WEBVTT - Love Conquers All (w/ Vanessa Bell Calloway) 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:06.080 Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. You are tuned into 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:10.800 the Vitamin D Podcast and I wa I'm Dawn Day 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:14.600 and I'm the host. Um. Now, if this is your 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:19.119 first time tuning in, welcome, Thank you for deciding to 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.920 live your life on purpose and for purpose. And also 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.040 I'm gonna tell you now, Vitamin D is a pun 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.320 off of my name. You know how you get vitamin 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:29.640 D from the sun, right, Well, my name is Dawn. 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.879 So I'm here to shed light into your life. You know, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.680 one of the principles that you know I talk about 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.320 on each episode on Vitamin D It's all about how 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:43.360 you are your greatest asset. Catch it. You are your 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.120 greatest asset. So all that means is just like a 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.840 checking or any type of account that you have. You 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.840 put things in, you take things out, you take allocation 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.600 of your life, and you see what you have, uh 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:56.920 and the value of it. Well, I'm here to tell 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:01.040 you that your life is your greatest asset. You are 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.440 your greatest asset because everything is an extension of you. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.520 So with Vitamin D, that's what it's about and understanding 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.160 how you are your greatest asset. It's all about shedding 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.880 light and and this is the thing we think of life. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.119 We give joy and happiness. Yes, it is all that 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.920 and more. But the key to realize and what we 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.760 talk about shedding lights is that it's going to unveil 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.399 the good and the not so good. I usually say 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.400 the bad, but I should just say that not so 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.360 good or the other side. Because when you talk about 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.600 living your best life on purpose and for a purpose, 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:34.959 you need to see a three sixty of you angle. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.440 I mean, think about it. Could you imagine moving through 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.399 life and only be able to see what's in front 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.800 of you while that's the vision in the direction you're going, 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.759 There's a definitely a benefit having peripheral vision. There's definitely 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.120 a benefit to do a pivot, to do a turnaround. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.040 And that's what we gotta do. We gotta make sure 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.280 we see our lives through all angles. So this is 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.040 your first time, Thank you, welcome. This is what it's 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.400 about because I want you to be great and I 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.720 want you to to to live every day your life excited. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.960 Huh So if you can't tell, I'm so excited, I 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:12.120 am uber excited, especially about this episode. Um, I have 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.760 the one and the only Mrs Vanessa Bell Callaway and 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:20.359 she's joining on this episode to talk about her role 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:24.840 as Lady Ella and bounced TV's hit series Saints and Sentators. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:29.919 It's on season five, and we delve into a few things. 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.320 If you can't tell already this this series has to 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.360 be sucked in. You know, I talked to both of 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.720 her kids on the show that was Jasmine Berg. You know, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.520 she portrays the character of doctor um Christie Johnson, and 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.600 then I had talked to Trade Cheney, who portrays the 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:49.720 role as Kendrack. Okay, it's so much. Okay, I'd like 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.440 to refer to Saints and Senators as um or as 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.520 they have referred to it as Jasinburg as a black 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.919 soap opera. So that's just a soap opera with a 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.200 little bit more f life. You're gonna be sick none 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.560 as your seats. You're gonna be sucking on your fingers. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.080 So anyway, I talked to Vanessa Belle Callaway about her 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.079 character as Lady Ella, and one of the things that 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.520 I found was interesting because you're on the fence as 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.480 to whether or not she's a good or bad person, 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.040 and what she stood out and what's something that she 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.919 said is that hurt people hurt people, and we unpack 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:25.200 on who Lady Ella is, what we can really see 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:26.880 and what we can expect to see, what's going to 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:32.200 happen in season five. And then also, you know Mrs Callaway, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.600 she's been married for over thirty plus years and the 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.720 thing that's so amazing is that she unveils and unpacks 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.400 a few things when it comes down to maintaining a 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:46.360 happy and healthy marriage. Okay, how you can miss out 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:50.400 on your potential life partner if you get caught up 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:57.400 sweating the small stuff? Right, always gets real. But when 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.920 I walked away, more than anything that stood up to me, 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.040 it's just the importance of love. It's what we all want. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:08.560 And um, there's nothing but loving inspiration that's coming from 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.440 this woman. So let me hush my mouth buckle up, 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.440 because now it's time to dive in for your dose 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:28.040 a vitamin day, right with me and get excited Midwestern house. Hello, 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:33.280 Hello there, Mrs Callaway. How are you? I'm well? Thank you? 