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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football club. Boys. This is Mick
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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson
Speaker 1: Wolves and Nicky Spagnola. It is the Final Friday or
Speaker 1: the final Yeah, it's the final mix shots of the
Speaker 1: month of February. It's a final Friday in February, and
Speaker 1: that means the Friday in final It's a fabulous football Friday,
Speaker 1: the final Friday in February, very nice. And you know
Speaker 1: what that means. That means that the off season is over.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost time for the new league years. It's
Speaker 1: the month of March and Dangs are about to pick
Speaker 1: up again. Did you have a good offseason, Mickey? I did.
Speaker 1: Half of it was just the last two days in
Speaker 1: the house. And I hate the off season by the
Speaker 1: way you made in the month of February and March.
Speaker 1: And yes, yes, because I mean the stuff already starts, right,
Speaker 1: all the mashed potatoes being thrown at the wall. Hope
Speaker 1: some sticks don't need any facts about anything, right, all
Speaker 1: the talk about guys that are already free agents and
Speaker 1: they're not free agents, and half of them will get
Speaker 1: and how many of that are on a roster, not
Speaker 1: I'm not talking necessarily this roster, but other rosters who
Speaker 1: are actually about to become free agent agents that they
Speaker 1: don't know they're going to become, right, that's right. And
Speaker 1: the only official thing that has started is the franchise
Speaker 1: tag season has opened on Wednesday something like that Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and I think it was, so yeah, it's been a
Speaker 1: couple of days, so yeah, but yeah, this is my
Speaker 1: least favorite time of the year because of that stuff,
Speaker 1: because of all that speculation. Yes, and you know, and
Speaker 1: it's well, there was a report. Well now it wasn't
Speaker 1: a report, it was somebody's opinion. You know what. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why it's one of my favorite times of
Speaker 1: the year because this is the time of the year
Speaker 1: where when you can spread conspiracy. That too, but this
Speaker 1: is the time of the year when a football team
Speaker 1: is put together. The team is not put together in
Speaker 1: training camp. You're just practicing plays in training camp. The
Speaker 1: team is put together starting now, starting with the combine
Speaker 1: next week, and then you got free agency, and you
Speaker 1: got the draft and all of that stuff. And as
Speaker 1: has happened for the last thirty years in this league
Speaker 1: whatever ever since free agency began in this league and
Speaker 1: the early to mid nineties. Uh, you have a third
Speaker 1: of the team. A third of the team changes over
Speaker 1: from year to year, at least a third. I don't
Speaker 1: see a big green notebook started yet. I have started
Speaker 1: by big Green yea. But it really starts next week
Speaker 1: at the free agency and we are having a combine.
Speaker 1: By the way, they're not striking. Okay, okay, nice, nice
Speaker 1: that got cleared up and cleared up real fast. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: So we were talking about guy I forgot what the
Speaker 1: heck I was gonna say, you cut me? Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: go Yeah, who cares about that? Here's what I want
Speaker 1: to talk about, Okay, Kenny Burrows man, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, but you know he was diabetic. I
Speaker 1: used to see him maybe a year at the in
Speaker 1: Atlanta at the Black College Hall of Fame. If I'm
Speaker 1: not mistakes Black of fas uh and man, I look
Speaker 1: at some of his Uh. His bio went to Rains
Speaker 1: High School. You guys ever heard of Rains High School
Speaker 1: in Florida, Jacksonville, Florida. Yeah, I think I have there's
Speaker 1: a lot of star players they can't, Levoy Butler being
Speaker 1: one of them that actually just made the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, did Bob Hayes go the reins?
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound right. It's they have They have a
Speaker 1: rivalry with another high school down in Jacksonville, and he
Speaker 1: may have gone through the other high school. But you've
Speaker 1: got some great players went to that school. Kenny Burrows
Speaker 1: was extremely unique wide receiver, especially for that time. Sixty three,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pounds and he could run like
Speaker 1: the win. He was one of those guys back in
Speaker 1: the day and I played with the guy like this.
Speaker 1: They used to part of their running style was a prince,
Speaker 1: you know, like the horses where they print. He was
Speaker 1: so big and he was like a big stallion, and
Speaker 1: boy when he ran, I'm sure he ran one hundred
Speaker 1: yards at the time. Sure he ran the sub ten
Speaker 1: seconds hundred yards. But man, this guy was an amazing athlete.
Speaker 1: And when you talk about somebody to talk trash, just
Speaker 1: like Ron Sprangers talked trash, boy, he has you're cracking
Speaker 1: up all day long. He comes in. You can hear
Speaker 1: him coming in before you see him. That's just what
Speaker 1: kind of guy he was. Center like Michael Irvin. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a lot of fun. He was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. But yeah, I guess that's Florida. I think
Speaker 1: I think I saw he ended up third all time
Speaker 1: on the Oilers slash Titans receiving. I think the only
Speaker 1: guy who had more was Ernest Gibbons, and there was
Speaker 1: one other one other. I don't remember the receiver. I
Speaker 1: remember reading it this morning. Um yeah, oh absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Bob Hayes went to Gilbert High School in Jackson. That
Speaker 1: would be their rival, if I'm not mistaken. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got They've got a Wayne's has a well Gilbert
Speaker 1: Gilberts now in middle school. That was of course, um
Speaker 1: before back in the day. Yeah, that was before sights.
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. Um but Kenny Kenny
Speaker 1: in fact, Okay, so Kenny Burrow would have I've lost
Speaker 1: my spot here, so he would he would have wrapped
Speaker 1: up his career when if I've got it here played
Speaker 1: against I wanted? Was my next question? Is? I was wondering? Okay,
Speaker 1: height one your first year was his last year, nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty one. By that time, he wasn't playing much. He
Speaker 1: was just kind of prancing on the sideline. I'm sure
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have talked to one Moon
Speaker 1: about him and see if he did have forty catches
Speaker 1: his last year and seven touchdowns? Lets you know, man,
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns his last year. Yeah, so he was and
Speaker 1: it's so funny. We talked about Ron Springs. He was
Speaker 1: also afflicted with diabetes and he was being pushed around
Speaker 1: a lot in the wheelchair those last years, but didn't
Speaker 1: stop his mouth from running. Still. He didn't want anyone
Speaker 1: ever to feel sorry for him. He was proud to
Speaker 1: show up every time every year, and it got so
Speaker 1: bad it was just like wine. They had to amputate
Speaker 1: his foot, but that never uh put a dash on
Speaker 1: any of his on his spirit at all. So he
Speaker 1: was just one of those guys you just had, had
Speaker 1: a joy to be around. And he wasn't belittling at all.
