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Because 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 4: in a game where they had thirteen penalties and three turnovers, 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn made a point, according to multiple reports, to 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: yell at his team so loudly in the postgame locker 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: room that the media could hear it down the hall. 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 4: So he wanted to make sure everybody knew he was 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: really upset, and for good reason, because last night, the 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: New York Jetripolitics became the first team in the last 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: twenty seasons to start oh and four with zero force turnovers, 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: which is a big deal because, as you know, Aaron 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 4: Glenn is a defensive coach. 23 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: And number two, this is. 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: One that's really got his you know, race of eyebrows. 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn last night became the second coach in Jets 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: franchise history, or excuse me, the third coach against franchise 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: history to start his tenure as a new coach with 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: the club oh and four, joins Adam Gase and Lou 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: Holtz as the last two coaches to do that with 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 4: the Jets. He is now one loss away, coming up 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: on Sunday against the Dallas Cowboys, from becoming the first 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: OH to five rookie head coach in Jets history. 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: I got news for you. He don't need that win 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: for me to already think Aaron Glenn is the worst 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: coach in Jets football history. 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: I'm already there. What that's how long it took me? 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: And I just I told you about one thing, all 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: that show bolting and cutting a player because he fumbled 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: and all that and the Bravado and you just talked 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: about it, rob to you like screaming and carrying on 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: and all that. 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 3: Dude, your team is undisciplined. 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: Thirteen. That's in a reflection of the coach. We agree 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: with me on that turn. I mean penalties, thirteen penalties 45 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: And do you know who they lost to last night? 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: The Dolphins. They don't even get any worse than that. 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: The Jets have turned into the general hospital of the NFL. 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: When you played him, you get well, Miami was starving 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: for something, some medicine, some help, and guess what the 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Jets delivered. That's what they do. They make it easy 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: for other teams. Aaron Glenn hasn't changed anything. That bs 52 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: that they tell everybody about culture from a winning culture 53 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: in Detroit, he's gonna transfer that over to the Jets. 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Culture starts with winning. That's how you transfer a culture over. 55 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: If you don't win, I don't care about all that 56 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: other stuff. I've told you a million times. Pro sports 57 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: has a short menu wins and losses. And when they 58 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: lose to the Cowboys in New Jersey on Sunday, he'll 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: be zero and five. Remember this is the guy who 60 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: told Aaron Rodgers to hit the road right, Yeah he did. 61 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: He's the one who's walking around and talking about he's 62 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna change everything and we're not gonna tolerate this and 63 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: that and if you fumble the ball. Did they cut 64 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: anybody else from last night from the fumbles, did Justin 65 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: Fields get cut? 66 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: What was the other running back who fumbled at the 67 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: goal line? Was he cut? 68 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm just asking, well, what is it You're not tolerating 69 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: that or not tolerating that from a bottom feeder, from 70 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: some guy you used as a sacrificial lamb to try 71 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: to push some narrative that you're not having it. And 72 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: it's totally different now with you in charge. The Jets 73 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: haven't changed. Aaron Glenn hasn't changed one bit. That team 74 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: is pathetic. They could even compete. I don't care what 75 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: the score was. Did they compete in that game against 76 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: the Dolphins? It was ugly, ugly game. That's where I'm 77 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: at with Aaron Glenn. So go ahead, yell at your team, 78 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: all that bravado and all that. 79 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 3: How about coach better? 80 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: How about doing a better job at coaching your team 81 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: up so they don't have to go to Miami and 82 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: get embarrassed by a terrible Dolphins team. Because that's what 83 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: happened last night, and now you're about to make history. 84 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: I'd never considering how bad the Jets are. I can't 85 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: believe a coach hadn't been owing five actually more shocking. 