1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Jonas is Sam your og Okay Storytime 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: podcast hosts. We have some great stories coming up, but 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: before that, we have a quick two minute break from 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: the sponsors that keep the show alive. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: I accidentally saw evidence that my husband could be cheating, 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: well at least could be. I thirty female, don't know 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: where exactly to start. My husband, thirty two male, is 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: working late tonight, or that is what he says, so 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: I thought I'd take some time to write in and 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: ask for advice. We have been together since college, married 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: for the last eight years right after college grad for me. 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: By the way this comes from, I think it might 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 3: be over. 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 15 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: to the r slash okay storytime Supreddit And I'm Angie. 16 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm Dakota, I'm Riley. 17 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we 18 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: don't have all the answers, so we're just gonna try 19 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: to guess what we would do in this situation. But 20 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: let us know what you would do in the commons 21 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: down below. So, uh, we were perfect for each other. 22 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Many friendships have come and gone, but we've always found 23 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: contentment in each other. Both adventurous and did some traveling together. 24 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: When we were first married, we argued, but not a lot. 25 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: We had kids, The first one that was a planned 26 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: child was six years ago, second surprise child, and the 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 2: last is now three. Since having kids, it's been tough 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: to get time together. Both of our parents live a 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: few hours drive away. There aren't many babysitters that we've 30 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: found that can handle our rambunctious boys. Husband works a demanding, 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: stressful job and has had to cancel vacation plans more 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: than once over the last six years because of a 33 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: terrible boss. We were seeing each other for what felt 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: like minutes every day, and our children, while wonderful, demanded 35 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: a lot of our time and energy. His boss changed 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: about six months ago. Immediately his hours became more reasonable 37 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: and his stress levels went down. Still long hours in 38 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: travel some days, but better. We had evenings together again, but. 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: Something was different. 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: It felt like we were strangers, just roommates who had 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: kids together. We were just so exhausted from the last 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: few years that we must have spent a couple months 43 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: using any spare time we had once the kids were 44 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: in bed, crashing, watching Netflix, et cetera, just boring stuff 45 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: and all along, I felt very disconnected from the man 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: who was supposed to be my partner, so we. 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: Talked about it. I told him that I missed him. 48 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: We had a few conversations about feeling disconnected. We hired 49 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: a sitter, went on some dates, and things started to 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: feel better. He's been more loving and attentive. He bought 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: me flowers again. I was feeling so hopeful, like I 52 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: was getting my partner back. About a month ago, I 53 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: noticed something that I think I wasn't supposed to. 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: He has been talking about this work trip coming up 55 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: for a week in August. 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: It's been a bit of a sore spot for me, 57 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: since in my mind, summer is for family vacations, not 58 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: work trips. But I've been being understanding. However, when he 59 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: was in the shower, his phone beeped and I saw 60 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: an email from someone named Alison entitled our trip. 61 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: With an exclamation point. 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: With an exclamation point, our trip doesn't necessarily sound like 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 2: a work trip. 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound very worky to me. 65 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt a little weird looking at it, But 66 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: when I asked him about it, he checked his phone 67 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: and told me that it was a spam email. 68 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: What doesn't sound that's not a kind of spam emails, 69 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: I get. 70 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: That's the worst cover I've ever heard. Yeah, that's clearly 71 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: not a spam email. 72 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: Right, that's crazy. 73 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: I didn't think of it after that, but since then 74 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: I haven't seen his phone left out again. I found 75 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: something else about a week ago. It was a receipt 76 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: for a jewelry store, and it was a sizeable sum. 77 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: Money has never really been terribly tight for us, but 78 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: even I was surprised by how much it was for 79 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: I felt a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach, 80 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: and I admit I looked for his personal laptop to 81 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: see if I could snoop through his emails, but he 82 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: had taken his personal laptop to work, something that he 83 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: had never done before. I was getting nervous, but somehow 84 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: didn't want to bring it up with him. Maybe I 85 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: was trying not to believe it. But this morning I 86 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: found his credit card bill in his sock drawer. 87 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: Why was he hiding it, you ask? 88 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: There were transactions going back over the last month, all 89 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: for stores that men typically don't shop at. I added 90 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: them up and he has spent a few hundred dollars 91 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: on what looks like women's clothing and lingerie. I haven't 92 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: seen anything from these stores in our. 93 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: House, so who are they? Four? 94 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: He is working better hours, but still away some evenings. 95 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: He could be spending at least an evening a week 96 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: with someone else. I don't know what to think, but 97 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: I fear the worst. Is there someone else? Was I 98 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: too unavailable when our kids were younger? Is he going 99 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: on a trip with them? Is it this Allison person? 100 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: What am I going to do if he leaves me? 101 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: He's buying her presents? For God's sake? Doesn't that usually 102 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: mean a man is moving on or falling in love 103 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: somewhere else. I don't know what to do. I don't 104 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: know any of his passwords, so I can't snoop. I 105 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: could call his office to make sure that he's actually 106 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: there when he says he is, But if I talk 107 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: to anyone, I think I'm just going to start bawling again. 108 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: He should be home in a few hours. What am 109 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: I going to do? I don't want to raise my 110 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: kids alone. I don't want to be alone. 111 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: Any advice please? 112 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: And there are some comments and way more to this story, 113 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: But what would your advice be? 114 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: It's a pretty tough spot. Being Yeah, what would you 115 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: do if. 116 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 4: You got an email like that? What if I got 117 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 4: our titled our trip? 118 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: If I got some spam email. 119 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: I think we should take the credit card bill, grab it, 120 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: take it out of there. Bro. 121 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you, because it's like 122 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: you don't want to raise your kids alone and all 123 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: this stuff, and it's like, you know, maybe you can 124 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: find a different partner. But it sounds like he's cheating 125 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: on you with this woman going on a trip with her. 126 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: He's lying to you, he's breaking all the trust, he's 127 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: breaching his contract, even though you have evidence of he 128 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: could be. I think it's very clear, yeah he is. 129 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: There's not really any work like reasonable explanation for him 130 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: buying an outlandishly expensive piece of jewelry for not you, 131 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: you know where that's going someone else. 132 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think first thing that you should do if 133 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: you can, if you have some sort of like joint 134 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: bank account, get rid of that. You just just take 135 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: get your money out of there so we can't like 136 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: steal from you or something. 137 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think grab the credit card bill. 138 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: I think it's more of like how you're gonna do it, 139 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: rather than what should you do? Because you can't just 140 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: put up with it and let it happen, so you 141 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: have to tell him. Of course, you don't want to 142 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: be alone, but I mean, yeah, I don't think anyone 143 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: would want to be alone in that situation. But unfortunately 144 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: he's not someone worth staying around. But we do have 145 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: some commenters. Drink mail tears is. Show him the receipt 146 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: you found, ask him to explain why he's been buying 147 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: women's clothing and jewelry. If the reason is totally innocent, 148 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: like he's been quietly squirrelling away gifts for you, he 149 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: should be able to explain it easily. If he gets defensive, 150 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: accuses you of distrusting him, or otherwise tries to make 151 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: an argument about your behavior instead of answering the question, 152 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: you have your answer. If he is in fact cheating, 153 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: lawyer up immediately. 154 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: Even if you. 155 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: Have to shoulder the burden of parenting more or less 156 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: on your own from here on out, you can do 157 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: everything in your power to ensure that he has to 158 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: contribute fairly to your kids living expenses. 159 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: OPI responds. 160 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: Even the idea of raising the kids without him makes 161 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: me want to puke. It's not the money, it's the 162 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: lack of a partner. I'll show him the receipt when 163 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: he gets home. I don't know if I'll be coherent 164 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: or not. But if he was getting gifts from me, 165 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: I would think I would have seen something hidden around here. 166 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: But I've torn the house apart today looking there's nothing. 167 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: He's never bought me clothes before. 168 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time he bought me lingerie, 169 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: maybe before we had kids. 170 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: And there is an update. 171 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you could ask, like, uh, how 172 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: good the lingerie looks on Alison? 173 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess something. 