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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Help all Right.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you as we move into the bye week.

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of things that we need to cover,

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Speaker 2: a lot of ground we need to cover here on

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Speaker 2: the bye week, not unlike uh, the stones that the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff is turning over along with the players. They

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Speaker 2: seek to find productive answers to some of their deficiency

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Speaker 2: shortcomings and maybe some new ideas to spark an offense

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Speaker 2: and a defense that has suddenly found themselves out of

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Speaker 2: first place in the division and scoring down, along with

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Speaker 2: a defense that still has to get healthy first and foremost,

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Speaker 2: but maybe more importantly, has to find some answers in

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Speaker 2: playing more fundamentally sound going forward. And we'll dive into

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Speaker 2: all of those through the course of today. We're getting

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Speaker 2: to the point where the seasons change, Steve, and that

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Speaker 2: obviously prompts us to tidy up for the winter. Steve,

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Speaker 2: He's got yard work to do as he tries to

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Speaker 2: tidy up his Tasker compound. I go, I've I'm officially

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Speaker 2: putting away.

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Speaker 3: You're done.

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Speaker 2: The back patio furniture that is getting rolled into the

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Speaker 2: shed when I get home from work today. Well, here

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Speaker 2: last night, I'm waving the white flag.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see. Here's what I did the opposite. See,

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Speaker 3: I've got a veranda outside the back of the well.

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Speaker 3: You've seen it, yeah, and it's covered on three sides.

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Speaker 2: Well, you and your watch football out there, right, So

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Speaker 2: that's the only place you're allowed to legally smoke on

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Speaker 2: the tasker compound. From what I understand, the.

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Speaker 3: Authorities take you in if you do that. That's so.

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Speaker 3: So I've got this cigar lounge, that's right, I got,

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Speaker 3: I got. I reconfigured it last night.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think so far? You went the law?

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Speaker 2: Your your veranda is rectangular shaped and you're going the

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Speaker 2: long way now correct.

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Speaker 3: Roughly rectangular shape. And I'm and I switched the television

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Speaker 3: to the other end. Yeah, and actually covered up a

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Speaker 3: second door that we have that we don't really use

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Speaker 3: that And so I thought, well, you know, loud like

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Speaker 3: that long story short.

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Speaker 2: It's way better, man, you're happy.

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Speaker 3: I I was so excited about the new configuration of

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Speaker 3: my Adirondack chairs and that your boy sat outside last

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Speaker 3: night and watched the Dodgers game. I watched, You watched

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Speaker 3: the baseball baseball game and channeled. I channel served. But

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Speaker 3: I watched the baseball game last night because I was

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Speaker 3: so excited about my new little space there. I did

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Speaker 3: not smoke a cigar ws out there, which is a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a downer from that.

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Speaker 2: Right now, let me ask you this, because Adirondack chairs,

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Speaker 2: you're kind of in recline mode, which is a great

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Speaker 2: way to you know, watch a sporting event in recline mode,

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that your contingent of of viewers usually numbers

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Speaker 2: about eight to ten maybe more.

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Speaker 3: No, not that many handful. I have six Adirondack chairs

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Speaker 3: up there, okay, and I've got three and I've got

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Speaker 3: three bar bar chairs that are up there as well,

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Speaker 3: so that are taller, that are taller.

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Speaker 2: They did sit in the back round. Okay, Oh you've

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Speaker 2: got this, So I've got that, yeah, because that was

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Speaker 2: I only concern viewing angles for all attendees.

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Speaker 3: That was a big issue we have.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I mean we could sit the TV up high enough.

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Speaker 3: The TV's up, but it is on a on a

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Speaker 3: high table. Smart and and I've got one of those

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Speaker 3: you know, all weather covers the flip over it and

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Speaker 3: it is, man, it's I'm so excited about it. It's

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Speaker 3: just it's awesome. We're facing the other way as well,

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Speaker 3: so it's yeah. And I have a small so long story.

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Speaker 3: We were over at the bottoming out. Remember all the stages,

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Speaker 3: we've had, all the get togethers of every stage of

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Speaker 3: the well. When they finally hit rock bottom of the pit,

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Speaker 3: that a little get together over there. So we you

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Speaker 3: not were you with me?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: We went over there and and we Thurmann was there

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Speaker 3: the whole thing, and there's hey, it's a great job.

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Speaker 3: We're through phase one. We've dug the pit for the

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Speaker 3: new stadium. YadA YadA, YadA, yadah. So they're over there

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Speaker 3: while we're over there. All the contractors in the whole

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Speaker 3: region are working on right, I mean ant Hill and

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Speaker 3: like Dwalt and Milwaukee and all these tool companies have

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Speaker 3: a little booth. They're kind of a thank you to

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Speaker 3: these guys. And they're all contracts, so they're trying to

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Speaker 3: you know, And there's a guy there and I cop

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Speaker 3: a couple of space heaters, those little turbo heaters like

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Speaker 3: you say on the sidelines, he said, way smaller.

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Speaker 2: So you got like a mini torpedo heater, like two

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Speaker 3: I bought one and he scooched me two more, and

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Speaker 3: I traded him some some stuff.

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Speaker 2: I traded him some swag. My wife and I are

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Speaker 2: big The Barter system is awesome.

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Speaker 3: So I got so those go up on my veranda

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Speaker 3: and there and I have you know there, you know

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Speaker 3: there's pro you know, propane tang there, very nice. And

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Speaker 3: then this year I've had a couple of upgrades because

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Speaker 3: I've got bluetooths now, I got a speakers. The whole thing.

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Speaker 2: It's we have a couple of overhead heaters on our patio.

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Speaker 3: Can you sit down and still feel those, because I'm

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Speaker 3: very interested.

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Speaker 2: Yes you can. They're they're very effective. We've got some

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Speaker 2: good ones. I can tell you what brand we got.

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Speaker 3: A seeing is much lower than my because I got

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Speaker 3: that big high.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my patio, it's a nine foot clearance, and I

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Speaker 2: would I would estimate that my two heaters, which I

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Speaker 2: only have on one side of a three sided patio,

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Speaker 2: they're probably at about nine and a half feet and

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Speaker 2: they still radiate heat down on you if you're sitting

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Speaker 2: on a couch. So yeah, all right, there.

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Speaker 3: May be maybe some day, maybe that'll be my next one.

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Speaker 3: Because the space here, the turbo heaters are a little

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Speaker 3: tiny bit loud. Yeah, but I got those big speakers now,

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Speaker 3: so I can.

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Speaker 2: I can overpower them, right, because the the overhead heaters,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're electric and then and they're quiet. You know,

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Speaker 2: they'll make anything nice like.

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Speaker 3: That finger quotes infra red heaters.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I have. Oh yeah, yeah, I can

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Speaker 2: give you the detail on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got Yeah, I've still got some work to

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Speaker 3: do out of my I'm.

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Speaker 2: But you've gone battery power, which is excits I have because.

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Speaker 3: My space heaters are battery power too, you know, to

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Speaker 3: plug them in or anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because my they're nice, I have that bad. I

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Speaker 2: have a battery power chain technology. I was skeptical.

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Speaker 3: It's the best for being outdooring those.

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Speaker 2: Forty vaults, you know, Like I told you earlier, this year,

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Speaker 2: I had to cut down like six of my pine trees.

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Speaker 2: They all had needle cast and we were dying. I

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Speaker 2: I had to take two deciduous trees down, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not cut out for that. So I called my tree

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Speaker 2: guy to take care of those, and then I asked

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Speaker 2: other six pine trees, and he gave me a price.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, we're out of the we're out

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Speaker 2: of the spending budget here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I said how much to just grind up

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Speaker 2: the stumps and then he told me what that would

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Speaker 2: be because I need I'm not grinding stumps. I'll cut

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Speaker 2: down the trees and I'll limb them. Because my pine

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Speaker 2: trees were only like twenty feet tall. So I was like,

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Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna try this with my battery power chainsaw.

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Speaker 2: And it worked tiny. I mean.

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Speaker 3: I was able to So that is a that is

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Speaker 3: a masculine feeling right there. Good enough chainsaw out there,

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Speaker 2: So I was able to cut. I was able to

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Speaker 2: cut three of those down. And we're only talking trees

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Speaker 2: that are like yeah, yeah, I don't know, maybe four

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Speaker 2: So I was able to cut three of those, limb

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Speaker 2: all three of them on one charge with a forty

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Speaker 2: volt I mean that's pretty good. And I have two batteries,

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Speaker 3: And the reason we got on this conversation, I told

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Speaker 3: Brownie went out and I dropped a buck or two

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Speaker 3: on three, a hedge trimmer, a chainsawah and a leaf blower.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as you're like forty vault on the chain,

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Speaker 2: so I think it would be happy, even a little

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Speaker 2: bit less, you'll be all right. All right, I want

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Speaker 2: you to report back. I want to know how that.

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Speaker 3: But the seasons are changing. The bye week makes us

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Speaker 3: get introspective, and here we are talking about.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and we do have bills notes Because coach

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Speaker 2: McDermott provided a full rundown of the injury list in

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Speaker 2: his press conference late yesterday afternoon after we were off

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Speaker 2: the air, Daikwon Jones Joshua Palmer are listed as week

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Speaker 2: to week with calf and ankle injuries, respectively. Matt Mulano,

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Speaker 2: Terrell Bernard Curtis, Samuel Dalton Kincaid are now listed as

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Speaker 2: day to day. So those four players, I think we'll

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Speaker 2: have a very good chance to return to the lineup

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Speaker 2: in week eight. So that's good news. That's your two

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Speaker 2: starting linebackers. You know, one of your receivers and your

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Speaker 2: top tight end. That's encouraging. Then there was this Steve

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Speaker 2: Coach McDermott also said they may open the practice window

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Speaker 2: of IR cornerback Maxwell Hairston next week. Now, just because

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Speaker 2: there is a twenty one day practice window doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: the Bills have to use all twenty one of those

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Speaker 2: days to activate him to the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 2: And look, the kids mids missed a ton of time,

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Speaker 2: twice as much time as Cole Bishop missed as a

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Speaker 2: rookie last year coming out of training camp. He basically

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Speaker 2: got a week of training camp and then had the

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Speaker 2: knee injury, so he's missed an inordinate amount of time.

