1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Horden. Thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: the because training seasons. Over addition, as we look ahead 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: to Sunday season opener in Cleveland coming up, Adam Shine 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: from CBS Sports tells us why he loves the Bengals. 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: This year, I'll go one on one with Cam Taylor 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Britt as he looks to bounce back from a sub 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: far season, and in our NOA Faux segment, we'll find 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: out what success looks like for the Cleveland Browns this 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: year from Zach Jackson, who covers the team for the 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: Athletic The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 2: pay Corps, proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: by Alta Fiber future proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: your home, business, and community to a new level, and 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: by Kettering Health the best care for the best fans. 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: Kettering Health is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: Now here's a quick reminder that you can have the 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: latest edition of this podcast delivered write to your phone, tablet, 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: or computer by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: the greatest thing since the Marty Brenneman Statue. This Saturday, 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds will honor legendary broadcaster Marty Brenneman with 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: the unveiling of his bronze statue outside of Great American Ballpark. 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: I've said before that Marty is responsible for one of 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: the greatest streaks in sports history. Over forty six years 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: and more than seven thousand games, he never botched a 26 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: big call as the voice of the Reds, whether it 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: was the final out of the World Series, a perfect 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: game by Tom Browning, or hit number forty one ninety 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: two by Pete Rose. There was never a stumble, wrong 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: name or incorrect detail. The words and the tone were 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: always perfect. Take it from somebody who tries to do 32 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 2: the same thing for a living. 33 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: That is nothing. 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Short of miraculous. As a play by play announcer of 35 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: live sporting events, you work without an eraser or backspace key. 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: You have one chance to get the moment right, and 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: Marty did for nearly half a century. I look forward 38 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: to seeing the statue of one of bye broadcasting heroes. 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: Now let's get to my first guest. My friend Adam 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: Shine is a busy man every weekday from nine to noon. 41 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: He hosts Shine on Sports on Sirius XM Radio. He 42 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: is the host of the Rise and Shine podcast. And 43 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: now you are going to be seeing him frequently when 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: you watch the NFL on CBS. When you watch the 45 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: Bengals on CBS this year and they go to the 46 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: studio for highlights, the guy that will be doing them 47 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: is my buddy, Adam Shine, and he will be sensational. Adam, 48 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: congratulations on that opportunity. Let's talk Bengals. You are a 49 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: big proponent of playing Joe Burrow and the starters in 50 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: the preseason. You got your wish. Why was it so important? 51 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, then it's always great to be 52 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: with you, and I appreciate the nice words. You kind 53 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: of gave me the chills as you said that, because 54 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: I'm super excited. 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: It's it's a dream assignment. 56 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: I did it a couple of times last year and 57 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: I'm fired up to do it every single week. 58 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: For the NFL and CBS and listen. 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: I give Zach Taylor a lot of credit, and frankly, 60 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: I give Joe Burrow a lot of credit. Look, everyone 61 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: knows the record for the Bengals first two weeks of 62 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: a season under Zach Taylor and it's a thing, and 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: it's real and something had to change. And I think 64 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and 65 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: over again and expecting a different result. 66 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: And for a Cincinnati Bengals. 67 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: Team where Joe Burrow last year, Jamar Chase had this 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: unbelievable historic campaign and Cincinnati didn't make the playoffs, look 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: the goals to win a champcempionship. 70 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: That's that's it. 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: So to me, even as Bengals fans are nervous as 72 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is running backwards with you know, makeshift, it's 73 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: a line of the preseason, Zach Taylor did the right thing, 74 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: even when t Higgins and Tomorrow were on the sideline. 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: I think he did the right thing. And I give 76 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: Joe credit because you know this more than anyone. You 77 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: have to have buy in from the quarterback and he's 78 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: the leader of the team, and Joe has to go 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: along with the plan. And I just think the world 80 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: of what the Bengals did because same old, same old 81 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: was not going to cut it, not going to cut 82 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: it for the leaders, not going to cut it for 83 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: the coaching staff, not going to cut it. For the 84 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: fan base there, obviously there's an expectation. 85 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: I had T Higgins on my Serious XM radio show. 86 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: He said, look, it's about getting into the tournaments and 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 3: winning games, and that to me, for an NFL player, 88 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: I think that's the awesome appropriate response. 89 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: When I asked about preseason expectations. 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: Especially in the AFC this year, make the playoffs and 91 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: be There are about six teams in the AFC that 92 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: I think internally the goal is to win a couple 93 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: of playoff games. Like obviously on math that can't happen, 94 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: but Cincinnati is one of those teams. Win a couple 95 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: of playoff games, play on championship Sunday and see what transpires. 