stuff up.
Speaker 2: For the most part, I'm like, use it, love it,
Speaker 2: try not to break it.
Speaker 1: If you do, oh, well then that means I get
Speaker 1: to get something else.
Speaker 3: I have five kids, so a lot of stuff gets broken.
Speaker 3: But you've been married three years now, three and a half.
Speaker 2: This October will be four.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's so cute. You still count halves?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Still.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is my first marriage. I waited for
Speaker 1: Prince Charming. He was a little late, but he finally
Speaker 1: got here. It's also I myself was just not ready,
Speaker 1: you know. I like, I was really focused on my career.
Speaker 1: I was focused. I'd like moved to New York City
Speaker 1: when I was twenty eight, and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I finally made it.
Speaker 1: I wanted to moved to New York since I was
Speaker 1: like ten, and my parents were like, as wild as
Speaker 1: you are, you're not going to New York for college.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, so I went to college
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, where I really learned how to drink and party,
Speaker 1: and then culinary school, and then Italy for a year,
Speaker 1: and then New York. And I'm like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I just remember when I moved to New York.
Speaker 2: The day I got here.
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, and it was just so thrilling
Speaker 1: and exciting. And I still find New York like that.
Speaker 4: I have a little bit of a fear of New York.
Speaker 3: Really, it's fun, I think, cause I grew up in
Speaker 3: La and I don't know I So here's the thing
Speaker 3: I've I only went there to do like press, so
Speaker 3: I never really got to experience it. It was like
Speaker 3: I was there for work and then it was in
Speaker 3: and out. And then one time though, I went and
Speaker 3: filmed a movie and I was there for like six
Speaker 3: weeks and I really got to enjoy it. And that's
Speaker 3: when I was like, Okay, I'm not scared, like I
Speaker 3: fit in now, like I can do my own thing.
Speaker 3: But I feel like I'm very nice and when I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm the type of person when I'm walking, if someone's walking,
Speaker 3: I move out of their way because people and at
Speaker 3: New York you can't do that. Like people, they'll just like,
Speaker 3: if you don't move like they they'll run you over.
Speaker 4: It's fast paced, correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And what I love about New York is.
Speaker 3: That I just we ruin our friendship. We were like
Speaker 3: doing so well, we were going to be besties, and.
Speaker 4: Then I piped in and East Coast.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, But I feel like New York is what
Speaker 2: you make it. You know, anything you want to find
Speaker 2: in New York you can.
Speaker 1: You can find your people anywhere, and you can expose
Speaker 1: yourself as much or as little as you want. And
Speaker 1: and also what I love about New York is is
Speaker 1: walking and so you're out amongst people, but you're still,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of alone. It's not like you know,
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing about La. I mean, I love
Speaker 1: to visit La. I love to visit La, but I'm
Speaker 1: a New York girl. And I remember being in La
Speaker 1: for like, I don't know, a couple of weeks for
Speaker 1: work or something. And I got back to New York
Speaker 1: and I was riding my bike in the West Village,
Speaker 1: like by my apartment, and a cab blew through a
Speaker 1: stop sign and I turned around, I'm like, what the hell,
Speaker 1: and the guy stops the cab and he was an
Speaker 1: old man.
Speaker 2: He's like, where's your helmet? And I was like, oh, yeah, home.
Speaker 2: I love New York. You know. It's just like people
Speaker 2: just have a little pressure valve. They say what they
Speaker 2: think and they move on, you know, And it's like
Speaker 2: people watching one of my favorite pastimes. I just love
Speaker 2: to visit.
Speaker 3: And the shopping is so good, the antique shopping so good,
Speaker 3: clothing wise, vintage clothing, and the food is so good.
Speaker 3: Except are you a sushi fan?
Speaker 2: I'm ish, not ish, you know, every once in a while,
Speaker 2: but I'm not like I'm like, oh, let's go out
Speaker 2: for sushi kind of girl.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not really okay, So, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 4: have so much to say to you. Sorry. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 4: a bit like a squirrel.
Speaker 3: I'm like, go in many different directions wherever my brain
Speaker 3: takes me in the moment. But so if I were
Speaker 3: because I'm single now again after being with my husband
Speaker 3: for twenty years, there weren't dating apps back then, So
Speaker 3: if I were to join a dating app, I feel
Speaker 3: like the mandatory thing would be.
Speaker 4: Do you eat sushi?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: And meat eaters?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a meat girl, so I would have to
Speaker 3: have a man that likes sushi and meat.
Speaker 4: That's all. That's all I want in life, A good
Speaker 4: sense of humor, smart, that's it.
Speaker 2: I think you can find body you know, she and
Speaker 2: meat eaters. You know. So are you going to go
Speaker 2: on dating apps?
Speaker 4: Did you meet Stewart on dating app?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 1: I met him on bumble And I have to say,
Speaker 1: you know, I enjoyed the whole sort of dating app thing.
Speaker 1: I went into it knowing what I wanted my endgame
Speaker 1: to be. I think I was like forty eight seven, no,
Speaker 1: forty six or seven when I started.
Speaker 2: And I would do it for a while.
Speaker 1: I would talk to people, you know, flirt a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I would I met up with a couple of people.
Speaker 1: I talked to far more people than I actually ever
Speaker 1: met up with. And I would do it for a while,
Speaker 1: and then if I was like, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: having fun with this right now, so I would take
Speaker 1: a break and then I would go back and start
Speaker 1: sort of over. It does take effort, and you can't
Speaker 1: go into it with the idea like is.
Speaker 2: This the guy you know? Is this the Prince Charming?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: You have to go into it with just an attitude
Speaker 1: of all right, this is an investment in my time.
Speaker 1: It's an investment in me and have fun and not
Speaker 1: put so much press on it.
Speaker 4: So what do you think took you so long to
Speaker 4: go on to a dating app? Not so long? But
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, right, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was really like, I mean, I was living my
Speaker 2: best life.
Speaker 1: I was like living the rock star chef life, and
Speaker 1: you know, I was working a lot and I had
Speaker 1: a great social life. And but I just started to
Speaker 1: feel like, all right, you're getting a little old to
Speaker 1: be keep on doing this, like what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Where are we going in life? And from when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, I don't know why, but I always
Speaker 1: was like, I am not getting married until I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm have something in life to share, like until
Speaker 1: spot like I have accomplished stuff, and I don't you know,
Speaker 1: like kids were never on my radar really.