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Speaker 2: But there was also this yesterday. Okay, the Bills released

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Charlow from the active roster and then they released

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Speaker 2: cornerback Jalen Kimber from the practice squad, and I would

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Speaker 2: not be surprised if Charlo's signed back to the practice

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Speaker 2: squad with the open spot they created there. But with

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Speaker 2: Charlo off the active roster and TJ. Sanders and DeMar

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Speaker 2: Hamlin going to i R, there are not two open

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Speaker 2: active roster spots, there are three, So we're expecting Michael

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Speaker 2: Hoyt and Ogunjobi to fill two of those. Why have

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Speaker 2: they suddenly created a third open roster spot? Is it

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Speaker 2: for Maxwell Harston or is it for something else.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here holding my breast saying I think it's

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Speaker 3: for something else.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but are you Are you contemplating a trade acquisition

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Speaker 2: or contemplating a practice squad elevation? Because we did see

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Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer play in last week's game, and Coach McDermott

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Speaker 2: in that postgame press conference was asked about the opportunity

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Speaker 2: given to Poyer being elevated to the active roster, and

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Speaker 2: coach McDermott basically had some positive things to say about

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Speaker 2: Poyer doing the right things in practice every week and

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Speaker 2: doing what we expect of him, and that's what professionals

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Speaker 2: are supposed to do. It was almost like he was

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Speaker 2: praising Poyer.

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Speaker 3: So other people could hear it.

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Speaker 2: So yes, because maybe other people aren't living up to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy,

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Speaker 3: Or you're not gonna You're not gonna trade for Kyrie Elam.

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Speaker 3: Sure, if give us, well, who are you gonna trade?

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Speaker 2: No, no, And I don't think the Bills are looking

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna. They're not gonna trade Dallas. Isn't gonna

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If that's a problem, that's a real problem.

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Speaker 2: But Steve, you often say that you need some guys

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Speaker 2: So that's all I want, and.

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Speaker 3: more of a sense of urgency. It's yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 3: hard to dredge up the passion when you were just

434
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Speaker 3: in the AFC Championship game and you're winning playoff games

435
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: every year and you're and the only thing you're waiting

436
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Speaker 3: on doing is getting another shot at the Super Bowl again.

437
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Speaker 3: And you got to wait. And now you've got to

438
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Speaker 3: go through the New Orleans, the oh and three New

439
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 3: Orleans Saints and the O and two Miami Dolphins and

440
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Speaker 3: the oh and one New York Jets, and it's like,

441
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Speaker 3: you know, you got a three game lead in the

442
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Speaker 3: division after three three weeks, you know, and it's like,

443
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Speaker 3: get me to the playoffs. I get that, and that

444
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Speaker 3: I think that's what they're fighting a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Ye.

446
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Speaker 3: So you know, then you come out and the and

447
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: the Patriots are revved up because you got a big

448
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 3: fat target on your back because of the you're the

449
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: five time defending champions. That's division and you're the measuring

450
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Speaker 3: stick and it's a primetime game, which is ho hum

451
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 3: for you, but it's a big deal for everybody else.

452
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: You know, and you know you get hit in the mouth. Yeah,

453
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Speaker 3: that's a good one by you. You'd like to see

454
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Speaker 3: this team realize that these games mean something and there

455
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Speaker 3: should be constant conversation going on inside the Bills organization

456
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Speaker 3: about getting the one seed. Every game is absolutely important.

457
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Speaker 3: We got to win this game. We are in a

458
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Speaker 3: race with the Colts, We're in a race with the Chiefs,

459
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Speaker 3: We're in a race with the Patriots. We are in

460
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Speaker 3: a race with everybody to be the top team in

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Speaker 3: the conference at the end of this because we need

462
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Speaker 3: everybody coming through here. That gives us a chance, and it.

463
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Speaker 2: Also affords you the opportunity to play one less playoff

464
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Speaker 2: game because you get to buy that's right. Might be

465
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Speaker 2: the most important thing, and the whole ball will acts exactly.

466
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones quickly and to Mike in

467
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Speaker 2: a car. What do you got for his Mike? Mike,

468
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Speaker 2: are you there?

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Speaker 5: I'm here? Can you hear me?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

471
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Speaker 5: I guess My problem that I want to talk about

472
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 5: is this whole bean and resurrecting guys that played for us,

473
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 5: that left here not very good, went other places and

474
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 5: weren't good, and bringing them back. You realize we have

475
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 5: six guys on our roster five now that Carlo got released.

476
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 5: We had six guys as of yesterday on our roster

477
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Speaker 5: that are also getting that our dead cap space from

478
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Speaker 5: when they were on our roster before we let them go.

479
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Speaker 5: We keep bringing back these guys. I mean, Tredavius is

480
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 5: not good. He had two bad years the last two years.

481
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Speaker 5: Ployer and Hyde, we bring him back after they're no longer.

482
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Speaker 5: We brought back Beasley, we brought back John Brown. We

483
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 5: keep bringing back retreads and none of them have performed

484
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Speaker 5: for us. And I just don't get why we keep

485
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Speaker 5: doing it. I know it's, you know, we trust the process,

486
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Speaker 5: they know the system, but it's not working.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: I mean you're entitled to your opinion. That's fine. I

489
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Speaker 2: get where you're coming from. I mean they've got you know,

490
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Speaker 2: Dan Jackson back as well. Baylen Spector just signed back

491
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: to the practice squad last week. I think to a

492
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Speaker 2: large degree, though, these players are depth pieces, you know,

493
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Speaker 2: as Steve said earlier, in case of emergency break lass,

494
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Speaker 2: you know players in a practice squad role. Specter Jordan Phillips,

495
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Speaker 2: Gabe Davis is on practice squad. I are He's not

496
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Speaker 2: even healthy. Yet even Nick Broker, you know, who was

497
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: a former draft choice, got released and came back. He's

498
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: on the squad as a reserve offensive lineman. I think

499
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: their depth pieces right now, So I'm not as I'm

500
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: not going to be as critical as you are of that.

501
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: They even thrust them into big roles and expected much

502
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: with the exception of Trae Davius, but that's been due

503
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Speaker 2: largely to injury. You can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, none of these guys in a perfect world, none

505
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Speaker 3: of them play anyway. But the reason they like that

506
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: it's a philosophical choice. You make no mistake about it,

507
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: and you're right. I think you get that, Mike. It's

508
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Speaker 3: a philosophical choice by the club. They want guys who've

509
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 3: been there, who they trust. Quite frankly, that's why they'll trust,

510
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: you know, maybe a guy like Jordan Poyer more than

511
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: they'll trust Jordan Hancock, right because they know he's at

512
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: least going to be in the right spot and help

513
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: other guys get in the right spot because he's done it.

514
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Speaker 3: That's a philosophical choice that this staff in this front

515
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Speaker 3: office make because they want guys at least who know

516
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Speaker 3: what they're doing, even if they can't do it like

517
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Speaker 3: they used to do it. Yeah, you can have that

518
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: debate all you want, but the bottom line is they're

519
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: not supposed to be on the field anyway, and the

520
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: only reason they are is because it's an injury emergency

521
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: or something like that. So, yeah, I get it. You'd

522
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Speaker 3: rather have those spots filled by guys we don't know

523
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: about young guys, rookie free agents, guys like that who

524
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: are young and fresh that can come in and give

525
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: some athleticism to it in case they're needed. But the

526
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: object is the same those guys. You don't want them

527
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: on the field. You want them to help guys who

528
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 3: are on the field play better, and the old guys

529
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: have a better chance of doing that when they are

530
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: pressed into service. Yeah, you might want a better athlete

531
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Speaker 3: or a younger athlete, but in the perfect world, that's

532
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: not how it's supposed to go anyway, And that's their philosophy.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah, break time for us here, But when we come back,

534
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: we're going to be joined by the executive vice president

535
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Speaker 2: of football Operations for the NFL and former Buffalo Bill

536
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: Troy Vincent going to join us. Got to talk to

537
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Speaker 2: him about some of their league initiatives coming down the

538
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: pike this month, among other things, I'm talking to him

539
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: about the kickoff returns back in the game. Joy Vincent

540
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 2: to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with

542
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Speaker 2: you on a Wednesday, and pleased to be joined now

543
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Speaker 2: by NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent

544
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Speaker 2: joining us here on the program. And one of the

545
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Speaker 2: reasons why is because October is National Domestic Violence Awareness

546
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Speaker 2: Month and Troy at the League Office has a lot

547
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Speaker 2: of initiatives that stem out from the League office, but

548
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Speaker 2: all thirty two teams are a part of this as well.

549
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Speaker 2: And Troy, can you just first maybe outline where this

550
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Speaker 2: whole thing started. Obviously it's an important initiative, but how

551
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: it has grown and branched out because you know, you

552
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: guys have partnerships now through Ralliance, you know, with innovative

553
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: grants that are provided. So maybe just talk about how

554
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Speaker 2: it's grown here over the last several years.

555
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well for myself personally, and thanks for having me, gentlemen. Absolutely,

556
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 6: Steve always great saying you. Chris is always think it

557
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 6: is always nice to just connect back with the folks

558
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Speaker 6: from as I will say, Orchard Park, the good people

559
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 6: from Orchard Park. But for me personally started in the

560
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 6: early mid seventies when I'm a survivor. You know, my

561
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Speaker 6: mother's a survivor of domestic violence and sexual saw and

562
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Speaker 6: sexual assault, and I made a promise to her at

563
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Speaker 6: the age of sixteen that until as long as I'm

564
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Speaker 6: on this earth, I will not be just a silent bystander.

