Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me.
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 2: for a day? Edith Steak is that woo woom?
Speaker 1: And them and tie Welcome back to the solid verbal
Speaker 1: boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me
Speaker 1: as always over there in beautiful Chicago, Illinois. The man
Speaker 1: with the Plan, the one and only.
Speaker 2: To Andrewsteine, Sir, how are you very little in the
Speaker 2: way of a plan. But I did just eat Korean
Speaker 2: fried chicken, and I did just go to a restaurant
Speaker 2: supply store to re up all of the pizza supplies
Speaker 2: I need because I keep getting more and more friends
Speaker 2: and family and neighbors making orders and I don't know
Speaker 2: if I have the time to make them all, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try, so I'm planning on doing that. But
Speaker 2: I also came up with a plan for today's show,
Speaker 2: yes pretty happy about and I did it last week,
Speaker 2: so I've had a bunch of time to get ready
Speaker 2: for it. And also, I don't know if you had
Speaker 2: an opportunity to do this, because I didn't tell you to,
Speaker 2: and I think I should have because if I if
Speaker 2: you're not told to, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If I was not instructor to do so there's a
Speaker 1: near zero percent chance that I did.
Speaker 2: There were spring quote unquote games played over the weekend.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you had a chance to watch
Speaker 2: any of them in full or in highlight packages.
Speaker 1: I knew that they were occurring. Okay, that's a good
Speaker 1: first step, but that's the extent of it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know how much you missed or didn't miss,
Speaker 2: because it just sort of confirmed a lot of things.
Speaker 2: I mean, we assumed Bryce Young was going to be
Speaker 2: at least very good when given the opportunity to start
Speaker 2: at quarterback for Alabama. It turns out really good. It
Speaker 2: looks really good in whatever setting and however much stock
Speaker 2: you put in the Alabama spring game. Also, I learned
Speaker 2: that I think it's ja Quincy McKinstry is you know,
Speaker 2: an up and coming defensive back has a nickname of
Speaker 2: kool Aid.
Speaker 1: Okay, so oh yeah, there was that.
Speaker 2: There was one point where Nick Saban said, get off
Speaker 2: the goddamn field, kool Aid.
Speaker 1: That was fun.
Speaker 2: So that's good. And Alabama has a bunch of really
Speaker 2: good players. C. J. Stroud looked like the better of
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks saw for the starting role.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw the Ohio State quarterback situation. Seems like
Speaker 1: it's a good shape. Like they all looked pretty decent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the freshman got on it. It got in on
Speaker 2: some some reps to Kyle McCord. I guess, right shirt
Speaker 2: freshman whatever he is. And then I watched some of
Speaker 2: LSU Max Johnson look sharp and uh, Keaton Slovis looked
Speaker 2: sort of up and down for USC. But again, this
Speaker 2: is you know, spring games. He's in that he's gonna
Speaker 2: be the starting quarterback for USA. Don't know how much
Speaker 2: that performance meant because a lot of the times these
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are sort of trying to push the ball more
Speaker 2: than they normally would because there are no real repercussions
Speaker 2: if you have the starting role locked up.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, more to come, more to come on that front, certainly,
Speaker 1: I have more.
Speaker 2: I have more like two minutes worth of highlights to
Speaker 2: watch for multiple schools, because that's about all I can
Speaker 2: take spring games solid two minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to have to dive in as well,
Speaker 1: and we will cover that at some point here in
Speaker 1: the very near future. But this frankly, is an idea.
Speaker 1: As you said, you came up with it last week,
Speaker 1: which never happens, especially what is it mid April. We
Speaker 1: came up with an idea last week that we're going
Speaker 1: to execute now like that does not happen.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it's a good idea, not an idea.
Speaker 1: No, But in sv HQ, this is not something that
Speaker 1: typically occurs. You came up with the idea kind of
Speaker 1: around NBA JAM in this case it is CFB JAM.
Speaker 1: And what we've done here is, with some help from
Speaker 1: the internet, we went out. We pulled people to see
Speaker 1: what their favorite duos were. And there's a catch here,
Speaker 1: which I'll let you explain, but we basically have NBA
Speaker 1: JAM style teams for thirty two. We came up with more.
Speaker 1: We couldn't include them all thirty two Power five schools,
Speaker 1: and we're going to go through matchup by matchup and
Speaker 1: break it down.
Speaker 2: Now it's completely subjective. We one hundred percent forgot to
Speaker 2: include certain players that we should have included about, you know,
Speaker 2: regarding these schools or combinations that would have been better
Speaker 2: than what we came up with. And we expect you
Speaker 2: to harass us about everything that we messed up or omitted,
Speaker 2: so essentially what I wanted to do just because I've
Speaker 2: seen you know, I think homage or homage whatever wears
Speaker 2: excuse me, produces those NBA JAM style shirts. But like
Speaker 2: you can get it with like Michael Scott and Dwight
Speaker 2: Shrewt NBA JAM. See they changed it to another thing.
Speaker 2: But also because the draft is coming up and we
Speaker 2: are sort of laser focused. By we, I don't mean we,
Speaker 2: but we as a people, an as a football DORC
Speaker 2: people are most laser focused on those first round talent types.
Speaker 2: And what seems to separate the first round talents from
Speaker 2: the rest of the draft is these are the players
Speaker 2: that arouse your college football brain. These are the players
Speaker 2: that tighten your emotional football pants. Does that make sense
Speaker 2: to you time it does.
Speaker 1: I did not expect that left turn, but continue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you didn't expect that left turn from
Speaker 2: me after all these years. So basically I have a randomizer.
Speaker 2: We have a list of thirty two. We couldn't come
Speaker 2: close to including every school and every incredible player and
Speaker 2: or combination of players, but we have thirty two because
Speaker 2: it's there's only a limited amount of time on this
Speaker 2: podcast and thirty two combinations of players at associated positions.
Speaker 2: Associated positions for this purpose means a quarterback and a
Speaker 2: running back, or a receiver or a tight end, so
Speaker 2: somebody a quarterback would hand the ball off to or
Speaker 2: throw the ball to. A pairing of offensive linemen, you know,
Speaker 2: a tackle and a guard, a tackle and a center,
Speaker 2: so an outside offensive lineman and an interior lineman. And
Speaker 2: then on defense, an interior lineman and an edge or
Speaker 2: you know, defensive end whatever, and then inside linebacker, outside
Speaker 2: line back, safety, corner. So those are the associated positions.
Speaker 2: So like if we were doing PITT and you said
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald Shady McCoy.
Speaker 1: Which I did do because I still don't understand the rules,
Speaker 1: and you're counseling me through this.
Speaker 2: Yes, they don't play associated positions. They're not a tag
Speaker 2: team duo, right, Like you're not getting Aaron Donald won
Speaker 2: play and then Shady McCoy the next, right, So they're
Speaker 2: not a duo. They happen to be on the same team,
Speaker 2: but they're not working in tandem in the way that
Speaker 2: you would want in this made up game that I
Speaker 2: made up last week.
Speaker 1: Right, But that being said, we have people write in
Speaker 1: about what about Russell Wilson and Melvic Gordon that would count?
Speaker 2: Yes, So I'm saying mixing and matching eras is incredible.
Speaker 2: I think that is a great what if element to
Speaker 2: this exercise. So we've got a list here, as we
Speaker 2: said thirty two, you've got a number randomizer and we
Speaker 2: are just going to pick some of these out of
Speaker 2: a hat. Did you want me to keep track of
Speaker 2: them somehow on this dot please?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 2: All right, So we're going between one and thirty two.
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Speaker 1: think I say that every show, But we're going to
Speaker 1: be doing some fun stuff here over the next few
Speaker 1: months as we get a little bit close to the season,
Speaker 1: getting a little bit bigger in the window, and believe
Speaker 1: it or not, it is something we're starting to think about.
Speaker 1: We also have some cool stuff that we're planning, I
Speaker 1: believe for the month of May. If you look at
Speaker 1: the calendar, yeah, correct month of May. So stay tuned.
Speaker 1: We've got fun stuff coming.
Speaker 2: But that's all I have, Dan, Okay, so I'm gonna start. Okay,
Speaker 2: you ready? So the first random number between one and
Speaker 2: thirty two, the first matchup, the first duo is number fourteen.
Speaker 2: Number fourteen is Anthony Barr and Mile Jack. Okay, so
Speaker 2: an outside linebacker, sort of an edge rusher. Anthony Barr
Speaker 2: was very destructive the early twenty tens and Miles Jack
Speaker 2: same era. Miles Jack actually ended up playing running back
Speaker 2: for UCLA. Some went two ways, but he himself was
Speaker 2: a crazy athlete, a high draft pick. And this was
Speaker 2: at the absolute apex of UCLA's defensive dominance, which didn't
Speaker 2: last for very long, but they did have an excellent
Speaker 2: defense for a couple of years there. So that's your
Speaker 2: first killer duo they are taking on you ready, yes,
Speaker 2: generate number five tie. So that UCLA linebacker duo against
Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota and d Anthony Thomas who did overlap at
Speaker 2: the University of Oregon. And I did have an alternate
Speaker 2: of like kve On Thibodeaux and DeForest Buckner, which is
Speaker 2: pretty crazy. But essentially, if you were starting a football
Speaker 2: team or you were facing a football team. If you're
Speaker 2: starting a football team, who arouses your college football sense
Speaker 2: is more or who are you more scared of? If
Speaker 2: the other team has that.
Speaker 1: Duo, I think I go Mariota and de Anthony Thomas
Speaker 1: because in thinking back to that team, they were so dynamic.