86 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm shocking, and guess what, Aaron Glenn will wear that 87 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: proudly because he's earned it. 88 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 5: I cannot believe we're four games in and you're going 89 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 5: off on Aaron Glenn. Four games in, four games into 90 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 5: a team that had Aaron Rodgers and only won five 91 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 5: all of last season. Aaron Glenn is trying to develop 92 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 5: in his team. Aaron Glenn trying to find an identity 93 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 5: of the team. Aaron Glenn is trying to find out 94 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 5: who's good on his team. He just got the job 95 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: and it's his first head coaching job, and you brought 96 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 5: up the Detroit Dan Campbell, who has had one of 97 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: the best teams in the last three years. Wouldn't have 98 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 5: had this chance if they're listening to you, because they started. 99 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: Off to eighth and nine. Then they right at the ship. 100 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 5: They got their guy and obviously Jared Goff, and they've 101 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 5: been able to move forward. So my thing is, I'm 102 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: not even thinking about Aeron Glynn either way, because it's 103 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 5: four games into his first team with a bad team 104 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 5: that I had no expectations of. 105 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 3: Anyway. 106 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 5: This is the kid who always brings homes d's and 107 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 5: now I'm yelling at him because they got D minus like, 108 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 5: this is what the Jets do. So I didn't have expectations. 109 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: This isn't this isn't you coming in yelling at John Harball. 110 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 5: I can understand that more because their expectations Super Bowl 111 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: aspirations for the Ravens, right. I can understand that they're 112 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 5: a handful of other teams. You know, Jamiko Ryans, you 113 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: might say, hey man, this team is supposed to be 114 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 5: better than this, talking about Detexans. I can understand that 115 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 5: nobody had any expectations for Aaron Glynn for the dagone 116 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 5: Jets because they weren't good. They haven't been good and 117 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 5: I don't know how long. And the crazy part is 118 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 5: they actually have been competing. Game one, they lose thirty 119 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 5: four to thirty two because of the whole kick return 120 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 5: thing that messed up against the Steelers. 121 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: They could have maybe beaten Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. 122 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 5: Did they win hold Up? They got beat down by 123 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 5: the Bills. We know that that was expected. And then 124 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 5: it takes a block field goal for the Buccaneers to 125 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 5: beat them. 126 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: Otherwise they beat them. 127 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 5: They lose twenty nine, win hold Up and then they 128 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 5: only lose to a terrible. Dolphins teams are terrible. I 129 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 5: told you was the toilet Bowl. Yes night, we're watching it. 130 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 5: This was the toilet Bowl between those two teams, and 131 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: they lose by six. So aside from the Bills, he's 132 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 5: lost by a total of ten points those three games, 133 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 5: two of which he should have done. 134 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: Most games are decided, So what I'm saying, losing by 135 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: close doesn't mean anything. 136 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 5: I'm laugh with the idea that we're talking about Aaron 137 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: Glenn as if Aaron Glenn is the coach of the 138 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 5: Chiefs or the Ravens or the Lionan. 139 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: I give you an example, and this is why your 140 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: argument is lame. And the Jets rob g Nathaniel Hackett 141 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: with Denver. Do we not call it after week one 142 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: that this guy wasn't head coach? Week one, Week one 143 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: we knew the Danuel can't hack it, couldn't coach, and 144 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: he wound up going four and eleven and was dismissed. 145 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: You could use the same argument, how can you fire 146 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: guys his first year? Oh blah blah blah. No, this is. 147 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: The bravado that Aaron Glenn brought about. 148 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: I'm changing the culture here. 149 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: He didn't come in and tell you, hey, give me 150 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: three years and see me in three years. 151 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: We're gonna lose that. There ain't no way. That's not 152 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: nobody guy that I believe. I give him time. 153 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: Thirteen penalties is a reflection of your coaching. 154 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: It is. 155 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 5: It is you can game the stingo and two they 156 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 5: can literally miss. Your record is and a kickoff return 157 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: that all day and then your he got rid of 158 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 5: a middling a guy who barely made the team. It 159 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 5: was an act offseason. It was an act that you know, 160 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 5: how many guys get let go now barely are practiced, 161 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 5: guys who barely special teamers. 162 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: That happens the first three four weeks. 163 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: And everyone and it came back now getting your blood 164 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: press and worked up over Aaron Glenn and the Jets. 165 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 5: Man of you, I want you to go back to 166 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 5: your John Harball tape. 