1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World. From our founding fathers 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: to today's heroes of faith, Christianity has been the bedrock 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: of our nation's greatness. In his new book, One Nation, 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Always under God, Profiles and Christian Courage, South Carolina Senator 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: Tim Scott shows how Christian values forged our legal system, 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: educational institutions, healthcare, social services, and more. Senator Scott reminds 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: us that we stand on the shoulders of giants, courageous 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Christians who face seemingly insurmountable odds yet persevered through faith. 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: One Nation, Always under God is more than a history lesson. 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: It is a rallying cry for all who believe that 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: America's promise is rooted in timeless biblical principles. Here to 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: talk about his new book, I'm really pleased to welcome 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: my guest, Senator Tim Scott. He is a New York 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Times bestselling author, successful small businessman, and United States Senator 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: from South Carolina. He is the first African American to 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: be elected to both the US House of Representatives and 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: the US Senate, and he is someone I've considered a 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: friend for twenty five years. Tim, Welcome and thank you 19 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: for joining me on new twelve. 20 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: Mister Spiker, thank you for allowing me to be your guest. 21 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: It's been exciting to be your friend for more than 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: twenty five years. When we go back to my county 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: council days, your impact and influence we were talking off air. 24 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: You've given me such jewels, little nuggets of wisdom that 25 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: it made me a better public servant to be honest 26 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: with you as well as is a better person. Thank 27 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: you very much for your contribution to my life. 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: You are one of the people I'm proud to know 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: because I've watched you continue to grow all the way 30 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: through this experience, and now as both chairman of an 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: important committee and as head of the Senator campaign Committee, 32 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: you're really playing a significant national role in the future 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: of this country. But before we go to your book, 34 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: which I think is very timely and very important, I 35 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: watched the other day with you and President Trump visiting 36 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve building construction site, which some estimates are 37 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: we're going to cost between two point five and three billion, 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: which was well above the one point nine billion originally estimated. 39 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: What was that visiit like. 40 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: You know, I'll be honest with you. It was a 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: frustrating renovation visit. It started back during one of the 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: hearings need to be honest with you, We do a 43 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: semi annual hearing with Jay Powell, the Chair of the 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: Federal Reserve, and I was going through these renovation projects 45 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: and why we needed a beautiful beehive garden at the 46 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: top of the building, Why do we need these very 47 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: exclusive private elevators and exclusive dining halls for public servants, 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: And he pushed back and said it just wasn't true. 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: And I was a little astonished by the arrogance to 50 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: be rank with you, and I had my staff take 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: a look very quickly, and they found the page that 52 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: each of the renovations was on. And that led to 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: this explosion where it got a lot of attention, and 54 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: President Trump decided he wanted to visit the FED and 55 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: we went together, and as we visited the renovations, frankly, 56 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: the chair of the FED doubled down on the renovation 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: well over hundreds of millions of dollars over budget, when 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: the average family is sitting at a kitchen table trying 59 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: to figure out how to bring those two ends together. 60 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: And it was a frustrating visit, and President Trump pulls 61 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: out of his pocket, real time information to say that 62 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: the actual cost of the renovations is about three point 63 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: one billion dollars. And he reflected that just a few 64 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: years earlier he had purchased a post office, did a 65 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: magnificent job renovating that building for about two hundred million 66 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: dollar And you could just feel the tension in the room, 67 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: as they say it, you could cut the tension with 68 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: a knife. It was a powerful scene. It was captured, thankfully, 69 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: and much of the country was able to watch this 70 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: conversation unfold between the three of us, and I reinforced 71 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: the fact that the numbers I have received only suggest 72 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: that the renovation costs are several hundred million overcosts well 73 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: over three billion dollars, and nothing in sight suggests it's 74 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: coming down. What do you think happened asleep at the 75 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: wheel some of it? To be honest with you, it's 76 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: better to have a construction manager running such a massive 77 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: project than someone else. And frankly, I'm sure they have 78 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: construction workers, they have a general contractor, but you need 79 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: someone on your side who's watching the details of really 80 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: important and from my perspective, the TODJMA Hall of Construction 81 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: happening on the dime, so to speak. It's not the 82 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: federal dollar, but it is the interest that is accruing 83 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: at the FED that creates the revenue stream. But at 84 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: the end of the day, the public is paying for it, 85 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: one way or the other. And at a time when 86 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: most families cannot afford lavish renovation projects. 