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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm Chandler Room, joined by Tyler Stafford. I am in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada, at the New York New York Hotel,

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Speaker 1: which has exceeded every expectation I had for it. The

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Speaker 1: bar is pretty low on that one. But the GM

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Speaker 1: meetings actually just finished up about an hour ago at

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Speaker 1: the Cosmopolitan Hotel, which is the best hotel on the

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Speaker 1: Vegas Strip. I will hear no debate otherwise. Dana Brown,

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Speaker 1: the astors GM, talked today for about forty minutes. You know,

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Speaker 1: covered a lot of topics and there wasn't much Tyler

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Speaker 1: that I think was, you know, super noteworthy. I don't think,

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Speaker 1: you know, there was a ton of breaking news or anything.

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Speaker 1: But that's kind of how this goes. The GM meetings

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Speaker 1: are very much a you know, agents and other team

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Speaker 1: officials kind of liken it to this is where you

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Speaker 1: build the foundation, is where you start. Like this is

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Speaker 1: where like teams figure out, oh, like that guy's available

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Speaker 1: in trade or oh like that's what this free agent's

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Speaker 1: looking for years and money wise, Like you build the

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Speaker 1: you lay the foundation here, you build the groundwork. Uh,

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Speaker 1: to set for the off season. So that's what the

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Speaker 1: Astros did. Their contingent here, they met with all the

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Speaker 1: agents that are here, they met with other teams. It's

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Speaker 1: just really kind of a feeling out process. So not

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Speaker 1: a ton of actual transactions or news, but still some

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Speaker 1: some insightful stuff to come out of Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you do the whole time? It's like,

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Speaker 2: do they announce, Oh, this press conference is happening over

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Speaker 2: like a middle school dance standing in the hotel lobby

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Speaker 2: trying to work up the courage to go talk to people.

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Speaker 1: It is very like I was I was joking with

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Speaker 1: someone earlier today. The GM meetings is basically standing and

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Speaker 1: drinking for three days. A lot of stuff happens after

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Speaker 1: hours at various hotel bars, various places. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people in the industry that just kind of gather

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Speaker 1: there and a lot of stuff happens there during the meetings.

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Speaker 1: And meetings is kind of a misnomer, like it's not

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Speaker 1: a couple of things that all the teams have to attend,

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Speaker 1: But this is really just like a big convention kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. You know, every agency, like the Boris Corps

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Speaker 1: same thing with Wasserman, same thing with all these different agencies.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, there's a lot of times where

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's not for the uh, it's not for

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Speaker 1: the introverted. It's and which is which is tough for

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Speaker 1: me because I'm not somebody that's, you know, normally gonna

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Speaker 1: to you, to meet you, things like that. Like it

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Speaker 1: tests a lot of you know, your your social skills,

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Speaker 1: got to wait until Dana Brown talks. But to answer

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Speaker 1: your other question, all the National League gms talked on

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Speaker 1: the only formal media availability was just both of those days.

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Speaker 1: And luckily, you know, with with Dana, it was just

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of invaluable time to have with the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone who is in sales, I have spent a

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Speaker 2: lot of time doing exactly what you just said, of

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you on that. Uh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the first thing that is kind of

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Speaker 1: more of a hierarchical thing. So the way they're going

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Speaker 1: we've talked about in this podcast before. He's agreed he's

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Speaker 1: to Victor Rodriguez. He's been with the Padres for a

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they're not sharing. He's the he's the lead

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Speaker 1: Sure. Now, Anthony Iopaci, who is the other hitting coach

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Speaker 1: he will not be in uniform every game, but his

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Speaker 1: Dan Hennigan is a biomechanic guru. He founded He founded

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put it all together. And they have a

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Speaker 1: it's a different set of eyes. But as we talked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds interesting. I just so you know, MLB

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Speaker 2: y'all can fight that out on what the actual title is.

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Speaker 2: I Apash, I A pashi Chi, I both.

