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Speaker 1: for a fat Hall of Famer, four time Super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl MVP, Terry Bradshaw. Who is the better quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Terry Bradshaw.

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Speaker 2: Lie, I'm of course, whereas I like to call him

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Speaker 2: Uncle Terry. I continue, I'm Terry Bradshaw. You're naked in

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Speaker 1: Today we're looking at the nineteen seventy two AFC Divisional

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Speaker 1: Round Raiders versus the Steelers, the immaculate Reception game.

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Speaker 2: It's the greatest player in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Fired the ball, I hit the ground. I hear the

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Speaker 2: roar of the crowd. I got a couple of Raiders

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Speaker 2: perfect pants. Yeah, you cut it out of the air

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Speaker 2: and Renferen shuting me Jack.

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Speaker 1: Don't be intimidated, Uncle Terry.

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Speaker 2: That's what I love, Uncle Terry. Shut Up.

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Speaker 1: Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Games with Names, presented by When Bett. On today's episode,

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Speaker 1: we are talking possibly one of the most famous plays

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Speaker 1: of all time, The Immaculate Reception Steelers versus the Raiders

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Speaker 1: with Uncle Terry Terry Bradshaw, one of the most infamous

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Speaker 1: plays in NFL history. So many theories. Did it happen?

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Speaker 1: Did it touch the ground? Was it called on the rules?

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Speaker 1: All that, We get into it with Terry or as

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Speaker 1: I like to call him, Uncle Terry. We also get

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Speaker 1: into Terry getting nicked. Is that how he said?

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Speaker 2: It's nicked? Nicked and nicked?

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Speaker 1: With Matthew McConaughey, wild wild story, wild story. I mean

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Speaker 2: He's got Matthew McConaughey singing records.

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Speaker 3: John Madden, John Madden, who knew He's got a good

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Speaker 1: December twenty third, nineteen seventy two, three Rivers Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, app one with twenty two seconds left, fourth

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Speaker 2: down from our own forty boy, do we need a miracle?

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Speaker 2: and the rist is infl history. This is the immaculate reception,

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Speaker 1: We have a very special guest. You do for a fact,

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Speaker 1: we have Terry Bradshaw, or as I like to call

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Speaker 1: Number one overall pick from Louisiana Tack. There you go,

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Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech Fog with pride. Number one pick, everybody's number

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Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw, this is a running football team. Nineteen seventy

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Speaker 2: Done your work, and it's on the screen.

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Speaker 1: Teammate at Fox, welcome to games with names, Uncle Terrys, Bob.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to turn this down. When you asked me

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Speaker 1: You know what and how Uncle Terry just said that

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Speaker 2: I've just seen Julio Jones make an amazing catch four

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Speaker 1: You're making me blush. You're making me warm in a side.

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Speaker 2: Jack All. I gotta take this thing off.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I was Michael Strahan before Michael straighthand is Terry

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Speaker 1: Now you've been you've been awesome. And uh, I appreciate you, man,

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Speaker 2: And can you say that on your podcast? You can

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Speaker 2: say rookie, No, not rookie.

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Speaker 1: Oh you can swear, yeah, we can say ship can fuck,

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Speaker 2: Can we pray? Right now? I'm Jewish?

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Speaker 1: Today, we're looking at the nineteen seventy two AFC Divisional

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Speaker 2: It's the first. It's their first playoff game of any anything.

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Speaker 2: They're the physical and you know, and that was always

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh in this game and it was bad. It's bad weather,

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Speaker 2: I played against these guys my rookie year, and George

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Speaker 2: they's just you know, there is you know, they got

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Speaker 2: the game has changed. In seventy two. They put one

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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, this is a big, big, big gamey game.

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Speaker 2: not gonna like you. They're just flat not gonna like you.

434
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: And the camera will the camera believe it or not.

435
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 2: And I told my wife this, that camera caps who

436
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: you are. You don't realize the three red four red

437
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: lights here, but that camera will tell America. You're not

438
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: a nice guy, you're a phony. So you best be real.

439
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: So you talk to the people and I think a

440
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: lot of times people that don't know television or football shows,

441
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: and there god knows hundreds of them. Now with all

442
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: the so where is the fresh information come from? It

443
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: comes from us giving our perspective on something and not

444
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: just absolutely filling it with stats. Yeah, stats or I

445
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: hate stats. Now, they do play a role, nugget, you know,

446
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: they do play a role. But I've tried every year,

447
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: I think more and more to not talk about anything

448
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: that everybody knows talking about. And it's almost impossible to do.

449
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: But at the age of seventy five, I can pretty

450
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: much go wherever I want to go now and they'll,

451
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: like I always says, they'll go, what did he say?

452
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: What did that mean? I don't know? But shit's funny, wasn't.

453
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: Now now that you said that? Red light? When those

454
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: lights are on? Oh yeah, it shows you who you're

455
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: gonna be. What do you think about?

456
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: You? Remember your camera? You got a camera over there?

457
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this one? You know where your camera is.

458
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: I've been doing television forty three years, and they're going

459
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: because I'm talking here and I'm supposed to be here.

460
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: I had a thing like that this year my first show.

461
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the camera. I was looking at you know,

462
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: you have your camera and I'm looking at the wrong

463
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: I was like, where's my camera? I saitt it on

464
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: the air.

465
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: Actually it's fun. Well, you know what, America loves that stuff,

466
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: even at my age, and I say, oh, is that

467
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: my camera there? I know what was over here and

468
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 2: that it's still live, and people back home are going,

469
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: that's some funny shit.

470
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: Now, Oh, Terry, Went's America gonna think of Tom Brady

471
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: when he gets up in there.

472
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if Tom Brady gonna be Tom Brady.

473
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: Is he gonna be somebody else? I don't know Tom Brady.

474
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: Well Tom, will Tom called the game? Or I guess

475
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: he's doing games right? Doing games? Doing games? Will he

476
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 2: certainly got the ability, but will he be able to

477
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: break it down? Will he understand how to.

478
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: He's IQ's there? It's more of the EQ that we're

479
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: talking about, like is he going to be able to relate?

480
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,239
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm interested, you know, because the guys like

481
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: it was it was hard for me to come on

482
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 1: and when you watch football. Whenever I'm watching football, I'm

483
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: looking at the negative things. Really, yeah, I'm saying, all right, well,

484
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: tackle got beat on that.

485
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: Now, I do know that when we're watching football, you're

486
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: always critical of the wide receivers. I do know that.

487
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: Get picked up on that. Yeah, I mean, well, like

488
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: you not get it. That's what you know.

489
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: But that's what we were taught or no, that's what

490
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: we went through for me twelve years. I got told

491
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: the wrongs and why the play didn't work if it

492
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: was If the play worked, that was expected. Right, So

493
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: now you have to like transform your and now and

494
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: not be the pessimistic type guy when you're on the

495
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: camera talking like, oh that's wrong.

496
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: That's a mistake. If you're pessimistic, then that's a mistake.

497
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: I tickle it. I'm talking, don't interrupt, make don't ever.

498
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: Being negative is not good because then people don't like

499
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: you because they are always expecting negative. I mean, you

500
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: look at it. I'm gonna say, wide receiver. You know

501
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: the game. I know defense more than I know offense

502
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: because as a quarterback back in the seventies, we studied defense.

503
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: We read coverages. We weren't we weren't one two three,

504
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: one two three, you know, we weren't progressions. We were readers.

505
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: And so I was taught defense. I hardly ever had

506
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: a man going motion. Ever, I'm very seldom have ever

507
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: had single back set. Always two tight end, right tight end,

508
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: the left wide. Receivers never flop sides. That's they on

509
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 2: the same sides. We all read coverages together. We all

510
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: read blitz together. I saw blitz, they saw blitz. We

511
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: whether the route was inside or outside the predicated bump

512
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: and runner off coverage. Where the route was going on blitz,

513
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: I saw it. He saw it. If he messed up interception,

514
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: if I messed up interceptions. So we had to read

515
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: it the same way. That's how I was taught, Togain.

516
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: I know very little about multiple offenses like you do.

517
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: But the camera. If you're a negative all the time,

518
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 2: that's not good.

519
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying I'm negative as you were. I'm

520
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: just saying you said you were negative.

521
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: It's the code, not say it was negative. I think

522
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: you're being kind of negative right now to very negative.

523
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 2: You're very honestly didn't know you were so defensive.

524
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: It's not that face.

525
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: I'm I can tell because you got a vein in

526
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: your foreheaded right now it is popped out. That's a

527
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: dead giveaway, isn't it dead? Negative.

528
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: But it goes going back to you know, Brady was

529
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: in New England for twenty two years. The guy's watching

530
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: and so when he watches film, he's probably thinking, you know,

531
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: I watched film with him, you know, like, all right,

532
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: well we didn't do good here. Then this is the

533
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: reason you have to flip your brain when you get

534
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: on TV and and and you have to like not

535
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: worry about what was wrong. You have to kind of

536
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: show the great of what the plays are. So that's

537
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: what I was trying to say. You know, when when

538
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: with Brady, you know he he's a perfectionist, So how

539
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: is he going to break down the film? When is

540
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: He's a competitive guy?

541
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

542
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: Right, So when when you go into calling games, the

543
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: research that he's going to have to do, it's gonna

544
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what happens.

545
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: I understand. You know, I don't know tom as I said,

546
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: I've interviewed him a couple of times. But when Tony

547
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: Romo came on board, he was guessing plays and everybody

548
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: just jumped off, Oh my god, he was right a lot.

549
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: Now he doesn't do that.

550
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: People got mad at him.

551
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 7: Uh.

552
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: And after book, when you start, when you don't get

553
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: it right. You know, you don't get it right. That's

554
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: not good. But especially we start getting a bunch of

555
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: them wrong. If Tom comes in and Tom just just

556
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: just do the play. Now there's situations that's set up,

557
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: and Tom, you know, just do the play. Why this

558
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: and why that? We can I'll see you caught the ball? Now?

559
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: Why was that guy open? And this is where Brady

560
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: going here? When I do highlights, I died to do him. Really,

561
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: I have to do him fast. But I also can

562
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: see enough to know that, oh he got an inside release.

563
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: There's no safety there, so it's wide open. And he

564
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: straightened out the post and made it you know, skinny

565
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: post what they call the skin. So I can see

566
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: enough stuff that I can have some fun teaching just

567
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 2: a little. Never throw a bubble screen on the guy

568
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: that's been bump and run. They do it all the time.

569
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: Why they can't get out of the play. It's called

570
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: from the sidelines. Tom will see this and ten thousand

571
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: things more than I did. I was not a student

572
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: of the game. There wasn't that much back then, nothing

573
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: like now. So Tom. Tom will learn all of this

574
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: and time. If he puts the time in he will,

575
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: and he will, and the more comfortably in america's kind

576
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: of like him. They're gonna love him number one, just

577
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: because he's Tom Brady. Yeah. I mean everybody is waiting, waiting, waiting,

578
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: and that's a lot of pressure on him. But who

579
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: can handle it better than Brady?

580
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: This is my dad said. Pressures either make diamonds or

581
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: bust your pipes. Which one's it gonna be?

582
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I started broadcasting, I was in the booth

583
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: doing games and it was horrible.

584
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: You got to like break down the game like you're playing.

585
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: You gotta study now.

586
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, but it's different.

587
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: Well now we have to we have to do synopsis

588
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: for all these games. Yeah, you know, you and you

589
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: got twenty seconds? What people realize you better narrow your

590
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: focus down to one point. Make that point in twenty seconds.

591
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: Don't sit there and try to squeeze, because if you

592
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: on our pregame show sometimes Jimmy will go too long.

593
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's funny. It's when you've got something

594
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: to say and you you got it, you know, and

595
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: it's important, and you start, well, I don't know what

596
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna do. In Philadelphia. They they they were thinking

597
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: they and we're all going we start laughing, and he

598
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: goes a man and the straight handed and we've all started.

599
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: Michael's straight hand was funniest ever. He goes, well, they're gonna,

600
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: you know, they want to try to do this, and

601
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: he's got this move going up and this move going out.

602
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 2: That's the one point I really wanted to and the

603
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: second point, the second point, the second point I forgot

604
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: the second point, just fall out laughing. But in television

605
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: it's okay to not be perfect. It's okay to be humbled,

606
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: be humbled, and be humbled with it, you know. And

607
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: America goes, because how many times do I screw up?

608
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: Names on highlights? I screw up never please you've seen

609
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: those names, those guys, those Haghwaiians. Yeah, O, I pray

610
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: for a nickname Bubba, Oh my god, I mean I

611
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: just butcher them. E t N. I like to have

612
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: never learned.

613
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: When you look at it, it doesn't.

614
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: No, So I mess up a lot, and people are saying,

615
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: you got to get him off of highlights, and I

616
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: think Fox is going on in myghlights are funny, No,

617
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: you're but it's the point for tom Is. I'm sure

618
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: he's watching. I'm sure he's observing, studying. You just don't

619
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: want to be too mechanical. Just want to just let

620
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: us see Tom. People want to know what Tom's got

621
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: to say. Yeah, I know I do. And and you

622
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: know it's gonna be fun to watch it. It's reps too.

623
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: I bet you'll get better as it goes. Absolutely, you

624
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's it's hey, man, how many

625
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: times when that light comes on and you gotta say,

626
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: welcome to Philadelphia. Today we got the Giants in town?

627
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: And boy, am I looking forward to seeing quarterback for

628
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 2: the Giants. He's gonna pay, he's gonna be. He's gonna boy,

629
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna knock it out of the well, not knock

630
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: it out he's quarterback, but he's gonna boy. It's gonna be. Hey,

631
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a great game. And just go, where

632
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: did that come from?

633
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 5: What is that?

634
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: I've done that? So man, and that light comes on,

635
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 2: that brain goes void. It's I mean, because you're taught television.

636
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: You're taught. David Hill said, look at the camera and

637
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: talk to the people. I'm not it's easy for me

638
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: to do that to you. And look over here, what's

639
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: your name again, Tyler Kyler and Jack right seas with

640
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: me is puffed with these guys. But when you narrow

641
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: your focus down the camera too and they say go

642
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: and you go, I mean it happens. It was funny, man.

643
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: You know.

644
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: I did Inside the NFL and it was live to tape,

645
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: and I remember my first did They really don't give

646
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: you any you know, like my first day on the job.

647
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: Nobody helping you. They don't tell you no, they just

648
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: say what do you think?

649
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: Light went on? And thank god it was live tape.

650
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny. We had Phil Simms on

651
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: the CBS Today's Show and we knew he wanted to

652
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: go into television, so we had him over there and

653
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: the producer came in our ear and said, we're going

654
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: to pretend like there is a blackout because of storms

655
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: in some city and we're going to go right into Well,

656
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: we got a whole we got a we got a

657
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: technical problem and Atlanta Island, so we got more time

658
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: here on the show. What we didn't it was solved nothing.

659
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 2: So we got this in our ear to mess with Phil.

660
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: I said, Phil, so before the show started today, you

661
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: were telling me that you and Bill Parcells are having

662
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: problems that y'all don't get along at all in the meeting.

663
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: Is that true? Kid? Oh no, no, no, absolutely not.

664
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: Well it was true, but it was not live or anything.

665
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: He didn't know that. And he man, you talk about funny,

666
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: just set him up and let him go. Boy. So

667
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: those things happen, and that's good times in TV.

668
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: He probably called old Parcels a communist. Old mister Simms

669
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: loved dropping the communists. I worked with him, I worked them.

670
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: These guys are communists.

671
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: Like, what the hell year is this?

672
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: Goddam Phil says communist. Yeah. You know what I've noticed

673
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: on our show, on our show, our show, it is

674
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: is that we went into the Macli reception. I don't

675
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: think we ever finished this is is this part of

676
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 2: the macular reception.

