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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty, episode

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Speaker 1: five of Daily Guys Stay production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. It's Friday, June tenth, National Movie Night,

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Speaker 1: a National night Herbs and Spices Day, which I think

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Speaker 1: is pretty important. Shout out to herbs and spices, the

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Speaker 1: best you know out there doing the Yemen's work in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen. Just to them. You've got a spice that

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Speaker 1: you like. Salt. I'm a big fan of salt. Okay,

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Speaker 1: outside of salt and pepper, is there anything you like?

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Speaker 1: Hold's that's something I like that flavor? And I guess

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Speaker 1: I guess I'll like rosemary quite a bit. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: real basic ship. How about your classical roasting herbs? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love I love Rosemary stage like, I really do

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Speaker 1: like those proper roasting herbs because the more I roast,

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Speaker 1: I really you've got to have those all the time.

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Speaker 1: Shout out stage stage the Gemini, the rapper, Shout out

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Speaker 1: to Sage and Rosemary. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: a KM. I bought two tickets to more Bious, but

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Speaker 1: there's no one here. What the hell is this? I

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Speaker 1: bought two tickets to more Bous. Wait were the means?

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Speaker 1: Just taking the piss that is courtesy a Christian Gucci Man,

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Speaker 1: just keeping the pressure up on Morbous and that the

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Speaker 1: more Bous story that they re released it and apparently

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Speaker 1: nobody except for me of course, and in the universe,

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Speaker 1: the fictional universe of this song, nobody but me went

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Speaker 1: and I was surprised. I have a hard time. I

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Speaker 1: think this is also a commentary on the fact that

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time telling the difference between a

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Speaker 1: meme that is a joke and reality, because on yesterday's episode,

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Speaker 1: I thought a Christie Amagucci Man meme was real. I

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Speaker 1: thought that I thought Netflix actually said we're no longer

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Speaker 1: doing vanity projects, like like you'd be Halloween. Got Him,

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Speaker 1: Got Me? Got Him? I did catch myself in the moment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you were like, you think it's a meme? Yeah. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray. I wanna be where the people are.

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Speaker 1: I want to see them running for their lives trying

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Speaker 1: to get away from me on those what do you

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Speaker 1: call them? Feed being half frog DNA, you don't get

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Speaker 1: too far. Streets are required for biting and eating. I

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Speaker 1: just want to bite someone in how do you say,

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Speaker 1: fucking in half where they walk up, where they run up,

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Speaker 1: where they aren't safe from a believing wander free like

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Speaker 1: a rex t in a Gurassic World. Okay, y'all, I'm

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Speaker 1: about to go see that ship tonight. Because the bad

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Speaker 1: reviews were so intense. I'm like, her majesty, put on

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Speaker 1: your one day's best because we're about to go see

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Speaker 1: Jurassic Oblivion or whatever. Oh yeah, I'm gonna see that

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Speaker 1: ship and that that was from a an undersea dinosaur,

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Speaker 1: which it seems like there's some of those happening, because

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is about them being out of the park,

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Speaker 1: out the park, you know what I mean, and being

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Speaker 1: out there with the people, you know, being to bite

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Speaker 1: them in fucking half or whatever. I'm sure we can see,

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Speaker 1: so I will report back with my Jurassic World dominion

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Speaker 1: or whatever it's called. That's exactly what it's called, dominion. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to add casual like I'm like, like, as

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Speaker 1: soon as I read the reviews, like I'm back in

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Speaker 1: the park. That's so weird. I'll watch every Jurassic Park film.

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Speaker 1: that is weird, but like that that kind of tracks

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Speaker 1: I told you I have a pick with Edie Eddie

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Speaker 1: I'm like, it's Eddie Furlong, y'all, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Who's that? Anyways, Miles, We're thrilled to be joined in

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Speaker 1: our third seat by an Upworthy staff writer who co

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Speaker 1: hosts the podcast Upworthy Weekly with t d Z favorite

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Speaker 1: Alison Rosen. It's Todd Perrey. Thank you, thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: pleasure to be here. You got the you know, the

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Speaker 1: what if Todd was one of us? I'll let you

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Speaker 1: take it. That's great. I can take the pressure off.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot to just be like, Hey, impromptu show

