Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer an I'm Heeart radio podcast, Like,
Speaker 1: does it really take you that much longer to wash
Speaker 1: your hair?
Speaker 2: No, you don't want no time out. I don't want
Speaker 2: to hear it. Catherine. It does not take you that
Speaker 2: long to straighten your hair.
Speaker 3: No, it does not.
Speaker 2: It does not an hour.
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2: I kind of wind down tour. It maybe took me
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: It was already straightened by the people have the hair straightened.
Speaker 2: Does it take that long to blow dry your hair?
Speaker 4: It takes them an hour. It takes them an hour
Speaker 4: because the clock.
Speaker 2: No, we're doing I'm doing your hair in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: and I will show you I should have scheduled to
Speaker 2: blow No, but I'm but go ahead back to go back,
Speaker 2: and were curious, we should let every one in. Okay,
Speaker 2: Hannah is beautiful and wonderful. And when we popped on,
Speaker 2: Janna said, I said, in the nicest way possible, you
Speaker 2: look like a mom right now, because she's a new mom.
Speaker 2: So she's got the messy hair.
Speaker 4: Baudy preface with it. Don't take this the wrong way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was like, Oh, she's a mom now,
Speaker 2: I love it. She's got a. She earned her little
Speaker 2: messy bun. She's so nice, and I said, I keep
Speaker 2: saying every night, Tonight's the night I'm going to wash
Speaker 2: my hair. And then by the time I hit the shower,
Speaker 2: I'm like, forget this. I want it to be quick
Speaker 2: and I want to go to bed.
Speaker 4: But how much longer does it take for you to
Speaker 4: wash your hair?
Speaker 2: It's actually not long and it feels her it's is
Speaker 2: it the good? It just feels so good when I do.
Speaker 1: It's what I'm wondering. Well, here's what I'm realizing at
Speaker 1: the time. I obviously can't speak because I throw my
Speaker 1: hair in a bun after I do nothing, I'm putting
Speaker 1: stuff in it.
Speaker 2: You don't even have I know. I know this because
Speaker 2: every time we travel together and I'm like, I'm like
Speaker 2: whene were time traveling, I'm I do a brush and
Speaker 2: She's like, no, like Ien a.
Speaker 4: Brush, brush hair every now and then.
Speaker 2: I don't need to you don't need to use cute hair.
Speaker 1: Well no, but my point is is I'm giving you
Speaker 1: you probably have.
Speaker 4: To do more with your hair when not get out
Speaker 4: with okay, Well, then you get no excuse. I truly don't.
Speaker 2: It's just dirty I personally just like, don't like the
Speaker 2: I just it takes so much effort, even though it
Speaker 2: takes an extra five minutes, And.
Speaker 1: In my mind I thought, maybe it does take people
Speaker 1: longer to do. I'm being genuine because there's so many
Speaker 1: people are like, it's it's.
Speaker 4: The night to wash my hair, and I'm like, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: it's not that. Am I doing something wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm just tired, I think.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's fair.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to brush it. I just
Speaker 2: want to burn it.
Speaker 4: Hair looks great.
Speaker 1: So I'm not coming down on you, but I was
Speaker 1: just I was totally just curious. But then I realized
Speaker 1: a lot of people will like blow dry and straighten
Speaker 1: and do all that. If I had to do that
Speaker 1: every time, I would never wash my hair.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wash my hair now maybe maybe, oh
Speaker 2: at least once a week. I washed my hair because
Speaker 2: I used to wash it every day and then it
Speaker 2: was so greasy and so that I got on them
Speaker 2: where I didn't. And then now it's like, fine, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to wash it every day. Now do
Speaker 2: you know that you're also not supposed to bathe soap
Speaker 2: every day either. I can't do that it's impossible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was something you have softer skin if you don't
Speaker 2: use soap. I saw it on like a meme the other.
Speaker 3: Day, taking.
Speaker 2: I mean, but do you know what I mean, like
Speaker 2: one of those things that were going.
Speaker 1: Out to be pretty sure we just strip all the
Speaker 1: moisture out of our skin when we do.
Speaker 2: But I can't not wash my body either. But anyway,
Speaker 2: we have the country that was you pinned something when
Speaker 2: we were on the phone the other day. Okay, I
Speaker 2: have a mini pin and a pin. Oh, my let's
Speaker 2: minipin it. Minipin is quick. Okay. I just want to
Speaker 2: make sure that I have a public apology out to
Speaker 2: you for insulting Jack Russell. Oh, because I need my
Speaker 2: daughter Lion, and I just want to make sure that
Speaker 2: very or people being mean. No, but I thought about
Speaker 2: it afterwards, and I was like, I came down on
Speaker 2: Jack Russell, and I've got a daughter named Lyan. Jack's
Speaker 2: was going to be the name.
Speaker 4: Still loving Jack's. It's unfortunate it is Jack Russell.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure everyone knows I named
Speaker 2: my daughter an animal. You could name your son an animal.
Speaker 2: So many people the wedding of Jax Russell and Lion
Speaker 2: Lockhart would be incredible.
Speaker 3: It would be a.
Speaker 4: Friends without telling me your best friends.
Speaker 2: Jackson, I know, but we we have officially we officially
Speaker 2: officially officially have a name now and the middle is
Speaker 2: it the our name is R j R.
Speaker 4: I know the last one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we changed the middle for something like a personal.
Speaker 4: Do we get to know her?
Speaker 2: Is it a surprise?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: What do you guys think?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Do we need everyone? I don't know, like how like
Speaker 2: because most people, well, I don't know, because I know
Speaker 2: I'm Sydney Jesse's sister. They already knew the name, like
Speaker 2: they had like the had the baby shower, which I
Speaker 2: was so sick and I was like trying to like
Speaker 2: hide in the photos. I was just like kind of
Speaker 2: starting to show, but also like one devilment. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm not here. I feel like should felt bad, but
Speaker 2: so like they had Sonny already picked out. So I
Speaker 2: don't know, Like, do you it's up to you? Do
Speaker 2: you hold it?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 2: I would love for you to hold it. I don't
Speaker 2: think that is in the cards for what I've always held.
Speaker 4: Here's what I did too.
Speaker 1: If you don't want to hear people's you're going to
Speaker 1: get people that are actually going to come to you
Speaker 1: and be like, why would you name your kid that
Speaker 1: you know, which is terrible. You can't imagine people doing that,
Speaker 1: but they'll do it. So if you don't want a second,
Speaker 1: guess yourself because people have an opinion.
Speaker 2: I love all the names you've come up with. Jack's
Speaker 2: was just when I was like, dang it, it's unfortunately.