677
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: Well, this is a segment that we jumped into. Right now,

678
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: we'll go back, and we're going to go back. We

679
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: go back to nineteen seventy two. We're gonna we look

680
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: at pop cold. Okay, let's go where we're going. We'll

681
00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: be right back after this quick break. So this segment,

682
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: we go back into time and we like to talk

683
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: pop culture about like what was the era of when

684
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: the game took place. Number one movie was Jeremiah Johnson

685
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two. You remember that movie?

686
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll remember that which it was. That's what's his name,

687
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: Robertbert Redford. I was accused of looking somewhat like him, honestly,

688
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: really good beard and a full head of hair and

689
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: the you know, the good looks and everything.

690
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: Do you know what a meme is, Terry?

691
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: A meme? No? I don't know what I mean.

692
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: So that that's a viral meme that that shot right

693
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: there as a meme. Yeah, it's m e, m e.

694
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of like gifts. It's not me, no, no, no,

695
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: but it's.

696
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: They What is it again? What is?

697
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: The Internet captures little things of movies or pop culture

698
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: or anything and they use it for like an expression

699
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: in text or something. So that right there is a

700
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: meme from Jeremiah Johnson is like one of the most

701
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: popular memes really on the internet.

702
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 8: Right.

703
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: Why is that? I wonder? Because he's a good looking dude.

704
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: Well, because people will say, like, your friends are having

705
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: a party and you guys are texting about it, and

706
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: one of your friends just sends this, oh picture.

707
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: My friends don't text all right, they don't text, and

708
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: we don't damn sure don't know what a meme is.

709
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, so like maybe it's your your age group

710
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: under you're not even forty yet. No, yeah, see there

711
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: you're you're dragging me into something that's gonna make you

712
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: look good and me look bad, and I don't appreciate it.

713
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? You know what I'm talking about.

714
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: You did that mean thing just to piss me off?

715
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: No, I didn't, Terry, Oh, Terry, I'm just trying to

716
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: I'll take the bullet for this one.

717
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: I sent that meme this morning.

718
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 8: Brother. I know.

719
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: I will say this. I will say this. My kids

720
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: are going to be impressed when I said, get that

721
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: meme off, get that me, get that get that meme off.

722
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that. You say, there's another

723
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: meme over here, Get that out of.

724
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: Here that could be used as a meme.

725
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: Exactly.

726
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: Doctor that four right there, that's Outam Vinetaria. He was

727
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: born in nineteen seventy two. That's what we're going over

728
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: right now. The Godfather was delivered in nineteen seventy two.

729
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: Deliverance was in nineteen You like those movies.

730
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: Love them? Yeah, what's your Godfather? I watched Godfather today,

731
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: believe it or not, today today.

732
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: That's a three hour movie.

733
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: You just watched The Godfather in the A. Well, what

734
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: I didn't see? I remembered? How's that that means? In that?

735
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: Like watching it? It is?

736
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's impressive.

737
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: Fun. Yeah, I was, and I was watching it this morning.

738
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. Love that movie. I actually sat remember

739
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: the movie? Oh you don't know, Yeah, but there's no

740
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: way you know which movie it was, Robert Redford The Sting.

741
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: You ever see The Sting? No, I watched it a

742
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: couple of months ago. Thing, Paul Newman, This thing is that? Paul?

743
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: Is that a great movie? I sat. There's a scene

744
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: where the guy where the star of Shaw, Robert Shaw,

745
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 2: is eating roast beef and peas, all right, and he's

746
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: one to know where you getting the money, scutty? You

747
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 2: know where you getting the money, scutty And he's eating

748
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: the peas. I was sitting behind the camera and Paul

749
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: and Robert Redford when they were filming that scene, and

750
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: I was standing back there and I just met Robert Redford.

751
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm still playing football. This is nineteen seventy. He's big. Oh,

752
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: he's not as big as you. No, small, yeah, very small. Anyway,

753
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: I'm standing behind him and they're shooting this scene with

754
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: Robert Shaw eating, and I'm seeing how the lighting is

755
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: all fake. I mean, the room is all faked. I

756
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: didn't know anything, yeah, Sa, I didn't know anything about this.

757
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: It's so cool, Louis.

758
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 8: Yeah.

759
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm sting there and I'm sitting there and I'm watching

760
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: this scene. I mean, I'm I'm from here to that

761
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 2: gentleman over there from well, Robert Shaw doing the dialogue

762
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: and Reference off camera doing his line. You know, he

763
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: did his close up and then later after I'd started

764
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: doing movies, do my close up and then called the master. Anyway,

765
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: so he's shooting and Reford is delivering the lines and

766
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: Shaw's going, are you to mess up? Sat? Sat up,

767
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: capting more peas in there, and then he's kept messing up,

768
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: messing up, played a piece through it. Reference pissed, He's mad,

769
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting back there going whoa. And they had

770
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: to take Robert Shaw off the set into another room

771
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: and the producer or the directors over there talking to

772
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: him to cool him down. I'm like wow. So when

773
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: it came out, i couldn't wait for that scene. And hey,

774
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: I was right there. I saw that scene.

775
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: Now, did that scene right there influence you no into

776
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: wanting to get into Hollywood because you've been in movies.

777
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: Launch? Can it really? Can? I? I think no?

778
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: I know if the Oscars got it messed up on failure

779
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: to long say you you should have been a supporting actor.

780
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: Well. And the comedy, I appreciate that. The naked room

781
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: I want to hear. Oh, the neked room is the

782
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: necond room is historical. I gotta tell you, Harry, I

783
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: gotta tell you the story. So Matthew McConaughey was voted

784
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: sexist guy Alive that year. And you're his dad, and

785
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm his dad, and I'm the one that got neked

786
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: in the movie. He didn't. I did. There's reasons for that.

787
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: Got a nice white butt, all right. So my mother,

788
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: God Russ has just passed away. So my mother. I

789
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: called my mom and she says, a.

790
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 9: Whole baby, all I see your your movies out.

791
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to go see it. Brother Robert,

792
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: the preacher at the Baptist church, he got us a

793
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: bus and after church today all of us blue hairs

794
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: are going to see the movie and he's giving us

795
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: a box lunch and I'm going, no, you, mom, you

796
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: cannot go to the movie. Well why not. I'm naked.

797
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: You're naked. I'm naked. No you're not. Yes, I am

798
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: my mom, I'm neked in the movie. Don't go to

799
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 2: the movie. You would not do your mama that way?

800
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: Yes I would, and I did. And she was so

801
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: disappointed in me. I can't believe you did this to

802
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: your mama. How we go to walk around the neighborhood

803
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: and I said, Mom, it's just my white but I'm naked.

804
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: Told you're never fully naked, because I don't think you

805
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: can be fully naked. You gotta like have something on,

806
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 2: you know. And that's another story, a funny story, I might.

807
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: Add, what's something are you talking about?

808
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: You gotta have a sock on? Yeah, to sock? Yeah? Yeah.

809
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 10: And so the I wish so the director a little

810
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 10: cut off. The director comes to yeh.

811
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: The director comes to me and he goes, you can

812
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: either be naked or you can wear some boxers. My

813
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: last movie, I'm gonna go out with a bang because

814
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: nobody would expect me to get naked. I'm a good

815
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: I got a good image. You know, I'm a wholesome guy.

816
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: But I just thought this is yes too funny. You

817
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: can't pass this opportunity up to get naked, And so

818
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: I said, I'll get naked. Nobody knew I made this decision.

819
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: He said, all right, go back and get out of

820
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: your clothes and get your robe, and you don't come back,

821
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: and got the lighting off set and we'll shoot the scene.

822
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: I said, okay, so I'll get back. They take me

823
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: back on a cart and I go in my trailer

824
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: and I go to the bedroom. Well, there's three socks

825
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 2: laid out, all right. Were they all different sizes? Yeah,

826
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: that's my point. Small at me, I'm no, I'm pulling

827
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: out right. Well, I know you're Jewish.

828
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: Certainly, would we keep picking over here?

829
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: Bobby? Small? Small, medium, large? So I'm sitting in there

830
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you gotta be kidding. I thought I

831
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: was gonna be I didn't have problem to be a neck,

832
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: had been in the locker room a whole life walking

833
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: around neckd for no biggie none. You know, I'm like, goly,

834
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: I gotta make a choice here. Well, it's obviously I

835
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: gotta go.

836
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 11: Small, But I know I know that all the wardrobe

837
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 11: people are outside the door waiting on me to put

838
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 11: on my penis sock.

839
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: You should have traded. Let me finish now. So I went,

840
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: if I take the small, which, by the way, I'm

841
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: being honest with myself, is too big. All right, it's

842
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: too big, and the medium is really too big. In

843
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: the large like you said, I could put my leg

844
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: in that, it's how big this thing was. And I'm like, well,

845
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: that'll be funny if I do that one. But I'm

846
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: gonna go with the medium and just double it a

847
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: couple of time, because I knew those gallas were gonna

848
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: come in and go which one did he get?

849
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 8: Oh?

850
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I grab that medium when I went, you

851
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: gotta be kidding me. I gotta put this thing on

852
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: and gather everything and tie little bow. Oh humiliating, humillion,

853
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: But I did it. I did it. And when I

854
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: went back and shot the scene, the scene was Matthew

855
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: coming up looking at me, the one you see. I

856
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: did the scene in three takes. I got it in

857
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: three takes, and then they said, yes, it's Matthew's got

858
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: to shoot his master, and they said you go back

859
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: and change. I said, okay, So I go back and

860
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: put on my boxers. So I go back, put a

861
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: robe and put my boxer shorts on, and go back

862
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: and we shoot the scene. I'm standing there with my

863
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: boxer shorts. This is great for me because I'm through filming.

864
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm going home. Yeah, and I'm the last scene. So

865
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: my few kind of pump. Little Matthew comes up, going

866
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: it's not the same. I can't quite get the field

867
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,479
Speaker 2: for this. The day comes over to me and says,

868
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: you need to go put your penus sock back on.

869
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: I ain't putting no pen of sock back on it.

870
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: I said, you just tell McConaughey walk up those steps.

871
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: I'll give him something. He walked up. I just dropped

872
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: my drawers and if you want, if you watch the movie,

873
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: you'll see him go.

874
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 7: Did.

875
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: He's doing all he can not to laugh. But I

876
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: wasn't putting that sock back on. Now, I thought, I

877
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: thought when they told me, it's just gonna be the

878
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: director and the camera guy, the sound guy, Matthew and me.

879
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: There's huge wall up Julian. Huge wall. Okay, it's not

880
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: very many people. There's one hundred people on the other

881
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: side of that wall. All part of production. I didn't

882
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: think about that. I've been duped like too. Man.

883
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: I went and did that ESPN body naked shoot? Were

884
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: you really you go naked? No?

885
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: No, did that shoot? I did that. I'd upset me.

886
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I didn't get asked, but that was my

887
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: number one.

888
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: How many people are gonna be there?

889
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

890
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: You want to be comfortable, and they go, it's gonna

891
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: be a small set. You know, there'd be three five people.

892
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: I roll up there, I'm bare and uncle Berry I

893
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: got my robe on, I go bare knuncle there was

894
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: like fifteen twenty people sit here like it's coldness.

895
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: Got yeah, cold, you know what. It's just like, it's

896
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: not fair. You know, just what's not fair? What's not fair?

897
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: It's all these people beating to you know, check you

898
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: out and got so he ain't so much hit.

899
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: I can't have it all, kfo, he can't have it.

900
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: Oh No. It was funny though, to know that even today,

901
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: sixteen years later, after that movie's been shot, that people

902
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: still come up love the neked room, love the Necker.

903
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, eh, that's good. I like that.

904
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: Man.

905
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: Let's jump into the sports world of nineteen seventy two

906
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions of seventy two, Dolphins undefeated?

907
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 2: Do you beat us at home on a fake punt?

908
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: On a fake punt?

909
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 2: Fake punt? We pounded them that day. Everybody that played

910
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: Miami thought they could beat Miami. Ever, you know what

911
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: I mean. Yeah, and then everybody lost to Miami and

912
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: Larry Sipel on a fourth down ran forty something yards

913
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: of fake punt. Yeah.

914
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: You get sick of seeing the drinking champagne every year.

915
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: God bless those guys. Man. Everybody, everybody in life, I

916
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: would hope has one great moment. Yeah, if we can

917
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: all have one great moment. And that's pretty good, isn't it. Now.

918
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: I've got three kids and so obviously that's great. Yeah,

919
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: I got a great wife. Finally got a great wife.

920
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: So that's all good stuff. But is there one defining

921
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: moment in your life? And you've you could say, well,

922
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: I've got super Bowls, i got a daughter, I've got whatever.

923
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: So can we have one defining moment in Miami? The

924
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: undefeated team? That is a masterful, defining moment. And I

925
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: just think it's cool for all those players probably never

926
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: be done.

927
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing and you had a chance.

928
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: I wasn't on that team.

929
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: Oh you weren't.

930
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: They didn't do it.

931
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 4: No.

932
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is, well, people don't realize they had

933
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: to go on the road.

934
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.

935
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: Well, it wouldn't hack in that day, right they flipboard

936
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: or what they do.

937
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 2: Well, if you played down there the last time, they

938
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: have to come to you the next time.

939
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So that's more impressive. They had to do

940
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: it on the road. They didn't road dogs.

941
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 2: And get this, and Brian Greasy, uh, I mean Bob

942
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: Greasy had broken an ankle and he had missed most

943
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: of the year. And the backup quarterback, god, I can't

944
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: think of his name now. Earl Morrile, who played for

945
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Colts, was the backup and he had a

946
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 2: phenomenal year and he was pulled in our game and

947
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: Bob Grisey came in and led him to victory. But

948
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: it was the forty three yard fake punt because it

949
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: wasn't a call the fake punt, but he saw the

950
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 2: lineup and took a chance in forty three yards later

951
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: or something like that. Wow, it's pretty cool. That's that's insane.

952
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: And I got knocked out on the opening drive. I

953
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 2: d I drove the team down on the opening drive,

954
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 2: scrambled in for a touchdown, got knocked out, left the game,

955
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,479
Speaker 2: and then it wouldn't happen today. But in the fourth

956
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: quarter I came back in, drove us on another touchdown.

957
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: Didn't even know about it because I was back then.

958
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: You do you remember, oh yeah, two bar Terry, Yeah

959
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: he had. I was looking at some of those pictures.

960
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: Terry brutal. Yeah, terrible.

961
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: The helmet technology probably wasn't there.

962
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: We had the suspension helmets, yeah, early in my career.

963
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: Then we got the whatever those things are called. It's

964
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: so bad. Yeah, you know. We didn't have speakers in

965
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: our helmet. No, that's weird stuff. We didn't have. We

966
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: didn't have things floating down with a parrot bring you.

967
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,959
Speaker 2: It was just a whole different game.

968
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: What's life like for Terry Bradshaw nineteen seventy two, second

969
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 1: year in the league, third year in the league, going

970
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, getting some success.

971
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: Huge It was I already told you they had the

972
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 2: one camera in there or the lights in there.

973
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: What was it life like for you?

974
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: Not just football? It was a good year in the

975
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: sense that I'm sure it was. I just can't remember,

976
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: you know, although I lost my job years later, but

977
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: it was you came back, Yeah, came back, but it

978
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: was it was a good year, So it was a

979
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: good feeling. I wish I could capture a few of

980
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: those emotionally, but too many years, you know.

981
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: And that's probably be when people ask me too to

982
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: like certain years when you didn't win it all, and yeah,

983
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: it was a great year. But you've had so many.

984
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: We just talked about moments in your life, your kids,

985
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: four super Bowls, It's hard to pinpoint them all because

986
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: you've done so many great things.

987
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: Well, you don't want to. Nothing can ever surpass the

988
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: feeling of watching your child being born. Yes, forget it.

989
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: The rest is everything that I have in life is

990
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: all because of football. I am not I am not

991
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: one that thinks, oh football, No, I'm like football, yes,

992
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 2: because I am proud to have been a football player.