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Speaker 1: you're making up this entire story of their life life

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Speaker 1: The godly thing is to take the bus. I think

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Speaker 1: just in terms of keeping the earth. That's right. Are

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Speaker 1: are you from Oh no, I'm originally Actually you guys

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Speaker 1: same hometown of Torrance, California. So also like the skating god,

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Speaker 1: of funny growing up with with later, you know, we

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Speaker 1: would we would read like the Anarchist Cookbook and everything

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that kind of wacky stuff later

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Speaker 1: and rockets another one of my favorite spices. Fault. All right, Todd,

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Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: the President's appearance on Jimmy Kimmel actually like kind of

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Speaker 1: about what Fox News sounds like right now, and that

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Speaker 1: viral AI art program Dolly yeah, Dolly Mini. Before we

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Speaker 1: to ask our guest, what is something from your search

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Speaker 1: history where to get stoke coffee shots? Where coffee shots?

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Speaker 1: kind of gaped. So but now because of the supply chain,

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Speaker 1: like with like hugely inflated prices on Amazon. So basically,

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Speaker 1: anybody out there who's listening, and if you have some

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Speaker 1: I mean, how how high over invoice you want to go? Man,

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Speaker 1: maybe about three times over? But wait, so what is that?

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Speaker 1: black coffee. Yeah, okay, turbo boosters. Damn. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking, like I used to have a

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Speaker 1: you said about Friends, Todd. I was always a bit

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Speaker 1: But what you like bite them and you're like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, so so hardcore. I thought you were gonna

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Speaker 1: Wait do you like Do you like sitcoms in general? Though?

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Speaker 1: Are you just or friends just because of like how

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Speaker 1: like in the pocket of like you know, the financial

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Speaker 1: sector going to forcefully talk about like income inequality or

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Speaker 1: taxing the rich people. They're not because the game there

427
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Speaker 1: is you you receive your donations in order to you know,

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Speaker 1: gesture towards problems, but never fully identify them in your

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Speaker 1: capacity as a politician, because that's not what you're essentially

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Speaker 1: there to do. So I think the biggest issue is

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Speaker 1: until there's a way to take the influence away from

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Speaker 1: the hyper wealthy out of the political process, Like there's

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Speaker 1: not not much is going to change, and there can

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Speaker 1: only be a bunch of like noisy people. Like you

435
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Speaker 1: have certain Congress members who do speak truth to power,

436
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Speaker 1: but they're in a minority and their their voices aren't

437
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Speaker 1: like brought to the forefront constantly, like you do see

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Speaker 1: people who you know, tow the line and sort of

439
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Speaker 1: vouch for the status quo. Yeah, but you know, well

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Speaker 1: if you look at a guy like say Mitch McConnell,

441
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Speaker 1: who's probably the greatest diabolical practitioner of the dark arts

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Speaker 1: in Congress and and and in American government, he's obviously

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Speaker 1: somebody that is rewarded for playing dirty. You know, Obviously

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Speaker 1: he keeps his power and he's basically an errand boy

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Speaker 1: to to do the will of you know, the cultural

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Speaker 1: forces that want you know, the you know, screwed up

447
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and and got it to where it

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Speaker 1: is right now. So there is a benefit still for

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Speaker 1: people who are of that mindset to play dirty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the incentive structure is set up so that you know,

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Speaker 1: he is rewarded by the extremely wealthy and that's the

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Speaker 1: you know, or or corporations or with power, and then

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Speaker 1: the democratic side it's just like not the things that

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Speaker 1: you would need to and and it's not playing dirty really,

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Speaker 1: it's just like there are two parties neither of which

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Speaker 1: are like even approaching telling the truth about like how

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Speaker 1: things are, how things actually work in the in our

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Speaker 1: current political system, but there's no incentive structure for them.