Speaker 2: And I love.
Speaker 1: Being an aunt, like I have nieces and nephews. I
Speaker 1: Stuart has a son, so now I'm a stepmom. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is the perfect amount of parenting for me.
Speaker 4: How old is his son? Your son?
Speaker 2: His son is twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: My kids don't know who I am. They don't you know.
Speaker 3: They just want to know what time dinner's ready, like
Speaker 3: they or can you drive me here?
Speaker 4: They don't care.
Speaker 3: And I try to engage with them, like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: here's who's coming on my podcast, and like they don't
Speaker 3: even look up from their phones. They were so psyched
Speaker 3: you were coming on the podcast. Really, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: big fans, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is why that's wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cooking. It's just Food's really been important my
Speaker 3: whole life. I've had my kids in the kitchen since
Speaker 3: they were young, and their father is a trained chef.
Speaker 1: I did know that about him. Doesn't he do or
Speaker 1: did he do? Food Network Canada stuff?
Speaker 4: He did?
Speaker 3: He did Chopped Canada, he won the second season of
Speaker 3: Rachel Versus Guy, And yeah, it's he's really good and
Speaker 3: great in the kitchen, an amazing chef. It was probably
Speaker 3: the only things we ever fought about. We got along
Speaker 3: really well, so we didn't obviously, was over parenting, views and.
Speaker 4: In the kitchen.
Speaker 3: Because while I love cooking, you know, to me, homemade
Speaker 3: equals love and I've always had that's my motto always.
Speaker 3: But I'm a very messy cook. So but my like
Speaker 3: my friends would always say like, oh my god, she
Speaker 3: would make the best spaghetti. Oh my god, lasagna in
Speaker 3: my roommate be like, is it a good meal? When
Speaker 3: you look up and the kids see the noodles so
Speaker 3: they still stick to the ceiling and.
Speaker 4: Then you leave them there and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Oh see.
Speaker 3: I was like yeah. So that would drive my husband.
Speaker 3: You know, he grew up, as you know, he was
Speaker 3: a line cook, it did all of that, so he's
Speaker 3: very clean in the kitchen and that was kind of frustrating.
Speaker 3: But then it also became once he went to culinary school,
Speaker 3: he had all these mad talents.
Speaker 4: So he'd be like, well, if I'd be.
Speaker 3: Making something like do you mind if I just offer
Speaker 3: you some advice?
Speaker 4: And I'd be like, okay, sure.
Speaker 3: But it got to the point where I actually for
Speaker 3: a bit lost my love of cooking because I felt
Speaker 3: so like and also I'm a little bitter because I
Speaker 3: was working hard and having babies and put him through
Speaker 3: culinary school and then he went and it's one of
Speaker 3: people don't know this, one of my lifelong dreams is
Speaker 3: to go to culinary school, and I feel like it's never.
Speaker 2: Gonna do it. Yes, you should totally do it.
Speaker 4: I don't have time.
Speaker 1: Well, you know there are there, I'm sure because I
Speaker 1: know the.
Speaker 4: Culinary school or dating app which one I can only
Speaker 4: do one? Ambrell?
Speaker 2: Well important, you know, do you want to get to
Speaker 2: that g spot or do you want to do you
Speaker 2: want to?
Speaker 4: Oh right, well right, I'm a good d I y cook.
Speaker 1: So but you know what there are and I'm sure
Speaker 1: you can find it in LA because you know they
Speaker 1: have tons of them here in New York.
Speaker 2: And I used to teach culinary school.
Speaker 1: There are classes that you can take that are like
Speaker 1: one off classes like one night.
Speaker 4: And they done that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are so fun, aren't they. That's also a
Speaker 2: good thing to do on a date.
Speaker 4: That they are fun. But I felt like.
Speaker 3: The one off classes, I feel like tend to sometimes
Speaker 3: be a little not amateurish. But there's you know, all
Speaker 3: different levels and I'm just like, I know how to
Speaker 3: do that and this is fun. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm also a very goal oriented girl and very driven
Speaker 3: and if I sent my mind to it, like I
Speaker 3: want to do the full shabbang, like I want to
Speaker 3: graduate from culinary school. But when my ex went to
Speaker 3: culinary school, I saw the math he had to take
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my gosh, I'll never be
Speaker 3: able to pass that. I think I failed like eighth
Speaker 3: grade math like five times.
Speaker 2: Like you know what I tell you.
Speaker 1: I so this is funny you say that because I
Speaker 1: after I learned how to read it, like you know,
Speaker 1: in first grade, I really don't ever remember paying attention
Speaker 1: in school again, like grade school, high school, four years
Speaker 1: of college. And I was just like, you know, I
Speaker 1: just was not ever interested and math especially, oh my god,
Speaker 1: my nemesis.
Speaker 2: And when I got to culinary school, the.
Speaker 1: First classes, the first two classes and you take them
Speaker 1: together at least where I went is one was called gastronomy,
Speaker 1: which is sort of like culinary history and philosophy, and
Speaker 1: then the other one was culinary math.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, so I got kills, just you saying,
Speaker 2: And I was like, I am not going to let
Speaker 2: this beat me.
Speaker 1: I went to tutoring every single day after class so
Speaker 1: I could get it. And the more that you just
Speaker 1: you know, if you're driven, you'll you'll master it. Culinary
Speaker 1: math is not.
Speaker 4: That hard, but it is.
Speaker 2: It's it's just a different way of thinking.
Speaker 4: You just have fractions and shd ambrell.
Speaker 2: Yes it is, but so much of life is like that,
Speaker 2: you know, and and also science, and so you know,
Speaker 2: my two worst subjects math science.
Speaker 1: I was like, who needs that crap? And so then
Speaker 1: a few years after I was on the Food Network,
Speaker 1: the STEM program asked me to do a like a
Speaker 1: like a promo or like a little thing about how
Speaker 1: math or when science blah blah blah, and.
Speaker 2: My mom's I told my mom I was doing it.
Speaker 2: She's like, they want you to do that.
Speaker 1: And every time I now when I hear myself saying like,
Speaker 1: let's do the math or the science behind this, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, I'm saying this, but it's all about
Speaker 1: when those things were put in a framework of something
Speaker 1: that I was interested in, then it all kind of clicked.