993
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: Had I not been a football player, what would I

994
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: have been. I would have probably been a welder because

995
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: that's something I loved. Or I would have worked for

996
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: someone and I would have been working on a farm

997
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: or a farmer, working for somebody. That was my Those

998
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: were my major interests, and so football has given me

999
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: all these opportunities, and I'm so proud of it. I'm

1000
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: not I'm not like one of these guys, as you know, Well,

1001
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: don't associate I'm more than a football player. Well, I'm

1002
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: only more than a football player because football gave me

1003
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: all this to be more of. You know, it's my

1004
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: opportunities that normally in our life. Look, you came out

1005
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: of Kent State, I mean really Kent, and I'm out

1006
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: of Louisiana Tech. You and I, I mean.

1007
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: You're number one pick.

1008
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: I was seventh round. Little matter, but no, no, but

1009
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: you were extremely successful as I was. And we got

1010
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: to play on these amazing teams and with these amazing players. Man,

1011
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: and we've got you know, we've got stories. I wish

1012
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 2: I could remember more. I got so many stories because

1013
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: of all those years you know that I played. I

1014
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 2: played fourteen, I mean, you play twelve, twelve. That's man,

1015
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: that's a good life. Yeah, you know.

1016
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: And I'm in that boat too where I appreciate the

1017
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: game of football. I'm one of those guys where I

1018
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: was given everything, just like you said, because of football.

1019
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm a football player. I'll put on this earth to

1020
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: play football. Yes, now, nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong

1021
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: with it. I have other interests and stuff, and I'm

1022
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: getting because of football to see those avenues. I'm getting

1023
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: to go through those doors because of football. And I'm

1024
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: in that same boat, Uncle, Terry. I love football, and

1025
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: I understand. And I'm sitting here talking to Terry Bradshaw.

1026
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm a goddamn couch because of football.

1027
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: Right, and you should be thankful for that, very thankful,

1028
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: very thankful. Hey, but it it is. I get a

1029
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 2: little upset when I hear certain superstars that are upset

1030
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: to them. Hey, I'm more, Come on, football was this? No, no, no,

1031
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: Football was everything. You wouldn't have any of this if

1032
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: it wasn't for this. You know, coming out of Shreetport, Louisiana,

1033
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: you coming out of Idwood City, Okay there and then

1034
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: we go where we go. You were a quarterback. Then

1035
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: they saw on you a wide receiver. You know, when

1036
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: I was a quarterback, I ended up calling all my

1037
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: plays in college. I called all my plays and pros

1038
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: and not realize that people don't call their plays, and

1039
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 2: so that that is one of the things about my life.

1040
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: I get the biggest kick out of, say I call

1041
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 2: them my own plays. Well, Brady bradyn't call his own plays.

1042
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: He flipped the card number six. I never saw card.

1043
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: What does to say on the card? Yeah, say you play?

1044
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh so yeah, there's like three plays. It has all

1045
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: the plays. If if it's a wordy, if it's a

1046
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: high word play where you have two plays in one, yeah,

1047
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: that's just sometimes when they would have it so they

1048
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: would see the back end play.

1049
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. See. I just sat there and looked at the marker,

1050
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: and the placard would move down and look over. What

1051
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,479
Speaker 2: do y'all think that five yards four? Looked like five

1052
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: to me, I'd be long yard and won't it What

1053
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: do you all think we all to run here? I

1054
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: mean that was the way to play. Man, get in

1055
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: the huddle with your guys and scratch your head and went,

1056
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: I've already called this play twice. Then star Wars said, yeah,

1057
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: let me run a post option on the off side.

1058
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: I think this guy set up for the post but

1059
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: I said, all right, let's from the same play. You

1060
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: do the post option and lend him if I can

1061
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: squeeze that into you. If he stays back, I'll go

1062
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: to you on top of the dig If nine, if

1063
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: he fill over, I'll go to you on the queue.

1064
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: John's all right, right, I mean there it is wide open.

1065
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: Now what's that fun?

1066
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: That's fun. That's when you're in the huddle and Franco says, hey,

1067
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: give me on the trap man. This guy's okay, let's

1068
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: run it now. I'd say I called plays, but we

1069
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: called plays because I involved everybody.

1070
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: Now, what is the offensive coordinator doing?

1071
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: Didn't have one? So the head coach had a head coach.

1072
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: Who's running the meetings When you.

1073
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: Guys are the running back coach and the receiver coach.

1074
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: I think Dick Hope, Tom Moore, and Chuck Knowle would

1075
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: sit down and put the offense together and then it

1076
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 2: would be presented to us by Chuck a great deal

1077
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: with more and Hope adding something. But when you run

1078
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 2: a play of viewers, I don't know. When you run

1079
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: a play in football and it's not successful, but in

1080
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 2: practice it's set up to be successful. So if it's

1081
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: not successful, it's not my fault. It's their fault, you know.

1082
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: But I'm calling the plays, and so it's my fault

1083
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: for calling the play. So it was whenever things weren't

1084
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: going right, I'd say the running game is not working

1085
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: the way I want it. Let's tell you, Dick, we're

1086
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: doing this. There what I can see this and that.

1087
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 2: And then he says, well, let's let's try this. Let's

1088
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: try that. I'll say, okay, Now this passing game, I say, Tom,

1089
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: we've run that on third and short art they're shutting

1090
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: that down. They tried this, and they tried that. I'm thinking,

1091
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: maybe go out this. He says, Okay, go that route,

1092
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: see what happens, and if that doesn't work, then we'll

1093
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: come back with it. I said, Okay, that sounds good

1094
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: and it would work or it wouldn't work. And then

1095
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: I say, okay. Then the guys would say I can't

1096
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: do this. I can't do that one time again in

1097
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: the huddle, Frankly says, give me the ball on ninety

1098
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: two tackle trap and I said, okay, ninety two tackle

1099
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: trap touchdown. Yeah, you know, that's just how we I say,

1100
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: I call the place. But I had a whole lot

1101
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: of help in the huddle calling plays.

1102
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: Now, did you see as you were in the league longer,

1103
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: your your ability to call plays and see things would

1104
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: didn't get better and better. I mean that's crazy, because

1105
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: there's there's an art. What people don't realize there's an

1106
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: art to call and plays call plays.

1107
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: Plays are like a beautiful movie. There's a beginning and

1108
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: there's an end, and there's a storyline, and there's stars

1109
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: in the storyline, and it's maybe it's a romance or

1110
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: maybe it's a drama melodrama. So a movie is kind

1111
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: of like that. Are going to a four part play,

1112
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: maybe an opera. I mean, it's all set up beautifully

1113
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,959
Speaker 2: and everything is tied in, and it's like you learn,

1114
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: if the dancers, which are the safeties, if they dance

1115
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: this way, then the linebackers have to dance that way.

1116
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: And if the corners are in this and or the

1117
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: inside technique outside technique, are they squaring up looking at them?

1118
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: There's little things you learn in the middle of the play.

1119
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 2: You go ha, you know, so you learn to pick

1120
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: up on all of this. And then when when it's

1121
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: all said and done, you know, it really got kind

1122
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: of easy. And there was sometimes when they would fool

1123
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: me with the They would give me a look and

1124
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: then they first time I ever saw yeah, first time

1125
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: I ever saw two man zone, two man. Yeah, they

1126
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: set up all right zone. They jammed and they rowed

1127
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: and ran. All right, well I had I had the

1128
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: tight end on a bow out corner and then the

1129
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: corner pulls off and he's whoa, Now where did this

1130
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: come from? The how did that happen? He's running and

1131
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: then you go, oh you dog, you got me.

1132
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: Corners got me. Yeah, corners can lie, but those safeties can't.

1133
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, that's the acolague. And so it was.

1134
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: You just pick up. It's basically that simple. Now they

1135
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: make it, really, I think today with all the formations

1136
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 2: that are set up, I think it's pretty much set

1137
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: one two three, one two three because there's so much

1138
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: shit to read. And when you had when you had

1139
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: two tight ends and you were doing all of this,

1140
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: I loved it because I say a thousand times during

1141
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: the year doing highlights. Best routing football is across the rounte.

1142
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 2: It is my opinion. It's the one route and fabulous

1143
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: clear him out, cross them, cross them, say who drops

1144
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: and bites? He's there? Swing Look what a tight end? Zone?

1145
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: Sit down man, runaway, then the zone, then the seam,

1146
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: then the outside. You got this. Now you got a

1147
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 2: them and to take off. Oh baby, I love it.

1148
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: It's so cool to hear you talk about calling plays,

1149
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: and people don't understand that that's fun. It's fun, but

1150
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: that is extremely hard to be able to manage. We

1151
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: talk about this whole you know, quarterback operation, quarterback manager

1152
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: now with like the Brock parties and all these guys

1153
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: that are just in there and they're operating at a

1154
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: high level, right, they got some of the best minds

1155
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: in their head, yes, telling them to play like Terry

1156
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: doing that all himself.

1157
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: They have fifteen seconds to shut the mic off, going

1158
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: to the line, yeah, primage and go to what. Don't

1159
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: forget to look at this, don't forget to look at that?

1160
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: A reminders And I don't know how that offense is

1161
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: a run. I do know that when they rent a

1162
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 2: what's called the West Coast, it was all I called

1163
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: her the tree, the triangle because it was flanker tied

1164
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: in a full back or half back or whatever, and

1165
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: it was always one two three, one two three. Then

1166
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: over here you had a combination backside. And last week

1167
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: I actually talked football, the backside had to be five

1168
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 2: yards deeper on so that this was covered by the

1169
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: time I turned to go here, it times up, you know,

1170
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: and it's just fun. To watch that offense run man

1171
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: high in the world do they do that? It's pretty cool.

1172
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: I think with these young kids, they're coat so well

1173
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: Julian that that they're taught.

1174
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: If this happens, here's where you go. If this happens,

1175
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: here's where you go. There's an answer for everything. Yeah,

1176
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: there has to be, you know. And I just I

1177
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: just heard Tony Dungee talk about Belichick. It just hit

1178
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: me right now. Yeah, he said the two things, or

1179
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: he said he taught me one thing when I got

1180
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: into coaching. He said, you always have to have an

1181
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: answer for everything. And we literally and it brought it

1182
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: to me right here because even if we had a

1183
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: play DESI nine for a coverage and we didn't get

1184
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: that coverage, we always had a counter and we had

1185
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: an adjustment that happened because you had a different you know,

1186
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: like there's there's a rhyme and reason for everything you

1187
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: do in these offenses.

1188
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: I agree, and I think what happens today is is

1189
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: that for every off for every play which is designed

1190
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: for zone or a type of zone, or a man

1191
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: or a type of man, and all the printouts from

1192
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: the kid says, here's what you're gonna get. I mean,

1193
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: that's here's what you get. But when you run that play,

1194
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 2: which is a zone play, and man shows up, everybody

1195
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: running that zone route runs a man route. They make

1196
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: their adjustments to the man and the quarterback has to

1197
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 2: see that too, and that, to me, would be the

1198
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: hardest thing for young quarterbacks to pick up on. It's

1199
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 2: even as a veteran quarterback.

1200
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: The great offense, see we would have we'd have plays

1201
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: where you'd have a zone concept on the front side

1202
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: and a man concept on the backside. So if you

1203
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: got both and it was one of those tricky situations

1204
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: where sixty percent of the time in this situation you're

1205
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: getting zone, but there was thirty percent of the time

1206
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: they got this. And then they also have a six

1207
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: percent mixer like coverage that they would do. So you'd

1208
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: have like you get too wordy, and that's when you

1209
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: rely on being on the same page with guys if

1210
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna transfer in the middle of a play zone

1211
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: to man. So a lot of the times, what they

1212
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: do for these quarterbacks is they put a zone concept

1213
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: in one area and they put the man. If you

1214
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: see it's man, go back to your man concept, right,

1215
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: So those guys are running man no matter what. If

1216
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: its zone, you go to the zone.

1217
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. That's I can see that. Yeah.

1218
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: And the strength of the formation always dictates more more

1219
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: people covering it. So the man's concept is really smart.

1220
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: I've never done that. Yeah, but that's first time I've

1221
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: heard that. But I'm thinking, hey, that's that's pretty good.

1222
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good. You got your man beaters and

1223
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: your zone beaters. But there's some these fucking defensive coaches

1224
01:05:58,880 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: are smart.

1225
01:05:59,360 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: Man.

1226
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: They disguise and you know, everyone sees all these motions

1227
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: and these formation indicators pre snap. Now, like now the

1228
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 1: defenses know what you're doing and they're dicking you. They'll

1229
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: put linebacker out there and play Tampa two with the

1230
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: linebacker doing the flat zone defend. It's it's a it's

1231
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: a it's it's a creepy it's.

1232
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 2: What it's like. I always say, I don't know, but

1233
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 2: if he's open, I'm chunking it.

1234
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1235
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: Why he's open and really don't care. It was a

1236
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 2: tall people all the time. Well, if he's open, just

1237
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: throw it to him. Yeah, you know, because then in

1238
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: reading formations, number one number one could actually be number two.

1239
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: Could be one or three, could be one, and two

1240
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: is two and one is three. Just by reading that

1241
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: in itself, I mean that's why I threw two hundred

1242
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: and ten interceptions. What ship is all? Chuck and pray baby,

1243
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: that you're gonna get it, get rid of it. Apologize,

1244
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,520
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Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into the gare ma'am no more episode.

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Speaker 3: Nah, you gotta use one in your text tonight, got it.

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Speaker 3: Let's run through these Raiders offense or team real quick.

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Speaker 3: This was the fourth year owner John Madden. The first

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01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 3: year Al Davis was the sole owner. Ten and three

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Speaker 3: one AFC West, high flying offense, top ten defense, eleven

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Speaker 3: Hall of famers on this team.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Fred Blitten, the Cough, George Bland, Bob Brown, Willie Brown,

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Speaker 3: Al Davis, John Madden, Jame Otto, Gene Upshaw, Ye, Ken

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Speaker 3: Stabler backing up, Darryl Lamonica. I mean this was this

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01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 3: was a chalked full of Hall of Famer Raider teams.

1279
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1280
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 3: Both sides eleven total no no total, sorry, counting owners,

1281
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 3: coaches and players.

1282
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 2: Both sides are just the d We'll get into there. Okay,

1283
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: we'll get in there. I'm looking at Kenny because Kenny

1284
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 2: Stablers to back up and Kenny. Actually in the game

1285
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: of Maclar reception, Kenny came in and ran for a touchdown. Yeah,

1286
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,440
Speaker 2: like thirty forty yard touchdown. Oh man coverage.

1287
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: We watched it, Yeah, did you Yeah, went to the.

1288
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: Left and ran it in.

1289
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: It's we were watching doing the research for this. It's so

1290
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: crazy that that's how people were delivered football back then.

1291
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: A week later, so we were talking about that where

1292
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: you guys would play this game and they would cut

1293
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,839
Speaker 1: it up and then they would present it to people

1294
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: on TV like four or five days later.

1295
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 2: It was that's none. It's all well, we only had

1296
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: what what'd you have back then then in the seventies,

1297
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: how many tape machines? Four? If four? I mean think

1298
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 2: about it. Now you got twenty something, so you could

1299
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 2: now we're high deft. God forbid we miss a play

1300
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 2: today because it's high death. Slow it down there, give

1301
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:03,759
Speaker 2: me a microscope, fred yep, touch the ground incomplete? Incomplete? God,

1302
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean it is.

1303
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: I think about that all the time too, when when

1304
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: you watch football now, the amount of plays that would

1305
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: have been probably taken away back in the past, Oh

1306
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 1: for sure, because there's so many times when the foots

1307
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: off the line and it's a fucking old guy. That's

1308
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: the referees.

1309
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 2: It's it. It's it. How about the immact of reception?

1310
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: Who touched it last?