Speaker 1: It was just mainly bragging on himself. He talked bad
Speaker 1: about anyone else, just talked about how good he was.
Speaker 1: So that was always fun to hear him talk double zero.
Speaker 1: Last person to do that, that right, Yeah, your word. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he came a little after Moto well, especially with
Speaker 1: the new number. Yeah, yeah, and in memory of Kenny.
Speaker 1: All right, UM, I know or look at look at
Speaker 1: the legal pad. He's got multiple legal pads in front
Speaker 1: of him here. And so Mickey, I'll let you start
Speaker 1: with the first thing that you want to got something
Speaker 1: I want to get into at some point, but I'll
Speaker 1: let you since it's called mick shots, let's start. Let's
Speaker 1: start here. We'll move into the free agency stuff. But uh,
Speaker 1: do you realize yes? I do. Yes, Where were you
Speaker 1: thirty three years ago today? Yes, that's exactly what I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about. Um, Landry. Uh, it's fired and
Speaker 1: February Jones bought the team February twenty. That was to
Speaker 1: day twenty, February twenty five. I'm surprised that wasn't shouted
Speaker 1: out on every TV every and I want to show
Speaker 1: you every February twenty fifth. It's one of the first
Speaker 1: things I think of that. I did my homework and
Speaker 1: I found a copy of my story that I wrote. Uh,
Speaker 1: that night, Landry's old friends feel sadness at the end
Speaker 1: of the coach's reign. Um talk to um Jean Stallings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jean said, I don't that was back in nineteen Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Well at that time he was he was Arizona Phoenix
Speaker 1: at that point, whatever it was. He said, I don't
Speaker 1: like to think of it in terms of coach Landry
Speaker 1: being fired. I'd rather think of it as a man
Speaker 1: bought the team and wanted to put his own man
Speaker 1: in charge. Landry is too good a man to be fired.
Speaker 1: Talked to Ernie Stottner. Um, he said he'd like to
Speaker 1: see Tom bring the team back. Uh and uh even
Speaker 1: Jerry Rome by the way, who, by the way, was
Speaker 1: the quarterback coach on that team. This is a tough
Speaker 1: situation for me. Now, this is the funny thing, because
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this a little while ago
Speaker 1: about when, or at least I recounted the story one
Speaker 1: of my either mix shots or columns when it came
Speaker 1: time for Jerry to decide who they were going to draft.
Speaker 1: But back then you could sign. You had the first pick,
Speaker 1: so you could sign the guy ahead of time and
Speaker 1: not get into a John Elway thing or whatever. Right,
Speaker 1: and so when they were trying to negotiate with Lee
Speaker 1: Steinberg for Troy Aikman's contract, they were going, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think this Mandridge guy. I think we might
Speaker 1: take him instead of Troy a right, they were just
Speaker 1: playing right. But here's here's the quote from Jerry on
Speaker 1: so my this This ran February twenty six, so the
Speaker 1: next morning, and the quote from Jerry was, we believe
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman is the greatest is the greatest opportunity to
Speaker 1: come down the pike in a long time. There's no
Speaker 1: football player that Jimmy Johnson thinks higher of than Troy Aikman.
Speaker 1: Because there was some thought that because of Jimmy from Miami,
Speaker 1: he would want Steve Walsh to be his quarterback, and
Speaker 1: he did, but Jerry said he's the best college player
Speaker 1: in the country, unquestionably, And then they tried to play
Speaker 1: this ruse later on to negotiate like, oh, Lee, we
Speaker 1: may not draft him. So if you want to be
Speaker 1: the first pick in the drafts, my boy, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta go ahead and take this contract. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I found that, and then look at this picture I
Speaker 1: got when Jimmy Johnson came to town with Steven Jones.
Speaker 1: What what happens to folks at thirty three and the
Speaker 1: rest of us too? By the way, right, Steve was out,
Speaker 1: Oh so he would have been how old about then
Speaker 1: Steve Stephen how he wasn't very midwe he's probably yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I want to say he was. He was right out
Speaker 1: of college. He might have been twenty three, twenty four
Speaker 1: at the most, Yeah, because he had thought he was
Speaker 1: going into the oil business with Jerry, and uh he
Speaker 1: was twenty five or twenty four then four as close. Ye,
Speaker 1: so and it was funny question, he's fifty seven, yeah,
Speaker 1: whoa yeah. So the funny thing was I went back
Speaker 1: into I'd be like, whoa yeah. Right. I looked at
Speaker 1: the cliffs and here's one of the headlines in the
Speaker 1: paper was from Pete Roselle. It was a quote, this
Speaker 1: is like Lombardi's death, meaning Landry got fired. That's very
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little over. This was that's
Speaker 1: what the cowboys. There's a lot of cowboys fans who
Speaker 1: felt that way. Yeah, yeah, my sister. There was another
Speaker 1: There was an other headline, Tram Eclipse by Jones. Jones
Speaker 1: is in charge. And I saw this quote from Jerry
Speaker 1: said this is going to be my life. And he
Speaker 1: wasn't lying, right, he absolutely did it. And there was
Speaker 1: also uh, this came about too because we had found
Speaker 1: out at the last minute somebody else was trying to
Speaker 1: buy the team. Well it was Don Carter, the odor
Speaker 1: of the Matmocks, and uh, there was a price is
Speaker 1: pretty cheap back then, one hundred and forty million, right,
Speaker 1: he had that. So the headline was Don Carter. Carter
Speaker 1: made last minute bid to buy Boys and it didn't materialize.
Speaker 1: Jerry had a what do you call it, a consortium
Speaker 1: or a group together to help with the deal. Um,
Speaker 1: and the night before I saw every and the cat
Speaker 1: got out of the bag, you know, report Johnson replacing Landry.
