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Speaker 1: for Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The thoughts

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Speaker 1: the subject matter and your needs. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 1: For almost twenty five years, I've been on a journey

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Speaker 1: to prove the existence of life after death. On each

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Speaker 1: episode will discuss the reasons we now know that our

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Speaker 1: loved ones have survived physical death, and so will we

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Today is a celebration

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Speaker 1: episode and I'll tell you why in just a second.

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Speaker 1: And we're also going to talk to Sherry Pearl, who

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Speaker 1: does a lot with recording e v P Electronic voice phenomena.

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Speaker 1: So why are we celebrating because the movie is out?

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Speaker 1: I am the producer of my very first film. Along

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Speaker 1: with Robert Lyon, who is really the brains behind the

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Speaker 1: trans Communication from the Other Side, and for me, Ms

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Speaker 1: For over thirty years, she's been working in a laboratory

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Speaker 1: in Brazil collecting voices from those who are deceased. Mainly

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Speaker 1: You have to see it to believe it, but it

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Speaker 1: is an amazing story. So we've got a full length

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Speaker 1: documentary all about her, including many of the parents that

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Speaker 1: Sonia has worked with, some audio clips recorded from the

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Speaker 1: other side, some pictures seeing how she does it, some

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Speaker 1: history of instrumental trans communication, and more. It's really a

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Speaker 1: great film and it just came out. So the best

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Speaker 1: way to watch it right now is to go to

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Speaker 1: my website, which is We Don't Die dot com, and

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Speaker 1: Sherry Pearl. Now, Sherry, like most of us, got involved

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Speaker 1: involved with Electronic Voice phenomena, and she's going to tell

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Thank you so much, Sender.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain and we are with Sherry Pearl as

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00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: sham Plain and Shades of the Afterlife. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we're with

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Speaker 1: Cherry Migdal. Sherry, you were just talking about the North

450
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: American station. Can you explain what that is? The station

451
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: on the other side that works with people who are

452
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: trying to get through from North America. There are actual

453
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: uptures on the spirit side where they are set up,

454
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: Joyce said, with machinery that allows them to put their

455
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: thoughts into which somehow interfaces with all recordings so that

456
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: we are able to have this conversation. And it was

457
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: interesting because someone had said to me shortly after Steve

458
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: Jobs tasted that there was rumor that Steve Jobs had

459
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: joined the North American station. So one night, and this

460
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: was pretty early in my work, I said it Steve

461
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Jobs there in my computer completely shutle off. But now

462
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: with this whole acceleration with using clipper, he will come through.

463
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: If I have a computer question, he directs me. I

464
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: went to the Apple store the other day to get

465
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: some components. He tells me what to get. It's Sandra,

466
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: It's beyond anything I would believe possible. And every now

467
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: and then I'll ask them and I I'll say to them, look,

468
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing extraordinary work or I'm completely out of my mind,

469
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: clean short of me, And they go, you know, we

470
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: know hard to believe, but you know who we are,

471
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: and and I know my son, and I know Joyce,

472
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: and I know them, and I know they would not

473
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: sit there playing games with me. No the power. And

474
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: also it's wonderful, like learning a language. This is the

475
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: best way I could wrap my head around it. If

476
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: I had never heard the French language before, it would

477
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: sound like complete gibberish. Well, then I start learning some

478
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: words and then I can hear those words, and I

479
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: think recording EPs is the same way. And the more

480
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: you do it, the more your ears in mind of

481
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: picking up. So you're like in Italian. You know, you

482
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: know the first time you try it, the first year,

483
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: but you show such a commitment. And you know, we've

484
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: talked to people about the soul phone and about e

485
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: v p s and these things are real, but those

486
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: that really show this is my a passion for it,

487
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: and beyond passion, the dedication. You're at this every day

488
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: and every day. Favorite recording is Sonyan and Aldi, who's

489
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: a dear friend. She sent me some gibberish of a

490
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: little boy speaking in Portuguese and I played it and

491
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: I said to Danny, Danny, you know if I use

492
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: a foreign language, can you translate it? And it's the

493
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: clearest I think Craig me apposted it recently he was here.

494
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: I speaking so clear. It's not a question if sometimes

495
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: you have an e VP or some people hear it

496
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: or they have to read the words to get it.

497
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: This one you don't. It's so clear. Everybody goes, oh

498
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: my god. But interestingly, I really liked Sonia's gibberish. She

499
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: also sent me German language gibberish, and they were very clear.