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Speaker 1: Like people people started talking about the abuse of police,

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Speaker 1: like during the like George Floyd protests, but then the

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Speaker 1: entire incentive structure was like kind of took over. And

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Speaker 1: now the mainstream media and conservative media are just constantly

463
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Speaker 1: cherry picking scary videos of crime and putting it everywhere

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Speaker 1: because like as a backlash to that, it's like any

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Speaker 1: moment of confidence or moment of bravery from a you know,

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Speaker 1: left leaning or progressive politician immediately gets like swallowed up

467
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Speaker 1: because the entire system is just tilted in this one

468
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Speaker 1: very specific direction. And it's it's almost like you have

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Speaker 1: you know, like the Koch Brothers type network of oligarchs

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Speaker 1: who love to fund the GOP, who are fully focused

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Speaker 1: on like just gutting the federal government, privatizing everything and

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Speaker 1: allowing themselves to profit. And they see their their their

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Speaker 1: goals are inequality. And the same thing. If you look

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Speaker 1: at the financial sector, tech companies, or you know, anyone

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Speaker 1: who's donating any party, everyone's aim is to make their

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Speaker 1: business or industry grow. There's no one who's actively giving

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Speaker 1: money to a politicians Like I'd like to make less money,

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Speaker 1: I'd like more regulations or people are safer, and I'd

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Speaker 1: love for all of my employees. I'd love for you

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Speaker 1: to create laws where I have to actually begin, you know,

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Speaker 1: sharing excessive profits with the workers. You know, like it's

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Speaker 1: just that's just not what it is. It's like I'm

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Speaker 1: paying you to to keep to use your capacity on this,

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Speaker 1: you know, a committee or subcommittee to not do any

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Speaker 1: analysis on my industry, to not look at what the

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Speaker 1: outcomes are that I might advertise to consumers and what

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Speaker 1: their lived reality is after interacting with my company. And

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Speaker 1: I want you to turn in the other way. And

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Speaker 1: in fact, I can also write this legislation that you

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Speaker 1: can introduce that has these good things that you can

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Speaker 1: tout as helping close loopholes while also making a very

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Speaker 1: specific loophole for me, which I'm learning how to do

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Speaker 1: my business smarter. If I just exploit this other loophole,

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Speaker 1: we can close those other ones off and create the

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Speaker 1: illusion of progress together. And that's that whole fucking dance

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Speaker 1: that we're stuck in every time, because you know, you,

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Speaker 1: you go against you know, the hands that feed they

498
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Speaker 1: fucking primary you. They come out with all kinds of

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Speaker 1: you know, they'll they'll find a reason to get you

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Speaker 1: out of your seat and put someone in that is

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Speaker 1: willing to do the job. And you have to be

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Speaker 1: someone who's extremely fortunate to come from like a solidly

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Speaker 1: progressive district where you're like, yeah, man, they can do

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Speaker 1: like we funk, we funk with whatever they say to

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Speaker 1: be able to have like longevity, because you do see

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Speaker 1: a lot of people go in one term and go out, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, just as quick because they came in talking

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Speaker 1: too loud about this that or the other industry. And

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Speaker 1: we've had progress of politicians run for offices and like

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Speaker 1: do way better than they had any right doing. But

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Speaker 1: the way it gets fun like that, that would be

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Speaker 1: the thing that I think, at least I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: is like playing the game like in a a way

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Speaker 1: that is actually up to the task of countering Republicans

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Speaker 1: and how they operate. But that gets like played, that

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Speaker 1: gets retold and like put in the national memory and

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Speaker 1: in the media as like, well that's a failure. That's

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Speaker 1: when when they're being like outspent like fifty to one,

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, that's a that's a failure. And that's

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Speaker 1: why these people could never run for office with those ideas. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think it's also a cultural thing where and

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Speaker 1: people who are for the most part, who I think

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Speaker 1: are more liberal minded, don't like seeing their guy not

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Speaker 1: seem virtuous. I think there's something about that. It's like

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Speaker 1: the reason and why like talk radio you don't have

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Speaker 1: like hardcore left wing talk radio is because people who

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Speaker 1: are more liberal don't like, you know, the people shouting

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Speaker 1: at each other and the whole bit. I think in

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Speaker 1: the same way, I think people who are conservative don't

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Speaker 1: mind if their guy, their congressman, goes to Washington and

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Speaker 1: acts like an a hole as long as he gets

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Speaker 1: his thing done like they I think maybe they don't

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Speaker 1: imbue these people with such moral fortitude. That's why when

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Speaker 1: when Donald Trump came about, they didn't really mind. You know,

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Speaker 1: once he broke that line of decency, you know, public decency,

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Speaker 1: everybody was fine with it. And I don't think you

