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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: And them and tie Welcome back to the solid verbal

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Speaker 1: boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me

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Speaker 1: as always over there in beautiful Chicago, Illinois. The man

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Speaker 2: To Andrewsteine, Sir, how are you very little in the

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Speaker 2: way of a plan. But I did just eat Korean

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Speaker 2: I need because I keep getting more and more friends

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Speaker 2: and family and neighbors making orders and I don't know

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try, so I'm planning on doing that. But

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Speaker 2: I also came up with a plan for today's show,

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Speaker 2: yes pretty happy about and I did it last week,

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Speaker 2: you're not told to, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If I was not instructor to do so there's a

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Speaker 2: There were spring quote unquote games played over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I knew that they were occurring. Okay, that's a good

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know how much you missed or didn't miss,

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Speaker 2: Well, there are very few in this listing incredible offensive

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Speaker 2: Now, are you letting the NFL success seep in?

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Speaker 1: They gave him the ball I got gazillion times that season. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I look, I take your point on Carson Palmer.

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Speaker 1: Scary, Matt Lionert, Reggie Bush. That USC team captured all

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Speaker 1: The level of talent he was. Well, I don't look,

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Speaker 2: So Cam Newton, well, you have the single most physically

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Speaker 1: You know that as an Oregon fan, correct, I think

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go Ready. It's just an impossible decision.

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Speaker 1: He's forever going to be like this legend in the

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it would be that that Reggie

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Speaker 2: So then would you say Trey Mason or Matt Liner?

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Speaker 1: All Right, So I'm making up a new rule in

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's no strong, strong argument for Cam over Reggie

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Speaker 2: Okay? Okay? Number eleven Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans oh

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Speaker 2: Nobody is not holding up their end of that duo bargain.

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Speaker 1: No, that's an incredible tandem.

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Speaker 2: And our second duo number is we've already done number ten,

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Speaker 1: Texas town Effects Pat Mahoney and Michael Crabtree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the no brainer in terms of is

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Speaker 1: There has to be Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: the end of Patrick Mahomes's career as a freshman.

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Speaker 1: I think, guys, Graham Harrell, that would be the only thing.

435
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: But I feel like you'd probably be doing yourself at

436
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: the service if you went Graham Harrell over Pat Mahomes.

437
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 2: Now, Graham Harrell was a really strong system air raid quarterback.

438
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes was a star special.

439
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll go Mahomes. I'll go Mahomes. So we've

440
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: got Wow, this is good. We've got Mahomes and Crabtree

441
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: versus Manziell and Evans. To me, the answer feels very

442
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: obvious here, but I want to give you the opportunity

443
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: to go first. I'm going to Dinny Manzellen. It's like

444
00:23:59,520 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: an no.

445
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: Brain right, Yeah, are toughing, You're comparing two other worldly

446
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: outer space astronaut duos. But there's something about Johnny Manziel's

447
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: specific college career that Patrick Mahomes sort of kept developing

448
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: as a pro. And obviously Johnny manzel did not work

449
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: out as an NFL quarterback for all sorts of reasons,

450
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 2: but as a college quarterback, the lore and danger of

451
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: Johnny Manziel as incredible as Patrick Mahomes was as a

452
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: college quarterback and as Michael Crabtree was maybe the all

453
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: time greatest freshman receiver of all time. I'm the physical

454
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: scariness of Mike Evans paired with the unpredictability and lethal

455
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: element of Johnny Manziel, at least when he wasn't playing LSU.

456
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: I'm going with the Aggies here.

457
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: I think you got to go Aggies. By the way,

458
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: I've noticed here in your sheet that there's a numbering issue,

459
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: and Georgia is not with a number.

460
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: What's so give them a number.

461
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: We'll give them. Okay, they'll be.

462
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: Here, hold on, heah, here we go, I'll here.

463
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: We'll move, I'll move into the bottom. Okay, they can

464
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Speaker 1: be our play and team at the very end, I'll continue.

465
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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're ready for the next random number. Okay,

466
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 2: here we go. Oh man, I'm actually kind of nervous.

467
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: Number two another. This is an impossible one that we're

468
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: just gonna have to make a ruling on. The duo

469
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Speaker 2: is the Florida Gators?

470
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Speaker 1: Right?

471
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: So you probably if you're gonna go with a quarterback

472
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: as good as Kyle Trask was, there's something that's a

473
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: little bit scarier, even though he's not as good of

474
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: a thrower. About Tim Tebow, it's got to be Tibo

475
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: as that bowl rushing danger, It's got.

476
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Speaker 1: To be t Bow, and it's got to be Percy Harvin.

477
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: Got Well, it's Percy Harvin over Kadarius Tony because Caadarius

478
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: Tony is a Percy Harvin type. Because Percy Harvin is

479
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 2: the prototype correct in Florida speed annals h. Kyle Pitts

480
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: is a tight end and not like really any other

481
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: tight end we've seen recently. So you that case is

482
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: he's something.

483
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's not gonna fall in deaf fiars.

484
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: It's a It's a very strong case for Kyle Pitts.

485
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: But again, much the way I was a sucker for

486
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: Mariota and d Anthony Thomas. Yeah, de Anthony Thomas falls

487
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: into that Percy Harvin vain.

488
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, a versatility.

489
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was Percy Harvin after Percy Harvin. Right, So

490
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: I gotta go t Bow and Harvin here as my duo.

491
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: Who else you have here?

492
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: You have to well, I mean you could go like

493
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: Carlos Dunlap and Sharie Floyd. There's guys all over you

494
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: know you Amad Black was terrific at safety. They've had

495
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: this history of incredible corners, you know, like you tease Tabor,

496
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: like all these guys these past twenty years, they've CJ Henderson.

497
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: There are a number of guys that have, especially in

498
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: that defensive backfield. But pure scariness. I mean they won

499
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 2: a national championship with defensive end. I'm still going right now,

500
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna be that romantic and go t.

501
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: Bohart, Gotta go Tebo Harvin. All right? Who they going against?

502
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: T Bow and Harvin are facing off against number that

503
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: we already do, number twenty seven. We already did number

504
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Do we already do number twenty eight? We

505
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: did not. This is another This is a great one.

506
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: This is a heavyweight match.

507
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: This is this is what it's all about right here.

508
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I want to go with my alternate, which

509
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: I think you are going with as well. So just

510
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: because it's too easy to compare the same position duos

511
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: so lsu, I think it's relatively obvious if you're going

512
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 2: to go offense, it's probably Joe Burrow and Obj Okay.

513
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: I would listen to Leonard Fournette. Those Bama games pretty ridiculous.