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So by all accounts, this should 185 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: be a walkthrough series by anybody who covers the league 186 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: or who sets the odds. They're saying, hey, Dodgers should 187 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: roll in a romp. Not only do they have the 188 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: reigning MVP and soon to be back to back MVP 189 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 4: and a time top of the lineup, they got postseason 190 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: performers up and down that roster. There's any concern with 191 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: the Dodgers, it's with the bullpen, right But entering this postseason, Blake, Snell, Yamamoto, 192 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 4: and Otani have collective eras in the on September of 193 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: two point twenty five, zero point six to seven, zero 194 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: point zero zero. And if you're worried about the bullpen, 195 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: don't worry about it, because they're bringing starters Tyler Glass now, 196 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 4: Roki Sasaki and Machian in there. So by all accounts, 197 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 4: you're looking at the fully formed Avengers Dodgers ready to 198 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: defend their World Series championship, and for whatever reason, people 199 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: are saying, hey, if they don't get it done, this 200 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: season is a bust, even though we all know that 201 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: baseball is a crapshoot in the playoffs. And I seem 202 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 4: to think that you guys agree with the naysayers. 203 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: I do think that the Dodgers, on paper, right, it 204 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: has been an uneven season. 205 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: We've talked about it. On paper, they're still the best team. 206 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: They spend what a billion dollars in the offseason, and 207 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm obviously being facetious but barely, but to get my point, 208 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: they spend a lot of money. On paper, people thought 209 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: this was gonna break the twenty five year right, It's 210 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: been twenty five years right since the Yankees won back 211 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: to back, and that the Dodgers would have the team 212 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: to be able to do it they win the World 213 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Series last year, but there have been, you know, issues 214 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: going forward. All you got to do is get it 215 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: together for the next three weeks, three and a half weeks, 216 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: and you could win a championship if players play the 217 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: way that they're capable of playing. And that's a big if, 218 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: you know, because all year there's been some issues in 219 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: the Dodgers that made moves, as Rob g just chronicled, 220 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, with putting other people in the bullpen, because 221 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: the bullpen was basically. 222 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 3: A gas can. It was so bad. 223 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: But I will say this, if anybody was supposed to repeat, 224 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: it's this Dodger team, and if they don't win the 225 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: World it will be a failure. This was a team 226 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: coming in and I think you would agree with me 227 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: that people thought had every chance to win again. 228 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 5: Fair Yeah, I mean people actually some people thought it 229 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 5: wasn't fair because you already are World Series shamps. Then 230 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 5: you go and get a Blakes now right then you 231 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 5: already you know, you're bringing back some guys who've helped 232 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 5: you before you your second year into some other guys 233 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: who come on the team. I mean, people were looked 234 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 5: at this as remember we were literally talking is it fair. 235 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 5: Who do we have We had other Yankees talking about it. 236 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: They ain't. 237 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: I don't like it. It's not fair what the Dodgers 238 00:12:59,040 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: are doing. 239 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 5: So yeah, a lot of people have been complaining from owners, GMS, 240 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 5: and let alone fans across the conversation. Are the Dodgers 241 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 5: now the new evil Empire? So I believe I'm with 242 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 5: you that the expectations were world Series title or bus 243 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 5: and I believe currently as we sit here less than 244 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 5: an hour away from first pitch, it's still World Series 245 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: or bus. 246 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 247 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Like what when you have gone won your division 248 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 5: twelve out of thirteen years, you've been to what three 249 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 5: four World Series over the last six seven eight years? 250 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: You won a couple of them. 251 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 5: I mean you got I believe, the best player in 252 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 5: baseball and you got some of the best pitchers. Like, 253 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 5: this is exactly where you're supposed to be. There's no 254 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: shock when we say the Kansas City Chiefs believe they're 255 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 5: supposed to win championship. This is where they've built themselves 256 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 5: up to be. There's no doubt that the Warriors, when 257 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 5: they were on their run, they thought, we're supposed to 258 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 5: win championships. This is what we do when Tiger Woods 259 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: was rolling, I'm winning majors, Serena Williams. 260 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll better win a major. I'm not coming here 261 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: to win a few matches. 