87 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's centially long before he was a candidate. 88 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: I ended up walking through a building with then the citizen, 89 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and he's explaining construction. The degree to which 90 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: he understands all this is just amazing. And in that sense, 91 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: whatever problem may know about finance, he knows nothing about 92 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: construction compared to Donald Trump. There's also the sense that 93 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: the FED that the money's around them. They have no 94 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 1: sense of a budget, no sense of any kind of frugality. 95 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: Not at all. And part of the challenge. You look 96 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: at something as small as the CFPB that gets his 97 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: transfers from the Federal Reserve, and they were getting so 98 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: much money from the federals ave nearly a billion dollars, 99 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: which sounds like chump change, but it's real money in 100 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: the eyes of every day America's like me and you, 101 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: And what were they doing with the money. They were 102 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: literally terrifying small businesses. They were making data requests and 103 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: rings and rings of paper from small businesses, and they 104 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: were punishing people for doing the right thing and then 105 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: ultimately deciding nothing happening bad there. We just wanted to 106 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: waste hundreds of thousands of dollars from a small business 107 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: and hundreds of hours as well. But the Federal Reserve 108 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: on steroids operating in a very similar fashion. Think about 109 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: something we all know about in the financial footprint called 110 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: BOSEL three. It was brought to the table first by 111 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: Michael Barr, the feice Chair of Supervision at the FED, 112 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: and J. Powell sat there silently and said, okay, let's 113 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: go ahead and raise the capital requirements on banks, which 114 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: of course reduces the capital flow for small businesses, for 115 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: first time home buyers, and for finding credit in the marketplace. 116 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: When we know that our financial system is safe, they've 117 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: all passed to stress tests, we find ourselves asking the 118 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: question why is there so much capital part on the 119 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: sidelines instead of being invested in America's future. The answer 120 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: is the FED was asleep at the wheel. That's why 121 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: under President Trump he's been so focused on lowering interest rates. 122 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: We're at full employment about four point two percent, our 123 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: prices are stable, inflation under three percent. Only thing to 124 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: do to catch this thing on fire called our economy 125 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: in a good way is to lower our interest rates 126 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: and give President Trump more tools to fire up the economy. 127 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: Instead of doing that, we're focusing on an over the 128 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: budget renovation project, and President Trump would rather spend his time, 129 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: my time, and your time talking about how interest rates 130 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: are coming down, jobs are going up, wages are going up. 131 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: But instead of having that really important conversation, we're frustrated 132 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: by someone doubling down on FED renovations. 133 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: Which goes against the whole spirit of the American people 134 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: right now, which is to be more frugal, to spending 135 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: under control, and to move back towards the balanced budget. 136 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: But let me move on, because you have an important book, 137 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: and knowing you as well as I do, you are 138 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: more appropriate to write this than almost anybody in public life. 139 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: One Nation, Always under God profiles and Christian courage? What 140 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: led you to write the book? 141 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: The last two years I've been working on One Nation, 142 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: Always under God, available right now at Amazon dot Com. 143 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: I've decided to write the book because so often in 144 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: modern America, it seems like we're focusing on the wrong 145 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: people doing the wrong things. Think about the mayor oald 146 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: candidate in New York, in Minneapolis, think about the guy 147 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: who just wanted to Seattle. Why in the world is 148 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: this lurch towards socialism? I think because we're celebrating to 149 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: many of the wrong people, too much of the wrong things. 150 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: How do we get our focus back on the right things. 