Speaker 1: This was the morning of the twenty fifth Dallas Times
Speaker 1: Harold the Cowboys deal near with Landry. Cowboys deal near,
Speaker 1: Landry liking to go. And we even got a hold
Speaker 1: of the ad at the University of Miami, Sam Jenkovic, however,
Speaker 1: and he said he didn't know anything about a press
Speaker 1: conference coming up, but he confirmed that Johnson had talked
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. So it was it was kind of
Speaker 1: cool to go back thirty three years and read all
Speaker 1: this stuff. And my lasting memory of that night, more
Speaker 1: so than the press conference, was afterwards, when we finished
Speaker 1: our stories, we retreated into Texas office, tex Ram's office
Speaker 1: at at the Ranch and there was a bunch of
Speaker 1: probably about five six of us the writers in there,
Speaker 1: and of course he had beer for us, and we
Speaker 1: sat around shooting the bowl and beer beer, not him though,
Speaker 1: not him, still him there we were sitting and we
Speaker 1: ran out of seats. I remember sitting on the floor, uh,
Speaker 1: next to Frank Luxo, who had covered the team since
Speaker 1: the sixties and uh and Frank got up. It was
Speaker 1: getting late. Frank got up and goes, well, I gotta
Speaker 1: go home to the lovery Henrietta was his wife. Uh
Speaker 1: and finish off. My birthday February twenty fifth was his birthday.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's running. Oh there it is the picture
Speaker 1: at it was MIA's right there. You go, Ivan Mazel
Speaker 1: Northwest Highway. I've just happened and happened to go into
Speaker 1: MIA's restaurant. Uh, and saw Jimmy in there. Of course,
Speaker 1: no one knew who what Jerry looked like then. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: Ivan Mazel Mizelle got a photograph from the morning he
Speaker 1: worked for the Dallas More News then and that's where
Speaker 1: the cat really got out of the bag. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was that picture right there, and so he Ivan Mazell,
Speaker 1: he was the um but probably college football writer then
Speaker 1: for the morning news, right, and so he knew Jimmy
Speaker 1: very well, and so he sees Jimmy there and then
Speaker 1: he sees he must have been some guy. No, he
Speaker 1: just happened to It was a Friday night, Friday night,
Speaker 1: Friday night, and he went out to dinner at MIA's restaurant,
Speaker 1: and there's Jimmy and Jerry right in there. And the
Speaker 1: funny thing was that's where Tom liked to go. He'd
Speaker 1: loved it, but it's a very popular restaurant anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: and Hi too much exactly, that's right. What did you
Speaker 1: think when you heard? Yeah, that's that's why I asked
Speaker 1: where were you thirty three years ago today? You know? Uh,
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised. And if I'm not mistaken, they had
Speaker 1: given Tom a few opportunities to retire, and you will
Speaker 1: call us would no better than I would. The rumor
Speaker 1: went from the players was textualm was trying to tell Tom, look,
Speaker 1: you gotta go, yes, because they're coming, and Tom was
Speaker 1: just being stubborn. The press conference that he had was
Speaker 1: really the death nail for him, because that's when he said, oh,
Speaker 1: I might be coaching well into them? What he said,
Speaker 1: is I got a three year plan? And the blood
Speaker 1: came ye, like how because he just agreed to something
Speaker 1: they hadn't understanding. And then he comes out here with
Speaker 1: the time and I think he did it. Was it
Speaker 1: January of eighty eight or January of eighty nine, I
Speaker 1: can't remember what, but he came out and said he
Speaker 1: had a three year plan. And the text was, and
Speaker 1: here's the thing, not Tex had a three year plan.
Speaker 1: Two right, yeah, And here's what they didn't know. So
Speaker 1: that that year at the super Bowl, so it had
Speaker 1: been January of eighty nine, eighty eight season. It was
Speaker 1: in Miami, if I remember, that was the Montana beat
Speaker 1: Cincinnati last minute drive. Anyway, so in the Cowboys Super
Speaker 1: Bowl box suite, Tom I was at that game, by
Speaker 1: the way, I was. I knew he was gonna I
Speaker 1: didn't watch the game until the last drive. I knew
Speaker 1: he was gonna score. I ran down because I ran
Speaker 1: down on the field. I ran down to the press
Speaker 1: room because I knew I was on deadline. I did
Speaker 1: not see Jack talking about exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what the most famous person that was
Speaker 1: at the game right right, because Joe mention him famous
Speaker 1: of the game. Just Joe saw him in the hun
Speaker 1: doing the drive and he was I was Joe Candy
Speaker 1: over there. First of all, my my, my auxiliary seat
Speaker 1: was in the stands, and there was a bunch of reporters,
Speaker 1: media guys just outwardly cheering for San Francisco, right like seriously,
Speaker 1: And I knew what was going to happen. But I
Speaker 1: was on deadline. So I ran down during the time
Speaker 1: out to get to the room so I could watch
Speaker 1: the last drive because I knew with my own eyes,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to see it on TV. I wanted
Speaker 1: to say anyway in the in the Cowboys box. So
Speaker 1: it was text, Tom gil Brandt and their guests that
Speaker 1: evening was Jimmy Johnson. So now that it was always
Speaker 1: text Text wanted him as his next him, Yes he did,
Speaker 1: but he didn't have the fields, yes that he could
Speaker 1: tell Tom. He was hoping Tom would step away, and
Speaker 1: Tom knew what he wanted him to say, right, but
Speaker 1: he was being rebellious at that time. And that's the
Speaker 1: only time. I really No, that's not true. Tom never
Speaker 1: did pay attention to the NFL rules like days off.
Speaker 1: You know, we're supposed to have sudden days off time
Speaker 1: we got out the Thousand Oaks. He said he's not
Speaker 1: gonna let a bunch of married men access to Los
Speaker 1: Angeles and Malibu, you know, on nights off. So he
Speaker 1: would limit the time that we were supposed to have.
Speaker 1: So his protocol was totally not NFL protocol, and he
Speaker 1: wasn't unashamed about it. He was Bill Parcels before. So
Speaker 1: that was one of the most rebellious guess what guess
Speaker 1: which comes? So this was so this came down on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and I saw the story was the players who were
Speaker 1: supposed to report Monday for the start of the offseason training,
Speaker 1: weight training, whatever. So yeah, in February, let me say this,
Speaker 1: and I've always thought this, I thought the eighty seventh
Speaker 1: strike was really the beginning of the end for all
Speaker 1: of us. Uh. You looked at how the red Skins
Speaker 1: handled the strike, and that's that's been made from a documentary.
Speaker 1: They actually interviewed me in the documentary when when when
Speaker 1: Tom lost the team in eighty seven, he lost the
Speaker 1: team and they seven because of the strike. Instead of
Speaker 1: handling it in the way of either we stick together
Speaker 1: or we all stay apart, he didn't handle it that way.
Speaker 1: He handed like the uh, you know, traditional football coach,
Speaker 1: my way of the highway type of thing. And that
Speaker 1: wasn't going, that wasn't helping us as a team. That's
Speaker 1: why Washington stayed together. That's why they ended up winning
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that year. After eighty seven, there was
Speaker 1: no control on the team. We were divided union versus
Speaker 1: non union. It was almost like the vaccinations. And Tom
Speaker 1: really didn't address that. He tried to ignore that because
Speaker 1: I've always thought and I guess it's no secret he
Speaker 1: was still he was really as much a coach as
Speaker 1: he was management, you understand. I've always thought that, right,
Speaker 1: and so I think that's when he lost the team.
