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Speaker 1: and welcome to the program. Mark Vanderber with you and

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Speaker 1: Johnny played high school ball at Lamar Consolidated. He knows

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Johnny? I'm doing great. I could

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Speaker 1: the last time the Texans have drafted a running back

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Speaker 1: was Jante Foreman a twenty seventeen in the third round,

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Speaker 1: adding Ingram to David Johnson, to Dontrell Hilliard to Buddy

430
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Speaker 1: Howell already in that mix. Do you think they eskew

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Speaker 1: it running back or do you think they're happy with

432
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Speaker 1: what they have now? Or do you think a young

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Speaker 1: guy is added through the draft. Johnson, of course as

434
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Speaker 1: an outstanding receiver. They didn't utilize him a lot in

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Speaker 1: that role because Deshaun Watson was thrown to so many

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Speaker 1: white outs and tight ends. They didn't. He didn't have

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Speaker 1: to throw to the running backs. Mark Ingram has catches

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Speaker 1: for fifty forty six fifty eight yards when he was

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans playing for Sean Payton and so egan catch.

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Speaker 1: We all know David Johnson can catch. Dontrell Hilliard is

441
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Speaker 1: more of a third down back, buddy. How special teams?

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Speaker 1: The key is? Does Nick Sarrio want to draft a back,

443
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Speaker 1: say in middle round, he's got multiple picks and a

444
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Speaker 1: couple of rounds, take one like that? Or could he

445
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Speaker 1: find another James Robinson like the Jaguars did last year,

446
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent. But that third back has got

447
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: to play special teams. And if Dontrell Hilliard is a

448
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: third back, he's got to do it. If Cassio drafts somebody,

449
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: he's got to do it. But your two runners and

450
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: receivers right now are set in Johnson and Ingram. Both

451
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Speaker 1: of them have a lot to play for. I assume

452
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Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of veteran players signed

453
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Speaker 1: one years and hope to play well and then get

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Speaker 1: more money in two twenty two when the cap goes

455
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Speaker 1: up significantly from where it is now. So I expect

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Speaker 1: Nicko Sarrio to sign a whole lot more players before

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Speaker 1: free agency begins. John, you mentioned the signing of Justin Britt,

458
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Speaker 1: and then you look at what else they might do

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Speaker 1: in the interior there. I know they have players that

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Speaker 1: they've worked with, but what do you make of that

461
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: situation with the middle three and what it might turn

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Speaker 1: into a twenty twenty one Justin Britt coming off with

463
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Speaker 1: knee surgery. Wh he started for the Seahawks for five

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Speaker 1: years I think, and Zack Foulton played center in Kansas

465
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Speaker 1: City and some people said he was a better center

466
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Speaker 1: than a guard, and last year make Sharping, the left

467
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Speaker 1: guard was tried in training camp at center. I don't

468
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Speaker 1: know if he actually believe in the game, but I

469
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Speaker 1: think you know Zack Fulton is still on the team.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't cost a lot against the cap. Know Whatsario

471
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Speaker 1: has played for the offensive line. But if you signed

472
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Speaker 1: Brett another guy signed a one year deal, I believe

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Speaker 1: I would think you did that with the idea that

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Speaker 1: he would start, and but if you count on faulting

475
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: and guard, to me, you gotta have another center. John

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Speaker 1: Branney Cook's contract restructured to allow the Texans to have

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Speaker 1: a smaller cap hit, just working the avoidable year's concept

478
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Speaker 1: with it that we've seen pop back up. What'd you

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Speaker 1: make of what'd you make of that move in restructuring

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Speaker 1: Brandy Cook's contract, but he sticks around just at a

481
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Speaker 1: lower cap figure. Well, I think that's Grady better stick around.

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Speaker 1: If Fuller's gone, Cooks has got to be there. He

483
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Speaker 1: was their most productive receiver last year, did not have

484
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Speaker 1: injury problems. You know, people gave Bill O'Brian hard time

485
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Speaker 1: about a lot of his personnel moves. Trading the Texans

486
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Speaker 1: too for Cooks was a really good deal. And because

487
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Speaker 1: Cooks came for a big time for Deshaun Watson, didn't

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Speaker 1: he have the injury casues he had before. And it's

489
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Speaker 1: amazing Cooks is like he came in the NFL when

490
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: he's sixteen, that he's still what twenty seven years old

491
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: and had another thousand yard seasons. I look for big

492
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Speaker 1: things from Cooks next season, no matter who the quarterback is.

