WEBVTT - #895 Packers Unscripted: First week review

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spaffer, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you

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<v Speaker 1>here from the Potawadi Sportsbooks Studio, and I'll start off

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<v Speaker 1>the show with an apology for all of our regular

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<v Speaker 1>listeners and watchers. We were supposed to have a show

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<v Speaker 1>last Thursday, and in fact, we shot a show last Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting right here in these very chairs. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>post production phase of things, something went haywire with regard

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<v Speaker 1>to how the show got recorded. It was all messed up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just so happened that last Thursday, between practice

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<v Speaker 1>and Packers Hall of Fame inductions and all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff going on, Wes and I did not have

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<v Speaker 1>time to reshoot the show, so we ended up just

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<v Speaker 1>having to scrap it and skip it and say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna come back next Tuesday full force. So, Wes,

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<v Speaker 1>what that means is that we have a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about on this show because now there are five

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<v Speaker 1>training camp practices in the books since our last show.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first one in Pads taking place on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>and there will be another one in pads shortly after

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<v Speaker 1>we turn the cameras off in here, So I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>throw it out to you. I want to talk you know,

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the ball, special teams, everything, just your

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<v Speaker 1>your key takeaways, guys that are standing out, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you are taking note of through these first five practices,

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<v Speaker 1>What is top of mind for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The one thing we're doing this before practice six today,

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<v Speaker 2>at the time in which we're taping this is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is training camp fifteen for me now. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if through the first week there's ever been

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<v Speaker 2>an energy quite like the one that I've felt out

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<v Speaker 2>there at Nichki Field. I think part of that credit

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<v Speaker 2>to the fans. I think has been an unbelievable atmosphere

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<v Speaker 2>that the fans have provided. The turnout has been fantastic,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt, you know, and that's a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>it too, But also just I think it's a mixture

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of young, hungry guys and also guys

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<v Speaker 2>who have been here three four years now kind of

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<v Speaker 2>becoming their own player and setting their own tone. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there was one guy that we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>to last week. This past week, Kamal Hadden. So Kamal

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunate had a terrible ankle injury at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>last season, but that was a rough one. Starts the

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<v Speaker 2>year on pup and he makes his return at practice

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<v Speaker 2>and we're talking to him afterwards, and we're going through

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<v Speaker 2>this talk about what happened in that game against Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, rhetorically to himself, He's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had to do it all over again, I would,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, that's what I got to do. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to set the tone for my team. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>make the play. It was my responsibility to take on

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<v Speaker 2>that crack block. I have to be there. And it

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<v Speaker 2>just seems to me that that sort of underscores the

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<v Speaker 2>mentality this football team. Obviously, you don't want to get injured,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just that everybody understands their role and understands

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<v Speaker 2>what their job responsibilities are, and I think are maximizing

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<v Speaker 2>these snaps early on. So, whether it's Jordan Love, I

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<v Speaker 2>think has had a really good pace with the offense

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<v Speaker 2>so far, whether it's Xavier McKinney who picked off Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Love for the first time in team periods on two

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday. Yeah, I've just really liked the level of

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<v Speaker 2>compete and as we transition now into the full padded

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<v Speaker 2>portion of practice, of the full padded portion of training camp,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just really excited to see what these guys can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's interesting that you bring up the intensity.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I definitely felt the intensity ratchet up a

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<v Speaker 1>notch when the full pads went on for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time on Monday, and that's not unusual. That happens quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. But I hear what you're saying too about

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<v Speaker 1>those first four practices that were, you know, more of

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<v Speaker 1>like the glorified OTAs, you know, where it's not full contact.

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<v Speaker 1>But and I guess maybe it's a combination of things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's you have a new defensive coordinator, you're

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<v Speaker 1>installing a new defense, you have a new special teams coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>so the special teams period's taking on a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>different look with some different drills and other things going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And you go back to what Matt Lafleur said way

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<v Speaker 1>back I believe it was in March when you were

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<v Speaker 1>with him in Phoenix at the Owners. I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about breaking down the offense all the way back

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<v Speaker 1>down to like square one to the basics, and then

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding what the playbook is going to be for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six. Maybe it's just a combination of all those

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<v Speaker 1>things that there's just you know, there's kind of something

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<v Speaker 1>different in the air this year in terms of the preparation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just different the preparation to get to get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the upcoming season. I'm totally with you on the