96 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: So I know social media was set up plays when 97 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: Zach had everybody in I know, when Burrow's getting hits, 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 3: everyone gets nervous. Look, no matter what happened, it was 99 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: the right coaching decision and approach. I was very outspoken 100 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: on that, and I'm excited for Zach and the Bengals 101 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: to be rewarded for it because you know nowadays social media, 102 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: you know, talk radio, all the talking heads, there's so 103 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: much scrutiny. No matter how it played out, that was 104 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: the right move. I was happy that the sports gods 105 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: smiled on the Bengals in terms of no injury, no harm, 106 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 3: no foul. So I'm excited for the Bengals to start 107 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: this year in the first two weeks. 108 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: Of the season. 109 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: We like the way that sounds. Let me follow up 110 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: on your interview with t Higgins. You asked him about 111 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: the importance of a fast start. He said, I don't 112 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: really like that narrative, and the national media pounced stephen 113 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: A Smith ridiculed him for that. But I think you 114 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: got what he meant that it's more than just a 115 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: fast start. They're trying to have a great season. Is 116 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: that how you took it? 117 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: One hundred percent? 118 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: And listen, the beauty is anyone could take anything anyway. 119 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: And you know I love stephen A. He's my guy, 120 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: and you know I can appreciate anyone doing what they 121 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: do and saying and spinning anything their way. 122 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: I followed up. 123 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: On Tea's response because I found it so interesting and Dan, 124 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: the way I heard it was okay, we know the record. 125 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: Tea's lived it, Cincinnati's liveded. It's bigger than the first 126 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 3: two weeks. It's okay, next game, next opponent, get to 127 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: the playoffs, do some damage. Like t Higgins is foaming 128 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: at the mouth to play ball, Like leave that to 129 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: me to talk about the first two weeks. He just 130 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: wants to go out play Cleveland, get off to a 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: good start and win, and he wants to win week one, 132 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: week eight January and into February. So I took that 133 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: in terms of his response as let's just kick the 134 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: thing off, let's play ball. I think on the heels 135 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: of last year for team, you know, obviously with the 136 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: contract and the injury and the ambiguity, he's thrilled to 137 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: be back in Cincinnati. 138 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a terrific season. 139 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: And I think for him it was Okay, we know 140 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: the deal, we get it, let's go play football. 141 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: The Bengals extended Jamar, they extended Tea, they were able 142 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: to work things out with Trey for this season. How 143 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: do you grade their offseason? 144 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: I think the offseason was an a you know, and 145 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: I'll even factor in Shamar Stewart's right, and even when 146 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: things were kind of going sideways here, right, you know, 147 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: where we didn't know about Trey, we didn't know about Schamar. 148 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: It all works and you know, forget about the comments 149 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: or the whold out or. 150 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: The inactivity in May. 151 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: Stewart looked great in camp from all reports, looked good 152 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: in the preseason games. 153 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: From all reports. I thought the pick was really good 154 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 1: at the time. 155 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: You know, Trey Hendrickson, you needed him to sign in 156 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: my opinion by a certain dates. 157 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: He did it. 158 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 3: I think he'll be top four, top five for a 159 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: quarterback sacks. He's a terrific player, I thought, and I 160 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: love that Rumo did on defense. I thought bringing in 161 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: Al Golden again needed to make a change. You know, 162 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: I still think what coach Rumo did was was strong 163 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: for a long period of time. But I'm a big 164 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: Al Golden fan. I thought that was terrific. And Dan, 165 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: let's not bury the lead here because I think times, 166 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: you know, with the Bengals, it could be, oh, they didn't. 167 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: Do this, or they're doing that. 168 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: They signed Jamar Chase and t Higgins, and I was 169 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: pretty outspoken on that where you needed to sign both 170 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: and that sounds great if you have a microphone in 171 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: the national media. 172 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: Right, the Bengals did it. When you have Joe Burrow. 173 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: When the Colts I had Peyton Manning. You want to 174 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: give him two absolute stars at the receiver position. It 175 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: was Harrison and Wayne and now it's Chasing Higgins. You know, 176 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: some number two is historically you know, we could talk 177 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: Peerless Prize or Alvin Harper. They changed teams. You know, 178 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: t Higgins is a legit number one receiver. He just 179 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: happens to be the number two on the Cincinnati Bengals 180 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: because Jamar Chase is outstanding. So for the Bengals to 181 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: realize that that gives them the best opportunity to win 182 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 3: and to keep that together. And that's Look, you can 183 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: debate anything. You know, Joe Burrow's top four quarterback in 184 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: the NFL. You could tell me he's one, two, three 185 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: or four and we could have an intelligent conversation. We 186 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 3: know the other names of Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and 187 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. There's no debate. Best quarterback receiver combo in 188 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 3: the NFL. That's Cincinnati. That's a strength and I think 189 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: the Bengals deserve a lot of credit for keeping that 190 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: band together. 