262 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 5: And so that's where the Dodgers have put themselves in 263 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 5: a position where to win a World card, a wild 264 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 5: card series and then go home. It's unacceptable. Just to 265 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 5: sneak into the postseason unacceptable. And that's where they are now. 266 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 5: They're at the point where just winning a division doesn't count, 267 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 5: just being happy to be in the postseason doesn't count. 268 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 5: It's all about can we run off? Can we do 269 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 5: some Yankee type stuff? 270 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: The late right with Derek Jeter and that team when 271 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: they won three three out of four, you know what 272 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and they put together a dynasty. 273 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: They were a dynasty. 274 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: I always say it's either three in a row or 275 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: three out of four kind of put you in that. 276 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: And you look at the Dodgers roster and the players 277 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: they have, and you said, dude, they got the makings 278 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: of this. If anybody's going to be able to come 279 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: back and win another championship, it is the Dodgers. And 280 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: I think them more than any other team, not even 281 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: the Yankees. Remember, people forget that they lost their race. 282 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, karat Cole and he's still about Game five last year. 283 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: You know, right, And it didn't cover first base, Aaron 284 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: Judge dropped the ball and in center field that they 285 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: could have easily forced the game six, and then the 286 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: Dodgers are out of pitching. 287 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: We talk about all the time. That could have been 288 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: something else happened there. 289 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a big play, but the Dodgers are 290 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: in a class by themselves. 291 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: And I do believe that. I do believe. 292 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: That that not winning will be a disappointment all the 293 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: way around, and people will say, what happened? 294 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: What went wrong? Why was this team? 295 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: You know, Mookie struggled for four months, was just a 296 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: shell of himself. Has bounced back, you know with that 297 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: mazing September. Yeah, like like so, so that's a good sign. 298 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: And old TONI had you know, big numbers, not the 299 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: numbers that he had a year ago. We had one 300 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty RBIs and he batted over three hundred 301 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: O Tony batted two eighty four or five or something 302 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: like that. Still had fifty five home runs. It's a 303 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: great season and he's going to win the National League 304 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: MVP and all that. But anything less than that. I 305 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: think the Dodgers or the team that will look back 306 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: and go like, we blew an opportunity. Why weren't we 307 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: good enough? And uh, and they have almost not have 308 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: to win, but they. 309 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 5: Need to No, no, no, they have to win because 310 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 5: that's what they that's what they've built themselves. If you 311 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 5: couldn't get certain players right, ah, we tried to get 312 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 5: so and so we could. Oh we were in the 313 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 5: old tiny so we got everybody right, man, Blake Snell 314 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: will be a great addition to our staff, but all 315 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 5: we missed them. 316 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: You're getting the players. 317 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 5: You still have some young guys to match with the veterans, 318 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 5: and then you got guys still just dead smack in 319 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 5: the middle of their prime. You have an amazing home 320 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 5: field advantage, Like there's you can go down the line 321 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 5: of reasons why you know, you'd feel good about situations 322 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 5: for the doll Like, man, if we if we can 323 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 5: get series in LA, we're good. We got obviously a 324 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 5: manager who's been here at this point for such a 325 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 5: long time, like all the things are in favor and 326 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 5: Rob alluded to something. The last month their starters started 327 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 5: getting healthy and started wheeling and dealing you got Otani going, oh, 328 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 5: he's gonna go about an inning, he's gonna go two inns, 329 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 5: hes gonna go three and d he won't go before 330 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 5: wait a minute, he went five, Okay, went six inn's. 331 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: You started to see the build up. Blake Snell comes back, 332 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 5: Glass now comes back. I mean, tull you even had 333 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 5: Kershaw out there willing and Diler who didn't even make 334 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 5: the roster. That's how confident you feel, said Kurse. We'll 335 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 5: get back to you a little bit later on. So yeah, 336 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 5: they're built to win this year, despite it all, despite 337 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 5: having some ups and downs and ebbs and flows throughout 338 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 5: the season. So absolutely they'll be disappointed if they don't win. 339 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 5: And to your point earlier, you and I've talked about this, 340 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 5: somebody's got to repeat, and I'm sure they're looking at 341 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 5: themselves in the mirror saying why not us? 342 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: If anybody, it should be because of what they've able 343 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: to do, their resources where they are, they have a 344 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: ownership that's aggressive. We're trying to win now, we're not 345 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: talking about they're not sitting back. They could have easily 346 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: won and said hey we wont go before we got two, 347 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: and we got two in the last five years, right exactly. 