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Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying his name right, that this is

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Speaker 1: how Dana said it, I Apachi. I hope, I hope

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Speaker 2: Well, he went to Lamar University in Belmont. He played

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll see. We'll see which players these guys

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Speaker 1: So, as I said earlier, the GM meetings, you get

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Speaker 1: throes of it. Uh. He did acknowledge that in looking

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Speaker 1: at the injuries this year, that they did have some

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Speaker 1: guys that he believed and they believed return too soon,

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Speaker 1: that that got back too quickly. Jake Myers collapsing before

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Speaker 1: a pitch was even thrown in a game in July

435
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Speaker 1: was the it's enough of that. But yeah, it just again,

436
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Speaker 1: as we've talked about, James Click said they needed to

437
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Speaker 1: review this three years ago, and I guess now it's

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Speaker 1: being done. So not much in the way of specifics,

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Speaker 1: not much and like here's what they're going to change,

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Speaker 1: here's how they're going to change it. But it is

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Speaker 1: being reviewed, it is being looked at. And again, as

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Speaker 1: we as we both said for a while as this

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Speaker 1: was becoming a thing, you know, neither of us are doctors,

444
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Speaker 1: neither of us are physical therapists, neither of us are

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Speaker 1: athletic trainers. I can't sit here and tell you what

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Speaker 1: they have to do. Differently, I can't like I can't

447
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Speaker 1: just sit here and you know, estimate or hypothesize like

448
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Speaker 1: this is what needs to be done. I'm not that smart.

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Speaker 1: I just don't have that acumen to be able to

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Speaker 1: do that. So I'm not going to sit here and

451
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Speaker 1: try to do that. But all I can tell you

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Speaker 1: is Dana said they're looking into it. Hopefully maybe when

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Speaker 1: we get to the winter meetings, maybe when we get

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Speaker 1: later on down the road, we can get a little

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Speaker 1: more into kind of how this is what they're going

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Speaker 1: to change. But yeah, there are there are changes happening,

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Speaker 1: which is which is good to hear, and obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: pretty needed a couple other housekeeping things. Dana Brown said

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Speaker 1: that they're about a week away from hiring a second

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Speaker 1: pitching coach to go alongside Josh Miller to replace Bill Murphy.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening this deep into the podcast, you'll get

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Speaker 1: a little bit of scoop. I know a couple guys

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Speaker 1: that have interviewed. One of them is Barry Enwright, the

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Speaker 1: former Angels pitching coach. He was the Angels pitching coach

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Speaker 1: last couple of years under Ron Washington, a younger, progressive,

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Speaker 1: kind of analytical guy. I've heard very good things about him.

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Speaker 1: And then another guy that they have talked to is

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Speaker 1: Oscar Martin was He was coincidentally the Pirates pitching coach

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Speaker 1: that was let go last season, so he would be

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Speaker 1: interviewing to take the job of the guy that took

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Speaker 1: his job in Pittsburgh. So those are two names, Dana

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Speaker 1: Brown said, they had more. It's obviously it's more than

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Speaker 1: two people, but those are just two guys that I

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Speaker 1: have heard that they have they've looked at, not saying

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Speaker 1: that their finalists not saying that they're going to get

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Speaker 1: the job, just giving you two names because you guys

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Speaker 1: deserve some insights, So thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. Uh.

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Speaker 2: I'm still not clear on what the difference between the

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Speaker 2: GM meetings and the Winter Meetings are.

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Speaker 1: The easiest way to explain it is the managers. So

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Speaker 1: all the managers go to the Winter meetings, and the

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Speaker 1: Winter meetings are a lot more.

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Speaker 2: Formal, Like I've been to the Winter Meetings and it's

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Speaker 2: it's also like a job fair. Essentially, there's a lot,

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Speaker 2: like there's a lot of other ancillary stuff that is

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Speaker 2: going on with the Winter meetings, Like it's there's job fairs,

487
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Speaker 2: there's career expos there's you know, the people that the

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Speaker 2: traveling secretaries go to the Winter meetings because that's where

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Speaker 2: they all do their meeting, like the clubhouse attendants across this,

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Speaker 2: Like when I say everyone in baseball goes to the

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Speaker 2: Winter meetings, everyone in baseball goes to the Winter meetings,

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Speaker 2: maybe minus the players, but even some players will show

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Speaker 2: up to the.

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Speaker 1: Inner meetings as well. So the GM meetings is just

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Speaker 1: a little more low key. MLB obviously like puts it

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Speaker 1: on like it's not as if it's disorganized, but MLB's

497
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Speaker 1: pretty hands off of just like the only formal stuff

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Speaker 1: we the media had here was, like I said, those

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Speaker 1: two media availabilities on those two days at the winter meetings,

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Speaker 1: like they've got it down to like this time, this

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Speaker 1: manager's going in this room like it's very organized and

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Speaker 1: thought out. So it's just on a bigger scale and

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Speaker 1: more people. That's basically the biggest difference.