Speaker 1: I think that's when Tex lost the team as well.
Speaker 1: And when you look at it, you remember Tex walking
Speaker 1: out there arguing with you man, come on, man, I
Speaker 1: was a Union rep. I I was the one to
Speaker 1: turn my back on him. So we had an eighty nine. Uh. Well,
Speaker 1: about the time nineteen ninety came, I'm gone, text Tom Gilm,
Speaker 1: We're all going. So I just thought that you got
Speaker 1: you had to pick a side, you know, And Danny
Speaker 1: White was gone, Randy Whiteman was gone, too tall too
Speaker 1: tall played one more year. He played that eighty nine season.
Speaker 1: That was it. Um, Yeah, a lot of the guys.
Speaker 1: I thought that. It's almost like when you look at
Speaker 1: I always look at the America's most wanting, Americans most wanted,
Speaker 1: but the American greed. All the swindlers were doing well
Speaker 1: until two thousand and nine, right because that's when we
Speaker 1: had the recession. All swindlers, you know, that's what made
Speaker 1: off and all of those guys, that's when they lost everything. Well,
Speaker 1: the strike itself, that was our divider, you know, to
Speaker 1: that that was that was the one that that tore
Speaker 1: all of us apart. And of course I had a
Speaker 1: part in it, and as well as management had a
Speaker 1: part in it. So that was one of those finding moments,
Speaker 1: not just in the NFL, but especially for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That really led to the to this date right here,
Speaker 1: how many years ago? Was it? Three years ago? Day?
Speaker 1: I think it was. That's a direct connection for me
Speaker 1: between eighty seven strike and time. So do you realize
Speaker 1: you went through the only two sales of the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys during your career? Did it? Didn't that? Because bum
Speaker 1: Bright I believe eighty three and then this one eighty nine,
Speaker 1: so did the players. That was it didn't affect us
Speaker 1: because he was he wasn't a hands on right, but
Speaker 1: what you did, what he didn't like because he didn't
Speaker 1: get along with time well. And what you saw was
Speaker 1: everything kind of diminished after that, you know, our success,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't nearly as as as counted on
Speaker 1: you know, from then on, Yeah, we just didn't do
Speaker 1: that well after that team was sold. Eighty five was
Speaker 1: I best season, right with ten and six with him,
Speaker 1: which ended the stretch of the twenty years stretch of
Speaker 1: you know, the end of that. Eighty four was the
Speaker 1: end of the playoff stretch. Eighty five was the last
Speaker 1: of the twenty straight big season. Yes because we as
Speaker 1: we remember six and two and lost to the Giants
Speaker 1: in Game nine and only won one more game in
Speaker 1: eighty six, and that ended the winning street. Vaguely remember
Speaker 1: that had the number had the number one offense in
Speaker 1: the league, tied with the Giants six and two. Six
Speaker 1: and two had already beaten him once and it was
Speaker 1: the game in New York. Remember all the penalties that
Speaker 1: drives mean pass, I mean everything worked and runoff tackle,
Speaker 1: doing set is just doing this thing like, Oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna win this game. And who won the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: that year Giants never lost another game, And who got
Speaker 1: the gatorade shower at the end of the bill parcel,
Speaker 1: And who went to disney World for the first time
Speaker 1: the first of the disney World commercials that Phil Simms
Speaker 1: still had a great Yeah, you know, the only reason
Speaker 1: I remember that is because I interviewed or I didn't
Speaker 1: remember it. I looked it up the other day because
Speaker 1: I interviewed Phil Sims the other day. He was in
Speaker 1: town for the day. I don't I didn't remember. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that the first of those disney World I'm
Speaker 1: going to disney World commercials at the end of the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl was Phil Simms that year. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that's where it started until I was doing my research
Speaker 1: to interview Sims the other day. I swear that Cowboys
Speaker 1: might have started that drive at the end, maybe at
Speaker 1: their own twenty twenty five yard line. They must have
Speaker 1: gained one hundred and forty yards, right, because they kept
Speaker 1: going back, going back, and they kept coming down, kept
Speaker 1: coming down all right, quickly we got to go to break.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell my sister story about when Jerry bought
Speaker 1: the team, and Jimmy was going to be at the
Speaker 1: page like, wait, where were you? I was working in
Speaker 1: San Antonio. I was actually working that night, and of course, uh,
Speaker 1: Jerry had wanted to tell Tom personally, and Landry was
Speaker 1: on a golf course in Austin, and so we actually
Speaker 1: had a camera crew. The word had gotten out, you know,
Speaker 1: and we had a camera crew in Austin trying to
Speaker 1: capture footage of Jerry running down Tom or getting reaction
Speaker 1: from Landry and so forth. I can't remember exactly what
Speaker 1: happened there, but then Jerry got back to sat to
Speaker 1: Dallas Valley Ranch for the press conference on Saturday night.
Speaker 1: But I was I was working it down. The stay
Speaker 1: in the bottom line on that one too was Jerry
Speaker 1: text told Tom don't leave town. Something could be going down,
Speaker 1: and he goes to Austin go play golf. And then
Speaker 1: he said, no, I'm not bitter, And yes he was bitter,
Speaker 1: and my sister yes. And my sister was bitter too, yes,
Speaker 1: because not because Jerry was buying the team, but she's
Speaker 1: and that Jimmy Johnson is gonna be our gun. She loved,
Speaker 1: she loved later because she's an OU grad and Jimmy's
Speaker 1: the os they're hiring an OSU coach said, And I said,
Speaker 1: and and I'm Oklahoma protagonist, And so I said, beating.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, huh, Miami, they don't don't watch. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be bitter. So that so that I told her,
Speaker 1: I said, well, you don't like it, now, you're really
Speaker 1: not gonna like it because he's about to have the
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league, because they're about to draft
Speaker 1: Troy Yakman who left Oklahoma. Who al, all right, So
Speaker 1: there you go. That towers our tripped down memory lane
Speaker 1: thirty three years ago today, and we're way past the break.
Speaker 1: And so we continue with more from Mickey's legal pads.
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Speaker 1: Free agency is upon us in a little over two weeks.
Speaker 1: You want to en franchise anybody? Well, how about would
Speaker 1: would Fox like to franchise Troy Aikman? How about that?