348 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: And this one wasn't in a coach over year, right, 349 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: this was a legit full season and we beat the Yankees, 350 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: and and we should be good and we should be happy. 351 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 3: I mean they could be, but they didn't do that. 352 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, I think they and they know that. 353 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 5: And everybody who kick Hernandez comes back, God, Blake Snell, 354 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 5: all these guys who sign on, you know what you're 355 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 5: getting into, Like, you're not coming here, like you said, 356 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 5: just to have some fun, compete, maybe win eighty games. 357 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 5: So you're coming here knowing the expectations are world series, 358 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 5: not just expectation to make the playoffs. 359 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: It's world series. Nice player there about Judge? Did he 360 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: drop it? No? He caught it? Okay, it wasn't a fifth. 361 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 5: Boys having game five, fifth in and they can't even 362 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 5: bring you let them out, get ready to say no, 363 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 5: you know, swing it on. 364 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: You YouTube saw them for the radio audience. Judge makes 365 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 4: a nice catch, right, So as Calvin is talking, Rob 366 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 4: immediately turned looking at him like he saw that catch, right, 367 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 4: And then he tries to play it off like did 368 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 4: he catch I. 369 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: Was gonna stall him out? He acted like he didn't 370 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: see it. 371 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 5: What did he catch You got two New York Yankee 372 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 5: TVs on here? 373 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: No, no, no, the cameras in the way, I couldn't. Okay, 374 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: did he catch it? You go good Will? That was 375 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: just Cody. Yeah, sorry, no, it was just a thought. 376 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: You know what, you guys killed me. 377 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 378 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 379 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 380 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: listen live. 381 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 4: Yannis I did the GOOPO missed Bucks Media Day because 382 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: he had the rona. He was doing it via Zoom's 383 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: ward off sound of it, but he was asked by reporters, hey, 384 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: we heard it was while reported by several people, including 385 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 4: ESPN Shaan Sharanya, that you were considering demanding a trade 386 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: out of Milwaukee, and Yannis, being the stand up guy 387 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 4: that he. 388 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: Is, confirmed it. 389 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: Here's what he said quote, of course, yes, every summer, 390 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: their shoot through every report. I want to be on 391 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 4: a team that gives me a chance to win a championship. 392 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: It's at a service to the game to not want it 393 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 4: to beat at a high level to win your season. 394 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 3: In April. 395 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 4: It's not the first time I had the same thoughts 396 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: last year, two years ago, five years ago. It's never 397 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 4: gonna change. I want to be among the best, complete 398 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: with the best, and win another championship. 399 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: Period. 400 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 5: This is where we start to get into the pantheons 401 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 5: and greats, right, This is where we start to have 402 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 5: conversations of the pecking order or your top ten, your 403 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 5: top fifteen, and your top twenty. And for me, I've 404 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 5: said this, You and I have talked about it last season, 405 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 5: during the NBA postseason, even just during the season. I 406 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: expect more out of Giannis Antetokounmpo, the Greek freak. I 407 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: want more out of him. He is a phenomenal player. 408 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 5: He's an MVP candidate every year. He had an incredible 409 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 5: season again last year, putting up MVP type numbers. He 410 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 5: is a nine time All Star, nine time All NBA. 411 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 5: This is another great one, five time All Defensive, two 412 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 5: time MVP, All Star, MVP, top seventy five player all time, 413 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 5: and then we go finals MVP. 414 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 3: We can go on and on and on. 415 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 5: And this is why my expectations are higher for him. 416 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 5: This is why I want him in the Leastern Conference 417 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 5: is what we call it. Why hasn't he been to 418 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 5: the finals a couple more time. I'm not saying he 419 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 5: has have three four rings already. He still has another 420 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 5: six seven years of a really good career. But I'm 421 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 5: saying he should be in the finals a couple more times. 