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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm for it.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: And them and tie Dan. The College Football Transfer Portal

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Speaker 1: an already crazy seventy two hour stretch in the great

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Speaker 1: top of it. Good sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, tye. And the portal has been unofficially open

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Speaker 2: for a year. You know, it's It's one of those things.

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Speaker 2: And we got some artful reporting these past couple of

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Speaker 2: And of course if your coach leaves or gets fired,

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Speaker 2: at your earliest convenience. So we've seen some of that,

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Speaker 2: be it with Duke players, be it with Michigan State players,

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Speaker 2: and so certainly there are different rules for different people

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Speaker 2: as we record this a pretty exciting morning. We're recording

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Speaker 1: We will talk about some of those names that made

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Speaker 1: This is the first transfer portal period, right and to

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Speaker 1: talk through what that means from a winners and losers perspective.

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Speaker 1: Of course, there's opt out and all these transfer things

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Speaker 2: Right because if you've grown to expect tear run defense

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Speaker 1: I think, let me ask you this, and I know

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Speaker 2: the program, these coaches have to speed date as soon

438
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Speaker 2: as they get hired their entire roster to keep them

439
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Speaker 2: interested and to keep them around and to keep that

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Speaker 2: sort of roster spot warm. So that's I mean, one

441
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Speaker 2: of the loser types in this one, although you know,

442
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Speaker 2: as the chief loser officer. Let me run through these

443
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Speaker 2: real quick ty schools with high academic standards. Yeah, I

444
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Speaker 2: mean Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Stanford, Notre Dame, all those types of schools.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Notre Dame to a lesser extent because they are

446
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Speaker 2: a power for a reason.

447
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Speaker 1: But it's just.

448
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Speaker 2: Harder to get a wider swath of players into school,

449
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Speaker 2: and it's just going to be more difficult, especially with

450
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Speaker 2: the academic calendar players who feel the need to leave

451
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Speaker 2: a place for financial reasons but not necessarily football ones.

452
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Speaker 2: You're like, I gotta go. I don't want to go,

453
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Speaker 2: like being here in Columbia, Missouri. I like being here

454
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Speaker 2: in Piscataway.

455
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Speaker 1: But somebody said that.

456
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Speaker 2: But I could use five hundred grand, Yeah right exactly

457
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Speaker 2: where Maybe there's pressure or whatever schools looking to evaluate

458
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Speaker 2: new coaches. I have no idea if such and such

459
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Speaker 2: coach it like is Clarkly a good head coach, maybe not,

460
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Speaker 2: but he just lost thirteen players, including three scholarship quarterbacks,

461
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Speaker 2: to the portal. It's just how do you evaluate mid

462
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Speaker 2: tier coaches when they just get demolished by the portal?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

464
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Speaker 2: And so like, you're a top school and you're like,

465
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Speaker 2: I think Mike Elco is good. I think Clarkly is good.

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Speaker 2: I think David Like, who's to say when you can't

467
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Speaker 2: maintain a roster and it's not really your fault. Assistants

468
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Speaker 2: looking to grow a position room and they just keep

469
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Speaker 2: losing guys, It's not great, and then your reputation and

470
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Speaker 2: ability to grow takes a hit. People who like upsets.

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Speaker 2: I wrote that the Richard just getting richer mid or

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Speaker 2: lower tier schools who develop good players coaches. This is again,

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Speaker 2: this is don't cry for the like the twelve million

474
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Speaker 2: dollars Harbaugh types I have written down here coaches and

475
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Speaker 2: personnel people who add quote, always recruit your own players,

476
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Speaker 2: to always recruit high school players, to coach football, to

477
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Speaker 2: manage human needs of existing players, staff, family, parents, etc.

478
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Speaker 2: It's just you're going to coach football worse because you

479
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Speaker 2: have all of these things on your plate all of

480
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Speaker 2: the time, or you're going to manage a roster worse

481
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Speaker 2: because you have all of these things out which you know.

