1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: listening to Fox Sports Radio. It is a Monday, A 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: patriotic Monday, USA, USA, Sorry, our neighbors to the north. 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: It's the way it had to be. We're live, it's Chicago, 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: It's the Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: be listening, listening, or watching. You know, every forty six years, 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: nothing galvanizes America, our divided country, quite like our Olympic 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: hot And you could say, well, it's patriotism, but you 14 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: know what, cross country skiing has patriotism too. There is 15 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: something about our American guys that gets people to line 16 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: up yesterday four forty five in the morning out west 17 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: at bars. Maybe it's because we're rarely favorites. It's ingrained 18 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: in the Canadian culture, Swedish culture, Lotvian culture, so we're 19 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: always underdogs and that gives us the chip on the 20 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: shoulder Americans love or maybe Improbably it's because you can 21 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: see how much it matters to our players. This isn't 22 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: the eighty team. They're paid professionals, they're rich and do 23 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: you realize in the last CBA about five years ago, 24 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: these guys fought for the right to play in the Olympics. 25 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Now they fought for it. It wasn't just a demand, 26 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: it was a stipulation, or they wouldn't sign. The CBA 27 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: are professional hockey players, and Canada's to the last CBA 28 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: fought to play in international events to grow the game. 29 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: Other sports could probably pay a little attention to that. 30 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: Hockey's rugged individualism has always been a strength. It's tough guys, 31 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,279 Speaker 1: guys always willing to defend a teammate and fight relentless, 32 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: dudes who love playing with one another. That's always been 33 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: a strength. It's the best of us, no pandering, all grit, 34 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: no selfish play allowed. Players are missing teeth, taking sticks 35 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: to the face, hammering each other into the boards, and 36 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: yet they are lining up and signing up to play 37 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: for their country, not just us, but the Canadians. What 38 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: made it even sweeter yesterday is we were mostly outplayed. 39 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: We've got to be totally honest. The second period we 40 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: were under attack. It was an onslaught by the Canadians, 41 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: out playing us, out shooting us. They had a five 42 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: on three for ninety seconds. It felt a lot longer 43 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: than that, but we survived, allowing only one goal as 44 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: they tied it. And how did we do it? The 45 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: best player on the ice was Connor Hellabach in goal, 46 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: absolutely epic. It had a Jim Craig nineteen eighty feel. 47 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: This team was far more talented, and he's a very 48 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: talented goalie, whether or not you'd heard of him, but 49 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: it was epic and we needed him. The Canadians had 50 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: forty two shots on goal. We had twenty eight, and 51 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: it felt like a majority of theirs came in the 52 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: second period, and by the time it got to overtime, 53 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: to some degree, it felt like we had survived. We 54 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: probably as they go to three on three, we probably 55 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: were going to win this thing if we could survive 56 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: the first three periods, and that's what happened. Jack Hughes, 57 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: one of the two brother ten on Team USA, scored 58 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: the winning goal and got us the goal. Were we 59 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: the better team, Well, we had the better goalie. Were 60 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: we the better team. Well we weren't overtime. Were we 61 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: the better team? Well throughout the tournament we were a 62 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: more resourceful team, slipping by both Sweden and Canada in overtime. 63 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: Will this grow the NHL doesn't hurt. I have no idea, 64 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: but it does continue to grow. The respect you have 65 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: to have for coaches and players from the junior levels 66 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: to the college levels, all the way up in our 67 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: hockey community. They fought to play in the Olympics, not 68 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: just our guys, but the Canadians as well, in a 69 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: game which could have gone either way, and probably for 70 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: a long period, felt like it would not go ours. 71 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: It's one of the brothers with a winning goal. And 72 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: here we are again forty six years later with the 73 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: Olympic gold. And here is Jack Hughes, who was just 74 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: perfect afterwards. 75 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: This is all about our country right now. I love 76 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: the USA, I love my teammates. It's unbelievable. The USAir 77 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: Hockey brotherhood is so strong and we have so much 78 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: support for next players. I'm so proud to be Americans. 79 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: Unbelievable game by Hellibuck. He was our best player tonight 80 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: by Mile Unbelievable game. Unreal game by our team. That's 81 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: just a ballsy, gutsy win. 82 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: That's American hockey right there. 83 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: That's a great Canadian team. 84 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: But we're USA. We're so proud to be Americans. Tonight 85 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: was all for the country. Spot On could not have 86 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: delivered a greater message. Way to go Team USA. Tony Granado, 87 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: a former head coach years ago, will be joining US 88 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: later this hour. So the Celtics go to Los Angeles. 89 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown had thirty two points. He's had a great 90 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: year without Jason Tatum, and they los Angeles. But what 91 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: it really was the Celtics have been missing their star 92 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: all year, Jason Tatum, and yet they've never lost their identity. 93 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: They're actually and Tatum's a very very good defender, they're 94 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: actually statistically a better defensive team without him. That's not 95 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: that they don't miss him because they're not as good offensively, 96 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: But it shows you what matters with Boston. It's the 97 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: difference between a team and a collection of players. They're 98 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: well coached, they're collaborative, they're intense. Again, they're not as 99 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: good offensively without Tatum. But why are they so good 100 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: on the road again and so good defensively? It's because 101 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: Every Celtic, regardless of athletic limitations, is giving you everything. 