Speaker 1: That was right in the height of the Chip Kelly era,
Speaker 1: and there was so much creativity in that offense, so
Speaker 1: much explosion. The way that they used the Anthony Thomas
Speaker 1: and that offense was so damn fun. I mean, they
Speaker 1: used him as a slot receiver, they used him out wide,
Speaker 1: they use him in the backfield, a lot of motion.
Speaker 1: It was just always something to please your college football brain.
Speaker 1: That was super exciting to me. So I have to
Speaker 1: go with Oregon here, despite the fact that Miles Jack
Speaker 1: was really damn fun in college. That was a story
Speaker 1: that we covered if you'll recall time and again, Miles
Speaker 1: Jack playing him all over the field, the way that
Speaker 1: they used him was so much fun. But for me,
Speaker 1: it's I gotta go Oregon here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a Heisman winner, you have the all
Speaker 2: purpose talent and Anthony I'm going to Oregon. I mean,
Speaker 2: you have one hundred yard speed with both Mariota and
Speaker 2: d Anthony Thomas. That's scarier and I just I have
Speaker 2: to make it personal to me that arouses me unlike
Speaker 2: many other of these names, because I'm an Orgon fan. Okay,
Speaker 2: So they would.
Speaker 1: Say of all of these, of all of these here
Speaker 1: that we've got in front of us, Mariota and de
Speaker 1: Anthony Thomas would be top five for me. Like if
Speaker 1: I were going through and picking an NBA Jam team. Okay,
Speaker 1: my team was always a Charlotte Hornets. I was a
Speaker 1: Lonza Morning, I was Muggsy Bogues.
Speaker 2: Oh not Larry Johnson.
Speaker 1: And Larry Johnson. Yeah, those three guys that that was
Speaker 1: my team always in forever. Sometimes I would mix and
Speaker 1: match with little Patrick Ewing and John Starks and jump around,
Speaker 1: but Mariota de Anthony Thomas would be in my top five. Easy.
Speaker 2: All right, you're ready for the next matchup, so Oregon
Speaker 2: moves on. All right, we are doing number ten, which is.
Speaker 1: Who Number ten is Wisconsin. So you've got a as
Speaker 1: a selection here to make. You've got written down Joe
Speaker 1: Thomas and Travis Frederick, which was that was submitted, Yeah,
Speaker 1: submitted and formidable. I don't see how you can't go
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Melvin Gordon here as like your your
Speaker 1: alpha of those two pairings.
Speaker 2: Well, there are very few in this listing incredible offensive
Speaker 2: line duos. This is one of them, Travis Frederick and
Speaker 2: terior lyman Joe Thomas, Hall of Famer left tackle. Do
Speaker 2: you think that Russell Wilson super Bowl winner one year
Speaker 2: with Wisconsin, but was incredible, incredibly efficient and productive. Melgore,
Speaker 2: of course was record breaking. Do you think you are
Speaker 2: more scared you would say of Russell Wilson and Melgore, Okay,
Speaker 2: then we'll go. Then we'll go with that duo instead.
Speaker 2: We acknowledge that duo of Joe Thomas and Travis Frederick,
Speaker 2: but we're going in the more lethal offensive direction they're
Speaker 2: taking on number twenty four. Randomly, number twenty four is
Speaker 2: RG three and Kendall right RG three, so same era.
Speaker 1: R G three, whoa RG three in college was unstoppable.
Speaker 1: Heisman winner in his own right, but he was unstoppable.
Speaker 1: I feel like the tandem of Russ and melgre is
Speaker 1: a little higher level than RG three and kendall Right.
Speaker 1: Even though Kendall no disrespect to kendall Right, he was
Speaker 1: awesome as well in college. But for me, it's Russ,
Speaker 1: Russ and Melgore.
Speaker 2: Now, are you letting the NFL success seep in?
Speaker 1: I will probably show some bias in that regard, yes,
Speaker 1: But in this case.
Speaker 2: Because RG three had an incredible rookie year, he got
Speaker 2: hurt and he was never the same.
Speaker 1: I think for me the reason that I wouldn't go
Speaker 1: Baylor here is because of kendle Right. I feel like
Speaker 1: Russ and Mail Gore is kendle Right was so good.
Speaker 1: I know, I know he was good. They're all good.
Speaker 1: That's why they're on this list, right, Russ and Meilgre
Speaker 1: to me is higher level an RG three and kendle Right.
Speaker 2: I think I'm going RG three. I think I'm going
Speaker 2: RG three because of the danger factor. No pun intended
Speaker 2: with danger. Russ the danger factor with RG three in
Speaker 2: his legs, Like you can't say track speed for a
Speaker 2: lot of fast dudes, you can say track speed. He
Speaker 2: ran for the Baylor team. I think he won like
Speaker 2: the big twelve hurdles as a high school senior. So
Speaker 2: that element paired with the creativity and the lethal element
Speaker 2: of that offense as opposed to the offense which was very,
Speaker 2: very good and very strong that Wisconsin ran. I'm going
Speaker 2: RG three because I would be more scared as a
Speaker 2: safety or middle linebacker taking on an RG three team
Speaker 2: with that duo than I would be withlaur and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: So we've got a split decision. Can we flip a coin.
Speaker 1: Let's let's flip a coin.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll hit the randomizer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, odd, I'll say even. Is Wisconsin odd as Baylor?
Speaker 2: Yeah? RG three three is odd? Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2: It is six, So Wisconsin Wisconsin the nod. Okay, not
Speaker 2: a bad choice, all right, so we'll stick with number six.
Speaker 2: Number six is Auburn. Another difficult choice here.
Speaker 1: This is one where I wanted to go with Cam
Speaker 1: Newton and Bo Jackson.
Speaker 2: You said, no, that's yeah, that's we've got to do
Speaker 2: since two thousand. That's that's the other Cats the rules.
Speaker 1: So fair enough, fair enough, We've got some interesting interesting here.
Speaker 2: So I have Cam Newton plus either Trey Mason or
Speaker 2: Anthony Schwartz. Anthony Schwartz is not the best pure receiver
Speaker 2: that has played at Auburn. These last twenty one years.
Speaker 2: He is the scariest receiver that Auburn has had with
Speaker 2: the ball in his hands. And so that's why I
Speaker 2: included that name. Another legitimate track speed and Trey Mason
Speaker 2: has been got to go Trey Mason unless you want
Speaker 2: to go Cadillac Williams or Ronnie Brown. Well, Trey Mason
Speaker 2: really fun. Yeah wow, Okay, Trey Mason ran for three
Speaker 2: hundred plus yards against a good MISSOO defense and an
Speaker 2: SEC championship.
Speaker 1: They gave him the ball I got gazillion times that season. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: who is Auburn going against? We can sort this out, Okay,
Speaker 1: Auburn and so oh. I alternately I had Carl Lawson
Speaker 1: and Derek Brown, which was submitted in which would be ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Or you could do Carl Lawson, Nick Fairley. I still
Speaker 2: have nightmares.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: There, So Auburn's facing off against do we already do
Speaker 2: number fourteen? We already did number fourteen? UCLA will generate
Speaker 2: again number twenty seven? Tie that's usc oh wow. So
Speaker 2: it's either what a matchup do we have here? Either
Speaker 2: Carson Palmer Matt Lionert, or I suppose Matt Barkley and Reggie.
Speaker 1: Bush has to be Reggie Bush, and I think it
Speaker 1: has to be Liner.
Speaker 2: So from a productive and winning standpoint, linerd is obvious
Speaker 2: from an ability physically, That's where it gets trickier. Sam
Speaker 2: Donald is scarier physically. Matt Barkley has definitely a bigger
Speaker 2: arm and had a bigger had bigger individual seasons personally,
Speaker 2: and Carson Palmer had an enormous arm and he just
Speaker 2: was not paired necessarily with the defense that Matt Liner
Speaker 2: was the USC defense. Now you could go other side
Speaker 2: of the ball as well. There's all sorts of incredible
Speaker 2: defensive linemen and linebacker duos and corner safety duos. But
Speaker 2: in terms of pure college football arousal, it's hard to
Speaker 2: make the case for any single USC player above Reggie Bush.
Speaker 2: And now you're saying Reggie Bush, you're saying a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look, I take your point on Carson Palmer.
Speaker 1: I take your point on Matt Liner.
Speaker 2: You want to go, you know, Leonard Williams, Darrell Casey.
Speaker 2: I'll listen to that. But listen, listen, Reggie Bush. Listen,
Speaker 2: He's hold your breath.
Speaker 1: Scary, Matt Lionert, Reggie Bush. That USC team captured all
Speaker 1: of our imaginations. It has to be Matt Liner and
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush. No offense to Carson Palmer. It has to
Speaker 1: be Liner and Bush. That was a near dynasty in
Speaker 1: college football for a few years running.
Speaker 2: Do you think Matt Lionert's NFL career Not that we're
Speaker 2: taking it into account based on what he did or
Speaker 2: didn't do it as an NFL quarterback, but does that
Speaker 2: make you view his college career more of a game
Speaker 2: manager than stand out scary quarterback, being that he was
Speaker 2: surrounded by.
Speaker 1: The level of talent he was. Well, I don't look,
Speaker 1: he made incredible throws, he was so huge game he
Speaker 1: was so good in college. And we have quarterbacks like
Speaker 1: this every year who are very good in college and
Speaker 1: they don't their game doesn't translate to the pros, right,
Speaker 1: And that's fine. So I don't know. I think I
Speaker 1: am able to separate out the NFL from the college
Speaker 1: and I just remember Winer and Bush together on that team.
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous. So I am going to have a
Speaker 1: hard time picking anybody over Liner and Bush. It's interesting though,
Speaker 1: that we've got this Auburn matchup.