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:37.119 How are you? I'm doing amazing? I'm talking to you, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.839 aren't you sweet? So? How are you doing today? I 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.560 am doing great, the beautiful day here in Atlanta. I'm 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.200 so excited to have you now I talked to two 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.520 of your kids on the show. I've talked to uh 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:56.040 Dr Christie A K A. Jasmine and Kendrick A K. Trey. Yeah, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:02.520 and um, I'm trying to figure do I feel about 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:07.840 Lady Ella. So we're gonna the Saints and Sinners is 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:12.240 definitely like a drama that has me wound up from 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.120 left to right, front to back. But first, before I 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.600 make my judgment and before I dive in, tell me 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.360 about your character Lady Ella. Well, you know, she's involved 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.600 a great deal over the years. When he first met 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:32.480 Lady Ella, she was married to Master Johnson and he died, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.880 so she became a widow and kind of took over 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:37.800 the church. You know, the church has always been a 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.200 soft spot for her because it was, you know, her 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.320 husband's church. She has a soft spot. Yeah, she got 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:48.720 she got a couple, couple and her father was a pastor. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.160 And then of course when her mother was introduced in 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.400 season two, that was a whole dynamic where you saw her. 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.600 You know, her mother was the only person who kind 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.080 of can make her feel like a little girl, make 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:03.760 her feel in sufficient and insignificant, you know, and un unaccomplished. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:05.760 You know, her mother could just look at her and 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.680 it just melts her. So you know, of course, what 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.560 we see Lenel in the world, her world around citeer, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:18.240 she's she bullies people. Basically, she's a bully. Um. She's mean. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:23.000 She's a very self centered, self serving. She's hurt, sharts people, 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:27.480 and she doesn't care. So her mother and her you know, now, 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:32.160 they're kinda divide it and they fight a lot. So 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.719 she takes a lot, but she's very protecting her children. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.960 Now when it comes when it comes to her babies, 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.520 don't mess with her baby, she will cut you. So 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.240 she's evolved a lot, you know. But she's you know, 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:48.200 hurt people, hurt people, you know. Um, and this season 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:52.839 you're gonna really see, uh, she gotta meets her match. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.479 She kind of gets she gets hurt, hurt, she puts 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.720 out to other people. You're like, you know, don't put 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.000 off with same date, right, Hello, you keep messing with 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.839 that fire, You're gonna get burned, right And she gets burned. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.719 But you you learned a lot about a lady bird 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:14.120 and her in the relationship, and you understand more about them. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.600 I'll just leave it at that. Can't spoiler Lerner can't 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.520 take you what happens. And that's what I saw because 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.520 you know, a minute there, you know, you want to 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.440 look at Lady Ellen. It's like, well, where are your heart? 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.240 Where's your heart? But it's the very same thing. And 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.480 you know, and that's what I like to talk about 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.600 on the Vitamin D podcast because you know it's a 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.160 pun off of my name. You get vitamin D from 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.520 the sun. So I'm here to shed light into your life. 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.800 And so not only are we shud a light what's 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.440 going on with saints and centators, but also what's going 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.960 on with Lady Ella. And you made something that was 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.920 so poignant. You said, hurt people, hurt people. And what 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.840 I've realized and what I saw with this bridge and 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.880 you know I had to tap into a Donnie mcclarkin 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.680 for this one. You know, a saint ain't nothing but 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.240 a center who fell down and got back up. And 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.640 so just the I supposed of just saints and sent us. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.920 I don't see these as bad people, no, No, I 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.840 mean they're just regular people trying, you know, trying to 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.800 make it. And what I love about the show is 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.160 the church is a backdrop because you know, so often 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.040 we want to do church shows, and you want to 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.720 everybody to be church eat well. I mean, you know, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.000 just as you go church, don't mean that you what 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.160 you said or the person. It just means that you 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.880 person striving. You are person striving to do the best 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.040 you can and and we need the guidance of the 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.679 Lord to help us find those things in ourselves to 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.560 make us the better person. So these are just regular 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:41.680 people who are attached to a church like so many 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.880 of us, but in their everyday walk some of them 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.560 are trying to really find a better way to do 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.200 their walks, and some are just trying to survive, and 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.079 some really don't give it an you know. So we're 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.439 just regular peoples, yeah, just trying to you know, I 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.239 tell people all the time, we are just these spiritual 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.880 beings having this human experience. And there's this communication