174 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, what does what does that look like? Uh? 175 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: I don't want to know. 176 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: I mean, well, it would be more of it, just 177 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: like ah told you that you're crazy. Yeah, maybe take 178 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: a picture of the girl carn Bill too, just. 179 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: In case, Like, I don't know if you could use 180 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: that to in a in a divorce or something like that, 181 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: and you know, yeah, give it to a lawyer. 182 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, Uh, that sucks. 183 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: That sucks, dude. 184 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: I think you gotta start making moves. 185 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep, yep. 186 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: So update, there is an edit. The comments are making 187 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 2: me very scared. I'm thankful for everyone who is talking 188 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: to me, though, even when it's hard to hear. I've 189 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: calmed down a bit, no longer stopping, and I'm going 190 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: to call my older sister to talk to a real 191 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: person about this. She lives a couple hours away, but 192 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: we have always been close and she knows my husband well. 193 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: And we'll try an update again later. Thank you again 194 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: to everyone at A number two. I just had a 195 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: very strange conversation with my sister. 196 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: Oh this is weird. 197 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: I told her everything was getting really worked up and 198 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: emotional and crying again, and she interrupted me and told me, Sis, 199 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: it's going to be fine. You need to calm down 200 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: and talk to husband when he gets home. I promise 201 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: everything is okay. Hang up the phone, take a bath 202 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 2: or something, calm down, and wait for husband. 203 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: To get home. Then she says she loved me, and 204 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: she hung up. 205 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: That's a little weird. What the heck is going on 206 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: with my life today? I feel like she just blew 207 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: me off. She didn't seem to react to what I 208 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: was saying, but most commentaries here seem pretty sure that 209 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: something bad is going on. I feel like I'm going crazy. 210 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: There is a second update. Yeah, I have no idea 211 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: what that was about. Do your sister have a secret identity. 212 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: Your sister's acting funny. 213 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: She sometimes goes by Alison. 214 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: She's funny. Funny, dude, it'll be funny, acting funny. 215 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: If Opie forgot her sister's middle name. 216 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: And it was Alison, that'd be crazy. Maybe, dude, I 217 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 3: don't know. 218 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: That was just really weird. Maybe she was just like 219 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: not a good like. Maybe she just couldn't talk, but 220 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 2: she was in a rush or something. 221 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: But she did just trying to talk her down. Yes, 222 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: so could be. 223 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: But but we've got more of this story. Update number two. 224 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: Right after I posted my edit about my sister and 225 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: the phone call, my husband texted me. He said my 226 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: sister had called him and he was on his way home. 227 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry what your sister called your husband. I immediately 228 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: freaked out because I did not feel ready to talk 229 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: to him. I was super pissed at my sister for 230 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: calling him, and to be honest, I felt like the 231 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: entire world. 232 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: Was falling down around my ears. I broke down. 233 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: I didn't even know where I was, but when I 234 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: heard the front door open, I realized I was on 235 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: my knees in the kitchen, sobbing. My husband skidded around 236 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: the corner, and when I saw him, I just started 237 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: crying harder. He dropped to the ground in front of 238 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: me and started apologizing, and I just lost it. I 239 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: started shaking my head and saying no, no, no, over 240 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: and over again. I couldn't even hear what he was saying. 241 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: He tried to hug me, and I held my arms 242 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: out all stiff, like a kid does when they don't 243 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: want a hug, just holding him back. It took me 244 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: a few minutes to register what he was saying, but 245 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: he was repeating over and over, I'm sorry for scaring you. 246 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: Please listen to me. You need to hear what's going on. 247 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: I'm not cheating. 248 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: Please listen to me, just over and over. What. 249 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: Oh, No, We're about to get flamed in the chat. 250 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: No, we jumped to conclusions. 251 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 3: No what, I'd never done that crazy. No. 252 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: I finally stopped and just said what. I was just 253 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: so drained, confused. It was good news. I saw some 254 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: of the comments in the original post saying maybe it 255 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: was a surprise and you folks. 256 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: Get the grand prize. 257 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: The story all came out after our big talks about reconnecting. 258 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: He called my sister for advice. 259 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: My sister's idea was to have him spirit me away 260 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: for a surprise weekend get away while she and my 261 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: brother in law took the kids. Died him to her friend, 262 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: a travel agent remember Allison, to get the ball rolling. 263 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: The plan evolved into my sister and parents trading off 264 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: with the kids for the week. The jewelry receipt is 265 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: for a necklace for me to wear out to dinner 266 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: on our trip. The credit card charges are for some 267 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: fancy clothes and laundry that he got me for the trip. 268 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: He took some of my clothes with him to get 269 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: the sizes right and got a lot of help from 270 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: the salespeople. He says that they're my style, but they 271 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: could be bags for all I care at this point, 272 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: So why the surprise. My sister told him that it 273 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: would be better if it was a surprise because it 274 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: would be romantic that way. She didn't count on me 275 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 2: finding out early and assuming the worst. I've had mild 276 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: anxiety issues in my life that have been worse since 277 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: having kids, but this was the worst it's ever been. 278 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: I've never felt so totally out of control in my life. 279 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: He didn't tell me all of this right away. 280 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: Some of it came out in that first moment in 281 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: the kitchen, but when I realized it was not the 282 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: end of my marriage, I pretty much became incoherent with relief. 283 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: This is embarrassing, but I sobbed so hard that I've 284 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: omitted a little bit. 285 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: At least it was on the linoleum. The rest he 286 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: told me. 287 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: After I calmed down, we talked until late last night. 288 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: He showed me all the emails, showed me our destination. 289 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: We got excited together. I'm not mad at him at all, 290 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: which he is relieved by. Apparently, my sister called him 291 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: with a red alert. Get home now before your wife 292 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: calls a lawyer message. 293 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's not great over the phone. 294 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: It sounds like, oh my goodness, she knows I have 295 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: some anxiety issues, so I may have to get after 296 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: her about the decision to keep this all a big 297 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: secret from me. Right now, I am too relieved to 298 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: be upset. Wow, Yeah, I mean I just I did 299 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 2: just read a couple more sentences, and it's pretty much 300 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: the advice I would give. 301 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: Here's the advice i'd get. Yeah, what is wrong with 302 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: your sister? 303 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk to her about all that. 304 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: Immediately telling you like, oh my god, no, it's He's 305 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: not just being like it's gonna be okay, everything's fine. 306 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: You need to be specific in that moment and say, 307 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, no, oh my god, this has gone 308 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: so far off the rails. I need to fix this immediately. Yeah, 309 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: it's a secret trip. He's saying you want a trip. 310 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: He's reconacting with you. He's getting a gift. 311 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, how exciting. That's gonna be so, so wonderful. 312 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, the sister, dude, you gotta work on your delivery 313 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: on things for real. 314 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: You must, really, Honestly, I think some people get flustered 315 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 5: in the excitement. 316 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: I guess so. But there is a little bit more 317 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: to the story. 318 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned by how unhinged I became. 319 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: I think I need to work on that. 320 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: It's not like me. What am I going to do 321 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: if a real crisis comes along. Some people were saying. 322 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: That I am codependent, and maybe they're right, but that's 323 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: for later. 324 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: Right for now, I'm enjoying my day with the kids 325 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: and looking forward to my trip. And there are some 326 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: comments coming. Number One, Jesus, when the sister didn't start. 327 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: Freaking out, I was like, dang, guess she's the mistress. 328 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm definitely on readit too much. 329 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly where my mind went and where I'm 330 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: one hundred percent on readit too much. Probably would have 331 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: been better for the sister to tell the husband to 332 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: keep it a secret, but to tell her sister that, hey, 333 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: husband is planning a surprise, just so you know he 334 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: isn't cheating on you. 335 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you can just The sister. 336 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: Totally could have just told her over the phone like, no, 337 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: is a surprise, I'm in on it, don't worry, calm down, 338 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: instead of telling her to just calm down and then 339 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: just hang up. 340 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: I think now she's one hundred percent uh goofy for that. 341 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 5: I'm saying, calm down really gets a message across effectively 342 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 5: to all women. Yep, especially women. 343 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, as a woman, I can just tell women 344 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: to calm down. 345 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: They have being told to calm down, Yeah. 346 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: Especially when they're really overwhelmed and they need too. 347 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: Especially if you're a man. 348 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: Especially if they're already kind of calm, that's the best 349 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: Way's best time. 350 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: If they're not even wound up, then they're just I 351 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: don't know, expressing themselves. 352 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best time to sell someone. 353 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa just a friendly Now whoa whoa, 354 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: there's a friendly reminder to stay calm. 355 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh, but that's the end of that story. 