Speaker 2: So Cam Newton, well, you have the single most physically
Speaker 2: talented player perhaps in college football history, in Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: Yea, Cam Newton was ridiculous in his own right. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's got the compliment in Trey Mason,
Speaker 1: certainly not in Anthony Schwartz's exciting, but doesn't rise to
Speaker 1: this level.
Speaker 2: Brown, Cadillac, whoever you want, Ricardo Lewis Nick Fairly.
Speaker 1: If you went Nick Fairly with another member of the
Speaker 1: defensive line over these past few years with Auburn, that's
Speaker 1: compelling to me as well. Because Nick Fairley was borderline unblockable.
Speaker 1: You know that as an Oregon fan, correct, I think
Speaker 1: I gotta go Liner and Bush. I just to me,
Speaker 1: it's no brainer, you gotta go Liner and Bush.
Speaker 2: Well, So then here let me ask, let's let's eliminate
Speaker 2: the duo element. If nobody is matching up on either side,
Speaker 2: Reggie Bush or Cam Newton, if Notre Dame is facing
Speaker 2: Reggie Bush.
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, Well, Oregon did do a fairly good job,
Speaker 2: no pun intended job, of stopping Cam Newton in that
Speaker 2: National Championship game. I'm going to go Reggie Bush as well.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go Ready. It's just an impossible decision.
Speaker 2: It's impossible.
Speaker 1: He's forever going to be like this legend in the
Speaker 1: college game. And not to say Cam wasn't. Cam was incredible. Cam,
Speaker 1: you know, altered the course of Auburn football. But man,
Speaker 1: that Reggie Bush. I sound like an old head now,
Speaker 1: but that that, to me was just like that. If
Speaker 1: anything captured my imagination from a college football standpoint more,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it would be that that Reggie
Speaker 1: Bush team with Liner Man that was and the Rose
Speaker 1: Bowl against Texas. I know we've got Texas on here,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Vincent, you had Jamal Charles, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, it's just it's hard to
Speaker 1: pick anyone over these two.
Speaker 2: So then would you say Trey Mason or Matt Liner?
Speaker 1: Probably Liner? Okay, Yeah, I think it's got to be Liner.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Number eleven, do you agree with that?
Speaker 2: By the way, would you go usc As well?
Speaker 1: No? I would I would go Cam Newton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go Cam Newton because when your quarterback
Speaker 2: is just a more important position. Reggie Bush depended on
Speaker 2: an offensive line. Reggie Bush depended on receivers to block
Speaker 2: down field, and he depended on you know Matt Lioner
Speaker 2: getting him the ball when he would line up as
Speaker 2: a receiver, so he was dependent enough. Whereas Cam Newton
Speaker 2: with the ball in his hands, you think you've stopped
Speaker 2: Auburn for a drive on fourth and four and he
Speaker 2: falls forward for a first down, he has seventy five
Speaker 2: yard speed as we saw that. I mean, you don't
Speaker 2: have to prove out that Cam Newton. What I There
Speaker 2: is something about an unstoppable quarterback that started for one
Speaker 2: year and didn't lose a game and won the Heisman
Speaker 2: and national championship, that is always going to be inherently
Speaker 2: just a little bit scarier than any other position.
Speaker 1: All Right, So I'm making up a new rule in
Speaker 1: the fly here. I'm going to say that we each
Speaker 1: get we each get two golden tickets wherever rides. Okay,
Speaker 1: we can override the other. I'm going to use one
Speaker 1: here to go.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's no strong, strong argument for Cam over Reggie
Speaker 2: Bush unless you just feel that way. You're like, okay,
Speaker 2: that's I agree. Okay, so number eleven is our first one. Okay.
Speaker 1: By the way, with this new rule in mind, would
Speaker 1: you like to go back and alter the course of
Speaker 1: that Wisconsin Baylor matchup. We decided that on a coin
Speaker 1: flip penalty kicks No, Okay, I think I'm gonna pass. Okay,
Speaker 1: moving on, where are we going next?
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay? Number eleven Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans oh
Speaker 2: Man who put up about thirty eight thousand yards against
Speaker 2: Alabama man over the course of a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Nobody is not holding up their end of that duo bargain.
Speaker 1: No, that's an incredible tandem.
Speaker 2: Mike Evans size of an athletic tight end and the
Speaker 2: speed of a receiver, and was unguardable for his time
Speaker 2: at text saying am a Johnny Manzel of course legend
Speaker 2: in a way that very few are in the sport.
Speaker 2: And our second duo number is we've already done number ten,
Speaker 2: our second duo number. Let's regenerate number thirteen former conference mates.
Speaker 1: Texas town Effects Pat Mahoney and Michael Crabtree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the no brainer in terms of is
Speaker 2: that there can't be another player, right, Like, there's not
Speaker 2: another quarterback, there's not another position group, there's not another receiver.
Speaker 2: It's these two.
Speaker 1: There has to be Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think if there's anybody else I'd throw in the mix there.
Speaker 2: I mean, you want to walk on freshman Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2: He was not on the level of Patrick Mahomes by
Speaker 2: the end of Patrick Mahomes's career as a freshman.
Speaker 1: I think, guys, Graham Harrell, that would be the only thing.
Speaker 1: But I feel like you'd probably be doing yourself at
Speaker 1: the service if you went Graham Harrell over Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Now, Graham Harrell was a really strong system air raid quarterback.
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes was a star special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll go Mahomes. I'll go Mahomes. So we've
Speaker 1: got Wow, this is good. We've got Mahomes and Crabtree
Speaker 1: versus Manziell and Evans. To me, the answer feels very
Speaker 1: obvious here, but I want to give you the opportunity
Speaker 1: to go first. I'm going to Dinny Manzellen. It's like
Speaker 1: an no.
Speaker 2: Brain right, Yeah, are toughing, You're comparing two other worldly
Speaker 2: outer space astronaut duos. But there's something about Johnny Manziel's
Speaker 2: specific college career that Patrick Mahomes sort of kept developing
Speaker 2: as a pro. And obviously Johnny manzel did not work
Speaker 2: out as an NFL quarterback for all sorts of reasons,
Speaker 2: but as a college quarterback, the lore and danger of
Speaker 2: Johnny Manziel as incredible as Patrick Mahomes was as a
Speaker 2: college quarterback and as Michael Crabtree was maybe the all
Speaker 2: time greatest freshman receiver of all time. I'm the physical
Speaker 2: scariness of Mike Evans paired with the unpredictability and lethal
Speaker 2: element of Johnny Manziel, at least when he wasn't playing LSU.
Speaker 2: I'm going with the Aggies here.
Speaker 1: I think you got to go Aggies. By the way,
Speaker 1: I've noticed here in your sheet that there's a numbering issue,
Speaker 1: and Georgia is not with a number.
Speaker 2: What's so give them a number.
Speaker 1: We'll give them. Okay, they'll be.
Speaker 2: Here, hold on, heah, here we go, I'll here.
Speaker 1: We'll move, I'll move into the bottom. Okay, they can
Speaker 1: be our play and team at the very end, I'll continue.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're ready for the next random number. Okay,
Speaker 2: here we go. Oh man, I'm actually kind of nervous.
Speaker 2: Number two another. This is an impossible one that we're
Speaker 2: just gonna have to make a ruling on. The duo
Speaker 2: is the Florida Gators?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So you probably if you're gonna go with a quarterback
Speaker 2: as good as Kyle Trask was, there's something that's a
Speaker 2: little bit scarier, even though he's not as good of
Speaker 2: a thrower. About Tim Tebow, it's got to be Tibo
Speaker 2: as that bowl rushing danger, It's got.
Speaker 1: To be t Bow, and it's got to be Percy Harvin.
Speaker 2: Got Well, it's Percy Harvin over Kadarius Tony because Caadarius
Speaker 2: Tony is a Percy Harvin type. Because Percy Harvin is
Speaker 2: the prototype correct in Florida speed annals h. Kyle Pitts
Speaker 2: is a tight end and not like really any other
Speaker 2: tight end we've seen recently. So you that case is
Speaker 2: he's something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's not gonna fall in deaf fiars.
Speaker 1: It's a It's a very strong case for Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: But again, much the way I was a sucker for
Speaker 1: Mariota and d Anthony Thomas. Yeah, de Anthony Thomas falls
Speaker 1: into that Percy Harvin vain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a versatility.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was Percy Harvin after Percy Harvin. Right, So
Speaker 1: I gotta go t Bow and Harvin here as my duo.
Speaker 1: Who else you have here?
Speaker 2: You have to well, I mean you could go like
Speaker 2: Carlos Dunlap and Sharie Floyd. There's guys all over you
Speaker 2: know you Amad Black was terrific at safety. They've had
Speaker 2: this history of incredible corners, you know, like you tease Tabor,
Speaker 2: like all these guys these past twenty years, they've CJ Henderson.
Speaker 2: There are a number of guys that have, especially in
Speaker 2: that defensive backfield. But pure scariness. I mean they won
Speaker 2: a national championship with defensive end. I'm still going right now,
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna be that romantic and go t.
Speaker 1: Bohart, Gotta go Tebo Harvin. All right? Who they going against?
Speaker 2: T Bow and Harvin are facing off against number that
Speaker 2: we already do, number twenty seven. We already did number
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Do we already do number twenty eight? We
Speaker 2: did not. This is another This is a great one.
Speaker 2: This is a heavyweight match.
Speaker 1: This is this is what it's all about right here.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I want to go with my alternate, which
Speaker 2: I think you are going with as well. So just
Speaker 2: because it's too easy to compare the same position duos
Speaker 2: so lsu, I think it's relatively obvious if you're going
Speaker 2: to go offense, it's probably Joe Burrow and Obj Okay.
