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Speaker 1: Welcome again everybody to Colts training camp here at Graham Park,

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Speaker 1: following day number three of practice for the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: The first night practice team practice this afternoon or this evening,

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Speaker 1: I should say, from six to seven point thirty in

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Speaker 1: front of a sold out crowd here at Grand Park.

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Speaker 1: Seven thousand fans strong came out to watch this team

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Speaker 1: in the Indiana twilight. We're all breaking it down here.

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Speaker 1: Training camp is brought to you by Course and Fire

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Speaker 1: and Security. JJ Stangowitz is a long I'm Matt Taylor

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Speaker 1: joining us here in a few minutes will be defensive tackle,

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Speaker 1: the rookie, the fourth round pick out of Northwestern at

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Speaker 1: a Tamawa at a barre is going to check in

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Speaker 1: with myself and Jeffrey Gorman. We'll have that conversation in

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Speaker 1: just a second. But as always, a lot to get

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Speaker 1: into tonight. Recapping the practice session that just got done, JJ,

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Speaker 1: some of the highlights that I jotted down right. The

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Speaker 1: offense was noticeably working on pushing the ball down the

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Speaker 1: field a little bit tonight. Two third down periods today

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Speaker 1: with eleven on eleven work teams periods focusing on punt

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Speaker 1: and then the defense was providing some pass rush, getting

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Speaker 1: after the quarterbacks. But quarterback snap update. We always know

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Speaker 1: that there's gonna be a methodical process between Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 1: and Gardner Minshew in terms of who's taking the first

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Speaker 1: team rips. Day one, it was Minshew out there with

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Speaker 1: the ones. Day two is Richardson. Day three. What it

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Speaker 1: looked like tonight, how the first team offense operate.

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Speaker 2: It was both Richardson and Minshew today over the course

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Speaker 2: of a longer practice Colts went for about an hour

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Speaker 2: and a half today, Matt yep I didn't chart exactly

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Speaker 2: how many snaps each player got, but it looked at

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Speaker 2: like it was pretty even between Gardner Minshew and Anthony

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Speaker 2: Richardson with the first team offense, you know, and there

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Speaker 2: were some early on. I thought Anthony looked pretty good,

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Speaker 2: you know, looked pretty crisp. There weren't any balls on

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Speaker 2: the ground. He was getting the ball out. As practice

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Speaker 2: went on, maybe got a little bit, you know, disjointed

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Speaker 2: at times. He threw high at one point toward I

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Speaker 2: believe it was Kylon Granson, and he had a really

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Speaker 2: pretty deep ball to Vincent Smith that Smith was not

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Speaker 2: able to come in kind of a juggle, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and make the catch on overall though, you know, hearing

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Speaker 2: from Shane Stike and hearing from his teammates, you know,

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. Everyone so far has

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Speaker 2: been very impressed with Anthony Richardson and Gardner Minshew's getting

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Speaker 2: it done out there too. You know, you can see

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Speaker 2: the mental aspect that Gardner has having played in this offense,

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Speaker 2: you know, under Shane Stike in the last two years,

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Speaker 2: having played in the NFL for four years. This battle

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Speaker 2: is just getting started. Yeah, he's kind of where it's at.

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Speaker 2: But I think through three practices now the Colts have

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Speaker 2: tomorrow Sunday off, it's off to a good start. I

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Speaker 2: would say, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, we'll get back to the field here in just

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Speaker 1: a second. But off the field tonight we had Jim Irsay,

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Speaker 1: the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. Obviously he was taking

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Speaker 1: in practice physically during practice tonight, had a one on

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Speaker 1: one meeting with Jonathan Taylor, his star running back. Those

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Speaker 1: two met for over an hour and Jim Mersey's bus

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Speaker 1: here at Graham Park. Had a conversation about Jonathan Taylor's

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Speaker 1: future and jj we know about the landscape of running

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Speaker 1: backs across the NFL with how dissatisfied they are with

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Speaker 1: the future of that position, how things are going financially,

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Speaker 1: how things are going contractually, how things get better in

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Speaker 1: terms of NFL teams viewing that position. Obviously, Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 1: going into the last year of his rookie contract, he's

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Speaker 1: up for an extension. But according to reports here as

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Speaker 1: we sit here and talk right now, after practice a

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Speaker 1: few moments ago, according to the NFL Network and Ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: who covers the league league wide, obviously, he is reporting

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Speaker 1: that Jonathan Taylor, after his conversation with Jim Merseay tonight,

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Speaker 1: jj is formerly requesting a trade from the Colts and

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Speaker 1: he's on pup. He hasn't practiced yet. That's what we

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Speaker 1: know definitively, but that is the report that's going on

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Speaker 1: right now that Jonathan Taylor obviously a little bit unhappy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this developing situation here. You know, we'll we'll kind

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Speaker 2: of keep an eye on it, follow it as it goes.