1311
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: How about that rule? How stupid is that rule?

1312
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: Get into that. But yeah, but I mean you see

1313
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: rules today and you I wouldn't want to be a ref.

1314
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be someone making these calls. And

1315
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I run into a ref the other

1316
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: day flying flying from LA to Dallas Sunday night, Monday morning,

1317
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: Monday morning, and I'm riding with this ref and uh,

1318
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 2: we're talking. I said, I said, I'm going to tell

1319
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: you right now. I know you guys, get some grief. Boy,

1320
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: your job is hard there. You make these calls. You

1321
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: have to make them and meet you can't go. The

1322
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: cloud's going crazy, Hi, chunk that flag out there. You

1323
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: gotta do it. So I have a great deal of

1324
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: respect for there's referees. And when they go back, they've

1325
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: got most of the time, Julian, they're right.

1326
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: That's why I'm so ope. I'm like, I bitch at

1327
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: the rafts, and we all bitch about the rafts because

1328
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: it's the refts. But if you see the way they

1329
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: spot these balls, they get a lot of these goddamn calls,

1330
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: and it's gotta be hard to be them because we're

1331
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: all looking for that one. They don't make you slow

1332
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: everything down. There's a hold on everything.

1333
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: Well, let's go to this angle and they're a football

1334
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: and a handsticking. Well, go to the other angle. That's

1335
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: the high over angle. No, that's not let's go to

1336
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 2: the other side. It's it's we And you know what

1337
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't. I guess it's because of gambling that we

1338
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: have to have all the answers, because people big money.

1339
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 2: They're giving up three points and they're by favored by

1340
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: five and so on and so forth. I guess that's a

1341
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 2: lot of it. I get the biggest kick because I think,

1342
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: I think because of the Colts and the Patriots and

1343
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: two great quarterbacks, those are the two teams that are

1344
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 2: always in the AFC Championship game and thus must see football.

1345
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 2: And you don't want to see a team win on

1346
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 2: a fluke, I guess. And so that's that's where these

1347
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 2: games are highly scrutinized. Man, when you Steelers Raiders highly scrutinize,

1348
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 2: and so I get it. I happen to be one

1349
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: that loves controversy, and I think any game between two

1350
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: teams that are good and there's screaming controversy. The Swearinger

1351
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: call against Lynn Swan and Super Bowl tend did he

1352
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: All he did was Lynn cut inside and tripped over

1353
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: his feet? Back then flag first down for US went on.

1354
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 2: Score should have been punting rules change. Know all the

1355
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: jamming and him running and beating up on receivers done

1356
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 2: by Meil Blunt Tex Ram where the Cowboys fouled, it

1357
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: went crazy and they got the rule end that after

1358
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: five yards hands off. Yeah, but that's good. Back then,

1359
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 2: that's so good for football because the Cowboys hated the Steelers,

1360
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: the Raiders hated Us because of obvious reasons, and it

1361
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 2: just made for must watch television.

1362
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: Speaking of a guy that probably hates the refs, do

1363
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: you have any stories about John mannon Rip associated with

1364
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: this game? He hated the refs after this game? Well,

1365
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: this we coach man You got anything about coach Manon.

1366
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: When he was at CBS and Fox and I was

1367
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: with both networks with him, we had no communication. It

1368
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 2: was best that I stay away.

1369
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: He was really mad still to that day.

1370
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: I don't think he ever Yeah, I think so I

1371
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: think that was his biggest John went to his grave

1372
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 2: thinking he got hose by Pittsburgh and the refs. And

1373
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: who's to say he didn't know, But like I said,

1374
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: that's what made the next match against him good man. Yeah,

1375
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: he knows.

1376
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: He denied when they did the Immaculate Reception documentary.

1377
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 2: He wouldn't.

1378
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: He wouldn't talk about it. He said, no NFL from

1379
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: contact him. He's like, I don't want to talk about it.

1380
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: He was, he was really mad about that.

1381
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, he wouldn't have won anyway. It's like, uh, what

1382
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 2: I tell the Cowboys, whether that's right or wrong. You

1383
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: get tired as a player, you get tired of hearing it. Okay,

1384
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 2: so you got screwed. Listen, you go to a football season.

1385
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 2: You can't tell me when you were nineteen and zero

1386
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: or whatever it was they and you didn't get some

1387
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: good breaks along the way, you didn't get a call

1388
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 2: your way, Your players didn't get hurt, or if they did,

1389
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: they weren't main players. And so that's how a season goes.

1390
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: As a season, that's how a season goes. And you

1391
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 2: just get the right end. You get the right you know,

1392
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 2: you get the you get the long straw every time,

1393
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: never the short straw. And that's kind of the way

1394
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: that game was and the Swearinger call. You get calls

1395
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: maybe that you didn't deserve them, but you're going to win.

1396
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: I threw three interceptions in Super Bowl fourteen. I couldn't

1397
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 2: come up with anything, and you know, just lost and

1398
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 2: they're just they just knew everything I was doing them

1399
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: just like what are they in the huddle? You know,

1400
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: and then finally we pull out a play that they'd

1401
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: never seen. Boom boom, two touchdowns, we win the game.

1402
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: So you never know. But that's how a season is,

1403
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 2: man and you get those breaks that maybe you just

1404
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: don't deserve them, but you get them.

1405
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: That's why we always say the ball has to bounce

1406
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: your way to win that damn super Bowl. And there's

1407
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 1: times where the best team doesn't always win. But that

1408
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: ball was bouncing out that other team's way.

1409
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: Hey, you are so right. And I said right there

1410
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: on the sideline when you made that catch, and you

1411
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 2: talk about bouncing that and I'm saying that coachy here

1412
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: because I've said this to you too many times. But

1413
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 2: you're wherewithal being hit like that and upside down and

1414
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,919
Speaker 2: grabbing putting hand under the one of the greatest moments

1415
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: I've ever seen in football, especially in a game like that.

1416
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: The sat amazing. But you ain't no reason making that ca.

1417
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: You were banged out, man, I mean, but you did.

1418
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 2: And there you have it. That's another one.

1419
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: Too, man, we talked about it earlier. That's the coverage too, Jackie.

1420
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: Why don't you set the stage for these Pittsburgh.

1421
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 2: Stealers stillers, Let's run through this one real quick.

1422
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 3: Another team jam packed with guys that got busts and Canton,

1423
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 3: mel Blunt, Terry Bradshaw, Jackham, frank O, Harris, Art Rooney,

1424
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 3: Dan Rooney, Chuck Nole, mean, Joe Green That.

1425
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: Means was he really mean? Yeah he's mean? Oh yeah.

1426
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 2: He against Cleveland one year, took the helmet off. I

1427
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: believe it was Babb the center and like Samson with

1428
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 2: the job on of an ass, wiped him out. Yeah,

1429
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: oh yeah. They couldn't control him and they had the

1430
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 2: Browns fun. We're in Cleveland and they're scattered, and he

1431
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 2: took that home, went threw it in the stands, ran back,

1432
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 2: grabbed the football, went to the end, threw it in

1433
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 2: the stands and I'm sitting on the sideline like and

1434
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 2: Chuck didn't know Chuck onto it. Everybody's just like this

1435
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: guy's he's man. He's on his rampage right now. Let

1436
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 2: him finish wiping him out. And then it was to

1437
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: this day. I don't think anybody calls him me and

1438
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 2: Joe Green but me, And he hates it when I

1439
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 2: do it, but I do. I do it just to

1440
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: pissy maf.

1441
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: No, he did that in Cleveland. Yes, do you think

1442
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett got inspired to take off someone?

1443
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know what the one thing about, No,

1444
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell you the thing about Joe Joseph Gentleman. Now

1445
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 2: and we're playing Denver and the center kept holding Joe

1446
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 2: and Joe said, look, man, you do this again, and

1447
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: he said, I'm gonna settle this. Well he did. He

1448
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: held him again, writ in the nuts, carried him up. Yeah,

1449
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: of course he got kicked out again, but he made

1450
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 2: a point worth it. He made his point.

1451
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: God, can you imagine who were people giving him ship

1452
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: for that that commercial that he did for coke?

1453
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 2: Well, that Coca Cola commercial changed his image because you

1454
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 2: saw a side of him. He was a good looking man. Yeah,

1455
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: and the giant of a man and through that kid

1456
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: that and the women are out there and the mothers

1457
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 2: are going, oh my god. And he's like that right now,

1458
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: he's the sweetest guy in the world. But back when

1459
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 2: he happened, back when he was possessed, he wasn't. He

1460
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 2: was different guy. Jeez.

1461
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: Now we just listed the countless r Hall of Famers,

1462
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of them. Who's the unsung hero of the

1463
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: team like we had? We always had some kind of

1464
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: guy like the James Whites, the rod Who's that unsung

1465
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: hero for these teams that didn't get the play?

1466
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: Probably Ernie Holmes at tackle, Ernie Holmes amazing, Ernie Holmes,

1467
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 2: Dwight mad Dog why right in Mike Wagner, that man smart.

1468
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 2: I mean, we got Rocky Blier. That's just a bunch

1469
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: of there's a bunch of Hall of Fame two's you

1470
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 2: know that are in? Elsie Greenwood had left End. Hollywood

1471
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 2: Bags was his nickname.

1472
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: You know, why did they call him Hollywood.

1473
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 2: Hollywood. He always had yellow shoes on and he was

1474
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 2: just cool dude man with his deep boys. There's always

1475
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 2: that one.

1476
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: That's our brand and Spikes, remember branding Spikes brand and

1477
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: Spikes was like that. Yeah, big ass dude, that's just

1478
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: wore cool things.

1479
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 2: It was a murder on the field.

1480
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: Blonde Bamba, is that your nickname?

1481
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: The blonde bomber? D Yeah, I white mad Dog. You know,

1482
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 2: back in the seventies, defensive ends were to sixty Yeah,

1483
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 2: you know, to seventy, linebackers to twenty five to thirty. Yeah,

1484
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 2: Big and Dwight Whitet. In practice one day, I threw

1485
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: a pass and for some reason he mad at John

1486
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 2: kob or something. He came through and he decked me,

1487
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: knocked me back over as kettle. Helmet flew off practice

1488
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 2: practice and we practiced in full pass. I found the

1489
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: football and I got a bun through it. I've tried

1490
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: to kill him. Nobody Chuck Noles, He's probably he didn't

1491
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: mind it, but I have to shit knocked out of me.

1492
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: Boss pissed. He came over and I said, let me

1493
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 2: tell you something, mad Dog. You may lose with me,

1494
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: but you'll never win without me. You got that. And

1495
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: I walked over a steaming I tipped my helmet off.

1496
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 2: Y'all sit on your helmets and practice, and we did.

1497
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 2: On my helmet and I'm over there and none. I'm

1498
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 2: mad because nobody got in a fight. Nobody fought for me.

1499
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 2: Maybe that's it. Nobody gave me shit. I don't know what.

1500
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm over by myself. And here comes mad Dog. He

1501
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 2: comes over and he kind of had that high pitch.

1502
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 2: What that guy give me that saying? What was that saying?

1503
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? You know what that saying?

1504
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: You threw it about what you said? What what was that?

1505
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: You said? Huh? And he had his tooth missing, And

1506
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 2: I said, I know what you're told you. You said,

1507
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 2: tom Bob, We're gonna win, may lose, I said, And

1508
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 2: I got to thinking, what did I say? And so

1509
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 2: he sat down. The next thing I know, it's like, hey,

1510
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 2: pull up a chair, pull up a helmet. So we

1511
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,839
Speaker 2: started going, Okay, you knocked me down. I got pissed.

1512
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 2: I hit you with the football. You came at me.

1513
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 2: I pointed at you. And what did I say?

1514
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 12: He said something about you're gonna win with me. I said,

1515
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 12: oh no, no, no, you may lose with me. Yeah,

1516
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 12: that's it that, Yeah, yeah, you're gonna lose with me. No,

1517
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna lose with you. You may lose with me.

1518
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 2: Then what we said and it took us thirty minutes.

1519
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 2: But you'll never win with that. But that's it. Yeah, yeah,

1520
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 2: Oh I like that. I like that. I said, well,

1521
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 2: I like it too. That's an original. Yeah, And to

1522
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 2: this day that was always of course he passed away.

1523
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: God bless you. Joe Green will say. Lon Bamber said,

1524
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 2: you may lose with me, but you'll never win without me. Man.

1525
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: It kind of became the theme of their defense. They

1526
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: used to use it all the time.

1527
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: You know, what is that not football right there? Sood

1528
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: you guys get in a fight?

1529
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah you want to fight it on that no fight or.

1530
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: You guys, there's something that happen.

1531
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:47,440
Speaker 2: There's a disagreement.

1532
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: That same thing happened to me and uh Gilmore. Remember

1533
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore. We just signed him. We just signed him,

1534
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 1: and I was pissed. They gave him fourteen million dollars.

1535
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm over here, you know, we just want a super Bowl.

1536
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: We're on our second you know, we got super bowls?

1537
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,759
Speaker 1: Like they paid this guy fourteen million dollars?

1538
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: Been routing over how many years?

1539
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: It was fourteen a year?

1540
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: What? Yeah?

1541
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: When Stefan and Gidmore came to the Pats, he was

1542
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: the highest paid corner, which he's a he was a

1543
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 1: fucking stud. Made me a lot better, but I was

1544
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: pissed the first day he came in. He was a

1545
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:21,719
Speaker 1: buffalo bill.

1546
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 2: You know.

1547
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to show him first day of pads, this

1548
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,799
Speaker 1: is how we fucking practice here. He kind of hems

1549
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: me up on a flag route. We get into it.

1550
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: I take his helmet off. I started punching on. Belichick goes,

1551
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: you too, get the fuck off the field. Hit the showers, really,

1552
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: so we have to. It's first day of pads.

1553
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 2: You gotta go shower with the guy.

1554
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: So it was the first fucking period, Uncle Terry.

1555
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: It was the first period a water hose outside.

1556
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: But just like you and your teammate, you guys were,

1557
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: we start walking back and we're pissed off at each other,

1558
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, we get into

1559
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: the locker room and.

1560
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1561
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where when you go back

1562
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: out to practice because they told us get out, which

1563
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: was the best. If I would have known that, I

1564
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: would have done that so many more times. Get out

1565
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: of practice, training camp, practice, first day at Pat's, get

1566
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: the fucking I started doing that. Smartened up. But uh,

1567
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: that is.

1568
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I've got so many stories about stuff, like

1569
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: most of them you can't tell you can't can't tell them,

1570
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: you can't tell them. God, and I never you know,

1571
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: I had a chance to do a book here about

1572
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 2: a year ago, a year and a half, and I thought,

1573
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: oh boy, I started thinking about all the chapters and

1574
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: how this is going to be a really fun, exciting,

1575
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: eye opening book. And I got the thought thinking, no,

1576
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 2: it isn't. It's not gonna be good at all because

1577
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say this stuff. And so I said,

1578
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 2: that's it.

1579
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: Cancel some somethings left in between the lines. That's you know,

1580
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: some things left in between the lines just there. So

1581
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: let's go to the next segment. It's time for the

1582
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: Bounty wingman question. Bring out the wings. Joe Green, Me

1583
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: and Joe Green.

1584
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 2: He was my wing guy.

1585
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: He's your wingman. Yeah, you don't have to have one,

1586
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: but if if you want a wing, you're more than

1587
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: welcome to have a wing.

1588
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: They dry or are they wet?

1589
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: Just in case if you would like one, Uncle Terry,

1590
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: those bad boys right there hot, they're mild ish?

1591
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: Are these? Uh? Just popeye wings? Just checking? These are

1592
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 2: these are Buffalo Bufalo Wings.

1593
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: But you know, you know for a fact you everyone

1594
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: whose favorite wingman is is the bounty paper towel. Because

1595
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: you can't have football without wings, and you can't have

1596
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,480
Speaker 1: wings without football Bounty.