356 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: My wife's cat used to hate me, but now we're inseparable. 357 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: Oh isn't that just the best love story. 358 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, I moved in with my then girlfriend 359 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: now wife. Along with our shared life came a shared menagerie. 360 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: I brought my dog, Gemma. She brought two cats, Indie 361 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: and Pico, cute name. I had high hopes that the 362 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: animals would become some quirky Pixar style blended family, but 363 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: I was a fool. By the way, this comes from 364 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: user Battlescarred Bear, and if you want to submit your 365 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: own stories, go to the r slash showcase Storytime Separated. 366 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm Dakota, Hi Angie, I'm Riley, and we're here to 367 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: give good advice goofy, But we don't have all the answers. 368 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: We only know what we would do in any given situation. 369 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: So you would do something different, tell us what it 370 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: is in the comments. Opie says Jemma was the sweetest scruffiest, 371 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: quietest old mutt you've ever met, the kind of dog 372 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: who looked like she'd seen things, but mostly just wanted 373 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: a gentle chest rub in a soft place to nap. 374 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: She loved cats in a way that felt like she 375 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: wished they were her pets. She never barked, didn't snuggle exactly, 376 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: but she'd lie nearby, always quietly hoping the cats might 377 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: someday love her back. She was the canine equivalent of 378 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: a kid on the first day of school, holding out 379 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: a juice box like friends. 380 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: Love it, friends love it, Friends love that Indy. 381 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: One of the cats was a Calico tabby with the 382 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: emotional range of a bomb about to go off, Chaos incarnate. 383 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: She hated the move, hated Gemma, hated everything really except 384 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: for my wife and somehow eventually me. For the first 385 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: year I lived there, she refused to come down to 386 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: the first floor. Eventually she came around to me, but 387 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: she never stopped treating Jemma like an unholy menace. Even 388 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: once she started hanging out downstairs. She would travel across 389 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: furniture and windowsills like a tiny, fluffy assassin, avoiding pressure 390 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: plates just to avoid setting paw where Jemma might have breathed, 391 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: that's a cat. 392 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: Yep, love it. 393 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: Poor Jemma had to give up on her dream of 394 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: having a cat buddy real fast after getting swatted undeservedly 395 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: one too many times. And then there was Peko. Pico 396 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: is a large orange tabby with the emotional resilience of 397 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: a wet loaf of bread, anxious, clinging, and completely devoted 398 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: to my wife. He didn't like me, He tolerated Jemma. 399 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: He hated cuddles unless they came from his chosen human. 400 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: If my wife closed her office door, he'd cry the 401 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: Romeo understudy in a high school drama class. He'd decide, 402 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: I me like I was the guy. She told him 403 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: not to worry about. We had an understanding. I exist 404 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: and he pretended I didn't. So that was our house 405 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: for years, Gemma trying to exist peacefully with lingering hope, 406 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: Indie radiating uh vibes or snuggling my head with biggrudging affection, 407 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: Peico ignoring me with great enthusiasm. It was an uneasy truce, 408 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: but it held. Two years ago, Jemma passed peacefully at sixteen. 409 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: A few months later, Indy, who had slowly warmed up 410 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: to me. Over time, decided I was her person. She 411 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: got clingy, she'd catterwall when I left, sleep on my 412 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: chest and my head and my back, wherever she could 413 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: drape her angry little body, full gremlin energy, but affectionate. Recently, 414 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: Indie's health health declined. She had a worsening heart murmur, 415 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: and about a month ago we made the difficult decision 416 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: to let her go gently. She was seventeen. Oh, you 417 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: were devastated all over again. And then, immediately after Indy's passing, 418 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: like within a few days, something shifted peco change. Suddenly, 419 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: the cat who had been ignoring me for four years 420 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: became obsessed with me. He sleeps with me at night, 421 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: now rolls over for belly rubs like I'm some kind 422 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: of feline massage therapist. He insists on being in my 423 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: office all day. If I go back to bed, he 424 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: climbs in and snuggles up like I'm the last patch 425 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: of sunlight in the universe. He wants me to feed 426 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: him now, and he'll ignore my wife is actual person 427 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: to come bop my chair and demand attention all Then 428 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: he purrs like a lawnmower and uh and looks at 429 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: me with the kind of absolute adoration usually reserved for 430 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: cult leaders and those who opened cans. We didn't change 431 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: our routine, we didn't rearrange the house. My wife is 432 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: still very much present and fully available for cuddles. 433 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: But he co is acting like. 434 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm as long lost soulmate and he's making up for 435 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: lost time, which leaves both of us, me and my wife, 436 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: completely baffled. I have several theories. Indeed believed him into 437 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: keeping his distance, and now that she's gone, he's free 438 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: to pursue this forbidden human romance. He's grieving in somehow senses. 439 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm grieving too, but it feels less like let's heal 440 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: together and more like rub my belly grief monkey. This 441 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: is a long shot, but he's softening me up for something. 442 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what. He's terrible at being a cat, 443 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: so probably not me, but definitely something. The shift has 444 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: been instant and total. Feel like I'm living with a 445 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: completely different animal. Nothing else has changed. My wife is 446 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: still here. She is supposed to be his person, but 447 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: now apparently I am. Has anyone else had a cat 448 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: pulled this kind of emotional U turn like I'm living 449 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: with a completely different animal now I mean, I'm not complaining. 450 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: He's a great cuddler and he's terrible at being a cat, 451 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: and that's sort of charming in its own right. But 452 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I missed something here. Is this normal? 453 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: Is this grief? Is he just now realizing I give 454 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: excellent belly robs? Is it a glitch in the cat matrix? 455 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: Or have I been a mark all along? And there 456 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: is an update? I would say it's probably the cat's 457 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: grieving and replacing the relationship it had with Indy. 458 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 2: With you, yeah, I would guess that either replacing the 459 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: relationship or the pets and cuddles and stuff is like 460 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: very comforting in his grief. And so if he's you know, 461 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: seems like he's not grieving with you, but he's just 462 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: kind of there for all the attention and stuff. 463 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: Maybe that's just helping him with his grief loneliness. 464 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: So it's yeah, it seems like a kind of normal thing, 465 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 2: just lonely. 466 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: I think it's it's relatively normal. 467 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 468 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: Update. It's been over a month since I posted about 469 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: the situation, and I can tell you I'm slowly going insane. 470 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: But many of you responded to that post, alluding to 471 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: some version of the theory that Indy, our cat who 472 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: recently passed, had claimed me as hers, that she had 473 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: kept the other cat, pe Coo, from me. I have 474 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: now come to believe this may be true, but not 475 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: in the way you all thought. I think she was 476 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: protecting me from him. One might even say she did 477 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: it for his own good. He does not stop meowing. 478 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: Am I exaggerating? Of course I am. He's not capable 479 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: of uttering a constant, repeating, irritating now every second on 480 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: the second for all eighty six four hundred seconds of 481 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: the day. He's asleep for approximately sixteen to eighteen hours 482 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: of it. He also spends ten to thirty seconds per 483 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: meal inhaling the variety of damp brown pete like meat 484 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: pastes we drop onto his ornate flower shape ceramic cat 485 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: dish multiple times a day. 486 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: Thank you for clarifying. I really did think that it 487 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: was in fact, twenty four hours a day. Yeah, not eating, 488 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: not going out, not. 489 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: Sleeping, So thank you. I really appreciate you for hearing that. 490 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: Thanks meow. He is capable of keeping up that unrelenting 491 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: pace of meowing for several consecutive minutes, sometimes as many 492 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: as fifteen bundled together into an episode of mind eroding 493 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: sonic torture. It's not loud, it's worse than loud. It's 494 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: like a psychic lance to my skull, as though someone 495 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: is tapping on the blackboard of my mind with chalk 496 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: dusted fingers, little scratches of nerve, wrenching shocks to my sarahbellum, 497 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. Now, ma'ah, I have 498 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: ascertained some of the meanings of his belligerence. The purpose 499 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: of these verbal harmful acts are many. Here are just 500 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: a few of the reasons he has decided to employ 501 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: this persuasion technique. He would like his breakfast approximately three 502 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: hours early five am. He would like a second serving 503 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: of breakfast. He thinks he can convince whichever one of 504 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: us didn't serve him breakfast that he hasn't had breakfast yet. 505 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: He would like some of mine. He would like lunch. Now, yes, 506 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: he has recently decided he would like lunch. He's thirsty. 507 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: He of course has a massive cycling water bowl, but 508 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: it seems he must announce when he's heading off for 509 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: a drink. He would like an afternoon snack. He would 510 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: like my afternoon snack. He is wondering if he can 511 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: have some of our dinner. He would like his own dinner. 512 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: He would like my wife to stop singing. He would 513 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: like to be pet. He would like to be drawn 514 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: into a cuddle and pet. He would like to be 515 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: drawn into a cuddle and pet. At one in the morning. 