Speaker 2: I love Jack. Oh, I love it so much, but
Speaker 2: I just it's just Jack's Jax Russell, Jax Russell.
Speaker 4: I still try it on, so I.
Speaker 2: Know, but I just there was a piece of me
Speaker 2: that I'm like, well, what if I change my mind?
Speaker 2: But I don't know, because every time we've had a name,
Speaker 2: it's always gone back to the art name, the our name.
Speaker 2: We know, the our name, y'all know. I love that.
Speaker 4: You could have like a Kylie situation where you name it.
Speaker 2: Oh, like, was it wolf?
Speaker 1: So they named him wolf? Never called him Wolf a
Speaker 1: day like ever, and then like yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Six months nine.
Speaker 4: Months later they're like, actually his name is Air or whatever.
Speaker 2: I see this Air is it Air?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: She's kind of pretty like that. I like it. The
Speaker 2: people that said, I have to see the baby for me,
Speaker 2: Like I had to go in knowing what the name was,
Speaker 2: because when it's like, okay, well know when we know
Speaker 2: when we see it, But then I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: What, Like I don't know, that's not me.
Speaker 3: Who are you a kid?
Speaker 2: Who do you want to be?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: They can't I don't know. I had to meet them. See,
Speaker 2: that's just not my personality. That's not yours either, No,
Speaker 2: not at all.
Speaker 1: But like we knew, you had to make sure that
Speaker 1: that kid looked like a lion.
Speaker 2: Well for lion, especially because I already knew it.
Speaker 4: Like what does lion look like?
Speaker 2: Though well I already knew it lion looked like because
Speaker 2: me lion, remember, but she wouldn't have been lion maybe
Speaker 2: if she didn't match that. God showed her a picture
Speaker 2: baby and the baby and.
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't know the story.
Speaker 2: Well that's pretty crucial for me. We can catch up later.
Speaker 4: You didn't tell me. I'm pretty sure you skipped over.
Speaker 2: Okay, he she was bitch facing That was so bad.
Speaker 1: So someone said, I was like, I wish I knew
Speaker 1: what I was thinking because I was thinking nothing negative
Speaker 1: that podcast at all I wasn't.
Speaker 4: It was with what's her face?
Speaker 2: It was it's when I talk, you stare at me.
Speaker 2: I need too though, I feel like I need to
Speaker 2: really work on it. Okay, but anyways, you have to
Speaker 2: be the one to like see, yeah, I think. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like I remember for Lead for Love, Preston was
Speaker 2: dead said her name was Love, and I said, I
Speaker 2: just need to meet her. And even in the birth video,
Speaker 2: the doctor says it's a girl and what's her name?
Speaker 2: And I go, we're not sure. Right as I'm saying,
Speaker 2: we're not sure that president's like her name is like
Speaker 2: money the outda it's Love and we don't care who
Speaker 2: knows it, Like okay, oh yeah, I mean think.
Speaker 4: So, but I just need to see I can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I need to. Like I've walked in with
Speaker 2: the both knowing Jolie and ja oh yeah, like we knew.
Speaker 2: So that's what's also weird because like we knew, we knew,
Speaker 2: But then I think I can't. I never called them
Speaker 2: that until I had them.
Speaker 4: So what happens if they come out and you're like,
Speaker 4: it's not Lyon.
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't lying with legend, so we had legend
Speaker 2: either way, and if it looked like the baby I saw,
Speaker 2: then it would have been lying. But it wasn't. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: yeah gotcha. Well I don't really have a chance to
Speaker 2: like have that moment of holding because I'm so drugged
Speaker 2: by the stuff that get me. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: I need to like have the name, the names.
Speaker 4: A couple of things.
Speaker 2: And he locked in before.
Speaker 4: The difference between kby.
Speaker 2: So we gets closer and closer and closer. I'm like, so, like,
Speaker 2: I actually looked into a study that if they knock
Speaker 2: you out completely, you have a higher chance of postpart
Speaker 2: and depression. Wow. Yeah, so can I ask you guys,
Speaker 2: this is silly that I don't know this.
Speaker 1: I'm silent.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's just because.
Speaker 1: You were giving me some sort of it's just when
Speaker 1: I'm like actually like intently listening.
Speaker 2: Okay, so when that I should know this. It's embarrassing
Speaker 2: when you do see section what are your options for anesthesia?
Speaker 2: They just give you the spinal tap okay, and your
Speaker 2: numb so like, yeah, you hugged basically the doctor. I
Speaker 2: remember hugging Jay wrestling for me, and he put the
Speaker 2: spinal tap right in my back okay, like an epidural
Speaker 2: it's just like an epidural. But yes, so I had
Speaker 2: with Jolie. Mine was an epidural, but then the emergency section.
Speaker 2: So then they just gave me more of whatever it was.
Speaker 2: Remember remember we were playing cards when I was God.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget it.
Speaker 2: Can we get off? I can't feel my like my legs?
Speaker 4: Can we longest?
Speaker 2: Can we can we get off of the medicine and
Speaker 2: catains like I don't.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I can't feel my legs exactly.
Speaker 4: That's the point.
Speaker 1: But so you get the spinal your numb basically from
Speaker 1: here down. Really it starts, it goes up pretty high.
Speaker 1: She didn't get knocked out completely, but you got more
Speaker 1: drugs that basically because you were freaking out.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, that's what I want both, Yes.
Speaker 4: But you weren't completely under.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Now that can happen with an emergency situation, I think,
Speaker 1: very emergency. They can completely knock you, like take you under, Okay,
Speaker 1: but that's rare, I think.
Speaker 2: Because I knew that you couldn't feel like waiste downish
Speaker 2: yeah obviously. Yeah, But then I have heard some people
Speaker 2: talk about like being knocked out or kind of knocked out,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, wait what happened?
Speaker 1: Sometimes at the emergency see some chimes I have to.
Speaker 2: It's interesting with Jolie those I remember I was. It
Speaker 2: was so much more traumatic with jas than it was
Speaker 2: with Joli.
Speaker 1: It sounded like it.
Speaker 2: So that's why.
Speaker 4: We all heard that.
Speaker 2: We did yeah in the delivery room with me, Well
Speaker 2: you're doing great, speak louder into this microphone.
Speaker 3: KB.
Speaker 2: I know I'm not going to do it again. Even
Speaker 2: though Amy we had to call the baby and like,
Speaker 2: all right, well, guests, can we get on what would be?
Speaker 2: Look really good my baby? And they were like another delivery.
Speaker 2: I was like, not a chance at all, but yeah,
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I don't know anyhow.