422 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 5: He should be guys that are competing for finals instead 423 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 5: of us coming into the season not even thinking about 424 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 5: the Bucks. And there's too many seasons where we don't 425 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 5: think about the Bucks for him to be on the team. 426 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 5: And what's the point of being just that great? We're 427 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 5: you're an MVP candidate in the Leastern Conference where you 428 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 5: have a chance. There's no Bohemoth in the Eastern Conference, right, 429 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 5: He's not dealing with the Warriors of the West where 430 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 5: I can't get past him. So I think if he 431 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 5: was sitting right here in his third chair, he would 432 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 5: be like, Yo, Dub, I'm with you. I should be 433 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 5: in the finals more often. I should have maybe one 434 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 5: more ring, And I want him to be competing for 435 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 5: that year in year out instead of coming to the 436 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 5: year and you're like, eh, that maybe be a three 437 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 5: seed for like, you don't have a high have enough expectation, 438 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 5: And it doesn't make any sense because he didn't come 439 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 5: in highly touted. We didn't really know him like that. 440 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 5: But now you look at a guy like Yo Kich, 441 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 5: same thing, Yo Kich. All right, you're an MVP candidate 442 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 5: every year. I'm expecting you to be in the finals. 443 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 5: More because again, when we typically get that caliber player 444 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 5: in the NBA, it's usually followed with some type of dominance. Right, 445 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 5: you get a bunch of MVPs with Tim Duncany stays 446 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 5: relevantly in the finals obviously to win a five. Lebron 447 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 5: stayed in the finals. Steph stayed in the finals. Kd 448 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 5: once he got with Doors stayed in the finals. Don't 449 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 5: even go back in the day Isaanah Thomas in the 450 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 5: Birds and Magic. 451 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: So he's too good to if. 452 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 5: Another five, six, seven years career ends another MVP or 453 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 5: two and he walked away with one finals appearance, one 454 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 5: final win, that would be disappointing for the greatness. I 455 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 5: mean his his reference page is littered with credentials. Litter 456 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 5: you know how you click on the more, it's just 457 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: kicked falling down with credentials. And I think it's okay 458 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 5: and fair to have a higher expectation for the caliber 459 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 5: player that he is actually in the conference where there's 460 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 5: no dominance there. It's not like he's playing twenty twelve 461 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: through eighteen. 462 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: Lebron, I couldnot disagree with you more, and I think 463 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: I'll just give you a list. Carl Malone, Charles Barkley, 464 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: John Stockton, Patrick Malone, Patrick Ewing, Reggie Miller, Alan Iverson, 465 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: Elgin Beale or Steve Nash, Chris Paul. What all those 466 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: great players have in common? They never won a championship, So. 467 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: Jannis don't know it. So Jannis is. 468 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: A made man in the NBA, and he's already won 469 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: a couple of MVPs. He won a championship in Milwaukee 470 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: with nobody, with nobody win out another top fifty player. 471 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he doesn't want to win, but 472 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: he did the unthinkable. 473 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: Everybody was like, you're crazy. Why would you stay in Milwaukee. 474 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: I heard all you'll never win, go to the Miami Heat. 475 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 3: You remember that. 476 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: He could have asked out, go to Miami, go play 477 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: with Lebron, go do something else. It was all out there, 478 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: and he said, no, I'm not with all that. I'm 479 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: not working out with these guys. I'm not doing any 480 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: of that. I'm my own dog. And he won his 481 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: own championship. That championship there, to me, means so much 482 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: more than if you go team up with other people. 483 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: This is one that he earned. 484 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: He has mad respect from people because he was able 485 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: to put it together, able to win a championship in 486 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: a place that normally doesn't win, that normally doesn't win. 487 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: And that is what you want is to be able 488 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: to win. And he's done all that. Now if he 489 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: gets another one, that would be great. But to look 490 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: down on Giannis's career in Milwaukee and say he didn't 491 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: accomplish enough, please, I just gave you some of these 492 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: great play Chris Paul has been on a a gazillion 493 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: team with a gazillion guys and he can't win. 494 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: It ain't that easy to win? 495 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: Ask Lebrono's played twenty four twenty three years and got 496 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: four championships, And you're gonna look at Giannis and question like, oh, 497 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: he didn't know his career it wasn't that great because 498 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: he only won one time? Are you kidding me? I 499 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: think we are totally lost sight. Ask how hard it 500 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: is to win because a couple of people. 