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Speaker 2: When we talk about Scott Boris.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, I know people love that.

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Speaker 2: What does he smell like?

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Speaker 1: I don't get that close to him because I've seen

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Speaker 1: those scrums, Like there's one hundred people around, I'm not

509
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Speaker 1: getting that close.

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Speaker 2: I to me, it seemed like he would you could

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Speaker 2: tell when he walked down a room, like you could

512
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Speaker 2: smell it as he's coming. He seems like a guy

513
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Speaker 2: that would have very loud cologne.

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Speaker 1: This story was told at the bar last night, actually,

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Speaker 1: and it's hilarious. So Dave Dombrowski, the president Baseball Operations

516
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Speaker 1: of the Phillies, he famously wears a very strong smelling

517
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Speaker 1: cologne and apparently that has been his trademark since he

518
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Speaker 1: broke into the game. Why do we know that? Because

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Speaker 1: this story was recounted last night. In twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: Phillies Astros World Series, Justin Verlander was doing his pre

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Speaker 1: start press conference the day before Game one. Dave Dombrowski

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Speaker 1: famously used to work for the Tigers, used to be

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Speaker 1: Justin Verlanders boss. Dave stopped in the press conference room

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Speaker 1: because he was in the hallway, just to shake Justin's

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Speaker 1: hand on the podium, just like, hey, Justin, good to

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Speaker 1: see you. How's a family everything. And it was in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the press conference. All the reporters were

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Speaker 1: in there, and the minute Dave left the stage, Justin

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Speaker 1: just sits down and goes man, He's still wearing the

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Speaker 1: same cologne. And you gotta remember Justin was a Tiger

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Speaker 1: and win two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 1: and this was twenty twenty two. So Dave Dombrowski is

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Speaker 1: the king of Colonnes.

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Speaker 2: Now rules that's awesome.

535
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: Is the king of wordplay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want I want to write those for him

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Speaker 2: next year. I want to be a part of the

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Speaker 2: writing team. There's no way he's doing this himself. He's

539
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: got to have a squad that's writing these. I give me,

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Speaker 2: give me some of them. My favorite that I saw today.

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Speaker 2: You can you can start pulling up some Boris quotes

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Speaker 2: in the background. Can you find the one about Ranger Suarez.

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Speaker 2: That one was good.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I liked so I was. I was a little

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Speaker 1: preferential to the uh, the Terrek Barrick in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: I could not get that.

547
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: I I the Tigers want to build a Terrek Barrick,

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Speaker 1: and and uh Little Caesars are running around saying SISI

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Speaker 1: it should be noted that, uh, the owner of the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Tigers is Chris Ilich. Yeah, and they made their

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Speaker 1: fortune on Little Caesars. They are the they're the Little

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Speaker 1: Caesars people. I cannot find a comprehensive list of all of.

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Speaker 2: Scott's okay, let me read you here.

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Speaker 1: And also the You're gonna You're gonna hate me for this.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen top Gun, so all of the Cody

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Speaker 1: Bellinger top Gun references went way over my head.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen top Groun Maverick.

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Speaker 1: I've not seen any of the Top Gun French.

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Speaker 2: You should watch Top Gun Maverick. Top Top, I mean,

560
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: top Gun is a classic, obviously, but Top Ground Maverick

561
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: rules like it's it's really really good.

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Speaker 1: You would like that movie.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Anyway, here's Scott Worris on rangers for as true

564
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Speaker 2: four pitch command. He's really what you'd call the zone ranger.

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Speaker 2: That's good. I mean, that's a that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are, you know, you kind of roll

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Speaker 2: your eyes out him. That's that's solid.

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Speaker 1: The bregmant one was also very, very good. He started

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Speaker 1: by talking about how the Red Sox before Bregman got there,

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Speaker 1: had some do not holes in their lineup and they

571
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Speaker 1: were dunking below the playoff level. But you have to

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Speaker 1: give the Red Sox owner's credit. Boris said in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five they went out to spend some Starbucks to

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Speaker 1: bring in a Bregman blend that led them to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the Boston fans don't want this just to

576
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Speaker 1: be a cup of coffee, and no one wants a Brexit.