102 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: On both ends. They have people like Sam Hauser in 103 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: the starting lineup that unless you're a die hard Celtic 104 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: fan or NBA fan, you're not really aware of his resume. 105 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: But last night it's another great example is that they 106 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: go on the road unfriendly territory. Everybody, every Celtic both 107 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: ends is giving you everything, totally engaged, winning every fifty 108 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: to fifty ball, and the Lakers as soon as Luca 109 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: doesn't get a call, he's barking to the officials as 110 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: the Celtics scoot down the floor and score. On the 111 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: other end, one is a series of individuals who feel 112 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: a little entitled if you think I'm wrong. The Lakers 113 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Big Three has played together twelve times this year, and 114 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: yet against the four teams likely to make the playoffs, 115 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: they're zero to four, losing by an average of eighteen points. 116 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: The Celtics play very well against good teams because they 117 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: don't lose their identity. Despite moving off Porzingis or Drew 118 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: Holliday or Jason Tatum is hurt, it doesn't change their effort, 119 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't change their defense. It slightly changes their offense, 120 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown now takes a bigger role. He's arguably their 121 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: best player even when Tatum was around. But that's the difference. 122 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: The Lakers are entitled. It's a collection of individuals. At 123 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: least lebron James can appreciate Jalen Brown after he scored 124 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: thirty two in the Lakers. 125 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: Their whole championship team pretty much is Conry vamped, and 126 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: he uses motivation to keep them afloat. 127 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: They're playing great. 128 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: Basketball and it's because of him and the rest of 129 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: those guys. 130 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: He's he's taking that next step. 131 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: You know, our relationship has been, you know, pretty respectful. 132 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: Besides he said about Bronnie some of. 133 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: The other than that, yeah, but other but other than that, 134 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: other than that, you know, we've been we've been all right, 135 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: let's whole MVP things. I don't understand why his name 136 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: is not getting talked about some as well, Like nobody 137 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: gave them a shot to start the season. 138 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 4: Uh, and he's having what thirty. 139 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, your son, Yeah, just under thirty. 140 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a popularity contest. Some times I tell you. 141 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: For the record of the twenty two Laker losses, and 142 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: this is instructive nineteen by double digits. When the going 143 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: gets tough for the Celtics, they banded together. When the 144 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: going gets tough for the Lakers, you can see by 145 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: the results they fold or complain about the officials. This 146 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: is part of the reality of Luca. You do what 147 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: your star does. He's not much of a defensive player 148 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: and complains a lot and folds easily when there's turbulence. 149 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: And you saw it again yesterday. All right, Jay Mac, 150 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: the vaunted team you hate so much, the Celtics came 151 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: into town. I will say this about hockey, you know, 152 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's Canada's culture. It's interesting though Canada 153 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: has not won a Stanley Cup final since the early nineties. 154 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: It was ninety three, it was the Montreal Canadians, and 155 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: now we beat him in hockey, Olympic hockey men's and women. 156 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: So it's not I mean, along with the tariffs, it 157 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: has been a very bad had six months for our 158 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: neighbors to the north, so we should probably not poke 159 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: them in the ribs. Probably they need comforting over this time. 160 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: But it is pretty remarkable that they were slight underdogs 161 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: in this and in both the nineteen eighty Now we 162 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: were huge underdogs to the Russians. But we also beat 163 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: the Czechoslovakians badly in nineteen eighty with college guys. But 164 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Jim Craig, and you know, his remarkable story was so valuable. 165 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: And now you go, and the best player on the 166 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: ice again for us was the guy in the net. 167 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: The only reason we won that thing was the guy 168 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: in the net because it was an onslaught in the 169 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: second period. And also the Dodgers beat the Blue Jays 170 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: in the World Series. It has been a rough We 171 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: are on a heater between the Dodgers, Team USA and 172 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: the Tariffs. I almost feel guilty about all. 173 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 6: The tariffs, you know, the Supreme courts chiming in. Let's 174 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 6: leave that out of it. But Sga also the best 175 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 6: Kidian basketball player. He's down for OKC. You know he's 176 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 6: probably gonna win the MVP if he comes back. But yeah, 177 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 6: you're right, that tough. 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You 192 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: know it feels good, doesn't it when your team has 193 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: the gold medal in hockey? Doesn't it feel good? Tony 194 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: Grenado later this hour, former head coach of Team USA. 195 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: So it's an interesting time. We talk about this a 196 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: lot in football that you know, these windows with a 197 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: hard cap, they last very briefly. And you know, let's 198 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: be honest about football. Big large men who run fast 199 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: and bench press delaware tackle each other. So the windows 200 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: close very quickly because guys get hurt. So JSN, who 201 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: there's an argument he's the best receiver in football right now, 202 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: JSN or the Seahawks. He is now eligible for a 203 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: contract extension, and he'll talk about that in a second. 