514
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Those Bama games weren't great. You can go Jamar Chase,

515
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: who just won the Blittnikoff, which is I believe award

516
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: they give to pretty good receivers, and they obviously have

517
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: that connection. But in terms of special I mean, was

518
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase a more special receiver than Obj at LSU?

519
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: Hard to know because he was playing in a much

520
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: better system, much.

521
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: Better system, much more receiver friendly.

522
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: With a better quarterback as well. Yeah, but the natural

523
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: talent of Obj is off the charts.

524
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: It's off the charts. Yeah, that's that whole If you

525
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: go back, and I'm sure LC fans have, if you

526
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: go back and look at the receiving talent that some

527
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: of those teams had that they did not fully harness,

528
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. It's a total indictment of the old system.

529
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: Now, I also have down here just because it's a

530
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: duo that basically nobody else in the sport can replicate.

531
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Speaker 2: Patrick Peterson and Honey Badger Tyron Matthew.

532
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Honey Badger is another one who captured imagination,

533
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: isn't he.

534
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: So there's the versatility, there's the return game. There's special

535
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: teams lining up in different places on the field. You know,

536
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: it's safety in the slot, you know, slot corner or whatever.

537
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: Nicol he was all over the place, played outside corner.

538
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: Some I also have Devin White and Kwan Alexander.

539
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a case there, but it's not

540
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: nearly as strong as Joe Burrow with either OBJ or

541
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Fournette or Patrick Peterson with Honey Badger.

542
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: What about Glenn Dorsey and like Tyson Jackson or Sam

543
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: Montgomery or Barhevius Mingo. Glen do was borderline the Kreisman.

544
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man, I think I think it's

545
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: one of those first two. It's either Burrow or Fournette,

546
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: OBJ or OBJ or Patrick Peterson in Honey Badger.

547
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Patrick Peterson Honey Badger. I'm gonna

548
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: use my override because really for this, Yeah, I'm for this.

549
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use my override here one because I want

550
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: to get some variety in these matchups. I mean, not.

551
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: Different, pick a different team to get variety from. Man, this,

552
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna go against Joe Burrow.

553
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: Well, I'm asking you what is what is better to

554
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: find l us your football these past twenty years, lethal

555
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: offense or incredible speed and talent on defense?

556
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean over that it's definitely been more a story

557
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: of defense. But the biggest story of all was a

558
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: once in a generation team led by Joe Burrow. Sure,

559
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: if you want to use your override, you can go

560
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: ahead and use it. I would go.

561
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: I would go Burrow and Fournette. If it were me

562
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: Burrow Fournette over Burrow and obij are Chase.

563
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: I would go Burrow Fournette because Burrow was unstoppable and

564
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: so is Fournette. Obij was ridiculous in college, but he

565
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: was not nearly the larger than life figure in college

566
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: as he became the NFL.

567
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: Okay. Leonard Fournette twenty fifteen has thirty one yards against

568
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: Alabama on the ground. Leonard Fournette twy fourteen has nine

569
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: yards on the ground on five carries against Alabama. And

570
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, which I believe he was beat up

571
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: some had finished his career with three straight double digit

572
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: rushing games a zero against Alabama zero points. He had

573
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: seventeen carries to thirty five yards and then in a

574
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: ten point performance LS losing sixteen to ten, twelve rushes

575
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: for forty yards against Florida Gators. Right, that comes after

576
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: going for two eighty four against Ole miss that stretch.

577
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Right, So that is an element to me. All right, Okay,

578
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: so we're going with You're gonna go with defense.

579
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: Then I'm going Pat Pete and Honey Badger.

580
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, I don't think we can go over

581
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: t Bow and Harvin. I don't see how you could

582
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: pick any duo, especially this duo over t Bow and Harvin.

583
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: T Bow another once in a generation quarterback. The offense

584
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: that he ran with Percy Harvin was fun as hell

585
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: to watch. Honey Badger outstanding, versatile. Again I keep saying

586
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: captured imagination, but he did. With his versatility. Patrick Peterson

587
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: was good. I don't did he have the star power

588
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: of a Tim Tebow.

589
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: That's a different It's not as glamorous a position.

590
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think you gotta go Tbo

591
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: Harvin here. I don't. It seems like a no brainer

592
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: to me.

593
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go Tebo Harvin as well. I

594
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: do want to point out one thing that's actually going

595
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: against I guess Patrick Peterson and Honey Badger. These are

596
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks in twenty twelve or twenty eleven that els

597
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: was facing. I mean it's Tyler Wilson, Aaron Murray, Aj mcceron,

598
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: John Brantley, Connor Shaw, Randall Mackie, Jordan Rodgers, Chris Ralph,

599
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: Chris Ralph. Now Elsie wasn't going against Jared Lee, but

600
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: in some ways they were Clint Moseley, Morgan Newton. Okay,

601
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: so not a quarterback heavy era in the sees. Okay,

602
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: twenty twelve we do get Johnny Manzel, you get doctor Bo,

603
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: Tyler Russell, more, Jordan Rodgers, he finally get Zach Mettenberger

604
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: at LSU, Connor Shaw, you get casual dress, James Franklin

605
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: entering into the league. But I think it's yeah, I

606
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: think it's it's t bow and person.

607
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: It's gotta be it's gotta be. All right, We're gonna

608
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: have to break this up into two parts. I hope

609
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: you're okay, is that true? The show? The show we're

610
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to break up.

611
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So we'll go through the first round. Now, we'll

612
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: do the first round. Yeah, subsequent rounds. Okay, so we

613
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: need random numbers, right.

614
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: Random numbers?

615
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, here we go number.

616
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: Four Penn State. Oh this is good.

617
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this is There are a lot of options

618
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball here, Yes you want

619
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: to go, Dan Connor, Paul pud Lesny, pause Lesny, Michael Parsons.

620
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: I there's options.

621
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go. It's either Michael Robinson and

622
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: Saquon or Trace in Saquon and I could probably be

623
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: convinced either way. But who is their opponent? Please don't

624
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: tell me Notre Dame please?

625
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: In terms, uh, well, the random number, it's gonna come up.

626
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: It's coming up as twenty two Texas. Vince Young, Jamal Charles.

627
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: Wow, this is good. This is good.

628
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: Dan, what tone you have?

629
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: I think it's gotta be.

630
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about when we mentioned Cam Newton, you're

631
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: talking about the the unmatched physical talent Vince Young is

632
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: in that conversation.

633
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: I of course I know, of course, I think it's

634
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: got to be Trace and Saquon. If I'm picking, I

635
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: think I go Trace and Okay, defend this point, Defend

636
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: what point? Defend why he's like the winningest quarterback in

637
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: program history. So you're taking Trace mcsorlely over Vince Young. No, no, no, no, no, no,

638
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: no no no, I'm taking over Michael Robbins. Michael Robins,

639
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm not taking I'm not taking Pinstate over Vince Young. No.

