1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome into a brand new episode of 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly, joined by Matt Money Smith as always, or 3 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks away from the NFL Draft in 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Money doing some punter work this morning. Is 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: that correct? Right? That's correct? Watching watching punters getting ready 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: for the draft. Even specialists got to be covered because 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: we do draft recap after every single round, so when 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: punter goes off the board, got to be able to 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: have a little bit of working knowledge with them. So 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: been been working on that all morning. By the last 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: but the last hour, I've watched punters from the likes 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: of Matt Ariza that everybody knows Jordan Stout from Penn 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: State and got a modern day kid in the in 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: the draft this year's Stonehouse. His dad, his grant, his 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: grandfather were both do you want punters? He does it 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: for the for the Rams and maybe he's a potential 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: option to bring in as an undrafted free agent. And 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: saw a couple of other guys that are that are impressive. 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Camarda out of out of Georgia's got just crazy hang time. 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: Um others, look, punter's interesting, right, because if you got 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: a good that you know when I did the Pat 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: McAfee show a couple of months ago or a month ago, 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: when I was out there doing the Big Ten Tournament. 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: I went in and and we brought up a Riza 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: and did I mention this already? And I don't think so, 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: By the way, your appearances there have been very, very strong. 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: So he made a great point. Obviously, Pat's one of 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 1: the greatest punters that ever played in the NFL. Uh 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: And he made a great point. You know, he said, Look, 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna draft the risea if you've got a great defense. 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: He's like, that's that's where the putter value is. He goes, 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: If your defense sucks, what's the point of having a 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: guy that can booted inside the five when the first 34 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: play that they come out and take a step goes 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: for fifteen yards? And he intigated your value of the punter. 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: He's like, so as far as like which teams would 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: draft and use you know, serious draft equity, and by 38 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: that I mean like a third or a fourth to 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: draft the punter. He goes, You're probably looking at a 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: team with an incredible defense and that's how they're gonna play, 41 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: So they're gonna put value there. So you know, I 42 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: just kind of think about the Chargers and how good 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: they are on offense and what they've tried to do 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: here defensively in the offseason, and all the money they 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: have spent on jac Jackson and Sebastian Day and Austin Johnson, 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: and you know, we're going to talk about a couple 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: other guys that they just signed. Like, to me, that 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: might make sense, you know, it may be something that 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: they've circled as Okay, our offense is sizzling, we feel 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: like we've filled the holes we need to fill. On defense, 51 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: they've already got you know, they trade for Khalil Mack, 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: that got Joey Bowse, that got there when James Now 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: they signed j C. Jackson and those two defensive lineman 54 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, maybe there's something we have to 55 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: talk about. You know, maybe punter is in the conversation 56 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: of because especially because they have you know, if you 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: look at the way the Chargers draft picks stack up, 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: they've got those lates, They've got those uh four sevenths 59 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: and two sixths, so so many of these punters that 60 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: could end up is just you know, undrafted free agents. 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: You know, you can use one of those four sevenths 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: on the guy that you like and not have to 63 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: cross your fingers that maybe the guy you like decides 64 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: to join you as an undrafted free agent because he 65 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: knows he's competing for a gig. Well, I know, I'm 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: glad you're looking at punter's plural because when we say punter, 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: the only name I've really heard is Matt Ariza from 68 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: down in San Diego. And that's the guy who you 69 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: probably won't get in the seventh round, right money, Like, 70 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: this is a this is a guy in the middle 71 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: of the rounds. It's probably gonna come off the board. Yeah, 72 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna There's just so much heat on him. 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: He's so different than anybody you've ever seen. He's got 74 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: a just colossal leg. I mean, he kicks the hell 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: out of the ball. But and I was chatting with 76 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: Lanzerline a little bit earlier this morning because he does 77 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: all the draft bios and the grades for NFL dot com. 78 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: So when you click on a name and pull up 79 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: the biot's lance that put that whole thing together, and 80 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: he watches everything himself. So I just kind of shot 81 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: him a note and said, I want to bonce a 82 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: couple of names off you, what do you think? And uh, 83 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: I was kind of happy that that we both agreed. 84 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: He's I said, I think Jordan stops the best punter 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: in the in the draft, and he said absolutely. And 86 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: not that I'm some sort of punter expert. It's just 87 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: we're cutting out the gates hot though. On punt talk, 88 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: I know we'll clip it with this. All I'm saying 89 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: is the Chargers got six picks in the final two rounds, 90 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: and I think that's for people that because it just 91 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: seems like the Charger fans are like, oh, we need 92 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: the punt God, we need matter rise And I'm like, 93 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's if that's gonna work out. Yeah, 94 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: he's San Diego State, he's a local guy, But I 95 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: don't know if that's the way that they'll they'll approach it. 96 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised though, if they use one of 97 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: those six picks in the sixth and seventh round to 98 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: take a swing on on one of these guys. It's 99 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: a position that the Chargers will have to figure out 100 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: as they put this puzzle together. My