516 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: He would like to be drawn into a cuddle and 517 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: pet at three in the morning. He would like to 518 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: have a post breakfast cuddle. He would like to have 519 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: a post dinner cuddle. He would like to be elevated 520 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: onto the bed. He would like to be de elevated 521 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: from the bed. Here are two things he does not 522 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: utilize this skill for warning us he is about to 523 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: barf a hairball or his dinner onto the bed, letting 524 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: us know he has failed to reach the litter boxes 525 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: and has instead opted to poop on the stairs. Yammiamao. 526 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: And finally, to explain the elevation points and the yet 527 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: unmentioned and most egregious use of this newfound misuse of 528 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: his vocal powers, I must explain that my desk, where 529 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: I work most days, is in a cubby in our bedroom. 530 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: Directly behind me is our marital bed, which, in his 531 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: ascension and self grounding as king of this domain he 532 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: has claimed as his royal throne. Yes, there are stairs 533 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: installed at the end of the bed. Yes he is 534 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: perfectly capable of using them. But no, he does not 535 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: lower himself to such indignities when his human powered elevation 536 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: device is present. To be clear, I am that human 537 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: powered elevation device, not my wife, not any other nearby human. 538 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: Just me. Yiamiao miaow Miao. This leads us to the 539 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: newest and most heart melting yet infuriating implementation of his 540 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: royal declarations, begging for my attention, not just my attention, 541 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: but a very specific form of attention that he bypasses 542 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: my wife for entirely. She cannot perform this task. Apparently 543 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: only I can. Miyamiyamiyamiamiyamiya. Even as I write this, he's 544 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: pawing at the back of my chair, demanding that I 545 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: perform my duty. That duty is belly rubs. It's not 546 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: just any old belly rubs. He likes when I grasp 547 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: him firmly but gently, press my head against him and 548 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: flop him down onto his side, a gesture that began 549 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: out of pure frustration after being interrupted for the seventh 550 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: time in an hour, I pressed him to the bed 551 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: and gave him a fury fueled belly rub as recriminations 552 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: for his bad behavior, only to have him start purring loudly. 553 00:27:54,160 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: Oh, this is so funny. I love cats. I love cats, honey. 554 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: Darn ah. 555 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: Cat's like, Oh, okay, only that forever. You've officially signed 556 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: up to do that forever. 557 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 3: That's so good. 558 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: The same way he used to purr for my wife 559 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: when she would relent and let him cuddle her in 560 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: the wee hours, a perr I once interpreted as a petulant, performative, 561 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: dramatic cat version of see fat man, she loves me 562 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: more yamiyamyamyamyamyamiy amy all. Now, weeks later, I must repeat 563 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: this ritual several times a day. I'm not allowed on 564 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: the bed with him. I must remain seated in my chair, 565 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: leaning over him so he can paw at my shirt 566 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: or attempt to clean my face. He either wants to 567 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: be fully on his back, clinging to my arm with 568 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: his front paws, or slightly on his side, kneading the 569 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: air like a baker of invisible biscuits. Is it cute, 570 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: of course? Is it annoying and inconvenient? Most exclusively when 571 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: I am in meetings. Now, when I am deep in 572 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: a programming binge, Now, when I am desperately trying to 573 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: maintain focus on a passage of prose. Wow, when I'm 574 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: trying to watch coarse material for work. Meow, meamiamiamiaomao, meamiami amiao. 575 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: It's slowly eroding away at my tether. I can feel 576 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: each utterance pierce into the meaty noodles of my gray matter, 577 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: like an infestation of furry caterpillars growling amongst my neurals. 578 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: And yet, how can I be angry with him? How 579 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: can I be annoyed? His aged pur muscles sputtering as 580 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: I stroke his belly, sounding like an ancient lawn tractor 581 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: lurching back to life, the engine struggling to turn over, 582 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: even with the choke fully pulled out. Sometimes I try 583 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: to re establish my grasp of reality by engaging these 584 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: mulings in conversation. Meow, I'm so I didn't catch that. Meow. No, 585 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: it's not time for your dinner yet, buddy. Now, you 586 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to your mother like that. Now, it's not 587 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: okay to use that kind of language in this house. Now, Seriously, 588 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Where did you learn that word? It was not from me. Yeah, 589 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: you've discovered the thing you do talk to your cat. 590 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is it working? I don't know. My wife 591 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: and mother in law bind these exchanges hilarious. They don't 592 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: realize this is my last ditch effort to keep my sanity. 593 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's working. I am losing it. He 594 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: never stops until he gets what he wants. Any sense 595 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: of autonomy I had as an adult has rotted away. 596 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: I no longer feel in control of my day, let 597 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: alone the idea of having any say in my destiny. 598 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: This is why the Egyptians worshiped cats. Oh yeah, they're 599 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: like we have to They was shut up. I have 600 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: no choice here. I must comply. I can only choose 601 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: to endure or comply. There is no relief from it. 602 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: I have no mouth, but I must meaow. Miamia miao, ma'ao, 603 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: miamia mia miam meow. Is this why we often jest 604 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: about cats owning us? It doesn't feel so funny anymore. 605 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: It feels horrifyingly, viscerally unerringly true. I once believed I 606 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: was terrorized by the other cat, her machinations and demands. 607 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Feeling pointed. But now I wonder have I been inherited 608 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: past like a crown from one master to the next. 609 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: Is this orange monster? Am I Joffrey? 610 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 611 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: No, I can feel myself coming unglued at times, and 612 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: the conversations take a darker turn. I'll turn to my 613 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: wife and say, listen, I'm not one hundred percent on 614 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: the translation, but I'm pretty sure he's saying he's tired 615 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: of it here and he'd like to be taken to 616 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: the shelter to find a more extravagant home, something more 617 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: suited to his proclivities. Or I'm pretty sure he just 618 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: said it's time to cut the apron. He's ready to 619 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: get out there and get a job and find a 620 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: place of his own. I think we should support him 621 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: in gaining his independence. She finds these less funny, especially 622 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: since I've repeated them enough that she now warns of 623 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: severe consequences if I even think such a thing. Do 624 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: I think such a thing? Only in jest? I assure you. 625 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: I may be going mad, but I'm not a monster. 626 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 1: I would never hurt the cat or any other creature. 627 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm gentle with them, and I love them more than people. 628 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: Even this cat, this cat who tests the limits of 629 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: the love between us. I do love him, I do 630 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: I swear miyamiamiamiao miaomiami'a mea me ol meow. I'm just baffled. Annoyed, certainly, 631 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: but mostly baffled. Why does he like this ritual so much? 632 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: Is this play for him or some elaborate humiliation ritual 633 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: for me that I do not yet fully comprehend. If 634 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: I stop and turn back to my work, he will 635 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: wait a few minutes then cry for me again, and 636 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: when I return, he has stood up again. So being 637 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: rocked over is part of it. But why why is 638 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: he so particular? What does it mean? What is this? 639 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: Ya? 640 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: Me ami amia me ami ami ami ami ami ho. 641 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: We have a little bit more story, but like I mean, clearly, 642 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: you know this is probably more than half of just 643 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: a creative writing exercise. But like it. You gotta just, 644 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, at this point, outsource like an engineer to 645 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: build some kind of machine to give your cat the 646 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: belly rub. Order of operations. Yeah, grab, turn on side, 647 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: flip over, scretch, grush grush crush. Yeah, yeah, let's finish 648 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: this story. 649 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 650 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: I am resigned to my fate. I will act as 651 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: his personal elevator, and I will serve him his rubs 652 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: of the belly. I do and will find mental fortitude 653 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: and emotional sustenance as he enjoys my attention. I will 654 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: let my heart melt as he grasped my arm, or 655 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: when he pawsed my shirt, or when he makes his 656 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: air biscuits. But why are the air biscuits he makes 657 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: so slow and so delicious? Even as I write this 658 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: final line, Pico continues his relentless campaign. He has successfully 659 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: transformed from the cat who once ignored me into my 660 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: most demanding and affectionate tormentor. I suppose that's what love 661 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: looks like in the feline world, Complete and utter domination, 662 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: wrapped in the softest orange fur, and delivered with the 663 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: persistence of a telemarketer who knows your home. This tangerine 664 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: terror has claimed me as her own, and I fear 665 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: there's no going back. And that is the end of 666 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: that story. Hey, it's Sam, your ogi host here bring 667 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: you back to the stories. But here's three minutes fads 668 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: from our sponsor. 669 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: My ex best friend married my ex husband, but she 670 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: hired me to make their cake. 671 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: I would not take that job. 672 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 3: I thirty three female, am in a bit of a dilemma. 673 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: You see, my ex best friend thirty one female, had 674 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: an affair with my ex husband thirty four mail when 675 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: we were married. 676 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: Our friendship fell apart right there. 677 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 2: I didn't have any contact with her until a month 678 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: ago when she called me saying that she wasn't happy 679 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: with her life. 680 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 3: I have moved on with mine. I don't need their shenanigans. 681 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: And by the way, this comes from top File fifteen 682 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: sixty And if you want to submit your own stories, 683 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: go to the hours slash Okay Storytime. 684 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: Separate it. 685 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 4: So I'm Angie, I'm Dakota, I'm Riley. 