Speaker 1: You know when you give me like sign cosine, tangent
Speaker 1: x plus y like all that that means nothing to me,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how does this matter to my life?
Speaker 1: But you talk to me about like weight volume conversions,
Speaker 1: how many tea spoons are in a tablespoon, how many
Speaker 1: tablespoons are in a cup, how many ounces are in
Speaker 1: a pound, you know, and figuring out like how to
Speaker 1: expand or contract some you know, shrink recipes that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff I can wrap my head around. But when
Speaker 1: it's just in the abstract for me, I'm like, Nope,
Speaker 1: not interested.
Speaker 3: So I mean, is in the framework that it's still
Speaker 3: like my kids are in school and they're learning things.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, there's a calculator in life,
Speaker 3: Like there's things you're never it's stuff. There's like that
Speaker 3: archaic plan of education that kind of doesn't apply to
Speaker 3: creatives anymore. And people know younger and younger what they
Speaker 3: want to do. Like my daughter is sixteen and at
Speaker 3: age four she knew she wanted to be a baker,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I mean her knife skills are on point.
Speaker 3: So my husband taught her all the good stuff. And
Speaker 3: it's like, but there's certain things that she's like, am
Speaker 3: I ever going to need this? And honestly, I'm like, no.
Speaker 3: Is it that way in culinary school? Is there like
Speaker 3: the rebel culinary school I can go to?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: First of all, I think all culinary schools are rebels,
Speaker 1: because you know, i'd say, like culinary school the restaurant industry,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like the island of the
Speaker 1: misfit toys.
Speaker 2: And I felt like I fit right in. I was
Speaker 2: like my people.
Speaker 1: So I think that you should just face your fears,
Speaker 1: and I think you could really do it.
Speaker 2: I totally know you could do it.
Speaker 4: I need to find help for my kids first, like
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: Like it's like culinary school doesn't have to be imminent,
Speaker 1: it's always there.
Speaker 2: So when your kids are in a good place and
Speaker 2: you feel like because if you're doing it, I think.
Speaker 1: I think this is kind of like in life, like
Speaker 1: when you want to do something, you will, and you
Speaker 1: know culinary school is not going anywhere. So I'd say,
Speaker 1: how about dating apps first?
Speaker 3: Then okay, right, okay, so we're going okay, No, I
Speaker 3: like this plan, thank you.
Speaker 4: No, I like guidance.
Speaker 1: I'm always going to be there and you have to
Speaker 1: be in the right frame of mind in order to
Speaker 1: accept all of this information. And when you do, and
Speaker 1: when you get there, you will be like, oh, yes,
Speaker 1: what was I so scared about? I could do this?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to be seventy and alone
Speaker 3: and looking for a man, but I could be seventy
Speaker 3: and in culinary school. I'm the oldest person there, but
Speaker 3: that's okay.
Speaker 1: And I think you have a little time between now
Speaker 1: and when you're seventy.
Speaker 3: I mean I would give you the exact number, but
Speaker 3: I can't do math.
Speaker 4: So nineteen years. Yeah, nineteen years.
Speaker 2: I'll give me the big breath if you have a little.
Speaker 3: Time, A little time, yes, okay, so wait you do.
Speaker 3: I'm fascinate it. Like, for your wedding is so random.
Speaker 4: I go back to this stuff. Sorry, So for your wedding,
Speaker 4: was there a registry? Like what if people get.
Speaker 3: Ann brell, Like I would be nervous, Like, it's not
Speaker 3: like you were asking for like the typical like cooking.
Speaker 2: Okay, we did not ask for anything.
Speaker 1: In fact, we said no gifts please, and we said
Speaker 1: that you know, if you feel like you need to
Speaker 1: spend money on us, we hear some charities that are
Speaker 1: very near and dear and close to us, so that
Speaker 1: you can do. Some people did give gifts, but I
Speaker 1: was just like, we have everything we need, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's I like, our wedding was sort of at the
Speaker 1: the endish of the pandemic, and it was at a
Speaker 1: time when there was like one of the lulls, so
Speaker 1: people started to like re emerge and we had our
Speaker 1: wedding in the little tiny town where I grew up
Speaker 1: up state New York. So I was like, if I
Speaker 1: am asking all these people to make the trek to
Speaker 1: this tiny little town, I'm showing them a good time.
Speaker 1: So it was really I was like, all I want
Speaker 1: is to have people that we love and to have
Speaker 1: it fun and joyful, and that's it, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I don't care if anything goes wrong, Like I killed
Speaker 1: myself to get all the details done before. And I
Speaker 1: was like, once I leave for the rehearsal dinner lunching out,
Speaker 1: I'm the bride. I don't care what happens. I don't
Speaker 1: care if the day is not perfect. I'm having a
Speaker 1: good time.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, what'd you serve at your wedding?
Speaker 1: So the rehearsal dinner, we did a pig roast and
Speaker 1: so we had everyone for who was from out of
Speaker 1: town or whatever, who's there or like everyone's invited. So
Speaker 1: we did a pig roast and then we did we
Speaker 1: had a drag queen come and we did karaokesh.
Speaker 4: I wish we were friends.
Speaker 2: Then I have to say, I am a karaoke jockey.
Speaker 1: My husband and I like go out on a date
Speaker 1: night and we go to dinner and then we go
Speaker 1: karaoke singing, like we get a private room and we
Speaker 1: will just sing just the two of us for hours.
Speaker 1: We have Carryo at home too, but our neighbors get
Speaker 1: a little upset with us sometimes, so a lot of
Speaker 1: times we go out to spare the neighbors.
Speaker 4: What's your jam? What's your good to song?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: We have like a whole set list, but I I
Speaker 1: always off, like my warm up song is like John
Speaker 1: Denver Country Roads, Take Me Home, and then I can.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a big fan of anything Billy Joel
Speaker 1: or Elton John or sort of anything eighties.
Speaker 4: I love eighties music so much.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I graduated from high school in nineteen eighty seven, the
Speaker 1: height of.
Speaker 2: The height of like the fun and the crazy.
Speaker 4: Colored girl rock bands like Bengals. I love the Bengals,
Speaker 4: oh my god.
Speaker 2: And Cyndi Lauper and Duran Duran and oh like so
Speaker 2: many of them, you know.