guys, Blake has 101 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: twenty four year old Assie out of Illinois. He's a 102 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: lefty directional Oh my god, he kicks the hell out 103 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: of the ball. I love him. So that's that's the 104 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: guy that I ended up gravitating to. All right, clip 105 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: that just just in casting case, you know, just in case. 106 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of the AFC West, the big news this week, 107 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: Derek Carr going to be in the division for a 108 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: little bit longer. Signed a three year extension one hundred 109 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: and twenty one and a half million, So Derek gets paid. 110 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels clearly has his guy. I don't know if 111 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: there was really any debate. Maybe there was a little 112 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: bit at the beginning of the tenure of McDaniels his 113 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Car going to be the guy moving forward, But now 114 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: we know the radios are pretty set, DeVante Adams in 115 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: the mix and Car's not going anywhere. I believe he's 116 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: the longest tenured quarterback in the division. Look, I think 117 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: I think the incoming that Derek took, you know, throughout 118 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: his career was warranted. You know, he did not want 119 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: to hold the ball. He wanted to get it out quick. 120 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, you'd see the sizzle reel of you know, 121 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: fourth down plays where he's throwing in the dirt or 122 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: thrown it away or third downs where he's not even 123 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: given his receivers a chance and just getting rid of 124 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: the ball. And that was just the way he operated 125 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: and I think it warranted some of the criticism of him. 126 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 1: But the last two years he's been so much better. 127 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: You know, for whatever reason, he just especially last year, 128 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: he really got out and started letting plays developed down 129 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: feeling a lot look. A lot of that could have 130 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: been the talent that's around him. And when you have 131 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: Darren Waller and Hunter Renfro who are just such tough covers. Yeah, 132 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, I get it. Get the ball out. You know, 133 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: if if Darren breaks press immediately and you see him 134 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: in the scene and you know he's gonna get you 135 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: ten yards after the catch, then go get it. But 136 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: I think in order to just kind of free up 137 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: the offense and get that defense to honor the deep ball, 138 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: you had to start taking some shots. And I felt 139 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: like he did that last year. I'm not surprised he 140 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: got the extension. I do think they they were one 141 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: of the teams sniffing around on Aaron Rodgers and Russell 142 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: Wilson and when and Matthew Stafford last year, and when 143 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: when none of those were able to be put together, 144 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: they probably he just sort of looked at, you know, 145 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: kind of what was available in the draft, what's available 146 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: free agency or trade wise, and that second tier of quarterbacks, 147 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: and we're like, you know what, this guy's pretty freaking good, 148 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: and you know it is starting to win some games, 149 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: so why not. I think the one thing that also 150 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: jumps out to me, though, Chris, is how expensive quarterbacks are, Like, 151 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't Derek's a really good quarterback. I don't think 152 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: he's an elite quarterback. I used the fourth best quarterback 153 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: in the division. So the fact that that guy's making 154 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: forty one million bucks a year, you know, let you 155 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: know why teams like the Chargers and the Bengals and 156 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, you know, that have these young quarterbacks they 157 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: believe in. I think the Dolphins believe into are pushing 158 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: so much money into free agency and doing everything they 159 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: can to draft players that maybe have higher floors and 160 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: lower ceilings to just try to win right now so 161 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: you don't have to do you know what the Chiefs 162 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: are doing, and that's trading away guys like Tyree Hill 163 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: because you got Patrick Mahomes on a forty five million 164 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: a year contract that just picked in and you know, 165 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson two hundred and thirty million guaranteed. That's going 166 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: to change the game for the disaster with these quarterbacks. 167 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And you know the fact that Lamar 168 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: Jackson is up, there's been some talk about that, you know, 169 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: all things considered, I think it's a pretty good deal 170 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: for the Raiders to get a guy for you know, 171 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: it's really untill twenty twenty five, you know, so you know, 172 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: you're really kind of building these next three or four 173 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: years on Derek Carr. He brings in his buddy Davante Adams, 174 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: and you have a new coaching staff and a lot 175 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: of people think Josh mcdannon is going to be a 176 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: pretty good coach his second time around. So yeah, look, 177 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: he's a great offensive coach. There's no denying that he 178 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: had personality issues, personal clashes with players in Denver, and 179 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: they look, they did not do him any favors by 180 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: giving him the keys to the kingdom and letting him 181 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: run the draft and build the roster. I think that 182 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: maybe created a little bit of that Oh I'm I'm 183 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: the ultimate authority, and everybody will answer to me and 184 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: the thing will operate solely as I dictate. Now, he 185 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: did bring his guy with him, so he certainly, you know, 186 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: looks to be in a Pete Carol John Schneider like 187 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: situation where even though Schneider's the GM, you still feel 188 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: like Pete has ultimate say. And maybe that's the case 189 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: with McDaniels, but he's a great coach. Uh. And it's look, 190 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: we talk all about Keenan and Mike and Austin Ekeler 191 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: and Courtland Sutton and Jerry Judy and Albert oh and 192 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: Javonte willing Man. The Raiders got a nasty group of players. 193 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: You know, if you're if we're talking to you know, 194 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: to coach Hill and Coach Staley about what are you 195 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna do about Darren Waller, renfro and DeVante Adam Stelling. 