686 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 2: And Opie says. I run a small baking business that's 687 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: relatively new. I only take orders for cakes on occasions 688 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: like birthdays, graduations, or reunions, except for weddings. I have 689 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: some plans to expand it and dream of opening my 690 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: own bakery. One day, a few days ago, I got 691 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 2: an order from my ex best friend. She wanted me 692 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: to make desserts for her son's first birthday. She didn't 693 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: just want a birthday cake, but also a whole dessert 694 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: section for the party. It's a huge order and the 695 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: pay is good. It would be great for my business. 696 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 2: But as you can see, she and I have history 697 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: that This made me question why she wants me to 698 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: do it. Comes from a well to do family and 699 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: has a high paying job. She could easily hire the 700 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: best baker in town. 701 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 3: Why does she want me to do it? My business 702 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: isn't that big yet. 703 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: It made me feel like she's trying to grab my attention, 704 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: sabotage my business, or maybe she wants to talk to 705 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: me after I shunned her last time. On the other hand, 706 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: the business woman inside me says, to take it. 707 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: I know I can do it. 708 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: The party is huge and there will be many people 709 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: from affluent backgrounds. I can promote my business to those 710 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 2: people and boost my revenue. I'm thinking if I just 711 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: avoid her as much as possible. 712 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 3: Then it will be good. But I don't know. 713 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: I'm stuck in between. I need some good advice. But 714 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: do have some comments coming. Number one says, take it. 715 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: Make them the best cake. You can show them that 716 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: you're not bothered by either of them. The best payback 717 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 2: is no payback. Opie says, Hey, at least this way 718 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: I will get some money, considering I wasted my twenties 719 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: and an ungrateful man child. Someone else responds after reading 720 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: this saga, I am wondering if your ex best friend 721 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 2: is trying to use this to get you to talk 722 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 2: with her. 723 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: I personally would not trust her for anything. 724 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: My concern is that, yes, there will be a lot 725 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: of influential people there, and this kid promote your business. Conversely, 726 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: she could also turn on you if it's not perfect 727 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: and ruin you. Considering her backstabbing history, that would not 728 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: be a risk I would want to take Commy Number 729 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 2: two says, I don't think you should do it. You 730 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: said that there is a lot of interaction when planning 731 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 2: the bake, and you're likely to have to stay for 732 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: the party. You might be over the X and the 733 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: ex best friend, but there's some weird game going on here, 734 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: and the idea of you having to be on display 735 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 2: at their party while whatever the f they're playing at 736 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: unravels around you while you're surrounded by your former in 737 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 2: laws sounds like a nightmare. Fuel I have a suspicion 738 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: you are a pawd and no matter how professional you are, 739 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 2: you will be dragged into their drama. I honestly didn't 740 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: even realize that like, yeah, her ex in laws are 741 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: also going to be there. 742 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 3: If this is like a baby party. 743 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: If you can show up and be unbothered, that I 744 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: would agree. I agree that that's the best thing to do. Yeah, 745 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: if it's gonna ruin you, then don't do it. But 746 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: if you can, if you can swing that, then like 747 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: even if they if they have then mal In Tent 748 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it's gonna drive her crazy. 749 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: It'll then drive them crazy that you're not being driven insane. 750 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 2: Taking the job and hopes that you can get business 751 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: from their friends will only work if your ex and 752 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: ex friend allow you to stay all business. 753 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 3: Do you really think that will happen? 754 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: And we do have an update, so that's true. What's 755 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: going to happen? I think that's entirely up to you. 756 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: If you stay all business, they can come up to 757 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: you and be like and you can just go not 758 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: say anything. 759 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about personal things over but. 760 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: Not everyone could do this. So if you determine, if 761 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: you think you if you can't, then you can't. Update. 762 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: OHI guys, I've read your advice and suggestions. You all 763 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: made some really good points, So I decided to talk 764 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: to my mom about it. I just needed her insights 765 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: about this matter. She told me that I should do 766 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 2: what I want to do. My boyfriend also encouraged me 767 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: to take the order. He said that if I had 768 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 2: to stay to organize the dessert table, he would be 769 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: there for me. I took the order, and it turns 770 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: out it was my ex husband's idea to hire me 771 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 2: because one of his colleagues recommended my services to him. 772 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: It was sort of notice, so I had to rush anyway. 773 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: I kept it strictly about business. I did take the 774 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: payment in advance, just like some of you mentioned, I 775 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 2: always ask for advanced payments. I mostly maintained communication through 776 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 2: email and had my assistant, who's also a family friend, 777 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,479 Speaker 2: handle all communications. My ex best friend tried many times 778 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 2: to meet with me in person, but I just told 779 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: her to email me because I have cake orders for 780 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: other people too. I only had to meet her once 781 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,479 Speaker 2: in person. Regarding the order. She sent me the party 782 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: details over email. Like I mentioned, it was a huge order. 783 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 2: I didn't just have to make a birthday cake for 784 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 2: the baby. It was Pokemon themed, but also cake pops, cupcakes, 785 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: and macaroon. Luckily, I had my friend Marie over for 786 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: some help. Yes I did pay her, so, like usual, 787 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 2: I went to deliver the cakes and other stuff for 788 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: the party. There was already a table set at the venue. 789 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 2: My boyfriend Josh thirty five mail came with me to 790 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: support me and keep me away from my ex husband 791 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: an ex best friend as much as possible. As I 792 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: was busy with myself, my ex approached me and said hello. 793 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 3: Not gonna lie. Seeing him after so many years, my 794 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 3: heart just stopped. 795 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 2: This man has given me the worst pain you could 796 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: possibly give to a human. I'm glad I held my composure. 797 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 2: I also said hello back. He tried to have small 798 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 2: talk with me by saying that he's sorry about how 799 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 2: things went down and what he said, and also that 800 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: I looked better than the last time he saw me. 801 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 3: Wow, okay really it's like, uh yeah, I'm like. 802 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 6: So, I'm like so sorry that I, you know, cheated 803 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 6: on you with your with your bestie and then like, uh, 804 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 6: stayed with her and now we have a freaking five 805 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 6: year old kid, and that you're at this kid's party. 806 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry abou all that. But like, you're you 807 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 3: look pretty hot right now? 808 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you look hot at that blank stare right through him. 809 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, do not talk to me about that. That is 810 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 3: so off liments, so inappropriate. Then he dropped a big bomb. 811 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 2: He said, all these years he thought of me, wondering 812 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 2: what I was doing, even though he's happy with his 813 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: married life. 814 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 3: But I was silent. 815 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: I didn't say a word. He just kept talking about 816 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 2: how he misses me and my cooking. My homemade french 817 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: onion soup is still his favorite. He misses it every 818 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: time he gets sick with the flu. I didn't know 819 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: what to say. 820 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: Straight up. The most devastating thing you could say right 821 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: there is you'd be like, do you have anything business 822 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: related you'd like to tell me? 823 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 3: Yeah? 824 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, only business actually right, If you're all 825 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: good here. 826 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 3: Then I've done my job. I'm gonna head out. Thanks. 827 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 2: Why, Like, I'm sure there's a reason that she needs 828 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 2: to be there. She's not just there hanging out with 829 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 2: the desserts for fun, Like, but maybe you don't have 830 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 2: to finish that part of the job. I didn't know 831 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 2: what to say at that moment. Josh noticed that my 832 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 2: ex was making me uncomfortable and rushed towards me with 833 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 2: a fake emergency. He asked if I was okay, and 834 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: I said yes. After the table setting was done, I 835 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 2: was about to leave when I saw my ex father 836 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: in law along with other guests. He noticed me and 837 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 2: came to give me a hug. My ex father in 838 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: law is a very humble man. In fact, he was 839 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 2: the only one who was on my side when I 840 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: was going through the divorce with his son. 841 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 842 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: He looked really happy to see me and ask me 843 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 2: how I was. He started chatting with me. I talked 844 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: to him about my business and he gave me some advice. 845 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 2: He even talked to my boyfriend, so he called Josh 846 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 2: a pretty standard guy, whatever that means. Ex father in 847 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 2: law was nice and said that he would suggest my 848 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 2: services to his friends too. He insisted that I stay 849 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: into lunch was served. I said no couple of times, 850 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 2: but he managed to convince me. I only stayed for 851 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: one more hour or so, but I was fine. I 852 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 2: did notice that my ex best friend was eyeing me 853 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 2: from the corner. I was okay because Josh was beside 854 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 2: me the whole time. I chatted with some guests who 855 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: appreciated my service. I didn't have any more conversations with 856 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 2: my ex. I didn't even stay for the cake cutting. 857 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 2: I left the first chance I got, but my assistant 858 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: stayed to make sure that everything was fine and for 859 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 2: the cleanup. It was overwhelming for me. I saw some 860 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 2: of my old friends and my in laws. My mother 861 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 2: in law avoided me, and some of my old friends. 