Speaker 4: It was more dramatic.
Speaker 2: Small pin, that's the small pin. Jacks Russell, Oh, Jack, okay,
Speaker 2: big pin. The big pin is the realization that men
Speaker 2: need to be already laughing, there's that's a list that
Speaker 2: men need to be. I don't know should be. It's
Speaker 2: a lot of heavy lifting men need to be. And
Speaker 2: I'm okay, this is a big pin. Well you know what,
Speaker 2: then let's let's bring it back. Let's let's get Danielle
Speaker 2: Bradberry on the show, and then we will unpin the
Speaker 2: big Pin.
Speaker 4: Okay, often just need to be.
Speaker 2: Take you're breaking get Danielle brad Barry. I'm hey girl,
Speaker 2: hiy hey, hi, sweet girl. I am How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 2: We're good? Welcome to Wine Down.
Speaker 3: I love it. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2: Are you right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He looks so cozy.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm in the label. I came prepared. I haven't
Speaker 3: all set up here. That's in Nashville.
Speaker 2: Are you still with Big Machine?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, because you've been there for how many years?
Speaker 3: Ten years? Now?
Speaker 2: Ten years? Because okay, so you won the voice? Now
Speaker 2: is the howled are you? I'm twenty seven, So you
Speaker 2: won the voice what eleven years ago? I guess so
Speaker 2: because you were sixteen?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah girl, I met you right after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right. I get so confused. But it's
Speaker 3: been a long time, the way it's been, Yeah, has it?
Speaker 2: I feel like I remember talking to you at one
Speaker 2: point where it was like, especially during kind of the
Speaker 2: casino labels, it's it's difficult being releasing what you want
Speaker 2: to release, also being female, and then I have my
Speaker 2: own love hate with the label and so for you,
Speaker 2: do you ever have that moment where you're just like,
Speaker 2: it's just you get so frustrated that you're like, I
Speaker 2: just want to put out what I want to put out.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. And they even know that too.
Speaker 3: I'm very vocal when it comes to that type of stuff,
Speaker 3: and I have had many moments where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: time's a ticken, Like like my my last album I
Speaker 3: put out like five six years ago, and I'm just
Speaker 3: ready to release music now, and we're on the way
Speaker 3: there and we're getting stuff done. But there's definitely been
Speaker 3: many times was where I'm like, all right, I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Do you think that that waiting and that those periods
Speaker 2: have been what have accumulated to more of your anxiety?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely has played a huge role in a
Speaker 3: lot of that because you start getting in your head.
Speaker 3: I'm a big overthinker. I just I stay stuck in here,
Speaker 3: and so I will kind of go down a rabbit
Speaker 3: hole of many things and kind of, you know, go
Speaker 3: down the whole doubt in yourself and if I'm doing
Speaker 3: the right thing and all of the above. So it
Speaker 3: definitely has played a role in my anxieties and all
Speaker 3: of that too. But you know that's my own responsibility
Speaker 3: to to kind of take the reins back a little bit.
Speaker 2: So you always felt so, I mean, winning the Voice
Speaker 2: at sixteen is young. That's really young, and so a
Speaker 2: lot of your growing up years ten years in the
Speaker 2: music business, it's like forty dog years or something. I mean,
Speaker 2: I really feel like it's a big deal. So do
Speaker 2: you feel like the growing up in the music business
Speaker 2: adds to anxiety as a person who also worked in
Speaker 2: the music business not an artist, right, I feel like
Speaker 2: that is just it's such a real the pressure and
Speaker 2: it's a testament to how incredible you are that you're
Speaker 2: at such a huge label still ten years later. I mean,
Speaker 2: big machine doesn't hold on to people. You're talented and
Speaker 2: they know.
Speaker 3: It, thank you. But yes, I think about it all
Speaker 3: the time actually, And some people are like, oh, it
Speaker 3: was so long ago. Do you even you know, think
Speaker 3: about all of that, And I'm like, oh, I think
Speaker 3: about it every single day because it's a how I
Speaker 3: got here, and b I've learned more than I could
Speaker 3: have ever imagined in these years and being at such
Speaker 3: a young age. I'm still young. I mean, yeah, like
Speaker 3: you said, these years have been so fragile and very vulnerable,
Speaker 3: and I've basically have grown up in the public eye,
Speaker 3: which is such a weird thing to think about. And
Speaker 3: I mean I've there's been trial and errors and you
Speaker 3: know the spaces in between things too. I get so frustrated.
Speaker 3: But then I'm like, Okay, well, maybe I did need
Speaker 3: this time to grow to figure out more of who
Speaker 3: I am, since these are such younger years. And my
Speaker 3: mom tells me that all the time. She's like, maybe
Speaker 3: these were meant to be and you needed time to
Speaker 3: sit with yourself. And what if you, you know, overnight,
Speaker 3: became a tailor swift, Like could you have been able
Speaker 3: to handle that? And I'm like, probably not, to be
Speaker 3: honest with you. So there's just been I mean, it's
Speaker 3: been a whirlwind for sure.
Speaker 2: And how involved is your mom with your career because
Speaker 2: it wasn't at one point she was maybe your day
Speaker 2: to day or something, or just with you because you
Speaker 2: were sixteen probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. She just traveled with me in the beginning,
Speaker 3: and when I hit eighteen, it's kind of when she
Speaker 3: let me fly on my own and I have younger
Speaker 3: brothers and family back home and she needed to get
Speaker 3: back there. So but she has played a huge role.
Speaker 3: She's never been a part of the team, but she's
Speaker 3: been my mom and in the picture, and she is
Speaker 3: super supportive and I talk to her almost every day,
Speaker 3: if not every other day, and she's always given me
Speaker 3: advice and does an overstep. But if I need that
Speaker 3: person in my corner, she definitely is right there. So
Speaker 3: it's been a huge blessing to have that. For sure.
Speaker 2: What's the message that is the message that you hear
Speaker 2: that's the most negative that kind of keeps you in rotation,
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 3: In general, or like on social media, or.
Speaker 2: Just like the thing that's like that makes you either
Speaker 2: like the anxiety worse or like for me, I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh I'm not good enough. Like that was always like
Speaker 2: my rotating belief that was negative and toxic.