565
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 6: I will be someone that will be actively involved in

566
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Speaker 6: ending gender based violence. Fast forward, being a student athlete,

567
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Speaker 6: professional athlete. Frankly, after the Ray Rice incident, we as

568
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Speaker 6: a national football league, I think as a society, it

569
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 6: was that example that said we can do more. We

570
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 6: can be an example. All thirty two teams, led by

571
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Speaker 6: Commission Leadership and isacsin but all thirty two clubs one

572
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 6: provide grants every year to multiple organizations that are doing

573
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Speaker 6: prevention work in this area, that are doing policy work

574
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Speaker 6: in this particular area. So it's been one even though

575
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Speaker 6: it's the month of October. But this issue requires daily attention.

576
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Speaker 6: When you just the numbers haven't changed. When you look

577
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Speaker 6: at a woman will be assaulted or beaten every nine

578
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Speaker 6: seconds in the United States, one of every five teenage

579
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Speaker 6: girls will be threatened in her life to or presented

580
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Speaker 6: a threat in her lifetime in a breakup. It's the

581
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Speaker 6: leading calls of violence to women that includes muggings, rapes

582
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 6: like this is daily. But the league, the National Football League,

583
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Speaker 6: every club has done phenomenal work in raising awareness around

584
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Speaker 6: domestic violence and sexual assault.

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Speaker 3: And the bills are obviously one of the obviously on

586
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Speaker 3: board with this as well. I mean, we volunteered to

587
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: put together volunteer baskets and and uh comfort bags for

588
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Speaker 3: survivors of mestic domestic violence.

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Speaker 2: We were doing that next week.

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Speaker 3: We'll be doing this next that next week. We've done

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Speaker 3: this every year now for a while. What is uh,

592
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: what is the Is there another step or another level

593
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Speaker 3: that the league would like to get to or.

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Speaker 6: It well just well one do you want to end it?

595
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Speaker 3: Right?

596
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 6: I mean I would say and I didn't. I should

598
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 6: have said this when I when we I just said,

599
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 6: league efforts. But what's dear to me? And it's my relationship.

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Speaker 6: I spend quite a bit of time in Western New

601
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 6: York and Niagara University through their leadership and father mauw.

602
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 6: Two years ago, my wife and I and my daughter.

603
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Speaker 6: We decided to partner with the University as Niagara, led

604
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 6: by Kathleen Neville and father in law there on doing

605
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 6: what we call the Vincent Commission. I am still troubled

606
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 6: by what young men know and what they don't know

607
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Speaker 6: about domestic violence on sexual assault based off of their experiences.

608
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Speaker 6: So what is the Vincent Commission. We're trying to find

609
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Speaker 6: a tool that will allow universities to do it an

610
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 6: assessment on just the young and the men. The men

611
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Speaker 6: are I'm focused on men because we're we're typically the perpetrators.

612
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 6: We're the ones that are invoking this this violence. So

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Speaker 6: I've always been questioning of our why and what do

614
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Speaker 6: we know about it? And Niagara has been a tremendous

615
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 6: partners to build work with them individually. But we're looking

616
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 6: for an instrument that incoming college freshman men, the schools

617
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 6: can assess exactly who's coming on their campus and what

618
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 6: education tools are necessary to educate this population around ending

619
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Speaker 6: domestic violence and sexual assault.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I have a son who's

621
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Speaker 2: a college student, and I know that he was schooled left,

622
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: right and center on the elements of consent in relationships

623
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Speaker 2: and all of that stuff means, and he got far

624
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: more education than I ever did back when I was

625
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: coming out of high school and going to college. And

626
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: I know that's a small step in the right direction

627
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: to avoid the situations that you're describing. So you're saying

628
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: going even further than that and just creating parameters and

629
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Speaker 2: a framework for young men to understand, you know, where

630
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: their role is in society, not only in relationships, but

631
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Speaker 2: just with women in general.

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Speaker 4: No question, And.

633
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Speaker 6: Chris, I was brought up with that was normal, So

634
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 6: I didn't get neighbors. It was like you see something,

635
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 6: you say nothing. So we don't want to normalize this behavior.

636
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 6: So the real question is what do you actually know?

637
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 6: And yet most young men don't don't see me taking

638
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 6: or grabbing her cell phone or telling her how she

639
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 6: should dress or what. We don't look at that. Most

640
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 6: young men don't see that as areas of what's it's control,

641
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 6: it's power.

642
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: And control microaggression.

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00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 6: Yes, that much. So how do we go take a

644
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 6: step further in learning? And I just think working with

645
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 6: Niagara and the research team to get a little bit

646
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 6: more granular, to have things evidence based, research based science base,

647
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 6: so as institutions as they implement the tool, they can

648
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 6: truly find out and frankly get ahead of who's on

649
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Speaker 6: our campus. But how do we educate young men as

650
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Speaker 6: they go off and become productive citizens in society.

651
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Speaker 3: Well, I applaud your efforts and it's great to see

652
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: the entire league get on board with that. It's been

653
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: wonderful to seem to be a part of. There's also

654
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: so many other things going on, and one of the

655
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: things that was an issue and maybe the last ten years,

656
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: you know, the concussion issue and the player safety has

657
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: always been part of the league's agenda. And and you know,

658
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: there was a big fear maybe five or ten years

659
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 3: ago that man, moms aren't going to let their boys

660
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 3: play tackle football, and yet flag football came out. Now

661
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: it's an Olympic sport. And I know this too. In

662
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: the town I live in, tackle football has gotten a

663
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: big boost from the flag football leagues that the kids said, yeah,

664
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Speaker 3: I want to play more, I want to do this

665
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: more physical game, I want to try it. And it's

666
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: been a huge success all across the country. Now, like

667
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: I said, an Olympic sport is going to be flag football.

668
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: And who would have thought that maybe ten or fifteen years.

669
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Speaker 6: Ago, and my quest in this when it started during COVID,

670
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 6: but when I started taking trips around the country speaking

671
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 6: to young women, speaking to parents. Saint Mary's Academy was

672
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Speaker 6: where I went. That was my first stop to talk

673
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 6: to young ladies, parents and teachers about if you all

674
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 6: to were to create just sport for yourselves, what would

675
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 6: it look like, what would you want, rules, uniforms, what

676
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 6: time of year? Again, I'm going back to this western

677
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 6: New York tie here, but it has exploded. There's been

678
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 6: There's been very few things that I've had an opportunity

679
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 6: to be involved with post my planning career. Steve that

680
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 6: you go from being a participant as you well know,

681
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 6: to now a contributor. And I've always struggled with how

682
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 6: could I provide something back to the game that like,

683
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 6: how can I make a contribution back to the game

684
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 6: that has done so much for me and my family.

685
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 6: So this movement, this flag movement of creating an environment

686
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 6: and platforms for young ladies to compete at the youth level,

687
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 6: the high school level, the collegiate level. Play earned scholarships

688
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 6: like you and I did LA twenty eight Olympics, and

689
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 6: in December The membership commissioner mentioned this a couple of

690
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 6: weeks back. The membership will be voting on make an

691
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 6: investment in a pro flag league for women and men.

692
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 6: So it's completed the whole ecosystem. And excited about that.

693
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because Troy, I know you see it

694
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: on a much more national level in terms of its growth.

695
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: I mean, just us here in Western New York. I

696
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: mean we Presstontigue in our Community Relations office does a

697
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: fantastic job with the flag programs here in Western New

698
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: York and supporting them. Whether we're holding tournaments here in

699
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: the Fieldhouse on weekends for flag teams for girls and boys,

700
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: but I mean we're interviewing high school coaches here on

701
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: our set on the show about like, hey, we had

702
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: ten girls last year, we had forty try out this year.

703
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: Like that's one year to the next. Like it's mushrooming here.

704
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

705
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 6: I would tell you if not for for Saint Mary's,

706
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 6: because the young ladies came to we brought them to

707
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 6: the Pro Bowl. That was how we got the momentum

708
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 6: started in the state of New York. It was parent feedback,

709
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 6: student feedback, and now it is it is it's a

710
00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 6: true movement.

711
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: It's been great to see. And all right, last thing

712
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: for me, I gotta ask you. Years ago, I was

713
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: at the first kickoff the summit where we tried to

714
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: fix the kickoff and you know, fit and I know

715
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: I talked too much in that room. I knew I did.

716
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: But aside from that, you said at the very outset

717
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 3: of that meeting that the league was committed to keeping

718
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: the foot in the game. You wanted to make sure

719
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: the kickoff didn't go away, and you went through an

720
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: iteration and the standing start kick started. And then this

721
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: year it has really emerged. At Man, it's back. It's

722
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: a dynamic part of the game again. Teams are putting

723
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 3: the ball in play and it looks like a real

724
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: football play again. And you've got to be very gratified

725
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: by how the kickoff and kickoff return teams are back

726
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: on the roster and making contributions.

727
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Speaker 6: Well, Steve, most don't remember that time when you came

728
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 6: in and you were an integral part. Why because most

729
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 6: young people who don't do don't do any research. You

730
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 6: are a fantastic, fantastic special teams player. And we talk

731
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 6: about the three phases of the game. I'm not going

732
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 6: to college if not for punt and punt return period.

733
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Speaker 6: And I just happened to learn how to play defensive back,

734
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 6: and it was important at this level to keep the

735
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 6: foot in the game. So having people like yourself involved. Hey,

736
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 6: we tried a few things, made a couple tweaks. The

737
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 6: dynamic kickoff today going into week seven, it has an

738
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 6: almost an eighty percent return rate. And we look at

739
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 6: protecting players from unnecessary risk. We really feel like we've

740
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 6: got to a place where from an injury standpoint, it

741
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 6: is equivalent to that of that scrimmage play, that offensive

742
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 6: defensive play. So that space and speed that we talked

743
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 6: about years ago, Man, how do we reduce the risk

744
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 6: that's associated with that space and speed and those high

745
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 6: impact plays. It's been wonderful to see there's been some

746
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 6: unintended consequences. On a positive side, it has changed the

747
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 6: last when you look at the last two minutes of

748
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 6: the game, Man, is it ball gon Land? The ends on,

749
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 6: they're gonna kick it out of the back like It

750
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 6: has changed strategy on how people are approaching the last

751
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 6: four minutes and inside it too. So positive results today,

752
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 6: very low injuries, as we would say we're hoping our

753
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 6: data says that we should be introducing maybe a little

754
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 6: over one thousand more active plays into the game.