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<v Speaker 1>way Jordan Love has looked he I mean, things look sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the interception by McKinney, great diving play by McKinney,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the only like off target throws. We can

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<v Speaker 1>probably count him on one hand so far through all

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<v Speaker 1>these practices, the off target throws that Love has made,

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<v Speaker 1>and McKinney happened to make him pay for that one

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<v Speaker 1>when he missed Jade and read over the middle. But

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<v Speaker 1>when talking about the offense, and again the pads have

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<v Speaker 1>only been on for one day, so it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about the guys in the trenches just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, what I've seen out there on the

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<v Speaker 1>practice field from Matthew Golden and Christian Watson at wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver has impressed the heck out of me. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. With both of those guys, it hasn't looked

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<v Speaker 1>like the first week of camp. It's looked more like

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<v Speaker 1>the first month of the regular season what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>them do. And hopefully that is just the beginning and

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<v Speaker 1>things are going to progress from here. But I've just

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<v Speaker 1>been really impressed with the plays that Golden and Watson

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<v Speaker 1>continue to make day after day after day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think for Golden one, it's just what

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<v Speaker 2>you and I expected, right, I mean, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get more opportunities, He's going to be running more with

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love this year. His hands, he has such good hands,

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<v Speaker 2>he has such good separation for a young guy. He

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<v Speaker 2>runs the route tree really well. You can use him downfield,

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<v Speaker 2>you can use him across the middle. That's all to

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<v Speaker 2>be expected. What I've really liked with Christian Watson in

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<v Speaker 2>particular is this looks like a guy that has taken

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<v Speaker 2>steps to becoming a complete wide receiver. Now that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just that, Okay, he's a six foot four guy

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<v Speaker 2>that runs in the four threes. No, Christian Watson is

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<v Speaker 2>making an impact. He's using that speed to stretch the field,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's using it to go sideline to sideline

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<v Speaker 2>on guys he's catching underneath routes. I just feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>as much as we've focused this offseason on the transition

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<v Speaker 2>at receiver and Romeo Dobs and Dontevin Wicks being gone

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<v Speaker 2>and Okay, this is going to be the nucleus, it's

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<v Speaker 2>also how those guys fit together and the various ways

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<v Speaker 2>that you can use those three and to branch off

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<v Speaker 2>for your thoughts on the offense, and I actually I

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<v Speaker 2>thought you raised one of the best points that I

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<v Speaker 2>think we've had so far during training camp during three

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<v Speaker 2>things yesterday when you were talking about the early periods

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<v Speaker 2>of team. First time they're in the you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>spider pad, what you know, the full pads. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they've done all these things the last few days, and

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like the offensive line that, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>with some of that run stuff, it seems they're playing

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<v Speaker 2>with the chip on their shoulder. And when you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about rebuilding the the playbook and the game plan a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, it seems like the Packers are getting back

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<v Speaker 2>to maybe some of their original principles with the inside

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<v Speaker 2>zone run, some of the things that Josh Jacobs is

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<v Speaker 2>doing in Marshall Lloyd knock on Wood being able to

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<v Speaker 2>get through this first week of practice with no injuries

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<v Speaker 2>so far looking really good, looking really explosive. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>not even talking about the fact that Tucker Kraft was

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<v Speaker 2>elevated off of pup. Not in the team periods yet,

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<v Speaker 2>not in that mix yet. Packers are weathering a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of injuries at tight end, but when it comes to receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>running back, quarterback, the positions where Green Bay probably is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to lean on here throughout training camp based

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<v Speaker 2>on how much they're going to have Craft out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's been a really really good start for

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<v Speaker 2>that unit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I mean it's been good to see certain guys

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<v Speaker 1>get back into practice Craft being one at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the list. We've seen DeVante Wyatt in practice, though

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<v Speaker 1>he's not doing eleven on eleven either. We've seen formerly

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<v Speaker 1>known as Zach Tom now Zach Baco Bewelli, changed his

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<v Speaker 1>last name to honor his uh, honor his heritage on

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<v Speaker 1>his father's side. He's back at practice, but also not

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<v Speaker 1>doing team eleven on eleven yet. You mentioned Kamal Hadden

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<v Speaker 1>has come back still, you know, some injury concerned with

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<v Speaker 1>with Luke Musgrave and you know Javon Hargrave isn't isn't

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<v Speaker 1>back out there, you Jordan Riley, you know, another one

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<v Speaker 1>with with a tough, tough injury late last season. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, not everybody is back, but but it's