640
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Michael Robinson ended his career probably on a

641
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: higher notes with who I think it was. Galen Hall

642
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: was the Penn State offensive coordinator back then, so not

643
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: nearly as open a system. Even though it was Ricky

644
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: Ronnie Right who finished out Trace mcsorley's career. Michael Robinson, scarier,

645
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 2: runner bigger, was eventually an NFL fullback, similar passing numbers

646
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: his senior year in mcsorley's final season, but yeah, Trace,

647
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: The height of Trace McSorley as a quarterback was certainly

648
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: higher than Michael Robinson's and Saquon Barkley seems like the

649
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: most physically impressive Penn State player of these past twenty years.

650
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: Twenty years that it's seen an incredible number of you know,

651
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: guys up front on defense.

652
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: Defensive talent. Yeah, yeah, for sure, it's.

653
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: It's Sakwan's the guy that pops.

654
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: Saquon pops, but nobody pops more than Vince Young. But

655
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Vince Young did at Texas. He single handedly won a

656
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: national championship for Texas. Wanhorns had a good team around

657
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: him set out.

658
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what single handedly, but that game

659
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: he was a force of nature for suit I will

660
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: the team willed.

661
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Them to victory in that game. Yeah, in the Rose Bowl.

662
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: So I look, I don't care who you pair Vince

663
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: Young with. Vince Young's got to be got to be

664
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: moving on to the next round here, Jackson Shipley, sure,

665
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: any of the Shipleys doesn't matter. I don't care. It's

666
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: Vince Young.

667
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: So interestingly, Jamal Charles like his his freshman year one

668
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: hundred nineteen carries, sophomore year one hundred and fifty six carries,

669
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: and his sophomore year wasn't as good, and he was

670
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: probably most effective yet you know, sixteen hundred yards, but

671
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: his per carry average as a receiver, he was really

672
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: good as a freshman. He was almost more effective as

673
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: a rotation guy, even though he did put up those

674
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred yards. He's I mean, we're still talking about

675
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: what Cedric Benson as an option, see Benz. There's been

676
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: a lot of good Texas running backs over the past

677
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: twenty years receivers. I don't know Kwan Cosby, Jordan Shipley,

678
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: and they haven't popped nearly as much. And Ricky Williams

679
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: was I think as finally it was ninety eight, so

680
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: he doesn't count. So yeah, I'm gonna go Vince Young

681
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: in Texas. In this one, there were some disappearing acts

682
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: from Saquan. Again, he is playing a position that's dependent

683
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: on the success of others, whereas Vince Young is the success.

684
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, are you going next? All right, we

685
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: are going number.

686
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: Nine?

687
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: Have we done? We had nine? Yes?

688
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: Okay, We're going number thirty one.

689
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: Thirty one is Missoo with Chase Daniel and Jeremy Macklin,

690
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: which is a real underrated pairing here. This is a

691
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: good pairing. Now.

692
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: This is also a Mazoo program that has had some

693
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: electric talent along the defensive line. Sure, high high draft picks,

694
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: high level of success there. So there are duos there

695
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: that I don't know. I don't know how you feel

696
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: about some of those guys.

697
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: It's got to be Chase Daniel and Jeremy Macklin. They

698
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: were ridiculous in college. Has to be, has to be.

699
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: Even over casual jests James Franklin.

700
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, of course not.

701
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: Of course, Daves Franklin was very good.

702
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: It wasn't this good? All right?

703
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: Number they're facing off against number sixteen. Another difficult decision.

704
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: Whoa Florida state?

705
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you think this is difficult.

706
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well the problem is Derwin James and Jalen Ramsey

707
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: kind of played the same position, kind of a slot corner, rover, safety,

708
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: outside linebacker when they needed to be in certain cases.

709
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: Because those two guys, just in terms of physical talent

710
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: are just off the charts, So you could I don't know,

711
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: I don't I mean, I guess it's Jamis and Dalvin.

712
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: It's got to be Jamison Dalvin Dan got to beeah.

713
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, they competed against Oregon for a

714
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: long time, that duo, so you got to hand it

715
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: to them.

716
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's Jamis and Dalvin. Moving

717
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: on here, this is a no brainer. Say what you

718
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: want about Jamis, but as a college quarterback, he was just.

719
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: Like I mean, that twenty thirteen offense was all unstaple time, Yeah, unstoppable.

720
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: Okay, next matchup?

721
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, that was was that the first matchup

722
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: or the second matchup. Was it the first duo or the.

723
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: Sum I'm saying it's got to be Jamis over Missoo.

724
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: Jamis over Missu. Oh yeah, yeah, of course. Okay, sorry,

725
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm blanked on that. That's how much Missoo left an

726
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: imprint on me. Number twenty nine.

727
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: Number twenty nine is Tennessee. Yeah wow, Okay.

728
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 2: So I would say they they have an all time

729
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: popping running back in Alvin Kamara, but they didn't necessarily

730
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: use him as often as they should have. And I

731
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: don't think they have a quarterback who would compliment Alvin

732
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: Kamara's talent. Depending on how you feel about Josh Dobbs

733
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: or Jonathan Crompton, I don't know, but I don't think

734
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: they have that quarterback. So I'm going to go on

735
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, and I'm gonna go

736
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: with Albert Haynesworth and Derek Barnett.

737
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: Albert Haynesworth one of the all time great yes SEC players.

738
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: A friend of mine tried to block Albert Haynesworth because

739
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: he played offensive line for Vanderbilt and it went poorly,

740
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: very very poorly.

741
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: One of the all time greats. So it makes sense

742
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: that Hainsworth would be in here.

743
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: Is that they've had like, they've got guys who popped,

744
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: Like I wanted to find a corner who would compliment

745
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: Eric Berry, but I couldn't. I couldn't zero in on

746
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: a guy that I felt like was worthy of. That

747
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: feels good, Hainsworth and Barnett. Okay, so tennessee Haynesworth and

748
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: Barnett taking on. Let's see if we got a number

749
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: we haven't done. Have we done? Number ten?

750
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: We have done that?

751
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: We have? Have we done number eighteen? We have not?

752
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: This is this is a sneaky pairing right here.

753
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: All right, We've got Mark Herzlck, who I believe was

754
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: an outside linebacker. I double checked this, Mark hers Lick,

755
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: great story, great college linebacker. Luke Keikley. Yeah, perhaps the

756
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: best inside or middle linebacker of the modern era on

757
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: both levels.

758
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: This would also be like a real NBA jam duo

759
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: right here. It feels like this would be a real pairing.

760
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: And yeah, I I feel like you gotta go with

761
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: Hertzlig and Keighley.