Speaker 1: Like and it was just sort of a delightful wild time.
Speaker 1: And what I love about it so much also was
Speaker 1: like I sort of think of myself as the generation
Speaker 1: of what I like to call the hose drinker kids.
Speaker 1: You know, or your mom would be like god side
Speaker 1: and play and you know, you would drink out of
Speaker 1: the host and be like.
Speaker 4: Okay, I just got that.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: But it was like you just got stuff done and
Speaker 1: you figured out how to do it all on your own,
Speaker 1: and you know, you would get creative with stuff, and
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was just like a very
Speaker 1: care free time. And I have to say, truly, I
Speaker 1: am so happy that I did not grow up in
Speaker 1: the generation or in a generation with social media.
Speaker 2: It is rough. I've reel for this, man, I really do.
Speaker 1: And I think if there had been social media when
Speaker 1: I was growing up, I might be a very different person.
Speaker 4: Though the same.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I have pretty thick skin just
Speaker 3: because I've been hearing the negative stuff for so long.
Speaker 1: I mean, you kind of did grow up with social media.
Speaker 2: I have to say, you know, like so hard.
Speaker 4: It was like just starting.
Speaker 3: No, if it was full on social media, oh my god,
Speaker 3: and we would have been whoa. But yeah, people didn't
Speaker 3: take photos then, and like yeah, it was very kind
Speaker 3: of a little bit more normalized like now. But I
Speaker 3: see what my kids go through, and like, you know,
Speaker 3: my daughter reading something about her looks online and I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh my god.
Speaker 4: Even though I'm like.
Speaker 3: God, I remember going through it and just when nine
Speaker 3: two and zero was starting, and just chat rooms where
Speaker 3: people would like put things out there. I don't even
Speaker 3: know what was out there, but I would read a
Speaker 3: comment and be like I still to this day, I'm like,
Speaker 3: think I have bug eyes because people like said that.
Speaker 3: I'm just like at fifty one learning to appreciate my
Speaker 3: big eyes, which are no longer as big because my
Speaker 3: eyes are aging. So so it's handled. But yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just like brutal. Ye Okay, well you did bring up
Speaker 3: social media, so I have to make a very cautious
Speaker 3: segue into this right now. So Worst Cooks of America.
Speaker 3: You're not bad, So I'm never going to do that show.
Speaker 2: Well, I took a break, and.
Speaker 1: You know, who knows what's going to happen in the future,
Speaker 1: but I do. There is a new show coming out
Speaker 1: on March eighteenth that I'm a part of that's called
Speaker 1: House of Knives, which is like I'm back in the fray,
Speaker 1: like I'm competing, I'm cooking, and it was a blast.
Speaker 3: I read about that, and I'm very excited. I enjoy
Speaker 3: watching you, not just like a fan, and I just
Speaker 3: I love the light and energy that you bring to
Speaker 3: everything you do, so you're a.
Speaker 4: Joy to watch.
Speaker 3: So okay, so you did say on social media they
Speaker 3: said fans were like, why aren't you going to be
Speaker 3: on it?
Speaker 4: And you wrote, I don't know, right, well, you know,
Speaker 4: it's got a lot of people start up.
Speaker 1: Though, you know what I will say, and still like
Speaker 1: every time I post something now, people are still like
Speaker 1: where are you? And you know, it has been very
Speaker 1: lovely and I so appreciate it.
Speaker 2: And but that show has been on for a long time, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and it always amazes me that after all this
Speaker 1: time and how popular Food Network is, there's still so
Speaker 1: many worst cooks in America, you know. But it has
Speaker 1: been a big part of my life. And it's also
Speaker 1: now I'm like, all right, what else, so you know,
Speaker 1: like so interestingly. I just started taking acting classes. Really, yes,
Speaker 1: I started yesterday actually was my very first one. And
Speaker 1: it's like an improv for actors class. And I got
Speaker 1: there and it's like eight people in the class. I'm
Speaker 1: the oldest one. Every other person has like, oh, I
Speaker 1: have a you know, masters in Fine Arts and Theater
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh great, Like okay.
Speaker 2: I've never taken an acting class. I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is new to me, and I wonder if they
Speaker 1: these like delightful and super talented kids look at me
Speaker 1: and they're like, what's this old lady doing here?
Speaker 4: But I'm like, in culinary school? What what made you
Speaker 4: want to do this?
Speaker 2: Because I'm like, you're creative? What else? You know? Like?
Speaker 2: I love this for I can cook, Yes, I can
Speaker 2: do TV, but also like what else? What's more? Like?
Speaker 2: I've got more to do in my life.
Speaker 4: I feel like, so, would you do stand up?
Speaker 2: Stand up? Would scare the crap out of me? I
Speaker 2: think that is?
Speaker 4: You gotta phrase it a one woman's show?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like maybe, And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm like just dipping my toe into this pool and
Speaker 1: I'm like, where's this gonna go?
Speaker 2: And I feel very excited about it, and.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I've got a few other things that
Speaker 1: I'm working on as well, and which I'm not quite
Speaker 1: ready to share yet, but hopefully like exciting things coming.
Speaker 4: I'm so, oh my god, you're such a force. I
Speaker 4: love this. Do you do you love the horror genre?
Speaker 4: Like horror films? Do you like horror films?
Speaker 3: Now? Okay, I lost you on two things. Sushi and horror. Okay,
Speaker 3: well I was doing well.
Speaker 1: But you know, the horror movies are great to do
Speaker 1: on a date though, because you can be like, right, I'm.
Speaker 4: So scared when you're not. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah yeah right.
Speaker 3: So no, because you were just saying, so Ryan Murphy
Speaker 3: loves people associate with pop culture, and I mean his tone,
Speaker 3: not that he's not labeled like horror. He does so
Speaker 3: many different things and there's always such like a cheekiness
Speaker 3: to things.
Speaker 4: But now they're getting into acting.
Speaker 3: I just feel like he is probably obsessed with you
Speaker 3: and would put you into something. And I'm just saying
Speaker 3: it because I would die to work with him. So
Speaker 3: if and when, and I'm doing this premonition, I'm going
Speaker 3: to make it happen. And we're going to make it
Speaker 3: happen when your gas into a Ryan Murphy series or movie.
Speaker 4: Will you mentioned that I'm a fan, that's all?