196 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Who the hell knows what we're to do about that? So, yeah, 197 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be another offense. It's gonna be a 198 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: nightmare to try to slow down. Yeah, and they have 199 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: a running game too, and Josh Jacobs to kind of 200 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: control control the offense. Um. Just I want to put 201 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: this out there. I love the fact that the schedule 202 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: release is in May now because it kind of spreads 203 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: out the offseason, and I want the Chargers to play 204 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders Sunday Night Football in Week one and start 205 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season the way it ended. That's 206 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. I want that to happen. Yeah. 207 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: The only so I've been trying to think. I've been 208 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: thinking about this a little bit. And you know, Amazon 209 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: does not get the first Thursday night game. NBC of 210 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: course gets it, it's the kickoff of the season, but 211 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: they get one in Week two. And my guess is 212 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: they want one of these ASC West games to get 213 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: this that. You know, there's just too much heat on 214 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: that division for a huge deal, you know, a paradigm 215 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: shift in the stream only game and how much money 216 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: the NFL can make is they're getting ready to maybe 217 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: sell you know, direct getting ready to sell Sunday ticket 218 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: and red Zone. And if Amazon, you know, is if 219 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: it leaks out that that they do a big number 220 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: and that prime subscriptions are up, that's only going to 221 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: help the NFL. And that's only look, that helps everybody. 222 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: When the NFL gets more money, the players get more money, 223 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: everything out, you know. So I think I wouldn't be 224 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: surprised if it's, you know, because look, the Chargers in 225 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: Chiefs games have been incredible, every single one of them 226 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: since Herbert became the starter. Yeah, the Chargers Raiders Week 227 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: eighteen is still fresh in everybody's mind, you know, is 228 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: the best game that they watched in the regular season. 229 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't quite as good as the Bills 230 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs Divisional round, but it's it was arguably the best, 231 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, not to mention what they did against the 232 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: Browns and the Steelers. So I think the Chargers are 233 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: probably in that, like you know, and plus you know, 234 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: the guy that runs that Thursday Football Mike Mariano, was 235 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: a longtime executive atn FNL network. He's lived here in 236 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: LA for a long time, so he knows the starpower 237 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: justin Herbert's just I'm thinking Week two Chargers Thursday Night 238 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: Football to kick off the Amazon Exclusive season. I think 239 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: that's going to be the case. I like that, and 240 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: it's acceptable because al Michaels it'd be his first game, right, 241 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: so his his last regular season game would have been 242 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: that Chargers Raiders geame. I just think that would be 243 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: in an awesome way to start the twenty twenty two 244 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: season the way that it ended, and maybe the Chargers 245 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: get a little bit of revenge. Hey, we've talked about 246 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: car and DJ had a great tweet this week. When 247 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: you see the costs of quarterbacks and running backs on 248 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: the open markets, what's that cost of wide receivers? Quarterbacks, 249 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: wide receivers. You said running backs all good, It's not 250 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: running backs. It's wide receivers. Right. When you see the 251 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: costs of quarterbacks and wide receivers on the open market, 252 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: it makes drafting in first round and gaining five years 253 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: of control Berry enticing. If the grades are close, teams 254 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: are going to lean in that direction. And it just 255 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: made me think of the Chargers at seventeen. And even 256 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: though this is a down quarterback year, shoot two or 257 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks could go before the Chargers at seventeen or 258 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: maybe there is something around man. I just I saw 259 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: the Saints and the Eagles just they're like surrounding the 260 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Chargers there at seventeen. The fact that we've talked about 261 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: guys like Jamison Williams and Alive and Garrett Wilson and 262 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: Traylan Burkes, all these wide receivers, Drake London that could 263 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: lead the Chargers to maybe getting the cornerback they want 264 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: and Derek Stingley or McDuffie or the right tackle of 265 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: the future. I mean, you think of these positions. The 266 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: Chargers are set at a quarterback, and frankly, they have 267 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl wide receiver and they just paid one 268 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: to be a Pro Bowl wide receiver. So I get 269 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: maybe looking in that direction. But there's a lot of 270 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: needs on this team, and it looks to be setting 271 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: up pretty nicely for them to get an immediate starter 272 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: at seventeen overall money. I think, yeah, I think one 273 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: of the things they've done such a great job of 274 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: is and yes, they still need to sort out the 275 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: right side of the line, but we talked about this 276 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: last week. I don't think we need to rehash it. 277 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: Just the idea that you can kick Matt Matt Feiler 278 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: out and you know, if you resign Odeabushie, now you're 279 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: looking for an interior alignment and those are much easier 280 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: to find than tackles. Right, So if you feel good 281 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: about Filer going to right tackle, then then that frees 282 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: you up right point being signing the two tackles, signing 283 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: a corner, you know, and making sure Mike Williams came back. 284 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: You now truly can do best player available, Like that's 285 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: that's that's fine. If it's a wide receiver, great, If 286 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: it's a corner, great. If Kyle Hamilton somehow tumbles down 287 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: the draft board and you're thinking about Derwin and Kyle 288 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: and one of them is in the box and one 289 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: of them's up high on every single snap, holy god, 290 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, like that's so all of those things are. 291 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: And look if one of the tackles happens to slip, 292 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, if Trevor Penning's there, we've talked about that, 293 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: If Charles Cross is there, I think they'll grab them. 294 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: There's just you know, one of the things that's that's 295 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: always fascinating about the draft and when you go when 296 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: you go back and you start digging through draft history, 297 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: there's certain positions that you find that rarely raise their 298 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: hand outside of the first round. And of all of 299 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: them tackles, one of them, most of your elite tackles 300 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: are drafted in the first round. Yeah, you know, it's 301 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: it's rare error. When you get an elite tackle in 302 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: the third or the fourth, those are guys that you're taking. 