204 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: But you know what this is the downside to winning 205 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Everybody wants to get paid, and most 206 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: want to get paid a lot, and they want to 207 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: get paid early, and he certainly is worthy of it. 208 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: So that's why you have to take advantage of these 209 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: windows that open. So this year and next year, the 210 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: Seahawks are stacked. But it should be noted Sam Darnold's 211 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: cap pit goes from thirteen million this year to thirty 212 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: eight million next year at triples, and that's still reasonable 213 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: when you look at the quality of play from Donald 214 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: But Kenneth Walker probably not a Seahawk next year. And 215 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker was Seattle's MVP in the Super Bowl and 216 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: huge through the playoffs. He has a history of getting 217 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: banged up. He was healthy and productive through the playoffs. 218 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: So the Kansas City Chiefs, they seized the moment and 219 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: they seize the window. The Ravens didn't. The Seahawks did. 220 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: The Lions and the Bills, who he thought were Super 221 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: Bowl were the teams. Now they're suddenly over the cap 222 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: and they're going to have to move off some really 223 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: good players. So I think the Baltimore Ravens window they 224 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 1: didn't hit it. It'll be harder now Lamar's getting a 225 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: new contract, Joe Burrow making real money, cheap ownership, not 226 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: a great front office. His windows closed. The forty nine 227 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: ers to me, brock Pertty, now go look at his 228 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: cap hit. They've missed on too many draft picks. I 229 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: think their Super Bowl window is closed. So there's two 230 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: teams in the league that are on the clock, the 231 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: Bears and the Broncos. Excellent quarterbacks, both on the rookie contracts, 232 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: Excellent clever offensive coaches, well well above average rosters. They 233 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: got about two years to hit it because then Bo 234 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: Nicks and Caleb Williams are going to get paid. So again, 235 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Seattle's roster this year and next is going to be 236 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: really good and well above most teams in the league 237 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: not named Philadelphia in the Rams. But Donald Donald's contract 238 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: cap hit triples from this year to next, and Kenneth 239 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: Walker's probably going to be gone. So JSN is one 240 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: of three or four positions and players you absolutely have 241 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,119 Speaker 1: to keep. And here he is talking about a contract extension. 242 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 10: I'm really not too pressed right now to get it done. 243 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 10: I know my time is coming, and when we get 244 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 10: it done, it's going to be a great deal. I 245 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 10: believe I deserve to be the highest paid in my position, 246 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 10: and just what I get to the game in the community. 247 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 8: You know, I give him my all. 248 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 10: I would play this game for free. I love this 249 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 10: game so much. But you don't have to. 250 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: Uh no, and he won't. J Mac with the news. 251 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 9: No no, this is the headline news. 252 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 6: Check in on those Pittsburgh Steelers to start the morning. 253 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 6: Colin obviously, uh the guy got a new head coach 254 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 6: in Mike McCarthy. And now for I think, what is 255 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 6: this the third straight summer we're playing the waiting game 256 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 6: for Aaron Rodgers. No word if he's in a darkness 257 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 6: retreat currently, but Mike McCarthy does have an update on 258 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 6: what's coming out with Aaron Rodgers. 259 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 5: Just really always points back to healthy communications. So and 260 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 5: there's definitely has been that, and so you know, we'll 261 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 5: see what the future holds. You know, we're definitely preparing 262 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: for for both scenarios. 263 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: Has he told you that he's at least interested in 264 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: doing this? 265 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 5: He's going through is normal, off, He's a routine. You know, 266 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 5: he's been doing some skiing of late, which I did season. 267 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: I really knew that. 268 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever notice everybody kind of walks on eggshells. 269 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Aaron's doing what Aaron does whatever. Listen, at this point, 270 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: if you're in business with Aaron, you just got to 271 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: deal with it, get over it. He's upfront about it. 272 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm going to escape for a couple months, 273 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: and I'm and you know what. At this point in 274 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Aaron's career, A he's earned it, and B if you're 275 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: involved with him, figure it out. He's told you what 276 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: it's like marrying the rock star. In surprise, he stays 277 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: out late. You married the rock star. You're in a 278 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: relationship with a guy who's not giving you twelve months 279 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: of connectivity. I remember reading the story about Jimmy Garoppolo. 280 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: The Niners got frustrated because the off season hit and 281 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: Garoppolo disappeared, and like for three weeks they couldn't get 282 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: ahold of Jimmy Garoppolo. Well with Aaron Rodgers because of 283 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: the level of his play, some of that's also part 284 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: of who he is, so I this is where all 285 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: the He's always been authentic about it, Like, especially in 286 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: the last five years. I escape in the offseason, You're 287 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: not going to be able to get a hold of me. 288 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to costa Rica I'm going overseas last year 289 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: two years ago with the Jets, it was Egypt. He's 290 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: upfront about it, like it's your problem in management if 291 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: you don't know it going in. 292 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 6: I'm so glad the Jets cut ties with this guy. Geez. 293 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 6: Can you imagine being held hostage by a mediocre quarterback 294 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 6: in his forties who has zero mobility? And go look 295 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 6: at that final game against the Texans. You know his 296 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 6: last pass in the NFL currently was a pick six. Well, 297 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 6: I'm sure he doesn't want to go out like that. 298 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 6: I just I cannot believe the Steelers are doing this 299 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 6: to themselves. Like Mike McCarthy, Bro, you are a veteran coach. 