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Speaker 1: could have that with a liberal. I don't. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think it would work well. I think the hard

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Speaker 1: part is like a liberal like there there's no left

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Speaker 1: wing radio out there because that's too like it's it's

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Speaker 1: antithetical to what a mainstream American culture is regardless, right,

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Speaker 1: Like that's there's there's nothing on TV where you see

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Speaker 1: anything that's beyond like what's like left of like Rachel Maddow,

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Speaker 1: And for all intents and purposes, I wouldn't even say

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Speaker 1: that she's like so extremely left that you would say, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is like left wing. It's more like on our

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Speaker 1: current sort of spectrum of like political ideologies that we

548
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: see in the media, sure it's the left, but like

549
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Speaker 1: there's no one really advocating for like collective action against

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Speaker 1: like corporations or like workers withholding their labor to try

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Speaker 1: and get changed. I think like those kinds of things

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Speaker 1: are not really uttered on anything that is like mass

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Speaker 1: mass ly mass distributed aside from podcasts. I would say

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Speaker 1: it's like the one place where those voices are able

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Speaker 1: to actually kind of like be out there and people

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Speaker 1: can find it. But I think at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, you know, there's just both sides are really

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00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: just there to protect the status quo, and they just

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Speaker 1: do it in different versions. The Republican version is like

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Speaker 1: totally charged up with racism, and that's one version, or

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Speaker 1: the the sort of mainstream democrat versions like things aren't

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Speaker 1: that bad, okay, and like they're gonna get better. And

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Speaker 1: those are just two versions of telling someone in need

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Speaker 1: that they don't like it doesn't matter what their needs are,

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Speaker 1: but once like it doesn't matter because you're brown, or

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because Joe Biden is gonna fix it,

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Speaker 1: just fucking wait for it. And those are those that's

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Speaker 1: essentially this the messages that are coming out of there.

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Speaker 1: It's not like there's nothing particularly like revolutionary or like,

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Speaker 1: oh wow, that's different because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: because of the nature of our system, there there aren't

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Speaker 1: people there that are incentivized to do what is right

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Speaker 1: for their constituents. It's it's merely about how to make

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Speaker 1: it as easy as possible to stay in Congress, and

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Speaker 1: that's through you know, taking them taking whatever money is

576
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: brought to you because that's just less work for you

577
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: to do raising your own funds or you know, trying

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Speaker 1: to do it without the help of corporations, and because

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Speaker 1: the game is like how much air time can you

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Speaker 1: afford in an election? It's like why Rick Caruso did

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Speaker 1: so well. He spent forty million dollars in l A

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Speaker 1: And most people they're up there, their brains were fried

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Speaker 1: because of it, like just being inundated with all this

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Speaker 1: pro Caruso stuff to like I think it's okay, right,

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Speaker 1: and we we have like this, like I think really bad.

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Speaker 1: Most Americans have a really bad habit of sort of

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Speaker 1: saying like, well, if this message comes out constantly, must

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Speaker 1: be right. It's just like how the Johnny Depp amber

589
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: heard things like you you just flood the zone with

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Speaker 1: something and that immediately people will default to that to

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Speaker 1: say like, oh, this is the this is this is

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Speaker 1: exactly what the story is. I'm not really there's no

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Speaker 1: nuance to it. That's just what I'm hearing. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back, and we're

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Speaker 1: back and there there's a new kind of AI art

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00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: program that has gone viral. Miles we're messing around with

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00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: it a little bit yesterday off Mike. But basically the

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Speaker 1: idea is that you type in a search phrase or

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Speaker 1: like a thing you want to see, essentially Thanos taking

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Speaker 1: a bathroom mirror selfie is one of the examples that

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00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: has been being passed around, and it will generate that

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Speaker 1: image just based based on AI magic and like AI

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Speaker 1: photoshop skills. Another one that went viral gender Reveal nine eleven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's wild that one's pretty Gender Reveal nine eleven

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00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: as rendered by AI, I think just sums up everything. Yeah,

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00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's everything and nothing. It's just wild to

607
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Speaker 1: see like those images were merely the computers, just like

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Speaker 1: and I will take the nine eleven smoke and make

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Speaker 1: some blue and some pink yea, and they really nailed it.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like a a comforting nihilism looking at it,