501 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: Have won a lot, and and and and. 502 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: You think everybody should be Tom Brady or everybody should 503 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: be Michael Jordan. 504 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: Those are those are not the guys that are normal. 505 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: Most people don't get to win, or if they win, 506 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: they win one time, and they're very fortunate for that. 507 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 5: This is where we disagree. If you're talking baseball or football, 508 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 5: I'd give you that more than the NBA. In the NBA, 509 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 5: when you're that guy and you've kind of locked in, 510 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 5: you have a chance to compete for a very long 511 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 5: time because there's just five men on the court. And 512 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 5: if you're that dominant, especially a guy like him, on 513 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 5: both ends of the floor, you typically do I mean, 514 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 5: look at Kawhi Leonard. He obviously was with the Sports 515 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 5: Spurs organization, but then he goes and wins with Toronto 516 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 5: and then he's competitive at least with the Clippers when 517 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 5: he's healthy and when he's there, when he shows up. 518 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 5: And my point is, Giannis is not even near the finals. 519 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 5: It's let alone win another ring. He's not even in 520 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 5: the finals competing. He's not losing heartbreakers in game sevens 521 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 5: and man, I had a chance if I'm Charles Barker 522 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 5: that just lost to Jordan. He's not even doing that. 523 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: And that's the part to me. For me, that is 524 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 5: more disappointing. Again, I don't expect him to walk around 525 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 5: and do the Michael Jordan with the six rings picture 526 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: on a Sports Illustrated or whatever it was. But Daggett, 527 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 5: you're too good, too talented, year in year out to 528 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 5: not even be a thing, to not even be competing. 529 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 5: And that's all I'm saying I did, is I expect 530 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 5: him to be competing and noting on the door he 531 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 5: ain't even in the room. 532 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just think that people are way too 533 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: thinking that you're supposed to win or be in the 534 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: finals every year. 535 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: It just doesn't work like that. And that's why I 536 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: gave you. 537 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: I just gave you fifteen names of great, great players 538 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: who didn't get a chance to win a championship. And 539 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna look at Charles Barkley and say he wasn't 540 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: a great player, or Patrick Ewing a guy I covered, 541 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: or Steve Nash who won two MVPs or whatever. 542 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: And Giannis has done all that. 543 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm so impressed by is he did 544 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: win two MVPs. He did win a championship on his own, 545 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: like like that championship for a lot of people would 546 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: be better than going to tack on and be on 547 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: some other team and you're not the main guy. Yannis 548 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: won that in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, of all places. 549 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 5: What you want that man to do? Robert tired, Yo, 550 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 5: I gotta ring him out. No, he wants to say 551 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 5: that he's just so good to be out. 552 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 553 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: He is one in seven. This is how many in 554 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 5: the last two playoffs he has one win. No MVP 555 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 5: candidates should be walking around with here with one win. 556 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 5: Lebron got swept. Oh no, they won one game. I'm 557 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 5: sorry in the first round, right, we'll luka. Lebron is 558 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 5: sixty seven years old. All right, he's still I'm not 559 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 5: even sure he's not seventy two. And that's a horrible los, 560 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 5: especially when we got Luca. But my point is Giannis 561 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 5: is too good to have only one game in the 562 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: last two postseasons. That don't make any sense. He's too dominant. 563 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 5: And that's all I'm saying. When you're when you're typically 564 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 5: that guy, and then once you've ascended to that height 565 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 5: and and by the way, i'ma be having the same 566 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 5: conversation about yo kids here. This is what it comes 567 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 5: with when you're this good, that's great. It's not a 568 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 5: question of are you an all time great? We know 569 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 5: that at all time great, we know that, it's where 570 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 5: are you when it comes to starting to get to 571 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 5: chances and knocking on the door of championships. Nobody asks 572 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 5: you to be Jordan six? And oh, but that's all 573 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 5: I'm saying is you mentioned Karmelon. Karmeloon got to a couple. 574 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 5: He's sitting there like, dang it one for Jordan. I 575 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 5: might have a couple. That's all I'm saying.