191 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: Adam he tweeted recently, I want to love this team, 192 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: but so you've got some reservations. 193 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: What are they? 194 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: I need to see the defense. I think it will 195 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: be better. I need to see it the tackling preseason. 196 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: Look, we always. 197 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: Get nuts when things are great in the preseason, and 198 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: you know, I refer to it Dan as you don't 199 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: want to get Joey Harrington's right, Like I remember Joey 200 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: Harrington looked great in a couple of preseason games. 201 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: Oh, Joey Lynn's good. I mean you don't. 202 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: So you always want to, you know, go against you know, 203 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: having something ultra positive, and then you think you're gonna 204 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: crown somebody. I think when there's something you cancerned abouts 205 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: and is on the heels of last year, is on 206 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: the heels of you know what we saw with when 207 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: Cincinnati defense did not perform well, that to me was 208 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: a little alarming in terms of the defense. I kind 209 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: of wanted the offensive line again, not on the preseason, 210 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: just maybe in terms of names and personnel and offseason to. 211 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: Feel a little bit better about it. You know. I 212 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: made my picks. 213 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: For the AFC Tuesday after Labor Day, and I took 214 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: the Bengals and I thought about taking them to win 215 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: the division. 216 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: I picked them third in the division. 217 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: I picked them seventh seed, and I honestly in the 218 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: AFC North. I struggled because I think there are three 219 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: teams that have real Super Bowl aspirations. I put Pittsburgh 220 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: in the conversation. I love Baltimore this year. I really 221 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: want to see Cincinnati playing for a Super Bowl. I 222 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: think the elements are there. I think there's a lot 223 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 3: of areas that are underrated. My concern is that the 224 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: other two teams in the division are just a little 225 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: bit more well rounded. 226 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: That might not matter. 227 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: And if this defense under Coach Golden, plays to the 228 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: level I think they are capable of where they can 229 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: create turnovers, get sacks, get the opposition's offense off the field, 230 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: get Joe the ball back, then I think they'll be fine. 231 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 3: But I just I'm concerned about the division and the 232 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: defense and how it stacks up ultimately. 233 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: In the ANC North, the Bengals open in Cleveland. The 234 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: Browns have issues, but we've learned not to take anything 235 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: for granted, especially in the AFC North. What do you 236 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: think about that Week one matchup? 237 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: So maybe this is me drinking the kool aid after 238 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: the T Higgins interview, but I can't stress enough how 239 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: much I love the Bengals, Like I think Joe Burrow 240 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: is going to absolutely explode. I think that t Higgins 241 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: and Jamar Chase will get into the end zone a 242 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: couple of times each. Like I think that because of 243 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: the history and the precedents of the slow starts since 244 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, and the expectations and the offseason, I just 245 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: think they're not taking anything for granted. You talk about 246 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: your reference obviously, my take on the genius of playing 247 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: these guys in the preseason, I think Borrow is gonna 248 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: come out firing. Like it's kind of crazy and I'm 249 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: guilty of it. We all start doing MVP rankings in September, 250 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 3: like there's you know, any kind of avalidity to it. 251 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 3: I think Joe Burrow for MVP, Jamar Chase for Offensive 252 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: Player of the Year. After the first two weeks of 253 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: the season, Like when you start seeing odds and line movement, 254 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: we're going to be talking about those guys being absolutely dominant. 255 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: I also think that Joe Flacco, while he was strong, 256 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: let's be fair, a couple of years ago playing for 257 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski, I think the most underrated story when it 258 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: comes to Cleveland or under talked about story, Joe Flecko 259 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: did him play well last year? That's why Indianapolis moved 260 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: on from him. So my expectations for the Browns are 261 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: really low. Now, obviously they have Miles Garrett, their defense 262 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: is strong. I think Kevin Stefanski is a hell of 263 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: a coach. They will be ready. But I really think 264 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: the Bengals come out with a vengeance internally and to 265 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: kind of maybe hush some of the loud, obnoxious voices 266 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: on the outside, and I think they spank the Cleveland Browns. 