303 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: Those are your Trey Pipkins that you're taking your big 304 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: swings now every now and then you'll find one at 305 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: the top of the second because, like you just talked 306 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: about positional value quarterbacks, you know, you end up getting 307 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: five quarterbacks get taken in the first round, and then 308 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: you have a tackle that maybe slides out. But like 309 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: to me, I think that's the other interesting part of 310 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: when you're sitting in that draft room and you've got 311 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: your ten minutes, Okay, what does the depth look like 312 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: on this position? You know, we don't pick again until 313 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: the third round. If you're the Chargers, you know, if 314 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: we don't take our tackle here and we feel like 315 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: we need some depth, you know, and here's Trevor Penning 316 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: or Cross staring at us, I think that's that. Then 317 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: you know you have the luxury of doing that. You know, 318 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: and if you feel good about Filer at right tackle, 319 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: then you can stare at that wide receiver that we've 320 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: talked about. Is it Alave, is it Jamison Williams. If 321 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: he's sitting there, you know that you can draft. Does 322 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: a corner slide you talked about that? You know will McDuffie, 323 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: even though he passes every sing ingle test and checks 324 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: every box. Because he's five ten and a half five eleven. 325 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: Does that cause that little bit of a slip to 326 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: seventeen and he's there. I think Stingley's gonna go. I 327 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: think Stingley's gonna be on the top ten. I think 328 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: probably stealed it. Prode was exceptional. It's gonna come down 329 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: to team medical, and I would assume, you know, if 330 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers team medical is gonna pass him and one 331 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: him at seventeen, there's gonna be another team Medical that 332 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: basses them, and it's like, no, they's a top five talent, 333 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, at a premium position then and he'll end 334 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: up going. So you know it's it's I'm glad you 335 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: mentioned it the tweet from dja's Look, if you end 336 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: up getting four wide receivers that go and you get 337 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: let's just say two quarterbacks, I mean, now essentially you're 338 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: you're picking eleventh when you're talking about d lineman, offensive 339 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: linemen and corners, and when you think about those guys, 340 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, be to guys going to that. You know 341 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: it'd be nice to get another edge guy. But when 342 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: you got mac Bosa to start you off, you're okay, 343 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: and Chris Rump flashed last year, you know, and so 344 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: did Gaziano when when he was you know, so I think, 345 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, I do think they're in 346 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: a position to just go straight best player, and that's 347 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: I just, you know, I agree with DJ man. I 348 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: just I can't I can't watch these quarterbacks and and 349 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: come to the conclusion. And you know, obviously DJ's you know, 350 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: a former scout and and a front office guy, and 351 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: he's been doing this forever, so he knows, you know, 352 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: what he sees a heck of a lot better than 353 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: when I see. I don't even know what the hell 354 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at half the time. But like, you know, 355 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: I've watched quarterbacks every year long enough to know when 356 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm watching Kenny Pickett and and Howell and Matt Corral 357 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: and you know, like the guy that I like most 358 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: out of all of him is Desmond Ritter. And I 359 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: said that when we were at the combine, like just 360 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: standing next to him. He's a little thin, um, he's 361 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 1: a little narrow shouldered, yeah, the Citcinnati guy. Yeah, but 362 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: like that guy looks the part. And I know DJ 363 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: tweeted that out too when the Saints made that trade 364 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: that he was talking to a GM that thought maybe 365 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: they're sweet on Ridder and that may be the guy 366 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: they go up to get because he's starting to get 367 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of heat on him. I mean, I'm 368 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: looking at the order of the draft Bunny starting at 369 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: fifteen Philly, New Orleans, Chargers Philly, New Orleans. Something weird's 370 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: gonna happen before or after the Chargers pick. I have 371 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: a feeling that somebody's gonna package these picks or I 372 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe the Chargers are involved somehow. Maybe they 373 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 1: move back, maybe they move up. I don't know. But 374 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: when you have two teams that are surrounding you at fifteen, sixteen, eighteen, 375 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: and nineteen, it's going to lead to a lot of intrigue. 376 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: And I think the Chargers are in a great position 377 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: to stick and pick or maybe maybe get that second 378 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: round pick back and trade back from the KLi. The 379 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: clil macdeal like that one the one thing that I 380 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: would be concerned about the Chargers being able to trade it. 381 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: So it goes two ways, right One, the Saints and 382 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles each have the pick in front of them 383 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: and the pick behind them. Yeah, so let's just say 384 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 1: they get the guy they want, and they know that 385 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: Philly and New Orleans are shopping those picks now, you know, 386 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: and that that maybe, okay, we traded up to get 387 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: these two, and yeah, we got excited about who we 388 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: might get it at eighteen, but now let's see if 389 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: we can recoup you know, that next year's first round 390 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: or something, since we absolutely got our guy at six whatever. 