Speaker 2: I would listen to Leonard Fournette. Those Bama games pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Those Bama games weren't great. You can go Jamar Chase,
Speaker 2: who just won the Blittnikoff, which is I believe award
Speaker 2: they give to pretty good receivers, and they obviously have
Speaker 2: that connection. But in terms of special I mean, was
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase a more special receiver than Obj at LSU?
Speaker 2: Hard to know because he was playing in a much
Speaker 2: better system, much.
Speaker 1: Better system, much more receiver friendly.
Speaker 2: With a better quarterback as well. Yeah, but the natural
Speaker 2: talent of Obj is off the charts.
Speaker 1: It's off the charts. Yeah, that's that whole If you
Speaker 1: go back, and I'm sure LC fans have, if you
Speaker 1: go back and look at the receiving talent that some
Speaker 1: of those teams had that they did not fully harness,
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. It's a total indictment of the old system.
Speaker 2: Now, I also have down here just because it's a
Speaker 2: duo that basically nobody else in the sport can replicate.
Speaker 2: Patrick Peterson and Honey Badger Tyron Matthew.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Honey Badger is another one who captured imagination,
Speaker 1: isn't he.
Speaker 2: So there's the versatility, there's the return game. There's special
Speaker 2: teams lining up in different places on the field. You know,
Speaker 2: it's safety in the slot, you know, slot corner or whatever.
Speaker 2: Nicol he was all over the place, played outside corner.
Speaker 2: Some I also have Devin White and Kwan Alexander.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a case there, but it's not
Speaker 1: nearly as strong as Joe Burrow with either OBJ or
Speaker 1: Fournette or Patrick Peterson with Honey Badger.
Speaker 2: What about Glenn Dorsey and like Tyson Jackson or Sam
Speaker 2: Montgomery or Barhevius Mingo. Glen do was borderline the Kreisman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man, I think I think it's
Speaker 1: one of those first two. It's either Burrow or Fournette,
Speaker 1: OBJ or OBJ or Patrick Peterson in Honey Badger.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Patrick Peterson Honey Badger. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: use my override because really for this, Yeah, I'm for this.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use my override here one because I want
Speaker 2: to get some variety in these matchups. I mean, not.
Speaker 1: Different, pick a different team to get variety from. Man, this,
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna go against Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm asking you what is what is better to
Speaker 2: find l us your football these past twenty years, lethal
Speaker 2: offense or incredible speed and talent on defense?
Speaker 1: I mean over that it's definitely been more a story
Speaker 1: of defense. But the biggest story of all was a
Speaker 1: once in a generation team led by Joe Burrow. Sure,
Speaker 1: if you want to use your override, you can go
Speaker 1: ahead and use it. I would go.
Speaker 2: I would go Burrow and Fournette. If it were me
Speaker 2: Burrow Fournette over Burrow and obij are Chase.
Speaker 1: I would go Burrow Fournette because Burrow was unstoppable and
Speaker 1: so is Fournette. Obij was ridiculous in college, but he
Speaker 1: was not nearly the larger than life figure in college
Speaker 1: as he became the NFL.
Speaker 2: Okay. Leonard Fournette twenty fifteen has thirty one yards against
Speaker 2: Alabama on the ground. Leonard Fournette twy fourteen has nine
Speaker 2: yards on the ground on five carries against Alabama. And
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, which I believe he was beat up
Speaker 2: some had finished his career with three straight double digit
Speaker 2: rushing games a zero against Alabama zero points. He had
Speaker 2: seventeen carries to thirty five yards and then in a
Speaker 2: ten point performance LS losing sixteen to ten, twelve rushes
Speaker 2: for forty yards against Florida Gators. Right, that comes after
Speaker 2: going for two eighty four against Ole miss that stretch.
Speaker 1: Right, So that is an element to me. All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're going with You're gonna go with defense.
Speaker 2: Then I'm going Pat Pete and Honey Badger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, I don't think we can go over
Speaker 1: t Bow and Harvin. I don't see how you could
Speaker 1: pick any duo, especially this duo over t Bow and Harvin.
Speaker 1: T Bow another once in a generation quarterback. The offense
Speaker 1: that he ran with Percy Harvin was fun as hell
Speaker 1: to watch. Honey Badger outstanding, versatile. Again I keep saying
Speaker 1: captured imagination, but he did. With his versatility. Patrick Peterson
Speaker 1: was good. I don't did he have the star power
Speaker 1: of a Tim Tebow.
Speaker 2: That's a different It's not as glamorous a position.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think you gotta go Tbo
Speaker 1: Harvin here. I don't. It seems like a no brainer
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go Tebo Harvin as well. I
Speaker 2: do want to point out one thing that's actually going
Speaker 2: against I guess Patrick Peterson and Honey Badger. These are
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks in twenty twelve or twenty eleven that els
Speaker 2: was facing. I mean it's Tyler Wilson, Aaron Murray, Aj mcceron,
Speaker 2: John Brantley, Connor Shaw, Randall Mackie, Jordan Rodgers, Chris Ralph,
Speaker 2: Chris Ralph. Now Elsie wasn't going against Jared Lee, but
Speaker 2: in some ways they were Clint Moseley, Morgan Newton. Okay,
Speaker 2: so not a quarterback heavy era in the sees. Okay,
Speaker 2: twenty twelve we do get Johnny Manzel, you get doctor Bo,
Speaker 2: Tyler Russell, more, Jordan Rodgers, he finally get Zach Mettenberger
Speaker 2: at LSU, Connor Shaw, you get casual dress, James Franklin
Speaker 2: entering into the league. But I think it's yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it's it's t bow and person.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be it's gotta be. All right, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to break this up into two parts. I hope
Speaker 1: you're okay, is that true? The show? The show we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to break up.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we'll go through the first round. Now, we'll
Speaker 2: do the first round. Yeah, subsequent rounds. Okay, so we
Speaker 2: need random numbers, right.
Speaker 1: Random numbers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, here we go number.
Speaker 1: Four Penn State. Oh this is good.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this is There are a lot of options
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball here, Yes you want
Speaker 2: to go, Dan Connor, Paul pud Lesny, pause Lesny, Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: I there's options.
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go. It's either Michael Robinson and
Speaker 1: Saquon or Trace in Saquon and I could probably be
Speaker 1: convinced either way. But who is their opponent? Please don't
Speaker 1: tell me Notre Dame please?
Speaker 2: In terms, uh, well, the random number, it's gonna come up.
Speaker 2: It's coming up as twenty two Texas. Vince Young, Jamal Charles.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is good. This is good.
Speaker 2: Dan, what tone you have?
Speaker 1: I think it's gotta be.
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about when we mentioned Cam Newton, you're
Speaker 2: talking about the the unmatched physical talent Vince Young is
Speaker 2: in that conversation.
Speaker 1: I of course I know, of course, I think it's
Speaker 1: got to be Trace and Saquon. If I'm picking, I
Speaker 1: think I go Trace and Okay, defend this point, Defend
Speaker 1: what point? Defend why he's like the winningest quarterback in
Speaker 1: program history. So you're taking Trace mcsorlely over Vince Young. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, I'm taking over Michael Robbins. Michael Robins,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking I'm not taking Pinstate over Vince Young. No.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Michael Robinson ended his career probably on a
Speaker 2: higher notes with who I think it was. Galen Hall
Speaker 2: was the Penn State offensive coordinator back then, so not
Speaker 2: nearly as open a system. Even though it was Ricky
Speaker 2: Ronnie Right who finished out Trace mcsorley's career. Michael Robinson, scarier,
Speaker 2: runner bigger, was eventually an NFL fullback, similar passing numbers
Speaker 2: his senior year in mcsorley's final season, but yeah, Trace,
Speaker 2: The height of Trace McSorley as a quarterback was certainly
Speaker 2: higher than Michael Robinson's and Saquon Barkley seems like the
Speaker 2: most physically impressive Penn State player of these past twenty years.
Speaker 2: Twenty years that it's seen an incredible number of you know,
Speaker 2: guys up front on defense.
Speaker 1: Defensive talent. Yeah, yeah, for sure, it's.
Speaker 2: It's Sakwan's the guy that pops.
Speaker 1: Saquon pops, but nobody pops more than Vince Young. But
Speaker 1: Vince Young did at Texas. He single handedly won a
Speaker 1: national championship for Texas. Wanhorns had a good team around
Speaker 1: him set out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what single handedly, but that game
Speaker 2: he was a force of nature for suit I will
Speaker 2: the team willed.
Speaker 1: Them to victory in that game. Yeah, in the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 1: So I look, I don't care who you pair Vince
Speaker 1: Young with. Vince Young's got to be got to be
Speaker 1: moving on to the next round here, Jackson Shipley, sure,
Speaker 1: any of the Shipleys doesn't matter. I don't care. It's
Speaker 1: Vince Young.
Speaker 2: So interestingly, Jamal Charles like his his freshman year one
Speaker 2: hundred nineteen carries, sophomore year one hundred and fifty six carries,
Speaker 2: and his sophomore year wasn't as good, and he was
Speaker 2: probably most effective yet you know, sixteen hundred yards, but
Speaker 2: his per carry average as a receiver, he was really
Speaker 2: good as a freshman. He was almost more effective as
Speaker 2: a rotation guy, even though he did put up those
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred yards. He's I mean, we're still talking about
Speaker 2: what Cedric Benson as an option, see Benz. There's been
Speaker 2: a lot of good Texas running backs over the past
Speaker 2: twenty years receivers. I don't know Kwan Cosby, Jordan Shipley,
Speaker 2: and they haven't popped nearly as much. And Ricky Williams
Speaker 2: was I think as finally it was ninety eight, so
Speaker 2: he doesn't count. So yeah, I'm gonna go Vince Young
Speaker 2: in Texas. In this one, there were some disappearing acts
Speaker 2: from Saquan. Again, he is playing a position that's dependent
Speaker 2: on the success of others, whereas Vince Young is the success.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, are you going next? All right, we
Speaker 1: are going number.