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<v Speaker 1>been good to see and and you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I made the comment to you yesterday, it might

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<v Speaker 1>have been somebody else I was talking to a practice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're all waiting for whenever Tuckerkraft is going

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<v Speaker 1>to get the green light for the eleven on eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>And it just feels like once he does the first

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<v Speaker 1>like four or five passes in a rower going his

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<v Speaker 1>way right, it's like, it's all right, Tuck, you're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what you got, you know. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like they are going to they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>push him to get him ready. Not that he does

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<v Speaker 1>and push himself obviously, but he is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>pushed to get ready to contribute in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>he's expected to and believed to within this offense. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think even he's not in the eleven on eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's just a little bit of extra juice to

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<v Speaker 1>some of those drills just because Tucker Craft is on

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<v Speaker 1>the field.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not just the tight end drills. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>noticed that. I mean, one thing I like about Tuck

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know if this is the training staff,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's him. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's something he's talked about with the assistant coaches or

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<v Speaker 2>what John Dunn. You see him sort of just going

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<v Speaker 2>around the practice field in these periods where he can't

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<v Speaker 2>be out there for team. You know, he's looking at

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<v Speaker 2>some of the individual stuff where they're doing some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>blocking things. He was over with the running backs going

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<v Speaker 2>through the gauntlet with Ben Sermons, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>finishing that out. He was working the blocking shed on

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<v Speaker 2>his own. There's no wasted minute with him. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think when you look at his preparation and his recovery,

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of just, you know, is what he's done

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<v Speaker 2>all off season to put himself in this position. The

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<v Speaker 2>other thing I thought that was really interesting, and again

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<v Speaker 2>kudos is Zach Bakubawell got to make sure work on

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<v Speaker 2>that one. B Well, if it wasn't for the name change,

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the big headlines coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>that media scrum of his he thinks in the next

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<v Speaker 2>week or so, he'll be back in team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So a guy that had a pretty significant pateller tear

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<v Speaker 2>injury last year. Now he's getting closer to being back

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<v Speaker 2>in the fold while Darian Kinnard's been taking those snaps

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<v Speaker 2>so far. So pads are on. Guys are gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>banged up. You're gonna see that injury. Let's get a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit longer than it's been. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Packers were able to navigate the off

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<v Speaker 2>season program the way they wanted to, and you're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>them get their nucleus, that core on the field here

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<v Speaker 2>in August.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's been great. You mentioned him already. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been great to see what Marshawn Lloyd has brought to

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<v Speaker 1>the table. I mean there have been certain plays, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on a handoff, when it develops a certain way, you

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<v Speaker 1>see him when he hits that extra gear. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>that common of the shiftiness and the explosiveness anytime the

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<v Speaker 1>ball's in his hands. And you know, we're all knocking

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<v Speaker 1>on wood here. Of course, everybody's rooting for this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>not only on a personal level, but because Marshall Lloyd

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<v Speaker 1>can really really be a factor in this offense. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. We're seeing it already, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and fingers crossed that it comes to fruition.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers need to get Chris Brooks out there too.

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<v Speaker 2>He's such a well rounded player. He works on teams

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<v Speaker 2>and the offense. But you know, way it almost kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feels like one of the silver linings to Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately starting pup with on pup with the hamstring is

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like they had to kind of they had

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<v Speaker 2>to push Marshaw Lloyd out there. I mean, because this

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<v Speaker 2>is undisputed. It's those two guys at the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the depth chart there with Josh Jacobs. He's had to

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<v Speaker 2>take first team reps. He's had to take second team

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<v Speaker 2>team reps, and they obviously had a formula for him

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<v Speaker 2>during the offseason program. There'd be days where he would

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<v Speaker 2>do team. There was days when he wouldn't. For the

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<v Speaker 2>first week of camp, he's been off the chain here.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been allowed to just kind of be himself and

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<v Speaker 2>be a running back again. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to get to the preseason games. You gotta

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<v Speaker 2>get through training camp. But the more and more you

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<v Speaker 2>stack these days, you just gotta feel like Marshawn is

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<v Speaker 2>feeling more and more confident about the changes he made

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<v Speaker 2>this offseason, the training and how he's altered his approach

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully how he's able to play in actual NFL

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<v Speaker 2>games this season.