391 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: So that's going to have to happen for someone to 392 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: trade into the Chargers spot because no one's gonna want 393 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: seventeen if they know that. Clearly, Philadelphia looks to be 394 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: content with Jalen Hurts and they're looking to the quarterback 395 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: class of next year, you know, to Stroud and Bryce 396 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: Young and that group, so they're not going to be 397 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: picking quarterbacks. So there's no need to jump into the 398 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Chargers spot, you know, to get to get a quarterback. 399 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: And you know, now, look, there could be, like you said, 400 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: a receiver someone's super high on. If Wilson tumbles or 401 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: Olave tumbles and someone wants to jump up and get it, 402 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: then yeah, I guess that could that could work certainly 403 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: less two like Green Bay twenty two, like maybe they 404 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: move up and get the guy for Rogers or you know, 405 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: there's a there's a host of teams that I feel 406 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: like could say, okay, let's get that, let's get that 407 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: trailer in Burke, so let's get a lave he's there. Um, 408 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: who knows. But I'm looking at like the Packers and 409 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have two first rounders really late. Packers have 410 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: two first rounders really late. Um. It's just I could 411 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: work not going to trade to the Chiefs, you know, 412 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: especially if like Jamison Williams or a lot of air 413 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: sit there. It's like, yeah, we're not appreciated Kansas City, 414 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: but no, we're not not looking forward to having you 415 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: use our particular like if if Kansas City moves up 416 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: into one of that like that New Orleans or that 417 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: Philly spot to try to snag a receiver um or 418 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: even shoot man. And this is a ton of possibilities, 419 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: And I just I think, like we've talked about five 420 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: or six different positions that we'd be content with with 421 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers selecting at seventeen. So I don't think it. 422 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: This isn't like okay, Justin Herbert at six, Rashawn Slater 423 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: at thirteen, this is like, you know, we got it 424 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: several needs and you know, we'll get the best dude 425 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: to contribute to this team. And it's a deep draft. Yeah, 426 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: and it's a deep draft. So yeah, you're right, Chris, 427 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: you know, I mean why not. I think the one 428 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: thing that that's so important to remember is, you know, 429 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: picks are great, but they have to turn into players, 430 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: have to you know, they have to turn into play Like, look, 431 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: the Chargers just got Khalil Mack. For a second, you know, 432 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: Bears fans are probably like, hey, this is great, you 433 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: recoup a little bit of draft capital. You're in a 434 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: rebuild anyway, Okay, but that second round pick in the 435 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: middle of the second has to turn into a player, 436 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, like, we know what Khalil Mack is and 437 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: that's essentially what Less need in the rams, you know, 438 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: what their philosophy became. It's like, well, you know, these 439 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: aren't players, these are picks. Now, if you do your 440 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: homework and you draft wisely, yeah, I think turn into 441 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: players and cost controlled players. And that's where that so God, 442 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: I'm talking on both sides of my mouth like crazy 443 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: already in this thing. Fine, So it's what every GM's 444 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: doing right now. Yeah. So it's it's like you know, 445 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: when you trade for for you know, when you let's 446 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: just say, like when you trade for Matthew Stafford, Right, yeah, okay, 447 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: it's two first round picks, but you're also trading for 448 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: a forty million dollar contract when you trade for Ramsey, 449 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: Like you're not Yes, you're trading for arguably the best 450 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: corner in the league, but you're also trading for a 451 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollar contract. Like that's that's where the 452 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: draft pick comes in. It's like, oh, they only got 453 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: calev On, Chase On and CJ. Henderson for Ramsey. That's right, 454 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: because they did a poor job. But if those two 455 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: guys pan out, now you've got an edge rusher that's 456 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: costing you four and a half million bucks a year 457 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: and a corner that's costing you five million bucks a 458 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: year instead of twenty eight million and twenty two millions. 459 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: Like that's that's you know, that's where the value comes 460 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: in for the teams that are trading away these veterans. 461 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: And so I think that's kind of what what gets 462 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: so tricky about the draft. Prod says it's like, oh, 463 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: I've got this value, do I go high floor, low ceiling? 464 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: Do I take a big swing? Because you know, I've 465 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: got the extra one and I'll take my big home 466 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: run swing on Stingley and just cross my fingers and 467 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: hope that he stays healthier Jamison Williams with the ACL 468 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: and he'll bounce back and be the exact guy that 469 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: he was. Like that's Those are the conversations that I 470 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: don't think we talk about enough, you know, and how 471 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: you value these picks, and you know we're going to 472 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: reference DJ a lot, because look, he's just the best 473 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: at it. You know, I appreciate what everybody else does 474 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: at every other place. I certainly do, and I think 475 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: they're all very you know, so many of them are 476 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: really good. Some of them flat out stuck, but some 477 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: of them are really good. Most of them are. But 478 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: the thing that's so great about DJs when he you know, 479 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: and if you don't listen to the Move the Sticks podcast, 480 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: be sure you do, because it's just he does such 481 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: a good job of walking you through what goes on 482 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: in the room. And it's like, you know, in the 483 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: first round, when you're assigning value, it is so important 484 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: to hit on that first rounder, so important, like when 485 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: you miss on a first rounder, it's a