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Speaker 1: you know, like when when you're you're just on the

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Speaker 1: other side of everything being so supremely fucked that you're

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Speaker 1: just kind of smiling in the ash, you know, totally yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like whoa we tend to reveal nine eleven. It

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Speaker 1: is a bit like fans looking off at the sunset

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Speaker 1: after he's made half of humanity disappear. It's just like, yes, wait,

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Speaker 1: what what if doing? Oh ship? Sorry? Was that a spoiler? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I realized, Oh man, my bad? Is that what the

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Speaker 1: snap is? No? No, no, no no, no, The snap is

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Speaker 1: just he has like a funky rhythm in his heart

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Speaker 1: and he's just trying to get it out. He's an

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Speaker 1: amusing the music. He's in a street gang from a music.

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Speaker 1: He's part of a doop group singing around a trash

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Speaker 1: can fire. Okay, good, all right, I'll take that later.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that can run it. Yeah, but yeah, I think

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00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: that's a good description. Is that it's kind of a

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00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: comforting nihilism, which seems to be kind of what we

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Speaker 1: have to work with a lot of the times these days.

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Speaker 1: But this is, of course, like the second we started

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Speaker 1: messing around with it, I was like, oh, there has

631
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: to be like some something, some weird backstory to this.

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Speaker 1: It is a simplified version of a more sophisticated program

633
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Speaker 1: created by open Ai, the company co founded by Elon

634
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: Musk and currently funded by Microsoft. The name is a

635
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: nod to Salvador Dolly and the Pixar movie Wally Okay

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00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: and so pretty on, pretty on the nose. Yeah, an

637
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Speaker 1: AI company has named their product after a movie in

638
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Speaker 1: which humanity's laziness and dependence on automation drives them to

639
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: near extinction. It's a strong, a strong choice. I just

640
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Speaker 1: love that one. That seems to be the thing that

641
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: was just steer into the curve, you know, steer into

642
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: the tailspin. Right, It's d A L. L. Dash E.

643
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Mini is the name of and you've gotta check this out. Guys,

644
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: go check this ship out. It's wild. So but this

645
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: is like Mini and there's a big there's big Dolly

646
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: coming to Yeah, Like that's a more like supposed to

647
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: be the super refined version. Yeah, the full version of

648
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: Dolly isn't available the public and can create practically photo

649
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: realistic images based on random bullshit, like somebody typed she

650
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: Bow into wearing a beret and black turtleneck and that's

651
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: that is the result. That is exactly what you got

652
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: the thing that So just if you go to the

653
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: current Mini publicly available version, you're going to type something

654
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: in and it's going to tell you that it's too busy,

655
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: too many searches. Yeah, like when I try to get

656
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: Katy Perry licking boot or snoop dog licking boot it

657
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: and that it came up after numerous tries, but it's

658
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: definitely it looks like everyone's face is melting in the

659
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: shape of a boot. So I'm they maybe they still

660
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: got a little bit of ways to go, Dolly, yeah,

661
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: feed like you know, you know you can respond back. Yeah,

662
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: that just looks like like a face melting into a boot.

663
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Can I have Katie Perry's tongue bottom of boot exactly

664
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Speaker 1: on the soul of it? I was like, I don't know,

665
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: And I tried different, like chewing on a timberland like

666
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: maybe because it would be like, oh, that means the

667
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: boot is in the mouth, using these like operative phrases,

668
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: but they weren't the best. The one I kind of uh,

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00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: they couldn't even was the other one for Kendall Roy

670
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: going super saying and that that that didn't quite work

671
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: out either, So that just seemed to have melted the

672
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: computer with the value. It was just like smears of color.

673
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: They're like, you don't know, what what can you get?

674
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: Can you get balloons into this stuff, like like Katie

675
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: Perry boot balloon. Yeah almost popped the like not quite

676
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: but like it looks like it's bad right up there.

677
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: It's just like bursting, you know what I'm saying, Like

678
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: all of those words. You know what I'm saying. Man Ah,

679
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: this is gonna be fucking sick, so hot, so hot.