151 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: You said it so well. The potential of this country 152 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: is understanding our foundation. It's not merely studying history, is 153 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: understanding how history can apply to our future. And my 154 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: book One Nation Always under God distills these amazing profiles 155 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 2: in courage that have influence and impact, and not only America, 156 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: but the entire world when ordinary people respond to the 157 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: extraordinary God that we serve in measurable ways. They pray 158 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: about it, but then they do something equally as important. 159 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: They act on what they see. Rather you Dorothea Dick's 160 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: tackling the mental health challenges, or frankly most of us 161 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: know Francis Scott Key thinking about the battle that occurred 162 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: at Fort McHenry, thinking about nineteen British ships pummeling Fort McHenry, 163 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: and you think about what he was looking for, some 164 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: sign that our flag was still there. This is a 165 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: powerful story. Most of us know the name, but we 166 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: don't know the battle. We don't know the reason for 167 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: the worl words. I think when you understand that, you 168 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: say to yourself, I want to be a part of 169 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: the story that unfolds for the future of America. I'm 170 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: really interested in seeing this next generation that is more 171 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: committed to the country, more interested in faith than we 172 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: ever hope that they would be. Let's give them the 173 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: tools and the stories and frankly the mentors of the 174 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: past to forge the greatest future of the American promise 175 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: that is still there to be taken advantage of. 176 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: One of the keys to one nation always under God 177 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: is your grandmother and your mother. That it's a very 178 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: family shaped core beliefs. Can you talk a little bit 179 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: about those two amazing women. 180 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I'll say this, my mother and 181 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: my grandmother always focused on family, and when you hear 182 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: me talk, I'll talk a lot about the American family. 183 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: Not just America as a nation, not as a power, 184 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: but as a family. When we see ourselves as a family, 185 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: there's this interconnectivity that is a necessary component to understand family. 186 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: You don't always like everybody all the time, but you 187 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: love them, You're willing to give your life for them. 188 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: And that's the kind of a nation I have the 189 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: blessing of growing up in. I'm a part of this 190 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: American family. And my grandmother, even though she grew up 191 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: in very segregated times in South Carolina, she still believed. 192 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: She had this thought that the potential of this nation 193 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: would be realized during her lifetime or her child's lifetime, 194 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: and as a result, she taught me to pray that 195 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: God would be the God of the breakthrough, so to speak, 196 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: and she believed that all things would become more and 197 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: more possible. She taught my mother that, and my mother 198 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: as a result, you can read in the book One 199 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: Nahould Always under God the lessons of these two powerful 200 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 2: women in my life. She taught me that you could 201 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: be a victim or you can be victorious, but you 202 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: can't be both. We and the Scott family have decided 203 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: we will be victorious and not a victim. And the 204 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: way we do that is by trusting God and going 205 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: to work, work hard, work long, and the results will 206 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: be in your favor. It is a powerful recipe for good. 207 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: It has changed the course of history. Good people like 208 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: William Lloyd Garrison, who was an abolitionist. He fought tooth 209 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: and nail for the freedom of black people in America 210 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: during his time. He believed that in order to be 211 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: a good Christian he had to fight that all men 212 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: all women would be free. As a result, we see 213 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: ourselves becoming that more perfect union. It is a tremendous 214 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: story of a person that almost lost his life because 215 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: he believed so fervently in freedom that he was willing 216 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: to surrender his for the freedom of millions of people. 217 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: You can think of the same battle that Dorothea Dix 218 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: did as relates to the mental health condition of our society. 219 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: She saw an opportunity to restore dignity and respect to 220 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of people who had been committed to 221 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: an assain asylum. She thought the conditions were terrible and disgusting. 222 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: She made a revolutionary decision to make her personal mission 223 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: to change that. David Green, the founder of hobby lobby 224 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: in our modern times. He went to work and prayed 225 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: his way through financial hardship and struggle. He worked his 226 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: way in long hours to give his family and our 227 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: name something that is an enduring brand called hobby Lobby. 