1597
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: This is amazing. Let me guess, sponsor, what are you

1598
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: talking about? We talking about?

1599
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: Of course it's a sponsor.

1600
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean there's there's pit and towels that you were

1601
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: here one second. I love Boudy Way, Oh America. Look,

1602
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 2: if you're at home and your kids spilled some stuff,

1603
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 2: you get those tables tops in your kitchen. You probably

1604
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 2: got here the very marble top. Marbletops don't wipe up good.

1605
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 2: But with bounty, the marble top one wipe over there

1606
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 2: and you got it all up. I'm telling I love

1607
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 2: bounty for.

1608
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: For people in the nineteen seventies that had marble tops.

1609
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: You can use that.

1610
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: With granted tops, you can use bounty as well.

1611
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: Hold it granted or marble? Which is best?

1612
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: The wingman question though, Uncle Terry, Yes, who's your best

1613
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 1: wing man?

1614
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: I told you? And Joe Green yeah for sure, are good.

1615
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 2: Me and Joe Green for sure. I didn't know I

1616
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 2: had a wing man. But when the ret when the

1617
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 2: when the press was all over me. Joe Greenman put

1618
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:58,560
Speaker 2: them in their place, he did. It's good. You like

1619
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 2: a little heat? Yeah? Who who are these? Buy some

1620
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 2: their sponsor? Well, who are they? Who made them?

1621
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: We can't say, why not because it's conflicts with bounty segment.

1622
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't make chicken, but we want everything to

1623
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 1: be about bounty.

1624
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 2: I gotta wipe this off my face with from the

1625
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: fine fine.

1626
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: This paper chils very us reusable, oh, very reusable.

1627
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: Bounty and wings that's our favorite? Is it a good wing? Yeah?

1628
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 2: Who makes these?

1629
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: Who made them?

1630
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: Hurricane wings? Hello American TV Here, I'm here with my man,

1631
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 2: Julian Edelman. Julian, No, I'm gonna give you. Julian. Right,

1632
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 2: you're in the mood for some wings, hot chicken wings,

1633
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 2: dry or wet. You gotta go to hurricane wings right

1634
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 2: out here in LA. We don't have them back in Dallas.

1635
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: They're good. Oh mm hmm. That's good stuff. Right, it

1636
01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 2: is a good wing. No, that's good. Do the throw

1637
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 2: that bad boy right there? Oh man, let your spit

1638
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 2: t oh, God, terror, God, you playing nineteen seventy. I'm

1639
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: not Oh, come on to Terry. I used to chew Tobacco.

1640
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: I made him a cake. A mistake. I'm spitting into

1641
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 2: a Coca cola. Can break it, my girls.

1642
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 3: Hey, I only laughed because I've done that too. Oh

1643
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 3: my god, we're doing it. I never laughed so hard.

1644
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 3: Lets lead us up to this game, Jackie. All right,

1645
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 3: little context going into this one. The Raiders closed the

1646
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 3: season on a six game win streak. Steelers closed it

1647
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 3: out five and one. This was the second meeting of

1648
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 3: these guys, fourteen weeks earlier than we beat one.

1649
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 2: We beat them thirty eight, thirty four to twenty eight.

1650
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 3: Terry Rush for two touchdowns, two tugs, and this was

1651
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 3: the first time making the playoffs for the Steelers since

1652
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 3: nineteen forty seven.

1653
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: Nineteen forty seven. Wow, not a math guy, but that's

1654
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: that seems like thirty years.

1655
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: That's a long time.

1656
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: Long time, Yeah, long time. What do you remember about

1657
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: going into this game? Were you nervous because of that

1658
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: whole stigma of we've never been to the playoffs? Or

1659
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: was it a thing?

1660
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 2: I think I was more excited that we had them

1661
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: at home. I knew how hard the game would be,

1662
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 2: so as a player, I had to I don't know

1663
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: how you are, but when the Sunday game was over,

1664
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: Sunday game coming up was all was already on my

1665
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: mind driving home. Yep, I never during football season. I

1666
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: never could park park a day off. I couldn't. I

1667
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: think that's pretty common. But I was automatically thinking, boy,

1668
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 2: you know, I'm guessing now. I'm just thinking of knowing

1669
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 2: how it was. It's gonna be a tough game. They're

1670
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 2: tough defense, you know, so on and so forth. Nervous, Yeah,

1671
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: for sure, is nervous, you know, absolutely not knowing how

1672
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 2: we were going to beat these guys, and knowing that

1673
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 2: we were running football team and they were could at

1674
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 2: stopping the run. You know, what were the surprises it's

1675
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 2: going to be? And the surprise was the weather, horrible weather.

1676
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 2: And then of course, as you know, I'll let you

1677
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 2: ask the questions as this show. But I don't think

1678
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,839
Speaker 2: I was excited at all. I think it was nervous.

1679
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: Is there there's a difference to me. Nervous Is I

1680
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 2: would rather be excited than nervous. We're nervous means that

1681
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the safety right there, but he's really

1682
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: not there, He's really over there. You have to get

1683
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 2: past that, so you get that vision down to that

1684
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: it's blurry, blurry, blurry. Now it's one. And I think

1685
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,600
Speaker 2: nervousness messes with you more. And I think one of

1686
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 2: the things I learned earlier in my career was how

1687
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 2: toe that so I could settle myself down.

1688
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: I used to get real nervous before games, and I

1689
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: like to think because you cared so much, and of

1690
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: course you care, you know, And also with football, you

1691
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: could have the best week of practice, but it's the

1692
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: ultimate team game.

1693
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: But it's set up for you. Yeah, practice is set up. No,

1694
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna lose Zone two man with this right there,

1695
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 2: here's the place, let's run, let's run, let's run. It's

1696
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 2: all set up. It's all set up exactly.

1697
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: So you go in prepared and you would think that

1698
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 1: that makes your nervousness go away. But you learn over

1699
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: time that it's such a team sport that you could

1700
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 1: go out and have a really good game, but you

1701
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: could still lose and it wouldn't get the satisfaction if

1702
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: you still ever go So there's always something that happened.

1703
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 2: Your personal Your personal performance never mattered. Your personal performance

1704
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 2: does give you some cushion to fall on because you're

1705
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 2: just it's just now. If I threw for five hundred

1706
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 2: yards game right there and we lost, I would go, God,

1707
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 2: we lost a playoff game? Are you kidding me? Then

1708
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 2: I go, Okay, I threw for five hundred yards, but

1709
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 2: I'd always go but we lost, so I'd never get

1710
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 2: past we lost. So a small buffer, but not a

1711
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 2: good one. Main. The main thing as a quarterback, as

1712
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 2: I tell everybody, in this game is a classic example.

1713
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 2: Did we deserve to win? Where the rules correct? Did

1714
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 2: we break the who knows? I mean, it's why it's

1715
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 2: voted the best play. But the thing is I threw

1716
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 2: for what eighty yards? Maybe in that game, you know,

1717
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 2: maybe eighty yards. Maybe we rushed for one hundred and twenty.

1718
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what the stats were. They couldn't have

1719
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 2: been that good. I'm looking up here, you know. Oh oh,

1720
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 2: I threw for one hundred and forty four yards. Well

1721
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 2: that'll keep you up all night looking close right there,

1722
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 2: my friend, that was the net threw first quarter.

1723
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 3: I got to hear eleven for twenty five hundred and

1724
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 3: seventy five yards a touchdown in an interception.

1725
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good, not good. But the point I mean,

1726
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 2: we rush for had hundred and eight rushing yards. Okay,

1727
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 2: see not much and they rush for one hundred and

1728
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 2: thirty eight. Yeah, not much. And the thing about that

1729
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 2: game is bad. Was just back and forth back. I

1730
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 2: mean America today would turn a game off back then

1731
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 2: because it's just nothing. Because the AFL, the AFL when

1732
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 2: they merged in sixty nine, that's where the fun was.

1733
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 2: If I were coming out, I would have wanted to

1734
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 2: go to the AFL where you throw the ball forty

1735
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 2: times a game. We're in the NFL, I mean we

1736
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: are in the AFL now because passing the football and

1737
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 2: scoring points moves the doll as far as ratings. We

1738
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 2: want to see fifty touchdowns by a quarterback. We want

1739
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 2: to see Jordan Love playing this week and him having

1740
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 2: thirty two touchdowns, and we want to see all that's

1741
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 2: fun stuff, man, And we dial up to watch the

1742
01:33:55,400 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins play and Patrick Mahomes. That was the That

1743
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 2: was the sixties football in the AFL. So we translated

1744
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 2: into the NFL and the merger, it still took on

1745
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:14,839
Speaker 2: the NFL's run run un nun nun play, great defense,

1746
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 2: run nun nun play, great defense. And this game was

1747
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 2: a classic case of two great teams, one oh af

1748
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 2: NFL and the other the Great AFL Raiders. In the merger.

1749
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 2: I completely at the beginning. Okay, good, I disagree your guess.

1750
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: And if I say that's the way it is, that's

1751
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 2: the way it is.

1752
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: I know, but I didn't agree. Okay, Why people would change? Yeah, okay,

1753
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:45,600
Speaker 1: because back then, defense like a zero zero game in

1754
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 1: the seventies meant the defense was probably knocking the shit out.

1755
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 2: Of the back play. Guys were skipped.

1756
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: Like now, if it's a zero zero, you can't hit

1757
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: nobody in the game, you can't do anything. So that

1758
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: just means it's.

1759
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Terry one nine who won nine to nothing two weeks ago?

1760
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 2: Was it at Tampa Bay? Tampa Bay? Tampa Bay? But

1761
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,440
Speaker 2: that's because I mean Nina.

1762
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 1: Without a doubt.

1763
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 2: Really, I'm a fan, I'm a I'm a spectator. You know,

1764
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there going nine none. It's like when a

1765
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 2: guy pitches a perfect game or no hitter. You want

1766
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 2: to watch a game where nobody gets a hit. I

1767
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 2: don't chicks diak the long ball? Well, how would I

1768
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 2: know about the long bowl?

1769
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: So it's a back I'm just saying that. You know,

1770
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: back in these days, it's zero zero at halftime.

1771
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you put that the score.

1772
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 1: That's what it was.

1773
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 2: How you know, what?

1774
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 1: What what do you guys go in at halftime when

1775
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 1: it's zero zero?

1776
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 2: Julian? How can I possibly answer that question? I was

1777
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 2: twenty four years old. Yeah, I mean, I'll give you

1778
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 2: an answer. I remember Chuck Nole gave the best beach

1779
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 2: ever gave in his life.

1780
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 1: Was he a speech guy?

1781
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 2: No, That's why I'm making it up because he didn't

1782
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 2: have said a word. But I think he Chuck Chuck

1783
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 2: just basically because both teams got together and we get

1784
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 2: on I'd get on the blackboard with the coaches, offensive coaches,

1785
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 2: and here's what they're doing here, and so they'd have

1786
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 2: something and we'd be there doing and then the defense

1787
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 2: was there and then Chuck, with Chuck would give us something.

1788
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 2: But he was not a raw raw never ever, I

1789
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 2: can't imagine Belichick being not either. He just points. He

1790
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 2: would say, if we stopped the run in the second half,

1791
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 2: if we stopped the run in the second half, we

1792
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 2: win the football game. Offense, We just need one good drive,

1793
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:49,679
Speaker 2: you got it, and that was it.

1794
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it. See, I think and I just

1795
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: that people are gonna want to hear what it was

1796
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 1: like back in your day. Right, we're Terry's on the

1797
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 1: whiteboard with the offense. The defense is in the other

1798
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 1: side of the locker room meeting with the defense, which

1799
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 1: is very similar to how it's done nowadays. The halftimes

1800
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: what twelve minutes in a regular season, regular game, super

1801
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: Bowl it's twenty two minutes. So the first three minutes

1802
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 1: when we would get in would be like we all

1803
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 1: just sit there, we all get our breadth. The coaches

1804
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 1: go meet and discuss on what they're going to present

1805
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: to us, and then we would get over and we

1806
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: would go over what they're doing, what we're doing, what

1807
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 1: were scrapping, and we always had information. It was never

1808
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 1: a raw rock kind of thing in my locker room either.

1809
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: And then Bill at the end with the last two

1810
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: minutes would give his keys on what we had.

1811
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 2: To do to win.

1812
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: So it was very similar to that. Coach's jobs not

1813
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: to give you raw rock. Coach's job is to give

1814
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 1: you information. I want the info. Okay, I don't want

1815
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: to hear you need to do this. I want to

1816
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: know on this specific play. Is he giving me inside leverage,

1817
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: outside leverage? Why are they doing this? And that's what

1818
01:37:58,320 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: we got at.

1819
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 2: However, I never could understand. I never was a captain.

1820
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 7: I was.

1821
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't a captain in high school. I wasn't a

1822
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 2: captain in college, and I wasn't a captain in the NFL.

1823
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 2: And I'm glad I don't have time to go and

1824
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 2: pick everybody up. Yeah, you know, I see these guys.

1825
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 2: I remember what was a great linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens,

1826
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 2: ray Lewis. Ray Lewis a cow. I'm like, I don't

1827
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 2: get all that. That's wasted energy or as I like

1828
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 2: to call it, false false chatter. Yeah, I mean, after that,

1829
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 2: you gotta if I'm doing what Ray did, I'm like,

1830
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 2: i gotta take a break. Yeah, take me out. I

1831
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 2: never got that. And all my coaches I have ever

1832
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 2: had were so fundamentally sound, principled. It was all serious,

1833
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 2: and that's the way I approached. I don't have time

1834
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 2: to be raw. I don't want to scream it. I

1835
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 2: don't want to go scream scream at Lynn Swant because

1836
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 2: he'll turn around scream back and say, well, dickhead, you

1837
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 2: threw it behind me. How the hell am I supposed

1838
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 2: to you were right. He's right. Yeah. I used to

1839
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 2: apologize to these guys, but then I got to thinking

1840
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 2: about it. If I'd have been accurate, accurate, none of

1841
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 2: them would have made the Hall of Fame. I'm am

1842
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 2: I right. I mean, you gotta you gotta let him

1843
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 2: show off what they can do. Man, I did that intentionally.

1844
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 2: I just want America to know that, you know what

1845
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 2: magiver forgiver, Bub's easy giver. It was a giver.

1846
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: Hey, Jaguary, don't you break us down to when we

1847
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:48,759
Speaker 1: get to the immaculate receptions.

1848
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 2: He touched on this a little bit earlier.

1849
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 3: Daryl'monica gets pulled in the fourth right, Stabler comes in,

1850
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 3: breaks off a thirty yard touchdown run cover raiders up

1851
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 3: man coverage seven to six. The minute seventeen left, unbelievable.

1852
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 3: Terry and the boys come back out on the field,

1853
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 3: and then we're faced with fourth down ten yards ago

1854
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 3: from their.

1855
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 1: Own sixty six circle posts. There at sixty six circle

1856
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 1: posts right in the huddle. What do you think?

1857
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 2: Do you remember? Do you remember this? I'm just reaching,

1858
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,679
Speaker 2: I'm reaching, reaching, just reaching.

1859
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 1: There's no like no before that play or that drive,

1860
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: like Joe Montana. You look at John Candy.

1861
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 2: We'll get the John Canny guys. None as cool as Joe.

1862
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 2: Joe's supremely confident. I wasn't. I would like I told

1863
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 2: you I played scare man. I played scared because I

1864
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 2: knew I could lose my job on me either. So

1865
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 2: I always had an edge about me when I played.

1866
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 2: But I remember uh running out on the field called

1867
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: uh pass to the tight end. I'm just trying to

1868
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 2: get a first down. Uh No good called another pass?