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you cross paths with them, tell them.
Speaker 1: You know, Anne Barrell would love.
Speaker 4: To done and done.
Speaker 3: Okay, right, we're like each other's well man, we'll do
Speaker 3: that for each other.
Speaker 2: You you know, if you if if it crosses your path,
Speaker 2: you put me out for it. If it crosses my path,
Speaker 2: I'll recommend you too. Okay, perfect, that's like a little
Speaker 2: pinky promise.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh wait think I love pinky promises. I really
Speaker 3: believe in them me too.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm someone that I try to be a
Speaker 1: person that is true to my word. So if I
Speaker 1: say something that I'm going to do something, I really
Speaker 1: try to make sure that I do that.
Speaker 2: I try to be the person.
Speaker 1: That, you know, like because it annoys me when people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, we'll do this, and there are you know,
Speaker 1: so I feel like I really try to be true
Speaker 1: to my word. So I promise you if my path
Speaker 1: ever crosses Ryan Murphy, I will definitely say, oh, Tory
Speaker 1: Spelling really wants to, you know.
Speaker 2: Work with you.
Speaker 3: It's same same man for ow Oh my gosh. Okay, wait,
Speaker 3: we have to go back to sorry. So pig Rose
Speaker 3: carryoka rehearsal dinner. Ah, I never forget anything, okay, uh.
Speaker 3: And the night of the wedding.
Speaker 2: Oh so then the next day and it's so funny.
Speaker 1: The second I left for the rehearsal dinner, it started raining,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was like I wanted this beautiful
Speaker 1: upstate New York wedding in the fall with all the foliage.
Speaker 1: It started raining and it did not stop until I
Speaker 1: left the brunch on Sunday.
Speaker 4: But they say that's good luck though rain.
Speaker 2: Everyone says that.
Speaker 1: But my husband is also English, and so I think
Speaker 1: it was him. You know, that was sort of his
Speaker 1: like feeling like the misty sort of you know, all
Speaker 1: kind of countryside and it did not matter one tiny bit.
Speaker 1: But the funny thing was though I had a horse
Speaker 1: and carriage take me and my mom and my sister
Speaker 1: and my two nieces, and it was like we were
Speaker 1: in the words and garriage that being like, it was
Speaker 1: kind of funny, but whatever. I wanted my Lady Mary
Speaker 1: of Downtown Abbey moment, you know, when she's getting married
Speaker 1: and she's going through the little town and people are
Speaker 1: the side of.
Speaker 2: The street, So that's kind of like what it was.
Speaker 1: People were going by even though it was like pouring
Speaker 1: rain and they were beeping and you know, we're raved.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was delightful and I was like, whatever this is,
Speaker 1: this is what's happening. Like one of my bridesmaids lost
Speaker 1: her dress and I was like, well, uh, you better
Speaker 1: find another one. And she's like, oh, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: the only thing that's going to ruin my wedding is
Speaker 1: if you keep doing that.
Speaker 2: I don't care about the dress, I hear, I care
Speaker 2: who's in it.
Speaker 1: And then she ended up wearing the dress that I
Speaker 1: had worn the night before to the rehearsal dinner. It
Speaker 1: was like, you better fab reason because I was really
Speaker 1: sweating last night.
Speaker 4: So and did smell like pig.
Speaker 1: Now I'm sure it had my natural natural Well, I
Speaker 1: didn't like wipe my hands on my dress, but I
Speaker 1: you know, I may have who knows.
Speaker 2: But then for the dinner, I'm trying to remember we
Speaker 2: had uh.
Speaker 1: I remember we had pumpkin uh ravioli with a sage
Speaker 1: butter sauce.
Speaker 2: Can't remember what we started off with.
Speaker 1: And then we did sort of like a pair on
Speaker 1: the plate of like a herb crusted halibit with something
Speaker 1: a short rib. Also, so like because I'm like I'm
Speaker 1: not having I don't want to go around and be
Speaker 1: like fisher beef fisher bee, I was like, just give
Speaker 1: everyone everything and people can eat what they want and.
Speaker 3: Like family style or plates, serve with everything, late serve.
Speaker 4: You these questions.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm happy to talk about my wedding. It was
Speaker 1: such just a joyous occasion.
Speaker 4: Do you believe in small bites?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I love a grazing nibble situation.
Speaker 4: Yes, A big believer in that.
Speaker 1: So but the last thing, Buddy Velastro, the cake boss,
Speaker 1: made our cake, and it was the biggest cake, the
Speaker 1: tallest cake I have ever seen. It was so beautiful
Speaker 1: and it was actually so delicious, so I mean, but
Speaker 1: it was like.
Speaker 2: Six feet tall.
Speaker 4: Tears, what was it?
Speaker 2: Tears?
Speaker 1: And so the layers alternated between an olive oil rosemary and.
Speaker 2: Then a zucchini cake. So like it was like.
Speaker 1: It was so delicious, I mean, I have to say.
Speaker 2: And then you know, we had a big party.
Speaker 4: Did you freeze a piece?
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, uh huh, I tell you we ate
Speaker 1: it just like last year or so, it was like
Speaker 1: on our second year. But the cake was still it
Speaker 1: was stale, but the flavor was still really good. But
Speaker 1: then we had at the after party, we had a
Speaker 1: donut truck and a taco truck.
Speaker 2: You know, it was just it was just so fun.
Speaker 1: It was like really just it was everything I wanted
Speaker 1: it to be.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Well I'm an ordained minister and I'm
Speaker 3: also a wedding planner. So when you guys renew your vows,
Speaker 3: now we're friends.
Speaker 4: If you want me to help out, it sounds like
Speaker 4: you don't need any help. You're great at planning.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean er, I had a wedding planner and
Speaker 2: you did.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yes it could have been a contender.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've impressed the ship, have you, Ambrell? I
Speaker 3: promise you.
Speaker 2: So who have you married?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: I think I've married like seven people at this point.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: I had a bed and breakfast for a brief bit.
Speaker 3: My husband and I and we were hosting a couple
Speaker 3: and they were having same sex marriage and they were like,
Speaker 3: we did oh my toy spelling. We just want you
Speaker 3: to marry us. And I was like, I can't. I
Speaker 3: don't think I can And.
Speaker 4: What do you mean? What do I have to do? Sure,
Speaker 4: I'll do anything.