862 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 3: Just said hello. 863 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: Later that day, I got a message from my ex 864 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: best friend on my work email saying that she liked 865 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 2: my service and that her guests really liked my cakes 866 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 2: and desserts. 867 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 3: She also said sorry, that's not where it ends, though. 868 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 2: I got to know from my friend Marie, who was 869 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 2: still in contact with some of my old friend group, 870 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 2: that my ex best friend is not happy with her marriage. 871 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 3: When my ex and. 872 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 2: Her are in public, they often fight a lot. They 873 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 2: also fought on that day of their kids' birthday. To 874 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: be honest, I just told Marie not to bring me 875 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: the gossip about her. There is a little bit more 876 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 2: to the story, but interesting development. 877 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: To take every ounce of wheel power within me to 878 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: not go, oh, that's interesting. It's just like here, yeah, 879 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: you have you're having problems with your marriage. Try maybe 880 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: I'll give you my French onion super recipe. He told 881 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: me at your wedding that yeah, yeah, literally, and then 882 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: I would just ever talk to either of them ever. Again. 883 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, just don't, dude, don't, don't take parties from these people. Literally, 884 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: this was your ex husband's idea to hire you, claiming 885 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 2: that a friend recommended your services, when really he was like, 886 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 2: oh great, I can tell her how freaking smokin' she looks, 887 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 2: how much more smoking she looks than back then. 888 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 3: Maybe if she looks this smoking, I wouldn't have cheated 889 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 3: on her her friend. That's crazy, just craziness, craziness. 890 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 2: But there is a little bit more to this craziness. 891 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 2: But the silver lining is I got a huge fat check. 892 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 3: I can finally buy. 893 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 2: Any sugar printer or maybe a good quality of it. Also, 894 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 2: I just want to appreciate my boyfriend Josh. He has 895 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: been incredibly supportive of me. He protected me from my 896 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 2: ex and ex best friend like a night. I think 897 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: he deserves his own. 898 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 3: Cake from me. And I know a lot of you 899 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 3: told me not to take it, but I guess I'm 900 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 3: just a. 901 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 2: Greedy mister Crabs who cares more about the money rather 902 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 2: than being a classy. 903 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 4: Ha ha ha Okay, when it's that much money, I 904 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 4: thought it was like a couple hundred bucks. This kind 905 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 4: of changes thing. 906 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it sounds like it's baking all of 907 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: that stuff and then also being there to set up 908 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: and take down. 909 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 3: That's I feel like. Usually not a part of the thing. 910 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 3: Usually you just like send the order, you know, and. 911 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: It's clearly elite. Yeah, everyone's like, oh. 912 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: Right, so yeah, it's probably expensive. But this is the 913 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 2: last time I will be taking any orders from them. 914 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 2: I know they have a three year old daughter whose 915 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: birthday will be in two months. I think they might 916 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 2: try to hire me again. I will not take it 917 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 2: if that happens. And ps, Yes, my ex best friend 918 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 2: did try to communicate with me during the party, but 919 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 2: I managed to avoid it thanks to Josh and my 920 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 2: ex father in law. My ex father in law knows 921 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 2: about my situation and my discomfort with my ex best friend. 922 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: He kept me busy with small talk. There are some comments. 923 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 2: Comment number one says, by this sugar printer or the oven, 924 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,439 Speaker 2: but also take your boyfriend out to say thanks. 925 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 3: He sounds like a great guy. Ope, he says, we 926 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 3: will sometime next weekend. I don't know. 927 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 2: I'm wondering about the reason ex's conversation came up about 928 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 2: old time. Sounds like his marriage isn't going so well. 929 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: Is he trying to make his wife jealous? I'm happy 930 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 2: your service was professionally done. However, next time, I think 931 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 2: I would just be too busy to take the order. 932 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 2: Your boyfriend sounds like a keeper all the best, someone responds, 933 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 2: or the ex might be trying to feel out the 934 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 2: situation to see if he has a chance of getting 935 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 2: back together. 936 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 3: Good thing boyfriend was there. Yeah, that's definitely what was 937 00:45:59,440 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 3: going on. 938 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: Listen to any of these comments, being like, I wouldn't 939 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: have done it. It's like, hello, getching money literally money literally, 940 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: and it's like the best thing you could do in 941 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: this situation is show up, be unbothered, and take the 942 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: money away from the people who betrayed you. 943 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, how many? 944 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 2: Number three says money is great, but it sounds like 945 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 2: so much emotional effort to get to get it from 946 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 2: these customers. Well yeah whatever, Oh he doesn't respond to that. Yeah, 947 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 2: it's up to her if that's emotional. Yeah, like it's 948 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 2: if that's too much emotional. 949 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: If this is giving you conniptions, then yeah, don't do it. 950 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: If you can just go, do I get you need anything? 951 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 3: Else exactly. 952 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: Then that's if you can do your retail food industry, 953 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: service industry. 954 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, is that all? And that's the end of 955 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 3: the story. We're going to go on to the next one. 956 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, it's John Ogi host here. We're gonna get 957 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: back to the stories. But here's a quick three minute 958 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: break from as for more sponsors. My best friend's sister 959 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: planned to ruin her wedding, but I managed to stop it, 960 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: stop the ruining of the wedding. I forty two female 961 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: attended my bestie Anna's wedding this summer. She and her 962 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: new hobby have been together almost a decade and decided 963 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,479 Speaker 1: to get married a little over a year ago. There's 964 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: a lot of drama in Anna's family just by nature. 965 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: She knows it, I know it, we all know it. 966 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: And by the way, we're all going to know that. 967 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: This comes from user one field five two three four 968 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: on the r slash chard at Dobra YouTube subreddit. If 969 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 970 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,240 Speaker 1: r slash Okay storytime subreddit. I'm Dakota and I'm Angie. 971 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, I'm Sofia, says Riley. I'm Riley and oh 972 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: pee for context. Anna and I have been friends since 973 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, in our mid twenties, when we 974 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: met in a popular vacation town and immediately decided we 975 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: would be best friends. Allah meeting a kindergarten bestie, you know, 976 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: when you spot each other and immediately are like, I'll 977 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: take that one. Yeah. We live about one thousand miles apart, 978 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: though because of this, I haven't actually met the majority 979 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: of her family. I've met her parents, her partner, and 980 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: her now stepdaughter, but never her sister Marie. Until the wedding. 981 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: About six months ago, Anna told me she wanted me 982 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: to be her matron of honor, but she couldn't because 983 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: Marie was going to have a fit if it wasn't her. 984 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: She didn't want Marie to stand up with her or 985 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: control anything wedding related. She and her fiance decided the 986 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: only person who would be standing up with them was 987 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 1: his daughter, her stepdaughter to be. I was completely fine 988 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: with this. I'm not big on attention, and the last 989 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: two weddings I've been in I was part of a 990 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: massive bridal party, so I could fade into the background 991 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: a bit. I was more than happy just being there 992 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 1: to help on her wedding day, no labels needed. Well, 993 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: the week arrived, I flew in about a week early 994 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: and met the other not bridesmaid. First thing. We immediately 995 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: bonded over the anti Marie dialogue that ensued. Here is 996 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: some context. Marie is high maintenance, like every holiday, family event, vacation, 997 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: et cetera, has to be catered to her. She's the 998 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: younger of the two, and if Anna gets even a 999 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: shred of attention, that should be devoted to her. The 1000 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: tantrum is legendary, like goes no contact on other people's 1001 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: birthdays because she can't acknowledge that it's not her day 1002 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: level tantrum. She's just a little child. 1003 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 3: That's a little baby bride and Jesus. 1004 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: A child saying oh mommy, mommy, mommy, No, it has 1005 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: to be about me. 1006 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 3: It has to be about me, Mommy, my day. 1007 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 1: Mummy, No, mummy, it's like you're thirty five. So we 1008 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: all knew what was coming if she showed up, which 1009 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: we didn't actually know would happened until she physically walked 1010 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: into the venue. She managed to get into town a 1011 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: day early and came to the pre wedding barbecue. The 1012 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: bride and groom we're hosting. That's where it started. 1013 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 3: Dun dunt all. 1014 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: She had far too much to drink and then started 1015 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: crying about how Anna quote never wanted her here and 1016 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: was making sure she knew it. For the record, I 1017 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: was with Anna and Marie all day and Anna did 1018 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: nothing to her that would have even suggested this. She 1019 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: had been friendly, kind and accommodating, despite the barbes she 1020 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: was getting about her complexion and hair that day. She is, 1021 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: of course beautiful, but whatever. Then in the middle of 1022 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 1: the party, she started sobbing and stormed off. It took 1023 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,959 Speaker 1: half the attendees two hours to find her, hiding under 1024 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: the desk. It's elevated. She wasn't like in a crawl 1025 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: space where she could hear us looking everywhere for her. 1026 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: People even got in their cars to drive down the 1027 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: darkening winding road make sure she wasn't wandering into traffic. 