1869
01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 2: No good called another pass, not even none of them

1870
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 2: are even close to being completed. And I'm just I

1871
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 2: just scratch her, you know. And there is a circle

1872
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 2: option option being to the to the split in safety

1873
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 2: comes up, go post, he stays back corner. It's so

1874
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 2: option right there, and I got to see that. But

1875
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 2: I got flushed out of the pocket, and the reason

1876
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 2: I flushed out got rested. So I did an interview

1877
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 2: with Frankle Harris two weeks prior to We did a

1878
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 2: deal together on this play, and we had so much

1879
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 2: fun talking about this play. And I never thought he

1880
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 2: caught the ball, but he did. I actually ended up

1881
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 2: seeing the picture and he caught the ball. It's about

1882
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 2: ten inches off the ground. Now who hit the ball lasts?

1883
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 2: The rule back then was if Frenchie touched it last,

1884
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 2: we can't receive it. It's incomplete. If someone from the

1885
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 2: Raiders has to touch it after Frenchy and then we

1886
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 2: can receive it and it's our ball. But no two

1887
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 2: Steelers can in a row catch the ball. So did

1888
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 2: Tatum hit it last? Or did french you hit it last?

1889
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 2: That's that was the argument. The way the ball came

1890
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 2: flying back. You know that there was a collision, and

1891
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 2: that the ball could have very easily come off of

1892
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 2: French through the contact from Tatum. That easily could have happened,

1893
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:21,839
Speaker 2: all right, because Tatum was a ferocious hitter. Oh yeah,

1894
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 2: so the impetus could have come from the collision that

1895
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 2: Tatum costs. But did it hit Tatum? I know it

1896
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:32,480
Speaker 2: it hit in there. And if you watch the tape,

1897
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 2: french You's got his hands like this. Yeah, So there's

1898
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 2: no way you're gonna and the ball was going to

1899
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 2: be right there, you know. So there's no way that

1900
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 2: the ball could have hit his hands and bounced so

1901
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 2: many yards backwards. So the impetus had to come through Tatum.

1902
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 2: But did Tatum hit this hand and that ball hit

1903
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 2: his hand and then go, that's what we won't know

1904
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 2: because we don't have the tape to follow it up.

1905
01:42:56,400 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 2: And there was the argument right there was that's an

1906
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 2: incomplete pass, and so the referees were confused and they

1907
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 2: here it is right here. I guess you got it

1908
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 2: in slow motion. I'm going outside of avoided sack. I

1909
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 2: fired the ball, I hit the ground. I hear the

1910
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 2: roar of the crowd. I got a couple of raiders

1911
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 2: on top of me. I hear the roar of the crowd.

1912
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 2: And while I'm on the ground, I go, will excuse

1913
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 2: me for throwing a perfect pass. Let me see how

1914
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 2: many commercials am I going to get out of this.

1915
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 2: I am a hero? Two millions? Because you knew you

1916
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 2: knew the roar. I told you all. Hey, you you

1917
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 2: play long enough. You know of roars. A touchdown roar?

1918
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 2: Oh you know your stadium, that's a touchdown roar. I'm

1919
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 2: on the ground ship man, excuse me for being so good?

1920
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 2: And I stand up and I start jogging, and yeah,

1921
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I'm realizing that it wasn't it

1922
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 2: as perfect as I thought it was. They did you

1923
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 2: see that the hit hit what hit. What you talking about?

1924
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and the ball went flying. What but the

1925
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 2: ball went flying? What do you mean ball went flying?

1926
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 2: You mean yeah, it would bounce back that way that way. Yeah, Well,

1927
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 2: how did Franco get it? Nobody knows. He's he caught

1928
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 2: it out of the air, and ren for he caught

1929
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 2: it out of the air, and ren For he's shicking me.

1930
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't a perfect thing. Now, my piss that goes

1931
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 2: all my that goes Johnny Carson, that goes my movies,

1932
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 2: that goes everything I'd hope for right down the drain.

1933
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 2: Then I saw the picture and I saw Franco later

1934
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 2: and we started talking and laughing. I said, you know,

1935
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 2: sixty six says what you have to block, you stay

1936
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 2: in and block. You didn't block anybody. He said, yeah.

1937
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:57,719
Speaker 2: Say I'm having to run because he missed it, he said,

1938
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 2: And he's standing there and he said he, well he

1939
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 2: learned from Joe at Penn State. Joe pa Pah, yeah,

1940
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 2: Joe pap last name paternal. Yeah, I couldn't think of it.

1941
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 2: At one of seventy five. You get part of the name, right,

1942
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 2: that's pretty good. You got it to be coach. So

1943
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 2: Joe Turner said, when the ball leaves the quarterback's hands,

1944
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 2: you run to the ball. It's kind of like, uh Custer.

1945
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:25,839
Speaker 2: Custer's whole thing was go to the sound of the guns.

1946
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 2: That was his thing, that was his philosophy, that made

1947
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 2: him so daring. And so Franco was taught to go

1948
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 2: to the past. Yeah. So he took off to the

1949
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 2: pass and the ball came back, and that's how he

1950
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 2: ended up catching the past. Had he blocks, I would

1951
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 2: have had time to stand up there and you know,

1952
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 2: make the throw. Doesn't mean it's been complete. But Franco's

1953
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 2: not here anymore, so I can say what I want

1954
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 2: to say. He can't dispute it his soul. Yeah, what

1955
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 2: a what a play? Yeah, then the speed catch the

1956
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 2: ball and out run everybody.

1957
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 1: No, Now the touchdown wasn't cold right after?

1958
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 2: No, well was it. I don't think they knew what

1959
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 2: to do.

1960
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 1: There was a confused team minute break and.

1961
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 2: It was ugly. They go to the phone that's at

1962
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:11,520
Speaker 2: the wall, and.

1963
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean there's footage of you. There's people like talking

1964
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 1: to you, grabbing you. The game's not over, you said,

1965
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 1: I know. I mean they rushed the field. Wait, I

1966
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 1: had the girl was.

1967
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm married, and I can't remember either. My brother, my

1968
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 2: brother in law. Somebody was on the field hugging me

1969
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 2: and he was telling me what happened. It may have

1970
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:32,559
Speaker 2: been the girl as Dayton's brother, I don't know, but anyway,

1971
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 2: how did he get down there? You know? It was

1972
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 2: total chaos and we waited and waited, and there's so

1973
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 2: many things that have been said. The ref goes or

1974
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:48,480
Speaker 2: the guy up in the booth goes, hey, man, you

1975
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 2: this ain't a touchdown. We got problems. Well, Willie Brown,

1976
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:54,679
Speaker 2: that's what made John so mad.

1977
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 1: Willie Brown said he heard the ref say how much

1978
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: security we got? And then two minutes later touchdown.

1979
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 2: That one of their tight ends, their backup tight ends.

1980
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 2: One of our fans hit him over the head with

1981
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 2: a coke ball one night before the game. He had

1982
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 2: to have stitches old Pittsburgh. Then when we played them

1983
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 2: out there the next in the playoff game, they had

1984
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 2: watered the field down and the grass was about this long.

1985
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 2: It was. It was typical Pittsburgh Raiders. Man, it was

1986
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,600
Speaker 2: what's so great about it? Yeah? You know? Now was it?

1987
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: What was a celebration like in the locker room after

1988
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 1: it was a static I'm sure.

1989
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 2: I'm sure we were just sonkers, shocking, and like I

1990
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 2: said earlier, our owner Art Rooney didn't even see it.

1991
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: But a minute something left. He went down, he left

1992
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 2: his box and went down to greet us as we

1993
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 2: went in the door, telling us a great season. And

1994
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 2: then they were down there and the roar and everything,

1995
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 2: and they were asking what happened. He was told he

1996
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 2: just scored. He missed, he missed. The greatest play in

1997
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 2: history right there at home was.

1998
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 1: The immaculate reception, the kickstarter of the dynasty. You think, absolutely, absolutely, you.

1999
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:16,759
Speaker 2: Know what happens, Julian. I remember telling my dad before

2000
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,719
Speaker 2: that season started, if we could, we're going to play

2001
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 2: four teams that were in the playoffs, and if we

2002
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 2: could beat two of them, then that would convince us

2003
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 2: that we're on the right path. Because you build a

2004
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 2: football team, and our team was unlike what they have today.

2005
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 2: It was built through the draft. Back in the seven

2006
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 2: is you built through the draft because there was no

2007
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 2: player movement, There were yet to be cut or traded.

2008
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:39,799
Speaker 2: You had no control.

2009
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: You were playing against Gen Upshaw, who actually made that

2010
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: a rule. There you go free agency, so we're.

2011
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 2: Built through the drafts. You have all these young players,

2012
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 2: and then we ended up beating all four of those

2013
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 2: teams during the season, so I knew we were a

2014
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 2: good football team. Then we beat the Chargers, and then

2015
01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 2: we head home to play in the playoff game.

2016
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 1: That had to feel like a huge weight off. Did

2017
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 1: you feel the weight of.

2018
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 2: I No, I don't think I felt the weight because

2019
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 2: that's been there long enough.

2020
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're when you hadn't been a.

2021
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:15,440
Speaker 2: Part of maybe Sam Davis our left guard, and Ray Mansfield,

2022
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:18,759
Speaker 2: our center who'd been there seven eight years, Andy Russell

2023
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 2: at linebacker, they experience the weights off. And I think

2024
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:26,480
Speaker 2: it's it's like anything, it's it's great to be appreciated.

2025
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:30,560
Speaker 2: It's great to do something that makes people feel good

2026
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 2: not only about the team that they love, but about

2027
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 2: themselves in the city that they're in. So I that's

2028
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 2: where the that's where the joy from winning came from,

2029
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,599
Speaker 2: was all the people that felt so good about it. Yeah,

2030
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 2: including yourself.

2031
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: Obviously you were in that category of too young to

2032
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 1: know how big it was.

2033
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh for sure.

2034
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 8: You know.

2035
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 1: That's that's the it's almost like a brock perty Yeah,

2036
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, you look at that situation. I know it's different,

2037
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 1: but like he hasn't he's been around to know how

2038
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 1: good he's Actually.

2039
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 2: He knows how good the forty nine ers were. And

2040
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure when Ben Roethlisberger came into the Pittsburgh Steelers

2041
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 2: he was aware that there's a big hole. Then you know,

2042
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 2: you gotta win. And then all the other quarterbacks that followed.

2043
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 2: So I think pretty in San Francisco knows about Young

2044
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 2: and he knows about Montana for sure.

2045
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,719
Speaker 1: But he the way he's performing, the way you guys

2046
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: were able to go and win this game, the way

2047
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 1: you handled it right, Like you don't really know.

2048
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 2: No, no, you don't know. You're nuts, you don't know.

2049
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,600
Speaker 2: We knew we were good. What I knew for a

2050
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,759
Speaker 2: fact was our defense was amazing.

2051
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know Jack Lambert can't stay.

2052
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 2: No, he wasn't there then, No, No, that was seventy five. Yeah,

2053
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 2: this is seventy two. So those guys just came home later.

2054
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: Then you got Stalwarth after and what you got seventy

2055
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 1: seventy four, you got Stalwarth and Swan Swan, Yeah, and

2056
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: some people want to forget that that was like one

2057
01:50:58,280 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 1: of the best drafts of all times.

2058
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 2: And Donnie and Lambert, I think yeah. I mean there

2059
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:08,560
Speaker 2: were four Hall of famers in that draft. What a draft? Yeah, yeah,

2060
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 2: and then some guys that were pretty good Mike Wagner. Yeah,

2061
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 2: you guys.

2062
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, you built That's what it was.

2063
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 2: They'll build your time through the What Chuck No did

2064
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 2: that was so brilliant he started. See, the AFL was

2065
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 2: built off the black colleges, and the NFL did not

2066
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 2: go to the black college. They didn't recruit. From my knowledge,

2067
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 2: but my best I know, that's just not where they

2068
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 2: went for players. Yeah, all right, they went to the

2069
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 2: you know, the big schools. Chuck got in a playing

2070
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 2: got his pilot license, and they started flying around all

2071
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,679
Speaker 2: these black schools looking at all these players and going

2072
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 2: m you know yeah. Yeah. Then of course everything just

2073
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 2: snowballed now, you know, doesn't matter where you go, you

2074
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 2: know that.

2075
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pittsburgh's was a pioneer in that whole thing. Yes,

2076
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,560
Speaker 1: they were, you know, with the Rooney rule, you know,

2077
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,959
Speaker 1: and going out and getting right scouting the black colleges.

2078
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean that that's a huge part of why our

2079
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: league is our league. How long do you think, what's

2080
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: the longest you think frank O Harris went without having

2081
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:10,679
Speaker 1: to talk about this game.

2082
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 2: I was pretty success. Depends on where if he's traveling,

2083
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 2: he's talking about it, him and Frenchy Fuqua and Frenchy.

2084
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 2: You know he's still buttoned up about it. Yeah, you know,

2085
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 2: that's part of their legacy. French you won't talk. Franco

2086
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't talk. Franco never said to his to his grave,

2087
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 2: he never said that touched the ground or not. But

2088
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 2: I did end up seeing finally a picture and he

2089
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 2: did catch it up. It didn't hit the ground, So

2090
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 2: that was that was part of the controversy. But did

2091
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 2: it touch the ground? Did he trap it? And and

2092
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 2: to help it along? I always said, of course he

2093
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:57,680
Speaker 2: trapped it, terrible hands, he needed help. Jack. What was

2094
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,759
Speaker 2: the aftermath of this whole thing? It's Terry alluded to earlier.

2095
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 3: This sparked a big rivalry between Oakland and Pittsburgh met

2096
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 3: in the playoffs the next four consecutive seasons, big heated

2097
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 3: rivalry in the seventies. Pittsburgh would go on to lose

2098
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 3: to Miami twenty to seventeen in the AFC Championship Game

2099
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 3: played in Pittsburgh. As we noted earlier, that was the

2100
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 3: seventy two Dolphins team that went undefeated. Oakland would go

2101
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 3: on to win Super Bowl seven, seventy six, and eighty.

2102
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 3: In both those years, they would also draft our man

2103
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 3: Howie Long and.

2104
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 2: The owner to be a Steeler. Oh yeah, I didn't

2105
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 2: know that.

2106
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 1: Who didn't who didn't want to be part of the

2107
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 1: Steele Kurt?

2108
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 2: His number was seventy five and that was Joe Greene's number.

2109
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 1: Mean, Joe green who's the most famous person on your phone? Oh,

2110
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 1: let's see Bradley Cooper. Bradley just went to his house

2111
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, New York to see. But

2112
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper just has he had his time with relationship

2113
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 1: is the stars?

2114
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 2: Baby, your co star? Yeah, became buddy, became Buddies and

2115
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 2: he's actually a bigger star than McConaughey. Now, yeah, and

2116
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 2: I you know, I think, But Julie, I don't even

2117
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 2: have you on my phone. You wouldn't take my call anyway.

2118
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 2: I would give the shirt off my back for you.

2119
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 1: We wouldn't fit too small because you're two jacked I'm

2120
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 1: checked up, jacked up. Yeah, but uh, the legacy of

2121
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 1: this game.

2122
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 3: Got also mentioned that this also sparked the Steeler's reign

2123
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 3: of dominance throughout the seventies, four Super Bowls in six years,

2124
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 3: seventy four, seventy five, seventy eight, and seventy nine. And yeah,

2125
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 3: we see the the statue.

2126
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 2: Of Franco Harris welcoming us at the airport here.

2127
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 1: Has been there ever since. I've seen it firsthand. Is

2128
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 1: this the greatest game of all time?

2129
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 2: Look that you're asking the wrong guy. That I mean,

2130
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 2: I was a part of this amazing play. But who

2131
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 2: am I to argue with anybody that says there's no

2132
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 2: other play that can come close to this, considering the

2133
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 2: situation stealing or and how they were presented, or in

2134
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 2: the NFL and losing ways and the great owner Rooney

2135
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 2: and all the controversy around it, they're probably better plays.