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<v Speaker 1>First five practices Defensive side of the ball. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start with this one because everybody always wants to know

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<v Speaker 1>in training camp, who's the underdog story, right, Who's the

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<v Speaker 1>who's the guy coming out of nowhere? Who's gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>for a really tough decision for the personnel department right

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<v Speaker 1>when the when the decisions are made, roster decisions are made,

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<v Speaker 1>the cut down to fifty three. Now we are just

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<v Speaker 1>a week into things. There is a long way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You just said it in relation to Marshawn Lloyd. There

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<v Speaker 1>is the preseason games and all that, but you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>help but notice Anthony Campbell, young defensive lineman. He's listed

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<v Speaker 1>at six foot six three oh seven. He is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>all of six foot six, and I believe the three

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven is a bit understated. I'm guessing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's probably fifteen to twenty pounds heavier than that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's he's a big, big man. But he

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<v Speaker 1>is making an impact now. He you know, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>on every unit from the threes of the twos to ones.

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<v Speaker 1>He rotates in with the ones, sometimes he's with the

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<v Speaker 1>reserve units. He continues to pressure, get pressure up the

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<v Speaker 1>middle and knock passes down. At the line of scrimmage yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>that six foot six, three hundred plus pound frame is

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<v Speaker 1>chasing to Rod Taylor out of the pocket and keeping

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<v Speaker 1>up with him and forcing him to throw the ball

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<v Speaker 1>away along the sideline. This is a guy you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>him in our in the three Things video. After practice yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>completely under the radar acquisition. It was the first week

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<v Speaker 1>of January and the Packers just signed him to the

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad. Yeah, like an acquisition when the Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>is getting ready for the playoffs and all this, nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to it at all. And now here we

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<v Speaker 1>are seven months later and this is a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting noticed on the practice field and getting

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<v Speaker 1>some reps with the first unit with some of those

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<v Speaker 1>other defensive tackles, not in the eleven on eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was funny. Was talking denied Dennis Sutton, the

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<v Speaker 2>Packer's rookie edge rusher, yesterday, and he was we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about him rushing on the interior and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he has some versatility there, can go inside outside, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just so funny. Out of nowhere, without being

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<v Speaker 2>prompted at all, He's like, yeah, then you got like

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<v Speaker 2>ac and he's got like three batted balls a day

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<v Speaker 2>right now in these practices. And here's what's so interesting

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<v Speaker 2>about this kid. And we're gonna watch him. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>how he obviously does. In the preseason, he played in

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<v Speaker 2>community college ball. Goes to Louisiana Monroe in the rotation there,

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<v Speaker 2>transfers to Miami. Plays two years at Miami, and when

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<v Speaker 2>I say plays, I use that term rather loosely. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of watching. His senior year, he had a

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<v Speaker 2>half sack that accounted for his only tackle in eight games.

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<v Speaker 2>He did have a pass deflection though that season two.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, and this is a credit to Brian Goodcuns.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also a credit to John Schneider. I mean, these

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<v Speaker 2>are the guys, these are the gms out there that

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<v Speaker 2>leave no stone unturned. And Schnyder signed him as an

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<v Speaker 2>undrafted rookie last year. He got through training camp, he

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<v Speaker 2>was on the peace squad Seattle eventually lets them go

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<v Speaker 2>in Green Bay. How many times you're talking about these

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<v Speaker 2>practice moves? How many times, Mike, once you get to

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<v Speaker 2>the second half of the season, do we see a

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<v Speaker 2>guy signed one week and then cut the next and

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<v Speaker 2>then they flip? You know, they just are always turning.

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<v Speaker 2>They're always looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys constant and that part of the roster during the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>And here is Anthony Campbell, now, you know, maximizing those

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<v Speaker 2>third team reps and is going to probably get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of playing time in the preseason. You would imagine

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<v Speaker 2>and for sure the one thing, and I wrote about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're gonna transition to some of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the first team stuff, but I wrote about this on

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<v Speaker 2>packers dot com today. You know Chris mcclollin, the Packers'

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<v Speaker 2>rookie third round pick. When you look at Warren Brinston

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<v Speaker 2>six rounder from last year, you know Nziers Stackhouse, undrafted

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<v Speaker 2>guy for last year. All these dudes in the interior

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<v Speaker 2>defensive line have had opportunities to rotate in right now

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<v Speaker 2>because unfortunately, as you talked about why it's not back

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<v Speaker 2>in team yet, and Javon Hargrave has been on pup