Speaker 2: Nine?
Speaker 1: Have we done? We had nine? Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, We're going number thirty one.
Speaker 1: Thirty one is Missoo with Chase Daniel and Jeremy Macklin,
Speaker 1: which is a real underrated pairing here. This is a
Speaker 1: good pairing. Now.
Speaker 2: This is also a Mazoo program that has had some
Speaker 2: electric talent along the defensive line. Sure, high high draft picks,
Speaker 2: high level of success there. So there are duos there
Speaker 2: that I don't know. I don't know how you feel
Speaker 2: about some of those guys.
Speaker 1: It's got to be Chase Daniel and Jeremy Macklin. They
Speaker 1: were ridiculous in college. Has to be, has to be.
Speaker 2: Even over casual jests James Franklin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, of course not.
Speaker 2: Of course, Daves Franklin was very good.
Speaker 1: It wasn't this good? All right?
Speaker 2: Number they're facing off against number sixteen. Another difficult decision.
Speaker 2: Whoa Florida state?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you think this is difficult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well the problem is Derwin James and Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 2: kind of played the same position, kind of a slot corner, rover, safety,
Speaker 2: outside linebacker when they needed to be in certain cases.
Speaker 2: Because those two guys, just in terms of physical talent
Speaker 2: are just off the charts, So you could I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't I mean, I guess it's Jamis and Dalvin.
Speaker 1: It's got to be Jamison Dalvin Dan got to beeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, they competed against Oregon for a
Speaker 2: long time, that duo, so you got to hand it
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's Jamis and Dalvin. Moving
Speaker 1: on here, this is a no brainer. Say what you
Speaker 1: want about Jamis, but as a college quarterback, he was just.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, that twenty thirteen offense was all unstaple time, Yeah, unstoppable.
Speaker 1: Okay, next matchup?
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, that was was that the first matchup
Speaker 2: or the second matchup. Was it the first duo or the.
Speaker 1: Sum I'm saying it's got to be Jamis over Missoo.
Speaker 2: Jamis over Missu. Oh yeah, yeah, of course. Okay, sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm blanked on that. That's how much Missoo left an
Speaker 2: imprint on me. Number twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Number twenty nine is Tennessee. Yeah wow, Okay.
Speaker 2: So I would say they they have an all time
Speaker 2: popping running back in Alvin Kamara, but they didn't necessarily
Speaker 2: use him as often as they should have. And I
Speaker 2: don't think they have a quarterback who would compliment Alvin
Speaker 2: Kamara's talent. Depending on how you feel about Josh Dobbs
Speaker 2: or Jonathan Crompton, I don't know, but I don't think
Speaker 2: they have that quarterback. So I'm going to go on
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, and I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with Albert Haynesworth and Derek Barnett.
Speaker 1: Albert Haynesworth one of the all time great yes SEC players.
Speaker 2: A friend of mine tried to block Albert Haynesworth because
Speaker 2: he played offensive line for Vanderbilt and it went poorly,
Speaker 2: very very poorly.
Speaker 1: One of the all time greats. So it makes sense
Speaker 1: that Hainsworth would be in here.
Speaker 2: Is that they've had like, they've got guys who popped,
Speaker 2: Like I wanted to find a corner who would compliment
Speaker 2: Eric Berry, but I couldn't. I couldn't zero in on
Speaker 2: a guy that I felt like was worthy of. That
Speaker 2: feels good, Hainsworth and Barnett. Okay, so tennessee Haynesworth and
Speaker 2: Barnett taking on. Let's see if we got a number
Speaker 2: we haven't done. Have we done? Number ten?
Speaker 1: We have done that?
Speaker 2: We have? Have we done number eighteen? We have not?
Speaker 1: This is this is a sneaky pairing right here.
Speaker 2: All right, We've got Mark Herzlck, who I believe was
Speaker 2: an outside linebacker. I double checked this, Mark hers Lick,
Speaker 2: great story, great college linebacker. Luke Keikley. Yeah, perhaps the
Speaker 2: best inside or middle linebacker of the modern era on
Speaker 2: both levels.
Speaker 1: This would also be like a real NBA jam duo
Speaker 1: right here. It feels like this would be a real pairing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I I feel like you gotta go with
Speaker 1: Hertzlig and Keighley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go hers Licking.
Speaker 1: I feel like you gotta right, like two awesome linebackers.
Speaker 2: You know, the Keigley numbers are off the charts. Hers
Speaker 2: Lick was really good and obviously got sick. But man,
Speaker 2: it's it's a question of did Albert Hainsworth play inside
Speaker 2: in a dominant fashion that was unlike what Luke Keickley did.
Speaker 2: Because Derek Barnett also set records, was incredible as a
Speaker 2: past rusher, and Albert Haynsworth was borderline unblockable at the
Speaker 2: level of Luke Keighley. I don't know. I mean, in
Speaker 2: terms of scariness, Luke Keickley was going to shut you down,
Speaker 2: knew what you were going to do, and was going
Speaker 2: to make the.
Speaker 1: Taxle qu.
Speaker 2: Right. You weren't breaking Luke keigley tackles, But then again,
Speaker 2: you might not survive in Albert Hainsworth's tech. So actually
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Hainesworth from pure fear, if that
Speaker 2: is a sense that we are going to include in this,
Speaker 2: I would say I'm as scared of Albert Hainesworth. This
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with his you know, pro run
Speaker 2: ins with penalties and suspensions, not seeing what he was
Speaker 2: able to do in terms of breaking up the interior
Speaker 2: of an offensive line. Luke Keigley was is incredible. The
Speaker 2: height of Albert Hainsworth was essentially as scary as pretty
Speaker 2: much any interior defensive lineman. I mean, you have Sue,
Speaker 2: you have all sorts of players who are crazy good.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm gonna go with Tennessee here. Actually interesting,
Speaker 2: are you going to BC? I would go BC.
Speaker 1: I am not going to use my override here.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're going going twenty nine Tennessee. We're going Tennessee. Okay,
Speaker 2: next number one?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, no, Notre Dame. Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Do you want the offensive line due or do you
Speaker 2: want the linebacker Duell?
Speaker 1: Wow? Well, so here's the thing. Which offensive line duo
Speaker 1: are we going? Or? Do you want?
Speaker 2: Who would be the quarterback? Would be Brady Quin would
Speaker 2: be Jimmy Class.
Speaker 1: We're not doing any quarterbacks with Notre game. Okay.
Speaker 2: That may there have been good receivers though, even Michael
Speaker 2: Floyd Golden Tate, there have been very good receivers, really
Speaker 2: good tight ends.
Speaker 1: There have been, for sure. But I think I think
Speaker 1: it's clear here that you either need to go with
Speaker 1: it's got to be some combo of Quentin Nelson with
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley or Mike McGlinchey, all of the these guys have
Speaker 1: been really high draft picks. Ronnie Stanley I think is
Speaker 1: the highest paid offensive lineman, the highest paid tackle in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Quentin Nelson is a perennial Pro bowler, and
Speaker 1: Mike mcglinchy was drafted ninth overall a few picks after
Speaker 1: Quintin Nelson when they got picked and played in a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So maybe hasn't quite gotten the NFL accolades,
Speaker 1: but has been very very good. This is though a
Speaker 1: situation where we have to make sure that the NFL
Speaker 1: prowess doesn't seep into are our grading of this. But
Speaker 1: it's unique in that there aren't a whole lot of
Speaker 1: offensive line combos that we could cite correct to me.
Speaker 2: I mean, Florida State has some good options there. Way
Speaker 2: back when I think Quentin Nelson pops on like any
Speaker 2: other player on this list, and we were talking about
Speaker 2: Manta Teo Heisman finalist in Jalen Smith, you know, all
Speaker 2: American caliber.
Speaker 1: The other the other names that we have here, we
Speaker 1: have Manti Tao and Jalen Smith.
Speaker 2: Right, Manta Teo Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith remains underrated.
Speaker 2: An all time athletic and successful Notre Dame linebacker.
Speaker 1: So good, so so freaking good. His career the way
Speaker 1: it ended in the bowl game with the injury, his
Speaker 1: comeback story to now be a prominent productive member of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys is like ridiculous. And Manti Tayo, look the
Speaker 1: story of Manti Tao at Notre Dame. That should not
Speaker 1: be overlooked either. Manti Tao talk about capturing imagination. Good lord,
Speaker 1: that's there are no greater examples of that in a
Speaker 1: literal sense. Oh was awesome in college football was also
Speaker 1: very very good. Yeah, So we've got options here with
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Where's the fear? Where's the fear from you? Are you've
Speaker 2: you've rooted for both of these duos? Like, would you
Speaker 2: rather run into or would you rather try to run
Speaker 2: by either of these line? Or would you rather try
Speaker 2: to bull rush Quentin Nelson?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do either. I think the answer
Speaker 1: here is mcglinchy and Nelson.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm on the same page. I think I think
Speaker 2: Nelson is the single scariest person here.
Speaker 1: Yet we don't have a whole lot of offensive line
Speaker 1: combos like this, so I think that in and of
Speaker 1: itself is unique. You gotta go with those two who
Speaker 1: are they, who are they going against?
Speaker 2: Let's do our number randomizer and hope that we haven't
Speaker 2: No Number thirty thirty is pit. This is a great
Speaker 2: literal matchup pit.