1028 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: Then the wedding day came. The first red flag was 1029 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: Marie needing to get her hair done. Anna arranged for 1030 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: her to have a last minute appointment with them, Anna 1031 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,879 Speaker 1: at their mom and Anna's stepdaughter, and Marie made them 1032 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: so late that Anna had to do her own makeup. 1033 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 1: This wasn't that big of a deal. Originally, Marie was 1034 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: going to do it since she's a MUA, which I 1035 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: hadn't known at the time, and now I can only 1036 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: imagine how that would have gone. More importantly, they showed 1037 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: up at the venue with Marie still in her casual clothes. 1038 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: I was already at the venue. I was responsible for 1039 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,320 Speaker 1: setting up the place settings, favors, and centerpieces. It was 1040 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 1: me and the other not bridesmaid running around putting stuff 1041 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: together while the event planner, Anna worked with handled the vendors. 1042 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: When Marie asked what she could do, we gave her 1043 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: tasks and then secretly went to other people and gave 1044 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: them to them as well, with the instruction to wait 1045 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: a few minutes to see if Marie actually did it. 1046 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: She never once did the task we gave her. Fine, 1047 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: We planned for that. As the time approached, we all 1048 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 1: started to filter out to get dressed. Marie vanished. She 1049 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 1: was gone for almost an hour. The ceremony was supposed 1050 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: to start at two thirty. At one point thirty, there 1051 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: was a call for formal photos for the family of 1052 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: the bride and groom. Marie was not there. She showed 1053 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: up minutes before two in a white dress with small 1054 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: lemons on it. The wedding was Tiki themed. The colors 1055 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 1: were bright orange and bright green. Everyone was asked to 1056 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: dress in their best tiki party garb. All around us 1057 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: were people dressed in bright vacation clothes, Hawaiian shirts, and 1058 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: flowy dresses everywhere. The bride was wearing a pin Up 1059 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,439 Speaker 1: inspired white dress with lace sleeves, and Marie was wearing 1060 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: a pin Up inspired white dress with tiny lemons on it. 1061 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 2: You don't wear a white dress to a wedding unless 1062 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 2: it's yours. 1063 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,800 Speaker 1: Marie is not allowed into his venue. 1064 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 2: It's just like, I don't know why we keep getting 1065 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 2: so many stories where people don't know that rule. 1066 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 3: What's that about. 1067 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm not like I don't even know you know, red 1068 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: wine's getting on that dress immediately. It's just it like, 1069 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: I won't even I'm not even gonna hide it. I'm 1070 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: gonna walk right up to her with the red wine. 1071 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: I'm not Ope, I'm Opie's friend. Okay, gotcha Ope's ride 1072 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,800 Speaker 1: or un alive. You walk up to her sister with 1073 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 1: the red You just look at her with a glass 1074 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: of red wine in your hand, and you go splash. 1075 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 3: Oh oh Oops, I tripped standing completely. 1076 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: So looks like you have to wear something else, Marie. 1077 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1078 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: From then on it was a series of things. She 1079 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: tried to change the playlist from the one Anna had curated. 1080 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: When she couldn't change it, she tried to get the 1081 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: bartenders to let her behind the bar to add music 1082 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 1: she wanted to draw all over the newly restored nineteen 1083 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: sixty nine Morris Minor one thousand Traveler that Anna and 1084 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: her husband have spent over a year working on. This 1085 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: has been blatantly shut down already before the wedding. Immediately 1086 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: after the father daughter dance, she privately threw a fit 1087 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,280 Speaker 1: to their dad that Anna got a dance and she didn't, 1088 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,839 Speaker 1: maybe because she's literally the bride. She tried to take 1089 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: the MC's microphone three separate times without any reason. There 1090 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: were no speeches requested by the bride and groom, literally 1091 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: because of her. Every single time she was thwarted by 1092 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: me or the other not bridesmaid. At the end of 1093 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: the wedding, Marie came up to me and thanked me 1094 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 1: for being a better sister to Anna than she ever had. 1095 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: And you know what, I said, You're welcome. I know 1096 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 1: she was expecting me to coddle her and tell her 1097 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: she was a wait sister and that Anna loves her. 1098 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,879 Speaker 1: But you know what, I had lied enough that day 1099 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: by saying she was welcome at the wedding. And that's 1100 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 1: how I made sure my bestie had the best wedding 1101 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,280 Speaker 1: she could possibly have come. Unber one, even the parents 1102 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: seem normal. How did the sister end up with so 1103 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 1: much main character energy? People just baffle me? Oh, P replies, 1104 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I left it out for character count. 1105 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: But their mom is just as awful. She spent the 1106 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: whole week complaining that nothing at the wedding was what 1107 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: she wanted. Will never I will never understand that. It's 1108 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: now your wedding, dude, Yeah, now your wedding. It's your 1109 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: daughter's wedding. Yeah, not yours. Come on, girl, you already 1110 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,280 Speaker 1: had yours. Chill out, What are you talking about? 1111 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 3: That's all that's all it is. 1112 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: You get that one, You get divorced to get me married. 1113 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: You get to take a one. Yeah, are you the 1114 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: one marrying your daughter's husband? 1115 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 5: No? 1116 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 3: No, you shut your mouth. 1117 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: Tom and ever too. What was done about Marie's white dress? Oh, 1118 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: he says, Unfortunately nothing. I went to Anna to check in, 1119 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,760 Speaker 1: and she was like, what color would you say Marie's dresses? 1120 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: She was super chill and calm. I told her I understood, 1121 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: and we would do something if she needed to or 1122 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: if she needed us to. Earlier that week, the other 1123 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: not bridesmaid and I had already discussed having her removed 1124 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 1: if needed, but my bestie gave true main character energy 1125 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: and said, don't worry about it. She doesn't matter, So 1126 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: we left it alone. Everyone there knew Anna, and no 1127 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 1: one had met Marie, so it was a non issue. 1128 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 1: I suspect it really bugged Marie that no one mentioned it. Reply, 1129 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: she can have the photographer change the color. Puce is good, 1130 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: not like a mixture between puke and chartruse. 1131 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, can you look at what pisces? 1132 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 4: Yes, I forget a dark red or purple brown color. 1133 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 4: A dark red or purple brown color. 1134 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 3: Nice down, but it's not a theme of the wedding. 1135 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 3: But not to still a good color. 1136 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 1: Comment three, I so wanted you to accidentally spill red 1137 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: wine on it, Op said we would have if there 1138 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: was wine. It was at a brewery and legally they 1139 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: could only sell their own drinks and zero percent alchamchall beverages, 1140 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: so nothing was dark enough to make a difference. Comment 1141 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: number four. I never understood why people give in to 1142 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: attention seeking behavior, as in Marie wandered away and the 1143 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 1: world stopped to find her. If everyone just carried on, 1144 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: she would have become bored and re emerged, Yes, probably 1145 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: screaming and crying that nobody cared. However, if that did 1146 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: not get a reaction, I'm guessing Marie would stop with 1147 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: the theatrics. Let her scream and pout. As I told 1148 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: my children when they were young, I understand you are 1149 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: upset and need to cry. That is fine. Please take 1150 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 1: care of that in your bedroom. I'm happy to talk 1151 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: to you once you get it out of your system. Really, 1152 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: sometimes we do need to just cry, but we do 1153 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: not need to be the center of attention. That's a 1154 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 1: Marie issue that others are enabling. Opie says. The only 1155 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 1: people who search for her were the bride's family because 1156 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,840 Speaker 1: they're used to doing it. The rest of us were like, 1157 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 1: that sucks. Pass me at Frank and there's an update? 1158 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 3: Oh what even is there to say left in this story? 1159 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 3: The winning happened? Is she causing just more trouble? 1160 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think I think there needs 1161 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: to be some level of like intervention. 1162 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:47,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1163 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: If this is how Marie is, it's like she needs therapy, 1164 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: she needs something like are you okay? She is unwell? 1165 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: She's clearly not. She's clearly not. She's never okay. She 1166 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 1: makes that very clear all the time. 1167 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's get into this update. 1168 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 1: So let's get into Anna's family a bit. Anna is 1169 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: in her mid forties and she's been in a long 1170 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,240 Speaker 1: term relationship for all of her twenties that was toxic. 1171 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 1: After she and her ex split, he really grew into herself. 1172 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: She is this vivacious, opinionated, amazing woman who honestly couldn't 1173 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: give a flying f what people think about her. And 1174 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 1: I love that her partner now husband, Ted is an 1175 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 1: amazing dude, as most Ted's are. They're both giant nerds 1176 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 1: with niche tastes and once they claim you, there is 1177 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: no escape. That all being said, Anna and Marie's mom 1178 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: Tory is a lot right ro I love the woman, 1179 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: trust me, but she's never wrong regardless of who's actually right. 1180 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: She is tiny and loud. From the moment Anna and 1181 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: Ted got engaged, it's been all about how long She's 1182 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: waited for this, so obviously it was going to go badly. 1183 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: As I mentioned in my other post, Anna and I 1184 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: live about a thousand miles apart. I also have a kid, 1185 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: multiple health issues, and a complicated job, so getting together 1186 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: has been a struggle. Years ago, I traveled for work 1187 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: and I got to see Anna probably once a month, 1188 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: but since twenty to twenty that has stopped. I've seen 1189 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 1: her twice in five years, with the most recent trip 1190 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: before the wedding being in twenty twenty three. Her mother 1191 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: lives about seven hours drive from her and visits regularly. 