228 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: How did he get there? Well, that story is available 229 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 2: to you and One Nation, Always under God, available today 230 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: at Amazon dot Com, but more importantly, is available once 231 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: you read it for your future. You two can be 232 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: the answer to other people's problems. And it happens over 233 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,479 Speaker 2: and over and over again. Jim Lovell Apollo thirteen, astronaut 234 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: two hundred thousand miles away from Earth. When things go wrong, 235 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: he looked up because he knew what to do, and 236 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: he knew what was right, and as a result, he 237 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: saved the lives of the astronauts who were lost nearly 238 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: in space. 239 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: You and I were walking in Charleston one day and 240 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: you pointed out that the largest slave auction site is 241 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: now a historic site in Charleston. Then you think about 242 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: the whole tragedy of slavery and the gradual still tragedy 243 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: of segregation, and then you where your generation has come. 244 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: It seems we have to have some sense of hope 245 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: for this country. But you used two keywords I think 246 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: that I think are fascinating. One is the power of dreams, 247 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: and the other is the importance of imagination. Talk about 248 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: that in the context of your own life and your 249 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: family's life. 250 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: When I was a kid growing up at a single 251 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: parent household in poverty, I'll tell you I would lay 252 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: in my bed, I would just dream about ways to 253 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: escape poverty. For me, a mid football playing for the 254 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. I would have these real big dreams about yes, 255 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: scoring touchdowns and evading tacklers and being able to stiff 256 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: arm someone on the left and running to the right 257 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: and then dodging into the middle and cutting across the 258 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: grain and touchdown. And it was like I would relive 259 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: that dream over and over again, or catching a pass. 260 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: My dreams were really my way of escaping the scarcity 261 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: that surrounded me at the time. I learned that I 262 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: could be free in my dreams even if I could 263 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: not have all that my friends and schoolmates had. My 264 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: mother taught me this thing called Proverbs twenty nine to 265 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: eighteen is a beautiful verse. It says without a vision, 266 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: people perished, it cast off for strain. In other words, 267 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: sometimes you just stop trying, and you live on the 268 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: wrong side of the proverbial tracks, not just the literal tracs, 269 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: and the wrong side of the proverbial tracks is when 270 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: you believe that all things are not possible, that you 271 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: were born in the wrong time, in the wrong place. 272 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: Guess what you can't change any of that. You can't 273 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: shout about the things that you can't change. But what 274 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: you can do is get excited about the things that 275 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: you can change, and thank God for a mentor a 276 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: fellow Georgian. You have great affinity for Georgia, as I do. 277 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: Chick fil A guy named Jamne taught me that as 278 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: an American, I had already won the lottery of citizenship. 279 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: As a dreamer and as a thinker, all things that 280 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: I could say, see and believe I could achieve. All 281 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: I needed to do was to work for it. Put 282 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 2: in the work, don't worry about those who don't like you, 283 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: don't worry about those who stand in your way. If 284 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: you will outwork them, you can have anything you wanted. 285 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: And I didn't believe that the first two thy, three 286 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: hundred and twelve times, he said at newt It took 287 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: a long time for it to gain traction in my heart, 288 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: but once it did, I will tell you I went 289 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: from merely a high school dropout failing four subjects my 290 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: freshman year to graduating on time, having a small football 291 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: scholarship to Presbyterian College, go Blue Hose, and then becoming 292 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: a small businessman. Like he suggested that I should buy 293 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: my mama house, helping her live her financial American dream. 294 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: The rest is history. With God, hard work and American citizenship. 295 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 2: In today's America, all things have never been easier, much 296 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: less possible. 297 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd known you were a Blue Hose. 298 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: My younger daughter, Jackie Cushman, and her husband Jimmy are 299 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: also graduates of Presbyterian, so that gives me an increased 300 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: affinity for you, thy you, sir. 301 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: I didn't graduate from there. I went there for a 302 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: good year though. 