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Speaker 2: There's so many mixed metaphors in there and mixed references.

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00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: We gotta shorten that up, get it cleaner. But again,

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Speaker 2: does this not sound like my Twitter feed? Like these

580
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: are the jokes that I would rule at this I

581
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: sincerely want to be a part of that next year.

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Speaker 2: I will do it for free. I just want to

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Speaker 2: be a part of the writing process next season. So

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Speaker 2: if he needs me to send in some joke packets,

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00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: I'm happy to do that. But I want to be

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Speaker 2: a part of this next year. So if you can

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00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: get that message to him, let him know I am interested.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's a listener, Maybe he's listening to.

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Speaker 2: This was fromber there or his agent?

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Speaker 1: He was no fromber was. I did not see him,

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Speaker 1: but enough people, enough of like my colleagues, and enough

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Speaker 1: people saw it, like, yes, he was here to meet

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Speaker 1: with teams, and they're.

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Speaker 2: Sure, wasn't someone from Predator bad Land. Apparently his hair apparently, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he cut his hair.

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Speaker 1: Cut his hair. So because that's what one of my

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Speaker 1: coworkers today like, he was like, I think I just

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Speaker 1: saw Valdez, but he didn't have the hair extensions. I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh he cut It's like, okay, it was

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent now yeah. Yeah. So it's not uncommon,

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Speaker 1: like I said, for players to go to the winter

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Speaker 1: meetings and meet with teams. That usually doesn't happen at

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Speaker 1: the GM meetings. I'm not I don't know for certain

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Speaker 1: why Fromber was here. I have a very very educated

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Speaker 1: guess as to why from Beldez was here to meet

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Speaker 1: face to face with some teams just because you know,

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Speaker 1: he wanted to go to Nobu Nobu Carbone another another

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Speaker 1: nice one, MoMA Fuku he's there. I'm sure Fromber is

609
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Speaker 1: a huge foodie. He probably did that after going to

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Speaker 1: meet with these teams who probably had some questions just

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Speaker 1: about everything that happened last year. So it was probably

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Speaker 1: that was that was good. That was good agent ing

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Speaker 1: by his agents to get him here, get him in

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Speaker 1: front of teams. From what I have heard, apparently they

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Speaker 1: his agency has made video a video like explaining who

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Speaker 1: Fromber is kind of trying to get people a little

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Speaker 1: bit off of the main talking point or points that

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Speaker 1: come up with Fromber sometimes. So I mean, I hope

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Speaker 1: for his sake it went well that you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: when he gets in front of these gms, they have

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a different uh, have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a different view maybe than what they say

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Speaker 1: saw on one pitch against the Yankees at one time.

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Speaker 1: But you know, good for Fromber. Hey, you got a

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00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: couple of days in Vegas too, So Fromber in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: what could go wrong?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, there we go. Uh. I mean, maybe he

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Speaker 2: got his meetings crossed up?

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Speaker 1: Are you are you doing this to avoid talking about

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Speaker 1: Cam Smith?

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Speaker 2: Look, I welcome all challenges and so I will take

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Speaker 2: this with a stone face and bravery here, so hit

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00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: me with the bad news.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was honestly the most newsworthy and revealing

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Speaker 1: thing that Dana said in the In the thirty five

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00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: minutes we talked to him today, he talked about the

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Speaker 1: genesis of this. It started with Dana said, we need

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Speaker 1: to firm up our outfield, just in terms of you know, production,

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00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: everything like that. Only five teams last year had a

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00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: lower OPS from their outfield than the Astros. So yes,

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00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: they need to firm up their outfield. Part of that

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00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: was Jake Myers blew his calf out and came back

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00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: too quick. Part of that was Jordan Alvarez only played

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00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: in forty eight games. Part of that was Chas McCormick

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00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: gave you nothing. Part of it was a sus Sanchez

646
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Speaker 1: came over the deadline and gave you less than nothing.