Speaker 3: I I can kind of relate to that. I have
Speaker 3: like a few that come to the top of my head,
Speaker 3: Like I will get in those ruts where I'm like,
Speaker 3: am I doing something wrong? Is there something that I'm
Speaker 3: I don't have that's enough for the world, for the industry,
Speaker 3: for whatever it is. And for me it was another
Speaker 3: thing was like my body, Like a lot of people
Speaker 3: love to rip me to shreds on social media for
Speaker 3: your body. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Because you're magically and beautiful because that's life is like
Speaker 2: I look at you too, and you know, I'm always
Speaker 2: like anytime you do a carpet, I'm always like you
Speaker 2: are and always the best dressed, like like from head
Speaker 2: to toe, like the most stunning, like the way you
Speaker 2: carry yourself on the carpet, the way that you like
Speaker 2: are I'm always just like someone please like take take
Speaker 2: notes what Daniel Bradbury is doing, like how classy and
Speaker 2: like beautiful and like how I'm like the entire thing
Speaker 2: is everything else. I just I'm always like what I
Speaker 2: like country, Like come on, girls, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: but you are like in your effort classic in what
Speaker 2: you do. So that's why I'm like, I don't understand
Speaker 2: because like you're you're beautiful, you work out, you I
Speaker 2: love the fact that you're like showing your body and
Speaker 2: you're like but in a classy way.
Speaker 3: Yeah what are they saying?
Speaker 2: So because you're warrior. Dana Kramer's here to tell everybody
Speaker 2: exactly where they can go.
Speaker 3: She knows.
Speaker 2: I'm always like, I'm like, girl, you look freaking It's
Speaker 2: like you're just effortless and beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you. But you know, I mean, we
Speaker 3: all know social media is just such a horrible dark
Speaker 3: place most of the time. But I am naturally a
Speaker 3: you know, I'm five to two barely. I'm more on
Speaker 3: the petite side. And then with the anxieties and stress
Speaker 3: that I have struggle with, Like there's been like two
Speaker 3: years where it was super bad. And when I get anxiety,
Speaker 3: I'm personally the type that my appetite completely gets cut off.
Speaker 3: My stomach I can't put anything in it because it's
Speaker 3: so sensitive. And so for me it was really hard
Speaker 3: to gain weight. At times, I would lose a lot
Speaker 3: of weight and it would look it would come off.
Speaker 3: I mean with social media, music videos, all that stuff,
Speaker 3: and you could see the fluctuations I would have and
Speaker 3: not even doing it on purpose, it was just all
Speaker 3: in here and I just could not eat or do anything.
Speaker 3: And so people, I mean, even when I start to
Speaker 3: feel good and I'm feeling out again, I'm working out,
Speaker 3: I go and I don't look for comments. I don't
Speaker 3: do anything, but sometimes they'll just be right there and
Speaker 3: they're like if you hate a burger, like you look
Speaker 3: into rexic and you My favorite one is if she
Speaker 3: put twenty more pounds on her, she would rule country music.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why because that matters, Because that matters.
Speaker 3: It's just always something I get it to meet and greets,
Speaker 3: even like that's the first thing to say to me.
Speaker 3: Is just something about my body and I try to
Speaker 3: be confident in it and just you know, show up
Speaker 3: and show out as much as I can. But some
Speaker 3: days are harder than others, and it it'll weigh on
Speaker 3: you heavier than others. But that has been the most
Speaker 3: common throughout my career, and being in the spotlight is
Speaker 3: just nitpicking. I'm like, y'all love doing this.
Speaker 4: It goes to show that it goes both ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you're too big everyone or in their eyes,
Speaker 1: too big that they're going to complain about you. If
Speaker 1: you're too small, like you literally have to be a
Speaker 1: perfect what's too small?
Speaker 4: What's too big? What's too like? What is it that
Speaker 4: makes you happy with my body?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: You know, it's unbelievable meet and greet stuffny I feel
Speaker 2: like people they don't mean to say like there's been
Speaker 2: like you know, a couple of years ago there was
Speaker 2: people they'll be like, oh my god, you're so much
Speaker 2: prettier in person, and I'm I was like, thanks for you,
Speaker 2: like okay, and then like I just I just did
Speaker 2: a show in uh Reno and they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you're huge, and I'm like thanks like that because I
Speaker 2: just came on stage now because you know, I'm pregnant,
Speaker 2: and so they're like, but you know, I don't think
Speaker 2: they mean it. It's just like also nervous energy too, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I'm like meeting their person so ice. But I
Speaker 2: you know, I get I was just talking to someone
Speaker 2: else too about you know, someone's going through a breakup
Speaker 2: and they're like the worst part, honestly, isn't the breakup.
Speaker 2: It's the social media and all the comments and all
Speaker 2: the hatefulness and all the and I'm like that's the
Speaker 2: piece where it's like it's so easy to be like okay,
Speaker 2: like don't listen to it, turn it off, like you
Speaker 2: know the truth. But it's still when someone's speaking something
Speaker 2: about you, it's not easy to swallow. It's not easy
Speaker 2: to not defend, it's not easy to like have let
Speaker 2: those things come in. It's it's one thing to say like,
Speaker 2: oh that doesn't doesn't bother me, and who cares? It's
Speaker 2: still like still human. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the end of the day, it still sits
Speaker 3: heavy no matter what or who you are.
Speaker 2: So and you've been so incredibly vocal to about your
Speaker 2: anxiety and what is because obviously we talk about anxiety
Speaker 2: a lot on the show, and so what's what's some
Speaker 2: things and tools that you do that kind of helps
Speaker 2: you get, you know, back on study ground.
Speaker 3: You know, I have. I'm about to start a new therapy,
Speaker 3: Like it's like a new I was doing something a
Speaker 3: while back and I quit that and then now I'm
Speaker 3: going to start something new and I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 3: But obviously therapy is wonderful. But you know, in my
Speaker 3: daily life, I try to exercise. I I try to
Speaker 3: at least it just I'm very much of a homebody.
Speaker 3: I like my my little knee time and I'm so
Speaker 3: I'm so boring and I'll literally cleaning my house awkwardly,
Speaker 3: girl like, I don't know, I just want to clean.
Speaker 3: It's not even messy. I just need to do something
Speaker 3: with my hands.
Speaker 4: I'll do that.
Speaker 3: I'll organize and just because your space matters as well
Speaker 3: and how that is and for your mental and just
Speaker 3: I have a dog. I like to, you know, go
Speaker 3: on walks with him, and yeah, just have more of
Speaker 3: self care because some days I will look around and
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, this is a perfect representation of what's
Speaker 3: going on in here, and just reeling it back sometimes
Speaker 3: really helps. And getting organized or as organized as you
Speaker 3: can to to feel like you're you're a little bit
Speaker 3: put back together. That was That's kind of honestly been
Speaker 3: me recently. Actually, I feel like I've been I feel
Speaker 3: super unorganized in my personal life because I'm traveling. I'll
Speaker 3: go do shows and I come back live out a suitcase,
Speaker 3: go keep going on, like I have no stability right now,
Speaker 3: and it is driving me insane. So I mean, just
Speaker 3: these last few days, I stayed up till one o'clock
Speaker 3: in the morning one of these nights, just organizing and cleaning.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I need, I need to do something here.