303 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: And I have to say also when you talk about 304 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: Chick fil A, I represented the Dwarf House, which is 305 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: the little building next to the Atlanta Airport that was 306 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: called that because it had these little doors so that 307 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: kids could come and they could go through the dwarf 308 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: doors and their parents couldn't. And that house was the 309 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: origin of Chick fil A. And after World War Two, 310 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: Kathy had a deal where he slept next door. The 311 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: Chick fil A was opened twenty four hours a day 312 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: and He literally slept next door with a window open, 313 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: and the parking lot had gravel, so when people would 314 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: drive into three in the morning, the noise of the 315 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: car and the gravel would wake him. He would go 316 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: over fix their And in nineteen fifty four he entered 317 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: a competition for a better way to serve chicken, and 318 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: he won the competition, and that was the origin of 319 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: Chick fil A. Was that that particular which they still 320 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 1: make millions of today, But it was a great example. 321 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: He's a very humble guy, very Christian. He understood that 322 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: you could work hard, you could learn, and things could 323 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: happen that were amazing. You say one of the things 324 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: about your family and your parents, your mother in particular. 325 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: That is something I've heard over and over again from 326 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: successful people who were born into poverty that they did 327 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: not have money, but they didn't think they were poor. 328 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: I think it's tremendously important about the people who succeed 329 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: and rise from poverty that they somehow see the absence 330 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: of money as something to be overcome, not as something 331 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: to cripple them. 332 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: One of the ways that I would explain it to 333 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: my average South Carolinian in Southerner is there is a 334 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: difference from being broke and being poor. Broke is a 335 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: physical state where you lack the resources. Being poor is 336 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: a state of mind where you lack the site, the 337 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: vision to believe that all things are possible, the vision 338 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: that allows you to work a little longer, even when 339 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 2: you're exhausted, to persevere, and to endure when you're poor. 340 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: Based on that definition, you see your ceiling come down 341 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: when you're just broke. You know that that's a temporary 342 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: circumstance or condition that will change. It is not permanent. 343 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: It is temporary, and therefore you can overcome a temporary condition. 344 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 2: If you're poor, Overcoming that mindset is so difficult. One 345 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: of the things I talk about in the book about 346 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: my mother and my grandmother, and frankly even George Washington 347 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: Carver and One Nation Always under God is the importance 348 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: of seeing. Seeing is imagining, and seeing is believing. George 349 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: Washington car did more with a peanut than most of 350 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: us do with money. He literally transformed Iowa. There's a 351 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: holiday for him in the state of Iowa because of 352 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: this profound impact. The truth is, if you have this 353 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: imagination that all things are possible, if you focus that 354 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: imagination in one or two specific areas where you have 355 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 2: a passion, a drive, and an expertise, almost like a 356 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: natural inclination or affinity for something, you can have tremendous 357 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: outcome because then you're not worrying about how long you 358 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: work or how much it takes. You just do it 359 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: because you enjoy doing it. You might even do it 360 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 2: for free, you would rather do it for pay. That's 361 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: where I found myself as an entrepreneur. I worked my 362 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: first two years on average about one hundred hours a week, 363 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 2: but it was fun. I was escaping poverty. I had 364 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: a vision and a goal of buying my mom a house, 365 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: and it motivated and inspired me to go extraordinary. Links 366 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: according to others necessy links according to me. And as 367 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: a result, I now have this work ethic. I now 368 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: have this understanding that I can push myself beyond the 369 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: limits and there are new limits to be found. And 370 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: the good news is, once you do that long enough, 371 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: you can bring the engine down sixty hours a week 372 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: and fifty hours a week even and you can still 373 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: be incredibly, wildly successful. But much like a plane getting 374 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: off the ground, your vision has to have work attached 375 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: to it, and the harder you work at the beginning, 376 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 2: the longer you can sustain it in the air. And 377 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: it is a beautiful thing that's only possible in America. 