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<v Speaker 2>with a knee injury. Those two guys, when they're healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>that is going to be dudes that are gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>playing on first, second, and third down and form or fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that these young guys have been able to

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<v Speaker 2>get these opportunities, the trickle down is guys like Campbell

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<v Speaker 2>now in the second third team units being able to

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<v Speaker 2>get some you know, some shots as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's one of the biggest things I've noticed

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<v Speaker 1>as far as this, and it's partly injury driven, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because of guys who are out and not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not full fledged participants. In practice yet and whatnot. But

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<v Speaker 1>it seems as Jonathan Gannon is going through the installation

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<v Speaker 1>of this defense, he is doing a lot of rotating

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<v Speaker 1>with the first unit he's he's rotating. I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the vast majority of the draft picks, whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking Brandon Cisa at corner, you mentioned Deny, Dennis Sutton

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<v Speaker 1>on the edge, Chris McClellan in the middle, all these

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<v Speaker 1>rookie draft picks are getting some snaps with the ones.

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<v Speaker 1>CSA getting more now in addition to just the previous

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<v Speaker 1>rotation because Carrington Valentine is currently out with a hamstring injury.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sisa is lining up regularly opposite Keishawn Nixon with

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<v Speaker 1>the number one defense. But the the constant rotation it

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<v Speaker 1>feels to me, and again this is just my two

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<v Speaker 1>bit analysis from the sideline, but it seems to me

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<v Speaker 1>a very intentional effort on the part of the coaches

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<v Speaker 1>to engage as many players as possible in the installation

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<v Speaker 1>of this defense. Get as many guys as possible in

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<v Speaker 1>the huddle with Zaire Franklin, with Xavier McKinney, with the

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<v Speaker 1>guys who are calling the shots, and the guys who

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, yelling and hollering, and you know Evan Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys who are you know, getting everybody aligned. The

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<v Speaker 1>more guys that are in the huddle and on the

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<v Speaker 1>field with those guys on a regular basis, the more

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<v Speaker 1>they're engaged in this whole installation process. I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's partly injury driven, but I also think it's

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<v Speaker 1>partly intentional.

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<v Speaker 2>Just love it all around because like you're seeing when

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<v Speaker 2>you look Againnon's scheme right now, we've I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>with Xavier McKinney about this last week, and also Javon Bullerd,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, has been mentioning it to some guys too.

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<v Speaker 2>Keishaw Nixon went out of his way to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like almost an emphasis that it's like there's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be three safeties. We're going to go three safety that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be our base front. We're going to learn

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<v Speaker 2>how to defend the run against it. We're gonna look

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<v Speaker 2>at being able to be multiple with it. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna be Jivon Bullard as a slot cornerback. He's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy blitzing. They're gonna send different guys and they

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<v Speaker 2>want to see how many guys Okay, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>your starters can do, but when you get down further

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<v Speaker 2>down the depth chart, guys that you might have to

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<v Speaker 2>rely on in week eight, week twelve, week fifteen, who

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna be the guys that could potentially step in

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<v Speaker 2>and stand out? And that's been the beauty of what

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<v Speaker 2>he's been able to look at this training camp. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to have Micah Parsons, you want to have Why,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to have Hardgrave, You want to have these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Carrington valand you want to have them all available,

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<v Speaker 2>but sometimes you're not. And who's gonna be the next

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<v Speaker 2>guys up? And are they gonna be ready for those shots?

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<v Speaker 2>Se say Dennis Sutton McClellan. These guys are all dudes

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<v Speaker 2>that have been running with the first team unit since

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<v Speaker 2>the offseason program. Yeah, that's a lot of snaps that

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<v Speaker 2>they've been able to stack up. And there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>come a day here if everything works out, where they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be on the second team unit and it will

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<v Speaker 2>be guys taking those first team reps and they're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be able to rotate in there as frequently, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know when they're need them on second down in

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<v Speaker 2>the third quarter in Week three against the Atlanta Falcins.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna need to find guys that can eat snaps

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<v Speaker 2>for you, that can contribute. And I just I like

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<v Speaker 2>everything about gannon scheme so far. I think Halfley did

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<v Speaker 2>a tremendous job of implementing what he wanted to do here,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did it very well.