762
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go hers Licking.

763
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you gotta right, like two awesome linebackers.

764
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: You know, the Keigley numbers are off the charts. Hers

765
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: Lick was really good and obviously got sick. But man,

766
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: it's it's a question of did Albert Hainsworth play inside

767
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: in a dominant fashion that was unlike what Luke Keickley did.

768
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: Because Derek Barnett also set records, was incredible as a

769
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: past rusher, and Albert Haynsworth was borderline unblockable at the

770
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: level of Luke Keighley. I don't know. I mean, in

771
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: terms of scariness, Luke Keickley was going to shut you down,

772
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: knew what you were going to do, and was going

773
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: to make the.

774
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: Taxle qu.

775
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 2: Right. You weren't breaking Luke keigley tackles, But then again,

776
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: you might not survive in Albert Hainsworth's tech. So actually

777
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Hainesworth from pure fear, if that

778
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: is a sense that we are going to include in this,

779
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: I would say I'm as scared of Albert Hainesworth. This

780
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with his you know, pro run

781
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: ins with penalties and suspensions, not seeing what he was

782
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 2: able to do in terms of breaking up the interior

783
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: of an offensive line. Luke Keigley was is incredible. The

784
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: height of Albert Hainsworth was essentially as scary as pretty

785
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: much any interior defensive lineman. I mean, you have Sue,

786
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: you have all sorts of players who are crazy good.

787
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm gonna go with Tennessee here. Actually interesting,

788
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: are you going to BC? I would go BC.

789
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: I am not going to use my override here.

790
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're going going twenty nine Tennessee. We're going Tennessee. Okay,

791
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: next number one?

792
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: Oh boy, no, Notre Dame. Notre Dame.

793
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: Do you want the offensive line due or do you

794
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: want the linebacker Duell?

795
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: Wow? Well, so here's the thing. Which offensive line duo

796
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: are we going? Or? Do you want?

797
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: Who would be the quarterback? Would be Brady Quin would

798
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: be Jimmy Class.

799
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: We're not doing any quarterbacks with Notre game. Okay.

800
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: That may there have been good receivers though, even Michael

801
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: Floyd Golden Tate, there have been very good receivers, really

802
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: good tight ends.

803
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: There have been, for sure. But I think I think

804
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: it's clear here that you either need to go with

805
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: it's got to be some combo of Quentin Nelson with

806
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley or Mike McGlinchey, all of the these guys have

807
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: been really high draft picks. Ronnie Stanley I think is

808
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: the highest paid offensive lineman, the highest paid tackle in

809
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: the NFL. Quentin Nelson is a perennial Pro bowler, and

810
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: Mike mcglinchy was drafted ninth overall a few picks after

811
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: Quintin Nelson when they got picked and played in a

812
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So maybe hasn't quite gotten the NFL accolades,

813
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: but has been very very good. This is though a

814
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: situation where we have to make sure that the NFL

815
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: prowess doesn't seep into are our grading of this. But

816
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: it's unique in that there aren't a whole lot of

817
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: offensive line combos that we could cite correct to me.

818
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: I mean, Florida State has some good options there. Way

819
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: back when I think Quentin Nelson pops on like any

820
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: other player on this list, and we were talking about

821
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: Manta Teo Heisman finalist in Jalen Smith, you know, all

822
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: American caliber.

823
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: The other the other names that we have here, we

824
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: have Manti Tao and Jalen Smith.

825
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: Right, Manta Teo Jalen Smith.

826
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith remains underrated.

827
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: An all time athletic and successful Notre Dame linebacker.

828
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: So good, so so freaking good. His career the way

829
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: it ended in the bowl game with the injury, his

830
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: comeback story to now be a prominent productive member of

831
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys is like ridiculous. And Manti Tayo, look the

832
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: story of Manti Tao at Notre Dame. That should not

833
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: be overlooked either. Manti Tao talk about capturing imagination. Good lord,

834
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: that's there are no greater examples of that in a

835
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: literal sense. Oh was awesome in college football was also

836
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: very very good. Yeah, So we've got options here with

837
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

838
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: Where's the fear? Where's the fear from you? Are you've

839
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: you've rooted for both of these duos? Like, would you

840
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: rather run into or would you rather try to run

841
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: by either of these line? Or would you rather try

842
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: to bull rush Quentin Nelson?

843
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do either. I think the answer

844
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: here is mcglinchy and Nelson.

845
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm on the same page. I think I think

846
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: Nelson is the single scariest person here.

847
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: Yet we don't have a whole lot of offensive line

848
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: combos like this, so I think that in and of

849
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: itself is unique. You gotta go with those two who

850
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: are they, who are they going against?

851
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: Let's do our number randomizer and hope that we haven't

852
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 2: No Number thirty thirty is pit. This is a great

853
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: literal matchup pit.

854
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: Wow. Pit. Okay, So the obvious one is obviously Aaron Donald.

855
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, who was every bit as good in college

856
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: as he is now in the pros?

857
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

858
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: Who do we want to pair Aaron Donald with?

859
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: So I have Jabal shared he was an All American

860
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: and longtime NFL player. Sure, but essentially there's nobody you

861
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: could put next to Aaron Donald and be like, oh, yeah,

862
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: they're relatively on the same level of scariness. So that

863
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: that was the best I could do. But in terms

864
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: of college football scariness over the past twenty years, it's

865
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: hard to have that conversation without Aaron Donald. Now we're

866
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: seeing Aaron essentially now Aaron Donald against Quentin Nelson.

867
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good matchup that could actually happen too, right,

868
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: It probably has.

869
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Colts have played the Rams.

870
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I think the fact that you've got two first round

871
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: anchors on the left side of that line for Notre

872
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: Dame in mcglinchy and Nelson. The height of that to me,

873
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: feels much higher than Donald and sheered. However, I mean

874
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: was a second the second round pick.

875
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're not a.

876
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: Really good matchup. I'm gonna go Mcglinchyan Nelson and I'm

877
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: going to use my I'm gonna use my override if

878
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: you decide you want to go pit.

879
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: Wow, you're dictating. Oka's right. Well, ye, I'm gonna go

880
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 2: pit then. So it says you'll lose an over ride.

881
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, showed my cards too early, but

882
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it.

883
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: It's okay, all right. I think we've got a couple.

884
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: More, right, Yeah, we got we got more here that

885
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: we can do.

886
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: Okay. Uh, number eleven, I think we've done. No, we

887
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: haven't done. Number eleven.

888
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: This is a sneaky good one too.

889
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: This is sort of an exception to the rule that

890
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna count. It was a submission and I said,

891
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: you know what, I'll allow it.