Speaker 3: So there's just different little things.
Speaker 2: You have You tried the emdre No, No, that's a
Speaker 2: good one. That's a good one to add to your list. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's something that a therapist can can walk you through.
Speaker 2: But it's really good, Okay, very helpful, super incredible, and
Speaker 2: it helps break down like all of those like any
Speaker 2: of the truths that are feel like truth to you
Speaker 2: but are not truths. It helps you get to the
Speaker 2: roots in the bottoms and then kind of dissolve it
Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, you would like it. I read
Speaker 2: somewhere too that you are with your music, you are
Speaker 2: starting to be a little more personal, not personal, sharing
Speaker 2: some more personal stuff about maybe past relationships and stuff.
Speaker 2: You were with your last boyfriend for how many years?
Speaker 3: I was with him for almost four years and we
Speaker 3: broke up about ten months ago.
Speaker 2: So that's got to be in a lot of the
Speaker 2: new songs coming up.
Speaker 3: Right, She's like, it was the one.
Speaker 2: I mean that really, I mean that's going to add
Speaker 2: too to the you know, depression and stress and anxiety.
Speaker 2: But I also think there's so much like to be
Speaker 2: able to sing through that must be so therapeutic as well.
Speaker 3: It really is, And you know, I talk about it
Speaker 3: all the time, and I like to try and be
Speaker 3: as honest and vulnerable in my music as I can,
Speaker 3: or you know, as they let you. But like I
Speaker 3: recently put out a song about anxiety and I've never
Speaker 3: done that before.
Speaker 2: I'm super excited.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and you know, just and you know they've
Speaker 3: asked me, were you kind of nervous about doing that?
Speaker 3: And I'm like no, because I just I want everyone
Speaker 3: to feel like they're here, even me selfishly. I just
Speaker 3: want to, you know, show that I'm not perfect, like
Speaker 3: I still deal with all of this stuff. And yeah,
Speaker 3: writing about relationships and what has gone on is super
Speaker 3: therapeutic and it just just lets you express all of
Speaker 3: those things and not keep it to yourself. And then
Speaker 3: you hear other stories about sometimes the same exact thing,
Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, so I'm not it's not just
Speaker 3: me here, which is nice. And then that feeling is
Speaker 3: vice versa with your with your fans and other people
Speaker 3: friends and everything. So it's really something special. For sure.
Speaker 2: Is there people that in Nashville? I guess anybody. It
Speaker 2: just be anywhere that you love to write with that
Speaker 2: you feel safe, you know, because that is writing is
Speaker 2: such a vulnerable space and there's certain people, you know,
Speaker 2: everybody can write like a fun song with. But then
Speaker 2: when you get to like the intimate anxiety like pouring
Speaker 2: your heart out, is there like do you have the
Speaker 2: is there a sacred group that you.
Speaker 3: Yeah? I love Emily Wise band. She's kind of been
Speaker 3: my go to girl over the past few years. I
Speaker 3: basically wrote my whole last album with her and she
Speaker 3: like vocal produced it with me. And she's always been
Speaker 3: a steady one for me. She's been doing her own
Speaker 3: thing and it's been a little harder to get together recently.
Speaker 3: But she will send me songs out of nowhere and
Speaker 3: be like, hey, thought of you or wrote this thinking
Speaker 3: of you, And she knows what's been going on in
Speaker 3: my life, what has gone on, and so the songs
Speaker 3: she'll send me, I'm like, are you trying to ruin
Speaker 3: my day? Been like, oh my gosh, it's just so
Speaker 3: spot on. So a lot of this new music, to
Speaker 3: be honest, is some of it is her sending me
Speaker 3: stuff that she's like, I know this has been what
Speaker 3: you've been talking to me about lately. So here's this.
Speaker 3: I'm like, gosh, that is unreal. I love her.
Speaker 2: So she's yeah, what was the biggest lesson in the
Speaker 2: breakup for you?
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, you can't force somebody to love you. That
Speaker 3: was the biggest thing for me.
Speaker 2: And nor should anyone ever, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like someone should just like ever, you know, because we
Speaker 2: can't force ourselves to love someone.
Speaker 3: And no one.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've all done it, but I've also been like,
Speaker 2: you know, you stay and you stay and you stay,
Speaker 2: like thinking they're going to like love you the way
Speaker 2: you want to be loved, and it's like sometimes they
Speaker 2: just can't be that the one to do that.
Speaker 3: No, And like this last one, I was, I was confirmed,
Speaker 3: like I'm going to marry this guy. His mom talk
Speaker 3: to me about rings like it was it was very
Speaker 3: very deep, like we had a plan. I didn't think
Speaker 3: of anything else. So I was like, this is my plan.
Speaker 3: And so towards the end it started to he started
Speaker 3: to throw around the breaking up randomly, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you can't do that to me because it's literally destroyed me.
Speaker 3: And that's where a lot of the anxiety came in.
Speaker 3: And I was just worried all the time. And it
Speaker 3: was he was dealing with his own issues that I
Speaker 3: that half of it had nothing to do with me,
Speaker 3: and that was the hardest pill to swallow because you
Speaker 3: wanted to You're like, Okay, well I'm gonna I hope
Speaker 3: you love me, like I hope this keeps going. And
Speaker 3: it just I mean, half of it, like I said,
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with me, And so it was
Speaker 3: just battling, the juggling of figuring that out, figuring out, Okay,
Speaker 3: this isn't you, but I love him so much I
Speaker 3: want it to work out. It was just a lot
Speaker 3: of like battling in here, and I give people way
Speaker 3: too many chances. That was That's something I have been
Speaker 3: learning not to do. It's really hard.
Speaker 2: The podcast of chances.
Speaker 3: Yes, I love it, but oh man, yeah, I gave
Speaker 3: him way too many chances towards the end, and he
Speaker 3: felt like I was going to be there forever and
Speaker 3: then it just one of the last hey, peace out.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, yeah, I'm piecing out too,
Speaker 3: and he didn't like that, and he made my life
Speaker 3: a living hell for a few months, and that was
Speaker 3: a really hard pill to swallow too. You're like, I
Speaker 3: love him so much, but then yeah, so yeah, you
Speaker 3: can't force anything. And once it's over, it's just it's
Speaker 3: not meant to be, whether how much you love him
Speaker 3: or not. I will love him for the rest of
Speaker 3: my life, but I just, you know, I've gotten to
Speaker 3: the point where I'm like, I just hope he's good.