680
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: The problem is that, like erotica is such a specific thing,

681
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, like the difference between something being sexy and

682
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: not sexy. It's like, really it's a game of centimeters,

683
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: the game millimeters exactly. You know that that hey, I

684
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Speaker 1: can get to that point, then we've really gone over

685
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: the rainbow. Well here's the thing right. It's like it's

686
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: because right now it's just drawing from available images right

687
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: to give us that and like like anything, we're just

688
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: sort of at the will of what's out there on

689
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: the Internet and what this thing can scraped together it does.

690
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: That was my first thought is like how do they

691
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Speaker 1: know that the one the results that just gave me suck,

692
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, like as opposed to the ones. So we're

693
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: our writer JM put this story together and you know,

694
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: is giving us the results for Thanos taking a back

695
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: bathroom mirror selfie, gender vealmut eleven, the Spina one, the

696
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: a couple more down below that we're gonna get to

697
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: and they're all like pretty solid, and but like, does

698
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: is there a machine learning aspect where it knows that, okay,

699
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: those are like the five search terms that actually work

700
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: and everything everything else is very bad. Like it, it

701
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: does seem like it should give you a chance to

702
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: like click on the best one or something like that.

703
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm over here work shopping this for them, But it

704
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: does feel like it's not not all the way. There

705
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: um other problem a I ultimately uses like raw material

706
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: like you guys were saying that it is provided by humanity,

707
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: and when it leans racist and misogynist, yes, so like

708
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: so the neural network is pulling from enormous pools of

709
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: online text, images and other data that show bias, of course,

710
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: like if you ask for a nurse, that will produce women.

711
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: Lawyers are all men, weddings are all heterosexual, CEO will

712
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: give you a picture of a white man. And then

713
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: there's also you know, we were talking about erotica. Dolly

714
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: will quote merrily produce explicit content depicting nudity or violence.

715
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: He said merrily the designer. I think it's a I

716
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: think it's from the vice right up of like alright,

717
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: I will merrily produce these images for you, but you know,

718
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: the like, for instance, the way people use egg plant

719
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: emoji in a sexual context, the prompt a person eating

720
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: eggplant for dinner ended up generating like very fhallic imagery.

721
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: Oh no, just like the AI I'll excuse pervert. It's like,

722
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: you don't know what a fucking egg plan is? Like sorry, sorry,

723
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm yeah, Like I can't imagine something that crawls

724
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: the Internet and doesn't come back completely, you know, demented

725
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: and evil, right, you know, yeah, it's it's just kind

726
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: of like spitting us back to us, right sure. Yeah,

727
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not saying that that that's necessarily

728
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: a positive thing, but no, I mean I think it is,

729
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: because it's merely saying, okay, train me, this is based

730
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: on what your humanity has depicted as these things. Alright,

731
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: let her rip. This is what you wanted to see, CEO.

732
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: Is this dinosaur guy? Yeah, Danny DeVito and stand class

733
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: though your time. It's fantastic. Yeah, I want that on velvet. Yeah,

734
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: because poster version yeah, or yeah, or the texture itself,

735
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: it does seem like fabric e it doesn't. I mean,

736
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: like the the images does they do look like stained glass.

737
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: But I'm like, that would be a wonderful tapestry, like

738
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: a fabric tapestry for your wall. It gives you like

739
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: a good starting place to then touch it up. But like,

740
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the face always looks like somebody like

741
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, a person who has had a face transplant

742
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: or something like. It's kind of all over the place.

743
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: There are some wild ones in that subreddit right now

744
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: where people are just putting their weird Dolly submissions. One

745
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: is Osama bin Laden Funko pop Doll. It looks like

746
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: they nail it Jars R. Banks at the Nuremberg trial.

747
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. Oh my god, so Margaret that you you're

748
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: meeting Satan. I think a lot of people are having

749
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: fun with this. So yeah, I'm glad we don't have

750
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: the full blown version of Dolly yet where they're like,

751
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: this looks like full blown, like misinfluence. This actually happened

752
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: right now. It's like a a beginner level of photoshop

753
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: expertise working in like or so it seems to be

754
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: what we're working generous. Yeah, it makes me wonder because

755
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: I know we will eventually hit the point where like

756
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: nobody believes reality anymore. And nobody accepts reality and everybody's

757
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: reality is completely incorrect because of you know, obviously right

758
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: now because of misinformation online, we're seeing that and how