2136
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 2: But there's no controversy. This is filled with controversy and

2137
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 2: that's what makes it great. And if we had the

2138
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 2: Steelers followed this up with just an average year the

2139
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 2: next year and the next year and just kind of fizzled,

2140
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 2: it wouldn't.

2141
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 1: Be the play The kicks start, Yeah, exactly, it was

2142
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: the kick start. Yeah, let's go to the next segment

2143
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 1: where we last final segment, Uncle Terry, what you.

2144
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 2: Got Where we grade the game? You grade the game, grade,

2145
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 2: you grade the game.

2146
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 1: You grade the game, me, you grade the.

2147
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 2: Do we have a leftover? Any leftovers? Jack? Do we

2148
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 2: miss anything anymore? Mimmy mimmy memes today? Unfortunately?

2149
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 3: Uh we uh we got to mention it was a

2150
01:55:56,720 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 3: thirteen to seven was the final score? Got it? It

2151
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 3: looks like you were a married man at the time.

2152
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 3: Couldn't have been a good Sorry, I don't apologize.

2153
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 1: Some things don't work.

2154
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 3: Look, we crafted bill, We talked about great draft picks.

2155
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 3: This was Franco Harris's rookie season. And I'm no interior decorator,

2156
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 3: but I did a little research. Marble is generally more

2157
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 3: expensive than granted.

2158
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 2: There you go, Bob Baby. That's why I had a

2159
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 2: little trouble with the name.

2160
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: There for a second, that's called a perfect pause. Yeah,

2161
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 1: we'll be right back after this quick break.

2162
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. Steak said high. I give it a ten.

2163
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 1: Let's see how you're do it. The name of the

2164
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 1: game is The Immaculate Resception. Let's score the game, presented

2165
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 1: by win Bett. Is this the greatest game of all time?

2166
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 1: Let's score it? Stakes one at a ten decimal is okay, ten,

2167
01:56:59,280 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: let's go ten.

2168
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 2: Divisional round game, Divisional round game. We had absolutely not

2169
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 2: a super Bowl.

2170
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 1: Kickstart the this is the kickstart, right, fucking Kyler Snarty,

2171
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:14,160
Speaker 1: little punk over there, it's Terry Bradshaw sitting on a

2172
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 1: goddamn you use it a tenant.

2173
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 2: To change it to a sixth after I leave, I

2174
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 2: don't care. Seems to be your show anyway, Yeah show.

2175
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a ten simply because that it's

2176
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:31,879
Speaker 2: the number one play ever is in this uh stakes

2177
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 2: for high as high as ever. And you're right, it's

2178
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 2: not a super Bowl, but it is the start of

2179
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 2: a great dynasty and a great uh the great competition

2180
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,560
Speaker 2: between us and the Raiders. And not to mention the

2181
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 2: Raiders also the Cowboys, all right? Could we played them

2182
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 2: in two of the Super Bowl.

2183
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 1: It's a first playoff game for the Pittsburgh steel Sixburg Steelers.

2184
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm just a gut check.

2185
01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, star Power zero to ten. How many Hall of

2186
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: famers on both sides seen nineteen?

2187
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to say, and you know, looking back,

2188
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 2: star Pires ten, ten, ten, I have to argue with

2189
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:13,920
Speaker 2: nineteen Hall of famers.

2190
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, what's the gameplay zero to ten, Uncle Terry,

2191
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 1: Now this one what the gameplay, how the game played out?

2192
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 2: I would give that a six six. Yeah, that's just

2193
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 2: an honest man right there. It wasn't much of a game.

2194
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 2: The name of the game, maclar reception.

2195
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 1: Nothing better than that, but top Nothing comes close, Nothing

2196
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 1: comes close. He just gave me a cowboy look when

2197
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 1: he said that. Now I know why he's in movies, folks.

2198
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 2: I see that. You don't see it again, that's right.

2199
01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 2: Did you learn that from McConaughey or from Bradley Cooper?

2200
01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 2: And I learned that from McConaughey. Yeah. I don't think

2201
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 2: ten is high enough for this game. I don't think

2202
01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 2: we haven't total for the name of this What is

2203
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 2: that nine?

2204
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 1: What is the averages?

2205
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 2: Nine to nine? Let's see where it ranks in all

2206
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 2: the games that we've done.

2207
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 3: Oh wow, this puts us right in between the two

2208
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 3: thousand and four ALCS Game four, between the Red Sox

2209
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:18,640
Speaker 3: and Yankees we have probably David Ortiz, and then just

2210
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 3: above Super Bowl twenty five, the wide right Game Giants

2211
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 3: First Bills where Sam it's right in between those.

2212
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 2: Really with our nine, you know, I thought, you know

2213
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 2: what I up. There's a lot of great Super Bowl games,

2214
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 2: but I thought that game. Yeah, were you with them

2215
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 2: when they played the Carolina NOPEO, that was that was

2216
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 2: the last play?

2217
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 7: Was that?

2218
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 10: No?

2219
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 2: That was that was Rady leading them down for another

2220
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 2: field goal Eventitaria.

2221
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty eight yard or a fifth which but yeah,

2222
01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 1: that was when Madden went on this thing and said

2223
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 1: that they should probably play for for half or for.

2224
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 2: Was that the Rams one? Oh that was in New Orleans? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2225
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 2: let me tell you about that game. So I'm over

2226
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:04,680
Speaker 2: there and I'm presenting the trophy. So it looks like

2227
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 2: Rams have won it. So I'm over there going through

2228
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:10,520
Speaker 2: now my list general managers, head coach who are going

2229
02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:12,760
Speaker 2: to get up there, the players who question, I'm gonna ask,

2230
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 2: and I'm going you know, I'm National TV and from

2231
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:16,720
Speaker 2: one hundred men and p I can't screw this up.

2232
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:20,240
Speaker 2: So I'm going through that touchdown New England. Oh shit,

2233
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 2: Now I'm running back across the other side of the

2234
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 2: field because I'm on the other side. I'm back over there,

2235
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:31,000
Speaker 2: private New England, head coach, general manager, owner, players are

2236
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:32,960
Speaker 2: gonna have, of course question.

2237
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:37,760
Speaker 1: People don't realize, man, oh man, it was Live TV,

2238
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 1: Brady Live TV. They don't call him one take Terry

2239
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 1: for nothing.

2240
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm sitting in the locker room in Green Bay

2241
02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 2: and I had picked the New York Giants all the

2242
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 2: way through Dallas and Green Bay. I picked him to win.

2243
02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm the only one, so I got them. I got

2244
02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:01,840
Speaker 2: them right. Everybody else has been and nailing the Giants.

2245
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 2: You know, I'm the only one.

2246
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:06,080
Speaker 1: But tell that to the.

2247
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 2: Lady that Missus Marra, that owns. She didn't know that.

2248
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 2: She just started all the death. So I'm up there

2249
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 2: and I'm talking and she's pulling on my pants. Leg

2250
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:18,280
Speaker 2: I didn't know it, and I'm talking and she's like,

2251
02:01:18,360 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 2: you know, I picked But I'm like, hey, I'm live,

2252
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking on TV. But hey. And then finally, finally Kirk,

2253
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 2: I got proud up here and Missus Mara. Maybe that

2254
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:42,240
Speaker 2: was the super Bowl when she did. That was the

2255
02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:44,280
Speaker 2: super Bowl that made me because I remember walking in

2256
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 2: the crowd in Green Bay going to the Giants locker

2257
02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 2: room and was on good walk. I'm not good here

2258
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 2: all you got to walk through all those owners, girlfriends,

2259
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 2: players and all of them. But I picked them, so

2260
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:58,240
Speaker 2: I felt good, but I didn't feel good when I

2261
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:01,600
Speaker 2: started walking through there. But yeah, it was. It would

2262
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 2: have been at the Super Bowl and the Giants. No, no,

2263
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 2: that was the playoff game because I because when y'all

2264
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:12,640
Speaker 2: when they wanted in Phoenix, that wasn't part it was.

2265
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:15,120
Speaker 2: It was in Green Bay where she was jerking on

2266
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:21,000
Speaker 2: my pants and I'm going, kurt some broad pulling my pant.

2267
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:23,800
Speaker 1: Then she was doing it because she thought you picked against.

2268
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was mad. Hey you we've been pulling against.

2269
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:30,440
Speaker 2: She was mad, and I'm like, hey, what did you

2270
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:36,080
Speaker 2: think the biggest play with the thing? I went someone

2271
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:41,400
Speaker 2: brought it, Yeah, gotta find that's Miss Marra thought, oh

2272
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:44,840
Speaker 2: my god, this is not good New York football. So

2273
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 2: at the end of the year I got a really

2274
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 2: nice letter from her, and she's sweet saying in the

2275
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:54,040
Speaker 2: world and it became for a couple of years kind

2276
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 2: of a stick. You know. Well, I talked to missus Marra.

2277
02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 2: She's told me Giants are gonna win, So I'm going

2278
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 2: with the Giants. I mean, it kind of became a

2279
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:10,240
Speaker 2: part of the cit Oh got it. She's obviously watching. Yeah,

2280
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:12,120
Speaker 2: it was funny, man.

2281
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 1: Terry, miss anything about this game.

2282
02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't know you didn't play any of my music.

2283
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:19,800
Speaker 2: That upsets me? How did you?

2284
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean we we wanted to bring your music in,

2285
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I thought you'd get uncomfortable because we

2286
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 1: already talked about your two talents, football and the enacting four.

2287
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 3: Times at the Green Old Operay in that right, four times,

2288
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:32,840
Speaker 3: four times.

2289
02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 2: Two gospel albums, both up for a double Awards, which

2290
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:37,600
Speaker 2: is like a Grammy.

2291
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:39,240
Speaker 1: What haven't you done?

2292
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:43,600
Speaker 2: I haven't horses, I haven't skydived, and don't plan on it.

2293
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:45,920
Speaker 2: Why not? I'm scared to death of that. Are you

2294
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:49,000
Speaker 2: scared of heights? Yep? Not real good with heights. My

2295
02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 2: wife changes all the light bulbs in the house. I

2296
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,800
Speaker 2: don't climb on ladders. I don't blame you. I'm not

2297
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:56,200
Speaker 2: getting up. Yeah seventy five.

2298
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 1: That's how you go down to hit it?

2299
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:06,360
Speaker 2: There you And she's like, I'll do no. You get

2300
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:08,600
Speaker 2: on that ladder and as long as I can hold

2301
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 2: on it, something as I'm going up. But man, you'll

2302
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 2: find out one of these days that man, when you

2303
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 2: get old, it sucks. Petrified to fall? How and I

2304
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:21,000
Speaker 2: talk about following? Man, I want to fall. Don't hit me,

2305
02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:26,400
Speaker 2: don't push me, you know. But no, I've had a Julian,

2306
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 2: I've had a first of all, I've never had so

2307
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:32,760
Speaker 2: much fun in doing I call this an interview, but

2308
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:36,880
Speaker 2: it's I've enjoyed this more than you. I I just

2309
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:39,240
Speaker 2: think the world of you. N I picked up on

2310
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:42,400
Speaker 2: your right off the bat. I always liked you, and

2311
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 2: you're talented as I'll get out. And this has just

2312
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:50,520
Speaker 2: been fun, you know. I've just enjoyed it. I hope

2313
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:54,000
Speaker 2: we clean it up a little bit. I don't want

2314
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:57,160
Speaker 2: to be represented all, but it has been so much fun,

2315
02:04:58,000 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 2: and I just think, yeah, I like the way you

2316
02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 2: did it. I like the way we kind of circumvented

2317
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 2: the whole thing and then nailed it on the end.

2318
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:08,200
Speaker 2: So much fun. I thank you so much for having me.

2319
02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:09,640
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

2320
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:12,960
Speaker 1: You know. The game is an excuse for us, honestly,

2321
02:05:13,120 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 1: just to have a conversation with you about not just

2322
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 1: your football career, your acting. You're in music, the horse.

2323
02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:24,120
Speaker 1: It's just cool to get in here and have a legend.

2324
02:05:24,280 --> 02:05:28,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's nice. It's nice to share with everyone that

2325
02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:32,800
Speaker 2: you know as you go through life. And I'm definitely

2326
02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 2: on the other side of the hill there. But there's

2327
02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:39,920
Speaker 2: so many things that we all do that people don't

2328
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:41,880
Speaker 2: know about them, and they don't know about my ranches

2329
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:45,080
Speaker 2: and I mean stallions we stand and all the things

2330
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 2: we do in the horse business, which is so much

2331
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:49,360
Speaker 2: fun they don't know about, you know, me singing at

2332
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 2: the at the Klay Cooper Theater every year. Yeah, traveling,

2333
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:56,760
Speaker 2: doing casinos and singing, singing, Are you kidding me? It's

2334
02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:59,960
Speaker 2: so much fun. I remember when I was doing Vegas,

2335
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 2: and I used to get so nervous when I did Vegas.

2336
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:07,480
Speaker 2: And then one night I had the lights come up.

2337
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:11,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to take a look at this crowd. And

2338
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:13,920
Speaker 2: when they brought the lights up and I saw all

2339
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:17,640
Speaker 2: the wheelchairs and the oxygen's laying over on the side

2340
02:06:17,680 --> 02:06:22,360
Speaker 2: and people asleep, I just thought, all right, no reason

2341
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 2: to be nervous. And that set me free. Now y'all

2342
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 2: singing front two of three thousand people, it doesn't even

2343
02:06:32,160 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 2: phaze me because I know number one they can't here,

2344
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:39,880
Speaker 2: number two probably can't see, and number three they're either

2345
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:42,080
Speaker 2: asleep for they got to pee or they just beat

2346
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 2: in their pants. And it's just fun, you know, And

2347
02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm their age. That's so it just kind of set

2348
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 2: me free, and I don't get nervous anymore.

2349
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't get nervous anymore, folks, he doesn't get nervous.

2350
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:02,840
Speaker 2: That's what I got out it, Terry. I appreciate you

2351
02:07:02,920 --> 02:07:05,600
Speaker 2: so much for coming on. I love you, bro. Yeah,

2352
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 2: you're a good man.

2353
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:07,720
Speaker 1: You're a great man.

2354
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:12,880
Speaker 2: Watch his podcast Hey, by the way, Bounty, Thank you boy.

2355
02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:17,480
Speaker 2: That was an awesome show. Terry. What an absolute legend. Legend.

2356
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:21,600
Speaker 3: He's a pro storyteller, pro storyteller. Hall of famer, our

2357
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:24,200
Speaker 3: second Hall of famer, actually Peyton was our first. I

2358
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:25,440
Speaker 3: believe man.

2359
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:28,200
Speaker 2: Dropping dropping, Oh, I'm hanging out with brad k Warner.

2360
02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 2: I thought he was sorry, Kurt, Sorry Kirk, Kurt Warner.

2361
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:34,840
Speaker 3: Sorry my stories that he's hanging out with Bradley Cooper

2362
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 3: like it's nothing.

2363
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he said he was talking to he

2364
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 1: was with Bradley a couple of days ago.

2365
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:40,600
Speaker 2: Big time, big time.

2366
02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:43,440
Speaker 1: It was so cool for me as a teammate too,

2367
02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 1: just like that was like, you know, Fox teammate. You know,

2368
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:49,920
Speaker 1: I felt like the the guy in the locker room

2369
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:53,080
Speaker 1: that has a charity event that's probably on like special teams,

2370
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 1: trying to make the team and fucking the starting quarterback

2371
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:57,560
Speaker 1: came to my charity event.

2372
02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:59,480
Speaker 2: Shows up at the bowling alley. He came to he

2373
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:02,440
Speaker 2: came to my he came in my charity event. I

2374
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 2: love him. That was so cool.

2375
02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was getting on you, Kyler.

2376
02:08:06,280 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 2: I like that getting on you. He was. He said,

2377
02:08:09,320 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 2: don't you interrupt me.