892
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: So it's not Shady McCoy and Aaron Donald, but no,

893
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: it's Darren McFadden, Oh wow, and Felix Jones. Yeah.

894
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: So Darren McFadden playing quarterback. Enough the wildcat for a

895
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 2: bit of a technicality, but it works. I think it

896
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: was about two thousand and seven. I mean, you can

897
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: go with whoever you want to go, Ryan Mallet or

898
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: Tyler Wilson, that's fine. And Darren McFadden. I think it

899
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: probably has to me McFadden in the conversation. Yes, there's

900
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: no better duo. I don't think across Arkansast football. They

901
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: had some interesting defensive linemen in the twenty fourteen and

902
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 2: obviously there were good receivers there during the Patrino time.

903
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, Dearren McFadden pops upon pops. So we'll go

904
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: to mc McFadden and Felix. Now, if you want to

905
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: change Auburn to Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams, you're welcome to.

906
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: But actually, no, they didn't run wildly. Was when Ronnie

907
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: Brown was with the Dolphins, right right, That's when they

908
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: was a wildcat quarterback. Okay, So yeah, we're I'm going

909
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: Felix Jones dere mcfatten here. I'm allowing it. It's my show.

910
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: Okay.

911
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: Next we need an opponent.

912
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: Next topic, Yes, number twenty.

913
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: You know I've already done that. Yeahn't make this number twenty.

914
00:49:54,640 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: Ooh Miama with Ed Reid in Entrell Roll yeah, that

915
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: is interesting.

916
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: Andrel roll all over the field a bunch of different positions.

917
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: Of course, i'd read all time, all time, all time safety.

918
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: This has to be Miami. This has to be Miami

919
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: with Ed Reid and Ontreil roll.

920
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, too much speed. Those defenses were too good and

921
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: too NFL laden, and Ed Reid was at the heart

922
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: of them.

923
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: These guys were preposterous at both I like that word. Yeah,

924
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: both levels. They were so so good. And it's interesting

925
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: because we've got a defensive back pairing here with Miami.

926
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: We've also got a running back pairing in a sense

927
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: with McFadden and Felix, which is a fun tandem. But

928
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: I gotta go read and roll. I just it's a

929
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 1: no brainer.

930
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 2: Same page. Okay, all right, next number generation, number twenty five.

931
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: We've got a scary combo here.

932
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: Arizona State with Will Sutton and Tarrell Suggs.

933
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: Terrell Suggs, Will Sutton. Okay, do you have any just

934
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: initial thoughts about the two of them? Will Sutton PAC

935
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: twelve Defensive Player of the Year and twenty I don't

936
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: remember thirteen twelve somewhere in there or both. It looks

937
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: like both first team All American twenty thirteen Consensus All

938
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 2: American twenty twelve. Seems like a pretty good college career.

939
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: I remember more of Terrell Suggs as a Raven and

940
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: he was scary good.

941
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 2: I went back and watched Terrell Suggs ASU highlights and

942
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: it was like that, but against like a Washington State tackle.

943
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: So imagine what Terrell Suggs was doing.

944
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: So we didn't got well.

945
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Terrell Suggs was an outside linebacker, you know,

946
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: edge guy for the Ravens, but he was a hand

947
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: down defensive end.

948
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: Kay, the sun Devils. Okay, so it could go perfect.

949
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: We could if we could figure out a way to

950
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: get two running backs in there, we could figure out

951
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: a way to get Vonte's perfect in there for a.

952
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: With an outside linebacker like a rushback. Yeah, I desperately

953
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 2: wanted to put Suggs in perfect together.

954
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: But can we do that?

955
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: And watch? Can we went back and watch? His hand

956
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: was in the ground. He was a true end all right?

957
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: All right? Fine?

958
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 2: I had that issue with in the other direction, with

959
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 2: David Pollack and Georgia, like I didn't. I couldn't find

960
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: anybody even approaching how good David Pollack was on the

961
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: inside of that defensive line. Good players, good players, David

962
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 2: Pollack all all timer in Georgia. That was very difficult

963
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: for me. So I had to go another direction with

964
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:35,479
Speaker 2: the Georgia players. So Will Sutton and Terrell Suggs against Nope,

965
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: we don't have that number. This is really good audio.

966
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: Don't have that number. Do we have number twenty six?

967
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: Nope?

968
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: Do we have number fifteen? Iowa, See, here's a good

969
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 2: offensive line duo.

970
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: This is an interesting duo, and it's very befitting a WIO,

971
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: is it not. Of course we've got here.

972
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: And I like the matchup. I like the defensive line

973
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: against the offensive line because we can use our imaginations

974
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: a little bit better. For a head to head back matchup.

975
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: We've got the worse and Shurf like Surf and Turf

976
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: versus Will Sutton and Tarrell Sugs Dan Suggs.

977
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wurfs was incredible, I believe this year for the Bucks,

978
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: but more importantly he was amazing for Iowa. And of

979
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: course Brandon Schurff was just an animal. So first round

980
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: picks alike.

981
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if I have actor,

982
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

983
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: Who's pants, Who's who? Makes your pants tightened, tie probab,

984
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: who would you?

985
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: Probably the Iowa offensive line mans was so mean, that

986
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: very mean, so mean. If you would find a way

987
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: to put Vante's perfect in there and Terrell Suggs, I

988
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: would go, or Terrell Sugs that keep saying it wrong.

989
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: I would definitely go.

990
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: Au well Son's really good. On the inside of that line,

991
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: I think I might go the Iowa dudes and those

992
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: dudes pop, They're dangerous, They're nasty.

993
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we got okay.

994
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: I don't feel good about it through. That was tough,

995
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: but that's.

996
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: Where I'm going to eight nine, and we basically have

997
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: five more matchups to do. All right, let's throat to

998
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: do with Georgia because they were the odd man out,

999
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: but let's work through.

1000
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do this at random. I'm not going

1001
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: to do the number randomizer. I'm just gonna do the

1002
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: Dan randomizer. Let's go teams with the same colors. Essentially,

1003
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: Michigan against cal Cal.

1004
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: Has a sneaky good pairing here, don't they I've got

1005
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: a great pairing or are they mean? Great two pairings

1006
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: if you want to look at it. Yeah, So I

1007
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: think we would agree that Michigan is Dinard Robinson and

1008
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: Brayln Edwards offensively.

1009
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about Mike Heart, I

1010
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: don't know how you feel about Jake, but what a

1011
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: very good career. I don't know how you feel. Mean,

1012
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: they've had decent receivers these past twenty years, Mario Manningham,

1013
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 2: but Brayllen Edwards seems to rise above some droppy issues,

1014
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: drops the issues as well. But Denard Robinson is probably

1015
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: the offensive player who run literally runs away from this

1016
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 2: conversation in terms of scariness. So you had to find

1017
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: a running back a receiver that to me, I think,

1018
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: you know, Brayllen Edwards and then defensively for Michigan, I'm

1019
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 2: willing to have a conversation about you know, we're Shaun

1020
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 2: Gary and Chase Winovich or Jabrill Peppers and Devin Bush.