Speaker 3: So I took my course online and got Ordaine and
Speaker 3: went on to marry some of my best friends. I
Speaker 3: had a wedding planning show, married a couple on there.
Speaker 3: I like the planning part better because I like hosting.
Speaker 3: I get nervous speaking in front of people, so.
Speaker 5: Really, yeah, I find that very interesting really yeah, because
Speaker 5: I mean you're an acteur, you're a performer, like that's
Speaker 5: what you do.
Speaker 4: It's true.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Okay, here's the thing. In front of people, I
Speaker 3: get nervous as an actor typically, unless you know you're
Speaker 3: doing a play or something, we get to rehearse it,
Speaker 3: and if you screw up your lines, you can do
Speaker 3: another take as many as you want to.
Speaker 4: It's perfection.
Speaker 3: Once they see it on the screen, it's perfect, you know,
Speaker 3: and no one knows you like forgot your line twenty times,
Speaker 3: but you know in person it's the real deal.
Speaker 4: You can't go back.
Speaker 3: So I just always get nervous about disappointing people, like
Speaker 3: what if, and especially at a wedding and they have
Speaker 3: certain things they want you to say.
Speaker 2: I bet you you're probably really good at it.
Speaker 1: I bet whatever you say is from the heart and
Speaker 1: very loving and warm.
Speaker 2: I just feel that from you.
Speaker 1: We had our friend marry us too, so like the
Speaker 1: bridesmaid who lost her dress and had to wear my
Speaker 1: rehearsal dinner dress. Her husband officiated our wedding. Oh, like,
Speaker 1: are very good friends.
Speaker 4: Yes, and it makes it so much yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: And I feel also, you know, people put so much
Speaker 1: pressure on it. It's got to be perfect and what
Speaker 1: ever to make it what you want. And if it
Speaker 1: isn't perfect, you know, so what so what I mean?
Speaker 1: You know, all right, sure, huge things can go wrong.
Speaker 1: Let's hope that, you know, that kind of stuff doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: But you know whatever, if it rains, someone loses their dress,
Speaker 1: like whatever, who cares. You know, It's about the feeling
Speaker 1: that that you and whoever you are marryings and all
Speaker 1: of the people that are there, you know, to celebrate you.
Speaker 1: And you think about this and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: how lucky am I to have all of this and
Speaker 1: all of these people here wanting to celebrate us.
Speaker 2: You know. I just remember, like because.
Speaker 1: We had shuttle buses take people, and I just remember
Speaker 1: seeing people get off the bus at the rehearsal dinner,
Speaker 1: and that's when it.
Speaker 2: Really got real for me. And I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god. I'm like, oh my god, there's whoever. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, dummy, you invited everybody.
Speaker 1: But it was like sort of a it was sort
Speaker 1: of a like who's who of your life, you know,
Speaker 1: like your life in sort of all the people that come.
Speaker 2: But only the ones you like.
Speaker 3: I know, but see that's also a revelation of being
Speaker 3: an a little bit older bride.
Speaker 4: Like I feel like.
Speaker 3: You know when first time, when people are getting married
Speaker 3: in their early twenties and the families are getting involved
Speaker 3: and the moms are planning it, it's kind of like.
Speaker 4: You're like, uh, what do I do?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: Right, you knew what you wanted at this age, like
Speaker 4: you knew so you wanted to come.
Speaker 2: To say, there was no way that I could.
Speaker 1: Like if I had gotten married any younger in life,
Speaker 1: I would have been one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I would have been divorced.
Speaker 1: Like I myself just wasn't ready. I didn't know, like
Speaker 1: really who I was. And you know, even like being
Speaker 1: married now, like marriage is a trip, man, and it's
Speaker 1: quite a journey and you learn so much about yourself.
Speaker 2: Through the whole process. And I have to say, I
Speaker 2: love it and it's fascinating.
Speaker 3: Can I talk really quickly about your shoe collection? Yes,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Okay, So I'm a big believer in shoes.
Speaker 3: I have all my shoes. I've kept them forever. And
Speaker 3: I love what you said because people would say to me,
Speaker 3: why are you keeping all these And I'd be like,
Speaker 3: you don't wear them.
Speaker 4: Ever, I'm like, because their art and you said the
Speaker 4: same thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I truly believe that. And it's like, right
Speaker 1: across from my bed.
Speaker 2: I have a whole shelf, a whole line from one
Speaker 2: wall to the other.
Speaker 1: All of my beautiful shoes that I never when I
Speaker 1: was playing. My husband was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Why are you putting those up that you don't wear
Speaker 1: them on? They're all and I look at them every
Speaker 1: morning and I look at them before I go to bed,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, hello, lovelyes, You're beautiful and I'm
Speaker 1: so happy I don't marry you anymore.
Speaker 4: What say, shoe do you wear?
Speaker 2: I wear?
Speaker 1: So if we're talking European sizes of forty in American
Speaker 1: sizes eight and.
Speaker 3: Half, okahead because I saw some Lubatons, I really was
Speaker 3: covered in the whole self.
Speaker 4: So I was hoping we had the same size shoes.
Speaker 2: One of them are lubaton and that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: I went through a phase.
Speaker 4: As we all do.
Speaker 3: Ambrell I went through the same phase and put them
Speaker 3: on once and was like, I can't stand these, but
Speaker 3: I want to look at them. So did your husband
Speaker 3: get to display something in the room. If you get
Speaker 3: the shoes, you have a man cave somewhere in your apartment.
Speaker 1: He So, we have an office and that's the kind
Speaker 1: of man cave. So it has a sliding barn door,
Speaker 1: and it's like paint. It's got a big TV in
Speaker 1: there on a couch and it's painted sort of like
Speaker 1: this midnight blue, so it feels cozy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's kind of his man cave.
Speaker 3: I mean, he loves you a lot to let you
Speaker 3: display your shoes in the bedroom.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a choice, you know.
Speaker 4: I the next one. I'm not going to give choices too.
Speaker 4: You're right, right right. I gave too many choices there.
Speaker 1: He has plenty of other choices and lots of other stuff,
Speaker 1: but the shoes no, non negostable.
Speaker 4: My gosh, I love that view. Can I say? I
Speaker 4: know everyone asks you cooking questions.
Speaker 2: Ask me.
Speaker 4: So I have five I have five kids.