2378
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:12,320
Speaker 1: Uncle Terry's about politeness.

2379
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:15,080
Speaker 3: You gotta respect your respect, baby.

2380
02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:18,480
Speaker 1: I love I love his his Southern accent. When he

2381
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:19,920
Speaker 1: did the cold open.

2382
02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:23,360
Speaker 2: What is that voice? So good? That was awesome and

2383
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 2: dude like which we haven't heard yet. No, we did.

2384
02:08:26,240 --> 02:08:26,680
Speaker 2: It's the end.

2385
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah and then uh, I mean, this is

2386
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 3: like the immaculate receptor. You don't get much more of

2387
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 3: a game with name than this.

2388
02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:35,400
Speaker 2: Now this is the game, Like, this is the game

2389
02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:35,920
Speaker 2: with a name.

2390
02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm still shining on having Terry broad shot my house

2391
02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:41,120
Speaker 1: so sick eating chicken in the back.

2392
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 2: You see.

2393
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 1: People didn't see that, but you know I saw him fox.

2394
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:49,040
Speaker 1: I always saw Terry always going for that fried chicken.

2395
02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:52,600
Speaker 1: When pop Eyes was in, Terry was in there. All

2396
02:08:52,640 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 1: the coach, all the guys are like usually coaches are

2397
02:08:55,120 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 1: from the South, you know, so they all love that ship.

2398
02:08:57,280 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson and Terry getting that fried chickens. So what

2399
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:02,160
Speaker 1: I say I told the team, I was like, Yo,

2400
02:09:02,200 --> 02:09:04,600
Speaker 1: we gotta have fried chicken waiting for Terry after the show.

2401
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's my tip of the cap to

2402
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:07,200
Speaker 1: the captain.

2403
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:08,800
Speaker 2: Veteran move by you on that one. I love it.

2404
02:09:08,920 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 1: Veteran rookie move, veteran rookie move, veteran rookie move of

2405
02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:13,720
Speaker 1: the bets.

2406
02:09:14,120 --> 02:09:16,480
Speaker 2: Very observation, very observant of you as well.

2407
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:18,560
Speaker 1: Well, you know it. It was a heavy hitter at

2408
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, you always remember those things. It reminds me

2409
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 1: back when you're at the locker room and you know,

2410
02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 1: on Fat Friday we used to call it. You know,

2411
02:09:26,240 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 1: the guys would be going wild during practice because we

2412
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:31,320
Speaker 1: heard what the catering thing was.

2413
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm excited those like five guys all that stuff.

2414
02:09:35,320 --> 02:09:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Billy O'Brien, we go. You get so mad at

2415
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:39,600
Speaker 1: us if we didn't execute.

2416
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 2: I know, you guys are.

2417
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 9: Fucking thinking about your fucking burritos from Chipotle because we

2418
02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:47,320
Speaker 9: got Chipotle in there. But can we get goddamnse you're

2419
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:51,520
Speaker 9: out right thirty four right, even because he's the you're

2420
02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 9: fat fucking Pizza Friday. We all know, you guys, us

2421
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 9: coaches got to go home and sleep after this performance

2422
02:09:57,960 --> 02:09:58,600
Speaker 9: on a Friday.

2423
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:02,920
Speaker 1: You guys have fat fucking f that's great.

2424
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh I got Billy.

2425
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:06,160
Speaker 1: Oh used to get so bad of it.

2426
02:10:06,320 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 2: Pizza Friday? What was the favorite restaurant? I remember when.

2427
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:15,640
Speaker 1: That whole Popeye craze was coming out with the chicken sandwich.

2428
02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 1: They don't have Popeyes around us, so, like, I think

2429
02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:20,880
Speaker 1: we had to send someone to like New Hampshire or

2430
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:24,520
Speaker 1: something to get a Popeyes. The whole team, everyone's in

2431
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:26,440
Speaker 1: there fucking critic the ship's fire.

2432
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:29,760
Speaker 2: You see the Popeyes? We got the chicken sandwich.

2433
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 1: Those those were like, yeah, it was like you get

2434
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 1: in the cold tubs after practice. Guys are sitting there

2435
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:39,920
Speaker 1: talking about the goddamn food. All you guys get the

2436
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 1: Popeyes yet? Nah, dude, I'm waiting until after Mike. We'll

2437
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:44,560
Speaker 1: get my workout in so I can earn it.

2438
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:47,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You're gonna get it?

2439
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Yeah, just fucking I slammed two of them

2440
02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 1: right when I came off the field, and by I

2441
02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:52,320
Speaker 1: go hit it for.

2442
02:10:52,280 --> 02:10:55,720
Speaker 2: A third time. That's fat Fridays were the best.

2443
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:58,320
Speaker 1: So that that's why I wanted to get Terry what

2444
02:10:58,440 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 1: he wanted. That's that's a man to man gesture that

2445
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:06,680
Speaker 1: I pay attention with you like big dog.

2446
02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:08,640
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, it goes a long way. Man.

2447
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 1: That was fun. I can't wait for you guys. I

2448
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:12,480
Speaker 1: can't wait. I can't wait for this one to come out.

2449
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:14,880
Speaker 3: That'll be How about you want to pop into this

2450
02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:15,640
Speaker 3: post show segment?

2451
02:11:15,960 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 1: What segment are you talking about today?

2452
02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:24,040
Speaker 3: We're hitting the hot line, grab bag action, some game rerecks,

2453
02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:26,400
Speaker 3: some musing, some questions.

2454
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 1: Is this thing named we? Is this gonna be a regular?

2455
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:31,320
Speaker 1: Are we gonna call this games with names? Hotline? What

2456
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 1: is the what is the.

2457
02:11:32,320 --> 02:11:34,920
Speaker 2: Second games with names? Hotline? Hit me on my hot

2458
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:41,200
Speaker 2: What is the song hotet? That hotline? Blame you mean

2459
02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:46,760
Speaker 2: one thing? You know? We love Drake? Hey, Drake, come

2460
02:11:46,800 --> 02:11:48,920
Speaker 2: on the show, bro big score.

2461
02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:51,440
Speaker 1: Come on Drake, we can talk school thing brouh. I

2462
02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:53,720
Speaker 1: met him once at a nice guy.

2463
02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 3: I would have never shaken. I would have never washed

2464
02:11:56,280 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 3: my hands if I touched Drake for the rest of

2465
02:11:58,000 --> 02:11:58,360
Speaker 3: my life.

2466
02:11:58,360 --> 02:11:59,000
Speaker 2: Oh I love him.

2467
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:01,840
Speaker 1: He was cool as hell. A beast felt so weird.

2468
02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:04,760
Speaker 1: You feel weird when you have to introduce yourself to someone.

2469
02:12:04,880 --> 02:12:07,080
Speaker 1: We just want a super Bowl. You like you're humbled,

2470
02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:09,560
Speaker 1: and he just said you're you would introduce something to anybody.

2471
02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:12,000
Speaker 1: He knew you were nine, and he knew who I was.

2472
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:14,040
Speaker 1: But I had to go to you know, I went

2473
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:15,840
Speaker 1: to his table. I want to see Drake. We had

2474
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:18,000
Speaker 1: some limelight. After you win a super Bowl, you gotta

2475
02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:19,880
Speaker 1: you gotta shot, you gotta take them.

2476
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:23,200
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, you know. Big Score recognized that in this segment.

2477
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:26,880
Speaker 3: Again your phone number and bling games of names, hoighline

2478
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:29,880
Speaker 3: blinking phone number four two four nine zero.

2479
02:12:30,200 --> 02:12:34,320
Speaker 8: Hi, this is Jan aka edel fan. I have three questions.

2480
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:35,880
Speaker 2: I'll make it fast.

2481
02:12:36,080 --> 02:12:39,320
Speaker 8: You said that you stole the last pair of shoes

2482
02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:43,760
Speaker 8: that Tom wore as a patriot. I'm wondering if you

2483
02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:47,000
Speaker 8: have the last shoes that you wore as a patriot.

2484
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 1: Jan Oh Jam She's always had everything O G legend

2485
02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:52,839
Speaker 1: O G confirmed.

2486
02:12:52,880 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 2: She bought one of those Forever Foxborough shirts.

2487
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:58,760
Speaker 1: Confirmed confirmed, Hell affirmed, thank you, thank you, thank you.

2488
02:12:59,360 --> 02:12:59,920
Speaker 2: We always have.

2489
02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:04,040
Speaker 1: We love Jan lover any charity event, anything. Jans there,

2490
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:09,240
Speaker 1: she's got squirrel mask. Do I have those cleats? I

2491
02:13:09,280 --> 02:13:12,320
Speaker 1: think I have those cleats somewhere. I think I my

2492
02:13:12,440 --> 02:13:15,960
Speaker 1: last cleat it wasn't a cool game, so I think, I, yeah,

2493
02:13:16,000 --> 02:13:18,800
Speaker 1: I have them somewhere, but they're nothing special. The last

2494
02:13:18,840 --> 02:13:22,880
Speaker 1: game was against the forty nine ers. Or what's next one?

2495
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:28,240
Speaker 7: I have a question for Julian. Imagine you're lying alone

2496
02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 7: in bed in a dark mortel room. You stat at

2497
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:34,600
Speaker 7: the ceiling and hear the sounds of cars driving by

2498
02:13:34,760 --> 02:13:38,320
Speaker 7: outside your window. A voice from above presents you with

2499
02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:42,040
Speaker 7: a choice. Would you prefer a cold glass of milk

2500
02:13:42,840 --> 02:13:47,600
Speaker 7: or a warm glass of milk? Which glass do you imbibe?

2501
02:13:48,200 --> 02:13:51,360
Speaker 7: And what would your dreams be? Thank you so much?

2502
02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:53,960
Speaker 1: It was that's Ai.

2503
02:13:54,280 --> 02:13:58,480
Speaker 2: Maybe that sounded like AI. Maybe a Canadian? It's on

2504
02:13:58,560 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 2: the Canadian?

2505
02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:03,160
Speaker 1: Okay they have First off, what is just nineteen thirty?

2506
02:14:04,160 --> 02:14:05,440
Speaker 1: Anyone like warm milk?

2507
02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:06,120
Speaker 8: Oh?

2508
02:14:06,200 --> 02:14:11,400
Speaker 1: My god, Kurt likes warm milk. Oh, it's disgusting. And

2509
02:14:11,400 --> 02:14:13,200
Speaker 1: then what was the one last other one?

2510
02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:15,880
Speaker 2: And what would your dreams be? What would my dreams be?

2511
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:17,320
Speaker 2: Glass of milk?

2512
02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:21,840
Speaker 1: In my dream now is for my kid to grow

2513
02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:25,960
Speaker 1: up and do something amazing, and just that's my dream now.

2514
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:28,880
Speaker 1: I love that having her succeed in what she wants.

2515
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:31,600
Speaker 6: A one who knew such a bizarre question would have

2516
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:34,000
Speaker 6: such a nice answer.

2517
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:37,720
Speaker 1: Really cold milk kid, go far.

2518
02:14:40,440 --> 02:14:40,720
Speaker 2: All right?

2519
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:44,400
Speaker 4: Last one November first, two thousand and eight.

2520
02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:46,080
Speaker 2: Love It Texas.

2521
02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:50,200
Speaker 4: The top ranked Texas Longhorns, led by quarterback Colt McCoy,

2522
02:14:50,680 --> 02:14:55,640
Speaker 4: take on the Texas tech red rated led by Graham

2523
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:57,960
Speaker 4: Harrol and coach Mike Leech repped in Peace.

2524
02:14:58,080 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 2: Leach was capped off.

2525
02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:01,960
Speaker 1: By one in a million cats.

2526
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:04,880
Speaker 4: Not quite as good as Julian Edelman's Super Bowl catch,

2527
02:15:05,160 --> 02:15:06,600
Speaker 4: but pretty dang good.

2528
02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:09,920
Speaker 2: This is the fill in the game with name.

2529
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:13,360
Speaker 4: Here is Val your boy Dollen from Pennsylvania, Jackie Tyler,

2530
02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:16,000
Speaker 4: you guys, rock love you guys right on.

2531
02:15:16,280 --> 02:15:21,120
Speaker 1: What was our guy's name, Dan from p Adallen.

2532
02:15:21,400 --> 02:15:23,800
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, dude, if you're gonna call into a game wreck,

2533
02:15:24,440 --> 02:15:26,360
Speaker 3: that's the way you got to take notes. He did

2534
02:15:26,400 --> 02:15:30,120
Speaker 3: the cold open. He didn't that the games with names

2535
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:32,200
Speaker 3: films type.

2536
02:15:32,920 --> 02:15:36,200
Speaker 2: That was open, and he hit him with a right

2537
02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:42,000
Speaker 2: rad racky.

2538
02:15:42,680 --> 02:15:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you, rack.

2539
02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:46,480
Speaker 2: Racky.

2540
02:15:46,840 --> 02:15:49,040
Speaker 1: Look at Rocky got a haircut because he got all

2541
02:15:49,160 --> 02:15:50,520
Speaker 1: dreaded up, looking good.

2542
02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:51,920
Speaker 2: All right? No more, no more, no more, no more,

2543
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:53,280
Speaker 2: no more? What what?

2544
02:15:53,080 --> 02:15:53,120
Speaker 7: What?

2545
02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:53,360
Speaker 4: So?

2546
02:15:53,400 --> 02:15:56,840
Speaker 6: What was the question he was just recommending? In two

2547
02:15:56,840 --> 02:15:58,040
Speaker 6: thousand and eight Texas.

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Speaker 1: We gotta figure it out. Hey did we get McCoy

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02:16:00,680 --> 02:16:03,000
Speaker 1: and cliff Is Cliff there?

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Speaker 2: No, was THEE game? And eight when was Dola there?

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02:16:08,200 --> 02:16:10,720
Speaker 1: Dola? That was the year Dola got drafted.

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02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:13,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is after him, so Dolan might have

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02:16:13,120 --> 02:16:17,600
Speaker 2: a hookup. We'll figure it out. Yeah, that's a what's

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02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:20,480
Speaker 2: his name, Dollan? Dollan, that's a cool name. I think

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02:16:20,520 --> 02:16:22,880
Speaker 2: he sent us like a cool hockey jersey.

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Speaker 1: You got a hockey jersey?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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02:16:25,680 --> 02:16:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:27,400
Speaker 3: This was the Michael Crabtree game where he caught it

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02:16:27,400 --> 02:16:30,320
Speaker 3: on the sideline and yeah, great, yeah, awesome.

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Speaker 1: He got drafted top ten because of that.

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02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:36,240
Speaker 2: Thirty nine, thirty three tex Texas Tech one in college

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02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:41,040
Speaker 2: Crabtree Sherman game would be so sick. Yeah, who's gonna

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Speaker 2: we'll try to get that in there. Hell yeah.

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02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:45,920
Speaker 1: Hey, for anyone else whoever recommends a game, come on, hey,

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Speaker 1: there's a standard, now come correct. As Mike Tomlin said,

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02:16:51,240 --> 02:16:55,560
Speaker 1: the standard is the standard. Okay, I don't I don't

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02:16:55,680 --> 02:16:57,840
Speaker 1: understand it, but it sounds great.

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02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:02,840
Speaker 2: Good Steelers call that TuS is the Steelers game man.

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Speaker 1: What an episode that was, Thanks again to Uncle Terry

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Speaker 1: Legend legend. And that's been another episode of Games with Names, presented.

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02:17:11,560 --> 02:17:12,440
Speaker 2: By win Bett.

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Speaker 1: Remember to follow Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram, x

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Speaker 1: and snip.

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02:17:19,600 --> 02:17:23,359
Speaker 2: Snipchat, Snipchat, Snipchat sniptat my face, jewish.

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02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:30,680
Speaker 1: Oh oh, Kyler Oh, get at him in the comment session.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you guys next week.

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