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<v Speaker 1>And did a lot of adjusting a lot of adjusting

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<v Speaker 1>along the way too.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's something about gannon scheme that it is just the

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<v Speaker 2>unpredictability of it. It's just very intriguing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think one of the things that intrigues me

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<v Speaker 1>the most, and you made me think of it because

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about this whole three safety thing and

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<v Speaker 1>how they're doing this. The combination, the combination of Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Williams and Javon Bull are both going into year three here.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen what both of them are capable of. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of NFL football under their belts in

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<v Speaker 1>their first in their first two years in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>where they are in their own maturation process as professional

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<v Speaker 1>football players. And then the combination of Jonathan Gannon's scheme

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<v Speaker 1>what we might see out of guys like Evan Williams

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<v Speaker 1>and Javon Bullard could be pretty impressive this year. We

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<v Speaker 1>might be spending a lot of time talking about those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right in one of the things. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not an indictment on Halfley. He was brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>with how he dialed things up, but it was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Evan Williams is the free safety. But if you go

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<v Speaker 2>back to his makeup at Fresno State, at Oregon, he

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<v Speaker 2>was used in a lot of different ways. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that did get after the quarterback at times.

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<v Speaker 2>The way he's built, he has those attributes. And what

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<v Speaker 2>I really like about Bullard, and you've underscored this in

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<v Speaker 2>some of your copy and some of our videos that

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about, is there was a time, Mike, when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about Charles Woodson in that nickel role, you

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<v Speaker 2>think about Casey Hayward as a defensive Rookie of the

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<v Speaker 2>Year candidate in twenty twelve out of the slot, There's

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<v Speaker 2>been a time where that slot, or what Tom Capers

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<v Speaker 2>used to call the star position, that was a marquee position.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to have one of your best players playing

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<v Speaker 2>that spot. The Packers have gone through transitions, they've had

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<v Speaker 2>undrafted rookies. They've had different players. You know, Shandon Sullivan

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<v Speaker 2>played that role at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>Where they've taken a guy like Morgan Burnett and moved

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<v Speaker 1>in there because they didn't really have a better option.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Javon Bullard has made that his home. He

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<v Speaker 2>has embraced that role. When you talk about okay, yeah, interceptions,

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<v Speaker 2>when you talk about coverage, that's all involved in it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also about how you chase down running backs.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also about the tone you set up front, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think Bullard gives them that flexibility too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's going to be exciting. Again, it's really early.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even know how much, if at all, the

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<v Speaker 1>starters are going to play in the preseason games or

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<v Speaker 1>what we're really going to see until Week one when

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<v Speaker 1>it matters against the Minnesota Vikings. But it's been it's

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<v Speaker 1>been interesting to see the process. And you know, Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Gannon's just out there with his bucket hat on and

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<v Speaker 1>his walkie talkie call in the plays, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just and he's just watching. He's figuring out,

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<v Speaker 1>he's figuring out what his guys do best. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I mean Jordan love and the offense. They've

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<v Speaker 1>had their share of success against Scannon's unit. Ganna's unit

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<v Speaker 1>has taken it to them in certain team periods as well.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of really good back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>out there on the field, which is what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see in training camp. You want to see when

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<v Speaker 1>when one side starts to get the better of it,

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<v Speaker 1>how does the other side respond. We're definitely seeing that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take things go along.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna take some chances too, and it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to see how Packer fans how they responded to that,

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<v Speaker 2>because for so long they're like, well, just send them,

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<v Speaker 2>just do this and do that. And there was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of this ideology with with Halfway that you want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the ball in front of you. Ganning goes big

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<v Speaker 2>at times. I think that's gonna resonate with fans, but

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<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. A couple last thoughts before we go, just

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<v Speaker 1>so we hit on all three phases here through the

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<v Speaker 1>first five practices on special teams. One change up, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, or a couple of them actually, because we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have it. We had talked about it on our

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<v Speaker 1>last show. That ended up getting scrapped. But the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>are actually down to just one kicker on the active roster.

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<v Speaker 2>I called that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Lucas Haversik was released. The German born and his

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<v Speaker 1>name is escaping at the Kreeg Lenny Kreig. Lenny was

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind. I couldn't think of the last name.

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<v Speaker 1>So German born Lenny Kreeg was signed, but then he

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<v Speaker 1>was subsequently released because the Packers need a long snapper

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<v Speaker 1>in camp because Matt Orzik is currently dealing with CAF injury,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing serious, but they want to get him better before

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<v Speaker 1>they push him into action. So cal Adamitis has been

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<v Speaker 1>signed as the long snapper who's now part of the

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<v Speaker 1>operation here in practice until orz It gets better. All

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<v Speaker 1>of that said, we've seen rookie kicker Tray Smack have

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<v Speaker 1>two kicking periods the last couple of days in practice.

