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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Giants the Giants podcast Network. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Giants Huddle podcast for this rapid reaction to

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Speaker 1: the Giants Eagles game. I'm Madeline Burke, joined by Paul Detino.

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Speaker 1: But first a reminder that the Giants Huddle podcast can

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Speaker 1: Slash podcasts, and on all popular podcast platforms. Now joined

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Speaker 1: by Paul Detino Dots Giants go down to Philadelphia followed

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Speaker 1: to the Eagles thirty four to ten. This game was

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Speaker 1: tied at three at the half, and really that third

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Speaker 1: quarter got out of control here starting field position for

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Speaker 1: the Eagles in the third quarter, the Giants twenty one,

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Speaker 1: the Giants twenty one, and the Philadelphia forty three on

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Speaker 1: three successive drives during which Philadelphia scored on each one

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Speaker 1: of them and then took a full two score lead,

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Speaker 1: and that's what really put this thing in jeopardy for

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Obviously, the interception that was thrown at the

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Speaker 1: start of the third quarter was one problem. Then Riagor

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Speaker 1: had the thirty plus you I punt returned, the longest

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Speaker 1: up for their second scoring drive. And and really, to

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Speaker 1: be frank with you, even though right after that they

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Speaker 1: went to the Giants went to Mike glenn and replacing

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Speaker 1: Jake From, it was already the damn was was was

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Speaker 1: busting water. I mean it was not good. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned the quarterbacks as well. Jake From

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Speaker 1: did get his first NFL start today in Philadelphia. The

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Speaker 1: young quarterback kind of you know, get that first half

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Speaker 1: of action. This is the first time since nineteen the

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Speaker 1: Giants have fielded three different starting quarterbacks. And ninety two

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Speaker 1: it was Phil Simms, Jeff has Stittler, and Ken Graham.

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Speaker 1: This year it's Daniel Jones, Mike Glennan and Jake was

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Speaker 1: around for those guys. Absolutely, I believe that. Absolutely. I

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Speaker 1: feel like that, you know, they're in your twilight years,

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Speaker 1: I think that the you know, the interesting thing too,

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Speaker 1: From goes out there. I think that this is a

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Speaker 1: six days. Uh, And you could kind of see there

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Speaker 1: his eyes were a little bright. You know. He said

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Speaker 1: I don't think that should surprise anybody, because he was

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Speaker 1: six of seven for twenty five yards and was sacked twice,

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Speaker 1: had the one interception before they took him out. And Madlene, look,

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Speaker 1: we saw this guy play for three full seasons at Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and his touchdown to interception ratio was terrific. Completed sixty

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Speaker 1: all the intangibles that would make you think he would

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Speaker 1: have a chance. Now, I can't tell you how much

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Speaker 1: of the playbook he took into this game, because we

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Speaker 1: don't know that. You know, he had the two minute

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Speaker 1: don't know how much of the playbook he was able

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Speaker 1: still think that the Giants will probably look at this

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Speaker 1: NFL start may have just given him too many butterflies

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Speaker 1: right well, And this is a tough start for anyone

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Speaker 1: to make for your first NFL start. You're facing one

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Speaker 1: I mean, this Eagles defense has nothing to scoff at um.

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Speaker 1: And then your offensive line too, I mean, Nate Soldier

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Speaker 1: the Giants were just not able to capitalize. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: name because eight of Boston Scott's twelve career touchdowns have

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Speaker 1: four years, right exactly, but somehow this is his moment

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