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Speaker 2: Listener discretion Is It Fine?

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Speaker 3: Just days after Lynette From's failed attempt to assassinate President

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Speaker 3: Gerald Ford in Sacramento, California, Barbara From, a reporter from

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Speaker 3: the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, conducts a phone interview with Lynette's

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Speaker 3: roommate Sandra Good. The interview is contentious from the start.

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Speaker 4: Ms.

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Speaker 2: Good, Have you had any contact with Lynette From since

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Speaker 2: her arrest?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: Have you been able to see her?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: Have you been able to communicate with her?

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 3: From tries to ask Sandra about Lynette and her arrest.

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Speaker 3: Sandra ignores the questions, instead pushing the interview towards the

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Speaker 3: subject she wants to talk about, the plate of the environment.

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Speaker 6: We have been looking at the state of this country

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Speaker 6: and of the world, and it's a myths. It's a

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Speaker 6: big myths, and it needs cleaning up. People are going

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Speaker 6: to survive. Change is necessary. There are many, many people,

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Speaker 6: thousands of people, children included, who are tired of the

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Speaker 6: destruction of the environment, the wildlife, the rivers, the oceans,

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Speaker 6: miss good cutting down of trees and could we.

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Speaker 2: Talk about that in a minute.

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Speaker 3: From tries to keep Sandra focused on Lynnette's assassination attempt,

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Speaker 3: but Sandra keeps bringing it back to the degradation of

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Speaker 3: the environment and the violent action. She says it will

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Speaker 3: provoke many people.

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Speaker 6: All over the world are doing to be assassinated. This

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Speaker 6: is just the beginning. This is just the beginning of many,

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Speaker 6: many assassinations that are about to take place.

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Speaker 2: Ms. Good, How come you're talking about trees that you

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Speaker 2: care about and yet you don't mind killing men.

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Speaker 6: Men that kill life, that kill harp fields, that kill trees,

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Speaker 6: that poison oceans and rivers and air are killing all

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Speaker 6: of us because we need these things to live.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that what Lynette from did is going

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Speaker 2: to somehow dramatize your case?

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Speaker 6: Woman?

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you think it was worthwhile?

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Speaker 6: Mature world? Woman? Start looking at the world you're leaving

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Speaker 6: for your kids and quit putting sensational news stories and

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Speaker 6: what you look like and your social position over life.

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Speaker 3: The interview continues to falter. From tries to get things

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Speaker 3: back on track. She asks Sandra about Charles Manson, who

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Speaker 3: is in prison for what will be the rest of

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Speaker 3: his life.

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Speaker 2: You have been quoted as saying that his job is

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Speaker 2: to straighten out the world.

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Speaker 6: His job. It's yours job, woman, it's your job. He's

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Speaker 6: been left out of this world's madness. You better pray

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Speaker 6: he'll help you fix yourselves up. You better pray. I

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Speaker 6: don't think he wants to. It's your job, woman, to

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Speaker 6: start making gardens rather than pushing your husbands to destroy things.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking to the executives, the killers of wildlife and

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Speaker 6: of the earth. You stop. There's a wave of assassins

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Speaker 6: called the International People's Court of Retribution, and they're watching you,

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Speaker 6: Miss Good.

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Speaker 2: Was the attack on President Ford justified, then.

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Speaker 6: Yes, any attack on any lie is justified. Any attack

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Speaker 2: Are you disappointed that President Ford wasn't killed.

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Speaker 6: Nope, I'm not disappointed. There'll be many, many, many killings.

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Speaker 3: It continues like this for a couple of minutes, and

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Speaker 6: Talk about killing, I'm saying there'll be a wave of

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Speaker 2: Trees, killing mis good.

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Speaker 6: To the children and the people.

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Speaker 7: Miss Good for them, don't interrupt me, miss Good. I'm

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Speaker 7: Toby Ball and I'm Mary Catherine Garrison, and this is

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Speaker 7: rip current.

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Speaker 8: I find it absolutely incredible and inexcusable that someone of Lymb's,

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Speaker 8: Squeaky From's past history, and her reputation would be permitted

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Speaker 7: Four, episode four Nice Girls.

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Speaker 3: Lynette From had fallen out of the public eye after

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Speaker 3: Charles Manson's imprisonment in nineteen seventy, but people would have

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Speaker 3: read the headlines on September sixth, nineteen seventy five and

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Speaker 3: remembered her, probably as Squeaky From, perhaps the most outspoken

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Speaker 3: member of the Manson family. As we have mentioned, her

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Speaker 3: revolve around Charles Manson. In the months leading up to

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Speaker 3: September nineteen seventy five, Lynette, Sandra, and a third Manson

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Speaker 3: They were poor Lynette received food stamps much of her

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Speaker 9: It was well known that this group of Manson and

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Speaker 9: So they were here is his support group, I guess

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Speaker 3: Their arrival in town prompted Sacramento TV station KCRA to

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Speaker 3: she described her experience on air. KCRA does not allow

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Speaker 3: the use of footage of their reporters, so we have

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Speaker 3: recreated some of her report using an actor. The report

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Speaker 3: has been slightly edited for length.

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Speaker 10: We have an opportunity to meet Lynnette from and her

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Speaker 10: roommate Sandra Good and their apartment in downtown Sacramento. They

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Speaker 10: said they had moved here to be closer to Charles Manson,

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Speaker 10: who was then at FOLSOM, even though they couldn't communicate

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Speaker 10: with him. Somehow there was some kind of a mystical

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Speaker 10: connection there if they could be closer to him just

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Speaker 10: in this that it would be better for Charlie, and

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Speaker 10: they wanted to be closer to the center of political

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Speaker 10: Brown and Attorney General Evelyn Younger, and they had ideas

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Speaker 10: on how the state.