Speaker 1: That's crazy? Bro? He is he making a move? Is
Speaker 1: he doing it? I mean the word the report came
Speaker 1: out here in the last day or so, that last
Speaker 1: he's mulling an offer from ESPN. You hear the money
Speaker 1: on that. Everson seventeen and a half million dollars or
Speaker 1: something like that, Romo's at eighteen. I think, yeah, just guys,
Speaker 1: m yeah, so boy, that would sure shore up Monday
Speaker 1: night football, which needs some short although I would imagine
Speaker 1: he's got good he's got the half games. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to get good games. I don't care who's crying,
Speaker 1: he's got the half. He's got to have a say
Speaker 1: of who's the play by play guy though, because you
Speaker 1: don't want to get into the situation that Witten got
Speaker 1: himself in. Witness problem is not the play by play guy.
Speaker 1: It was the sideline reporter. That's witness problems. It was both.
Speaker 1: It was it was both. Yeah, I understand that, but
Speaker 1: but I know somebody took well advantage of that. So
Speaker 1: I think, by the way, in twenty twenty three, I
Speaker 1: think they can flex Monday in that football, So the
Speaker 1: teams that play on Monday can be flexed into that
Speaker 1: it's like a better game. Yeah, so they can flex
Speaker 1: a better game starting to twenty I think it's twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three that will. Yeah, And and I wonder what
Speaker 1: Joe Buck does. Then? Does that pulled Joe Buck along
Speaker 1: with him if he can do more, because Buck could
Speaker 1: do more baseball, right maybe with one then yeah, well
Speaker 1: you know who's happy about this? Moose? He might get
Speaker 1: some more work. Well he should, you know, maybe he will.
Speaker 1: I mean that now as you've got an elite spot open,
Speaker 1: somebody might step in before him, but he'll step into
Speaker 1: where they were. And Monday night football needs needs a boost.
Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you what, And this is just me.
Speaker 1: I don't know what everybody else did. But if it
Speaker 1: wasn't a critical game on Monday night, like I needed
Speaker 1: to watch it for play by play down by down,
Speaker 1: I turned over to the manning thing and just listen
Speaker 1: to them, right, And I don't know if that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a thing in the coming years. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: they tried to do it with the NBA All Star Game,
Speaker 1: and I didn't listen to the play by play of
Speaker 1: the NBA All Star Game. I went to the is
Speaker 1: it the TNT crew? You watch the NBA All Store Game?
Speaker 1: I watched. I watched. Did you watch the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 1: I watched. I watched the first time. It wasn't as
Speaker 1: bad as the Proo I did not watch. It was
Speaker 1: not as I watched. I watched the final quarter of
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I gave up. I gave up on
Speaker 1: the NBA All Star Game at halftime, which I wish
Speaker 1: I hadn't because I didn't see the halftime presentation of
Speaker 1: the seventy five players top seventy five in history. So
Speaker 1: I went back and watched it on YouTube. That was
Speaker 1: probably the best part. But I'm just wondering, if you know,
Speaker 1: in some of these night games, if we're just gonna
Speaker 1: sit around and list to somebody bs and not worry
Speaker 1: about the third five. There's a lot of that going
Speaker 1: on even as it is. Well, you're right, especially on ESPN.
Speaker 1: The latest stow on it. Fox Sports has started negotiations
Speaker 1: with Sean Payton about becoming its number one NFL game analyst.
Speaker 1: He would team with Joe Buck if and when Troy
Speaker 1: Aitman finalizes his exit to either Monday Night Football or
Speaker 1: Amazon's Thursday Night Football, Fox will broadcast two of the
Speaker 1: next three Super Bowls if the If Peyton succeeds, he'd
Speaker 1: immediately leaped to the top of sports broadcasting along with Akman, Romo,
Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth. So what happens with al Michaels. Well, that's
Speaker 1: the other thing. There's talk that maybe al Michaels would
Speaker 1: go to Monday to Monday Night Football because talking him
Speaker 1: going to Amazon for the Thursday Night package. Yeah, seeing
Speaker 1: that Thursday Night package is not being good. But this
Speaker 1: free agency and broadcasting is kind of fun. Did you
Speaker 1: see the thing about reports maybe that Fox would try
Speaker 1: to trade for Drew Brees to go to trade Oh
Speaker 1: because NBC so get him over coming to Fox where
Speaker 1: they're gonna give up the future draft bit I saw
Speaker 1: yesterday about trading. Right, Well, there's a you know, there's
Speaker 1: another we'll give you a couple of games. Another thing
Speaker 1: going on in free agency? Right all right? So now
Speaker 1: what's on your legal pass? So franchise tag yes, you
Speaker 1: want to. Cowboys got twenty one unrestricted free agents, and
Speaker 1: you got the franchise tag numbers there somewhat memorizing okay,
Speaker 1: and so, okay, who would you like to keep that
Speaker 1: are free agents? Cooper, he's not. And I'm with you
Speaker 1: on that ballop the wide receiver franchise and they're not
Speaker 1: set in stone right now because the it's not set
Speaker 1: until you get the final salary cap number, uh seventeen
Speaker 1: million on a franchise tag. Man, you're already paying one
Speaker 1: wide receiver twenty so and he's coming off in al
Speaker 1: The key thing with him is you just got to hope,
Speaker 1: well not hope, You got to figure out what market
Speaker 1: value is going to be on a guy coming off
Speaker 1: an ACL that probably is going to end up being
Speaker 1: on pup to start the season. So my thinking is,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the Cowboys are hoping that somebody's not
Speaker 1: going to go out and give him a three year,
Speaker 1: forty five million dollar deal because of his injury situation,
Speaker 1: that he would think, Okay, I need to come back
Speaker 1: on a prove it deal and get my market value
Speaker 1: back up to where it should man, so he can
Speaker 1: he could afford one year if you can get him
Speaker 1: for one year five six million with incentives, maybe you
Speaker 1: can sign them, but I think seventeen would probably be
Speaker 1: too much on a wide receiver. Okay, let's do it
Speaker 1: this way. Free agents. Among the twenty one unrestricted free agents,
Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neil, he would he would go into the linebacker.
Speaker 1: I'm give me the numbers. What the wow? So that
Speaker 1: we can figure this out. Did you see did you
Speaker 1: see that? Yeah? I watched serious. Here here, I'm just
Speaker 1: running down the list just so we can figure this out. Keyanuneil,
Speaker 1: Layton vander esh Or would be under the linebacker tag.
Speaker 1: So you work on what the linebacker tag number is
Speaker 1: for me, here's the ones I have, Okay, because I
Speaker 1: did it from what would affect the Cowboys. So the
Speaker 1: wide receiver franchise tag at this point is eighteen point five,
Speaker 1: So that's for Gallup. You want Gallup at the eighteen
Speaker 1: point five tag. No, I can't do that. No, tight
Speaker 1: end Dalton Schultz eleven million. Okay, let's hold that aside.