Speaker 3: Hope he's you know, living it up. He had a
Speaker 3: new girl immediately almost, so I'm like that for sure overlapped.
Speaker 3: So that was a hard post swallow as well.
Speaker 2: Hope you know that none of it is a reflection
Speaker 2: on you though, Like absolutely none of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is That's what I've been trying to learn.
Speaker 2: So I think it's really hard for people that have
Speaker 2: that characteristic to swallow when you actually love yourself more
Speaker 2: than you love them, and for you to say when
Speaker 2: he says peace out and you go, okay, you know what,
Speaker 2: actually me too, it's like you really taking care of yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that is a really confident, big decision to make.
Speaker 2: That's hard for someone with his characteristics to probably digest.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And it took a while, like I said,
Speaker 3: the chances and going back and forth and loving him
Speaker 3: when he really wasn't loving me, and and then you know,
Speaker 3: I was I that that's saying. You just wake up.
Speaker 3: One day, I literally just I was like, I'm not
Speaker 3: doing this anymore. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: i can finally eat and I'm not, you know, so
Speaker 3: wound up with what he's doing while I'm trying to
Speaker 3: do what I'm doing. Like it was this just lit like.
Speaker 2: It's that wild what we do and how we do
Speaker 2: because I'm like I remember, that's like everything like yet
Speaker 2: dictated how his energy and his emotions dictated how then
Speaker 2: I was during my day. And it's like, well, it's.
Speaker 1: Like, like, did your anxiety pretty much go away once
Speaker 1: you made that decision to just be done? I, like
Speaker 1: I said I would.
Speaker 3: I was losing a lot of weight because I couldn't eat.
Speaker 3: I was in this spider flight mode all the time.
Speaker 3: And like after that finish, and then it was like
Speaker 3: the back and forth for a while after the breakup,
Speaker 3: and then after that chapter closed, and then I saw
Speaker 3: he was with somebody else and she actually moved in
Speaker 3: with him, and I was like wow. And then from
Speaker 3: then on and like now I've like been able to eat.
Speaker 3: I've been feeling it out more like I've been in
Speaker 3: my My mom and my sister, they're like, isn't that
Speaker 3: wild what he did to your body? I'm like, that's wild.
Speaker 3: I like shed y.
Speaker 1: Well, It's like with Jana, it's like she's had anxiety
Speaker 1: since I've known her, and it's like she gets divorced
Speaker 1: and she's like I don't have anxiety anymore, and I'm
Speaker 1: like what, Like it's so bizarre.
Speaker 3: Denminators.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny is I was always called the common denominator, right, yeah, figure,
Speaker 2: welcome to my dadator. You're so welcome here.
Speaker 3: You get right in. Danielle, I love it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Danielle on the positive things. You're going on tour, right,
Speaker 2: it's coming up here soon or are you already on?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I start yeah, okay with Jordan, right with Jordan. I
Speaker 2: love his song he is Out, Jordan Davis. Jordan Davis
Speaker 2: was now I'm freeing the total the title. I was like, no, not,
Speaker 2: that's that's good too. I don't know that you were
Speaker 2: listening is like bye bye do it. I was like,
Speaker 2: it's like a whole thing. I was like, never mind, no,
Speaker 2: the around, No, that's not world ones around, it's the
Speaker 2: I think I think this is him. I feel really
Speaker 2: bad now if it's the one where it's like, oh
Speaker 2: it's new, it comes like everything that comes out next,
Speaker 2: it's like, uh, next thing, you know, next thing, you know,
Speaker 2: the next thing he knows. Yeah, I love that song.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so true.
Speaker 2: It's like you're buying a ring and you're moving in
Speaker 2: and you're on a baby then yeah. Really related to
Speaker 2: the Deer on the Wall, statement at that the Deerhead
Speaker 2: on the Wall. The lyrics, clearly I don't know the lyrics.
Speaker 4: Will we're talking about the same song, Yes we are?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So you're going on tour, You've got
Speaker 2: Monster out, Like what what else is going on? I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously that's a lot like happening, but like, what what
Speaker 2: do you what do you want and what do you like?
Speaker 2: What are you aiming for?
Speaker 3: So recently I've been in and out of the studio
Speaker 3: and like just this morning, I had a meeting, you know,
Speaker 3: putting a set list together for that tour and just
Speaker 3: making it the best that I can, and just getting
Speaker 3: really excited about that. I'm releasing another song by the
Speaker 3: end of this month or the beginning, I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I'm releasing another song soon, and my goal is
Speaker 3: to put out another album. I am sitting on a
Speaker 3: lot of songs that I am super excited about. And
Speaker 3: it's songs that I'm not putting an agenda to or
Speaker 3: I'm not putting any rules to. I'm like, oh, well
Speaker 3: I gotta have this radio single, or oh I need
Speaker 3: to make it country, or I'm not putting labels on anything.
Speaker 3: And that has been really fun. And freeing for me
Speaker 3: to do. And this music, I feel like, is finally
Speaker 3: a group of songs and I'm like, I'm actually super
Speaker 3: proud of this group of songs. It's more me than ever,
Speaker 3: I mean, sonically, lyrically, and just the stories and it's
Speaker 3: very relatable to your mid to late twenties, like it
Speaker 3: just takes you through that life and different perspectives and
Speaker 3: so it's you know, we're going to be presenting it
Speaker 3: to the team here soon and hopefully it's all green
Speaker 3: lights from there. But yeah, that's my goal right now,
Speaker 3: is just to put out another project and just just
Speaker 3: have fun with that.
Speaker 2: So I almost think that you say you're proud of
Speaker 2: the music, I almost feel like that's a translation that
Speaker 2: you're proud of yourself too, for everything that you've walked through.
Speaker 2: So I am good. You should be. I'm talking to
Speaker 2: my kid, I'm like, are you proud of yourself?
Speaker 4: Because you should be you she basically could be our child. Almost.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let us let our listeners know where they
Speaker 2: can find you if they haven't followed you already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on all social media, Instagram, TikTok, I mean,
Speaker 3: the whole, the whole, Nines and then I'm Spotify, Apple Music,
Speaker 3: anywhere you can find music.
Speaker 2: So Daniel Bradberry, thank you girls so much for coming
Speaker 2: on mine down.
Speaker 4: Sweet, thanks for coming.