Speaker 1: Wow. Pit. Okay, So the obvious one is obviously Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, who was every bit as good in college
Speaker 1: as he is now in the pros?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who do we want to pair Aaron Donald with?
Speaker 2: So I have Jabal shared he was an All American
Speaker 2: and longtime NFL player. Sure, but essentially there's nobody you
Speaker 2: could put next to Aaron Donald and be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're relatively on the same level of scariness. So that
Speaker 2: that was the best I could do. But in terms
Speaker 2: of college football scariness over the past twenty years, it's
Speaker 2: hard to have that conversation without Aaron Donald. Now we're
Speaker 2: seeing Aaron essentially now Aaron Donald against Quentin Nelson.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good matchup that could actually happen too, right,
Speaker 1: It probably has.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Colts have played the Rams.
Speaker 1: I think the fact that you've got two first round
Speaker 1: anchors on the left side of that line for Notre
Speaker 1: Dame in mcglinchy and Nelson. The height of that to me,
Speaker 1: feels much higher than Donald and sheered. However, I mean
Speaker 1: was a second the second round pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're not a.
Speaker 1: Really good matchup. I'm gonna go Mcglinchyan Nelson and I'm
Speaker 1: going to use my I'm gonna use my override if
Speaker 1: you decide you want to go pit.
Speaker 2: Wow, you're dictating. Oka's right. Well, ye, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: pit then. So it says you'll lose an over ride.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, showed my cards too early, but
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2: It's okay, all right. I think we've got a couple.
Speaker 1: More, right, Yeah, we got we got more here that
Speaker 1: we can do.
Speaker 2: Okay. Uh, number eleven, I think we've done. No, we
Speaker 2: haven't done. Number eleven.
Speaker 1: This is a sneaky good one too.
Speaker 2: This is sort of an exception to the rule that
Speaker 2: I'm gonna count. It was a submission and I said,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'll allow it.
Speaker 1: So it's not Shady McCoy and Aaron Donald, but no,
Speaker 1: it's Darren McFadden, Oh wow, and Felix Jones. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Darren McFadden playing quarterback. Enough the wildcat for a
Speaker 2: bit of a technicality, but it works. I think it
Speaker 2: was about two thousand and seven. I mean, you can
Speaker 2: go with whoever you want to go, Ryan Mallet or
Speaker 2: Tyler Wilson, that's fine. And Darren McFadden. I think it
Speaker 2: probably has to me McFadden in the conversation. Yes, there's
Speaker 2: no better duo. I don't think across Arkansast football. They
Speaker 2: had some interesting defensive linemen in the twenty fourteen and
Speaker 2: obviously there were good receivers there during the Patrino time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Dearren McFadden pops upon pops. So we'll go
Speaker 2: to mc McFadden and Felix. Now, if you want to
Speaker 2: change Auburn to Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams, you're welcome to.
Speaker 2: But actually, no, they didn't run wildly. Was when Ronnie
Speaker 2: Brown was with the Dolphins, right right, That's when they
Speaker 2: was a wildcat quarterback. Okay, So yeah, we're I'm going
Speaker 2: Felix Jones dere mcfatten here. I'm allowing it. It's my show.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Next we need an opponent.
Speaker 1: Next topic, Yes, number twenty.
Speaker 2: You know I've already done that. Yeahn't make this number twenty.
Speaker 1: Ooh Miama with Ed Reid in Entrell Roll yeah, that
Speaker 1: is interesting.
Speaker 2: Andrel roll all over the field a bunch of different positions.
Speaker 2: Of course, i'd read all time, all time, all time safety.
Speaker 1: This has to be Miami. This has to be Miami
Speaker 1: with Ed Reid and Ontreil roll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, too much speed. Those defenses were too good and
Speaker 2: too NFL laden, and Ed Reid was at the heart
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: These guys were preposterous at both I like that word. Yeah,
Speaker 1: both levels. They were so so good. And it's interesting
Speaker 1: because we've got a defensive back pairing here with Miami.
Speaker 1: We've also got a running back pairing in a sense
Speaker 1: with McFadden and Felix, which is a fun tandem. But
Speaker 1: I gotta go read and roll. I just it's a
Speaker 1: no brainer.
Speaker 2: Same page. Okay, all right, next number generation, number twenty five.
Speaker 2: We've got a scary combo here.
Speaker 1: Arizona State with Will Sutton and Tarrell Suggs.
Speaker 2: Terrell Suggs, Will Sutton. Okay, do you have any just
Speaker 2: initial thoughts about the two of them? Will Sutton PAC
Speaker 2: twelve Defensive Player of the Year and twenty I don't
Speaker 2: remember thirteen twelve somewhere in there or both. It looks
Speaker 2: like both first team All American twenty thirteen Consensus All
Speaker 2: American twenty twelve. Seems like a pretty good college career.
Speaker 1: I remember more of Terrell Suggs as a Raven and
Speaker 1: he was scary good.
Speaker 2: I went back and watched Terrell Suggs ASU highlights and
Speaker 2: it was like that, but against like a Washington State tackle.
Speaker 2: So imagine what Terrell Suggs was doing.
Speaker 1: So we didn't got well.
Speaker 2: I mean, Terrell Suggs was an outside linebacker, you know,
Speaker 2: edge guy for the Ravens, but he was a hand
Speaker 2: down defensive end.
Speaker 1: Kay, the sun Devils. Okay, so it could go perfect.
Speaker 1: We could if we could figure out a way to
Speaker 1: get two running backs in there, we could figure out
Speaker 1: a way to get Vonte's perfect in there for a.
Speaker 2: With an outside linebacker like a rushback. Yeah, I desperately
Speaker 2: wanted to put Suggs in perfect together.
Speaker 1: But can we do that?
Speaker 2: And watch? Can we went back and watch? His hand
Speaker 2: was in the ground. He was a true end all right?
Speaker 1: All right? Fine?
Speaker 2: I had that issue with in the other direction, with
Speaker 2: David Pollack and Georgia, like I didn't. I couldn't find
Speaker 2: anybody even approaching how good David Pollack was on the
Speaker 2: inside of that defensive line. Good players, good players, David
Speaker 2: Pollack all all timer in Georgia. That was very difficult
Speaker 2: for me. So I had to go another direction with
Speaker 2: the Georgia players. So Will Sutton and Terrell Suggs against Nope,
Speaker 2: we don't have that number. This is really good audio.
Speaker 2: Don't have that number. Do we have number twenty six?
Speaker 1: Nope?
Speaker 2: Do we have number fifteen? Iowa, See, here's a good
Speaker 2: offensive line duo.
Speaker 1: This is an interesting duo, and it's very befitting a WIO,
Speaker 1: is it not. Of course we've got here.
Speaker 2: And I like the matchup. I like the defensive line
Speaker 2: against the offensive line because we can use our imaginations
Speaker 2: a little bit better. For a head to head back matchup.
Speaker 1: We've got the worse and Shurf like Surf and Turf
Speaker 1: versus Will Sutton and Tarrell Sugs Dan Suggs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wurfs was incredible, I believe this year for the Bucks,
Speaker 2: but more importantly he was amazing for Iowa. And of
Speaker 2: course Brandon Schurff was just an animal. So first round
Speaker 2: picks alike.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if I have actor,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Who's pants, Who's who? Makes your pants tightened, tie probab,
Speaker 2: who would you?
Speaker 1: Probably the Iowa offensive line mans was so mean, that
Speaker 1: very mean, so mean. If you would find a way
Speaker 1: to put Vante's perfect in there and Terrell Suggs, I
Speaker 1: would go, or Terrell Sugs that keep saying it wrong.
Speaker 1: I would definitely go.
Speaker 3: Au well Son's really good. On the inside of that line,
Speaker 3: I think I might go the Iowa dudes and those
Speaker 3: dudes pop, They're dangerous, They're nasty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we got okay.
Speaker 2: I don't feel good about it through. That was tough,
Speaker 2: but that's.
Speaker 1: Where I'm going to eight nine, and we basically have
Speaker 1: five more matchups to do. All right, let's throat to
Speaker 1: do with Georgia because they were the odd man out,
Speaker 1: but let's work through.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do this at random. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do the number randomizer. I'm just gonna do the
Speaker 2: Dan randomizer. Let's go teams with the same colors. Essentially,
Speaker 2: Michigan against cal Cal.
Speaker 1: Has a sneaky good pairing here, don't they I've got
Speaker 1: a great pairing or are they mean? Great two pairings
Speaker 1: if you want to look at it. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: think we would agree that Michigan is Dinard Robinson and
Speaker 1: Brayln Edwards offensively.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about Mike Heart, I
Speaker 2: don't know how you feel about Jake, but what a
Speaker 2: very good career. I don't know how you feel. Mean,
Speaker 2: they've had decent receivers these past twenty years, Mario Manningham,
Speaker 2: but Brayllen Edwards seems to rise above some droppy issues,
Speaker 2: drops the issues as well. But Denard Robinson is probably
Speaker 2: the offensive player who run literally runs away from this
Speaker 2: conversation in terms of scariness. So you had to find
Speaker 2: a running back a receiver that to me, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, Brayllen Edwards and then defensively for Michigan, I'm
Speaker 2: willing to have a conversation about you know, we're Shaun
Speaker 2: Gary and Chase Winovich or Jabrill Peppers and Devin Bush.
Speaker 2: There there are options there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're not gonna go over Dinard. Can't go
Speaker 1: over Nard Dog, Nard Dog. He's in that conversation with
Speaker 1: some of these other guys, the Reggie Bushes of the
Speaker 1: world who just were larger than life in the college.