Speaker 1: We've got eleven million for Dalton Schultz right here. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: keep going. And then defensive end Randy Gregory seventeen point
Speaker 1: five at this point, but it's being projected closer to
Speaker 1: twenty million. Bam. Okay, and you've got twenty million based
Speaker 1: salary on your other defensive end right now, Jay, So
Speaker 1: those are those are really the only three? All right?
Speaker 1: Tell me what Jay run curses because he would be
Speaker 1: a safety. What's the safety, Captain? I want to say
Speaker 1: it's around thirty twelve or thirteen million, yes, and so
Speaker 1: he and it would be the thirteen I think it's
Speaker 1: thirteen million for a safety. So it's eleven million. So
Speaker 1: here are your candidates? Those are really the only yes?
Speaker 1: Right right? Okay, So those are your candidates for a
Speaker 1: franchise tag eleven million, Dalton Schultz, thirteen million, Jay Run
Speaker 1: Curse up to twenty million. Randy Gregory? So are you
Speaker 1: do you do you feel like you, uh, which one
Speaker 1: would you put the tag on? And or would you
Speaker 1: just not do a tag on anybody? I would? Here's
Speaker 1: here's what I and this is what we dismissed. Gallant
Speaker 1: tagged anyone. We haven't not tagged anyone. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: a lot of time. Okay. What what their philosophy will
Speaker 1: be is to try to negotiate a long term deal.
Speaker 1: You keep them from going into free agency by tagging them,
Speaker 1: and then you can still negotiate with them all the
Speaker 1: way to July and and and so to me, So say,
Speaker 1: let's just say Schultz, right, eleven million franchise take so
Speaker 1: he knows he's got to make eleven million dollars this
Speaker 1: year no matter what the if they tag him right. So, um,
Speaker 1: what you ask now that it was a rookie contract contract,
Speaker 1: fourth round draft there. Yeah, I'll throw another one in there.
Speaker 1: Brian Anger is the other one the putter right and
Speaker 1: that which is about five million, right, yeah, and you
Speaker 1: could kind of qualify that. But here's what you want
Speaker 1: to do is you want to structure a contract where
Speaker 1: in the first year, including the signing bonus that you
Speaker 1: get right away, plus the base salary is going to
Speaker 1: at least come to eleven million dollars, but with the
Speaker 1: signing bonus huge, you pro rade it over the length
Speaker 1: of the contract, and you push the money back over
Speaker 1: the next couple years of the deal when the salary
Speaker 1: CAP's going to go back up significantly next year because
Speaker 1: of the TV contract. Right, So I could I can
Speaker 1: structure a contract for Schultz that say he gets a
Speaker 1: two million dollars base salary this year, but I give
Speaker 1: him a fifteen million dollars signing bonus, and then it's
Speaker 1: divided by say it's a three year deal, and so
Speaker 1: it's five each year, so he costs seven million instead
Speaker 1: of eleven million. Same thing with with Randy Gregory. You
Speaker 1: got to try to get a long term deal done
Speaker 1: where the total in twenty twenty two is going to
Speaker 1: be at least what did I say it was? It's
Speaker 1: probably twenty million, so signing bonus, spread it out over
Speaker 1: five years. Now can Randy Gregory go fight? He's young,
Speaker 1: he hadn't played much, but he's twenty nine going on thirty.
Speaker 1: So that's another consideration that they have to make. And
Speaker 1: then you mentioned linebacker, so you know, here's my deal.
Speaker 1: I keep hearing this and I don't understand it. It's
Speaker 1: like cut to Marcus Lawrence, which, by the way, cutting
Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence, you will incur nineteen million dollars in
Speaker 1: dead money, either all of it this year or part
Speaker 1: this year, part next year. And then who's playing defensive end?
Speaker 1: Knowing you don't have? Yeah, why why are people don't understand?
Speaker 1: Because they all they looked at is the base salary
Speaker 1: of nineteen million and say, okay, we could save night. No,
Speaker 1: you don't save nineteen million because you already not only
Speaker 1: paid him signing bonus, you paid him restructured bonus. You
Speaker 1: gotta restructure the contract about more than just the contract.
Speaker 1: And who's gonna play defensive elically like him? Because you
Speaker 1: don't know you're gonna get Randy Gregor. See how he played,
Speaker 1: somebody played any We can have a financially structured and
Speaker 1: sound team, but we won't be with the crowd, right,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. Somebody pointed out that his stats went down
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, he only played nine games. Don't don't
Speaker 1: you know, everybody, All you gotta do is look right,
Speaker 1: don't just look at stats. Look this team's problems. One
Speaker 1: of the things this team's problem was in the games
Speaker 1: they lost was their inability to stop the run. And
Speaker 1: he was probably their best run stopper on the defensive line.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna say, okay, he knew what the play
Speaker 1: was and he just yes, came by the position and
Speaker 1: just blew everything up. So he did that a ministrategic
Speaker 1: And then I hear, well then you then you well, well,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons will be the defensive end, and I go, Okay, now,
Speaker 1: who's playing linebacker? Because Lton vander esh you may not
Speaker 1: get a chance to resign him. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: you don't even have Jalen Smith to you know, punish,
Speaker 1: So who's playing linebacker? And so you start cutting these guys,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Well, I need a first
Speaker 1: round wide receiver, I need a first round defensive Oh no,
Speaker 1: I need a linebacker back. And Alan got one first
Speaker 1: round pick, and I don't have money to go out
Speaker 1: in free agency to go out and find somebody that's
Speaker 1: really good. And oh, we do need to improve that
Speaker 1: offensive line. So that's why I hate this time of year,
Speaker 1: because people don't give out the entire facts of the
Speaker 1: whole deal. They will create money by restructuring Dack's contract.
Speaker 1: It's already planned. It's just winning they executed because they
Speaker 1: put a phony voidable year in twenty twenty six, because
Speaker 1: they knew they were going to have to restructure his
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars base salary this year. They'll go down
Speaker 1: to two three million, right, and then pay him up front.
Speaker 1: Restructure so he gets his money before he works, and
Speaker 1: spread it out over five years. That's why they put
Speaker 1: the voidable twenty twenty six year in his contracts so
Speaker 1: they could have five years to spread it out. And
Speaker 1: then when you get to that and everybody's well, now
Speaker 1: you're just pushing your money down the road. Well, you've
Speaker 1: pushed it down the road when the salary CAP's gonna
Speaker 1: go up and it'll absorb it. So there, I push
Speaker 1: everything down the road if that's the case, because I
Speaker 1: hear that the contract is going to be amazing. Another yes,
Speaker 1: CB contract, I mean they already know it is, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't go into effect this year. So those are
Speaker 1: the three guys and the other thing on the defensive end. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, my third defensive end, Dorin's Armstrong, is
Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent. So how's your depth there? Uh,
Speaker 1: not real good. It's Chauncey Gholston and Terrell Bashum. You
Speaker 1: know that doesn't get me excited. Well, when you look
Speaker 1: at all these guys, they all played well at some point.