755
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Speaker 3: It's awesome stuff.

756
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: Troy always crazy to catch up with here. We appreciate

757
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: the time, and we'll catch up with you down the line.

758
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you, Steve appreciate.

759
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: Troy all Right.

760
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: Appreciated Troy. NFL Executive vice President of Football Operations, Troy

761
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: Vincent joining us. Always a good conversation with him on

762
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: a number of topics. Very often we can't get to

763
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: all of them in the time we have with him.

764
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: He's a busy guy, but he gives us time and

765
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: we appreciate it. And it's nice when we can kind

766
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: of just get the league view, which you know is

767
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: where his perch sits.

768
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: There. He's got a macro view of everything. Yes, it's

769
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: kind of nicety here.

770
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: But he's right because the league sends us updated stats

771
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: every year, or every week, i should say, And through

772
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: Week six, touchbacks are down to fifteen and a half

773
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: percent of all kickoffs. Returns on all kickoffs this season

774
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: eighty one point seven percent. It's over eighty. Troy probably

775
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: had last week's number. It's over eighty now. It's eighty

776
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: one point seven percent of kickoffs are now returned. And yes,

777
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: it's made the game more exciting. I don't think the's

778
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 2: any questions.

779
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: Right, And the interesting thing is, like he said, it's

780
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: now it's a strategy. Do you want to put this

781
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: kick in play here with the final four minutes, the

782
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: final two minutes of the game, or do you want

783
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: to give our deep you know, do we want to

784
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: take the risk of giving it to him or do

785
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: we want the extra yards we could get by a

786
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: good coverage. You know, it's now they've got choices to make,

787
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: and it's a lot it's a lot more fun and intriguing.

788
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's better to watch. Yeah,

789
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: it's more entertaining to watch. Got to take a break here,

790
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: but we're gonna get to the phone calls when we

791
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,720
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792
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799
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: one bye week want for the Bills? And back to

800
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: the phones we go, and to Steve in Orchard Park.

801
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: What's up Steve?

802
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, how you doing good?

803
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: Good?

804
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 7: I just want to know your pinon on some things.

805
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 7: Here's my take on it. What I want is for

806
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 7: Joe to kind of get things straightened out on offense,

807
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 7: mainly regarding our passing game. I want to know what

808
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 7: you guys think. I was encouraged by the signings of

809
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 7: our off season additions to the receiver room, and each

810
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 7: of these guys has performed well in other teams, but

811
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 7: it just doesn't seem like it's clicking, mainly in the

812
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 7: passing game. Our run game is good, tight ends are good,

813
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 7: but something's missing with our downfield passing. And I just

814
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 7: want Joe Brady to kind of structure some of these

815
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 7: game plans like he had last year. He used all

816
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 7: three backs in different situations. I think Ray Davis is

817
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 7: a great change of paceback. He's more of a punisher,

818
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 7: and as far as the receivers go, i'd like to

819
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 7: see Coleman moved around. I think the kid can run

820
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 7: more than two row routes, the back shoulder in the fade.

821
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 7: Maybe put him in the slot for all m a

822
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 7: quick slant for all MC dig match up him on

823
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 7: a smaller nickelback. We need to do these things so

824
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 7: we could be successful. And that's what I'm hoping he

825
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 7: does in this bye week.

826
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: Thanks and I listen, Yeah, sure, thanks, Steve. I actually

827
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 2: talked to Dan Orlovsky about that, moving Coleman into the slot,

828
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: where he played an awful lot in his time at

829
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 2: Florida State and at Michigan State. He's comfortable in there,

830
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 2: having done it before, and it will afford him more

831
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: advantageous opportunities. And Dan was in favor of that, and

832
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked if we see some of that

833
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: going forward, if they believe it will help to unlock Coleman.

834
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: And then beyond that, You're right, we did see expert

835
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: usage of the three backs within the scope of the

836
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: offense last season. We haven't seen it much, not nearly

837
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: to the same degree this year. I think it's due

838
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: in part to the fact that Cook has been extraordinarily productive.

839
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons. And then I think secondarily

840
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: maybe they have gotten away from throwing to the backs

841
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: a little bit more or in the way that they

842
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: did last year. We haven't seen that through the first

843
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: six games to the same degree of frequency. I think

844
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: that's safe to say this year. And look, could you

845
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 2: get back to that, You absolutely could. It could unlock

846
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 2: maybe some other things in the passing game going forward.

847
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: So I would expect this coaching staff to look at

848
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: both of those things that you mentioned here in the

849
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 2: bye week to see if there's fruit on the branch

850
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: that hasn't been picked yet.

851
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think most of us are in the same

852
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: spot where we've seen this offense race up and down

853
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: the field and score and it's a lot of fun

854
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: to watch. And then they've hit a couple of rough

855
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: spots in this season, and you offer a couple of

856
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: all of us have offered a couple of suggestions, moving

857
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: Coleman around, trying some different personnel forminations running backs more

858
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 3: than pushing the ball down the field a little more.

859
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: We've all offered things, But there's no question most of

860
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: us think that the team needs to shake it up

861
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: a little bit offensively, a little stagnant, right, Maybe they're

862
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: getting predictable, Maybe they're Maybe they faced a defense in

863
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: Atlanta that gave them some stuff they weren't quite ready for.

864
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 2: They weren't ready protection wise. They are throwing stuff at

865
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Speaker 2: them that they had clearly not seen on tape from

866
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: Atlanta before, and they had the benefit of the bye

867
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Speaker 2: week to throw some wrinkles in and they had some.

868
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: So that makes it look even worse than maybe it is.

869
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 3: But I think all of us are in the same boat.

870
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: The strength of this team has been their ability to

871
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 3: score points, and it's been curtailed in the last couple

872
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: of weeks, maybe for different reasons, but certainly it's not

873
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 3: the high flying or fast paced offense. You know, we're

874
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: snapping off chunks of plays down after down, staying on

875
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 3: the field and third down. They were two of nine

876
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: the other night against Atlanta on third down, so it

877
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: wasn't And I think all of us are in the

878
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: same boat. You know, first of all, what's going on,

879
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: why did it happen, and what can we do to

880
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: turn it around? So yeah, I'm we're all with you,

881
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: Steve On from Orchard Park, whatever suggestions we offer. I

882
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: think the players and the coaches for sure have some

883
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: pretty specific ideas of what they can do, what they

884
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: have done, what didn't work, and what will work, and

885
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 3: some and a path forward as to make it better.

886
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 3: And you know that's what this bye week will all

887
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: be about, is getting it ingrained and you know, putting

888
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: their foot back on the gas offensively. So that's all

889
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 3: in there, and I agree with.

890
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: You, got to take a break here. When we come back,

891
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: our number two is going to begin with our good

892
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: friend Eric Wood will get his thoughts on the Monday

893
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: night performance and what he might want to see change

894
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: with Buffalo's offense, Buffalo's defense through the course of bye

895
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: week self scouting. Eric Wood coming up next here on

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899
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Speaker 2: that eats like a meal. All right, Eric, we've had

907
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 2: a day to kind of digest it, let our emotions

908
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 2: calm down a bit. After a performance that didn't meet

909
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: expectations in Atlanta on Monday night. What what do you

910
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: think the approach is going into a bye week off

911
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: a performance like that? You want to still examine all

912
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: the things you would normally examine. How much does the

913
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: loss and the performance in that loss maybe impact where

914
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Speaker 2: they're digging.

915
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Speaker 8: Regardless of the result on Monday night, they were going

916
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 8: to do a lot of self scouting, see if they

917
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 8: have certain tendencies, look at different weaknesses that pop up throughout,

918
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 8: you know, whatever part of the season. Ideally you're bye

919
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 8: weeks later in the year, but you know, six games

920
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 8: into the season, you have enough newer guys playing that

921
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 8: I don't know, maybe you wanted earlier in the season,

922
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 8: so you can take time to go back and self evaluate.

923
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 8: When you're right into that next game plan each and

924
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 8: every week, it could be hard to go back and say,

925
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 8: out of this personnel group, we are eighty five percent run.

926
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 8: Teams are keying in on this. When we line up

927
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 8: in this defensive alignment. We have these tendencies and teams

928
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 8: are picking up on it. And I know that there's

929
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Speaker 8: staff members outside of you know, your traditional position coaches

930
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Speaker 8: that will look at those week in and week out.

931
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Speaker 8: But this gives you extended time and allows the position coaches,

932
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Speaker 8: the coordinator Sean McDermott, to go back and look at

933
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 8: any tendencies, what's popping up and so based upon the

934
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 8: results of the last two games and some things we

935
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 8: saw creeping into those weeks, this by week comes I

936
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Speaker 8: guess at a good time. Sometimes you want to watch

937
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 8: that taste out of your out, but it comes at

938
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 8: a good time for them to evaluate.

939
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Speaker 4: Where they are right now.

940
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Speaker 8: I mean realistically, yes, there's concerns, no doubt about it.

941
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 8: There's also concerns around most organizations in the NFL. And

942
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 8: if you look at current Super Bowl odds, the Bills

943
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 8: and the Chiefs are tied for the best chance to

944
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 8: win the Super Bowl. Now, it doesn't exempt either team

945
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 8: from needing to know figure stuff out along the way.

946
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 4: But we've done this before.