647
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: And part of it was that Cam Smith had a

648
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: four ninety OPS after the All Star break. And in

649
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: talking about the outfield, you know, Dana was asked whether

650
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: Cam Smith they were entering the offseason as if Cam

651
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: Smith was their everyday right fielder, and he he was diplomatic,

652
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: but he said in no uncertain terms that he is

653
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: not guaranteed a roster spot as the Astros go to

654
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: spring training. And I think that in and of itself

655
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: is not It didn't like startle me because if you

656
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: look at the stats, and I mean we talked about

657
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: like he probably should have been the minor leagues in

658
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: August of last year, but the injury situation and the

659
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: fact that they had no one else they kind of

660
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: had to keep him up. Where it kind of where

661
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: it kind of startled me was just that the way

662
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: with which this team has talked about Cam Smith for

663
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: the last twelve months, you know, the expectations they put

664
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: on him, how bullish Dana Brown has been about him,

665
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: how everyone has talked about this guy and his ability

666
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: and the superstar level. To hear that it has now

667
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: gotten to that position where, like, you know, they still

668
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: certainly have confidence in him. Don't get me wrong, and

669
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: I'll read some of Dana's quotes just so we can

670
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: get some context here, but they're confident and they want

671
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: him to bounce back, and they think they can that

672
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: he can make the adjustment. But Dana's quote today was

673
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: I would think he comes back and tries to play

674
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: with more consistency and makes the necessary adjustments. But we

675
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: have to be open to sending him back to Triple

676
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: A if he hasn't turned the corner. The talent is

677
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: off the charts. He could be a star one day.

678
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: We all know that we saw glimpses of it late

679
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: last year. But we're just gonna need him to be

680
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: more consistent, which is totally understandable. What I wonder is

681
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: how does this impact their offseason, like because if they're

682
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: not if they don't have Cam Smith penciled in as

683
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 1: the right fielder, does that increase the chances that they

684
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: do keep hay Sus Sanchez around and hope that he

685
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: can turn it around and it was a bad two months.

686
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: And does it increase the chances that they go out

687
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: and look for an outfielder. Is that now become where

688
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: they maybe target a position player in the outfield? What

689
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: does it mean if teams are calling on Jake Myers,

690
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: Because I'm here to tell you teams are calling about

691
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: Jake Myers. He has a ton of value. I think

692
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. The Ashers wouldn't get a king's ransom

693
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: for him, but they'd get a pretty They could do

694
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: a pretty nice little trade. If Jake Myers has included

695
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: in it, does that prevent them from doing that? Zach

696
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: Cole got a ton of mention from Dana Brown today,

697
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: unprompted a lot and all this. Does he have maybe

698
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: a more increased role. I just think it opens up

699
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: a lot of questions that maybe I wasn't asking myself

700
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: going into the to the winter.

701
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, it boils down to you've got one

702
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: outfield spot up for grabs. You know, Al two Van

703
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: Alvarez are gonna be sharing left field. Jake Myers is

704
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: in center. I forgot Jesus Sanchez was still technically an astro.

705
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: So when you said that, it was a it was

706
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: a shock for me. But uh, I think what he's

707
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: saying is we're not gonna hold We're not gonna keep

708
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: cam Smith in the majors if he's not starting. So

709
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: if Zach Cole comes in and hits four fifty in

710
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: spring training and hits nukes like he did at the

711
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: end of last year, he's gonna be the starter in

712
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: right field and we're not gonna Cam Smith isn't the

713
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: the fourth out. I think that to me, that's what

714
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: it sounds. More like like you got to earn a

715
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: starting spot, but if not, we want you to develop

716
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: still and go down. What did you read into it?

717
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: You know? I Dana is and I wrote this, and

718
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: when I wrote on the Athletic this tonight, Dana as

719
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: a scout, as a talent evaluator for his whole career,

720
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: Dana is very infatuate. Infatuated, it's the wrong word. Dana

721
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: values on field performance. He values what he sees with

722
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: his eyes done on the field. Why did Cam Smith

723
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: make the opening day roster last year? Because he was

724
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: the best hitter in the grape Fruit League for five

725
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: weeks And we talked about how that could have been

726
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: misleading and how he wasn't facing you know, major league

727
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: quality arms, but he just kept doing it, kept doing

728
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: it to the point where Dana, you know, Dana went

729
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: against maybe some people in his own front office that

730
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: were like, hey, you know, this has been great and all,

731
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: and he's going to be a stud one day, but

732
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: he probably needs to be seasoned a little bit. Dana

733
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: has the authority to make the roster. You know, he

734
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: valued the on field performance. It's why Zach Dezenzo also

735
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: made the opening day roster because he had an incredible

736
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: spring too. I just wonder if that's good logic because,

737
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, like if Zach Cole goes to

738
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: the Great Fruit League this year, which he has never