of 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.640 you know, I don't really I don't subscribe to religion, 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.920 but my faith and God, in my relationship with God 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.200 is there. But the foundation of coming up in Detroit, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.280 you know, I grew up in a Baptist church. That's 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:23.000 the family. But to really elevating the sense to say hey, 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.480 can you see me? And I'm not gonna spoil it, 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.760 but honey, I was touching my pearls at the end 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:34.640 of the season one premiere. I'm not season one season 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:39.920 five premiere because it's like, while Lady Ella, I see 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:44.040 how she's pulling the strings with Dr Christie, her daughter Christie, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.000 just the manipulation. She gets out of prison and you 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.640 already and then it's like, we're going season five premiere 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:55.240 and it's like, look what your mama has done to you. Yeah, 0:09:55.720 --> 0:10:01.079 she's a manipulated now that that on that So let 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.600 me ask you this one thing that you said about 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.520 what your character, Lady Alex. You said she loves her babies. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:11.360 How was she able to understand or even to grasp 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.479 the idea of love when you look at her relationship 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.920 with her mother. Well, sometimes you want to be everything 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.360 that you didn't have to when you were a mother, 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:25.319 you know, so when you you can step into what 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:30.120 you feel you were missing, you sometimes overcomplsate to give it, 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.559 to give it to other people. So Lady Ella knows 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.400 what she was missing. And and also you know, you 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.520 gotta remember Kendrick got here. That was her love chob 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.000 with with rats and I can't is that a HOMEI 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:48.600 lover frand or fall all of them. That's the thing 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:52.520 about Rex and Lady Ella. They you know, it's like 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.800 they know they hate they love each other, and they 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.480 hate each other, and they they're the only ones who 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.840 can do that dance. They do the same Dan and 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:05.160 sometime he leaves, sometime I leave, and it's like you 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:06.840 can't live with him and you can't live without him, 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.240 and you're gonna see that. You'll see them again this season. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:13.440 They get they do this. But in the end, they came. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.640 They just came out. They just came out. He got 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:24.160 that mound and he just be sitting in the ear. Yeah. Yeah, 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.760 but you know, like mine, think alike. They have like mine, 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.800 birds of a feather flock together. It was an episode 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.040 four or episode was in season three or season four. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.920 I was season three and he told Lady Ellen, he said, 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.959 you're evil matches mine, he's and he was trying to 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.160 let him know, you just you just like me. Ellen. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.400 You try to act like you're not like me. But 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.599 Juke and I directed that episode, and I didn't know 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.560 that scene now. I directed that episode and I it 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.720 was a scene when we were having dinner and because 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.760 he we were kind of starting to date a little 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:02.720 bit then, and he was trying to seduce me and 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.160 he let me know he thought, he said, you're evil 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:10.880 matches mind. So is she scared of him? Oh? No, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.000 He's the only one that you know, in a strange 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.920 way that she really knows and she trusts him because 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.720 she knows who he really is. Come on, wait a minute, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.920 I felt that. Yeah. No, so she knows him, you know, 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.320 and she knows what he's capable of, and she knows 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.040 that he's always gonna come to her rescue and he 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.640 always does, even when he said when he swears he's 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.480 through with her, that's the first person she calls to 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.720 save her is Rex, and he always does. So she's 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.200 scared of him. I had to jump up on a 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:49.880 couple of reasons because, uh Rex, just like how when 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.080 you can be blended in so many categories. It's the flexibility. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.040 It's like you never know what you're gonna get with 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.560 him on a different day. Right. But the thing that 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.880 you said was keen to me is that, yeah, she 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.520 doesn't fear him because she sees him. And it makes 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.600 me think of when you think about fear over all, 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.520 it's false evidence appearing real. And I tell people all 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.120 the time even when you talk about being your best 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.400 self and stepping into something. If I see you, what 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.280 can you do to me? I know which angle that 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.480 you're coming to me. When I lived in New York, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:22.679 that was one thing that I felt like I really 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.840 got my gangster card up, because just walking around New 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.080 York taught me a sense to see. I'm walking down 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:33.080 the street one I see you, how you doing? And 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.840 I think in life and we're come in that disposition 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.319 and just to have something head on. Fear ain't got 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:45.040 nothing on me because I see you bull yeah yeah. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.920 So my thing is this, why does she have to 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.679 keep Rex around? Because he knows where all her body 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:59.440 is buried. He got most stuff on her, just like 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.240 you know him. He know her. And now they say 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.040 you keep your in your friends close, with your enemies closer, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.319 you know. And then there's a sickness with them. They 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.319 can't they have to have each other. They don't. They 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.400 don't want each other the you know, the way other 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.640 people want to each other. And Lady Ella plays with him, 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.000 She messes with them all the time. She just streams 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.520 them along for a little thing. Honey, I said, Mrs Kyla, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.080 Way is holding where you came in there with your money, 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:32.520 you thought off REXI to forgot what's going on. And 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:36.040 it's just so interesting that they say, like a man 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.320 away to a woman's heart is through her ears, and 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.160 a way to a man's heart is through their eyes. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.520 And I see how you guys are doing this dance 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.480 that you're you're you're saying with one another. So when 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.920 we talk about Lady Ella and what I'll give it 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:56.960 too much, where is this going? And ultimately what does 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:01.240 she want? You know the it really wants to be loved. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.880 That's really her biggest problem. She keep pushing everybody away. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.920 He really wants to be loved, and she she wants 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.760 that love of a father, and you know that kind 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.040 of love, the love of a mother. You know, when 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.480 you see the dynamics between her and her mother, you know, 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:21.320 she just wants to be loved. And like we said, 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.040 her people hurt people, so she is pushing people away 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.160 because she's hurt. But she gets she kind of gets her. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.360 She meets her match this season and she's hurt. So 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.640 the hurt that she's inflicted on other people she gets 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:38.920 one't even better and it crushes her because of the 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.000 person that the hurts coming from that inflicted the pain. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.040 Say that mus just say that the person inflicted the pain. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.600 It hurts even more because of who it is and 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.200 what she thought it was going to bring to her life. 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:59.200 On that expectation, she thought that this person was going 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.920 to help change her life and just like if things 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:07.120 she gets played. So wait a minute, Okay, you can't 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.320 tell us what. I can't tell you what. I can't 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.040 think what. Keep watching because those episodes are coming up 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.240 and the other episodes that you're gonna really need to see. 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.400 And I'm like, I can't remember the episode it is. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.160 Is this scene with a Lady Bird and Lady Ella 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.360 and it's Donald Frisco, who plays my mother. Does a 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:28.840 beautiful job in the scene. It's a beautiful scene, and 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.400 you really will find out a lot about Lady Bird 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.800 and Lady Ella and why they are the way they are. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:38.600 It's gonna all reveal. It's it's gonna reveal a whole 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.840 new side of things, and it's gonna give you a 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:46.680 whole different understanding of these characters. That's all I can say. 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:51.000 I came at the premiere of season five and I 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.600 thought I got something because I'm looking at Lady Bird, 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.160 And I'm like, it's just people in the church, this 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.520 whole having to put on, you know, trying to hold 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.960 up to a sudden standard whether and it's just like, 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.119 let God do that work, and why don't you just 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:10.800 do you and just be human exactly exactly. So it's 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.040 so interesting that And I'm just wondering how you pull 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.480 this in with your character. You've been married for over 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:22.040 thirty years, understanding and no one would love looks like, 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.200 knowing the ups and downs, the roller coasters, the twists 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:30.560 and turns. How did you use I guess what you 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.600 knew to either put or to take away from Lady Allen, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.840 because she's kind of like the opposite of what you 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:42.240 would say who you are in your marriage. Yeah, she 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:48.600 doesn't like me, not like me. That's why I'm playing her. 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.720 But I wouldn't want to be her. No, No, I 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.399 wouldn't want to be that lady from the all the 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.000 tea in China. That's a that's probably a lonely place. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.000 She ain't got little friends on the show. That's my show. 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.119 I ain't, I know for no girl friends. Come on, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.320 I don't go out to dinner with nobody. I don't 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:08.919 go to hear no music. Uh Keith his character sings, 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.879 you know myles, he's a singer. He's singing at the 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.480 little club. I don't never go hear him saying I 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:19.600 don't do nothing. So she's lonely. But there's a price 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.440 to pay for when you are not not a nice 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:26.720 person to people and you don't you know, did bring 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:31.760 people into York environment and share and loving and kinds. 