Speaker 1: It's just when we needed them to play well, they
Speaker 1: didn't well exactly. So we can always say, well, man
Speaker 1: had a great game here. Well, they didn't have a
Speaker 1: great game when we needed them to have it. And
Speaker 1: that's almost everyone on the team. So that's what you're
Speaker 1: looking at, is the sour taste is left in everyone's
Speaker 1: mouth from from the last few games, and that that
Speaker 1: horrible ending. But then you look before that to get
Speaker 1: us to that point, to get us to what were
Speaker 1: we twelveing before twelve and five? We're talking five, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's game we went to get us to twelve and five,
Speaker 1: that's where you saw the superlatives, but we didn't continue
Speaker 1: with that as we went down down the strets. That's
Speaker 1: the problem. And the thing I printed out that they
Speaker 1: didn't get was my column for today, and it was basically,
Speaker 1: we've given the defensive pass right because of the things
Speaker 1: they improved on from last year, but in critical times
Speaker 1: the defense wasn't good enough. Like in the games they won,
Speaker 1: they averaged given up eighteen points a game. In the
Speaker 1: six games they lost, including the playoff game, they gave
Speaker 1: up twenty seven points a game. All right, let me
Speaker 1: throw this at you. We gotta get it. We don't
Speaker 1: have enough time here. I know we've got to get
Speaker 1: to a break. But all right. Chris Beam, our producer,
Speaker 1: passed along to me from SPO track the market value
Speaker 1: on some of these free agents. Okay, and that's project
Speaker 1: projected market value. So for Randy Gregory, okay, his market
Speaker 1: value as a free agent, they put in the range.
Speaker 1: They compare him with Zadarius Smith, Leonard Floyd, Preston Smith,
Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon, who are basically in the range of the
Speaker 1: average is basically a three year forty eight million dollar contract,
Speaker 1: So sixteen million a year, right, is that right? Right?
Speaker 1: Something like that? Okay, on a sixteen would be forty
Speaker 1: eight right out on the open market. Uh, let me
Speaker 1: see if I can quickly get back to let's see,
Speaker 1: I'm not paying sixteen this first year right on the cap,
Speaker 1: right right? Uh, Michael Gallup is in the market, I
Speaker 1: believe around four years, forty five millions something like that.
Speaker 1: But that's when. So what they're doing is they're just
Speaker 1: multiplying off this franchise tag. But they have examples. But
Speaker 1: you're right, they have examples of other players who have
Speaker 1: gotten I got you that deal last year, I guess, um.
Speaker 1: And then Dalton Schultz was in the four year fifty
Speaker 1: million dollar range, which is around um, what, oh, let
Speaker 1: me find it here, twelve twelve, twelve and a half, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is what the franchise was for the tight end whatever. Ye. So,
Speaker 1: and by the way, in free agency, there's like eight
Speaker 1: other tight ends out there that you would say I
Speaker 1: want that guy. Now, I'm not saying they're not going
Speaker 1: to say they don't want Dalton Scholtz. But the tight
Speaker 1: end market is stacked and even backups. Yes, you got
Speaker 1: some great backup tight ends that out there. So and
Speaker 1: we have a good backup and Jarwin, which you just
Speaker 1: gave three years twenty million to right a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. So I just got to make sure he
Speaker 1: himself healthy. That's right, That's right. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: on Gregory, Okay, how much can you depend on him
Speaker 1: from not even from an injury standpoint. I mean, his
Speaker 1: production tailed off the last half of the year, and
Speaker 1: you know there was mistakes on the field as well,
Speaker 1: you know, so like defensive holding, yeah, in critical time twice. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: mix shots on Wednesday. I heard two interviews on Wednesday
Speaker 1: that if I'm dry, I'm drafting these guys without even
Speaker 1: looking at their film one was Sam Roberts, who was
Speaker 1: named UH the Cliff Harris Small College Player of the
Speaker 1: Year Defensive Player of the Year UM Northwest Missouri State.
Speaker 1: He's a defensive end. He's six five, two ninety two.
Speaker 1: And all I did was listened to him talk Sam Roberts,
Speaker 1: Sam Roberts, and he played in the Hula Hula Bowl
Speaker 1: East West Shrine Bowl, Division two and and so that's
Speaker 1: what the awards for Division two, Division three and AIA
Speaker 1: right um, And just listening to him, I googled him.
Speaker 1: He's a Canadian rock singer. Listening to his story radio personality,
Speaker 1: also self serving, I went up. I went up to
Speaker 1: him after it was because he's from Waynesville, Missouri. And
Speaker 1: I went up to him afterwards and I said, how
Speaker 1: didn't Missouri not like at your size and speed and proximity.
Speaker 1: Why did they bring you in? And he had a
Speaker 1: really good answer, not bitter. He said, my high school
Speaker 1: was next. Basically is the enrollment is a lot of
Speaker 1: the kids from the military base. I believe it's Fort
Speaker 1: Leonard Ward is right next to it, Leonard Wood. And
Speaker 1: he said coaches don't come down to look at my
Speaker 1: high school because they figure these guys are leaving, so
Speaker 1: I'll never see him two years in a row because
Speaker 1: of their military family. Interesting. Yeah, and he was, he
Speaker 1: was really And just listening to him, I said, And
Speaker 1: Brad Sham leaned to me when we were listening to him,
Speaker 1: talk right, and he goes, that's my seventh round pick
Speaker 1: right there. And I have never seen him play it down,
Speaker 1: but just the character right the other one, uh the ticket.
Speaker 1: The next day, after the Davey O'Brien Award, did about
Speaker 1: a twenty minute interview with Bryce Young, the quarterback at Alabama.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, again, I'm not looking at him as
Speaker 1: his tape. I'd listened to him for twenty minutes and
Speaker 1: I'm going, this kid's twenty years old and he's got
Speaker 1: it figured out already. Sounds like Russell Wilson. Yes, unbelievable
Speaker 1: his answers. Somebody would have said about me a twenty
Speaker 1: years Well, I was thinking about myself, so checked her about. Yes,
Speaker 1: there a lot he had to be to the Dave
Speaker 1: O'Brien Award. I think by did you guys cover here's Monday? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was not. He was catching a flight or something.