300 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: They have Howard in tow Will Howards in camp, right, 301 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: Will Howard's their guy. They drafted him, so they've got 302 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: a quarterback and it's not, as we've said, it's not 303 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: the worst year to play Will Howard as a Steeler quarterback. 304 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: So I will say this. You can say what you 305 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: want about Aaron Rodgers, but the Jets offense got worse 306 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: when Aaron left, and the Steelers offense got better when 307 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: Aaron arrived. You don't have to love it. It wasn't 308 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: wildly dynamic, fewer penalties, fewer turnovers through to the right people. 309 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: The Steeler offense got smarter the minute Aaron Walker, what. 310 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 6: Did they get them? What did they get them? 311 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 11: Coming? 312 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 6: They got smarter? Okay, play that to the playoffs and lost. 313 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 6: They got smashed. Still no playoff wins, you know, and 314 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 6: now the coach, Mike, Mike Tomlin's gone. 315 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: I can tell you I can find eighteen teams that 316 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: would have died to have made the playoffs. 317 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, and bounce in the first round. I don't know 318 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 6: that that's worth it, man, I'd rather have a high 319 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 6: draft pick. Let's move on to the Philadelphia Eagles, another 320 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 6: team that you know, obviously there's been a tough offseason 321 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 6: start so far. They dumped their OC Kevin Patulo and 322 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 6: brought in Sean Mannion. Speaking to NFL Network, Saquon Barkley 323 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 6: talked about his experience with Mannion's offense so far. 324 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 12: For me, it's just about, you know, it's refreshing, you 325 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 12: get something new, you get to learn something new. 326 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 8: And I got to meet him. 327 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 12: I didn't really you didn't really talk about s's and 328 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 12: o's and kind of just really, you know, kept it 329 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 12: just introduction and got to me a lot of the. 330 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: New guys on offense. 331 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 12: But as a competitor, you love it. You love the 332 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 12: challenge of putting yourself in a new system and you know, 333 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 12: doing the things that you do really well and also 334 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 12: things that you. 335 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 4: Need to prove on and that they're going to challenge 336 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: us to do well. 337 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: We'll see if Sean Manion's offense works. He's young. I'm 338 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: not going to hold it against him because he's young, 339 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: because a lot of times these young guys come in. 340 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: Jesse Minter at one point was young and great, Mike 341 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: McDonald young, and Sean mcvay's young, and Manyon may be 342 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: a great coach. I have no idea. I mean listening 343 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: you played in the game. You're in your early thirties. People. 344 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: People are more experienced now at twenty three and thirty 345 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: three than they were in my generation. So to me, 346 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: it were such a mess offensively last year. Is it 347 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: realistic to think that a young offensive coordinator is going 348 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: to connect with a lot of young pro athletes and 349 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: upgrade the offense. That doesn't sound unrealistic to me. You 350 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: don't know what Sean Manion's offense is, but I listen. 351 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: To get hired by the Eagles, at some point you 352 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: had to blow somebody away in the interview process, and 353 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I imagine one of the people was Howie Roseman, and 354 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: I trust his judgment. Now they've whiffed on some and 355 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: hit on others, but I think it'll be fine. 356 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's tough to talk about the Eagles. 357 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: We don't know. 358 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 6: Nobody has any clue what his offense is going to 359 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 6: look like. His hurt's going to be under center shotgun? 360 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 6: Does he like multiple tight ends? Three one like, we 361 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 6: have no idea. Plus the aj Brown stuff looming, so 362 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm I'll remain optimistic because I like 363 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts. I know you're a hater, but that's fine. 364 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 6: It's okay. Not everybody likes everybody. Final story, Colin college basketball. 365 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 6: What a game on Saturday. I don't know if you 366 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 6: were able to catch Michigan Duke phenomenal game. 367 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: I had Michigan. 368 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 6: They ended up losing, poor shot selection, but the star 369 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 6: was Cameron Boozer. I mean, I was texting with someone 370 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 6: on the staff who's not a big fan of Boozer, clearly, 371 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 6: but the guy looked amazing when it mattered most. Colin 372 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 6: down the stretch, big time three pointer, unbelievable passing. Here's 373 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 6: the three that he hit late, big time shot. There. Listen, man, 374 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 6: I know March Madness is not everybody's cup of tea. 375 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 6: I'm just telling you, these two teams are amazing. This 376 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 6: game was incredible. I got Lendeborg twenty three years old. 377 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: Was awesome. I've heard the criticisms of Cameron Boozer, and 378 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: people say it, you know, he's kind of steaking potatoes. 379 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of flash. All I know when 380 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: I watch him, his feet and his hands for his 381 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: size have a little Chris Weber feel to me. Oh again, 382 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know, dude. He is a big 383 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: with good handles and good feet, and you NBA scouts 384 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: know a lot more than I do. But he is quick, 385 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: he gets up quick, he's long, good feet. I don't know. 386 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: I look at him and I think, if he's the 387 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: third or fourth pick in the draft, this is a 388 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: we look at this player or fourth. People are saying, one, 389 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: he's got great hands. I don't know. I think he's 390 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: a really good player. 391 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 6: So I see like a little Swiss army knife who 392 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 6: does everything really well. He's not Cooper Flag. Let's be real. 393 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 6: He is not Cooper Flag or anywhere totally. I see 394 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 6: like a Shane Battie, a really good defender, like you said, 395 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 6: moves his feet great, and he's more skilled offensively probably, 396 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 6: And that's why I like your Weber comparison a little better. 