500
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: So I asked a woman I was doing reading for it,

501
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: do you mind if I do half of it in

502
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: with Little Lorenzo in Portuguese and the other half in

503
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: our English, and she said, whatever you want to do.

504
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: So I did have to reading with the Portuguese language

505
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: and half to reading with Giberish and English. And although

506
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: it's such clean gibberish, Sony gave me. Although I got

507
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: very good easy ps, I got half as many. And

508
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Constantine was talking to me last night confirmed also that yes,

509
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: you can use foreign language, but again you're making it

510
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: harder for everyone. It's easier if you do it in

511
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: the language you know, and I realized that's exactly what happened.

512
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: I got twenty with with the gibberish in Portuguese and

513
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: something like forty five in the same language that I

514
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: speak in and here, and so I'm now working on

515
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: making my own gibberish because the gibberish that I started

516
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: with from a r e. I is just I don't know,

517
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: it's just not as clean. I don't know how to

518
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: explain it. But we have to keep constantly cleaning it

519
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: because the more you use it it gets to like

520
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: words get in there and then they that's really here's

521
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: a bizarre one, because you know, I have a I

522
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: have a son who's a lawyer and he's very logical,

523
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: and he said, months, just take the gibberish from that

524
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: you want to use and save it, and whenever you're

525
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: going to make a recording, make a copy of it.

526
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: And that way the new copy will never have, you know,

527
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: make a copy each time of the clean gibberish, and

528
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: therefore it won't have the things that it's not possibly

529
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: said for it to be embedded from the former reading.

530
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: And I did that and it's still hot. It's almost

531
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: like as soon as it got into my domain, words

532
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: that were formerly on it from a former recording I

533
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: made it. It was just crazy. But my daughter has

534
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: a dog named Cora, and I had this e DP

535
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: that went Cora Cora Middal Doggy, and so I took cleaned,

536
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: I downloaded the gibberish from their website, I put it

537
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: into my file. I made a copy of it so

538
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: it would have that on it. And as soon as

539
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: it reached my camp and had Cora core and the

540
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: build doggie. So yes, it's not logic the logic exists

541
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: in our world is very different. Things, you know, things

542
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: aren't the same. And so I am now working on

543
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: making my own gibberish. I was told by I Think

544
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: Again Dickie Talbot, who's spectacularly experienced in this and very

545
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: generous with her knowledge. She told me about a program

546
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: called e v T Maker, which you can download on

547
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: PCs but not on MAX. So I also have a

548
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: PC and I downloaded it and it's for free, and

549
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: I am now making age and sex appropriate gibberish. So

550
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: I had my three year old payton count to twenty

551
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: so there'd be no words like love in it, and

552
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: then you run it through a VP maker which chops

553
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: to into gibberish, and I got this. I loved me.

554
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: That was so sweet that I did a reading for

555
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: a mom who lost the smallest child and the sound

556
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: of the vps was sounded like a small child, because

557
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: they can only influence the sound we give them. So

558
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm working on making gibberish that will be age and

559
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: sex appropriate. But I can tell you the truth, I'd

560
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: rather not do a gibberius reading because I can procure

561
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: infinitely more information using clipper. But you know, I understand

562
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: a parent wanting to hear it for themselves, so I

563
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: will do both. You know, Oh, it's extraordinary. And with

564
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: your friend Dr Joyce in what you're dictating, correct me

565
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. But you're playing a recording of Clipper

566
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: and she is dictating a book to you. Yes, and

567
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: what's here on chapter four now? And what's really interesting

568
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: is we both realize it's quite a collaboration. Because Clipper

569
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: has no human vocal, it kind of sounds like and

570
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: so she'll come on and she'll go this is there ever,

571
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: and Doctor Joyce, what you see? And then she'll go

572
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: into But if I think something, I hear my thoughts

573
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: in the I hear my thoughts in it, I couesse

574
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: I should have stopped listening to her and look at

575
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: the cover up a book and read the word for

576
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: as the found out her. So if I could have

577
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: thought that adds on to what she's saying, she will

578
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: if she proves we put that in the book. And

579
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: she said, well, I'll have to explain that this is

580
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: truly a collaboration because they called me the medium because

581
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: the medium's thoughts and you know it, we're agreeing on

582
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: everything in a sense, we're concurring. It's just beyond anything

583
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: I ever thought possible. We were working on our next chapter.