947
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 8: I mean, if you look back at twenty seventeen, we

948
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 8: make the playoffs, and I'm not using that season as

949
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 8: a benchmark for this team, but we had the worst

950
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 8: three game stretch point differential wise in franchise history. And

951
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 8: then even dating back to twenty twenty, we've always lost

952
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 8: two games in a row that have looked like clunkers,

953
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 8: and it doesn't make them excusable, and you don't want

954
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 8: them to happen, but I have faith in the organization

955
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 8: that they'll be able to rectify some things.

956
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: I was listening earlier.

957
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 8: I'm my way home from somewhere, and I thought we would,

958
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 8: you know, dig in on patio.

959
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 4: Furniture and whatnot, like you guys were earlier. But we're

960
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 4: sorry enough, right right with the good stuff?

961
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, we started out with that without you Sorry.

962
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 3: Let's let's talk a little bit. Most of the conversation

963
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 3: has been the injuries defensively and the offense is in ability.

964
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: They stopped being able to score points. It just started

965
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 3: to look like a heavy lift. And a lot of

966
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 3: people have their own ideas about, hey, let's try, you know,

967
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: move Comban around, let's get the running backs involved, Moore,

968
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: let's try different personnel combinations. How much of this and

969
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 3: how much of the struggles of late could be fixed

970
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: if they just had all their guys healthy.

971
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Speaker 8: I think it makes a significant factor. I mean on

972
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Speaker 8: both sides of the ball. When you look at the

973
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 8: amount of injuries that we've had and how it's affected

974
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 8: game plans and personnel groupings that you can use throughout

975
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 8: a game, I mean you ask more about the offense

976
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 8: side of the football there.

977
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 4: I mean defensively, I mean.

978
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 8: I mean gutsy effort, especially by those three defensive tackles

979
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 8: to play the amount of snaps they did. You go

980
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 8: into a game with four, you lose Daikon. That's a

981
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 8: tough situation to be in. You have Jordan Phillips who

982
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 8: joined the team after training camp and was out for

983
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 8: a week because of personal matters, and then at Oliver's

984
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 8: just returning off an injury. And then you have a

985
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 8: rookie and Dion Walker, who some thought we'd have to

986
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 8: ease in because of the back concerns that dropped him

987
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 8: to the fourth round for the Bills to be able

988
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 8: to pick him up. But on the offensive side of

989
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 8: the football, injuries are definitely playing a factor. I mean,

990
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 8: when you look at the last game with Stamuel out

991
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 8: and you think about, you know, just the speed factor

992
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 8: that he can bring to an offense.

993
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 4: Palmer leaves the game, Kinkaid not being out there.

994
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 8: Those are big pieces for you and Samuel maybe not

995
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 8: as big as the other two just based upon how

996
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 8: they use him throughout a game, but those are significant

997
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 8: players to be out and it allowed Atlanta to you know,

998
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,479
Speaker 8: take away a lot of the passing game throughout the game.

999
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 8: And also, I mean give Jeff Ulbrick, the defensive coordinator credit.

1000
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 8: They blitzed, I believe, on sixty percent of Josh Allen's

1001
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 8: dropbacks and it just seemed that it got them out

1002
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 8: of sync. And then, you know, this offensive line one

1003
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 8: of the best in the NFL. When you're not sure

1004
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 8: if they're blitzing on each play, it makes it harder

1005
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 8: to do your just assignment when they don't blitz because

1006
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 8: you're worried about what the look is and maybe not

1007
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 8: necessarily about your technique. So learning experience across the board,

1008
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 8: I'm assuming next time a team wants to light them

1009
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 8: up and it's a copycap league, I assume other teams

1010
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 8: will try and approach the Bills offense in that way,

1011
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 8: especially in obvious pass situations. I expect this Bills team

1012
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 8: to have better answers. Now you can be more efficient

1013
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 8: on first and second down. Hurts yourself with penalties and

1014
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 8: other things that lead you to those obvious passing situations.

1015
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 8: That Josh Allen was just under a lot of dress

1016
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 8: and he just did not look comfortable. Sean McDermot said

1017
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 8: after the game. You know it just we're not We're

1018
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 8: making it too hard on him. It's not easy for

1019
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 8: him right now, and I get that, but give the

1020
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 8: Falcons some credit there. They had a solid game plan

1021
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 8: and they got a bunch of good pass rushers. And

1022
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 8: so I am in the camp though that I do

1023
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 8: think we can move Keon Coleman around, and he's a

1024
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 8: second year player. He got some confidence after Week one

1025
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 8: didn't have the production he wanted. The next few games,

1026
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 8: he gets suspended again and misses some time early in

1027
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 8: the Patriots game. I'm not saying we need to replace

1028
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 8: Shakir in the slot, but maybe moving him around. And

1029
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 8: at this point, I'm sure it's working in practice because

1030
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 8: we're seeing it during the games. But those fifty to

1031
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 8: fifty balls that we're trying to give him against some

1032
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 8: of the better corners on each team each and every week.

1033
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 4: They're just not working right now.

1034
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 8: So how do we get him going because we need

1035
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 8: him to be a factor moving forward? Is a confidence

1036
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 8: that comes from maybe getting him in the slot more,

1037
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 8: moved him around a little bit, possible, a screen here

1038
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 8: and there, just something to get him going because we

1039
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 8: need him to be a factor.

1040
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Speaker 2: Eric, One thing you and I've discussed a little bit

1041
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: off air is how the energy and the sense of

1042
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: urgency at the beginning of games for this football team

1043
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: has seemingly been absent the better part of the last

1044
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: three games. And I don't have to tell you being

1045
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: a former player, that you've got to bring just as

1046
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: much as emotional investment to a game as physical investment.

1047
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: In this league, the margins are too narrow, and if

1048
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: you're not juiced up to play and ready to go,

1049
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna get run over. And I think it was

1050
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: very clear on Monday night that Atlanta was juiced to

1051
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: play and the Bills did not match that emotional intensity.

1052
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: How do you recapture that as a team, and maybe

1053
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: how can internal player driven leadership pull that out of

1054
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: their teammates, so as an entire eleven man unit, you

1055
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: can see it and feel it on the field at

1056
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: the beginning of the game.

1057
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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think some of that comes with success

1058
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 8: as well. You know, we've talked about that before when

1059
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 8: people have critique the Bill's sideline sometimes is really energetic

1060
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 8: and they're jumping around.

1061
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: At other times they're not.

1062
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 8: Well, it's hard when you're not making plays and you're

1063
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 8: hurting yourself with penalties and turnovers to get up in

1064
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 8: those moments or to you know, celebrate a good hit

1065
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 8: or whatever it may be. You know, this is a

1066
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 8: Bills team that's going to get every team's best shot.

1067
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 8: Just you got the league MVP from last year at quarterback,

1068
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 8: the success that they've had started the season four to zero,

1069
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 8: they're gonna get every team's best shot. And they got

1070
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 8: to understand that week and a week out from a

1071
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 8: game planning perspective, and as far as the energy and

1072
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 8: intensity these road environments, they're not all going to be

1073
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 8: you know, Bill Spafia showed up for that last game,

1074
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 8: but the Atlantic crowd, even if it was fifty percent

1075
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 8: of the building, they were into it. They were charged

1076
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 8: up understanding that this is one of the best teams

1077
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 8: in the NFL comeing in so you know, after they

1078
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Speaker 8: fumble on the first play of the game, we'll recover it.

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00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 8: The Bill sideline is going nuts, and then you're deflated

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00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 8: with the penalty, and then you're deflated when you get

1081
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 8: gashed on some runs, and you're deflated when the pendix

1082
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 8: is picking you apart with guys running wide open in

1083
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Speaker 8: zone coverage.

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 8: I don't know necessarily that this is a group that

1086
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 8: isn't coming out of the tunnel juiced up and ready

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00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 8: to roll. It's just the frustration bouts and you're sitting

1088
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 8: on the sideline trying to figure it out, and you're

1089
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 8: not having fun with the guys. You're sitting there thinking,

1090
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 8: I mean, how many times can we shoot ourselves in

1091
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 8: the foot here? And so you know, to me, I

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00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 8: put it, it's much just the frustration of this is

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Speaker 8: a team that just.

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01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 4: Keeps self inflicting.

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01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,959
Speaker 8: Wounds on themselves and it's hard to you know, get

1096
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 8: up in those moments.

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Speaker 3: If you had a priority list and you're the Bills

1098
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: coaching staff, and what is the priority list for this

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Speaker 3: bye week?

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Speaker 8: Figure out what we do well, double down on it,

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Speaker 8: see how we can then build off of that. You know, offensively,

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Speaker 8: it seems like, you know, working around the run game.

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Speaker 8: We saw it early in the game, and then we

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01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 8: saw definitely on that first drive of the second half,

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01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 8: doubling down on you know, James Cook and maybe getting

1106
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 8: those other two going as well in the run game,

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Speaker 8: and then building off of that throughout the game. And

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying it's got to be all heavy personnel,

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01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 8: build some run packages out of eleven personnel or twelve

1110
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 8: out of the shotgun with kin Kid split out, but

1111
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 8: using that run game to open up some of the

1112
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Speaker 8: guys and get them in better spots in the past game,

1113
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 8: and not rely on much of a traditional drop back

1114
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 8: pass game, especially while you guys, while you have guys

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Speaker 8: out of receiver or guys that you know, I'm not

1116
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 8: saying they're you know, it's common practice right now to

1117
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 8: say the bills receivers can't separate and you go back

1118
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 8: and cherry pick plays on film where we either had

1119
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 8: guys open and Josh left the pocket or was under

1120
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 8: duress and couldn't find those guys. But to get that

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01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 8: passing game going, it's likely, you know, double it down

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01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 8: on the run game, especially when teams are are lighter

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Speaker 8: and smaller like last week's matchup against the Falcons, and

1124
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 8: then defensively, you gotta figure out one who's gonna be healthy,

1125
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 8: what you're gonna get from Hoyd and Nogajobe coming off

1126
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 8: of suspension. You know, But right now, I don't see

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 8: guys making plays in zone defense. It's almost like they're

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01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 8: dropping to a spot and I have my assignment done

1129
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 8: and I'm in this spot. But but you're just not

1130
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 8: seeing the almost like Micah Hyde type plays where okay,

1131
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 8: he got a crossing route and maybe he's deep middle

1132
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 8: and he jumps it. You're just not seeing those things

1133
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 8: where there's just so much cushion. Sean McDermott, I believe

1134
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 8: said we went to more man defense in the second half,

1135
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 8: and I don't know those exact percentages, but we I

1136
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 8: mean you could see it visibly. It appeared we were

1137
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 8: running more man to man defense. And maybe that's the

1138
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 8: strength of this secondary. Maybe that's where we're going to

1139
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 8: be in a better position where we're not giving as

1140
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 8: much cushion, got to be able to tackle better. I

1141
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 8: saw it yesterday some of the long I mean, we

1142
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 8: give up the most yards after contact in the entire NFL,

1143
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 8: and it's not close. I mean just it's simply not close.