Speaker 2: Anytime you want to talk therapy. I'm your girl, all right, girl,
Speaker 2: thank you so.
Speaker 3: Much, Thank you, Bye bye, sweet little Gosh.
Speaker 2: She's just she's just become such a beautiful woman. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she really has just really grun into herself. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine, Yeah, can you imagine anybody,
Speaker 2: Like we've talked about this when we do like the
Speaker 2: the Laguna Beach in the Hills people and but like sixteen.
Speaker 1: No, can't imagine.
Speaker 2: I mean, and coming onto music Row and she works.
Speaker 2: I mean she's under a big label. Yeah, that's like
Speaker 2: it's a monster label. I remember she was playing at
Speaker 2: a show that I was playing at and just being like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's so young, and I just I've like loved to
Speaker 2: watch like I've loved her evolution. And her voice doesn't
Speaker 2: grit in her body. It's crazy. Her little stairwell stuff
Speaker 2: that she has Instagram are so good too. She got
Speaker 2: such a pretty voice. She goes to a stairwell and
Speaker 2: like sing songs and then like beautiful voice. I wish
Speaker 2: I could sound like that in a stairwell or anywhere. Actually,
Speaker 2: I wish I could sound like that even in my
Speaker 2: own head. Take a break, and then we'll unpin the
Speaker 2: big pin.
Speaker 3: On pin.
Speaker 2: Unpinned the big pin. This is a realization, and I
Speaker 2: hope it helps someone somewhere. You really wish men would
Speaker 2: pick one out of It was a realization that men.
Speaker 4: Spouses.
Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't be so men. Okay, it's men. I
Speaker 2: tried for a minute, super ego about it. So I
Speaker 2: had this realization. I was at a We have a
Speaker 2: little support group that I go to once a month.
Speaker 2: It's women in the industry that are married to men
Speaker 2: in the industry. It just allows its space for us
Speaker 2: to like all chat and have like a safe place
Speaker 2: to share the struggles.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So I it's been led by a therapist that you
Speaker 2: and I both know and have worked with, and her
Speaker 2: husband recently passed, and and she's magical. And so at
Speaker 2: one point I say to her, was there ever a
Speaker 2: time where he wasn't nailing it?
Speaker 3: Oh? Him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So I don't know why this never
Speaker 2: occurred to me. You think everyone's perfect When we did
Speaker 2: couple therapy with them. Yeah, like they were like this
Speaker 2: is our stuff and this is where like he never
Speaker 2: knew so here, this is what I think. Okay, I
Speaker 2: think therapist Amy and her husband. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: she sent me the cutest photo of them, because I've
Speaker 2: been like that's another pin for another pin, but like
Speaker 2: she like sends me their like perfect little family photo,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you guys are just precious, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: they like they never fight, right, but they do.
Speaker 1: They everyone does, everyone does. Okay, what should men do?
Speaker 2: Okay? So I guess I just thought all along like
Speaker 2: men like if you're a therapist, then that must be
Speaker 2: like I've figured at home, it's just very like, tell
Speaker 2: me about your day, very connected. How are your feeling
Speaker 2: like i'd assume I feel. Yes, I imagined when they're
Speaker 2: cooking dinner, they're like stirring right. The story I made
Speaker 2: up today when you didn't text me back was that
Speaker 2: maybe you weren't thinking of me, and that really hurt
Speaker 2: my feelings. This is what I thought was happening in
Speaker 2: all of their homes, but in reality, and a couple
Speaker 2: therapists have opened up to me and been like oh no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, And I was like wait, what And they're like, no,
Speaker 2: I had to instruct I mean the the therapists that
Speaker 2: we share or had shared. Huh whose husband passed away?
Speaker 2: She was like no, I had to sit him down
Speaker 2: and say. She said. One day, I slammed my laptop
Speaker 2: and I said, I need you to date me tonight.
Speaker 2: I need you to court me. And I said, wait
Speaker 2: a second. Of all the intune, intuitive, well knowing, all knowing,
Speaker 2: feeling people, this guy need to be told what you need.
Speaker 2: And she said, oh yeah. All the time, Guys, I've
Speaker 2: been walking around thinking, well, maybe I'm just impossible, or
Speaker 2: maybe I'm just you know. I think there's I hear
Speaker 2: what you're saying, but I think there's levels to it.
Speaker 2: So I think there are things that i've that you've
Speaker 2: told me that are absolutely not okay. Sure that I
Speaker 2: don't think that guy would have done. Sure, sure, But
Speaker 2: I also think there are the mundane things that all
Speaker 2: husbands and wives like gets.
Speaker 4: Men and women.
Speaker 1: I think everyone has to be reminded in their relationship.
Speaker 2: Think you ruined it for yourself now.
Speaker 3: Just that we all don't.
Speaker 2: I don't have this idea, okay, because you are helpless romantic. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I also know that like you know, well yeah,
Speaker 2: but like I also know that like as deeply and
Speaker 2: as madly in love that I am with Alan, and
Speaker 2: how much we love and respect each other. Granted we
Speaker 2: have not had a fight yet and we've been dating
Speaker 2: for ten months, and I love and and well, in
Speaker 2: my mind like all will never be what my ex
Speaker 2: and I were That was a toxic mess of disrespect
Speaker 2: and I'm not loyalty and whatever, and I know that
Speaker 2: we're gonna most likely have little annoyances, and we're going
Speaker 2: to bother each other and we're going to have little,
Speaker 2: h like little snippet fights. Having said that, which I
Speaker 2: think is I'll be like, well, I want to feel
Speaker 2: dated because he's you know, he's working a lot or this,
Speaker 2: that and the other, and sure are those things, but
Speaker 2: I think there are other things that you need to
Speaker 2: take into account that aren't normal. Maybe right, No, But
Speaker 2: I like, I'm like, well, why would you want to
Speaker 2: date me? Like I'm going, okay, you're home for four nights,
Speaker 2: Like I want a date night. Well he does too,
Speaker 2: but also and we have a brand new baby, so
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't I want to plan that for you.
Speaker 2: But then I feel like I'm nervous to take you
Speaker 2: away from the baby those things. Yes, I just think
Speaker 2: we have to unfortunately spell it out a little but ye. Like,
Speaker 2: for example, I said to Alan the other day, because
Speaker 2: he's going to be away for a bit, I said,
Speaker 2: you know, the kids are going to go to MIC's tonight,
Speaker 2: so I would really like and He's like, oh, we
Speaker 2: should do a date and I'm like, yes, I would
Speaker 2: love that, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I mean, we just have this conversation
Speaker 1: the other night. I was like, hey, like, we haven't
Speaker 1: gone on a date in a while, and he was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the calendar is so full. Like he's
Speaker 1: truly not they're not, but I'm saying he's not doing
Speaker 1: it and I don't want to take her out.