584
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: Very interestingly, Joyce had Danny took her to the Prayer

585
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: Registry on that side, and they said Danny's mom thought

586
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: when she formed this that it was strictly for the

587
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: red parents who helped them feel better on the anniversary

588
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: day of their child's passing. Little did she know that

589
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: we would have a domain over here where all the

590
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: children could come until they were at the point where

591
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: they were comfortable enough. Possibly they want to break up

592
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: and get a group home, or you know, go on

593
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: with whatever they wanted to do. And one girl went

594
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: on and said, I can't thank you nurse for creating

595
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: the prayer registry. She said, Danny comes by like in

596
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: the street, floating life stuff and just pulls kids out

597
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: of the water. It said, it's okay, we'll gay carry you.

598
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: We are a place to go, Sherry. You'll connect you

599
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: with your mother, don't you worry, And so Joyce decided

600
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Danny took her. In chapter four, she explained that Danny

601
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: took her to the Prayer Registry domain and when she

602
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: first got in she saw a lot too really young children,

603
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: like in the nursery, shedding be intended to by some

604
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: of the older children, and they all looked to Danny

605
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: as their father, and he would pick them up and

606
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: throw them in the air. And then Joyce have a thought,

607
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: maybe some of these young people would like to kill

608
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: their story, she said. As soon as she had a thought,

609
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: she was like bombarded with all these volunteers. So they

610
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: had a meeting, she said, and they came up with

611
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: the idea that one shot they would discuss it, and

612
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: one child to speak for all the children who passed

613
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: by overdose, and one child would dictate for all the

614
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: children who passed by illness. So we just did a

615
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: majority who passed by leukemia. And it was so absolutely

616
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: beautiful because as bad as it is over here, when

617
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: they're sick and they're going through all that, they get

618
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: over there, and especially if their parents register them or

619
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: Danny finds them, and then they somehow influenced their parents

620
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: to register them, they all become part of something, as

621
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: she put, bigger than ourselves, where we have the support

622
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: of each other, and eventual we will were comfortable enough

623
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: to go off on our own. Then you know, maybe

624
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: you might want to live with one of the person,

625
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: but it's like that d gloating life draft that holds

626
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: them up and says, we're okay, You're okay, We're going

627
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: to help you. So I'm thrilled about that as well.

628
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: It's really refreshing to hear this because I'm a regular

629
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: person and a lay persons. Yeah, you know, but if

630
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: there's any differences that I've been interested in studying spirit

631
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: since I was twenty and I'm forty. I'm sixty seven now,

632
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: so that's forty seven years. And so I don't fear

633
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: it in the way that some people do, and I

634
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: don't doubt it in the way that some people do.

635
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: And I have some very strong connections such as Harry Edwards,

636
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: the finest here or to walk the face of the

637
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: earth since the days Jesus Christ's who's been working with

638
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: me for years. So it's you know, for me, people

639
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: I have been connected with and and and this has

640
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: been such a part of me. Um. Maybe that is

641
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: why for me it came as quickly because they call

642
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: me a little you know, there's there's a little medium

643
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: with the hard of the healer, because that's well, you know,

644
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Speaker 1: what I've been interested in for forty seven years, and

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Speaker 1: so I think that that stands for something. But I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you it's not about high tech scientific anyhow. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether any of those people have any

648
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Speaker 1: of this going. But I don't call my phone when

649
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: I talk to Danny on the phone, the cell phone.

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00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: I call it the e v P line because it

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00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: is a line to spirit that we're creating through the

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Speaker 1: youth of electronic voice phenomenon. Cherry. Let's go into our

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Speaker 1: last break and when we come back, we'll hear more

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Speaker 1: about the e v P Line and some closing thoughts

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Speaker 1: from you. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on

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Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Keep it here on the I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Sander Champlain

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Speaker 1: will be right back. Thanks for listen it in Keeping

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Speaker 1: here on the I Heart Radio on Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: a M Paranormal podcast Network. You're listening to the I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a M Paranormal podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: Heard on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you find your favorite shows. Welcome back to Shades

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Speaker 1: of the afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain and we are talking

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Speaker 1: e v P with Sherry Pearl from Sherry Pearl dot com. Sherry,

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Speaker 1: what does it take to make connection with the other side?

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00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: It takes the desire on both sides to be in touch.

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Speaker 1: It takes the love between the parent from the child

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00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: to make that connection. And you can have the most

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00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: sophisticated machines and get all his money and put all

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Speaker 1: this to put them together and flatline because it's not

673
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: about that. It's about Spirit being willing to work with you,

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00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: and they will work with those who are coming from

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00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: the heart, not from the pocket book. I don't charge

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00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: from my work. Fortunately I don't have to because my

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00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: husband's made the peace and enough living in real estate.

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00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: But I do not have to charge. But I have

679
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: nothing against people charging for their work. And medium has

680
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: to eat, and you know a healer has to eat.