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Speaker 2: But as a recording, this this kind of just hit

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, Jim Ursay said that he had

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Speaker 2: a great meeting with Jonathan Taylor. He's hopeful going forward

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Speaker 2: the JT will you know, continue to be a part

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Speaker 2: of the team. But we'll see this goes Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: will be something that will you know, certainly be a

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Speaker 2: not been participating in practice, like you said, he's been

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Speaker 2: on pup. You know, Shane Stikeen has maintained that, you know,

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Speaker 2: one Jonathan Taylor is healthy, I'm ready to go. He'll

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Speaker 2: of see where this goes from here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of those things that that's happening

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Speaker 1: off the field. Nothing you can do about it. This

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Speaker 1: is business another example of it's just a hard, cruel

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Speaker 1: reality that this league is a business. It's about entertainment,

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Speaker 1: it's about football. Yes, it's about winning games. But players

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Speaker 1: have to do what they think is best for them

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Speaker 1: given their sit situation, given their age and what in

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's case, what position they play. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: a saga that's ongoing and something that's going to define

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Speaker 1: this training camp and be in the backdrop as we

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Speaker 1: progress here. But let's get back to let's get back

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Speaker 1: to on the field things. The pace of practice very

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Speaker 1: very swift, but specifically when the offense is out there,

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Speaker 1: when they're doing eleven on eleven work, it is very

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Speaker 1: fast between snaps by design, and they want to do

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Speaker 1: that because they think that helps the growth, the sped

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Speaker 1: up maturity and the development of Anthony Richardson. Why is that?

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Speaker 1: According to Shane Steiken.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just you know, to make sure that

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Speaker 2: you know, you're kind of on point on anything. You

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Speaker 2: don't let anything slide, you know, mentally, you stay really

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Speaker 2: locked in. And that's something that has been no problem

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Speaker 2: for Anthony Richardson, whether it's been you know, during OTA's

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Speaker 2: in the off season. You know, hearing from his teammates

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Speaker 2: Shane Stikeen is very you know, it's easy for every

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Speaker 2: coach to say they're detail oriented, right, but like we

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Speaker 2: were talking to quity pay today and he was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, even in walk through, Shane's emphasis is like, hey,

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Speaker 2: don't like f around in this like this is this

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Speaker 2: is not a time for joking.

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Speaker 1: That's our first f around here on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you find out, you know, there's none

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Speaker 2: of that and that that sort of mentality. You've kind

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Speaker 2: of heard it from some players. You know, you were

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Speaker 2: here last year that this team coming off of four

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Speaker 2: that's sort of kicking the butt if you will, of

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Speaker 2: like there's no messing around.

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Speaker 1: You got there for a reason.

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Speaker 2: We're here for a reason where you're here to work.

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Speaker 2: And you know, by the way, like you know, you

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Speaker 2: guys weren't very good last year, so let's let's shape

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Speaker 2: up and let's get after it here. And so far

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Speaker 2: that's what we've seen from these guys. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: the defense I think is has shown up too. You know,

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Speaker 2: the offense is playing fast, so is the defense. One guy,

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Speaker 2: Matt just to highlight through three practices, Kenny Moore the second.

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Speaker 2: Every single day I'm making a note of him making

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Speaker 2: a play on a ball or blowing up a play.

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Speaker 2: The one on one reps that he had with Michael

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Speaker 2: Pittman Junior. Pitt got him on the first one, Kenny

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Speaker 2: Really competitive stuff.

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Speaker 1: He Kenny.

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Speaker 2: Kenny looks back and I'm writing about this on Colts

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Speaker 2: dot Com on Sunday, you can go check it out.

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Speaker 2: But he he looks mentally and physically like the Kenny

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Speaker 2: Moore that we got to know, uh, you know leading

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Speaker 1: And we said on Tuesday when we sat in these

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Speaker 1: know we were going on the round table, who's the

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Speaker 1: guy that has the biggest chip on their shoulder from

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Speaker 1: last year? You know, the guy that needs to bounce back.