267 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: All Right, you heard it from Adam Shine, This has 268 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: been great. Can't wait to see you in the studio 269 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: throughout this season on CBS. Thanks so much for joining us, Dan, 270 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: you the best, Appreciate anything for you. After t Higgins 271 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: appeared on his radio show, Adam praised his leadership, accountability 272 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: and just play ball mentality and predicted that t is 273 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: going to have a monster year. Here's hoping he's right 274 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: up next. My one on one visit with Cam Taylor 275 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: Britt last week on this podcast, I included Cam on 276 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: my list of the Bengals top five training camp standouts. 277 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, we were talking about his strong 278 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: camp and Cam mentioned that he's following a strict daily routine. 279 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: This year that begins with making his bed in the morning, 280 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: and that reminded me of one of the best speeches 281 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: I've ever heard. Several years ago, Naval Admiral William mccraven 282 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: delivered the commencement speech at the University of Texas and 283 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: shared ten lessons he learned from basic seal training. If 284 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: you've never seen it, I highly recommend looking up McRaven 285 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: commencement speech on YouTube. The first lesson he shared with 286 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: the graduates is the importance of making your bed. 287 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 5: If you make your bed every morning, you will have 288 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 5: accomplished the first task of the day. It will give 289 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 5: you a small sense of pride, and it will encourage 290 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 5: you to do another task, and another and another, and 291 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 5: by the end of the day that one task completed 292 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 5: will have turned into many task completed. Making your bed 293 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 5: will also reinforce the fact that the little things in 294 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 5: life matter. If you can't do the little things right, 295 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: you'll never be able to do the big things right. 296 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 5: And if, by chance, you have a miserable day, you 297 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: will come home to a bed that is made, that 298 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 5: you made, and a made bed gives you encouragement that 299 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 5: tomorrow will be better. So if you want to change 300 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: the world, start off by making your bed. 301 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: Now, here's my conversation with fourth year cornerback cam Taylor Brett. 302 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: Kem. 303 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: You were talking a few weeks ago about following a 304 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: strict routine and you said, you have to make your 305 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: bed in the morning to start the day off. Right, 306 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: there's a famous speech where Admiral will Yeah McRaven talks 307 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: about that. Are you familiar with that speech? Did a 308 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: coach or a mentor talk about the importance of beginning 309 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: the day making your better? Did you just come up 310 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: with that on your own? 311 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 6: Kind of been doing my whole life? Honestly, I think 312 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 6: that's the best way you start your day off. And 313 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 6: I think it's kind of plays the test of football, 314 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 6: you know, detailed, you know, and everything else. And think 315 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 6: about it. If you're not life is a miss. Your 316 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 6: room is a miss, you know, and that's the one 317 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 6: you know you don't want to live that way. And 318 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 6: I said, yeah, most definitely start by cleaning my room 319 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 6: on basically making my bed, you know, uh, the first 320 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 6: start all. 321 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: Right, Now, you have to watch that speech because he says, 322 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: if you want to change the world, make your bed 323 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: every morning. 324 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: Wow. Almost definitely didn't know that. 325 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: So when you talk about following a more strict routine, 326 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: how is that helping you? 327 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: Man? Thank yous planning out in my favor. 328 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 6: Man, Honestly, I feel like I've gotten better in every 329 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 6: every way, uh physically and a better football player by 330 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 6: cutting out some things and just putting some things in. 331 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: Something like that. 332 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 6: I need to do far as my body, working with 333 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 6: certain people, getting extra work with Chuck, you know, as 334 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 6: my dog. So you know, I want to be the 335 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 6: best I can be and he wants me to as well, 336 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 6: so you know, he he's always on my side to 337 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 6: help me. You know, anytime I want to know or 338 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 6: get some air strata, know this, this andess, especially with 339 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 6: the game's. 340 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: Coming, You're always confident. But is it at a new 341 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 2: level going into this season. 342 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is. I don't know the word for it. Man. 343 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: I just want to play with. 344 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 6: Fire under my butt, you know, every play basically, don't 345 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 6: let nothing go for. 346 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 4: Granted, don't look back at my damn. 347 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 6: You could have doled for that, or could have did 348 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 6: this or Yeah, I don't want no fear of failure. 349 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: Basically playing out there this year, you know, want. 350 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 6: To be the best cam tend a brid out there 351 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 6: on the field for the Bengals. 352 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's it. 353 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: You've been asked a lot about last season, and it 354 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: was obviously an inconsistent one for you, but you always 355 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: point out that you did play all seventeen games. Why 356 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: was that so important to you? 357 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 6: It was very important to me, just because it doesn't 358 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 6: happen a lot, especially in the NFL week. The week 359 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 6: in these games that we do play are very crucial 360 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 6: on the body. 361 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 4: Sometimes there's short weeks. You know, you got your Monday 362 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 4: night games purs of night games, and your body doesn't 363 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: fully recover. 