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Speaker 1: Should be run.

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Speaker 3: Their apartment at seventeen twenty five p Street was modest.

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Speaker 10: I think they said they paid about eighty five dollars

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Speaker 10: very plain furnishings. They did have a television set and

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Speaker 10: they did have a stereo, which interested me. They also

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Speaker 10: had a picture of Charles Manson hung almost like an image,

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Speaker 10: like an idol, a religious thing, hung over their window.

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Speaker 3: They later took down Manson's picture at their landlord's request.

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Speaker 10: They had a lot of grains and herbs and teas around.

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Speaker 10: They were very interested in natural foods and in cultivating them.

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Speaker 10: They gathered a lot of things themselves, but actually it

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Speaker 10: was a very plain space. I kept trying to get

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Speaker 10: back to this idea of where did your money come from?

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Speaker 10: And they kept saying that were outside of the money system,

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Speaker 10: and I kept saying, well, who pays your rent? And

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Speaker 10: the arguments would go round and round, and finally they

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Speaker 10: somehow provided. Things were provided. They didn't really have to

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Speaker 3: Providence's care apparently included encouraging them to panhandle in a

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Speaker 3: work there. The Sacramento Bee ran an article the day

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Speaker 3: following the assassination attempt about Lynette, Sandra, and Heather titled

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Speaker 3: nice Girls neighbors tell impressions of Manson followers. The title

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Speaker 3: is decidedly mixed. A young woman named Chris Doherty said

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Speaker 3: that she'd heard Lynette say that she had planned something

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Speaker 3: next couple of weeks. Because of this, Doherty had obtained

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Speaker 3: a gun for self protection. She described Lynette as nice,

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Speaker 3: Another neighbor named Mona Lynch was aware of their past

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Speaker 3: They sunbathed in bikinis and occasionally brought her vegetables. She

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Speaker 3: in the women's lives. A television reporter interviewed Jesse Faine,

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Speaker 3: Lynette's landlord, why not what kind.

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Speaker 5: Of a girl was she? She was a gentle, quiet,

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Speaker 3: He recalled a meeting with other tenants where they discussed

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Speaker 5: The meeting was a round the table discussion type of

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Speaker 5: The general outcome was that most of them felt that

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Speaker 5: since the girls had never bothered them, or had never

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Speaker 3: Others, though, experienced less friendly interactions with the women. Charlene Jacobs,

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Speaker 3: Murphy described being surprised by how politically oriented the women were.

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Speaker 3: She said that she saw underground literature in the apartment

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Speaker 3: critiquing the government and the course of the country. Again,

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Speaker 10: A lot of conspiracy theories, and they would bring out

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Speaker 10: pamphlets from time to time to show me but no weapons.

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Speaker 10: Their main idea in life is to get Charles Manson

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Speaker 10: out of jail. Their whole life revolved around Charlie, and

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Speaker 10: she actually thinks that Charlie could be president of this

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Speaker 3: In fact, they were actively trying to spread messages through

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Speaker 2: Oh sure.

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Speaker 11: She and Sandra Good, her fellow Manson family pal would

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Speaker 11: And so it was a small office and we all

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Speaker 11: know them. I'm Bill Mucy. I'm a former journalist and

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Speaker 11: I was with the United Press International in Sacramento when

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Speaker 11: Gerald Ford came to visit and had a big surprise.

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Speaker 11: You know, I was in my twenties. They're very attractive

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Speaker 11: and very self possessed and clearly didn't really care if

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Speaker 11: a lot of people didn't like them. I mean, they

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Speaker 11: just had their agenda and they were going to follow

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Speaker 11: middle of the forehead, which was kind of disconcerting. But

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Speaker 11: they were always polite, nice and dropped in to say hi.

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Speaker 11: I think they had kind of a crush on one

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Speaker 3: Associated Press reporter Rodney Angove related a story that on

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Speaker 3: July third, nineteen seventy five, Lynette had shown up at

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Speaker 3: handwritten note that she wanted published. It was another pro

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Speaker 3: Manson screed, calling for his release from prison. If Manson

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Speaker 7: In nineteen seventy five, Lynette from and Sandra Good, the

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Speaker 7: The International People's Court of Retribution never actually existed, neither

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Speaker 4: During the trial, she and Manson and several other members

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Speaker 7: These and other criticisms provoked a defensive response from Secret

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Speaker 14: Our officers from time to time knowing that these people

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Speaker 9: There's something about the state that tolerates, if not encourages,

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Speaker 15: Well, mister Boris is the gentleman from whom the defendant

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Speaker 7: While Lynette would dispute the characterization in court, Borow was

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Speaker 7: Here's Borough's landlord again.

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Speaker 7: his availability to the public in his role as president.

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Speaker 4: He let me add with great affiss.

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Speaker 13: This answer, under no circumstances you will prevent me or

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Speaker 6: As I travel from one state to another and from one.

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Speaker 6: The American people, and I'm going.

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Speaker 14: To continue to have that personal, come active relationship with

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Speaker 5: I think it's vital.

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Speaker 7: This commitment would be tested again seventeen days later, but

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Speaker 7: before then there would be another incident, this time in

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Speaker 4: Now if you look at this white album. It's a

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Speaker 4: Beatles album. There are many other songs. One of them

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Speaker 4: is called Sexy Sadie Sadiepp. She thought that the Beatles

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Speaker 4: Piggies