big deal. 486 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: And I think you're now seeing teams be a little 487 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: bit more cautious, and it's like, you know what, if 488 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: this is a double, fine, I'll take a double even 489 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: though it's the first round and you want to hit 490 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: a home run. As long as it's not a strikeout, 491 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: let me get a double and we're good. And I 492 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: think that's where you see guys, that's where you see 493 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: the value in players like Trevor Penny right, like a 494 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: like a Zion Johnson, the interior lineman. It's like, you 495 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: know what is this Is it a premium position interior 496 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: line not necessarily and you feel good about what you 497 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: can get in the second at the round, But you 498 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: know what, my first round is gonna give me a 499 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: starting guard for the five years on his rookie contract 500 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll resign him Like that, there's incredible value 501 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: to that, especially like if we're just using right tackle 502 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: as an example, and you know you got reshaunse later 503 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: on one side. You know you got Justin Herbert back there. 504 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: If you have just a high floor right tackle, who's 505 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: going to be a solid starter band, think about what 506 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: that would have done in twenty twenty one. You know, yeah, 507 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: if you bring in the Trevor Penning and just let 508 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: him go to work. I mean, that's gonna do wonders 509 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: to the running game. It's gonna give justin an extra second, 510 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: second and a half to make a decision and then 511 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: you get to grow him with Slater for the next 512 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: ten years. Right, and look at what those guys are 513 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: earning in the in the in the free agent market. 514 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: Yeah you know you're you're talking about guys that are 515 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: making north at twenty million bucks a year and now 516 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: you've got two of them, you know that are in 517 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: the single digit millions for five years. Yeah. Done. You 518 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: can now go spend your money somewhere else because you've 519 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: hit You hit a home run on Rashawn Slater. If 520 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: you can just hit a double on your right tackle 521 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: and not have it looked like it did in that 522 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: Week eighteen game against the Raiders, then you're good. You 523 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: know you are good. You have you have upgraded your 524 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: offense incredibly. We talked about linebacker, about first round potentially 525 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: with with Dean in uh Lloyd. Yeah, Chargers made a move. 526 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: They got Troy Reader from the Rams, a guy Brandon 527 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: Staley knows very well. I think he started seven games 528 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, when Staley was a defensive coordinator ten 529 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: games last year, five starts in the playoffs, played in 530 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, won a Super Bowl in February, and 531 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, that was a position that we thought was 532 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: maybe lacking a little bit of death. Now that Kaiser 533 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: White has moved on to Philadelphia, it looks like Troy 534 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: Reader is going to be a big part of what 535 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: they do at the lineback and core money. Yeah. For me, 536 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: I think so much of that too, though, is that 537 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: Reader's been a really good special teams player and kind 538 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: of when you look at you know, when when the 539 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: Chargers had some pretty darn good special teamers there for 540 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: a while, it was you know, Derek Watt, big body, 541 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: great athlete. It was Nick Dzubner, big body, great athlete. 542 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: Last year who was their best special teams player? You know, 543 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: you would probably say Nick Neman, right start, a linebacker, 544 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: big body. So I think Reader really helps fix what 545 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: what's been a pretty disastrous coverage UM and return. Well, 546 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, the return has been been okay, but coverage 547 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: has been a big issue. So I think, you know, 548 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: a lot of that is is also he's probably gonna 549 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: be a core for guy Um, so yeah, you get 550 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: depth and someone. Look, he's the guy that came up 551 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: with that huge play uh in the in the playoff 552 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: game against Cardinals. He was the one that hit Kyler 553 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: Murray when he threw that that interception up for grabs. 554 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's certainly I'm not taking that away from him. 555 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: He's definitely a rotational linebacker. But I think you get 556 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: that enhanced value as well because he's been a really 557 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: really good special teams player for the Rams. It's a 558 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: great point two birds there. Man. You get the linebacker 559 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: and then you get uh guys like that. And you know, 560 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: we talked about the twenty eighteen uh special teams unit 561 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: so much with Adrian Phillips and you know, Eckler and 562 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: and and what because yeah, they were exceptional. They were exceptional. 563 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: They were exceptional. So um, big big time addition for 564 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers on special teams in defense. And then hey, 565 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: you answer the question about returner, right, DeAndre Carter comes 566 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: in and listen. I watched some Washington football team games 567 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: last year. He was he was exceptional as a returner, 568 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: but he also had some juice as a wide receiver too, 569 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: which kind of leads me back to that first round 570 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver. If they can get a little bit from 571 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: from Carter's a wide receiver this year too. You know, 572 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: maybe the Chargers are set there. I'm not saying they are, 573 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: but um, I thought that he had a lot of 574 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: game changing plays for Washington last year, and now he 575 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: comes in and hopefully can can I fill in what 576 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: are Roberts said last year? Aleck Roberts was great and 577 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: changed everything in the return game when he showed up 578 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: completely totally flip the script on what the Chargers returns 579 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: looked like. So we know how important that is, um, 580 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: And it's great to have a guy with experience. You know, 581 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: you draft the guy to be a returner and you 582 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: just don't know, you don't know how he's gonna respond. 