364 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 6: But I feel like that's one thing I took a 365 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 6: step in lest year, was trying to make sure my 366 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 6: body was always right, and I think it kind of 367 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 6: played out into my favor and towards the end of 368 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 6: the season. You know, but that is a great thing 369 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 6: to play a full season of football. 370 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 2: You've got new defensive coordinator and Al Golton. Did that 371 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: give you a fresh start? 372 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 6: I would say so, yeah, you can honestly put it 373 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 6: in those words, as you know, like you said, the 374 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 6: year ahead, Uh, it's like a fresh everything, you know, uh, 375 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 6: And and just coming into the building with a new 376 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 6: mindset as with the defense. 377 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 4: And everybody's all aboard on it. It's been great. 378 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: Did you feel like lou Ana Roumo lost faith in you? 379 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say I feel like he lost faith. I 380 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 6: think one thing he always tried to do is getting 381 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 6: me back to where I was. 382 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: Honestly, in a way, I don't. 383 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 6: I know, it's a business at the end of the day, 384 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 6: and if you're you're messing up out there, you don't 385 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 6: belong out there. And that's what it was in the sense, 386 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 6: So I don't. I wouldn't say that. He's always pushed 387 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 6: me and you know, been behind me and in ways 388 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 6: that I probably wouldn't even know behind closed doors. 389 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: Chuck Burks is in your corner. Describe your relationship with 390 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: your cornerbacks coach. 391 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: Father figure away from you know, a home. 392 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 6: Basically, I don't. You don't have to go and look 393 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 6: for a search or anything. When I got you know, 394 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 6: chick right there, you know, uh for basically you know 395 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 6: all my answers. I can speak to him, you know, 396 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 6: not just about football, but you know outside of the building, 397 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 6: you know, my life. Want us to know about your 398 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 6: mental and how are you not just the football player? 399 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: But Cam celebrate. 400 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: This is a contract year. The top cornerbacks in the 401 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: NFL are making more than twenty million dollars a year. 402 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: Do you have to put that in the back of 403 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 2: your mind at the start of a season. 404 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, just go ball, do my job. The ball will 405 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 6: find me. It's simple as that. Just continue to do 406 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 6: what I do and don't don't veer away from the light, 407 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 6: you know, to shine that. 408 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 4: I put out there already on. 409 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 6: Myself, gonna shy away from you know, take take everything, 410 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 6: simple as it. 411 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: We're visiting with Cam Taylor Brett. You open against the 412 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns with forty year old Joe Flaccoyd quarterback. He 413 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: played his first NFL game when you were eight years old. 414 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: Can you fool a guy like that? Or do you 415 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: beat him with a good pass rush and forcing him 416 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: to make throws that he'd do want to make? 417 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 6: I think that's sacod answer is probably the busines answer. 418 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 6: Uh yeah, not much fooling. You would say, what has 419 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 6: he seen? But we can play harder than him, We 420 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 6: can play we can we can you know, rest the 421 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 6: quarterback a lot faster, you know, make him make a 422 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 6: decision a lot faster. Uh, dis ripped the time in 423 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 6: on the outside of receivers. Yeah, I wouldn't say. You know, 424 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 6: there's not much you could do with my Joe. Man, 425 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 6: he's he's a season vent for sure. And you know, 426 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 6: we just gotta go out there and play our game. 427 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: You know. Uh, whatever our calls, we run it and execute. 428 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: It's your fourth NFL season, the Bengals have never won 429 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: in Week one. How sick are you of all of 430 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: the fast start conversation? 431 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 6: He pissed me off. Man, I feel like, you know, 432 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, we just need to 433 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 6: go out there and go do it. And I played 434 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 6: a huge factor in that. So, you know, we just 435 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 6: gotta go out there and do it. None knows to 436 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 6: be said. 437 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: Final thing for Cam Taylor Brett, your alma mater. Nebraska 438 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: open this season with a victory over the University of 439 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bearcats. Safe to assume you watch the game and 440 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: what did you think? 441 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 4: Yes? 442 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 6: I did watch the game, Man, go big Red. That 443 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 6: was a lovely win, especially in the arrow. But uh, 444 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 6: you know, I do think the Husters can make a 445 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 6: run for it, you know, I think, of course, there's 446 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 6: some bumpser bruises along the game. 447 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: First game of the season Jitters. 448 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 6: Also, you know they're playing at the NFL stadium, so 449 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 6: I know some of those kids very in all. But 450 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 6: uh right, the kid Dealer, he's very smooth too. Man 451 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 6: like how he plays at a running back over there. 