681
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: But I think there are many people out there that

682
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: are in it for the money, the ego, the press,

683
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Speaker 1: spige and I don't think Spirit will want to work

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00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: with them. No. I think there are very in every field,

685
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: absolutely in every field. But this is such an esso

686
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Speaker 1: cherrit that people can easily have the wall pulled over

687
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: their head. And look, there's terrible lawyers, there's terrible doctors.

688
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: We've all had experiences with people who you know are

689
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: are not what as good as we would want them

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00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: to be. I do think a key connect it's key

691
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: component to all. This isn't the sophistication of your equipment.

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00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: It's the loving your heart and the desire to help others.

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00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: If you have that and you want to do this,

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00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: you can do it on a little teller. I mean,

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00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: when Vicki was first contacted by her son Brading, she

696
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: just started getting messages on her cell phone. She didn't

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00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: have any fancy equipment, you know, just she just started

698
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: coming through, going, Mom, pick up the phone. So it

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00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: matters that the heart that rule the spirit, spirit doesn't

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Speaker 1: give a dam about parancy equipment. They it's certainly better

701
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: equipment will make a clearer recording. The spirit comes to

702
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: those who are coming from the place of wanting to serve.

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00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: It's the technology age, and I think you know some

704
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: of these episodes we talked about trans mediumship, physical mediumship,

705
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: which is all extraordinary, and I think technology can be

706
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: a detriment in that field because we're not spending the

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00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: time to quiet our mind and connect. But on the

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00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: flip side of that, we have the whole world of

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00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: electronic voice phenomenon I t C the instrumental trans communication.

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00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: And I think like the days when the first telephones

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00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: came out, I mean, that was a big deal, and

712
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: then when the big and the new cell phones came out,

713
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: they're big and bulky and crazy. And now you know,

714
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: we can do face time and all these things. And

715
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: it's getting enough interested people that everything, you know, especially

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Speaker 1: with this in recording, you know, I hope to wake

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Speaker 1: up or get some passion with people that say, you

718
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to try that. I'm gonna go

719
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: to our website and I'm going to dabble in this

720
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: because I tell you, you get your first voice, and

721
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: you may have voices that you just can't hear, but

722
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: there is nothing like it. I only got the backbone

723
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: to share about life after death. After I could play

724
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: my e v P and then other ones with me.

725
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: I did not know I was him, and for years

726
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: and years and years, I would hear things that I

727
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: couldn't differentiate if it was my imagination or a message

728
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Speaker 1: from spirit. And often when a woman would join the

729
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: Prayrie Registry. I would feel their kids wanted me to

730
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: say something, and I'd sit there and think, there I

731
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: say this, Am I just imagining this? And percent at

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Speaker 1: the time if I said it, they go, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: But I would never call myself a medium because I

734
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: wasn't sure and I never want to be a charlatan.

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Speaker 1: What's so great about e VP for me is that

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00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: I hear it in my head and then I get

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00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: the validation. And I would have been told by my

738
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: spirit team that the only reason I could hear it

739
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: so well to something like Clipper is because I hear

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00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: it first in my head and then I hear it

741
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: and then I can actually hear it in the electronics sounds.

742
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: But if I didn't hear it in the electronic sound,

743
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: I would not have known that it was for real.

744
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: So for people who you know are not able to

745
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: really do we trust what they hear. A DT gives

746
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: you that validation and it's it's exciting as well. Help that.

747
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: Would you talk about your latest book, Eternity Is Real

748
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: and Death Is a meth Oh? Yes, I love this

749
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: book because it's a beautifully illustrated with original photographs from

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Speaker 1: my oldest investest friends since we were like thirteen years old.

751
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: Eternity is Real and Death is a Myth is a

752
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: little book of quote on life after death with my

753
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: commentary on why this quote has meaning to me, what

754
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: it means to me. But each quote is then each

755
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: page has one of Jani's beautiful original photographs. So it's

756
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: a great coffee table book. It's hardcover because it's so pretty,

757
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: and it's the kind of thing where you could pick

758
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: it up and just read one quote with the commentary

759
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: and ruminate that all day long. It's not a book

760
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: where you read chapter after chapter, but us get a

761
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: beautiful quote. And the quotes are from one from the Bible,

762
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: but you know they're quoture from people like Ed and

763
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: Alexander and Raymond Moody and Roomy and Rabbi Earl Groman,

764
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: Catod Brand, Sir Oliver Lodge, you know, like it's it's

765
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: very varied the mr authors varied quotes at all points

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00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: to the same realization, which is that eternity is real

767
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: and death is a myth. And I call that irradium

768
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Speaker 1: because that's if you were to take the E I R.