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.800 It's a price to pay. So I wouldn't want to 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.960 be hurt. But yes, I've been married for thirty three 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:42.320 years to September, thank you. And and there's a lot 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.160 of work, you know, you gotta put the work in. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.920 So what advice would you give lady Ella about finding 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:51.840 love and marriage and just finding a good man. You 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:58.320 can't be a self selfish person. That's a lady selfish. 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:04.280 She's self serving, And you can't expect somebody to uh 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.399 want to come into that environment unless they are some 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.520 type of crooking person too who is self serving and 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.400 selfish and they gotta plan because they're trying to get 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.640 some money. Then it loves not real because they're using 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:20.720 you and you're using them, right, so that you first 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.240 of all, you gotta you gotta love yourself and you 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.320 gotta stop hurting yourself because the way you treat yourself 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.440 is how you're gonna treat somebody else. What you're saying. 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.439 Hold on. One thing I talked about on the Vitamin 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:35.040 D podcast is how you are your greatest asset. And 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.480 that's just realizing when we talk about money, you know 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.720 what you put into your account and what you take 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.280 out of your account. And let's face it, life is 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:46.000 ups and downs. But it's about finding that balance so 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.560 that you can adjust. Because then everything that's an extension 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.479 of you, Like you said, your relationship, how your hygiene, is, 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:57.320 your career, your faith is all of a temperature check 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:02.399 as to where you are. So interesting. N d r 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.160 Re has said it in a song. She said love 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.320 is not about how much you can take, but how 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:13.919 much you can get. Stat's a Sewan. Folks ain't getting 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.800 married how they used to. Now I'm a millennia, I'm 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:22.440 in my thirties. I think to myself, well, what is it? 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.000 You know people said that marriage people stepped in into 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.840 it for love, But is it unfair to say that 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:33.280 probably then, or you know, years prior, it was a 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:37.360 business exchange. Because I may have stayed through your BS 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.040 because I don't have a job. I have to think 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.400 about the livelihood of my family. But when you talk 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:45.800 about millennials nowadays, we are ambition. We're going after our dreams. 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:49.040 So if I'm not here for the b S, I 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:53.560 can survive without you. What are your thoughts? Well, I mean, 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.760 you know, everybody has the right to feel and do 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.760 what they needed their lives. But I'll say this was 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:04.359 there's no relationship that's not gonna have a challenging moment 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:08.480 or two or compromise. So if if you said, oh, 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.639 I don't need you because I got my home on that, 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.119 and that's cool, But is that what you want? Do 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:14.719 you want to be by yourself? Do you want not 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.639 to have children? You want not to have a family. 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.280 A lot of people want that. So that's what you want, 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:22.399 that's good. But if you want a union, that's mean something, 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.359 especially down the road, if you wanted to use this 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:27.280 to produce children, Yeah, that's gonna b s you gonna 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.320 put up with, you know, But guess what, there's a 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:33.040 being se gonna put up with about you too. That's right. 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.680 You know, you gotta bring more to the table than 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.600 just an appetite. You know, how are you building? Are 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.359 you guys trying to build together? Because yeah, there's gonna 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.040 be some stuff that goes down and not what level 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:47.800 of degree of being you know, I can't speak on that. 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.400 Every about every spirit is different. But if you think 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.960 every day it's gonna be lovey dovey and you you 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.240 you know, rubbing feet together every night, No, and any't 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:00.679 like that. Love changes and you've got to know be 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:02.760 able to change with the love. And that doesn't mean 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.280 that's a bad thing. Love changes doesn't mean it's a 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:07.680 bad thing. It just means that as you grow, love 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:11.800 needs different things to you. It provides different things, It 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:16.000 feels a different way, and you grow with that and 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.720 if you don't sometimes and that's what breaks people up. 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.480 People change doesn't mean that it's a bad change. But 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.399 the person that you met at thirty or whatever and 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.040 you get married, this is gonna be the person you're 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.920 gonna be with twenty years from that and you won't either. 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:35.120 And if you are, then something that's not right, something 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:38.119 that happened. If you're that same person he married, you know, 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.280 then there was some growth that you missed, you know, 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.760 So it's gonna be changed and that's okay. And so 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:46.359 when people say, oh, I don't need I don't need 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:47.960 to devolved. And I got myself and I got my 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:49.800 whole money and I got my own money too, and 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:51.359