482
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Speaker 2: Maybe there's a coming exodus to the NFL that will

483
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Speaker 2: we're too yet to see. But I just I think

484
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Speaker 2: it's a lot for these guys, and I think their

485
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Speaker 2: ability to manage a roster and coach football suffers because

486
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Speaker 2: of all of the moving pieces now involved with everything.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to get the verboler Hoods take on many

488
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Speaker 1: of the issues surrounding the transfer portal. This is of

489
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Speaker 1: course a very very contentious time of year. I mean

490
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Speaker 1: not to say that the past fourteen weeks weren't as well,

491
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Speaker 1: but with the portal, with guys leaving, you got all

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Speaker 1: sorts of opinions out there. Our email address is soliverbal

493
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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. You can always find us out

494
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Speaker 1: on social media. We do want to hear from you.

495
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Speaker 1: Let us know your thoughts on this. We'll read it

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Speaker 1: on one of our upcoming episodes. That being said, we

497
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Speaker 1: did call this one portal Steam.

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Speaker 3: Steam Portal Steam, So we got a bunch of names here,

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Speaker 3: and I'm curious from your standpoint of all the names

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Speaker 3: that we saw.

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Speaker 1: Now again, this is a living, breathing thing. Over the

502
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Speaker 1: next month, there will be new names that get added

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Speaker 1: on top of the names that we're gonna discuss today.

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Speaker 1: But of all the names that we know at time

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Speaker 1: of recording are in the portal, which ones to you

506
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Speaker 1: are the most intriguing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's essentially all of the quarterbacks because they

508
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Speaker 2: will have the biggest impact, just because it's the most

509
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Speaker 2: important position. And there are a number of receivers who

510
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Speaker 2: I think can add something dynamic to an offense. Certainly

511
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Speaker 2: there's a couple of at least a couple notable defensive

512
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Speaker 2: linemen at the top of you know this portal class

513
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Speaker 2: that could be instant impact type guys. But generally speaking,

514
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Speaker 2: if you're a you know, we'll use the Walter Nolan example,

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Speaker 2: I think it's R. J. Obin from Duke is another

516
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Speaker 2: well respected name in the portal. Right now, along the

517
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Speaker 2: defensive line rush, you can help an existing defensive line

518
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Speaker 2: by being excellent. You can help a defense by being excellent.

519
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Speaker 2: But typically speaking, you need like an entire defensive line

520
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Speaker 2: to really impact a game, and so having a brand new,

521
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Speaker 2: super improved quarterback like cam Ward could be for a

522
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Speaker 2: team or Dylan Gabriel could be for a team, or

523
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Speaker 2: Kyle McCord could be, or Aiden Childs, Dante Moore, any

524
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Speaker 2: of those guys I think is more meaningful. So from

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Speaker 2: like the most intriguing names standpoint, Aiden Chiles from Oregon

526
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Speaker 2: State is high up there because the eligibility he has

527
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Speaker 2: left at least two years left, if not like four

528
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Speaker 2: years left. Hardy Kylie regarded. I know the steam is

529
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Speaker 2: that he'll follow Jonathan Smith to Michigan State. He was

530
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Speaker 2: like kind of a plugin guy occasionally for Oregon State

531
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Speaker 2: on specific packages behind DJU, but his upside is thought

532
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Speaker 2: to be sort of off the charts. Dante Moore, who

533
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Speaker 2: we saw much more of at UCLA, but a former

534
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Speaker 2: bluest of blue chip quarterbacks uh, and he's thought of

535
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Speaker 2: to be heading back to the Midwest. He's from the

536
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Speaker 2: Detroit area, I believe, and so I think his upside

537
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Speaker 2: is obvious, though we did see some lower moments for him,

538
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Speaker 2: and again he has the upside of having years plural

539
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Speaker 2: of eligibility left. Walter Nolan, I think just because of

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Speaker 2: his physical upside, I mean even was he was all

541
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Speaker 2: world everything. Yeah, when he came out of high school,

542
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Speaker 2: he was the dude, and yeah, and he was one

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Speaker 2: of the anchors of a very good defensive front protector.