452 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 6: I gotta get his name and he went for like 453 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 6: one twenty. 454 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: Five Ammitt Johnson. 455 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's nice, man. I love the way he runs 456 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 4: very hard. 457 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 6: Marque's Bruefort on defense, Malcolm Hartzog on defense. 458 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 4: They're looking good, man. 459 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: I think they could do some big Congrats on that win. 460 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: More importantly, get one against Cleveland. 461 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 6: Most definitely who the that's Camp Taylor Brett. 462 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: The first depth chart of the year, Cam Taylor Brett 463 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: and DJ Turner are listed as the starting outside corners, 464 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: with Dax Hill penciled in as the starter at slot corner. 465 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps, 466 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: Proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by 467 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: Alta Fiber future Proof Fiber Internet designed elevator, home, business 468 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health 469 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is 470 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now time for 471 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: this week's Know the Faux segment. After winning eleven games 472 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: and going to the playoffs two years ago, the browns 473 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 2: fortunes plummeted last season as Cleveland went three to fourteen. 474 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: As a result, the Browns appear to have moved on 475 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: from the two hundred and thirty million dollar mistake by 476 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: the Lake quarterback to Shawn Watson and started another rebuild 477 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: built around the league's best defensive player, Miles Garrett and 478 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: a bunch of draft picks. Zach Jackson, who covers the 479 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: Browns for The Athletic, joined Dave Lapham and me on 480 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: the Bengals Game Planned show this week and I asked 481 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: him what success looks like for the Browns in twenty 482 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: twenty five. 483 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 7: Well, I think it means getting some clarity on some things, 484 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 7: and even if that's not quarterback, you know, I think 485 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 7: they have to know that they were right to recommit 486 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 7: smile Garrett. I think they have to know that they 487 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 7: had a good draft class, which they think they do, 488 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 7: and they need to know if they have the right 489 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 7: guys in charge. Frankly, and I think these are smart guys. 490 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 7: I think they've done a good job in spots and 491 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 7: bad spots. Bad job in others, But I don't know 492 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 7: that the greatest front office in the world could recover 493 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 7: from the Deshaun Watson mistake. I really mean that. And 494 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 7: it's gonna haunt this team. It's gonna hurt their salary tap, 495 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 7: it's hurt how they're perceived, right, and the roster is 496 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 7: not awful, but it's pretty thin. So we're just starting 497 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 7: a long journey here, and I don't know what the 498 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 7: roster is going to look like or what the record 499 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 7: is going to look like, you know, three months from now. 500 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 7: I got a feeling the Browns are going to be 501 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 7: really hard to play against, if this makes sense, But 502 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 7: I'm not sure how many games they're gonna win. So 503 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 7: that's the hell of a question you've asked there. 504 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and a very interesting answer. 505 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 8: I mean, I think the biggest concern that I would 506 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 8: have as a as a Cleveland Browns fan is the 507 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 8: quarterback position. You mentioned Joe Flacco. Is Joe Flacco got 508 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 8: anything left? Is he got something in the tank? I 509 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 8: think Cleveld's gonna score some points. I think they'll score 510 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 8: some points. My question is will the Bengals be able 511 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 8: to score points against the Cleveland Browns? Defensive football team. 512 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 8: And do the Cleveland Browns defensive football team have any 513 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 8: weaknesses anywhere that you're that concern you going into this opener? 514 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, a corner. They're really thin and you don't want 515 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 7: to be that against the Bengals. Right, they're finant linebacker. 516 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 7: Now the rookie, the second round rookie Carson Sweatsyer. I 517 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 7: want you guys to circle that name because he is 518 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 7: off to an amazing start. And I think they got 519 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 7: one right there. We'll see, yeah, Lap, I think Flaco's 520 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 7: in great shape. I know we can still sling it. 521 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 7: I know they're going to have a good plan on right. 522 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 7: Can they avoid the turnovers? 523 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: You know? 524 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 7: Can they get up enough to really put pressure on Burrow? 525 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 7: The Browns offensive line should be a strength. They have 526 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 7: four guys back who've been there a long time. The 527 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 7: problem is none of the four are under contract for 528 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 7: next year. You know, Joel Atonio's had a borderline Hall 529 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 7: of Fame career. We don't know if he's going to 530 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 7: play anymore after this year. So it's a top heavy team. 531 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 7: It's a team that has good players in most spots, 532 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 7: that's completely unproven depths and has questions across the offense, 533 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 7: and then you know, we know that September in the 534 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 7: NFL is strange. But in this game, you have a 535 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 7: clear elite offense in the Bengals and a really good 536 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 7: to elite defense in the Browns. The other side step 537 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 7: question marks. So I think we see this game more 538 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 7: clearly than you see a lot of early season games. 