739
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: been in the Great Fruit League because he's never been

740
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: in big league camp, if he goes and has a

741
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: cam Smith style spring and we're they're in the same

742
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: situation with him, they put him on the roster and

743
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: then he's scuffling in June because he just destroyed low

744
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: A pitching and Great Fruit League play for five weeks. Like,

745
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: I don't know that the logic should be you win

746
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: a job in spring. I think they are this is

747
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: my opinion. I think if that is the way they go,

748
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: they are overvaluing spring drinking, because you know, guys go

749
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: to spring like Great Fruit League play and the what

750
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: you face. It's just it's a different sport, it's a

751
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: different way of things. And we talked about it when

752
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: Camp was doing well, we talked about it all through

753
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: spring training. I just think that's not that is not

754
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: the way I would do it. I would not I

755
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: would go into it. And certainly on field performance has

756
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: to matter, Like certainly it has to matter. But I

757
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 1: think if Cam Smith goes to spring training this year

758
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: and shows that you know, he's swinging less, or he's

759
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: going up the middle more, he's going the other way more,

760
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: which is when he's really good with his contact point,

761
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: if they see the adjustments they want, but he has

762
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: a five hundred ops and Great Fruit League play, like,

763
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: I think it should mean more that he's made adjustments

764
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: than the stats in Great Fruit League play.

765
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: So that's kind of work.

766
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: That's where I am.

767
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: I didn't mean actually spring training stats, that's that's not

768
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: what I meant. What I meant is how they look

769
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: for those six weeks or whatever, not even just like

770
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 2: you say in the actual games or whatever. But look

771
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: if I mean, they don't matter if they're closed. But

772
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: if Cam Smith hits one hundred and strikes out every

773
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: other bat and Zach Cole has fifteen home runs in

774
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: a month, like, yeah, he's going to be starting. And

775
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: like I said, I to me, it's more of if

776
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: he is not the everyday starter for sure locked in,

777
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: you don't want to carry him as a fourth outfielder.

778
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: You'd rather him get every day at bats and he's

779
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: still twenty three or whatever, you know, like, if there's

780
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: not a place for him every day on the major

781
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: league team in April, he doesn't need to be on

782
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: the bench for those games.

783
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm maybe I'm paraphree, maybe I'm thinking about

784
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: this too much. Maybe this is like galaxy brain thought.

785
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: But part of me wondered whether that what Dana said today.

786
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: And again it's not as if he was demeaning or

787
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: dissing or sounded unhappy with Cam Smith. But I wonder

788
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: if part of it too was like maybe a little

789
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: bit of a challenge just to be like you know,

790
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: because I mean, look like I don't know if Cam

791
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: Smith's reading, but like it's going to get back to

792
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: cam Smith.

793
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: I bet he can read.

794
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure he can. When you take him to the zoo,

795
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: you'll figure it out.

796
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: But unlised the education, he definitely can.

797
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: But it's going to get back to him. And again,

798
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: the one thing about Cam Smith that I think this

799
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: won't do, like this is not gonna mess with his

800
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: head like he is. His makeup is so off the charts,

801
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: and we talked about it last year as he was struggling,

802
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: just the way he still continued to carry himself the

803
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: way he talked about struggling, the way he does everything

804
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: the right way, Like this is not going to be

805
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: one of these things that this is going to be

806
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: what you know, ruins his head or like makes him

807
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: put too much pressure on himself. Like, but I do wonder,

808
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: I do wonder if part of it was, you know,

809
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: Dana trying to catch his attention a little bit, be like, look, man,

810
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: like we believe in you, like we we really really

811
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: think you're good. Like we didn't. I didn't call you

812
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: an aircraft carrier for nothing. But you know, at some

813
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: point and I wrote this, like you can have all

814
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: the prospect status and all the nicknames you want, but

815
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: it's a game of production, like he got a and

816
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: if that doesn't happen, then the Ashers will have a

817
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: lot of questions to answer how they can figure their outfield.

818
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't seem like the type of guy that

819
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: thought that he had a guaranteed roster spot. Anyway, I'm

820
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: sure if you'd asked him right before Dana said that,

821
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: you know, do you are you the starting write, I'm

822
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: sure he would say the same thing. I got to

823
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: earn it every day, you know something to that extent,

824
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: he doesn't seem like the type of guy that is

825
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: going to be hurt by by this. I'm sure he

826
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: was thinking along those lines anyway.