Speaker 2: And Denard Robinson in that rich rot offense. Yeah, mm,
Speaker 2: gotta do it. A pretty insane combo.
Speaker 1: So here's what's interesting about the Cal side. Yeah, who
Speaker 1: do you pick on the Cal side? You've got a
Speaker 1: couple obvious ones in aarons Au sorry, Aaron Rodgers, Marshawn Lynch,
Speaker 1: and Shawn Jackson. Yeah, I'm assuming we can't go Marshawn
Speaker 1: and dust Shawn?
Speaker 2: Can we We cannot. And here's the thing though about
Speaker 2: Marshawn Lynch. He was a really good Cal running back.
Speaker 2: But there was a they had a series of really
Speaker 2: good running it did not even like it did. Probably
Speaker 2: Javid Best was their most incredible home rum threat. You know,
Speaker 2: JJ Arrington who was really good, and Justin Fcett who
Speaker 2: was excellent. But yeah, there is something. I mean, if
Speaker 2: we're playing the scariness element of this, Marshawn Lynch is
Speaker 2: the answer there.
Speaker 1: I think it's Marshawn.
Speaker 2: So are you going Aaron Rodgers and Marshawn? I'm going on,
Speaker 2: I gotta go Donard and Braylin. So at a certain
Speaker 2: point you're saying Braylon or Marshawn, then that's fine.
Speaker 1: I just think Dinard Robinson is far and away the
Speaker 1: answer here. It could be Denard Robinson against.
Speaker 2: Like three did he hurt. You did Denard Robinson hurt
Speaker 2: you does a Michigan in a Notre Dame in Penn State.
Speaker 1: He did? Ok Yeah he did?
Speaker 2: So then I mean that's first person experience. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll accept it. I'm not going to override it.
Speaker 1: Louisville, this is so good. This is going to be
Speaker 1: so tough with.
Speaker 2: Louisville, Lamar Jackson DeVante Parker, who made incredible player after
Speaker 2: incredible play, right, and then we'll go with somebody equally
Speaker 2: athletic at quarterback, Eli Man And I mean, you can
Speaker 2: choose whoever you want here at receiver for ole Miss
Speaker 2: because they've had I mean want Lakwan Treadwell. A J.
Speaker 2: Brown became metcalf More. A J.
Speaker 1: Brown was really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah wea go ahead J. Brown? Yeah, Man Lawan Treadwell
Speaker 2: though physically if we're talking about scariness, well.
Speaker 1: We had a sound for Lakwan. Maybe you go him
Speaker 1: with Quantasaurus Rex. Right. I just don't know how you
Speaker 1: can take anybody over Lamar. We're gonna come to a
Speaker 1: point in this competition where we get a little bit
Speaker 1: deeper and it's gonna end up being like Dinard Robinson
Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson, and we're gonna have to have a
Speaker 1: car a very hard conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're also talking about an old Miss
Speaker 2: offensive line with some big names. Sure, we're talking about
Speaker 2: old Miss defensive line with some candija to it.
Speaker 1: The whole land Shark thing you have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the secondary was great.
Speaker 1: I just it's got to be Lamar.
Speaker 2: Okay, put them forward where it is. Okay, let's go.
Speaker 2: These are sort of opposites, but not really opposites. Stanford
Speaker 2: and Andrew Luck with Christian McCaffrey by his side. Keep
Speaker 2: something in mind about Andrew Luck. Everybody thinks about, Oh,
Speaker 2: he was so subrebral and had this great arm and
Speaker 2: was himself changing the plays since like day one, and
Speaker 2: making calls and shifts and doing everything given more responsibility
Speaker 2: than the average quarterback. Early on in his career, Andrew
Speaker 2: Luck loved running over people. Andrew Luck was not afraid
Speaker 2: to drop a shoulder if the pocket broke down and
Speaker 2: he started running. Now, Christian McCaffrey goes without saying, I
Speaker 2: don't think Iowa touched him in the first half of
Speaker 2: that Rose Bowl. All apologies to Hawk fans, but Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffrey another level in terms of all purpose college football
Speaker 2: players with that just all time all purpose, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to go with Andrew Luck's father's school, West Virginia. Now, okay,
Speaker 2: the obvious duo is Paw White Steve Slayton, because they
Speaker 2: were together. We saw it, we saw them exist as
Speaker 2: you know this, Yin and Yang. But Tavon Austin never
Speaker 2: played running back and then decided to play running back
Speaker 2: because they didn't have any the years, didn't have any
Speaker 2: against I believe Oklahoma and ran for nine hundred and
Speaker 2: forty four yards that night.
Speaker 1: I think I think Tavon's still playing in the NFL,
Speaker 1: isn't he?
Speaker 2: That sounds right.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's even possible. At this point,
Speaker 1: it's like eight years free agent, Yeah, seven years in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's only thirty. Good lord, we're getting old. Okay.
Speaker 2: So we've got two all purpose great players in Tavon
Speaker 2: Austin Christian McCaffrey, and we've got a scary ass runner
Speaker 2: in Pat White who was able to make plays with
Speaker 2: his arm as well. And Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be Stanford and that you
Speaker 1: should not imply from that statement that I did not
Speaker 1: enjoy the freaking hell out of watching those West Virginia
Speaker 1: teams with Pat White. Steeve Well, first, so we got
Speaker 1: you going Slaton or Austin. I probably go Slaton.
Speaker 2: Or wild card. David Sills cut a lot of touchdowns,
Speaker 2: got a lot of touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I'd probably go Pat White and Slaton. Okay, and I
Speaker 1: think I got to go Andrew Luck and Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: Man in the pairing in the overall matchup, I think so.
Speaker 2: I think so too, And I Taevon Austin will always
Speaker 2: hold a special place in my heart as a West
Speaker 2: Virginia Mountaineer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, they had some stupid special players there. Weel divine.
Speaker 2: So this is this is interesting.
Speaker 1: This is interesting the way that this is broken down,
Speaker 1: because the last five teams, we're gonna have to figure
Speaker 1: out again something to do with Georgia. We'll stick them
Speaker 1: on one of the other winners. Well, I mean it's
Speaker 1: in a play in. Yeah, I guess Georgia. The combo
Speaker 1: is depending on how you feel. I mean, I couldn't
Speaker 1: find an interior defensive lineman to put next to David Pollock.
Speaker 1: So then from that point I said, okay, we're doing
Speaker 1: rokeland Smith and Jarvis Jones inside outside linebacker. That's pretty
Speaker 1: friggin scary, right, Or are you just going the obvious
Speaker 1: offensive well at least quarterback to receiver in Matt Stafford
Speaker 1: A J.
Speaker 2: Green. I guess depending. I mean they've had a lot
Speaker 2: of really good running backs as well. Nick chob Sonya,
Speaker 2: Michelle No Sea Mareno got real real strong dudes. I
Speaker 2: think you gotta go Stafford, right, I think you go
Speaker 2: Stafford Green, Stafford A. J.
Speaker 1: Green.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so Stafford David Green in an all
Speaker 2: quarterback wild cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, so Stafford.
Speaker 2: And so we'll find a place to insert them. That'll
Speaker 2: be our wild card insertion, where we just eliminate a
Speaker 2: team and replace them with Georgia in the next round.
Speaker 1: So, okay, let's go Oklahoma with Kyler Murray and Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 2: Okay, or bib I was gonna say why Kyler over Baker?
Speaker 2: And it's perfectly reasonable to say so. But I don't
Speaker 2: both really strong runners. Kyler probably, I mean definitely faster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will let you pick. I don't discriminate here
Speaker 1: between the two. Do you want Baker? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: gotta be ap all day. But who do we want out,
Speaker 1: who do we want alongside him?
Speaker 2: So they each play in a playoff semi and a
Speaker 2: losing efforts. Kyler with a slow start but made some
Speaker 2: incredible plays against Alabama and then Baker Mayfield double overtime
Speaker 2: loss to Georgia. I'm just from pure scariness, I'm going Kyler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, We've got Oklahoma with Kyler and Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 2: By the way, you're going Adrian Peterson over a very
Speaker 2: long list of incredible pass catchers Ryan bros lamb Sterling,
Speaker 2: Shan sure for Jamaine Gresham. Yeah, gotta go Adrian Peterson. Okay,
Speaker 2: we will pair them up against Alabama. Okay, this is impossible.
Speaker 2: It's I don't know how you select a defensive duo
Speaker 2: for Alabama. Yeah, if you're going to suggest any defensive duo,
Speaker 2: you can select from a combination of like seventeen players.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: If you want to say, Jonathan Allen and Quinn Williams, Okay, great, bad.
Speaker 2: You cannot make a strong argument, you know, Marlon Humphrey,
Speaker 2: Miika Fitzpatrick, Eddie Jackson, Haha, Clinton Dix and like any
Speaker 2: of these guys, I'm okay with this, you know. Patrick
Speaker 2: Sartan most recently Mark barn all of these guys. If
Speaker 2: you want to go, Orlando McClain and what's his name,
Speaker 2: the outside linebacker on the Patriots down to High Town,
Speaker 2: all these guys, Like, I'm okay with any of them,
Speaker 2: but I think they'll cancel each other out, the excellence,
Speaker 2: cancels each other out, cancels you know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it on defense.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 1: I really don't. And so the question is, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: either going to do You're going to pick two names
Speaker 1: from a hat. On defense, you.
Speaker 2: Aret Ruben Foster. Okay, we can go with any great yeah,
Speaker 2: or you could go on the offensive side. And on
Speaker 2: the offensive side, I guess the quarterback would have to
Speaker 2: be Tua. It could be to It could be Mac Jones,
Speaker 2: it could be a Ja mcchaerron. I think what probably
Speaker 2: isn't Greg McElroy. It's not Greg McElroy, No, probably not
Speaker 2: with John Parker Wilson, probably not.