539 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 7: But what's going to happen? I don't know. I think 540 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 7: it's going to be wild come Sunday afternoons. 541 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach Jackson covers the Browns for the athletic Miles 542 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: Garrett demanded a trade early in the offseason. Browns gave 543 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: him one hundred and sixty million dollars to change his 544 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: mind after seeing what the Cowboys got in exchange for Parsons. 545 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: Should the Browns have traded Miles Garrett? 546 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 7: No, even though I thought mostly they should have. I'm 547 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 7: glad you've stramed it that way, Dan, because it's like this, 548 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 7: you would have had to have get gotten a real 549 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 7: offer that was almost double that for the Browns to 550 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 7: entertain it. They think he's that good, right, and you 551 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 7: can we can talk for hours about how they just 552 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 7: throw money to fix their problems, and we could talk 553 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 7: for hours about whether Miles Garrett's going to give you 554 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 7: full buy in or whether he's still going to be 555 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 7: great the next time that you're good. But they couldn't 556 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 7: be the front office that traded four to Shaun Watson 557 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 7: and traded away Miles Garrett for one and for two. 558 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 7: Even though they're pretty walking, pretty close to admitting they're 559 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 7: in a rebuild, they think Miles is so generationally good 560 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 7: and has so much left in the tank that they 561 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 7: weren't going to watch him walk away. And I think 562 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 7: this summer he and Denzel Ward have both been phenomenal. 563 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 7: That's part of the reason, along with that rookie linebacker 564 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 7: that I think the defense gives them a chance. And 565 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 7: like I said, this is going to be a really 566 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 7: hard team to play against. I don't know about the 567 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 7: offensive cohesion, I don't know about the depth. You know, 568 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 7: you never know with injuries. But it is a team 569 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 7: in a really weird spot because their best players are 570 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 7: either thirty or near thirty and make a lot of money, 571 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 7: and there's not a ton of young players there and 572 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 7: there's certainly no long term answer at quarterback. 573 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 8: Did Dallas get enough? When you talk to people in 574 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 8: the Cleveland Browns organization. You said, Miles Garrett, you know 575 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 8: they would have they would have commanded twice as much. 576 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 8: He's when the Dallas Cowboys got What did does Cleveland 577 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 8: do that? People look in the front office in Cleveland 578 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 8: think that Dallas kind of enough. 579 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 7: No, I don't think anyone does. And it's just, you know, 580 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 7: they were just not realistically ever going to get enough 581 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 7: to trade the guy right. So they went out and 582 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 7: they paid ten million to a veteran in Elie Collins 583 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 7: to play next to him, and they went and they 584 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 7: got the number five pick in the draft, Mason Graham, 585 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 7: who's going to be a going up against the new 586 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 7: right guard. And they hope that those guys can only 587 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 7: share it. And they hope that Garrett, I think thirteen 588 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 7: sacks in twelve games against the Bengals, they're hoping he 589 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 7: has about five of them on Sunday. 590 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: A couple more questions for our guests, Zach Jackson, who 591 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: covers the Browns for the Athletic. There are a lot 592 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: of Ohio State fans, obviously in the Cincinnati area, and 593 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: anybody that watched Quinn Seawan Judkins played for the Buck 594 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: guys last year, particularly in the National Championship Game. I 595 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to face him. I mean, he is an 596 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: angry runner, but he's been out of training camp because 597 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: of a contract battle. Is he gonna play on Sunday 598 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: or do the Bengals get to avoid him in week one? 599 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 7: He had no chance even if he signs. And I 600 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 7: really don't know what's going on exactly with that, but 601 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 7: you know, he's missed all a training camp, so he 602 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 7: has really put I don't want to say it here 603 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 7: in the first week of September that he's put his 604 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 7: entire rookie season in danger. But when you're a running 605 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 7: back and you missed training camp, it's going to be 606 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 7: awfully hard to gain the trust of the staff. And 607 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 7: they picked him over Trayvon Henderson, his Ohio State teammate, 608 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 7: because they thought he was the better stylistic fit for 609 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 7: what they needed and what they want to do, and 610 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 7: to not have him leave a running game that was 611 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 7: completely broken last year with two intriguing backs in Ford 612 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 7: and Stampson. But they're smaller backs and neither one of 613 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 7: them as talented as he is. So it is a blow. 614 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 7: And it is one of these things that you look 615 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 7: and you say every year it's something with this team, 616 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 7: and this year it's the number thirty six pick in 617 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 7: the draft not having a contract four days before the 618 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 7: season starts. 619 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 8: Boy, I'll tell you that's that's interesting. What offensively Cleveland's 620 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 8: got Joe Flackhall. You mentioned that Joe Flaccoll looks really good. 621 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 8: I mean he probably throws the ball. Joe Barlow was 622 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 8: talking about him today, saying that he's a natural. 