1021
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: There there are options there.

1022
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're not gonna go over Dinard. Can't go

1023
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: over Nard Dog, Nard Dog. He's in that conversation with

1024
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: some of these other guys, the Reggie Bushes of the

1025
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: world who just were larger than life in the college.

1026
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: And Denard Robinson in that rich rot offense. Yeah, mm,

1027
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: gotta do it. A pretty insane combo.

1028
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: So here's what's interesting about the Cal side. Yeah, who

1029
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: do you pick on the Cal side? You've got a

1030
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: couple obvious ones in aarons Au sorry, Aaron Rodgers, Marshawn Lynch,

1031
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: and Shawn Jackson. Yeah, I'm assuming we can't go Marshawn

1032
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: and dust Shawn?

1033
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: Can we We cannot. And here's the thing though about

1034
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: Marshawn Lynch. He was a really good Cal running back.

1035
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: But there was a they had a series of really

1036
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: good running it did not even like it did. Probably

1037
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: Javid Best was their most incredible home rum threat. You know,

1038
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: JJ Arrington who was really good, and Justin Fcett who

1039
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: was excellent. But yeah, there is something. I mean, if

1040
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: we're playing the scariness element of this, Marshawn Lynch is

1041
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: the answer there.

1042
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: I think it's Marshawn.

1043
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: So are you going Aaron Rodgers and Marshawn? I'm going on,

1044
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: I gotta go Donard and Braylin. So at a certain

1045
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: point you're saying Braylon or Marshawn, then that's fine.

1046
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: I just think Dinard Robinson is far and away the

1047
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: answer here. It could be Denard Robinson against.

1048
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: Like three did he hurt. You did Denard Robinson hurt

1049
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: you does a Michigan in a Notre Dame in Penn State.

1050
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: He did? Ok Yeah he did?

1051
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: So then I mean that's first person experience. Yeah, Okay,

1052
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: I'll accept it. I'm not going to override it.

1053
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: Louisville, this is so good. This is going to be

1054
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: so tough with.

1055
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: Louisville, Lamar Jackson DeVante Parker, who made incredible player after

1056
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 2: incredible play, right, and then we'll go with somebody equally

1057
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: athletic at quarterback, Eli Man And I mean, you can

1058
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: choose whoever you want here at receiver for ole Miss

1059
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: because they've had I mean want Lakwan Treadwell. A J.

1060
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: Brown became metcalf More. A J.

1061
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: Brown was really good.

1062
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah wea go ahead J. Brown? Yeah, Man Lawan Treadwell

1063
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: though physically if we're talking about scariness, well.

1064
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: We had a sound for Lakwan. Maybe you go him

1065
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: with Quantasaurus Rex. Right. I just don't know how you

1066
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: can take anybody over Lamar. We're gonna come to a

1067
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: point in this competition where we get a little bit

1068
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: deeper and it's gonna end up being like Dinard Robinson

1069
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson, and we're gonna have to have a

1070
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: car a very hard conversation.

1071
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're also talking about an old Miss

1072
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: offensive line with some big names. Sure, we're talking about

1073
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: old Miss defensive line with some candija to it.

1074
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: The whole land Shark thing you have.

1075
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the secondary was great.

1076
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: I just it's got to be Lamar.

1077
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: Okay, put them forward where it is. Okay, let's go.

1078
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: These are sort of opposites, but not really opposites. Stanford

1079
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: and Andrew Luck with Christian McCaffrey by his side. Keep

1080
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: something in mind about Andrew Luck. Everybody thinks about, Oh,

1081
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: he was so subrebral and had this great arm and

1082
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: was himself changing the plays since like day one, and

1083
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: making calls and shifts and doing everything given more responsibility

1084
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: than the average quarterback. Early on in his career, Andrew

1085
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: Luck loved running over people. Andrew Luck was not afraid

1086
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: to drop a shoulder if the pocket broke down and

1087
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: he started running. Now, Christian McCaffrey goes without saying, I

1088
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: don't think Iowa touched him in the first half of

1089
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: that Rose Bowl. All apologies to Hawk fans, but Christian

1090
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: McCaffrey another level in terms of all purpose college football

1091
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: players with that just all time all purpose, and I'm

1092
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: going to go with Andrew Luck's father's school, West Virginia. Now, okay,

1093
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: the obvious duo is Paw White Steve Slayton, because they

1094
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: were together. We saw it, we saw them exist as

1095
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: you know this, Yin and Yang. But Tavon Austin never

1096
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: played running back and then decided to play running back

1097
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 2: because they didn't have any the years, didn't have any

1098
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: against I believe Oklahoma and ran for nine hundred and

1099
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: forty four yards that night.

1100
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: I think I think Tavon's still playing in the NFL,

1101
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: isn't he?

1102
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: That sounds right.

1103
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's even possible. At this point,

1104
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: it's like eight years free agent, Yeah, seven years in. Yeah,

1105
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: he's only thirty. Good lord, we're getting old. Okay.

1106
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: So we've got two all purpose great players in Tavon

1107
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: Austin Christian McCaffrey, and we've got a scary ass runner

1108
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: in Pat White who was able to make plays with

1109
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: his arm as well. And Andrew Luck.

1110
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be Stanford and that you

1111
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: should not imply from that statement that I did not

1112
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: enjoy the freaking hell out of watching those West Virginia

1113
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: teams with Pat White. Steeve Well, first, so we got

1114
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 1: you going Slaton or Austin. I probably go Slaton.

1115
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: Or wild card. David Sills cut a lot of touchdowns,

1116
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: got a lot of touchdowns.

1117
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: I'd probably go Pat White and Slaton. Okay, and I

1118
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: think I got to go Andrew Luck and Christian McCaffrey.

1119
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Man in the pairing in the overall matchup, I think so.

1120
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: I think so too, And I Taevon Austin will always

1121
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: hold a special place in my heart as a West

1122
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: Virginia Mountaineer.

1123
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1124
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: Man, they had some stupid special players there. Weel divine.

1125
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: So this is this is interesting.

1126
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 1: This is interesting the way that this is broken down,

1127
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: because the last five teams, we're gonna have to figure

1128
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: out again something to do with Georgia. We'll stick them

1129
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: on one of the other winners. Well, I mean it's

1130
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: in a play in. Yeah, I guess Georgia. The combo

1131
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: is depending on how you feel. I mean, I couldn't

1132
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: find an interior defensive lineman to put next to David Pollock.