Speaker 3: And cooking for them is, Oh, it's brutal because they
Speaker 3: all eat different things. That there's it's I have one
Speaker 3: picky eater, he's twelve now he s doesn't grow Now
Speaker 3: the damn butter noodles. And I'm like, okay, so when
Speaker 3: I make a pasta, I can't just make a whole
Speaker 3: pot and put the sauce and do what I want.
Speaker 4: I have to like put his to the side.
Speaker 3: And it's maddening because I'm a people bleezer and I
Speaker 3: find myself making versions of so many different meals. It's
Speaker 3: exhausting and I don't want to do it. And I'm
Speaker 3: like a casserole girl. I like home cooking, and you know,
Speaker 3: they see all the sauces and stuff and they're like, ew,
Speaker 3: I'm can you just try it hard?
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, so during the pandemic, I
Speaker 1: was upstate with my family and so with Stewart and
Speaker 1: his son, and my sister her three kids, and my
Speaker 1: mom and so I was cooking for nine people every night.
Speaker 2: And now, even like.
Speaker 1: When it's just me and Stuart, the hardest thing about
Speaker 1: cooking dinner is just figuring out what to make.
Speaker 2: I'm exhausted with that, you know, And I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make, and I'm like, all right.
Speaker 1: I'll just do another roasted chicken here, how about another
Speaker 1: chicken piarn salad situation?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Is chicken ever bore you at this point in life.
Speaker 1: I do love a chicken, and yes, chicken does get boring,
Speaker 1: so then I'll stop for a while and you know,
Speaker 1: kind of but but I do like a roasted chicken.
Speaker 1: Ye I could eat a roasted chicken all the time
Speaker 1: because it's like, you eat some roasted chicken, then you
Speaker 1: know what, make chicken soup, make chicken salad, make you know,
Speaker 1: like I love a roasted chicken. And it's the funny
Speaker 1: thing about a roasted chicken is it's so simple and
Speaker 1: it's so easy to do badly. So yes, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: one of those things that it's like, unless you're spot on,
Speaker 1: it goes from delicious to crap in a second.
Speaker 4: It's so true.
Speaker 3: I feel like I can make really like crazy hard
Speaker 3: dishes and I'm I'm like, I'm not a rule follower. Sorry,
Speaker 3: so I'm a rule breaker. So even though I love baking,
Speaker 3: I know that's like a science. I really love cooking
Speaker 3: because I can look at recipes and be like, oh great,
Speaker 3: But I really love just kind of finding and doing
Speaker 3: and being like a mad scientist in the kitchen. Where
Speaker 3: was I going with that story? I have no idea
Speaker 3: roasted chicken yeah. So sometimes the kids will be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I want to eat healthy. I would just like want
Speaker 3: a chicken breast and some vegetables. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: a chicken breast, like I can make right these crazy
Speaker 3: like fancy dishes. And a chicken breast, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: it comes out like a dry slab.
Speaker 4: It's like, nope, right, you do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a boneless, skinless chicken breast.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I love skin.
Speaker 1: I like the skin, but like a chicken leg and
Speaker 1: a chicken thigh or my like a drumstick and a
Speaker 1: thigh are my favorite parts.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's like when I do sure, I like, give me
Speaker 1: the dark meat. I love to make braised chicken thighs,
Speaker 1: you know, like just a chicken thigh, a chicken leg.
Speaker 1: That's that's always the part that I want.
Speaker 4: Do you believe that?
Speaker 3: You know? They say like people will be like, so
Speaker 3: do you like red licorice or black licorice? And it's
Speaker 3: telling about like somebody's energy or the type of person
Speaker 3: they are.
Speaker 4: I kind of feel, and I do.
Speaker 3: I don't mean, I'm not a judging person at all,
Speaker 3: and I'll still be friends with you anyway, not you,
Speaker 3: but like anybody if you like black licorice. But if so,
Speaker 3: I'm like red or black licorice, And if they're like black,
Speaker 3: I'm like em.
Speaker 4: I feel like. It's the same thing with chicken. Do
Speaker 4: you like white the white meat or the dark meat?
Speaker 1: So, I mean anyone who says they like the white meat,
Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, we can eat chicken together.
Speaker 4: Because you get the dirt. Oh so you look at
Speaker 4: it that that way?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's also like you.
Speaker 1: When you have chicken wings like buffalo buffalo wings, I'm like,
Speaker 1: do you like the rounds or the flats? And people
Speaker 1: who say they like the flats, I'm like perfect. I
Speaker 1: will eat chicken wings with you anytime because I like
Speaker 1: the rounds.
Speaker 3: My favorite thing is to go this is so gris
Speaker 3: but not you'll get it. Is to go around everyone
Speaker 3: who's had like the drumats or the wings and everything
Speaker 3: and eat their bones like the gristle like it's my
Speaker 3: favorite thing. And I'll be like are you going to
Speaker 3: eat that? And someone will be like, uh, I ate it.
Speaker 4: I finished it. I was like, you'll have the good part.
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, the gristle, yeah, the little chewy And
Speaker 2: then I also feel like, ooh, this is collagen. This
Speaker 2: is good for my bones and my skin.
Speaker 4: Wait.
Speaker 3: Someone, when I was making my potafou, my friend was like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, all this meat, this is so great.
Speaker 3: And she was telling me there's something about putting the
Speaker 3: meat the fat that you can skim it off on
Speaker 3: your face. Is this true? And then another friend was like,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't put like beef tendent on your face. It's
Speaker 3: like we could get mad cow disease. And I was
Speaker 3: just like, wait, what what's happening here?
Speaker 1: Okay, I've never heard of that, but I can say,
Speaker 1: I mean, be fat is some serious fat.
Speaker 2: So you know, all right, sure, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I would do that kind of funny.
Speaker 1: But you no, you're not going to get mad cow
Speaker 1: disease from just from the fat.
Speaker 2: I mean you're eating the rest of the beads, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: That was crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was mad that she said, that's mad
Speaker 2: mad mad cow.
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my gosh, but weat but eat how they
Speaker 3: have snail masks and they have like.
Speaker 2: I am all about the snail music.
Speaker 1: I'll let all those like Koreans like, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: I am a sucker for that you should see.
Speaker 2: Like my bathroom. It's like I've taken over the medicine cabinet.