623 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: Thrower of the football. 624 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 8: The ball comes out of Joe Flacco's hand about as 625 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 8: well as he's ever seen. Who are his main weapons 626 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 8: or is it just a collection of a little bit 627 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 8: from everybody. 628 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Jerry Duty is no doubt the number 629 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 7: one guy. They're going to utilize David Najoku, and they're 630 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 7: also going to utilize as the rookie tight end Harold Fannon, 631 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 7: who's gonna kind of eventually take over from the Joku, 632 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 7: maybe as soon as this month, but we'll see. But 633 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 7: it's Jerry, Judy Speed, It's Cedric Tillman size, it's the 634 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 7: new rookie Isaiah Bond, who I think will get some 635 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 7: gadget plays and maybe a bomb or two. I mean, 636 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 7: there's a lot that went right back in twenty three 637 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 7: when Flacco came off the couch and led the Browns 638 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 7: to the playoffs flat. But when you watch those games, 639 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 7: there are many times that you see you look and 640 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 7: you say, well, the safety was out a position or 641 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 7: somebody got fooled there, and that's not really the case. 642 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 7: It's that Flacco throws it so much further than almost 643 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 7: every other quarterback does that guys were not believing that 644 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 7: he would actually do that. So if he hits a 645 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 7: couple of those Sunday and the stadium goes nuts, the 646 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 7: Browns can get some momentum. If he throws it to 647 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 7: the other team, which he's been known to do, then 648 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 7: the Bengals might run away with it. I think it's 649 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 7: going to be a close game. I think the ball 650 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 7: is going to be in Burrough's hands late and the 651 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 7: game is going to be very much undecided. 652 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: Final question for me, Zach. They drafted two quarterbacks, Dylan 653 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: Gabriel and Shador Sanders. You would think at some point 654 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: this year, I want to know what they have. Did 655 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: either guy look like you would be able to start 656 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: relatively soon. 657 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 7: I don't believe that, at least not effectively. You know, 658 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 7: Gabriel was a six year college player. They drafted him 659 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 7: because they feel like that he was able to pick 660 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 7: things up in process and make a better transition. I 661 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 7: don't know that he'll ever have the ability, right, but 662 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 7: I would say then they're both going to play. When 663 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 7: we see you guys in January again, one of them 664 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 7: is going to be playing. They're probably both going to 665 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 7: play before that. You know, they would love, obviously for 666 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 7: one to be the answer. And maybe the only way 667 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 7: out of this Watson thing is to find your own 668 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 7: Brock Purty, right, a quarterback drafted late, comes out of 669 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 7: nowhere who doesn't cost anything and becomes that guy. Shador 670 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 7: is intriguing. He's miles away from that. Dylan Gabriel is 671 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 7: a fast processor and a pretty accurate thrower. I don't 672 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 7: know that he'll ever have this physical ability to be 673 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 7: a starting quarterback here. But the one prediction I have 674 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,239 Speaker 7: for this season is, I think eleven times since ninety nine, 675 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 7: the Browns have had at least three different starting quarterbacks 676 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 7: in a season. Write me down for number twelve and 677 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five. 678 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: That's incredible. 679 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 8: What a stat that is the coaching staff? How safe 680 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 8: is everybody is? Kevin Stefanski. Is he in good shape 681 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 8: with the general manager, with ownership, with everybody. 682 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Kevin's held in high regard. I think 683 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 7: Kevin's going to have him really ready to play on Sunday. 684 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 7: And I don't think they want to move on. But 685 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 7: I think the answer to that question lies in what 686 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 7: kind of season is it? 687 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 4: Right? 688 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 7: Do they continue to have more judkins off the field incidents? 689 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 7: Do they have incidents where guys are loafings, or do 690 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 7: they come out and they compete and they're prepared and 691 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 7: sometimes they just turn out of talent. I think we 692 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 7: have to see that. I know that ownership does not 693 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 7: want to move on from the coach or the GM, 694 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 7: and I know that everybody's driven to make up for 695 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 7: this Watson mistake and to kind of hang their hats 696 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 7: on this rookie class that looks really good before a 697 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 7: real snap has ever played. But the reality is, when 698 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 7: you go from eleven wins in the playoffs the three wins, 699 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 7: I don't care who you are, You're on the hot 700 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 7: seats next year. So let's check back in a couple 701 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 7: months to see where that's stands. 702 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 2: Thanks thus Zach Jackson, And that wraps up this edition 703 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: of the Bengals Booth Podcast brought to you by pay Core, 704 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 2: Proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider by 705 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: Ulta Fiber, future proof fiber Internet designed elevate your home, 706 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 2: business and community to a new level, and by Kettering 707 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: Health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 708 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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