Speaker 4: It's literally he looks at.
Speaker 1: It and he's like, well, crap, there's something on the
Speaker 1: schedule every day, and then it leaves his mind and
Speaker 1: then I have to remind him like, okay, well maybe
Speaker 1: look out a month in advance and put it on
Speaker 1: the calendar.
Speaker 4: It's just the.
Speaker 2: Piece though, is is when that goes too long, right,
Speaker 2: then you start to get like, well they don't care,
Speaker 2: and then you.
Speaker 1: Start to get everything I have learned, at least for
Speaker 1: us personally, through everything that we have been through. We
Speaker 1: have to communicate that before we get to that place,
Speaker 1: because that was the problem. We got it so far
Speaker 1: because I was pissed about this, He was pissed about this.
Speaker 1: No one ever said anything, and it just eventually whatever.
Speaker 1: So like we had to come together. The other day
Speaker 1: he had a little frustration and I had a frustration,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it. We're like, okay, cool, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's not I know it's easier
Speaker 1: said than done, but we have to communicate that, but just.
Speaker 4: What it takes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a communications major. Why am I suck?
Speaker 1: Why you expect no offense but you expect him to
Speaker 1: just no offense, but want to do it. Don't take
Speaker 1: this the wrong way. Hope you don't take this the
Speaker 1: wrong way or ask do you expect him to.
Speaker 2: Just you know and do it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's not fair, but you were talking about it.
Speaker 2: It's not fair. It is the time, so that would
Speaker 2: be nice. Yes, agreed, But like the other day he
Speaker 2: was like, Hey, I'm going to be home for three
Speaker 2: nights and I really want to date you. And I
Speaker 2: was like you do. And he's like, well, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: like I miss you, Like he's like you just you're
Speaker 2: always holding a baby like it's I So that must
Speaker 2: have felt good. Then, oh it feels great. I honestly
Speaker 2: am just hoping that this little nugget of information busts
Speaker 2: all the things that people see on social media, how
Speaker 2: in love they are and all these marriages, because I
Speaker 2: think I sometimes have an an unrealistic expectation where he
Speaker 2: is just it's Adam and Eve's stuff, and he's not
Speaker 2: wired the same way as me. And if I say
Speaker 2: what I need, what I want, what I feel, thank
Speaker 2: you and Amy Alexander, it is easier for him to
Speaker 2: give me what I need and what I want and
Speaker 2: help me understand how I feel. So I will say
Speaker 2: one of the coolest things happened, and I agree with you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we were Alan and I did a date night. It
Speaker 2: was probably a month ago, and we're sitting at dinner
Speaker 2: and he goes, okay, and it was very like coach like,
Speaker 2: but I either way, I appreciated it. He's like, he goes, so,
Speaker 2: what do you think we're doing great in a relationship
Speaker 2: and what do you think we need to work on
Speaker 2: Oh I love that, and he's like, and then then
Speaker 2: as a whole, and then what's something that we need
Speaker 2: that I need to work on and that you need
Speaker 2: to work on? Did he have anything they already lined up?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: He didn't, Okay, good. Yeah. So it was what we like,
Speaker 2: what we personally needed to work on, what we personally
Speaker 2: wanted the other person to work on. So it was like,
Speaker 2: it's not just attacking one person. I need you to
Speaker 2: do better at this. I need you to do like
Speaker 2: it's like I need to do better at this, and
Speaker 2: can you do better at this? Yes?
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 2: This is good. Yeah. So I thought that was just
Speaker 2: like A really I was, but I was. I also
Speaker 2: turned to him like, oh my god, you're like my
Speaker 2: dream man. I didn't even ask you to like do
Speaker 2: a check in and you're checking in Yeah it's the dog.
Speaker 2: But so yeah, so that like it's almost like a yeah,
Speaker 2: I liked it well.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't so like, hey, we need to have
Speaker 1: our check which I understand you have to have that
Speaker 1: saying that it all needed to do it. So I'm
Speaker 1: not coming down on that at all, but it's got
Speaker 1: to be kind of refreshing, like hey, we didn't have
Speaker 1: this scheduled. We have to have a check in. It
Speaker 1: was just like, hey, what are we doing? Like that
Speaker 1: had to be really great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, funny thing happened the other day at baseball. Alan
Speaker 2: and I were there. I needed Mike to take Jolie
Speaker 2: to soccer and so then he met me at Jason's
Speaker 2: baseball and I was there with Alan or whatever, which
Speaker 2: Parker and Mackenzie are at. So we were like jobbing
Speaker 2: and stuff. Yeah, so and then you know, I'm standing
Speaker 2: over by Alan and Mike walks every He's like, so,
Speaker 2: how's our baby?
Speaker 3: See?
Speaker 4: I love that it was that is good.
Speaker 2: It's not our baby though, because it's our baby, but
Speaker 2: that's fine.
Speaker 4: Feel a part.
Speaker 2: It was funny and I was just like, well so
Speaker 2: we had a good laugh about that.
Speaker 1: So so how is that going with him helping with
Speaker 1: like sports, because it's being crazy.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 4: That's that's a process.
Speaker 2: Every day is it falls on mind, nothing falls on
Speaker 2: a Wednesday, not one thing that falls.
Speaker 1: Your personal calendar you sent me and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: she ain't kidding. Literally, there's every Wednesday day beside Wednesday.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, i need help because I'm like and
Speaker 2: it's like, well, I can meet you here. I'm like yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's the getting them from school, feeding them before
Speaker 2: going to the It's like it's a having to do
Speaker 2: that every single day, like and there's same sports the
Speaker 2: same days, Like I need help well, And I think that's.
Speaker 1: As they kind older where that gets important to be
Speaker 1: able to have that communication and like things, your needs
Speaker 1: may change and you'll just work it out together.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also have like a pin and I don't
Speaker 2: know if I can't unpin it on here, but I'll
Speaker 2: tell you guys a little. Sorry, guys, I know you
Speaker 2: hate when we do that. Maybe one day private unpinned
Speaker 2: you wind down. Yeah, when we go out, oh yeah
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Speaker 2: We will tell your people what you want, what you need,
Speaker 2: what you feel, Yeah, and do a little cute little
Speaker 2: random check and like, hey, what do I need to
Speaker 2: do better at And this is to the one percent
Speaker 2: of men that listen to this show, okay, and women
Speaker 2: and women goodbye, bye bye