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<v Speaker 1>He went three for five in each one. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>went two for three at the end of the various

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<v Speaker 1>two minute drills at the end of practice on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think officially, slash unofficially, he's eight thirteen on

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<v Speaker 1>field goals thus far. A couple things I will say.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those was definitely a bad snap by Adamitis

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<v Speaker 1>when when he missed and another one was a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five yard or where he just flat out mishit the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>And that can happen when a guy is really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to put something extra into it. But it feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fan base is already in a state

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<v Speaker 1>of panic over Tray smacks misses early in camp. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just remind everybody, a there's a long way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>B this time last year, Brandon McManus couldn't miss and

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<v Speaker 1>when push came to shove, it didn't matter because because

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<v Speaker 1>the big kicks that the Packers really needed late in

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the season weren't made. And number three, when the Packers

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>went through this with Andras Carlson a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie sixth round pick, he went five straight games

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<v Speaker 1>in his NFL career before he missed a kick in

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<v Speaker 1>a game and that still didn't work out. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying Tray Smack is the kicker here for the

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<v Speaker 1>next ten years. I'm not saying this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>work out swimmingly. I'm not guaranteeing anybody anything. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying after a couple of practices. Let's just let the

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<v Speaker 1>process play out and let the young man work on

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<v Speaker 1>it for a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I've said it once, and actually I said it last

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<v Speaker 2>week on the show too, when you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>kicking position again, it's so cliche to say, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Packer fans did get spoiled by Mason crosby the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he had a couple down years over the span

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<v Speaker 2>of fifteen years, right, I mean, that really shows you

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of consistency and level headedness that Mason had

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to a heck of a lot of talent.

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<v Speaker 2>The more norm is to go like what the Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>Bears went through, which was they cut ties too early

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<v Speaker 2>on Robbie Gold. They struggled for years to find the

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<v Speaker 2>next kicker, and then they sort of just lucked into

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Cairo Santos and now Santos has been just money for

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<v Speaker 2>them the last couple seasons. It's hard to develop kickers

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<v Speaker 2>in this league. Sometimes guys will come in. You see

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<v Speaker 2>Baits come out of the UF. Oh, and he's been

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<v Speaker 2>a stud for the Lions, right. You see obviously Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>Aubrey come out of you know, major League soccer wherever

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<v Speaker 2>he was from.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And he's obviously soccer player.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been, you know, just absolutely the best kicker in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. He's the highest paid kicker in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Packers are ready to ride the waves here

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<v Speaker 2>with a rookie kicker. The key I think is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be for Smack is just understanding it, narrowing the

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<v Speaker 2>focus and just trying to make sure that it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just about what kicks you make and what cakes you

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<v Speaker 2>kicks you miss. It's about finding improvement. It's about finding

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<v Speaker 2>your rhythm. And the other thing to keep in mind too,

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<v Speaker 2>because of Adamitas coming in, they kicked the first few

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<v Speaker 2>practices either, so we actually are seeing like the very

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<v Speaker 2>first kicks that he's having with a brand new long snapper.

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<v Speaker 2>Two and also shout out to Wes Hokwitz. I called

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers signing cal Adamitis. I just did it four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago after the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, But was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna, I was gonna bring that up. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. I'm glad you did so that I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>forget before we sold that he cal item Adamas was

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<v Speaker 1>on Wes Hogcouizt draft board four years ago and he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's done some snapping for the Bengals, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's been in the league from Clark Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's been. He's been in the league. So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully or z It gets back, they get the operations

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<v Speaker 1>smoothed out all that, and and we see where things

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>are a couple three four weeks from now and not

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<v Speaker 1>perseverate so much over the you know, the Twitter updates

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<v Speaker 1>on this kick and that kick at practice.

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<v Speaker 2>No disrespect by the way to Adamitis, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>when the Packers signed him. We usually don't see two

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<v Speaker 2>long snappers. It kind of reminds you how big Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Orzick is. You almost kind of forget about just as

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<v Speaker 2>as a long snapper goes like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's not small. Is not a small dude, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>But we never saw like these guys, Rick Levado or

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<v Speaker 2>any of these guys together. It's just it was just yeah,

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, that's that's a big he's a big

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<v Speaker 2>long snap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah he is. He is, all right looking on

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