397 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 6: But this kid was special. And here's my thing. I 398 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 6: don't walk away from that thinking Duke was the better team. 399 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 6: I don't know if that's too hot of a take. 400 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 6: Michigan just settled for a bunch of bad, dumb three 401 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 6: pointers when they shouldn't have attacked the rim. 402 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: But ultimately, Illinois is better than UCLA and they went 403 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: on a road to LA and lost. I mean, it's, 404 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: you know, you college basketball at this point because you 405 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: have an influx of so many new players. You know, 406 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: they're just kind of gelling now and growing into each 407 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: other now. So I don't I mean, I do. I 408 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: think UCLA is better than I think Michigan's better than Duke. 409 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: But I think Duke's one of the three or four 410 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: teams that can win the national championship. I don't think. 411 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: I don't think everybody loves underdogs in March Madness, Stay 412 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: away from them. This sport right now is so top heavy. 413 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 5: Yeh. 414 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: There's like four really really special teams and maybe another 415 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: three to four teams after that. But I mean to me, 416 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: there's about six to eight teams max. They could play 417 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: for the national It feels like to me, the best 418 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: programs are stacked. Oh and then there's a major falloff. 419 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: At least that's what it looks like when I've watched this. 420 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 6: Year and Michigan plays Illinois this week. Illinois is excellent. 421 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 6: That was a tough loss. Sea always lots of the 422 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 6: eight teams that can win it, oh for sure. And 423 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 6: then tonight Houston Kansas both coming off losses. I know, 424 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 6: you know the Kansas situation with Darren Peterson. That's fascinating. Listen, 425 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 6: college basketball is on a heater. 426 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: Love it. Yeah, it has been for several years since 427 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: that Yukon national championship team. The sport players are staying longer. 428 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: They're taking European kids in paying form and bringing it over. 429 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: College basketball feels like it's thirty to fifty percent better 430 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: this year than five years ago. The teams have more 431 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: NBA players, more length, more Euros. The quality is shot 432 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: through the roof in the last five years. J Mack 433 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: with a news. 434 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 7: Well, that's the news. 435 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 8: And thanks for stopping that the line news. 436 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: So you know it's we talked last week. Last week's 437 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: one of the slower weeks of the year in sports. 438 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, Top of the hour, by the way. 439 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: And so now everybody's back to playing in the NBA 440 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: and March Madness around the corner, and and and now 441 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: free agency in the NFL is coming up. But it's 442 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: interesting because last week we talked a lot about the NBA, 443 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: and you know that Adam Silver wants parody. And I 444 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: would argue what baseball has right now, which is a 445 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: very strong top of the sport. It's what college basketball has. 446 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: Last year's March Madness ratings fantastic, last year's NBA ratings 447 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: not fantastic. Baseball ratings fantastic in a more distracted nation, 448 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm not for parody. Baseball Mets, Yankees, Blue Jays, Dodgers, Cubs, Astros, Braves, Phillies, 449 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: big brands, really good. Well, the NBA is the opposite. 450 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: Small market. Oklahoma City is one of seven teams in 451 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: the last what seven years with titles OKC may break 452 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: that trend and become the dynasty. But I thought that 453 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: about Denver a couple of years ago. But it's interesting 454 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: yesterday they're missing four of their best players. Sga didn't play, 455 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: Williams didn't play, Alex Caruso didn't play, AJ Mitchell didn't play. 456 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: They still beat the favorite in the East, Cleveland. And 457 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: we talked about the Seahawks and their GM. The Seahawks 458 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: and OKC have better gms than your organizations do. And 459 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: Sam Presty for OKC, he leaned in. He about four 460 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: years ago figured out where the NBA was going. And 461 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: the Knicks are giving up five picks for Michale Bridges, 462 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: who I like, and the Lakers don't have enough draft capital. 463 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: And you watch these teams like the Phoenix Suns, who 464 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: are cobbling together older players, and then you have OKAC, 465 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: which has been hoarding draft picks for years, and now 466 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: what you have is an army of talent. They're missing 467 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: four of their five best players, and they go out 468 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: and they can beat Cleveland. And you know, I tell 469 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: this to Laker fans, go watch this roster. This roster, 470 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: by the way, their bench scoring in Oklahoma City is 471 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: eighth in the league. Lakers Nicks near the bottom. It's 472 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: eighth in the league, which is remarkable because their bench 473 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: is actually now playing as starters, so their bench is 474 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: third string guys, and it's still top eight in the 475 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: league in scoring. So Oklahoma sate. They may be boring. 476 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: It's small market, nobody wants to watch, nobody wants to 477 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: talk about it. But I mean, if you start looking 478 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks and Oklahoma City, now Seattle's window is 479 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: going to close quickly. Okasees is not. They have a 480 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: boatloaded draft picks, they have cost control with their stars, 481 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: and they are insanely deep, and by hoarding all these 482 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: draft picks, they can miss four starters. It doesn't matter. 483 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: Probably as good a defensive team with what you're allowed 484 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: to do. Cleveland was complaining yesterday as they fell behind, 485 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: because I mean, everybody just says it. They're so deep, 486 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: they can play so physical. Referees don't want to call 487 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: every foul, and if they get people in foul trouble, 488 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: even with multiple injuries, they're deep enough it doesn't matter. 