378 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: In my opinion, when you start where I started, you 379 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: want to be an American because in America you get 380 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: paid for your work, you get rewarded for your vision. 381 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: That's not possible. And the vast majority of the country's 382 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: on the planet. And that's why the book isn't called 383 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: one nation in the world. It's called one nation always 384 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: under God. It's this nation under God that makes us 385 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: the most remarkable beacon of light, the city on the hill, 386 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: the place where hope is born. 387 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: The bill you help pass, the One Big Beautiful Bill, 388 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: whether it's taking off taxes on tips or on working overtime, 389 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: or increasing the child tax credit, there are all sorts 390 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: of pieces of that bill that actually will help people 391 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: rise from the absence of money and have a chance 392 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: to have a better future. And I think that it's 393 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: important to use. These things are very practical in increasing 394 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: the upperpportunity for the average person to rise. 395 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for bringing up the One Big 396 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: Beautiful Bill, because I will say, as a person, as 397 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: we just discussed, born without a lot of resources. The 398 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: one thing I focused on while we were writing the 399 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: big beautiful bill. Frankly, we could go back to the 400 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: first Trump term when we wrote the Trump tax cuts. 401 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: I had the privilege of writing most of the personal 402 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: side of the tax code as relates to the tax brackets. 403 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: I thought about my mother, a single mother, and we 404 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: cut her taxes by seventy percent during the first Trump term. 405 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: A single mother, we're making forty thousand dollars a year. 406 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: We cut her taxes by nearly seventy three percent, but 407 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: over seventy percent during the first Trump term, and we 408 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: made those tax cuts permanent. We had a two thousand 409 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: dollars child tax credit now is twenty two hundred. For 410 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: your first twenty five thousand dollars as a tip wage earner, 411 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: you get a credit basically for those twenty five thousand dollars. 412 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: We do the the exact same thing for overtime who 413 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: works overtime, working class Americans, we made it easier to 414 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: work overtime, and our seniors we gave them a twelve 415 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: thousand dollars deduction on their Social Security income. This is 416 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: focusing on people like me who understand scarcity and struggle. 417 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: President Trump has a new working class coalition that we 418 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: need to make sure that we focus on, and by 419 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: doing so, we deliver for the everyday American who wants 420 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: to achieve their version of the American dream. And that's 421 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: why in my book One Nation Always under God, you'll 422 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: find classic stories of everyday Americans who did something extraordinary. 423 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: Because the key formula of the component parts, the secret sauce, 424 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: they're all there. Putting them together, you get remarkable results. 425 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: I think this is important because this is a book 426 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: which is spiritual even more than it is political, and 427 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: it re establishes sort of the centrality of faith in 428 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: becoming an American. You quote a very famous quote from 429 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: Melexister Tokville, the Frenchman who toured America in the eighteen 430 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: thirties and wrote about her. He said, America is great 431 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: because she is good, and if America ceases to be good, 432 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: America will cease to be great. What does that quote 433 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: mean to you? 434 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: Alexis when he came in the eighteen thirties to tour 435 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: America to figure out what the secret sauce is, he 436 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: went through many of the institutions of power, and he 437 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: finally went to the churches, and he said the churches 438 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: were on fire. And he understood then that America's goodness 439 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: is the source of its greatness. It's the way we 440 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: have learned to treat each other. It's going the extra mile, 441 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: as we read about in the Book of Matthew. It's 442 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: giving the proverbial shirt off your back that you can 443 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: refer to Matthew twenty five. How we treat the naked 444 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: and the poor, and the thirsty, and the widower and 445 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: the imprisoned. There is this through line for America that 446 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: is a faith filled through line. And the more we 447 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: adhere to that, the more we treat our brothers and 448 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 2: sisters as equal, the more we see need and meet it. 449 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: We don't meet the needs that others won't meet. We 450 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: in America believe and meeting the needs that those can't meet. 451 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: We believe very much in hard work. But the truth 452 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: is our country has uncovered, not discovered, but uncovered the 453 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: key to a fruitful life, and that is built upon 454 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: a Judeo Christian ethos. 