1133
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: So then from that point I said, okay, we're doing

1134
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: rokeland Smith and Jarvis Jones inside outside linebacker. That's pretty

1135
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: friggin scary, right, Or are you just going the obvious

1136
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: offensive well at least quarterback to receiver in Matt Stafford

1137
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: A J.

1138
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: Green. I guess depending. I mean they've had a lot

1139
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: of really good running backs as well. Nick chob Sonya,

1140
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: Michelle No Sea Mareno got real real strong dudes. I

1141
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: think you gotta go Stafford, right, I think you go

1142
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: Stafford Green, Stafford A. J.

1143
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: Green.

1144
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so Stafford David Green in an all

1145
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 2: quarterback wild cat.

1146
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, so Stafford.

1147
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: And so we'll find a place to insert them. That'll

1148
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: be our wild card insertion, where we just eliminate a

1149
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: team and replace them with Georgia in the next round.

1150
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: So, okay, let's go Oklahoma with Kyler Murray and Adrian Peterson.

1151
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 2: Okay, or bib I was gonna say why Kyler over Baker?

1152
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: And it's perfectly reasonable to say so. But I don't

1153
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: both really strong runners. Kyler probably, I mean definitely faster.

1154
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will let you pick. I don't discriminate here

1155
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: between the two. Do you want Baker? I mean, it's

1156
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: gotta be ap all day. But who do we want out,

1157
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: who do we want alongside him?

1158
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: So they each play in a playoff semi and a

1159
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: losing efforts. Kyler with a slow start but made some

1160
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: incredible plays against Alabama and then Baker Mayfield double overtime

1161
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: loss to Georgia. I'm just from pure scariness, I'm going Kyler.

1162
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, We've got Oklahoma with Kyler and Adrian Peterson.

1163
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: By the way, you're going Adrian Peterson over a very

1164
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: long list of incredible pass catchers Ryan bros lamb Sterling,

1165
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: Shan sure for Jamaine Gresham. Yeah, gotta go Adrian Peterson. Okay,

1166
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: we will pair them up against Alabama. Okay, this is impossible.

1167
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: It's I don't know how you select a defensive duo

1168
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: for Alabama. Yeah, if you're going to suggest any defensive duo,

1169
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: you can select from a combination of like seventeen players.

1170
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: Right.

1171
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: If you want to say, Jonathan Allen and Quinn Williams, Okay, great, bad.

1172
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: You cannot make a strong argument, you know, Marlon Humphrey,

1173
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: Miika Fitzpatrick, Eddie Jackson, Haha, Clinton Dix and like any

1174
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: of these guys, I'm okay with this, you know. Patrick

1175
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: Sartan most recently Mark barn all of these guys. If

1176
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: you want to go, Orlando McClain and what's his name,

1177
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: the outside linebacker on the Patriots down to High Town,

1178
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: all these guys, Like, I'm okay with any of them,

1179
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: but I think they'll cancel each other out, the excellence,

1180
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: cancels each other out, cancels you know. I don't know.

1181
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about that.

1182
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it on defense.

1183
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it.

1184
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: I really don't. And so the question is, Okay, you're

1185
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: either going to do You're going to pick two names

1186
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: from a hat. On defense, you.

1187
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: Aret Ruben Foster. Okay, we can go with any great yeah,

1188
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: or you could go on the offensive side. And on

1189
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: the offensive side, I guess the quarterback would have to

1190
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: be Tua. It could be to It could be Mac Jones,

1191
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: it could be a Ja mcchaerron. I think what probably

1192
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: isn't Greg McElroy. It's not Greg McElroy, No, probably not

1193
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: with John Parker Wilson, probably not.

1194
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: Him, and then who else is it? Because they've had

1195
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: an incredible, just roster of ridiculous wide receivers, the running

1196
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: backs have been equally as absurd.

1197
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 2: So you you have you rooted for a team in

1198
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: the postseason against both uh like guys. I mean, whether

1199
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: it's Julio Jones, whether it's Devonte Smith, whether it's Calvin Ridley,

1200
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: whether it's Amari Cooper, who is if I forgot about

1201
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper who puts the fear of life into your

1202
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 2: brain as Notre Dame takes the field on defense against Alabama.

1203
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: Is it DeVante Smith? Is it Julio?

1204
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's either Julio or Amari Cooper.

1205
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh, Okay, Davante Smith almost singularly being noted he did

1206
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: three months ago.

1207
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I just it doesn't matter you pick any

1208
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: of these guys. And the thing is, I still don't

1209
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: know if would you take any combo here from Alabama

1210
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: over Adrian Peterson, Kyler Murray.

1211
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: Because that's what it comes down to. No, not necessarily, Okay.

1212
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson at his absolute apex was as physically dominant

1213
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: and scary a running back as we've seen. What I

1214
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 2: don't know what his measurable measurables were as a freshman

1215
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: in college. Well, he was one of the two to

1216
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: two ten whatever it was.

1217
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: He was one of the guys who if they would

1218
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: have let him, he'd have gone pro yes, instead of

1219
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: going to playing college, which he probably could have not

1220
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: most people can't, but he probably could have swung it.

1221
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I I have a hard time picking almost

1222
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: anybody over Peterson and Kyler. But if we're gonna do it,

1223
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna come from the Bama's side because they're just

1224
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: so loaded all the time. You get to pick the two,

1225
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: I'll let you pick the two.

1226
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: Uh. Just for the record, we didn't mention Heisman winner

1227
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: mark ingram or Heisman winner. It's Derrick Henry.

1228
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 1: It's an embarrassment of riches. Right, so you pick, go ahead.

1229
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: I am going to go.

1230
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: Kyler Peterson. I'm doing it over double first round pick. Yeah, right,

1231
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 2: your your entry Alabama?

1232
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah what but who for Albama? Oh? For who am

1233
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: I going to pick from Alabama?

1234
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1235
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: What's your duo.

1236
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 2: To uh and Davante. There's an effortlessness that is so

1237
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 2: scary that a.

1238
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: Little bit of recency bias there, it's okays, a total

1239
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: recency bias.

1240
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: Fine, and it's a much more wide old you know

1241
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: the Sark offense. If you know Julio Jones were in

1242
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: the sark offense. What are we talking about? So, man,

1243
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 2: I don't know who is the who is the offensive

1244
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,520
Speaker 2: coordinat Really it was like a Doug nuss Meyer and Jamackawayne.

1245
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: That was that era of Alabama football. Right, Yeah, I'm

1246
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: gonna stick with Davante And I know it's recency, but

1247
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: it's you know, the the scariest guy is the small guy, right,

1248
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: It's it's the guy with that looks like he has

1249
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 2: nothing to lose and just isn't backing down from the

1250
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 2: big dude. It's you know, it's the Mangos taking down

1251
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 2: the Cobra. I'm gonna I'm just I'm gonna go with

1252
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 2: Devonte Smith and Tua.