583 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: We saw that, we saw guys with blazing speed. Um gosh, 584 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: helped me out, Chris. Who was it that we had 585 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: in the first week two years ago? Um, it wasn't 586 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't t Billy. It was somebody else who was 587 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: just incredibly fast. And they got the returner job in 588 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: the first week. And I think they they muffed a punt, 589 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: they ran out of bounds on another. Yeah, it was 590 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent, right, Um, and he was God, 591 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: we got to look this up, I know, and he 592 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: was like a four three guy and everybody was excited. 593 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: And then he gets out there and the lights turn 594 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: on and he freaks out, and you know that's and 595 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: that's something you know, it's not gonna happen with DeAndre 596 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: Carter and it certainly didn't have with Andre Roberts last year. 597 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: So I you know, we talked about it last week, 598 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: and yes, I'm stoked that they filled, you know, that 599 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: vacancy because it is important for this team. And we 600 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: know how much juice Andre Roberts gave the Chargers with 601 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: a handful of those returns. I'm looking this up right now. Um, 602 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: it was twenty eighteen. I want to say it was 603 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs at Dignity Health Sports Spark, right, So 604 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: let's bear with me here, I'm looking for me. Works 605 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: for me. Caleb surges. J J. Jones There it is 606 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: J J. Jones. J Jones, That's who it was. He was. 607 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: He was, He was a big name in training camp. 608 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: He had the speed and I think they they gave 609 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: him that opportunity to take that kick return position and 610 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: run with it. And unfortunately there was a couple of 611 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: mishaps in that game exactly, and so like that's and 612 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: and I just bring it up because you know, that's 613 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: when you're drafting someone or when you're signing someone as 614 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: a as as an undrafted free agent, it's again it's 615 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: a different deal. You never know how they're going to react, 616 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: and and you know or their skill level when you 617 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: take that big jump and level of competition so much happier. 618 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: They want the veteran route there. And look, if you 619 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: find someone in the draft and you draft somebody that's 620 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: it's got special team, that's got returning experience, and great, 621 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: put them back there. I have a competition, no big deal, 622 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: it's affordable. Trek on deand Rick Carter. This first wave 623 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: of free agency was wild with J. C. Jackson and 624 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: Cleil mac. But these are the types of moves, these 625 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: understated moves with with Reader and DeAndre Carter that happened 626 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: a month into free agency that really shape your team 627 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: and build out the special teams. Um and there may 628 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: be another couple moves before the draft, who knows. But yeah, 629 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and you know what, Chris just to not 630 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: to well, I did jump in. I was going to 631 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: say not to jump in, but I did. Look, obviously, 632 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: it's it's a priority, right They signed a new launch snapper, 633 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: signed a new punter, signed Dustin Hopkins to an extension. 634 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: Now they've signed a returner like that's they signed Troy Reader. 635 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: We mentioned all of the special teams experience and how 636 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: good he's played, like It's. Yes, they had to fix 637 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: the defense. It was the worst third down defense. It 638 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: was the second worst run defense in the league. They 639 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: addressed all that, but they also had incredibly they also 640 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: had some rough numbers on special teams. So to address 641 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: all of those things. And I think they're going to 642 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: continue to do that. That third wave a free agency 643 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: where you can get some value with guys like Reader. 644 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's special teams positions that you can help 645 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of fill that in as well, because they still 646 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: have quite a bit of cap room, you know, to 647 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: even after signing their draft class, they still do have 648 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: some wiggle room. A lot of that's going to depend 649 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: on what and if a Derwin James extension looks like. 650 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: And you know, we did talk about the fact that 651 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: there was a lot of rookies last year that had 652 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: played for the first time and started playing well towards 653 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: the end, especially, you know, Nick Neeman's another guy money 654 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: that you know, we can maybe end on. Let's end 655 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 1: on Nick Neeman because we haven't talked about him as 656 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: much as a as a linebacker on the defense, and 657 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if we will see more of him this year. 658 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: And I think we were all aware of the impact 659 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: that he had on special teams last year and that 660 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: could take another step as well. But but I look 661 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: at Nick Neeman as a nice piece for this team 662 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: maybe in twenty twenty two. Yeah, look, they you know 663 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: we I think this was last week that we talked 664 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: about or maybe the week before and this week before, 665 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, we brought up Amen. You know that you 666 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: did have two young, two young linebackers to perform well, 667 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, and even got pressed into into linebacking, into 668 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: playing lineback. I think he played uh if I remember 669 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: right was the Houston game. They ended up getting a 670 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: bunch of snaps, but he played well when he was 671 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: out there. I like Neman. It's been a great you know, 672 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: mid round, late round pick for Tom Tellsko and his 673 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: staffs turned out, you know, even if just special teams, 674 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: what he's been able to do. But I'm not surprised. 