1144
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 8: The Chargers are like a full yard behind us in

1145
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 8: that regard. Now that's skewed on a couple huge ones.

1146
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 8: I get that, But we got to be able to

1147
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 8: tackle better. And so I think getting healthier gives you

1148
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 8: some extra bodies on defense and then just figuring out

1149
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 8: what the the identity of this defense is going to be.

1150
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 8: And if the guys on the back end aren't comfortable

1151
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 8: making plays in our traditional zone.

1152
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 4: Looks that we've had success with.

1153
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 8: In the past, maybe it's getting to more mandaban defense

1154
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 8: or different zone shells that allow us to jump those

1155
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 8: crossers that go right behind the linebacker level that we've

1156
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 8: seen just kill us over and over, or you know

1157
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 8: guy sitting you know, in between the corners linebackers where

1158
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 8: it's just too easy pitch and catch out there at times.

1159
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: Last one for me, Eric Carolina on the horizon, And

1160
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: I know it's a team still trying to find itself

1161
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: and establish their own identity under Dave Canalis, but he

1162
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: does know how to call an offense and sequence plays.

1163
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: He's good at that. And in their three wins this season,

1164
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: they have scored thirty twenty seven and thirty last week.

1165
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: Chuba Hubbard's supposed to come back as well, so they

1166
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 2: might have a one to two punch there with Rico Daubell,

1167
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: who's going on over two hundred doll purpose yards each

1168
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: of the last two games and Chewba Hubbard. And we

1169
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: know what has ailed this Bills defense. So I think

1170
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: some people might be being unfamiliar with Carolina, might think

1171
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: of them as it also ran. But they've got two

1172
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: straight wins. They play the Jets this week, there's a

1173
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: good chance they're gonna be facing a team on a

1174
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 2: three game winning streak and feeling pretty good about themselves.

1175
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, the Bills are gonna have to be ready to roll,

1177
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 8: and we saw it over these last couple of weeks.

1178
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: I don't care who the opponent is.

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01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 8: In this league, you've got to be ready to roll,

1180
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 8: and you got to go out and execute make plays

1181
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,959
Speaker 8: because every team's got talent. And you know, we're sitting

1182
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 8: here last week talking about give Drake May and Dick's credit,

1183
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 8: and this week, I'm sure throughout the week you guys

1184
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 8: have been saying give give London and Pendix and Bijon

1185
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 8: their credit. They've made plays on us. But at some point,

1186
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 8: we got to make those plays ourselves on both sides

1187
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 8: of the ball. We got to stop the penalties. The

1188
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 8: penalties combined with the turnovers, combined with the mistap, it's

1189
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 8: like everything adds up.

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Speaker 4: But the penalties have come at almost the most.

1191
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 8: Inopportune times, right before an interception against the Patriots where

1192
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 8: it backs you up and you know, the eighty one

1193
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 8: yard Bijon Robinson run comes after at Oliver so one

1194
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 8: of the two had a sack. So instead of second

1195
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 8: and long, now it's first and five. I mean, they've

1196
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 8: just crushed themselves with penalties, but now they got to

1197
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 8: be ready to roll against Carolina. You're going to go

1198
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 8: down there and there's gonna be a ton of Bills

1199
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 8: fans there like we always have in Charlotte, which almost

1200
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 8: could tick off the home team even more.

1201
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 4: It's a whole lot of fun having a Bill's.

1202
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 8: Mafia party in someone's stadium afterwards, but that home team's

1203
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 8: going to fight like hell to not let that happen.

1204
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 3: Good stuff, Eric, Thanks man, enjoy your bye weekend.

1205
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 4: Absolutely appreciate it. You guys too.

1206
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: All right. That's Eric Wood joining us as he does

1207
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: after every Bills game and it's brought to you by

1208
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: Campbell's Chunky Soup. Yeah, you see all the yards that

1209
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 2: Bijon ran up on this defense, and then you look

1210
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: at Rico Daudele the last two weeks, and granted he

1211
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: was not playing good defenses the last two weeks, but

1212
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: one of them is one of the same defenses. The

1213
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: Bills went up against Miami where he ran up over

1214
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: two hundred all purpose yards, and then last week against Dallas,

1215
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: who really are not nothing to home rite about on

1216
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 2: nothing to write home about on defense either, and he

1217
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: rolled up two hundred and six all purpose yards last week,

1218
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: and he still didn't win NFC Player of the Week

1219
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: because Bijeon got it. He had two hundred and thirty

1220
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: eight all purpose yards. So you have another guy to

1221
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 2: be almost as concerned about as you did this Monday night.

1222
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got your work cut out for you

1223
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 3: just as much to get it done. It'll be interesting

1224
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 3: to see them play this weekend. The Carolina Panthers, of

1225
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 3: course I'm talking about because they do play the Jets,

1226
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: and the Jets are desperate to win a game. They're

1227
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: in New York, they're on the road, and you're gonna

1228
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: learn some things uh, can the Jets stop Dowbtle Well,

1229
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 3: we'll see.

1230
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: They also have, you know, a big rookie wide receiver

1231
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: on the outside, Ted McMillan. Ted McMillan's a big dude,

1232
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: every bit as big as Drake London, and he runs

1233
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: better than Drake six four two nineteen, and he is

1234
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 2: already their number one option in the passing game after

1235
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: they made him a top ten draft selection this season.

1236
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna squeeze a phone call in here for someone

1237
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: who's been waiting patiently, and we go to Bob down

1238
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 2: in Florida. What's up, Bob? Bob, you're on You gotta

1239
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: stop listening to your radio, all right. I gotta put

1240
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: you on hold. Thanks anyway, Bob, we'll get back to

1241
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: Bob maybe after the break. We'll step aside, take a

1242
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: break here as we're asking you, what's your one bye

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Speaker 2: week want for the Bills? Eight h three oh five

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Speaker 2: fifty We're back to the phones next here on one

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Speaker 2: lots of highs and lows during a season seventeen games

1260
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: plus long playoff runs for many years takes its toll

1261
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 2: on the best of players. How does Steve see it

1262
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 2: right now? Suggestions or insights on how the team rises

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01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: up for someone that has been there, Here's.

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Speaker 3: The way I'm looking at it now. I'm this is

1265
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 3: the way it feels to me that the team is.

1266
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 3: When this team is healthy, this roster is healthy and

1267
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 3: got all its guys out there. They've got enough juice,

1268
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 3: enough talent, and enough the coaching staff. They've got everything

1269
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: in place to go to and win it all. They

1270
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 3: really can't, but they've been there so much. They've been

1271
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 3: knocking on the door for so long. They are waiting

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01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 3: for another chance to knock on the door. They're waiting

1273
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 3: for the playoffs to start. They're trying to get through

1274
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 3: this regular season healthy, find out who they are, win

1275
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 3: enough games, and all that. The difference is this, if

1276
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 3: this team puts its foot on the gas and gets

1277
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 3: healthy enough over this bye week to go and get

1278
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: the one seed, that's where That's where it begins. The

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01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 3: question is if they show up less than ready or casual,

1280
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 3: with a casual attitude like they did against the Saints,

1281
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 3: like they did against the Patriots, like they did against

1282
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons, the question is this, what's it gonna

1283
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 3: cost them at the end of the season when they

1284
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 3: get it, they are gonna get in the playoffs. I

1285
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 3: still I'm still a full believer in that. The question

1286
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 3: is this, if they get in the playoffs, what is

1287
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 3: dropping a game to the Atlanta Falcons is gonna cost you?

1288
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 3: What's dropping a game to the Patriots gonna cost you

1289
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 3: at the end? Is it gonna cost you the division?

1290
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 3: Are you gonna have to go on the road on

1291
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 3: the wild card weekend? Then on the road in the

1292
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 3: divisional round and then on the road in the AFC

1293
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 3: Championship round, Or can you get it together over this

1294
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 3: by we get healthy enough, stay healthy enough to win

1295
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 3: the games necessary to take a week off, get healthy

1296
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 3: again at the beginning of the playoffs, and then had

1297
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 3: everybody come through your house. That's the question. Still there's

1298
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 3: still a playoff team, and when they're healthy and loaded,

1299
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 3: they're almost impossible to beat, particularly in their own building,

1300
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: particularly in the building. They showed up flat against a

1301
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 3: good Patriots team and got beat by three points. That's

1302
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 3: how tough it is to come in here and win.

1303
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 3: They weren't even ready to play, and they turned it

1304
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 3: over three times. When they're that team and they turn

1305
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 3: it on and they don't turn it over, you nobody

1306
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 3: comes in here and beats them. That's why you gotta

1307
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 3: beat Carolina. You gotta beat Tampa Bay, you gotta beat

1308
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 3: Kansas City, you gotta beat Philly in this building, you

1309
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 3: gotta beat the Jets, the Dolphins, you gotta beat all

1310
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 3: these teams that are coming up. So you can get

1311
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 3: the home field advantage and get everybody to come through

1312
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 3: high Mark Stadium in January. If if you can do that,

1313
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 3: that may be too tough for even a good playoff

1314
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: team to come in here and get done. If you

1315
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 3: don't do that, I'm afraid it seems all too familiar

1316
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 3: to me. That's how I feel about it.