489 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: So they are going nowhere. Oklahoma City, Tony Garnado's around 490 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: the Corner team USA prevails listen. They went to overtime 491 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: to beat Sweden and Canada could have lost both. Part 492 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: of it's just the resourcefulness of this team, and we'll 493 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: talk about that next. We are live in Chicago, It's 494 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: the Hurt. 495 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 496 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 7: and Noone Eastern, non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 497 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 7: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 498 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: Well, we thought the perfect guest today. We put our 499 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: heads together and we said, let's see. Tony Grenado has 500 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 1: been a head coach of USA men's hockey. He's been 501 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: an assistant coach, He's been a player that was back Calgary. 502 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: He's coached professionals and then the non professionals. And then 503 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: I said this to start the show today. What's great 504 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: about hockey? Both Canadian and American players. NHL players, they 505 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: fought in their CBA to demand the right to play 506 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: international events. And you can when you turn the television 507 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: on for the last two weeks, it just flies through 508 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: the TV Canada, Sweden, USA, Latvia. It didn't matter who 509 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: you watch. These NHL guys, they fought in their CBA. 510 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 1: They wanted to be in the Olympics. They know it 511 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: grows the game. And I wish other sports in America 512 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: cared as much. Baseball should pay attention to this. And 513 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: Tony Grenado, former coach of the Colorado Avalanche, is now 514 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: joining us. First of all, is it e I would 515 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: imagine hockey players there's a rugged individualism that you can't 516 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: help but love hockey players. They're getting hit in the 517 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: face with specks, they're missing teeth. You know, it's just 518 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: the best of us. They're tough guys, they're collaborative, they're 519 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: great teammates. Was it ever hard for you, as a player, 520 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: an assistant or a head coach to get buy in 521 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: or is it just an automatic? 522 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 11: I love the way you're bragging our sport up. By 523 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 11: the way you got that passion and energy. I feel 524 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 11: like playing a hockey game right now. I'm gonna put 525 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 11: my gear on it jump on again. I'm right next 526 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 11: to ice right now. I might go out and skate 527 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 11: right now because of your enthusiasm for our game. 528 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 8: Uh. 529 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 11: You know what in general, the hockey player And I'll 530 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 11: give you one example. You know the name Chris Chellios 531 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 11: being a Blackhawk fan now Chicago. 532 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 8: Well, Kelly used to. 533 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 11: Carry his bag in the car and if he drove 534 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 11: by a hockey rink and he wasn't sure what to do. 535 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 11: He just pop in the rink, unzip his bag, and 536 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 11: go out in the ice and skate. 537 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 8: And this was while he was playing in the NHL. 538 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 11: So the passion and love that we have for our sport, 539 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 11: and I think just you know, when you're out there 540 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 11: and you learn what hockey's all about, you grow up 541 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 11: in hockey. 542 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 8: For us, there's nothing better. So I think that enthusiasm. 543 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 11: And you talked about, you know, in the lead about 544 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 11: the players demanding in the CBA that if they had 545 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 11: opportunities to play in Olympics and internationally, that they should. 546 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 8: Be able to do that. And because of that, I 547 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 8: think you said. 548 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 11: It shows the enthusiasm and their appreciation for having an 549 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 11: opportunity to play for your country. Shows and the competition 550 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 11: when they play against their former not their. 551 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 8: Former their current teammates. 552 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 11: There's lots of head to head competition in this Olympics 553 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 11: where you're going against. 554 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 8: Your line may or your defensive department, right and and 555 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 8: there was no you know, there was no let up. 556 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 8: They'll take it easy on you. 557 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 11: They mean they were they were, you know, running over 558 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 11: each other. Very similar to the way the four Nations 559 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 11: Canada US preview of the Olympics showed last year that 560 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 11: carried over into this year. 561 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 8: And I'm glad you brought that up because it was 562 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 8: a great game. 563 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 11: Obviously, as an American, I'm so proud that we were 564 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 11: able to win, But overall, it was just a tremendous 565 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 11: tournament that really showed our sport off. You know. 566 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that really struck me yesterday 567 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: was our resourcefulness. Like I said, once we went to overtime, 568 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: I thought, okay, well we survived. I thought Canada outplayed 569 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: us a second, especially in the second period. That when 570 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: when you when you're building, you know, they've always said 571 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: this that you can't just get in the NBA for 572 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: the Olympics just the twelve best scores. You've got to 573 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: get defenders and rebounders and glue guys. When you're building 574 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: this team USA, and this is not the nineteen eighty team. 575 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: These are great players. These are really elite skilled players. 576 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: The brother tandems are both great. But when you were 577 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: building the roster and building the team, is it sometimes 578 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: you take a less skilled player because he's he can 579 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: be a bit more collaborative he's a better teammate. Is 580 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: it a hard roster to construct? 581 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 8: It's extremely difficult. 