759
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: it plays out in kind of an ugly way. But

760
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: once this ai and you know, people start doing the

761
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: things so like such a woman start doing the things

762
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: with the faces, you know, I mean, at what point

763
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: it's got to be within six seven years that everything

764
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: is five times worse than it is now because you

765
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: you can't believe anything, because everything can just be you know,

766
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: created on computer and you can make it look like

767
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: Joe Biden saying something completely terrible and it's completely believable. Yeah,

768
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: six seven years before that, just I feel like I

769
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: feel like the people who are behind it, they've already

770
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: got it figured out. It just probably takes massive amounts

771
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: of like computing power. But you know, because they talk

772
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: about all the time, like we've seen already really disturbingly

773
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: accurate like deep fake videos, and so it's clearly like

774
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: the capability is there. But like I think, yeah, like

775
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: when it gets to the point when it's like, yeah, dude,

776
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: just sucking deep fake some ship on your phone, that's

777
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's maybe, yeah, that that probably is

778
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: not too far off. But I think that's why there's

779
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: like also like this counter campaign of people to try

780
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: and develop the kinds of tools to like help be

781
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: like we can we can identify deep fake video like

782
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: nine percent accuracy like every time, because that is like

783
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: the other half of it that, you know, I feel

784
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: like this is gonna be normalized in this like back

785
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: and forth of like completely realistic images and then the

786
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: next part, which is people like you're saying to me, like,

787
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I like to believe that that deep

788
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: bake is true, so fuck it, it's true for me. Yeah. Yeah,

789
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: it's like fact checking. You know, you put the Politofact

790
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: thing up there, and then someone goes, politic fact is

791
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: actually secretly owned by George Soros, and you're like, okay, Yeah,

792
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: is there a any like trend surprising thing that is

793
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: like cropped up and like on upworthy as a thing

794
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: that like people are using to kind of get through

795
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: these dark times that that like you've noticed or that

796
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: you guys have like seen seen become a trend. I

797
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: mean obviously like pets and adorable children and like you know,

798
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: but I think those are the ones that immediately spring

799
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: to mind. But have you noticed anything besides really hot

800
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: balloon action that has popped out to you. Ah, Well,

801
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: when it comes to Upworthy, we've kind of pivoted over

802
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: the last couple of years from something that was a

803
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: little we were it was more political. We're kind of

804
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: progressively political, and we've kind of ran from that a

805
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: bit into actually creating a space it's kind of a

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00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: political and I think people really love that. So it's

807
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: almost like the whole platform in and of itself has

808
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: has become the thing people are going to. Uh, you know,

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00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: at least it's it's our audience, which is pretty large

810
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: because they just don't want you know, the politics and

811
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: stuff in their face understandable, so you know, there's a

812
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: big need for it. And and the the cool thing

813
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: is that actually we're able to do very well as

814
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: a publisher creating stories that are that are you know,

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00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: our counter programming to what's going on normally in people's

816
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: Facebook feeds. And not everybody has been successful at doing

817
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: that because, uh, usually good news and things like that

818
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: is my virtue. It's not what people are looking for

819
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: because people have a negative ativity bias because they naturally

820
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: seek out what they you know are afraid of you know,

821
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Speaker 1: you know, if it bleeds, it leads, right. So the

822
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: fact that we've been able to create stories that are

823
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: still compelling and positive, I think it's a testament to

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00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, the the quality of like writers we have

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00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: that we're able to do do well with that. So right,

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Speaker 1: got it? All right? Man? Well, thank you Todd for

827
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: joining us. It's been a pleasure having you on. Where

828
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Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Well,

829
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Speaker 1: every week every Saturday, we have Upworthy Weekly, which is

830
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: a podcast with myself and Alison Rosen that's been on

831
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: this show. Uh, you know from Alison Rosen and your

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Speaker 1: your best friend and she was on the autom Corolla

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00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: Show and she's just wonderful. And we do a show

834
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: we kind of break down almost like your show, but

835
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: we we do more like kind of upward these things.