Speaker 1: He wasn't there when we were out there. Here's what happened.
Speaker 1: He finished his workout and meeting in Tuscaloosa, So that's
Speaker 1: Eastern time, I believe. And he said he left there
Speaker 1: like at five thirty six o'clock, flew to Fort Worth,
Speaker 1: flew into here, did the did the award. He left
Speaker 1: at five thirty in the afternoon for at seven o'clock
Speaker 1: banquet here. Well, it's be eight because of the time difference, right,
Speaker 1: it's not a time differences is not each central? Okay?
Speaker 1: Well then he got here right in Well that's why
Speaker 1: you missed him, because he got here in time for
Speaker 1: the award. Alabama. Yeah, it's central. Yeah. And then then
Speaker 1: he left and went back, got to bed like at
Speaker 1: one thirty in the morning, and was up the next
Speaker 1: day for class and then his meeting. So one of
Speaker 1: the guys asked him, so, coach Saban, you won the Heisman,
Speaker 1: you won the debut of Brian Award. He's just gonna
Speaker 1: just let you out early. And he started laugh and
Speaker 1: he goes, you don't know, Coachaban, do you? He goes,
Speaker 1: not at all, not at all. And he went on
Speaker 1: to explain that I've got to take care of what
Speaker 1: I got to do to make me available to win
Speaker 1: awards like this, right, And he goes, and everybody at
Speaker 1: Alabama buys in on this. It's like, you take care
Speaker 1: of this first, and that gives us opportunity to win,
Speaker 1: and that gives us opportunity to go to awards banquets.
Speaker 1: That's assuming ads, right, And it's just amazing how he
Speaker 1: handled it. And then he went in. They asked him
Speaker 1: about the nil stuff and you know, supposedly he got
Speaker 1: at a touchdown club. Yeah, and and he and he
Speaker 1: answered it like coach Saban says, and you know, when
Speaker 1: we get out in the real world, we all don't
Speaker 1: get paid the same. And he goes, but no one
Speaker 1: talks about it. Everybody just does their job the way
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do the job, and the payoff is
Speaker 1: you're successful. And just the way he handled himself, it's
Speaker 1: like I'm drafting the guy. I want him on my team.
Speaker 1: I worked out. But when he said that about coach,
Speaker 1: you guys don't know coach Saban, right, which reminded me
Speaker 1: of when Troy Aikman was going into the Pro Football
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame the induction ceremony. Jason Garrett was his
Speaker 1: quarterback coach at Miami the Dolphins, and Jason wanted to
Speaker 1: go to the deal, but they had practice on that Saturday,
Speaker 1: and he goes, I finally worked up enough nerve to
Speaker 1: go into coach Saban's office and ask if I could go,
Speaker 1: and he goes, I was dreading it. I was just sweating.
Speaker 1: I was dreading it. And he goes in. He went
Speaker 1: in and he made this look. He said, I made
Speaker 1: this long presentation on why I need to go, and
Speaker 1: he said. Saban looked at him and he goes, Jason,
Speaker 1: do you think we can't have practiced without you on Saturday?
Speaker 1: What are you? But everybody knows him right, and they
Speaker 1: know how he's a stickler for detail and it kind
Speaker 1: of works. So you're one thing. I know, I got
Speaker 1: two draft choices already, but he's next eligible for Bryce Young? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you're proposing that the Cowboys No no for Pryce Young.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm assuming he's gonna be a first round face.
Speaker 1: You're proposing the Cowboys tank. I just said, I if
Speaker 1: I was drafting and trade this year and acquire somebody, Right, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: do you realize time many Sam Roberts still have you
Speaker 1: looked at them all? You got the football player in
Speaker 1: Northwestern Missouri. You got baseball player Sam. I was two
Speaker 1: thousand seventy seven. I was track and field results. Sam
Speaker 1: Roberts men's tennis, Robin's associate head coach and recruiter. There's
Speaker 1: some sort of singer the league statistic history, Sam Robert.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how many freaking Sam Roberts. And they're
Speaker 1: all relevant, not just you know, any type of guy.
Speaker 1: So there you go. There's another reason why you should
Speaker 1: draft him in the seventh round. He's gonna be relevant.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be mystery irrelevant. You're not gonna have
Speaker 1: the last That's right, all right, Okay, I think that
Speaker 1: we build up another show and guess what we get
Speaker 1: to talk about next week on Mick Shots Mickey Um
Speaker 1: Combine Combine. They have started on the first right, and
Speaker 1: we're about second or third and we'll be previewing it. Basically,
Speaker 1: the NFL network coverage would be Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
Speaker 1: whatever that means. I'm gonna have my big green notebook.
Speaker 1: And and here's two quick shots. Number One, we're talking
Speaker 1: about paying guys. Anthony Hitchins, Cowboys couldn't afford him, Kansas
Speaker 1: City said they could with a forty five million dollar deal,
Speaker 1: and now they can't afford the last year, so he's
Speaker 1: a free agent. You know what, he liked to come
Speaker 1: back here on a one year deal. I need a
Speaker 1: veteran linebacker, right. And then the other one I thought
Speaker 1: was funny that Wade Phillip's son West is going to
Speaker 1: Minnesota as their offensive coordinator, although the head coach is
Speaker 1: going to be the offensive coordinator. But made me think
Speaker 1: of was a twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen when everybody wanted
Speaker 1: to sign an assistant coach that worked with Sean McVay,
Speaker 1: and Wade Phillips said, hey, my son knows Sean mcvain too, right,
Speaker 1: he could be a head coach. He's now he's an
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. And all those guys there's like five of
Speaker 1: mcvay's assistants. Now that's a fast track to being a
Speaker 1: head coach. In thisalygue, you don't have even I mean,
Speaker 1: look at the offensive coordinator. San Francisco is now the
Speaker 1: head coach at Miami and he and Shanahan's running right,
Speaker 1: and O'Connell going to Minnesota head coach and McVay runs
Speaker 1: the offense right, so but Zack Taylor was it with
Speaker 1: with with McVeigh and he wound up in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowls and they had another, they had another, They had
Speaker 1: another guy ended up the University of Arizona as the
Speaker 1: head coach um and he was just an assistant. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he's had a lot of guys. Move on. But if
Speaker 1: you know Sean McVay, this is Sean McVay coaching tree.
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips is just he's just funny as hell. All right,
Speaker 1: how can we never mind? How can we got weak here?
Speaker 1: Had another five minutes, Let's go Okay, that doesn't for
Speaker 1: this edition of Mick Shawns and we'll talk at you
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