1253
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: Okay, and you're taking you're taking them over Oklahoma or.

1254
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 2: No, I'm taking Kyler and Adrian Peterson. I think that's

1255
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 2: I think that's the combo. It's impossible, Like I cannot

1256
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 2: make a strong case for it.

1257
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: There is no.

1258
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: Strong, relevant, sensical case for either of these over each other.

1259
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: Kyler was smaller, but Monty Smith is smaller.

1260
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: All right. Well, then that brings us to Ohio State

1261
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 1: and Clemson.

1262
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

1263
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: I think the obvious pairing on the Clemson side and

1264
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: I know you got Nuke Hopkins here. I loved him.

1265
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins at Clemson, I just I don't know. I

1266
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: feel like he was kind of like a different order

1267
01:09:54,680 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: of magnitude. I think it's Sammy Watkins and Sean Deshaun Watson, okay.

1268
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 1: Or it could be Trevor Lawrence too, that's the other thing, wow.

1269
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 2: Or could be Christian Wilkins and Vic Beasley. I mean

1270
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: Vic Beasley all American. Christian Wilkins incredible, can do the splits? Right?

1271
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: Have we shown enough love to a giant and scary

1272
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,879
Speaker 2: defensive front combination? I don't know if we have definitely

1273
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: have not bred venables Christian Wilkins, Vic Beasley off the edge.

1274
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: But then you want to talk you know, Kevin Dodd

1275
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 2: and Shaq Lawson and all these guys. You know that Cleveland.

1276
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: Furl, little furl.

1277
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 2: Austin Briant like all these like there's a ton of

1278
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,879
Speaker 2: options along that defensive line.

1279
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:51,839
Speaker 1: And do I go to Shawn, do I go Trevor Lawrence.

1280
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 2: I'm going to Shawn Watson. There's something about his running

1281
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: ability and how clutch he was, and this is true.

1282
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. If this is a true

1283
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: NBA jam type of setup, having that versatility of the

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Speaker 1: Sean Watson. And that's not to say that Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: couldn't run.

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Speaker 2: Man, Trevor Lawrence ran had like a sixty five yard touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Know that he Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: You know that he could run. But I'll go to

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Speaker 1: Sewan here for for the sake of argument. Sean and Sammy,

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Speaker 1: who do you want on the Ohio State side?

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Speaker 2: Man? Okay, so you have this incredible run of defensive linemen,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know if there's an Is there a

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle that you would pair with one of the

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Speaker 2: Bosa brothers or Chase Young? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Could you pair one of the Bosas with Chase Young?

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Speaker 1: They both played end? I mean, can we move them

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Speaker 1: around like it's a depth chart.

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Speaker 2: I mean they did move around some on passing downs,

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Speaker 2: but I think they are all They're all true ends.

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Speaker 2: I believe for Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: There are two ends on the field at the same time.

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Speaker 2: I understand, but we're talking complimentary. You get the pick,

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01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: you get the planning up next to each other.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you pick.

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Speaker 2: So the other side is you want Braxton Miller? Do

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Speaker 2: you want Justin Fields, and it's probably Michael Thomas. But

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Speaker 2: we can have a conversation about Devin Smith. You know,

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Speaker 2: I would say Fields and Thomas, Fields and Thomas, Dan

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01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: Sands and Bacher not sneaking into your text.

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. Okay, is that your pick Fields and Thomas?

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01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: There have been so many good oh Man, the corners

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01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: and safety and Denzel Ward, Willie Hooker, like, all these

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01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: guys incredible. Yeah, I'm gonna go Justin Fields and Michael Thomas,

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: But I just I hate this offensive bias that we're

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Speaker 2: showing Fields.

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Speaker 1: And Thomas versus DeShawn Well. Hold on, who are who

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01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 1: are the actual like? Who is the actual scariest recent

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01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: Ohio in the last twenty years Ohio state player? Is

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01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: it Chase Young? So we're just ignoring that fact. Might

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01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,560
Speaker 1: be one of the bosas.

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Speaker 2: But Nick didn't play a ton obviously, he sat out

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01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: after getting hurt with a serious injury his final season,

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Speaker 2: Joey was incredible. It's probably Chase Young in terms of

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01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: pure scariness, not necessarily production.

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01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: He was double team.

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01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: He was just the guy you want lining up in

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01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: your uniform. It's probably Chase Young above all the other

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01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 2: guys available, right, Okay. So at that point, I'm just

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01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 2: gonna choose, I mean, what you want, Hankins or Adolphus Washington,

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Speaker 2: some guy like that.

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01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: All right, I'm redoing the sheet here, shoe Okay, Hankins, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't either way. I don't think anyone's beating to

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01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: Shawn and Sammy.

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01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: Michael Thomas did not have like a nineteen hundred yard

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01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: receiving season for a.

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Speaker 1: House he date, he did. He came into his own

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01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 1: even more so when he got through the NFL. Yeah,

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: the Drew Brees. I think you gotta go to Shawn

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01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: and Sammy here. That's the only way to fly.

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01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: Um. I think new Hopkins was better at Clemson than

1341
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 2: Sammy Watkins. But I defer to you.

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01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to Sean and Sammy and there might pick

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01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: to go through.

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01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna use my override in this round.

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01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna plug in Georgia against Iowa and the

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01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: offensive line tandem.

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01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: So we got so now we have to decide who

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01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: actually So Georgia gets a bye for.

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01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: Some reason, right, Georgia against Iowa.

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,480
Speaker 2: Do you think the Iowa duo is the weakest.

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01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: No, I just picked out of a hat here. Oh okay,

1352
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: eventually they're going to have to play someone better anyway.

1353
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: So it's Stafford and AJ Green against the worst and

1354
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: shrif combo from Iowa, which scares you more.

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01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 2: I think the Iowa offensive line all right, done, done done.

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: There was an inconsistent nature to that time in Georgia football.

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 2: If I'm remembering correctly, I know that two thousand and

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01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 2: seven eight team with Matt Stafford that just absolutely shelled

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01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: to why they're incredible, the best of AJ Green but

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01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: AJ Green also But no, we're not talking about production.

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01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 2: We're not talking about the ability to stay on the field.

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01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:24,919
Speaker 2: We're talking about pure scariness. I'd rather build a team

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01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 2: around the Iowa offensive line. Yeah, I'm doing that.

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01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,879
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Speaker 1: I will put together this list, and we will get

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Speaker 1: to the deeper rounds of this here competition on our

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Speaker 1: Wednesday show.

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01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,559
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