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Speaker 1: One of the anchors is a very good defensive front. Now,

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Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe he's gonna leave. I

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Speaker 1: find it hard to think he'll stay stick around with Elco.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like there's a chance, right, It

548
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Speaker 1: sounds like there's a chance. Elcho is a defensive minded coach,

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Speaker 1: and Elco everywhere he's been, he's been a very very

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Speaker 1: successful defensive minded coach and helped to recruit that class,

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Speaker 1: that helped the class. There's a familiarity there. Now Elijah Robinson,

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Speaker 1: who was you know, she recruiting extraordinaire for A and

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Speaker 1: M and of course defensive line coach. He has since

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Speaker 1: gone off to Syracuse. It would be a story you

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Speaker 1: and I were joking around about it if Walter Nolan

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Speaker 1: followed Elijah Robinson and Syracuse. Don't think that's about to happen.

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Speaker 1: But losing a guy like that who clearly connected with

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Speaker 1: the players, I think is something that Mike Elko is

559
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Speaker 1: going to have to absorb in part of his first season.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that has some impact here, but I'm not willing

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Speaker 1: yet to write Walter Nolan off because there still is

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Speaker 1: supposedly a lot of money. Now, Evan Stewart maybe doesn't

563
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Speaker 1: believe there's a lot of money, and maybe there isn't

564
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Speaker 1: as much as we think, but I got to believe

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Speaker 1: that there's going to be a strong pull to try

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Speaker 1: and keep Walter Nolan in college station. That'd be a

567
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Speaker 1: big loss if he ends up walking and going elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised he didn't mention Kyle McCord yet. Kalma Hord

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Speaker 1: is interesting.

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Speaker 2: So we got a little bit of pushback because I

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Speaker 2: asked the question during I think the Michigan game, like,

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Speaker 2: is comiccord the quarterback Whio State next year?

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Speaker 1: He doesn't seem to be up to the standard. And

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Speaker 1: then he left. It seemed universally celebrated online when the

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Speaker 1: new Ohio State people by Ohio State people universally celebrated

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Speaker 1: that he was in the portal. And that caught me

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Speaker 1: off guard because Colm McCord threw for over thirty one

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Speaker 1: hundred yards, he had twenty four touchdowns, six interceptions. Undeniably

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Speaker 1: if you look in terms of like quarterback rank, like

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Speaker 1: all these different statistical measures that we tend to use

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Speaker 1: to grade performance. Kyle McCord is a top twenty college

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Speaker 1: quarterback this season, and the reaction was universally, well, that's

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Speaker 1: not enough. Now, after watching Kyle McCord this season, I

584
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Speaker 1: can definitely say we had the same reaction. I almost

585
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Speaker 1: felt guilty about it. But going from Justin Fields to

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Speaker 1: c J. Stroud to Kyle McCord, you felt that drop off.

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Speaker 1: You felt it as you watched this version of Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: This is a system that is very quarterback focused. They

589
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Speaker 1: need someone who can give them more on the ground,

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Speaker 1: be more accurate with the football. That might explain or

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Speaker 1: that might describe every team in college football, of course,

592
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Speaker 1: but it caught me off guard. The Kyle McCord thing

593
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Speaker 1: caught me off guard, and there is a big part

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Speaker 1: of me that wonders if it says more about Ryan

595
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Speaker 1: Day than Kyle McCord.

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Speaker 2: It also likely says something about who Ohio State is

597
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Speaker 2: confident they've lined up to be their quarterback next year

598
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Speaker 2: as they transition. I think it's Aaron Nolan is the

599
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Speaker 2: big recruit coming in. That's right, so that they've lined

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Speaker 2: up somebody as a stop gap between Kyle McCord and

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Speaker 2: Air Nolan.

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Speaker 1: He just like they had a team of absolute killers

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Speaker 1: this year and a very good quarterback. Maybe not CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: maybe not Justin Fields, maybe not some of the others

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Speaker 1: that they've had in this long line of great college

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Speaker 1: quarterback never mind what they do in the pros. But

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Speaker 1: it's been a pretty good run here of quarterbacks at

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. If the only way you can win over

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Speaker 1: Michigan or get to the playoff off is with a

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Speaker 1: Heisman caliber quarterback, like, maybe you're not as good of

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Speaker 1: a coach as people think.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think a couple things gonna be true

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Speaker 2: at once. I think when you watch Kyle McCord play,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't just about the Michigan game. It was about

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Speaker 2: slow starts against a number of schools. I think, and look,

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Speaker 2: it's the job of Kyle McCord. It's a job of

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Speaker 2: Brian Hartline, it's the job of Justin Fry, the offensive

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Speaker 2: line coach. I also think is a coc Maybe I'm

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Speaker 2: wrong to best prepare Kyle McCord to succeed, And so

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Speaker 2: that means is he always in sync with his offensive line?