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Speaker 1: That's Kenny Moore. He was very i think open about

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Speaker 1: what happened been to him last year, where his mindset was,

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Speaker 1: and just looks like a completely different guy from a

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Speaker 1: just getting on the same page schematically with his defense

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Speaker 1: and Gus Bradley and Ron Miless on how they want

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Speaker 1: to utilize him. That's a great point right there. Staying

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Speaker 1: in the secondary, the Colts are still running with Darryl

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Speaker 1: Baker at cornerback. Juju Brints is still banged up. He's

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Speaker 1: dealing with that hamstring. Darius Rush didn't practice to day

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Speaker 1: with that shoulder. But I think it's time to start

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Speaker 1: talking about Darryl Baker being heavily considered as a guy

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Speaker 1: that can start in this defense.

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Speaker 2: So Darryl Baker, if you look at his athletic traits

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Speaker 2: in his body type, he's got I think he's almost

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Speaker 2: got an eighty inch wingspan. He ran a four to

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Speaker 2: look at his athletic testing numbers, that's like prototype of

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Speaker 2: what Gus. And he's tall six let me pull up

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Speaker 2: his weight here or is a height? Yeah, six to one,

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Speaker 2: So he's long athletic. That's who got you know, That's

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Speaker 2: what Gus Bradley wants in his corners. He wants guys

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Speaker 2: who can you know, you know, hit those benchmarks and

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Speaker 2: Darryl Baker's one of them. He signed as a practice

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Speaker 2: squad guy last year. He didn't play on defense. He

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Speaker 2: got up for a game on special teams, I think.

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Speaker 2: But he's a guy that Colts have liked for a

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Speaker 2: little while now.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And you know with Juju Brents, with Darius Rush being out,

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Speaker 2: he's getting some snaps here. We'll see when Brentz comes

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Speaker 2: back where he slots in, if he goes down to

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Speaker 2: the second team or if you know, Daryl Baker stays

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Speaker 2: on with the first team and Brents is to work

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Speaker 2: his way up. That's gonna be kind of a lingering

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Speaker 2: question here going into next week.

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Speaker 1: I think if my math is right, if you add

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Speaker 1: up the OTAs many camp and then three practices so

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Speaker 1: far here in training camp, was it fifteen eleven on

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Speaker 1: eleven sessions that he's missed in totality? I mean he

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Speaker 1: hasn't been out there. Yeah. Yeah. Are we at the

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Speaker 1: point where we're starting to get a little concerned about is?

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Speaker 1: I'm not?

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Speaker 2: I'm not because the Colts knew when they drafted him

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Speaker 2: that he wasn't going to participate in the offseason program.

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Speaker 2: The hamstring thing, you obviously don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: That's separate from that's separate from the wrist.

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Speaker 2: But the thing with Gus Bradley's defense is that if

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Speaker 2: you're young, it's designed for you to go in there

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Speaker 2: and be able to play fast and pick it up.

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Speaker 2: Well, real quick, just in case you don't know about

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Speaker 2: That was the first time he played defensive tackle. He

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Speaker 2: That probably took a little imagination. But the Colts getting

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Speaker 1: So when it gets to the fourth quarter, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from the man himself. Earlier tonight, Jeffrey Gorman

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Speaker 3: If you want an exciting player on this roster, we

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Speaker 3: I'll play at the next level.

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Speaker 4: I would say early on probably know, but I would

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Speaker 3: Every bit of two hundred and eighty pounds running a

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Speaker 1: To you on that. How's this competition been for you?

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Speaker 3: Because all these cats that are trying to make this

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Speaker 4: But I think the biggest difference is, like here, all

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it. I mean, this guy ran a

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Speaker 4: So just working hard and you know, always asking questions

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's obviously a lot of people to

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Speaker 4: So I think so far good. You know, every time

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Speaker 4: I would just say, you know, everyone's doing what they're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. You know, I think it starts with being

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Speaker 4: the follower, you know, to Lee, you gotta follow and

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Speaker 4: see what the example is. Yeah, I think Buck and

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Speaker 4: Grove do a good job of that, so kind of

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Speaker 4: watching how they lead and stuff like that. And then obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know, I tried my best to you know, support

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Speaker 4: the guys. Say good job and they do something good,

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Speaker 4: you know, give them a handshake, whatever, just let them

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Speaker 4: know I'm there, like you know, saying good job and

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Speaker 4: trying to help out, you know, anywhere I can. You know,

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Speaker 4: like you said, you know, it is a lot of following,

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Speaker 4: you know, just trying to understand what's you know, like

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Speaker 4: how the colts operating, stuff like that. But that's you know,

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Speaker 4: I always still try to add to kind of my leadership,

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Speaker 4: trying to say, you know, good job and things like that.