827
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: No, but it's again I think the juxtaposition of going

828
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: from like they were calling this kid an aircraft carrier,

829
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: like the day after they acquired him, they put him

830
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: on the roster as a twenty two year like usually

831
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: usually when it's to this extent, like you're riding with him,

832
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: like you're like you're taking the good and the bad,

833
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: like you know, this is our guy, Like we're riding

834
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: with him through the good, the bad, the ugly, like

835
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: we're here to nurse him through all. Like to hear

836
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: it now be down to this level where it's like, yeah,

837
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, if it doesn't look good, then like we

838
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: we got other options. Like it it's it is. It

839
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: was a little bit sobering to see that kind of

840
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: a an about face. And again Cam can solve all

841
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: this by like have like going to spring training and

842
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: just showing out. But it's certainly it's something that Dane

843
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: is not speaking out of tourney obviously, like this is

844
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: something that They're really gonna have to consider if he's

845
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: If he comes to spring training and it doesn't look better,

846
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to think. And I wonder how that's

847
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: going to influence what they do this offseason, because if

848
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: they get three weeks into camp and it's like, oh,

849
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: this doesn't look any better, and they're not gonna put

850
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: him on the roster, like they got to have someone

851
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: there to play right field. And that's why I wonder, like,

852
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: does it mean, hey, sus Sanchez is back. Does it

853
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: mean Zach Cole is like make a more prominent role.

854
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's a lot of fascinating questions.

855
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: Well, good thing you're there to ask him, Chandler, where

856
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: do you eat today? Have you Have you had a

857
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: good meal while you're out there yet?

858
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: There's so we did carbon Own a few coworkers and

859
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: I did Carbone on Monday night and it was exquisite.

860
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: The second time I've been it was exquisite, well done.

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Speaker 1: There's a secret pizza place in the Cosmo. It's if

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Speaker 1: you ever at the co If you ever at the

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Speaker 1: Cosmopolitan in Vegas, go to the third floor by Blue

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Speaker 1: Ribbon Restaurant. There's a little opening in the wall, and

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Speaker 1: if you just walk through the opening, there's like a

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Speaker 1: New York style pizza place in the back. You can it's.

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Speaker 1: I had that for lunch. There's an egg Slut in

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Speaker 1: the Cosmo. I had that for breakfast. I had an egg,

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Speaker 1: a sausage, egg and cheese from egg Slut. It's excellent.

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Speaker 1: Momofuku has like a sandwich and bowl place in the

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Speaker 1: in the courtyard of the in the food court at

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Speaker 1: the Cosmo. Had that one day. It's been a nice

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Speaker 1: They should do it in Vegas every year. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of walking, though my feet are killing me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a ton of walking. Like you, you stand a lot

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Speaker 1: at these meetings no matter what, no matter what city

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Speaker 1: they're in. But for those of you that like know Vegas,

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Speaker 1: like I'm at New York, New York, and these meetings

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Speaker 1: are at the Cosmo, like, that's not It's not far

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Speaker 1: by any stretch, but it's a hefty little walk and

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Speaker 1: I have to do that walk plus walk up and

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Speaker 1: down the Cosmo a bunch. It's I've gotten more steps

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Speaker 1: in than I than I ever envisioned.

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Speaker 2: Hearing you talk about Vegas must be what you feel

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Speaker 2: like when me and Josh talk about Disney and Pokemon

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Speaker 2: correct just eyes glazed over, like I know a lot

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Speaker 2: of these words. I can't picture a thing that you're saying.

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00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: Y'all should have seen it. After our last episode, we

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Speaker 2: have to like sit in here for it to upload,

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Speaker 2: and Maverick, Josh's son came in and was playing Pokemon

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Speaker 2: on the switch and I walked him through exactly where

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Speaker 2: to walk in the Veridian forest to get up to

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Speaker 2: face Brock from memory. It was beautiful and Chandler just

894
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Speaker 2: did it exactly what he just did, just glazed over,

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Speaker 2: not interested. But I was a hero. So that's all

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Speaker 2: the matters there.