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Speaker 1: It's it's things coming from the upworthy news bubble, which

837
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: is like positive, good vibe, feel good stuff. So we

838
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: do that show every Saturday, and I think it's a hoot. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then you can follow me on Twitter at Todd

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Speaker 1: with one D a middle initial Perry at Todd a

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Speaker 1: Perry And um, I thank you guys so much for

842
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: having me on. I had a really good time of

843
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: recent I've been more in the upworthy news bubble. So

844
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Speaker 1: seeing two guys that are really informed, uh and being

845
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Speaker 1: able to hang out with you guys today it was

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Speaker 1: really cool. So, oh thanks man, I've past five years

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Speaker 1: I've been you know, I'm actually twenty three years old,

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Speaker 1: and this is what I look like. I look like shit,

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Speaker 1: I'm just yeah, look like fucking ship and Todd, is

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Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social

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Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Actually, you know what, when I

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Speaker 1: saw this and it was sent to me, it was

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Speaker 1: like your recommendation, So I went totally like off the

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Speaker 1: board and didn't do anything that was on social media unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: So recommendations of all sorts and probably now more than

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Speaker 1: every king is recommendations that have nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: social media. But you know, there are some great balloon

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Speaker 1: sights on Instagram, uh, for for anybody anybody into that kid.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys, Yeah, thank you. Miles. Where can

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Speaker 1: people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: Find me? Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles

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Speaker 1: of Gray g R A y also find us on

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Speaker 1: Miles and Jack got mad Boost These and NBA podcast

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Speaker 1: were talking about the NBA Finals. What a game Game three? This,

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Speaker 1: I think the Celtics might win six. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling that. I'm just I can't deny it. I love

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Speaker 1: Jayson Tatum. I hate to say it. I love him.

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Speaker 1: He looks just like my cousins. Shout out Austin. Let's

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Speaker 1: see what else. Also the other podcast for twenty Day

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Speaker 1: Fiance with Sophia Alexandro where we talk ninety day Fiance

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Speaker 1: a tweet that I like, let me just pull this

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Speaker 1: thing up. Uh, okay, So this is from look I

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Speaker 1: and Carl Havoc impersonated. Uh and I just love That's

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Speaker 1: the specificity of that one. And then also this is

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Speaker 1: all the trapped Ford Explorers right there, and I tweeted,

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Speaker 1: I firmly believe that as long as we live, CG

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Speaker 1: will never look better or more convincing than it does

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Speaker 1: in this scene. We peaked early, and I when I

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Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly believe that. I still to this day, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that ship looks so good. I'm what happened? Like where

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Speaker 1: is it? Because it's most of it? Yeah, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of good stan Winston stuff. But like

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Speaker 1: even when it's out walking, like those looked really good too. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: that was just a dude in a rubber suit man.

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Speaker 1: That was just a guy with gigantism. And as tweet

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying at NIF, Muhammed tweeted, I'm back to

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Speaker 1: getting up fifty to seventy five jump shots in the

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Speaker 1: evenings when I can. And today someone saw me on

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Speaker 1: the court and watched me make a few in a

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Speaker 1: row and yelled, hey man, there's a tornado warning. And

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Speaker 1: I thought it was some kind of compliment on my shooting,

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Speaker 1: so I yelled back, I know that's right. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the

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Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page

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Speaker 1: and a website Daily zi guys dot com, where we

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Speaker 1: post our episodes and our footnotes where we like off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as that song that we think you might enjoy, Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh man,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a track from the group Arrow

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Speaker 1: Whack R A R A W A K. And it's

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Speaker 1: called kad A Harlem A C C A D D

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Speaker 1: E then A then Harley like Harley Harlom New York.

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Speaker 1: And this is a track it's just it's it's like, um,

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Speaker 1: what's the dude? Jethro Tull? Right, Like if Jethro Toll

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Speaker 1: was like a character from Shaft. This like if that

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Speaker 1: like because it's like a funky flute track that has

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Speaker 1: like some darkness to some grit to it, Like it's

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Speaker 1: really a flute that bring the flute key flute that

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Speaker 1: there it is, you know what I mean, Get on

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Speaker 1: that one leg like you're hitting that flute solo for

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Speaker 1: Jethro Tull and check this one out a cod a

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Speaker 1: Harlem by Errow whack. Alright, well, we're gonna link off

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Speaker 1: to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. For more podcast from my

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you're listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon

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Speaker 1: to tell you what is trending, and we talk to

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Speaker 1: y'all then bye bye,