1317
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, we're gonna get right back to

1318
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: the phones. At eight o three five point fifty one

1319
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty. What's your one

1320
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: bye week want for the bills? We go to Carl

1321
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 2: into pew next. What's up, Carl?

1322
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 4: How you doing? Guys?

1323
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 3: Good? Good?

1324
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 10: Well, you know everybody's feeling the same offense. Defense. Uh,

1325
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 10: you can't get separation, can't this, can't that. But I

1326
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 10: think it all boils down to one thing, and allow you.

1327
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 10: I'm a McDermott guy from the beginning, I always will be.

1328
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 10: But these ball players, I don't think they've had a

1329
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 10: good ball game all year long. And we're still fourmed too,

1330
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 10: And I think the biggest problem, you know, is themselves. Penalty.

1331
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 10: That's the ball players. That's mental. Come on, I mean,

1332
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 10: you know you can blame the coaching and this, that

1333
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 10: and the other thing. Yeah, coaching has been an issue,

1334
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 10: and I don't think they really had these guys, like

1335
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 10: you said, juiced up and ready to rock. And if

1336
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 10: they don't get if they don't turn the table and

1337
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 10: get them going, it's gonna be a long season. That's

1338
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 10: all I got to say. And I hope they get

1339
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 10: them going and give them a kick where the sundown

1340
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 10: shine and get them going.

1341
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. You bring up a good point, Carl,

1342
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 3: And it made me think of something that was true

1343
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 3: back in my day, and I think it's still true.

1344
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 3: And I think fans get caught up in the wrong things.

1345
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 3: And this may come as a surprise to some people

1346
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 3: and particularly in the media. It's not Sean McDermott's job

1347
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 3: to get them fired up. If you have to have

1348
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 3: a head coach or any coach fire you up before

1349
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 3: a game, he's got the wrong players on his team.

1350
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 3: If you're not motivated to go out and play on

1351
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 3: a Sunday afternoon as a player, it's you. It's not

1352
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 3: the coach, it's you. If he's got guys on his

1353
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 3: football team that needs somebody to light a fire under

1354
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 3: them and come and rub their tummy or challenge their

1355
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 3: manhood or do something to them to get them ready

1356
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: to play on a Sunday afternoon, in him or any

1357
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,839
Speaker 3: other stadium. You're not ready to play in the NFL period.

1358
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 3: If you're not fired up to play NFL football, it's

1359
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 3: not a coach's job to fire you up. You're a

1360
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 3: professional athlete. Show it. That's on you. And it's not

1361
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott, it's not Brandon Bean. It's the player leadership.

1362
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 3: It's your own motor that you got to depend on.

1363
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 3: If somebody else has got to come in every week

1364
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 3: and get you ready to play, mentally, you're a joke.

1365
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 3: You're a joke. If they've got players on this team

1366
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 3: that can't get ready to play unless some coach gives

1367
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 3: them some thing to grab onto, they're not worthy of

1368
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 3: the spot they've got on the roster. Get ready to play, don't.

1369
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 3: And I get all the fans they are McDermott say no,

1370
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 3: just shut up about that. Get into the twenty first century.

1371
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 3: That's nineteen fifties football. That's not the nineties. That's not

1372
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 3: the two thousands, that's not the eighties. Players don't look

1373
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 3: to coaches, and fans shouldn't look to coaches. To have

1374
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 3: a head coach or any coach step in and get

1375
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 3: his team fired up. That's a joke. That's a joke.

1376
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 3: You're a professional football player, you've played football since you

1377
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 3: were ten years old, maybe even before that.

1378
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: And you're getting paid an off of lite and you're getting.

1379
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: Paid millions to do it. Show up, don't get don't

1380
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 3: don't give the players a pass because they showed up flat.

1381
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 3: That's on them, one hundred percent, one thousand percent.

1382
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: It's on them, Which is why I said earlier in

1383
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: the show that the player driven leadership is what has

1384
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: to get on the ball here to demand more of

1385
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 2: their teammates, particularly at the beginning of games, because the

1386
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: last three weeks they have not matched the intensity of

1387
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 2: their opponents and it's put them in early holes on

1388
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: the scoreboard. And that's to Steve's point, on the players

1389
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 2: to manufacture that and bring it to the field every

1390
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: single week. To Jennifer in Batavian X, what's.

1391
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 11: Up Jennifer both said, Guys, I have to say I

1392
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 11: love the intensity. That's exactly the way it should be.

1393
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 11: It's just basically kind of piggy back off of on

1394
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 11: that concept there, and without getting too wordy, I see

1395
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 11: Kenyan Coleman as being that type of player. I don't

1396
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 11: see a whole lot of highlighting on his true's abilities

1397
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 11: and when he gets air of that boy, he takes

1398
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 11: it right down to the end zone. I think that

1399
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 11: he has the capacity to be able to play that.

1400
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 11: I just think that sometimes those interceptions and that's where

1401
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 11: it hits, the ball rolls right out of his hands.

1402
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 11: It just seems like to me, there should be somebody

1403
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 11: to sort of guard him. I see that the side

1404
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 11: zones are protected. There's no guarding to make sure he

1405
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 11: can get that before a opponent somehow wipes that ball

1406
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 11: right out of his hands. And it's every single time

1407
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 11: when it comes to Keyon Coleman, when it comes to

1408
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 11: the safety called Bishop. We see him increasing the last

1409
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 11: three games. We know the potentials there. We're seeing a

1410
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 11: lot of physical ability there. I mean with a roll

1411
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 11: and a tumble, with a punch of a kick on

1412
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 11: sometimes he gets it pretty bad player coming in doing

1413
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 11: what he do. The Eagles eye, it just seems like

1414
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 11: to me, there's not enough coverage at that in the

1415
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 11: red zone there, like there's just not enough watching the

1416
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 11: the I guess peripheral where it just seems like there

1417
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 11: should be something else going on down that center field.

1418
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 11: It's always it's always, uh a cook that's coming up

1419
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 11: through with the ball, driving that ball under the center

1420
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 11: under a power pile. Every single time, it's the same

1421
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 11: old dagon play. Like what is being done as far

1422
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 11: as a plan to prevent some of these interceptions the

1423
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 11: situation where the fumble, it's one thing, you know, we've

1424
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 11: seen some of them. I'm not going to name the

1425
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 11: names because I like him. I really don't want to

1426
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 11: put anybody on the raidar for it. But we've seen

1427
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 11: that ball fly out of their hands at the time

1428
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 11: the catch all should have happened. It bounced off the

1429
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 11: palm and it's all right down. It just seems like,

1430
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 11: why is the grip not happening? What kind of slip

1431
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 11: grips do we need to put on those gloves and

1432
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 11: make sure that ball gets caught. Yeah, there are just

1433
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 11: too many errors in that when they could have, would have,

1434
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 11: should have, could have happened, and it didn't. Something that

1435
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 11: happened down that center field where somebody has to be

1436
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 11: a point. I don't know what players. I can't I'm

1437
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 11: not going to do names.

1438
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 2: We get it, Jennifer, get I get where you're coming from.

1439
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 2: Thanks for the call. Like Eric was telling us earlier,

1440
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: this hour, like a lot of the problems have been

1441
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 2: self inflicted. Josh has two interceptions, you know, in the

1442
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: last game because he's forcing the ball because nothing's happening

1443
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: on offense and he's trying to make something happen, and

1444
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 2: so he's pressing to try to give the offense a spark,

1445
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 2: and he puts a ball in a dangerous area where

1446
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: he usually doesn't and it results in an I. So,

1447
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 2: you know, fumbles. Ball security really has not been an

1448
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: issue for this football team on the whole. And then

1449
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 2: as for Keon Coleman, a lot of his opportunities are

1450
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: in contested catch situations and they call them fifty to

1451
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 2: fifty balls for a reason because he's probably only got

1452
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: a fifty percent chance of coming down with it. And

1453
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 2: I think that they are going to take a long,

1454
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 2: hard look as to how to put him in a

1455
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: position where it's not contested and where he can take

1456
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: advantage of his size. I mean, Drake London is almost

1457
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: the same exact size. He is not fast, he is

1458
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 2: a possession receiver. They line him up in the slot

1459
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 2: to create a physical mismatch, which we witnessed on Monday night.

1460
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: Taron Johnson, I love him, but he's five eleven one

1461
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 2: nine two on a six to four receiver with thirty

1462
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 2: six inch arms. He's just gonna box tearing out even

1463
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 2: if he's on his hip and just catch. That's how

1464
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: we caught the touchdown. Maybe putting Coleman inside could reap

1465
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 2: similar rewards for the Bills and unlock Coleman going forward.

1466
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 2: We'll see if they explore that here in the bye week.

1467
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 3: I agree with what Brownie's saying. So, yeah, thanks for

1468
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 3: the call.

1469
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, where are we going here? We gotta go to

1470
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: Bob in Florida. What's up? Bob?

1471
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call, your question on

1472
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 12: what's one thing? And I would like you kind of

1473
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 12: answered my question because I was thinking Gaye Davis. I

1474
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 12: don't know when he'll be back, but he was a

1475
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 12: very good compliment to Diggs. I think he could be

1476
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 12: a good compliment to what we have in the running

1477
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 12: backs and the tight ends, and he is always doing

1478
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 12: something downfield. Hopefully he comes back soon. He is to me,

1479
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 12: going to be such a major upgrade over Shavers. And

1480
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 12: it's a shame that we're talking about like the fifth

1481
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 12: receiver on the team. But I think when Davis comes back.