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Speaker 1: I will say, not even not even just this trip,

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Speaker 1: but like my last couple of trips to Vegas, it

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Speaker 1: is like and maybe you can relate to this, Like

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Speaker 1: it has startled me how many like families are here

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Speaker 1: like that have kids that are like your kids's age,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, why in the world would you bring

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Speaker 1: like they have like shows year old kids. I'm like, like,

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Speaker 1: I mean I get it, Like there's stuff for kids,

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Speaker 1: like you take them to Circa Sola, Like there's shows here,

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Speaker 1: and like it's not all gambling and alcohol and adult things.

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Speaker 1: But like I'm just I was like, this was a

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Speaker 1: family vacation spot, like Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, there you go?

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Speaker 1: Are you taking your kids to Vegas?

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Speaker 2: No, There's so many other places that I'd rather go

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Speaker 2: with kids, Like, that's not exactly that's there's like a

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Speaker 2: hundred other places that I would. It's not that I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't do. Like I if if I had a work

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Speaker 2: trip or something and I could bring my family out,

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Speaker 2: I probably would, just because there's a bunch of things

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Speaker 2: to do. But no, if I'm like paying for and

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Speaker 2: planning a trip, I'm definitely not Vegas of.

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Speaker 1: Course, and that that maybe where I should come from.

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Speaker 1: Is like I see it, I'm like the beach, like

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Speaker 1: take your kid to the beach, take your kid to

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Speaker 1: Disney World, like Vegas? Really yeah? If you ever, if

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Speaker 1: you're listening and you took your kids to Vegas on vacation,

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Speaker 1: I promise, like I'm not looking down on you. I

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Speaker 1: just have a lot of questions. These things you think

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Speaker 1: about on these long walks between the Cosmo and New York.

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Speaker 1: New York Christmas is they have Christmas decorations kind of

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Speaker 1: starting to come up here. Christmas is around the corner

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Speaker 1: you can shop Crush City Territory Shop dot com. Anything

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Speaker 1: you want pretty pretty reasonable price wise, especially when you're

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Speaker 1: thinking about other things you're gonna get. But you know

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Speaker 1: you can get backpack, hoodie, T shirt, trucker hat, regular

933
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Speaker 1: hat that Tyler's wearing, have lightweight hoodies, have coffee mugs,

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Speaker 1: have water bottles, have a bunch. If you're watching on

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Speaker 1: YouTube right now, you can and the QR code to

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Speaker 1: go to Crush City Territoryshop dot com and shop all

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Speaker 1: your merch. Like I said, Tyler's got one of the

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Speaker 1: hats on.

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Speaker 2: So it's perfect lightweight hoodie season right now where it's

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Speaker 2: like sixty five seventy five and sunny, so you like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you want a little bit of the hood

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Speaker 2: and the long sleeves, but you don't want it to

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Speaker 2: be too hot. I've been wearing mine most mornings when

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Speaker 2: I'm walking after I dropped the kids off, and it

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Speaker 2: is perfect.

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Speaker 1: I wore mine, like my last name, my last name

947
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Speaker 1: before I flew to Vegas, like I wore. I wore

948
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Speaker 1: my lightweighthood I wore around like when I was running

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Speaker 1: errands and stuff. It was it was perfect. I highly

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Speaker 1: recommend the lightweight hoodie at Crush City Territory shop dot com.

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Speaker 1: Presuming I make it out of my last night of

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Speaker 1: Vegas Live, we'll be back this weekend, probably Sunday, to

953
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Speaker 1: talk about maybe some other stuff that we didn't hit

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Speaker 1: from Dana today because he taught for forty minutes, like

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Speaker 1: he said, a lot. I'll have some more content coming

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Speaker 1: in the new couple of days too that we can you.

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Speaker 1: We analyzed a little bit more, but until then, you

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Speaker 1: can follow me on X at Chandler Underscore Room. You

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Speaker 1: can follow at Tyler c Stafford. As always, rate and

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Speaker 1: review us on Apple and Spotify. You can subscribe to

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Speaker 1: the Crush strated here to our YouTube channel so you

962
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Speaker 1: can get notified every time we post a new podcast.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, we'll be back on Sunday night to

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Speaker 1: talk about some things we may have missed, some new

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Speaker 1: GM meetings, Intel, whatever we have. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: then and thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go see the o Hello's at the House

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Speaker 2: of Blues tonight probably Thursday night, the thirteenth. If you're

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Speaker 2: into like Mumford and Sons and kind of folky like

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Speaker 2: rock music, they're great and one of my buddies is

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Speaker 2: in the band, So I'm going, so come say hi bye,