675 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: And look, we mentioned this with Kaiser, right like, it's 676 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: just not a premium position for this defense. You know, 677 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: they as long as you have someone capable, they feel 678 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: like those tackle numbers are going to be there and 679 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: they should be able to make plays because of all 680 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: the talent they have on the line and all the 681 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: talent they now have in the secondary. That linebackers should 682 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: benefit from that and you should not have to invest 683 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: an incredible amount of money, you know for a top 684 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: tier player that you can you know, you can get 685 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: someone that you believe as high upside that may appear 686 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: to be league average and could end up being exceptional 687 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: and or scheme. So um, that's you know, and that's 688 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: also goes back to the conversation we had about Devin 689 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: Lloyd and mccoby deane, you know for the charges at 690 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: seventeen and why you know that's that's an interesting conversation 691 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: because they can use it, but is it a premium 692 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: and can you just wait, you know until the second 693 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: round or the you know, if you trade back or 694 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: to the third round and get like a Chad MoMA 695 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: out of Wyoming to be your Logan Wilson, you know, 696 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: of what you know. And that's not fair because they're 697 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: both white guys and they're both from Wyoming, but they 698 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: do look a lot alike. And I think a lot 699 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: of it's because when you watch movement, you see that 700 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: wacky browning yellow uniform that that logan Wilson Moore as well, 701 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, it looks like that dude, you know, 702 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: and Wilson's become one of the great young linebackers in 703 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: the league. So now again I keep saying it, it's 704 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: what makes the draft so interesting. It's such a weird 705 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: puzzle because there's so many different ways to make the 706 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: pieces fit. Yeah, and you know, let's not forget about 707 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray. Two years ago. You draft, you draft up 708 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: to get him and he tweeted out the fact that 709 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: he had surgery and yeah, that was interesting. Yeah, we're 710 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: hoping he comes back ready to roll in year three. 711 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: And I think, frankly, I think the staff is counting 712 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: on it. You know, when you don't really replace Kaizer, 713 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean bringing Reader, but I think him and shrank 714 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: Will are really going to be given that first crack 715 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: to be the first string linebackers and make a real impact. 716 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: And we saw flashes with Kenneth Ben his rookie year. 717 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: I still go back to the game they lost forty 718 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: five nothing to the Patriots and just how he played 719 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: in that second half despite just being down so much, 720 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: and the passion he played with and was all over 721 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: the field. He's got that in him, and I'm hopeful 722 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: a healthy season will be able to kind of translate 723 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: what he's all about. I no doubt, you know. I mean, 724 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: like I said, we've seen it. It's just a matter 725 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: of doing it consistently because we know, you know, if 726 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: there's one thing in the NFL that that you can't have, 727 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: it's inconsistency, because inconsistency leads to a broken play, leads 728 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: to a touchdown. When the margins are as slim as 729 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: they are and you only play seventeen games, that's so important, 730 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: um so for for Kenneth the talents, there no question 731 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: about it. It's just a matter of maybe getting completely 732 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: healthy so you don't feel so beat up week the 733 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: week that when you get back on the field you 734 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: can do what everybody knows you're capable of doing, and 735 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: led for you, you know, led you to be the 736 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: top rated linebacker in your class and you know, the 737 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: Chargers to move on from uh an extra pick a 738 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: second in the first to get that number one to 739 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: get them, So, um, it's there. I'm not gonna not 740 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: gonna argue with that. We all know it's there. It's 741 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: just a matter of of him hopefully putting it all 742 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: together and finding it. Week in and we got Snap 743 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: In and Snap Out two more episodes Money before the draft. 744 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: Um speculation season is almost over. I feel like it's 745 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: been a longer window of speculation season this year. I 746 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: watched punters for an hour to pay. That's exactly. That's 747 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: where we're at. That's that's where we're at as I 748 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: get ready for for all of our NFL dot Com 749 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: and NFL Digital and NFL Network draft coverage that I'll 750 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: that I'll be on with Lance and Cynthia I think 751 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be on there and Bucky and all those guys. 752 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 1: So I'm very excited to be doing it. But again, 753 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, if you want to talk about the uh, 754 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: the glamour of of doing draft coverage, this is it. 755 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: Money's done everywhere and specifically Chargers fans. He's doing it 756 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: for you guys. That's right. You got my stop watch 757 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: what's the what's the toe to touch? Here we go boom, 758 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: what's the that's the hank time? We got some punters 759 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: to clip off. It's got a four three one hank time. 760 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: I like that if the Chargers draft one of these dudes. Uh, 761 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: we got some some clips here exactly. Let me not 762 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: be able to go. I love this guy. We got 763 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: to go back to our our Chargers weekly tease where 764 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: money was all in on the Penn State dude, the 765 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: Illinois dude. Yeah, absolutely exactly. I uh, nobody, nobody covers 766 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: punters in the NFL draft like I do. So and 767 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: we got a modern day kid. We got a modern 768 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: day kid. That's that's gonna end up probably on an 769 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: NFL rockstron kid Ryan Stonehouse out of Colorado State. Yeah, 770 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: so he uh, he's gonna end up certainly in a 771 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: training He's gonna end up in a camp, no question 772 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: about it. He's got a big old leg um. But again, 773 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: Lake Hayes, that's my guy. Croc Ady Aussie, that's who 774 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: we're going for. Write it down. We start with punters, 775 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: we end with punters, right for us. What a tease it. 776 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: We'll see you next Thursday for Buddy up Chris