1482
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 12: He's gonna jump Samuel and maybe even Isaiah or I

1483
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 12: forget his name, number eighteen. Yeah, allies, I'm sorry. Yeah,

1484
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 12: it's sad. I love the signings at the beginning. How

1485
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 12: it's working at I'm not sure. I'm not mad, I'm

1486
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 12: not down. We did this last year Foreign two we

1487
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 12: lost to in a row and it was the same thing.

1488
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 12: Offense didn't do well. Neither do the defense. But I

1489
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,839
Speaker 12: think Kate Davis coming in is going to help the offense.

1490
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 12: I think it's going to make a big difference on

1491
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:35,560
Speaker 12: the outside defensively. Michael Hoyt, I don't know how to

1492
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 12: say his name. He's gonna be something that you're gonna

1493
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 12: want to see. And one more thing, please, Kean Coleman.

1494
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 12: His game is you know, you can't just stand him

1495
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 12: in one spot and expect him to take off on someone.

1496
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 12: He needs to be moved, you know, sidelined the sideline

1497
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 12: almost like a slot. Like people are saying. The other

1498
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Speaker 12: thing though, is on those fifty to fifties he's getting

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Speaker 12: monked a lot and he needs to fight and demonstrate

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Speaker 12: to the like, hey this is happening.

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Speaker 3: He's a little bit Yeah, yes.

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Speaker 12: I think that would happen. Thanks guys, you're doing a

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Speaker 12: great jobs.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. What do you, let's say about Gabe

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01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 2: Davis Steve.

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01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 3: Well, you can make a case that he might be

1507
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 3: a better fit than Shavers. Shavers couldn't get on the

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 3: roster when Gabe was here the first time. If Gabe's

1509
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 3: the same player, I would expect that to be the hierarchy. Again.

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01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 2: He's a he's a valuable asset and blocking in the

1511
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: run game. We know that, we've seen that. But he

1512
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: doesn't catch the ball well enough. No, or hasn't a

1513
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 2: fifty catch rate player for his career.

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01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 3: Certainly, Josh trusts him and knows him. But you know,

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01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 3: that's what you're trying to That was what you were

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01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 3: trying to get when you signed Elijah Moore and Joshua Palmer.

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01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 3: Guys who caught the ball better, uh, had a higher

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01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 3: catch radius, had had a higher catch rate, and who

1519
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 3: are better separators. Certainly, Gabe had a you know, a

1520
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 3: handful of really good games here in Buffalo in the

1521
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 3: first three or four years of his career, but they

1522
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 3: let him walk, and uh, they did it for a

1523
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 3: reason because they felt like there were better options out there.

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01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman, Uh, you're right, I'm I mean when he

1525
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 3: gets up at the top, he is. It is a

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01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 3: hand fight there and it is very physical at the top.

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01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 3: My advice to Keon would be not so much to

1528
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 3: embellish what's going on, but to give it back if

1529
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 3: the guy's getting physical with you. And that's the thing

1530
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 3: that most people don't realize that a wide receiver can

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01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 3: be just as physical with the defensive back as the

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01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 3: defensive back can be physical with a wide out. Give

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01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 3: it back to him, you know. You know, if you're

1534
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 3: gonna get the top of the route and he's grabbing you,

1535
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 3: hammer his hammer his arm off you, hammer it and

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01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 3: make him pay for it. You know, You've got to

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01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 3: be as physical with the dB as the DB's being

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01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 3: with the wide out. So that'd be my first a

1539
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 3: piece of advice to him. But I'm with you, Keon

1540
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 3: has too many physical gifts not to ignore, and you

1541
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 3: need to exploit him. And it's the coaching staff's job

1542
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 3: to find out what he can do. If you know

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01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 3: what he can do, it's got to be more than

1544
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty balls. That's all there is to it.

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01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 3: If that's all he's good at that's not enough. It

1546
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 3: is not enough blocking in the run game. Okay, that's

1547
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 3: an extra thing. That's not enough either. He's got to

1548
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 3: have something to give you in the passing game other

1549
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 3: than fifty to fifty balls and fades. We've seen him

1550
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 3: catch a couple of hard slants, like out of a

1551
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 3: blitz pickup where he comes right across and Josh takes

1552
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 3: the snap and zings it to him. That's been good.

1553
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 3: So you've got to expand on some things. You've got

1554
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 3: to give the guy a chance to catch the ball

1555
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 3: without having to go up for it over the top

1556
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 3: of people. Find a way to get him to do that.

1557
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 3: And he caught one ball. He long catch the other

1558
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 3: night was seven yards or something like that on a

1559
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 3: quick little slant and he turned it up the field.

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01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 3: You got to give him more opportunities. I will say

1561
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 3: this though, if your quarterback, it's hard to cut it

1562
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 3: loose when your guy is standing in a crowd, even

1563
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 3: if the crowd is only two guys. You need. A

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01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 3: quarterback has to feel like he's got a chance where

1565
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 3: he really wants to rip it. If the quarterback's going

1566
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 3: down he's in trouble, yeah, he'll throw it up for

1567
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 3: grabs on a fourth down or something like that. But

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01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 3: it's hard to find a receiver when you feel like

1569
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 3: you're always throwing it into a crowd. Quarterbacks don't like that.

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01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 3: So that's one thing to think about as well.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here. When we come back, we'll

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01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 2: try to squeeze in a phone call or two on

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Speaker 2: the final segment on a Wednesday edition and One Bill's

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01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: Live Next, Heating Up and Cooling Down is presented by

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01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: Team Mark Hvack and Plumbing, the official residential h fact

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01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:47,839
Speaker 2: partner of the Buffalo Bills. Heating Up one Dion Walker

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01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: the big Daddy, with four of his five tackles in

1578
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: the game going for loss. And while he is not perfect,

1579
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, he's a rookie. He's still learning on the job.

1580
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: He is making more and more of an impact with

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01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: each passing week. Steve, he is a load up there.

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01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's he's making more plays and he's having

1583
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 3: fewer plays where he does the wrong thing, you know,

1584
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 3: low lights. That's what they wanted from him. I mean,

1585
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 3: he is, he's big dude, man, and he has shown up.

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01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 3: I thought there's no doubt as bad as the game

1587
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 3: was everywhere. Atlanta was his best game. He had four

1588
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 3: tackles for loss in that game. He was he was

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01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 3: a load up from No.

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01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 2: One. The last one that our msgvs just watched, he

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01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 2: was getting held on the play and still made the

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01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: tackle for loss.

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01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is. He could be a real difference maker.

1594
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: Especially in the of Daikwon Jones has got the camp injury.

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01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: He needed it. Four tackles for loss is huge for

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01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 3: a defensive four of.

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01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: His five tackles in the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I know this. You can't do you

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01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 3: can't do that every single play because you know you've

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01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,759
Speaker 3: got to give your You're not playing in a vacuum

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01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 3: again to air.

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01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: He's gonna draw more double teams.

1603
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 3: But that is a big statement and that that's a

1604
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 3: huge help for this defensive front that needs some.

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01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: Actually cooling down Buffalo's scoring. This was a team after

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01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 2: three weeks that was averaging over thirty points per game.

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01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,839
Speaker 3: In their last two outings, scored thirty four combined.

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01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 2: Yeah so yeah, not good twenty and then fourteen this

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01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 2: past week. So scoring is cooling down right now. They're

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01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: gonna have to get back to being the offensive juggernaut

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01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: that they are. Protection a major problem, and you'll wonder

1612
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 2: if Atlanta has provided somewhat of a blueprint here going

1613
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: forward for future opponent. Now, you got to have the

1614
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 2: horses that can rush the passer. That's part one. But

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01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: if you think you do, it'll be interesting to see

1616
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: who copycats the Falcons with this aggressive blitz approach.

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01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they picked their spots and they also disguise it

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01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 3: extremely well too. Even at the end of the game.

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01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know they Josh really knew

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01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 3: how much man and how much zone they were playing

1621
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 3: at the end of a jet go back and really

1622
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 3: decipher it. I think they really struggled with the identification

1623
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 3: of the defense, and you know, that's it's one of

1624
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 3: the things that's really hard to play good offense when

1625
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 3: you don't know exactly what you're facing. And uh, I

1626
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 3: think that the Falcons really deserves some credit for what

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01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:22,799
Speaker 3: they did to the Bills.

1628
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: So that's heating up and cooling down presented by Team

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01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,879
Speaker 2: Mark h Vac and Plumbing.

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01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 3: Josh is good pre snap. He's really good pre snap,

1631
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 3: and he got a little crossed up. He has looks

1632
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 3: and so they weren't ready for Kudos of the Falcons

1633
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 3: for getting it done. And and uh, Jeff Olbrick, the

1634
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 3: guy who is their defensive coordinator. He's had some experience

1635
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 3: with Josh that we talked about. He was the Jets

1636
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 3: coordinator for three or four years under Salad and then

1637
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 3: he became the interim head coach. So he's got some

1638
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 3: chops and also some experience facing Josh and knowing, you know,

1639
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 3: what he could do. Plus coming down to Atlanta where

1640
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 3: he does have some elite athletes, we got a chance,

1641
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 3: you know. That's when that's what they did.

1642
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 2: A couple of final thoughts on the tweets sheet for

1643
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 2: your Bills bye week. Want just get as healthy as possible.

1644
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 2: Bills aren't good enough to win without most of their starters.

1645
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 2: That's her Backbone says, I just want Hairston to be ready.

1646
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: This team desperately needs him to be healthy and be

1647
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 2: a good player. Speed would be helpful in the secondary

1648
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 2: right now. And Jacob says, get a receiver. So those

1649
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 2: are just some of your thoughts for the bye week.

1650
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: We'll see what it looks like next week. Steve and

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01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 2: I are out tomorrow and Friday, as we are enjoying

1652
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of an extended bye week as well,

1653
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 2: we will be back on Monday with a three hour

1654
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 2: show from you, beginning at noon. Enjoy the weekend, everybody,

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01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.