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Speaker 2: Is his offensive line doing him all of the favors

622
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Speaker 2: it could be doing. Is the rushing attack doing everything

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Speaker 2: it could be doing. Right, are the plays being called

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Speaker 2: to best complement Kyle McCord's ability, And I think the

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Speaker 2: smarter Ohio State fans out there are the more reasonable

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Speaker 2: Ohio State fans out there. We'll say that, yes, Kyle

627
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Speaker 2: McCord has his deficiencies, but this wasn't an exclusive McCord

628
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Speaker 2: issue with this offense. And I think it's right also

629
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Speaker 2: for Ohio State fans to want the team to adhere

630
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Speaker 2: to a certain bar or a standard. You have to

631
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Speaker 2: beat Michigan if you're Ohio State, of course, and you

632
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: have to have a crazy good offense. If Marvin Harrison

633
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Speaker 2: Junior is suiting up wearing your colors alongside a Mecca Abuka,

634
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Speaker 2: a healthy Travon Henderson, cade Stover, Julian Fleming, who, by

635
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Speaker 2: the way, is also in the portal like guys, I

636
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Speaker 2: think it's Carnel Tait, the promising freshman who is in

637
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Speaker 2: this year, like there is an expectation that you should

638
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Speaker 2: continue having a huge offense. And when you watch how

639
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Speaker 2: tentative at times Kyle McCord seemed or uncomfortable stepping into

640
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Speaker 2: the pocket at time, and I'm talking about Michigan, you

641
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Speaker 2: could be a Michigan State thing.

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Speaker 1: It could be a.

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Speaker 2: Wreckers thing, it could be a Maryland thing. Like I

644
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Speaker 2: understand the frustration, and you know, not being positive, you'll

645
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Speaker 2: do better. You know, there's steam on was a cam Ward.

646
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Speaker 2: He's one of the places is Ohio State and he's commanding,

647
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Speaker 2: and I don't use that in a negative way. You know,

648
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Speaker 2: seven figures somewhere maybe between two and three million dollars,

649
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Speaker 2: which you know you're worth whatever when anybody's willing to

650
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Speaker 2: pay you. But I was also a little bit surprised.

651
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Speaker 2: I felt like maybe with another full off season to

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Speaker 2: get into rhythm and maybe some improvements along the offensive line,

653
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Speaker 2: that given Ohio State's track record and developing guys, that

654
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: he could turn into something more dangerous.

655
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he's not a bad quarterback. He's not bad.

656
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: He's just not some of the other guys. And I

657
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: suspect I don't know that it was made clear to

658
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: him that they're going to seek other opportunities in the

659
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: transfer portal, that he was welcome to stay but wouldn't

660
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: be gifted the job. I understand that line of thinking.

661
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: He's got a pretty strong case to go out onto

662
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: the open market and see what other options are available

663
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: from the Philly area. Yes, from the Philly area. Up

664
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: went to the same high school as Marvin Harrison junior.

665
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: So we'll see if he decides he wants to go

666
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: closer to home or you know, there will be I

667
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: think plenty of suitors out there for Kyle McCord. It's

668
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: not like he had a bad season. He had a

669
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: pretty good season and you could obviously see him plugging

670
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: in almost anywhere.

671
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: That's a very Riley Leonard is interesting. By the way,

672
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 2: if we're going to stay in the Midwest, you.

673
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: Want to talk about steam, let's talk about steam. A

674
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: lot of steam on Riley Leonard to Notre Dame at

675
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: the moment, Yep, I don't know how I feel about it.

676
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it. It seems

677
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: like popular opinion is split down the middle. It depends

678
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: who you talk to. I talk to one person, they

679
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: tell me first round talent, first round talent, great athlete. First.