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Speaker 1: John Well, John Weicks had a statue in Waco and

494
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Speaker 1: in all seriousness, what a tremendous run for the Houston Texas.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts, John Wicks is I may used to make

496
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Speaker 1: jokes and say on six ten, he's the greatest snapper

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Speaker 1: in NFL history. And everybody laughed and said, yeah, he

498
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Speaker 1: went to Baylor, and I said, no, I don't know,

499
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Speaker 1: but he never had one bad snap. When I would

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Speaker 1: go to his locker, we mainly talked about Baylor, and

501
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: I'd bring up he never had a bad snap. He said, Man,

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00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: you're jings and me. We had him on a zoom

503
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Speaker 1: call late last season. I asked him again, man, you're

504
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Speaker 1: jensing me. I said, you've been saying that for years,

505
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Speaker 1: and you've never had a bad snap. The thing about weeks.

506
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Speaker 1: He's been around so long. His minimum was one point

507
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Speaker 1: zero five million, and I bet you if John could,

508
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: he played for five or six hundred thousand, but you can't.

509
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Speaker 1: And I hope a team, and I'd love it to

510
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Speaker 1: be Arizona because that's where he was about to become

511
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: an MT when he after he got out of Baylor

512
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: and he and Amanda were ready to get on with

513
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: their lives and Arizona, and then somebody told him about

514
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: a tryout count camp for snappers, so he like, man,

515
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: what the heck, I'll go, and the Texans had somebody there.

516
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: They signed him. He lasted eleven seasons. First class guy.

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Speaker 1: He wants to keep snapping, and I'm sure he'll be

518
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Speaker 1: able to get on with somebody, and I hope. I

519
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Speaker 1: don't know who Arizona Snapper is, but I guarantee not

520
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Speaker 1: better John wakes Secum. Get that in there, John, John.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, like you just said, the Texans don't have

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Speaker 1: a big ticket item and free agency, but they look

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Speaker 1: at players that they can get for one year. I

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Speaker 1: don't say maybe prove it deals. I mean I think

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty sound strategy on both parts, both the

526
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Speaker 1: Texans and also the players, trying to get that long

527
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Speaker 1: term deal, but get the long term deal when the

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Speaker 1: cap does go hopefully up in twenty twenty two. That

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Speaker 1: being set, let's say they don't make a huge, massive

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Speaker 1: splash and their first pick does stay at number sixty seven.

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Speaker 1: You'll have to give me the player. I'll figure out

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Speaker 1: the player. But where would you think is the top

533
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Speaker 1: priority for them at number sixty seven with their first

534
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Speaker 1: pick in the third round. If it stays as is, well,

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Speaker 1: I think that'll probably be their fourth pick. But as

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Speaker 1: it is, if that's the first pick, then I would

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Speaker 1: think it would be a defensive line. I'm in our

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00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: cornerback whoever Cassario ed highest rated, excuse me, So then

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00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: I think that they got two fourth round picks. I

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00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: think one of them. The defense. One of the things

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Speaker 1: to keep in mind by adding mark Ingram go with

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00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: David Johnson and maybe another back, and the wide receiver

543
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: pool and free agency is incredibly deep. They could get

544
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: two for what Will Fuller would have caused the draft.

545
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: The deepest position is wide receiver, so they're going to

546
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: have to have another veteran receiver or a pick at

547
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: receiver depending on what they think about Isaiah Coulter kik

548
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: QT proved himself. I thought, Chad Henson, you know he

549
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: played well watching me up. Those guys look good. But

550
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: they better make sure under James Camp in the new

551
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: line coach that there that their line is good because

552
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: there's a good chance they can be playing with two

553
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: tongue of Alloa or Zach Wilson, depending if they traded

554
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins or the Jets. Since they've got to

555
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: protect those guys, and they've got to run the ball

556
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: better than they did last season, and the defense, of

557
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: course needs the most work. But you have to protect

558
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: the next quarterback because he's going to be somebody that

559
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Speaker 1: you're going to try to sell as the next franchise quarterback.

560
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: And only time will tell, So it wouldn't surprise me

561
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: at all if Cassario does some more work on offense

562
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: and of course defense, you got to have pass rush

563
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: and with four men front, Lovey Smith will play. I

564
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: look for Charles a men who to be ideal for

565
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: what love he does it. Maybe Ross Blacklock will too,

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00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be won't have to play the block as much.

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00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: He'd just get up the field. You know, he was

568
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: a disappointment as a rookie, but a lot of rookies are,

569
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: so they got to have another one. And then they

570
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: load up at corner you know that first game they're

571
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna play. Somebody said maybe the NFL would have him

572
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: go to Arizona and play on national TV for the

573
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Speaker 1: first game. And I'm telling boy, you'd like to have

574
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Speaker 1: He'd like to have Roby when you played the Cardinals,

575
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: since he's not gonna be there for the first game.

576
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure Sarrio will address in numbers cornerback

577
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: and the defensive life. John looking around the league, Mitchell

578
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: Schwartz at Eric Fisher gone from Kansas city your thoughts.