Speaker 1: Him, and then who else is it? Because they've had
Speaker 1: an incredible, just roster of ridiculous wide receivers, the running
Speaker 1: backs have been equally as absurd.
Speaker 2: So you you have you rooted for a team in
Speaker 2: the postseason against both uh like guys. I mean, whether
Speaker 2: it's Julio Jones, whether it's Devonte Smith, whether it's Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 2: whether it's Amari Cooper, who is if I forgot about
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper who puts the fear of life into your
Speaker 2: brain as Notre Dame takes the field on defense against Alabama.
Speaker 2: Is it DeVante Smith? Is it Julio?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's either Julio or Amari Cooper.
Speaker 2: Oh, Okay, Davante Smith almost singularly being noted he did
Speaker 2: three months ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I just it doesn't matter you pick any
Speaker 1: of these guys. And the thing is, I still don't
Speaker 1: know if would you take any combo here from Alabama
Speaker 1: over Adrian Peterson, Kyler Murray.
Speaker 2: Because that's what it comes down to. No, not necessarily, Okay.
Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson at his absolute apex was as physically dominant
Speaker 2: and scary a running back as we've seen. What I
Speaker 2: don't know what his measurable measurables were as a freshman
Speaker 2: in college. Well, he was one of the two to
Speaker 2: two ten whatever it was.
Speaker 1: He was one of the guys who if they would
Speaker 1: have let him, he'd have gone pro yes, instead of
Speaker 1: going to playing college, which he probably could have not
Speaker 1: most people can't, but he probably could have swung it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I I have a hard time picking almost
Speaker 1: anybody over Peterson and Kyler. But if we're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: it's gonna come from the Bama's side because they're just
Speaker 1: so loaded all the time. You get to pick the two,
Speaker 1: I'll let you pick the two.
Speaker 2: Uh. Just for the record, we didn't mention Heisman winner
Speaker 2: mark ingram or Heisman winner. It's Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: It's an embarrassment of riches. Right, so you pick, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I am going to go.
Speaker 2: Kyler Peterson. I'm doing it over double first round pick. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: your your entry Alabama?
Speaker 1: Yeah what but who for Albama? Oh? For who am
Speaker 1: I going to pick from Alabama?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's your duo.
Speaker 2: To uh and Davante. There's an effortlessness that is so
Speaker 2: scary that a.
Speaker 1: Little bit of recency bias there, it's okays, a total
Speaker 1: recency bias.
Speaker 2: Fine, and it's a much more wide old you know
Speaker 2: the Sark offense. If you know Julio Jones were in
Speaker 2: the sark offense. What are we talking about? So, man,
Speaker 2: I don't know who is the who is the offensive
Speaker 2: coordinat Really it was like a Doug nuss Meyer and Jamackawayne.
Speaker 2: That was that era of Alabama football. Right, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna stick with Davante And I know it's recency, but
Speaker 2: it's you know, the the scariest guy is the small guy, right,
Speaker 2: It's it's the guy with that looks like he has
Speaker 2: nothing to lose and just isn't backing down from the
Speaker 2: big dude. It's you know, it's the Mangos taking down
Speaker 2: the Cobra. I'm gonna I'm just I'm gonna go with
Speaker 2: Devonte Smith and Tua.
Speaker 1: Okay, and you're taking you're taking them over Oklahoma or.
Speaker 2: No, I'm taking Kyler and Adrian Peterson. I think that's
Speaker 2: I think that's the combo. It's impossible, Like I cannot
Speaker 2: make a strong case for it.
Speaker 1: There is no.
Speaker 2: Strong, relevant, sensical case for either of these over each other.
Speaker 2: Kyler was smaller, but Monty Smith is smaller.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, then that brings us to Ohio State
Speaker 1: and Clemson.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: I think the obvious pairing on the Clemson side and
Speaker 1: I know you got Nuke Hopkins here. I loved him.
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins at Clemson, I just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: feel like he was kind of like a different order
Speaker 1: of magnitude. I think it's Sammy Watkins and Sean Deshaun Watson, okay.
Speaker 1: Or it could be Trevor Lawrence too, that's the other thing, wow.
Speaker 2: Or could be Christian Wilkins and Vic Beasley. I mean
Speaker 2: Vic Beasley all American. Christian Wilkins incredible, can do the splits? Right?
Speaker 2: Have we shown enough love to a giant and scary
Speaker 2: defensive front combination? I don't know if we have definitely
Speaker 2: have not bred venables Christian Wilkins, Vic Beasley off the edge.
Speaker 2: But then you want to talk you know, Kevin Dodd
Speaker 2: and Shaq Lawson and all these guys. You know that Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Furl, little furl.
Speaker 2: Austin Briant like all these like there's a ton of
Speaker 2: options along that defensive line.
Speaker 1: And do I go to Shawn, do I go Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: I'm going to Shawn Watson. There's something about his running
Speaker 2: ability and how clutch he was, and this is true.
Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. If this is a true
Speaker 1: NBA jam type of setup, having that versatility of the
Speaker 1: Sean Watson. And that's not to say that Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: couldn't run.
Speaker 2: Man, Trevor Lawrence ran had like a sixty five yard touchdown.
Speaker 2: Know that he Ohio State.
Speaker 1: You know that he could run. But I'll go to
Speaker 1: Sewan here for for the sake of argument. Sean and Sammy,
Speaker 1: who do you want on the Ohio State side?
Speaker 2: Man? Okay, so you have this incredible run of defensive linemen,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if there's an Is there a
Speaker 2: defensive tackle that you would pair with one of the
Speaker 2: Bosa brothers or Chase Young? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Could you pair one of the Bosas with Chase Young?
Speaker 1: They both played end? I mean, can we move them
Speaker 1: around like it's a depth chart.
Speaker 2: I mean they did move around some on passing downs,
Speaker 2: but I think they are all They're all true ends.
Speaker 2: I believe for Ohio State.
Speaker 1: There are two ends on the field at the same time.
Speaker 2: I understand, but we're talking complimentary. You get the pick,
Speaker 2: you get the planning up next to each other.
Speaker 1: I'll let you pick.
Speaker 2: So the other side is you want Braxton Miller? Do
Speaker 2: you want Justin Fields, and it's probably Michael Thomas. But
Speaker 2: we can have a conversation about Devin Smith. You know,
Speaker 2: I would say Fields and Thomas, Fields and Thomas, Dan
Speaker 2: Sands and Bacher not sneaking into your text.
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. Okay, is that your pick Fields and Thomas?
Speaker 2: There have been so many good oh Man, the corners
Speaker 2: and safety and Denzel Ward, Willie Hooker, like, all these
Speaker 2: guys incredible. Yeah, I'm gonna go Justin Fields and Michael Thomas,
Speaker 2: But I just I hate this offensive bias that we're
Speaker 2: showing Fields.
Speaker 1: And Thomas versus DeShawn Well. Hold on, who are who
Speaker 1: are the actual like? Who is the actual scariest recent
Speaker 1: Ohio in the last twenty years Ohio state player? Is
Speaker 1: it Chase Young? So we're just ignoring that fact. Might
Speaker 1: be one of the bosas.
Speaker 2: But Nick didn't play a ton obviously, he sat out
Speaker 2: after getting hurt with a serious injury his final season,
Speaker 2: Joey was incredible. It's probably Chase Young in terms of
Speaker 2: pure scariness, not necessarily production.
Speaker 1: He was double team.
Speaker 2: He was just the guy you want lining up in
Speaker 2: your uniform. It's probably Chase Young above all the other
Speaker 2: guys available, right, Okay. So at that point, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna choose, I mean, what you want, Hankins or Adolphus Washington,
Speaker 2: some guy like that.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm redoing the sheet here, shoe Okay, Hankins, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't either way. I don't think anyone's beating to
Speaker 1: Shawn and Sammy.
Speaker 2: Michael Thomas did not have like a nineteen hundred yard
Speaker 2: receiving season for a.
Speaker 1: House he date, he did. He came into his own
Speaker 1: even more so when he got through the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Drew Brees. I think you gotta go to Shawn
Speaker 1: and Sammy here. That's the only way to fly.
Speaker 2: Um. I think new Hopkins was better at Clemson than
Speaker 2: Sammy Watkins. But I defer to you.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Sean and Sammy and there might pick
Speaker 1: to go through.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna use my override in this round.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna plug in Georgia against Iowa and the
Speaker 1: offensive line tandem.
Speaker 2: So we got so now we have to decide who
Speaker 2: actually So Georgia gets a bye for.
Speaker 1: Some reason, right, Georgia against Iowa.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Iowa duo is the weakest.
Speaker 1: No, I just picked out of a hat here. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: eventually they're going to have to play someone better anyway.
Speaker 1: So it's Stafford and AJ Green against the worst and
Speaker 1: shrif combo from Iowa, which scares you more.
Speaker 2: I think the Iowa offensive line all right, done, done done.
Speaker 2: There was an inconsistent nature to that time in Georgia football.
Speaker 2: If I'm remembering correctly, I know that two thousand and
Speaker 2: seven eight team with Matt Stafford that just absolutely shelled
Speaker 2: to why they're incredible, the best of AJ Green but
Speaker 2: AJ Green also But no, we're not talking about production.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about the ability to stay on the field.
Speaker 2: We're talking about pure scariness. I'd rather build a team
Speaker 2: around the Iowa offensive line. Yeah, I'm doing that.
Speaker 1: So here's what's going to happen. I will put together overs,
Speaker 1: I will put together this list, and we will get
Speaker 1: to the deeper rounds of this here competition on our
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