582 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 11: But on the other end, and if you listen to 583 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 11: Billy Garan right up to the last second, he goes, 584 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 11: my decisions were hard, and the reason they were hard 585 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 11: is because I got to cut a lot of players 586 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 11: that deserve to be on this Olympic team. But I'm 587 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 11: going to put together a roster that I feel gives 588 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 11: us the. 589 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 8: Best chance to win. And so I was critical of 590 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 8: it in my own thinking. 591 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 11: I never said it publicly, but when the roster was constructed, 592 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 11: I thought there'd be a couple different players on that thing. 593 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 11: Cole Kawfield's coach. Cole one of my favorite players in 594 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 11: the world, and I think he's one of the best 595 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 11: players in the world, and I thought he should be 596 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 11: on that team. But listening to Billy and then watching it, 597 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 11: that team progressed and looking at some of the little 598 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 11: intricacies kind of of how and what was asked of 599 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 11: those players, those players at the bottom end of the lineup, 600 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 11: that killed penalties, that didn't play much five on five, 601 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 11: that weren't a big impact offensively. They went fifteen for 602 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 11: fifteen on the PK you know, so they didn't give 603 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 11: up the power play goal. So if you're going to 604 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 11: beat Cannon, how you're gonna beat them, You're gonna have 605 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 11: to kill a five on three, which they had to, 606 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 11: and you're going to have to find ways to win 607 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 11: games by winning on the specialty team side of things. 608 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 8: So it was constructed the right way because they won. 609 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 11: And because Billy Garan and Mike Sullivan and all the 610 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 11: other people that made the decisions to put this roster 611 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 11: together felt that the chemistry and what they created at 612 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 11: the Four Nations didn't need a lot of adjusting. They 613 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 11: made a couple tweaks here and there, but pretty much 614 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 11: they went with the base of what they had there. 615 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 11: They added Quinn Hughes to the back end who was injured, 616 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 11: and they gave Hellibuk the net and said, hey, go 617 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 11: save the go make the big say for us, and 618 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 11: he did so. I mean, it's a tremendous story from 619 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 11: the standpoint of it didn't start, you know, a few 620 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 11: weeks ago when they were trying to construct a team. 621 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 8: This started way way. 622 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 11: Long time ago as they got ready for Foreig Nations, 623 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 11: watched and kind of learned from what they was to 624 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 11: at that tournament and came into this tournament and did 625 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 11: things right. 626 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: Tony Grnado joining us for the radio audience, a former 627 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: head coach, assistant coach, and a player in these Olympics. 628 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: So it's interesting. In the NFL, they've always struggled with 629 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: what in the hell to do with overtime, And in 630 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: baseball they're like, during the regular season, let's put a 631 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: guy at second base. And in soccer they go crazy 632 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: when you go to penalty kicks, and so in hockey, okay, 633 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: let's do three on three. And John Cooper's like, I 634 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: don't love it. But my takeaway has always been in 635 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: any sport, you play regulation, and by the time you 636 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: get to an overtime session, in any sport, you can 637 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: have fatigue, you can have more injuries. I want my 638 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: overtimes to be fast. So three on three is very 639 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: good television skill gets. I mean, it's really jet fuel 640 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: to the more skilled players. John Cooper is like, well, 641 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: it's not hockey, and you could say he's a sore loser, 642 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: but I mean, I think this is something talked about 643 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: by traditionalists. Are you a fan of three on three 644 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: as a consumer? I think it's fast. I think you 645 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: can't take your eyes off it. You get more opportunities. 646 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: Do you like it? 647 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 8: I love three and three. I love three and three 648 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 8: when you win. I don't like three and three when 649 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 8: you lose. 650 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 11: So I understand Coops. You know point of the fact that, hey, 651 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 11: Stanley Cups, we don't go three and three in the playoffs. 652 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 8: We don't go three and three. 653 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 11: We play five on five, and we if we have 654 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 11: to play three or four overtime periods, we that's what 655 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 11: hockey players are. 656 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 8: They stay as long as they can until that job 657 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 8: is done. 658 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 11: And so, But from an Olympic thing, and from a 659 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 11: spectator thing, and from what the fans have asked of us, 660 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 11: you know, it's their game. 661 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 8: Let's not kid ourselves. 662 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 11: We play the game, but really the people that pay 663 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 11: to come see us and everything else, they're the one. 664 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 8: It's their game. 665 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 11: So their appreciation for three on three, the excitement that 666 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 11: three on three brings to the game, the opportunity for 667 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 11: the skill guys to really show their skill, makes it special. 668 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 8: So that was the rules that the Olympics have. 669 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 11: You can agree with them or not that three on 670 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 11: three was the right way to do it. But as 671 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 11: I know, I was on the losing end of a 672 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 11: four on four when I coached in twenty eighteen when 673 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 11: we lost to the Checks to go to the Semis 674 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 11: and we were in the quarterfinal thing, we had a 675 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 11: four on four, we got through the ten minutes and 676 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 11: then we actually went to a shootout. So we lost 677 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 11: in a shootout at the Olympics. And those were the 678 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 11: rules we knew going in, and we knew what we 679 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 11: were going to face, and unfortunately we didn't win the shootout. 680 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 8: Had we want it, you know, it would have been 681 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 8: a different story. 