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Speaker 3: So summer calling you the steal of the recent NFL

449
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Speaker 3: draft going, where you did your emotions? Tell me about

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Speaker 3: that day when you got that call from Chris Ballad

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Speaker 3: ended up talking with head coach Change Styking as well.

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Speaker 4: Shoot time to work. That was my mindset, time to work.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm here now and that's what you know,

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Speaker 4: And that's what I'm trying to do.

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Speaker 1: Did you have an inkling yet was going to be

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Speaker 1: the Colts?

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Speaker 4: I I mean I knew they were one of the

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Speaker 4: teams that liked me, so yeah, I kind of had an.

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Speaker 1: Idea, especially after that combine that.

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Speaker 3: Yet a lot of it's a lot of it's a

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Speaker 3: four four forty, a lot of people like that.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that, that last one for me at a

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Speaker 1: time of while anybody else in this rookie class that

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Speaker 1: you're kind of bonding with or gravitating to going through

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Speaker 1: your first rookie camps together, if you will.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, you know, like you know, just

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Speaker 4: other d linemen, you know, like like like in the

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Speaker 4: rookie class, you know, like Titus Leo, you know, Jamal

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Speaker 4: Woods and Samson, you know Sam.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So just.

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Speaker 4: Just learning from those guys, just kind of going it,

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Speaker 4: you know, to it, you know together as rookies kind

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Speaker 4: of helps, you know, having someone there kind of kind

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Speaker 4: of in your shoes as well.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you make a grand park

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Speaker 1: and practicing in front of all these fans, I mean

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Speaker 1: at Northwestern, I know it's a big time program with

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Speaker 1: the Big ten, but you come out here in front

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Speaker 1: of a sold out crowd seven thousand fans just watching

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Speaker 1: your practice. What do you make of that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? This is way different than cause it feels like

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Speaker 4: game day out here. Yeah, because you know you have

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Speaker 4: the crowd, you know, they're cheering stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's not a beautiful lake over there, no.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, definitely, But I definitely love it though, just

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Speaker 4: seeing the fans come out, you know, their presence kind

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Speaker 4: of watching us practice, you know, definitely as another letter,

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Speaker 4: like another layer of like fine to it, you know, so.

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Speaker 3: At a time away by way, I want to ask

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Speaker 3: you one last question off the football field is there?

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Speaker 3: Are you Do you like sailing? Do you go four wheeling?

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Speaker 3: Do you play pickleball? Are you a basketball fan?

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Speaker 1: Do you knit?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. Give me something off

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Speaker 3: the field that these Colts fans that are listening right

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Speaker 3: now we want to know about you.

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Speaker 4: Should I watch you know, some anime or you know,

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Speaker 4: watch some you know podcasts stuff like that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, keeps you busy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, like I said, I'm still learning, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm learn by myself. Definitely fine, who you know, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, obviously doing my freeway.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be fun watching you progress through your NFL career.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you taking the time, best of luck here

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Speaker 3: at the rest of this camp, and I know you're

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Speaker 3: gonna do your thing on.

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Speaker 4: The field this year, Sir, appreciations you.

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Speaker 1: That is at a Tamawa at a bare here at

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Speaker 1: Colts Camp following practice number three, the first night practice

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Speaker 1: for the Colts team. Again practice for an hour and

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Speaker 1: a half and they will have an off day coming

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Speaker 1: up on Sunday. Right back to work on Monday morning

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Speaker 1: at ten o'clock here at Graham Parkcolts dot com Slash

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Speaker 1: Camp as always for your tickets. But at a bar

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Speaker 1: a just one of a few rookies that is flashing.

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Speaker 1: Josh Dowens is making plays, Darius Rush was making play,

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Speaker 1: so on and so forth. Any other rookies that are

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Speaker 1: catching your eye along the way.

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Speaker 2: And keeping an eye on a meal Achi or the

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Speaker 2: undrafted free agent on Alabama Indianapolis guy. Uh, you know

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Speaker 2: Will Fryes is getting the reps with the first team

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Speaker 2: offense at right guard right now. But Tony Sperano Junior

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Speaker 2: did say this week that you know that still is

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Speaker 2: a competition, yep, you know Achi or me, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe he's a guy who over the course of camp,

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Speaker 2: maybe he starts pushing for that. I think that's good.

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Speaker 2: If If that's the case, if someone pushes Will Fryes

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Speaker 2: at that right guard position, you know it's gonna make

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Speaker 2: Will fries better that you know, if he doesn't get it,

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Speaker 2: that'll make whoever the starting right guard will be better.