Speaker 2: All my drawers filled with like what I cream, what sea?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I just like and I feel like your skin gets
Speaker 1: used to something and then it stops working.
Speaker 2: So I feel like I need to switch it up
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 4: But you have such great skin.
Speaker 2: I tell you I've been working on it. Really.
Speaker 1: Used to be the girl that would be like Hawaiian
Speaker 1: tropic zero on my face. I yes, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: the smell of it, and but I would like cry
Speaker 1: my face and I would look like a lobster. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I can do this, and my face
Speaker 1: feels a little crunchy, I'm like, yes, that's what I'm
Speaker 1: looking for. Now, I sit under the umbrella and I
Speaker 1: wear my son's green and I'm like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: getting older, but no, but I work on it now
Speaker 1: and it's like I but I still I mean from
Speaker 1: like just like when I was in high school, I
Speaker 1: use like a good old fashioned buff puff.
Speaker 2: On my face, you know, like just scrub it.
Speaker 4: Cuny buff puff. Were those wait, it's.
Speaker 2: Like not a you know, like a like a scrubby
Speaker 2: for your face.
Speaker 4: Not like a loofah that'd be too rough.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's it was called It's called I remember
Speaker 1: the name right, And I still like I folly all
Speaker 1: the time, every time I'm in the shower.
Speaker 3: I'm an idea girl, so I love to think of
Speaker 3: new things. So beef fat could be a thing, though ambrel,
Speaker 3: it could be that.
Speaker 1: It could be the thing is though it is. It
Speaker 1: has such an intense smell. It really smells like, you know,
Speaker 1: a roast beef dinner you're putting on your.
Speaker 4: Face exactly when when? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Is that a bad thing?
Speaker 3: The way your kitchen smells great when I'm cooking my
Speaker 3: pottafo and everyone's like, what is that? We just want
Speaker 3: to inhale it? Wishould it was a candle? It could
Speaker 3: now be in in your bathroom?
Speaker 2: Wat?
Speaker 4: Can we can we go in? Can we do a
Speaker 4: line of this?
Speaker 2: Sure? And then we could also do a chicken one,
Speaker 2: you know a smell a schmaltz mask.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that, Yes, And then I guess we
Speaker 3: could have like a vegetable fat one.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't be as fun. We have t PC some.
Speaker 2: Point we have the snail one for the French people.
Speaker 4: Oh there's wait, this is an endless line. This could
Speaker 4: go on and on.
Speaker 2: Tell look at you and I let's let's coordinate.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Food is the way to your stomach,
Speaker 4: but it's also the way to great skin.
Speaker 2: We okay, yeah, that collagen mare, And I tell you it's.
Speaker 3: Not food is not just my g spot, it's my
Speaker 3: face spot.
Speaker 4: No, I can do better, I promise you. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll keep workshopping that one.
Speaker 4: Okay, great, perfect, perfect.
Speaker 3: Oh. I had one more question I want to ask you,
Speaker 3: and then I promise I'm gonna let you go. So
Speaker 3: you were talking about your cake the buty made and
Speaker 3: so you said zucchini and an olive oil and so
Speaker 3: savory cakes. Do you feel like save it could be
Speaker 3: next level savory? Like do you think and I know
Speaker 3: there's meat pies, but like meat cakes, just put short
Speaker 3: wayb into a cake is.
Speaker 4: What I'm asking. That's all I want to know.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like, you know, there's the whole
Speaker 1: world of like savory pies and stuff like.
Speaker 2: Chicken pie cakes, that kind of stuff. Cakes I don't
Speaker 2: know so much about. I guess see when it comes
Speaker 2: to dessert. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't like things that are super sweet. I mean
Speaker 1: I like things that are like sort of minimally sweet.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think about like how the texture of it would be,
Speaker 1: how it hmm m.
Speaker 2: Well, you've given me a lot to think about here, tories.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you know I just stump the amazing
Speaker 3: chef An Burrell. Well, I made you ponder for a second.
Speaker 3: I disarmed you out of.
Speaker 2: The box ideas that I'm like, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned short ribs at your wedding and
Speaker 3: then you talked about those cakes. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this sounds so good because I'm not you give me
Speaker 3: savory or sweet. I'm always going to take savory. I'm
Speaker 3: not a sweet girl, except sour stuff. And then I
Speaker 3: was like, you said short ribs. I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, you said zucchini cake. And I was just like,
Speaker 3: I wonder if you could put finely.
Speaker 4: Shredded short ribs. I mean, I guess it could be.
Speaker 4: I mean, can we work on this recipe.
Speaker 2: You could totally do it.
Speaker 1: I think you just have to. I really have to
Speaker 1: think about and play around with like sort of the
Speaker 1: texture of it, how much meat would be in there?
Speaker 2: What you know, like how that would all work?
Speaker 3: And then because baking is a science, so you do
Speaker 3: have to go back to the k or you.
Speaker 1: Know, would you serve it with gravy? Then you know
Speaker 1: kind of like this is where my mind goes. Would
Speaker 1: you put vegetables in it to.
Speaker 2: Kind of thing? Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure you
Speaker 2: could totally do it.
Speaker 1: I just tried to think about like what that final
Speaker 1: product would end up being, and I would have to
Speaker 1: I would have to noodle on that and play around
Speaker 1: with it a bit.
Speaker 4: Food for thought, ambro definitely literally, I love it.
Speaker 3: I'll leave you on that, Okay, Oh my gosh, thank
Speaker 3: you so much for being on here.
Speaker 4: I could I feel like I could talk to you
Speaker 4: all day and night.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, and I'm like, I can't believe
Speaker 2: you've never met. I feel like brand new but already
Speaker 2: old friends.
Speaker 4: I like that sometimes those are the best.
Speaker 2: Right exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for having me. I have
Speaker 1: to say I loved it, and I've been a fan
Speaker 1: of yours for years and years, and I love to
Speaker 1: see you doing well and just living your best life.
Speaker 2: That makes it.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you so much. I'm so excited
Speaker 3: to see your new show, Gray.
Speaker 4: Like to see it. Would you say, did you say
Speaker 4: March eighteenth?
Speaker 2: March eighteenth, yes?
Speaker 4: Awesome?
Speaker 2: All right, perfect? This was so fun, lovely. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for having me.
Speaker 4: I love you, em b real Okay