1192 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 1: When we were planning my trip up, Anna asked me 1193 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: if I could come up early and stay with her. 1194 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: She wanted to catch up before the wedding stuff happened, 1195 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 1: and I wanted to help where I could, so I 1196 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: flew up a week early to spend time with her. 1197 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: Tory had been at her house about a month before 1198 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: the two weeks. During that time, she tried to force 1199 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: Anna into a seating chart it was open seating at 1200 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: the reception, and talk her out of her catering choice. 1201 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 1: She also complained about not getting to go to Anna's 1202 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 1: hair test because she wanted to give the hairdresser some pointers. Hey, 1203 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: that's necessary? 1204 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 2: Eh? 1205 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: Thanks, Mom, You're not needed here. 1206 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 3: This is a professional that we've got work in here. 1207 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. 1208 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: When I arrived on Monday, I immediately got to work 1209 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: taking the burden off of Anna. We started a group 1210 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 1: chat with the wedding planner and the two friends who 1211 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: were helping. Then I booted Anna. We made sure that 1212 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: everything we needed was accounted for, and one of them 1213 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: revealed that Tory had reached out to her to try 1214 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 1: to provide a seating chart to one of the wedding planners. Tuesday, 1215 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: Anna and I drove two hours for her final fitting. 1216 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 1: On the way, Tory called and complained that she hadn't 1217 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: heard from me or the girls about the seating chart 1218 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 1: she provided. Anna calmly explained there was no need for 1219 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: a seating chart, and Tory got defensive again, claiming she 1220 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: had waited her whole life for this and no one 1221 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 1: was going to mess it up by sitting in the 1222 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: wrong place. 1223 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 3: Is that really gonna mess it up? 1224 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 2: Girl? 1225 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 3: Come on. 1226 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 1: Anna tried to tell her that there was no seating 1227 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: chart and Tory started crying. So I told Tory I 1228 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: would text her and hung up Anna's phone. Tory texted Anna, 1229 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: telling her to call back when she wasn't driving. Anna 1230 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: completely forgot because on the way home she got car 1231 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,439 Speaker 1: sick and took a long nap. The next morning, Tory 1232 00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: called hysterical, claiming she had called all the hospitals in 1233 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 1: the area because the only reason Anna wouldn't call her 1234 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: back was because she was passed away on the side 1235 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: of the road. Mind you, she never texted me back 1236 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: and never tried to call Anna again. The previous day, 1237 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,439 Speaker 1: she once again was crying and saying how she wasn't 1238 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: even invited to the fitting of the dress, even though 1239 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 1: she had been waiting for this day or in dia life. 1240 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: The dress fitting was at Anna's seamstress's house, and it 1241 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 1: was literally a try. On Wednesday, came Cory and her husband, 1242 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: the kindest, quietest man you'll ever meet, arrived immediately. Tory 1243 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 1: gave me a huge hug and then began backhandedly commenting 1244 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 1: about how I had been there so much longer than 1245 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 1: the mother of the bride. It had been two days, 1246 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: with me flying in around four pm Monday and then 1247 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: Anna sleeping for four hours Tuesday, But sure so much longer, 1248 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: mind you. I had spent the time I was there 1249 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: hot gluing moss to flower arrangements and emotionally supporting Anna 1250 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: as she painted complicated mail art. But sure, technically I 1251 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: was there longer. Immediately Tory tried to get me on 1252 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: board with the seating chart idea. I shut her down 1253 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: and reminded her to compliment her daughter's nails because they 1254 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 1: had taken her two days to finish. 1255 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 4: Then she's, what, I know somebody that would take two 1256 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 4: days to finish nails? 1257 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 3: Hey, but what are they? 1258 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 4: Very complicated nails? 1259 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 1: I just mean, what, what do please elaborate? What kind 1260 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:14,919 Speaker 1: of nails do you have that take two days? 1261 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 3: Well, I've never taken two days. Riley's crazy all day. 1262 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 1: That was the plural you in general, right. 1263 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 2: Some people there are some nail artists that like actually 1264 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 2: go crazy on nails, like full on mini just absolute 1265 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 2: works of art, like detailed faces and all this kind 1266 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 2: of stuff. So that's stuff I could see taking multiple days. 1267 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what these were. It doesn't seem 1268 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 2: like regular like, oh, I'm just gonna do some squirrels. 1269 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 2: That doesn't seem like the kind of nail art. It's 1270 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 2: probably some sort of like very detailed thing. Maybe she 1271 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 2: does that, like, yeah, as a hobby or professionally. 1272 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: Even she's probably goaded. 1273 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1274 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Then she started in about Marie and Anna's choices. Highlights 1275 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: include are you sure can't stand up with you? Yes? 1276 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 1: I haven't heard from Marie. Do you know if she's coming? No? 1277 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Will there be a chance for Marie to help with anything? Nah? 1278 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Where is Marie sleeping a hotel? Ted and Anna were 1279 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 1: paying for which she already knew. Where are your real shoes? 1280 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,439 Speaker 1: You can't wear those? How are you doing your hair? 1281 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 1: Not up? I hope you really need a head table 1282 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 1: for you and Ted? How else are people going to 1283 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: chat with you? I don't know, walk up to them? Wild? 1284 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 6: I know. 1285 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 1: Her opinions fell to the cakee flavors, the color of 1286 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Anna's nails, the dress she was wearing to the barbecue 1287 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 1: the next day, the type of drink served at the 1288 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 1: venue limited selection because it was a brewery and they 1289 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 1: can only serve their own beverages. All delicious, by the way. 1290 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: She wanted to rearrange the centerpieces, organize the favors a 1291 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: different way, and comment on the colors. Every single thing 1292 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: was bookended by I've been. 1293 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 3: Waiting my whole life for this day. 1294 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: You've been waiting your whole life for your daughter's wedding. 1295 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, just when like not it's I could. 1296 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 2: I can understand saying that about the actual wedding day, 1297 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 2: but about little days like this that are involved. 1298 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 3: You don't need to. I don't think you've been waiting 1299 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 3: every day or your whole life for that. No, I 1300 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 3: don't think so. 1301 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 1: In titled yeah, she kept referring to Ted's daughter as 1302 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: her future step granddaughter and the only grandchild she would 1303 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 1: ever have. Like, woman, they've been together since this kid 1304 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: was five, and this is a surprise to you now, 1305 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: she would make sure to say it loudly and pointedly. 1306 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Friday rolls around. Marie shows up. Thankfully, Tory was at 1307 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 1: the hotel most of the day handling that mess. We 1308 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: still managed to get a few wish I was there. 1309 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 1: I've been dreaming blah blah blah blah blah texts from 1310 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 1: her wedding day rolls around. Everything is happening. They show 1311 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: up on time, thank whatever. Teaki gods we're watching over 1312 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: us and she looks lovely. The officiant shows up and 1313 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: they're talking. He must have mentioned that Anna and Ted 1314 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 1: are having a hand fasting ceremony, and Tory makes a 1315 01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: bee line for me. She is adamant that they don't 1316 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 1: do it, like red faced, and furious they didn't mention 1317 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: it to her. She didn't approve it. I'm like, girl, 1318 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: this isn't your call. You have zero say. Anna wants 1319 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: a hand fasting. She gets a hand fasting. She starts 1320 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: talking about how it's bad luck and pagan rituals don't 1321 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 1: belong in church, to which I pointed out, We're at 1322 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 1: a brewery, by the way. You know what a pagan 1323 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 1: ritual is Christmas trees. 1324 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 3: Idiot. 1325 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: God, yeah, I would just do that. 1326 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 2: I go, yeah, this is not We don't need to 1327 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 2: freak out over this right now. I just need to 1328 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 2: freak out back to this person. That's the only reasonable 1329 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 2: freak out. 1330 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm pretty sure if there's one wedding venue in 1331 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: the world that is completely cool with hand fasting, it 1332 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: is a micro brewery in the middle of nowhere. She 1333 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,439 Speaker 1: is livid, tells me that she can't believe they would 1334 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 1: do this to her. Mind you, this woman is not religious. 1335 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Anna and Marie have never once been to church in 1336 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 1: their lives. Anna was shocked and appalled that I know 1337 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 1: the Lord's prayer by heart thanks religious trauma. So where 1338 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 1: this sudden piety is coming from, I have no idea. 1339 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 1: I remind Tory that I have the power to remove 1340 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: anyone who tries to change anything from this point forward, 1341 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,560 Speaker 1: and she sulks off to complain to someone else. She 1342 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: gets her crap together and the ceremony goes off without 1343 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: a hitch. Oh that's unfortunate. I thought that was the 1344 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 1: whole point they were getting hitched. 1345 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 3: Ah, you have hitch. 1346 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 1: Slap that knee three times for that. That's pretty good 1347 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 1: time more than the last. Okay, there's a little bit 1348 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: more left here. Let's go ahead and just obliterate it. Afterwards, 1349 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 1: she comes to me and tells me that she's so 1350 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 1: glad it's done and she can relax because planning this 1351 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 1: wedding has been one of the most stressful things in 1352 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: her life. Cool. Cool, Cool. I can't feel my feet, 1353 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 1: I have heat blisters on my fingers from the glue, 1354 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 1: and I'm still watching Marie like a hawk in case 1355 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 1: she manages to get the microphone. But sure, Tori's stressed. 1356 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: But and I cannot stress this enough. I am so 1357 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: happy that I got to be there for my bestie 1358 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 1: and make sure she had the best day. And that 1359 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: is the end of that story.