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Speaker 2: I want to see, you know that that competition really

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Speaker 2: start to take off. Offensive line competitions are weird, right,

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Speaker 2: You can't like all these like rotate guys in and

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Speaker 2: out the first team. Sometimes you got to just kind

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Speaker 2: of earn it on second team or third team or

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Speaker 2: whatever it may be. So keeping an eye on him.

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Speaker 2: Just as camp goes along.

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Speaker 1: Here, all right, wrapping up pads. Come on on Monday.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna ramp up a little bit in terms of intensity. Uh,

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Speaker 1: some of these puzzle pieces that we still have questions on,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get some definitive answers next week. Next week's

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Speaker 1: going to be a very intense week of practice, very busy, right,

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Speaker 1: as we said, Monday, Tuesday, practice off day, Wednesday, practice Thursday,

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Speaker 1: off day, Friday, and then back to work next weekend

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Speaker 1: both day Saturday and Sunday, right here in front of

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Speaker 1: the fans at Grant Park, when the pads come on, JJ,

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Speaker 1: what do you want to see?

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Speaker 2: I just want to see, you know, the continued development

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Speaker 2: of Anthony Richardson. You know it's gonna get more physical now.

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Speaker 2: You know, the pass rush is going to be a

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Speaker 2: little bit different when the pads come a field different,

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Speaker 2: right the you know, the way the corners and and

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Speaker 2: guys can press is a little bit different when the

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Speaker 2: pads come on. Does he continue kind of trending upward.

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Speaker 2: I'm also going to look towards Shaquille Leonard, who's still

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Speaker 2: he's they said him out on other blitz today. I

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Speaker 2: mean they're watching it night, watching it move, and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's still encouraging. Does that continue when the

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Speaker 2: pads come on? And then you know, I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: Quity paying Dio Dangbo, you know their kind of growth

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Speaker 2: and development here. We heard from both of them today

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. You know, both are encouraged by what they

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Speaker 2: did last year. Quit he says, you know, wants to

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Speaker 2: stay healthy. Diyo wants to kind of take the last

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Speaker 2: four or five six games of the season where he

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Speaker 2: came on pretty strong. Turn that into a good twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three season. One other thing that I want to see,

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Speaker 2: and this is not necessarily with the pads coming on

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Speaker 2: or whatever, but Gardner, minshew, I just want to get

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Speaker 2: back to him for a second. I wrote a word

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Speaker 2: in my notebook today, Saucy Gardner. So he he had

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Speaker 2: a play where he stepped up in the pocket. I

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Speaker 2: think it was during third down and eleven on eleven

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Speaker 2: he stepped up and he kind of did, you know,

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Speaker 2: like Brett Farbus do that, like flick that Like.

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Speaker 1: He did it like three times. Yeah, he did.

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Speaker 2: He did it on one play and then he hit that.

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Speaker 2: He found Pittman for a completion. The next play he

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Speaker 2: does it down the sideline to Dean Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, this is fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like and Gardner's out there, like, you know, bopping

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Speaker 2: his head like having a blast, Like, uh, that was

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Speaker 2: fun to see. I want to see more of those

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Speaker 2: moments from Gardner.

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Speaker 1: You're going to see him. They're fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What else would I want to see? And just again,

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Speaker 2: I you know, to go back to Kenny Moore, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, see him continue to progress. One other note

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Speaker 2: because I want to empty my notebook here on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I think my favorite moment of practice today, Matt Uh.

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Speaker 2: They got into special teams drill late in practice and

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Speaker 2: Rigo Sanchez booms a punt. Is the first punt I

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Speaker 2: think he has had in front of his teammates since

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Speaker 2: he ruptured his achilles last year, and the everyone around

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Speaker 2: him went nuts. That's cheering, and you know, players are

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Speaker 2: whooping and hollering for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that that was a cool moment to see, you know,

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Speaker 2: Rego get that yeah, uh, you know, and see him

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Speaker 2: back out their number eighty.

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Speaker 1: Great point. That's what training camp is all about, those

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Speaker 1: personal milestones. And this game means so much to so many,

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Speaker 1: and we appreciate so many coming out and taking in

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Speaker 1: Colts practice tonight again a sellout crowd over seven thousand

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Speaker 1: strong here at Graham Park again, an off day on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Right back to work on Monday for the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: For JJ Stankobitz and Jeffrey Gorman. Our thanks again to

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Speaker 1: at A Tama at a Bare for joining our podcast

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Speaker 1: here this evening. We will do it again on Monday

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Speaker 1: when the Colts get back to work here at Grand Park.

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Speaker 1: Until then, have a great rest of your weekend and

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Speaker 1: we will talk to you soon. Here are the Colts

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