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00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Schwartz was hurt, Fisher is hurt. You know, people get

580
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: mad because players won't out when they're under contract. Here's

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Speaker 1: Eric Fisher gets cut after he blows out as achilles

582
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: in a in a playoff game. So hill boy, I

583
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: can't imagine he'd be able to come back before the

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00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: midway point at the earliest. Schwartz should be healthy. Both

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00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: those guys will get signed. They're fortunate because Lauren duven

586
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: E Cardief is coming back from taking a year off

587
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: the doctor for in Montreal up with COVID nine nineteen,

588
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: so he'll start at one of those spots and both

589
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: of those guys will get jobs. I'm really eager to

590
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: see by the start a free agency on Thursday at

591
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: three o'clock, because at Thursday or Wednesday, it's on Wednesday

592
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: at three o'clock. How many free agents sign? I beg

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00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: we may have record numbers, especially signing one year deals

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00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: and Eric Fisher, excuse me, John, Eric Fisher is a

595
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: good idea, a good example coming off of achilles surgery.

596
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: Maybe he signs one year deal and he spends the

597
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: first half of the season rehabbing, and he plays the

598
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: second half and if he goes with the right team,

599
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: he's playing in the playoffs, and then he can turn

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00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: it into a two a three year deal for more

601
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: money in twenty twenty two. Those are the kind of

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00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: guys I would look for. John. You mentioned him a

603
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: little while ago. Will Fuller, well, how would you handicap

604
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: the chances of him staying as a Texan versus going

605
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: somewhere else? And obviously with the franchise tags going to

606
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson and Chris Godwin, it reduces two receivers, very

607
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: good receivers that could be on the market. What do

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00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: you think the market is for Will if he does

609
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: look outside of Houston? I think two things. Because he's

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00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: at risk of another suspension, which would be for a

611
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: lot more games. He's not gonna get, you know, sixteen

612
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: million average, He's gonna get a lot of per game

613
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: roster bonuses. And if I'm a team that is hoping

614
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: to get Watson liked Chatz Jets got all over seventy

615
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: seven million to spend, and if they trade for Watson,

616
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: they're not going to have their high number one pig,

617
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: maybe not their high number two. Maybe not either number

618
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: one in twenty twenty two, maybe not number one this year.

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Speaker 1: But my point is I would go after Will Fuller

620
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: and Nick Martin. Nick is really tight with Watson. We've

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Speaker 1: written about their relationship before. Both of them have talked

622
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: about it. He's tight with Fuller. And if you're the Jets,

623
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: people say, well, why would they sacrifice draft choices? Will

624
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: they have so much money at a time when the

625
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: free agent pool should be the most impressive since the

626
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: salary cap was implemented in nineteen ninety four. It would

627
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: be a year to have a lot of money, and

628
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: I would start preparing for them. And maybe Miami was

629
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: a third pick. Maybe they did be interested in Will

630
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: Fuller and Nick Martin. I'm not up to date on

631
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: their offensive line or their receivers, but anybody would be

632
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: in the market for Watson. I'd be interested in Fuller,

633
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: and I'd be interested in Mark john What do you

634
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: have going out of the Houston Chronicle. Chronicle I wrote

635
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow about David Culley in the quarterback situation. Aaron Wilson

636
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: wrote about Cully and the assistant coaches who were announced yesterday,

637
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: And then I have a story Sunday going back revisiting

638
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: the DeAndre Hopkins trade and the one year anniversary, and

639
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: we have podcasts and we have a TV show, and guys,

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Speaker 1: you and Johnny. Here we go. Let's talk about something

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Speaker 1: that happened ten years ago today and can you guess

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Speaker 1: NFL history. I don't know. I feel Oh yes, oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: the spring and summer of discontent. Man, you talk about

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Speaker 1: awful my overnight radio show, Mark, I mean, the lockout's

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Speaker 1: I mean it was. I was so bad. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I remember that as a time when I really started

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Speaker 1: the reporters who were following the lockout very closely. And

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Speaker 1: one day Jay Glazer tells everybody to lockout is over,

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Speaker 1: that was I remember that distinctly about Albert Breer, like

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Speaker 1: I think it really, you know, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I felt like that, even though yes, Jay Glazer didn't

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But I remember Jay Glazer breaking that news

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Speaker 1: that the same thought, Mark, oh my gosh, Breer has

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Speaker 1: any games. We weren't sure, and that was kind of

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Speaker 1: We were just trying to talk about stuff that was

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Speaker 1: But I'll never forget that time ten years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: back to that lockout stage even at all. Oh, that

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Speaker 1: It was. It was really, really tough. And I remember

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Speaker 1: bizarre time, all right, Johnny. I don't know if in

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Speaker 1: overcome adversity. But your thoughts on the Ingram signing as

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Speaker 1: You know, it signed justin bridd one year deal that

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Speaker 1: didn't break the bank. You know, mark Ingram you're bringing

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Speaker 1: How much does he have in the tank? Does he

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Speaker 1: If so, man, that contract is a steal in some sense. However,

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