682 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 11: But so I respect Coop's opinion, but I also you know, 683 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 11: appreciate too what three on three brought to the fans. 684 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: Listen, Connor Hillibuck was amazing, you know, Jim Craig having 685 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: just watched the documentary on the nineteen eighty The Boys 686 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty, The Miracle Herb Brooks, Jim Craig was 687 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: obviously the flag draped over him sports illustrated and that 688 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: felt like he was. I mean, that was the Those 689 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: Russians were just stacked. We felt like we were surviving 690 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: line the line. Whereas here with Canada, I thought, you know, 691 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: they were a slight favorite, but I you know, we 692 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: stack up very well with them. But what do we know. 693 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been a good goalie in the NHL 694 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: for a long time. Were you surprised at Connor's elevated 695 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: play or you've watched him for years? You know, you're 696 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: on the NHL network, you see all these guys. Were 697 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: you shocked by his performance or is he one of 698 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 1: those guys that never quite got the credit he deserved. 699 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: And finally he's on this stage and we're seeing what 700 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: he's been doing for years, because that happens a lot 701 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: with the Olympics. 702 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 11: Yeah, Colin, you know what, he was so close to 703 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 11: win in last year at the Four Nations. 704 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 8: I lost in overtime. 705 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 11: But he's been an NHL elite goaltender, He's won the Vezda, 706 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 11: he's been the top tender. This year, his numbers were 707 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 11: down a little bit, but he is been regarded for 708 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 11: the last few years as one of the best. 709 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 8: And you know, with what he learned. 710 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 11: Last year from the Four Nations and what he did 711 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 11: to get ready for this tournament and how he performed, 712 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 11: he got to take your hats off and say he 713 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 11: is one of the best goalies that we have right 714 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 11: now in NHL. So you mentioned Jim Craig. We've been 715 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 11: fortunate for USA, and it takes great goaltenders to win. 716 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 8: It does. 717 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 11: If you look at Stanley Cup teams, you look at 718 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 11: the rosters your goaltenders. He's your most important player on 719 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 11: the ice, right, So the US has been fortunate nineteen 720 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 11: eighty we had Jim Craig nineteen ninety six when we were. 721 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 8: Able to win the World Cup. There, Mike Richter was 722 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 8: our staple back there. 723 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 11: He was between the pipes and made the big safe 724 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 11: for US in this situation. Connor Hellibuk was, so, yes, 725 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 11: goaltender is your most important position, and when your goalie 726 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 11: is able to play as well as he does, it 727 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 11: gives your team the confidence and swaggers. So yes, Canada 728 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 11: might have outplayed the US at different parts of the 729 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 11: game yesterday, but. 730 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 8: The US, you know, with what. 731 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 11: They have done the past few years, that's a flip 732 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 11: a coin game when these two teams meet. Now, it 733 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 11: used to not be like that. We used to have 734 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 11: to take a miracle to win a game. But the 735 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 11: USA Hockey has got to feel, you know, with yesterday's 736 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 11: victory that you know what, we can finally say we're 737 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 11: as good ass we don't have to say we're better. 738 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 8: We're as good as Canada and be proud of it. 739 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 8: We don't have to tiptoe around. 740 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 11: It anymore and say it's Canada's game and you know, 741 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 11: you know, we we just play it. You know, we're 742 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 11: good and we're darn good. And the guys yesterday went 743 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 11: out on the ice. They made everybody that ever played 744 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 11: for the USA Hockey UH program along the way, very 745 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 11: very proud, and it's it's a it's a it was 746 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 11: a great moment for all of us to kind of 747 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 11: I don't I don't want to say, Brad, because it's 748 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 11: not really the style of what you know, we've been 749 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 11: taught for the game. But I think we could be 750 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 11: really proud and and uh and smile about what happened yesterday. 751 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was physical from the outset. It 752 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: was what you knew. It was funny. It was the 753 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: over under. It was five and a half and I 754 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 1: had a friend in Florida. I said, take the under. 755 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: I said, this thing's going to be intense. There's no 756 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: way we're getting a wild four to three shootout. No way. 757 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: Tony Granado, an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for 758 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: what you do in joining us today. 759 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 11: I appreciate that count Thanks so it's always a pleasure 760 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 11: to get to watch your show and be part of it. 761 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Tony Granado, who has a rich 762 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: history the Colorado Avalanche, played assistant coach, head coach. It 763 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: was just fantastic sports and there is there is just 764 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: something about hockey players, you know, we talk about all 765 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: the time, the culture. I always think the culture of 766 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: football in America is better than the culture of basketball. 767 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: Too often. The culture of basketball as AAU and G 768 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: league and you get yours, it's a lot of me stuff. 769 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: Hockey's like football, it's a lot of wee stuff. You're 770 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: playing for one another, and it just it just comes 771 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: flying through the TV like hit you, like a drink, 772 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: a strong drink. It just flushes through the television to 773 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: watch these guys celebrate their teammate success. Uh and and 774 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: by the way, great job by NBC and Tarico and 775 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: the pregame and the broadcast and Kenny Albert and all 776 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: the guys. The whole thing was just classic, top shelf 777 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: way to go.