769
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: So we always went on talking to my spirit team

770
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: they will say, we must teach the truth of their

771
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: audium because once people understand that return to the Israel

772
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: and death as we think of it is a myth,

773
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: because yes, there's death to the body, we know that,

774
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: but there's never death to the spirit. And when they

775
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: realize that the body is just a camouflage to a

776
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: greater reality in which we are all the shame, then

777
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: why would we wh is more spot I mean, why

778
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: would you be we are all the same when it's

779
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: one spirit that flows beneath these individual appearances, religions, skin colors,

780
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: and so I think it's very important that we get

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00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: the truth of Aradi amounts to people, because you can't

782
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: hate your brother when he's exactly the same as you,

783
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: and beneath this physical camouflage, we are all the same spirits.

784
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Speaker 1: So I love this book because it's not it's not

785
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: a book like my other than which you know you're

786
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: going to sit down and read the book. It's more

787
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: of that. Every day, read a quote, look at the

788
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: beautiful photograph, think about what it means, maybe read to

789
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: history as you want. And it's very Joonie's photographs are

790
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: so gorgeous that it's it's a really beautiful book. It

791
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: makes a wonderful gift at your wonderful coffee table bedside book.

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00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, well, Harry, thank you for all the work

793
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: you've done and you continue to do, and your passion

794
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: and you're definitely someone else will make a difference. I

795
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: thank you, and I thank you for having me on

796
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: and giving me and for our listeners a reminder to

797
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: go to Sherry Pearl dot com and from there you

798
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: can see the e v P slide show. You can

799
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: listen to some of Sherry's e vps. She's got a

800
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: self healing program. Of course, the prayer Registry is there,

801
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: there's a video presentation with the instrumental trans communication and

802
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: pet communication. Oh my gosh, her books are there, and

803
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: there's so much more. And I know I spoke at

804
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: the beginning of this show about Sonya and all these

805
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: movie being out now, and Sherry and Sonya are good friends.

806
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: Sonya also works with the North American station, these scientists,

807
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: and it's really incredible what's happening. You know, our friend

808
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: Scott Milligan told me about a virtual reality device. It's

809
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: a headset goes your eyes and there's two controllers that

810
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: you hold, one in each hand, and it allows you

811
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: to experience so many things in three dimension. Now, I

812
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: didn't even know this technology existed. And for me, I

813
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: downloaded a great program called Supernatural, which isn't what you

814
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: think it is, but it's actually an exercise thing that

815
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: you move around and listen to music and you're at

816
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: all kinds of beautiful three D locations, batting balloons around.

817
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling healthy. You'll be happy to know. But

818
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: why I'm sharing this is I talked to Sonya yesterday

819
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: and she says some of her latest experiments, the pictures

820
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: that are coming through appear in three dimension. Now when

821
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: I put this oculus on, I can go to YouTube,

822
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: and YouTube has a lot of virtual reality videos. And

823
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: when I was watching last night, there were two horses

824
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: that were so close to me. Now, I am quite

825
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: aware I'm sitting in a chair, but through my eyes

826
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: I saw those horses as if their heads were just

827
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: inches away from me, and my human reaction was just

828
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: to reach out and try to touch them. But what

829
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: if what's coming in the future through the North American Station,

830
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: through the scientists, through people like Sherry and Sonja and others,

831
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Speaker 1: is that eventually, what if our loved ones can communicate

832
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: not only through messages and voices and through maybe texts

833
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: on your computer or your phone. What if their picture

834
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: can show up to you three dimensionally along with their

835
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: voice and give you the message that they are alive

836
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: and well. Because believe you me, when I've got this

837
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: oculus on my head and I'm looking through it as

838
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: it's as if the people are right there in front

839
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: of me talking, it's wild. So right now it's two.

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Speaker 1: our Sunday gatherings that happen each and every Sunday. Man.

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Speaker 1: We're going into over a hundred Sunday gatherings now and

847
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Speaker 1: it all started it just as a dream of giving back.

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Speaker 1: And within each inspiring, fun illuminating gathering, we do a

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Speaker 1: their loved ones. Every month we do different classes so

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Speaker 1: you can be involved and tap into your own psychic

852
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: abilities and then tap into your own mediumship abilities. I

853
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Speaker 1: really love what we're doing now. I never would have

854
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Speaker 1: thought after the virus, when my life turned upside down

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Speaker 1: and I was forced to reinvent myself of that this

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