455 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: I can't end this without getting a tiny bit personal. 456 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: On August third, twenty twenty four, you married the love 457 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: of your life, and you became a bonus dad in 458 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: one day. Now you've said you prayed for many years 459 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: for the woman to come along as part of your 460 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: whole faith experience. I remember how happy I was when 461 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: I saw the announcement, and how long I've known you, 462 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: and what a wonderful person you are. She must really 463 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: be something to have had that impact on you. 464 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: Truly, your blessing, probably the second biggest blessing of my life, 465 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: besides finding and making Jesus the Lord of my life, 466 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: is Mary Mindy. I got to tell you, for as 467 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: you said, thirty one consecutive years, I've prayed the prayer 468 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: Proverbs eighteen twenty two, he who finds a wife finds 469 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord. And 470 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: I said, Lord, are you listening. After a few years, 471 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, the brother is praying, can't you hear me? 472 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: I think he was saying, but the brother ain't ready. 473 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: I think the truth of the matter is that he 474 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: made me a better man. He made me the kind 475 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: of husband who would learn to serve my wife, to 476 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: listen and to take her expertise and to weave it 477 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: into my problem areas, and to take my expertise and 478 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: to weave it into her problem to areas, and as 479 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: a result we have had a fantastic first year of marriage. 480 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: It has been absolutely incredible, except for all the tennis courts. 481 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: I grew up being a football guy and my wife 482 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: is a racket girl. So I learned very quickly that 483 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: when you play a racket sport against a racket expert, 484 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: at least in my mind, newte I'm a great athlete, 485 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: probably no longer, but in my mind I have. She 486 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: won thirty eight consecutive sets of tennis. 487 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: Well, considering that you're a national figure, there may be 488 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: a certain balancing effect to realize that there are places 489 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: where she can humble you. 490 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, she humbled me pretty quickly. I tell you what. 491 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: I was so mad for weeks. I wanted to play 492 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: her every day, and then I realized I better take 493 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: some time and watch tennis. Study tennis. Takes some tennis lessons. 494 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: I still lost, but it's been a lot of fun. 495 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: That's great. Well, I've always been struck. Many years ago, 496 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: Charlton Heston was asked how he and his wife Lydia 497 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: had been so happy for I think forty four years 498 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: at that point, and he said, you know, very early, 499 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: I learned a key phrase I was wrong. 500 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: Dear, Yes, and that word still works today. 501 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: I think somehow us guys have to remember there's a 502 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: certain humility in being allowed to be with somebody who 503 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: is beautiful and wonderful, and it makes your life rich. 504 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: As you know me, I really do think of you 505 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: as a close friend. I'm very proud of the way 506 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: you've approached this because your message in your new book, 507 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: One Nation Always under God, profiles and Christian courage, you 508 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: weave together personal life, public life, spiritual life in a 509 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: way that is really remarkable. It's available now when Amazon 510 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: or and bookstores everywhere, and I think people will find 511 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: it very enriching for their lives. And Tim, I want 512 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: to thank you for joining me. 513 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: Of course, what a blessing to be with you. Nion. 514 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,239 Speaker 2: Once again, thank you for being a mentor, Thank you 515 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: for being such a good friend, and frankly, thank you 516 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: for your contributions to my political career and my effectiveness 517 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: as a public serviant. And you taught me a long 518 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: time ago, more than fifteen years ago or so, that 519 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: I should be patient of walking through airports and make 520 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: sure you never pass on who's waving or smiling at 521 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: you without returning it because humility is a very important 522 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: part of public service. You taught me that early on, 523 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: and I thank you for it. 524 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: Thank you to my guest, Senator Tim Scott. You can 525 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: get a link to buy his new book One Nation, 526 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: Always under God, Profiles and Christian Courage on our show 527 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: page at newtsworld dot com. Newtsworld is produced by Ganglish 528 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: three sixty and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is Guarnsei Sloan. 529 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: Our researcher is Rachel Peterson. You our work for the show, 530 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: which created by Steve Penley. Special thanks to the team 531 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: at Ganglish three sixty. 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