680
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: Hasn't committed to Notre Dame at the time of this record,

681
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: hasn't committed. Flirtations with teams like Auburn, a couple others

682
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: as well, all.

683
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: Sorts of flirtations out there per the twenty four to

684
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: seven Crystal Ball, they've got it at one hundred percent

685
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: to Notre Dame. So that's what we're going on. Obviously,

686
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: all the stuff is so object to change. Some guys

687
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: say first round talent, other guys say, not so sure,

688
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: he's that good. The selling point on Riley Leonard he's

689
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: a big kid, didn't have a great offensive line of

690
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: lone of them. Crazy athletic, crazy athletic, and we've seen

691
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: that over the course of his career. We've seen him

692
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: when a play breaks down, he's able to make something happen.

693
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: Drawbacks not always the most accurate drawbacks, I think limited

694
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: sample size drawbacks. You could say, now you know he

695
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: got hurt, he was out most of the season. Where

696
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: do we stand with Riley Leonard. I don't know. When

697
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: I heard that, there was a lot of steam on

698
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: him going to Notre Dame. Honestly, my my my response

699
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: was mixed. My bigger picture response was why does a

700
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: quarterback want to go to Notre Dame after what happened

701
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: to Sam Hartman.

702
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: That's probably well, that's the question. But is Riley Leonard

703
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: so good and so interesting that he can transform a team?

704
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: Or is Riley Leonard rate candidate to go to a

705
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: place that's kind of a quarterback away, that has receivers

706
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: in place, that has a scheme in place, that has

707
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: an offensive line in place, in a way that it

708
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: seems somewhat turnkey, that if he can stay healthy, that

709
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 2: it seems like all the tools are there to develop

710
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: into something interesting. And in this instance, if all of

711
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame steam is to be believed, is Notre

712
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: Dame that place.

713
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's a great passer. Okay, I'm not

714
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: sure he's a great passer. We know he's a great athlete,

715
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: and so either way, either way there's a fit for

716
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: that skill set. He's clearly very good. There's a reason

717
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: why he's at or near the tops of these transfer lists.

718
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: So he's not a bad player. I'm not suggesting that.

719
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: I just have some reservations. I'm not really willing to

720
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: jump in headfirst on the whole Riley Leonard thing. You know,

721
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: I think, by and large, I am very very nervous

722
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: about the Notre Dame offensive situation because we thought they

723
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: were a quarterback away this past season. They got Sam Hartman,

724
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: the line forgot how to block receivers weren't getting open

725
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: and Sam Hartman. Sam Hartman may have tanked this draft

726
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: stock by going to Notre Dame, and thus far, I

727
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: have not seen any movement, at least on the coaching

728
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: front that is inspiring me to believe that next year

729
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: is going to be any different now. If we still

730
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: have a situation a year from now at Notre Dame

731
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: where the line is not blocking as well and guys

732
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: aren't open, having somebody a little bit more fleet of

733
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: foot like Riley Leonard is definitely going to come in

734
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: handy more so than it was Sam Hartman. Sam Hartman

735
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: had to pull some of those plays out of his

736
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: hat in order to keep Notre Dame from losing more

737
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: games this season. Riley Leonard, if that comes more naturally

738
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: to him and some of that athleticism can be used

739
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: more readily and not like as desperation, that might be

740
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: a good thing for Notre Dame. I would like to

741
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: see them fire their offensive coordinator. I would like Jared

742
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: Parker to go in the tray answer portal. How about that? Okay,

743
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: that would make me feel better about whoever they end

744
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: up getting at the transfer portal, But go get Joe

745
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: Moorehead from Akron. Yeah. Sure, yeah, Joe Moorehead would be

746
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: great for Riley Leonard. Sure. I don't know if that's

747
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: gonna happen. We'll see.

748
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: No, how do you feel about cam Ward? I've probably

749
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: watched more of him. You've been super high on him

750
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: since he made his move from in Garnet Word to

751
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 2: Washington State.

752
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: This is true. I watched every cam Ward highlight, yeah,

753
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: before he took the before he took over as Washington

754
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: State quarterback. When he came over from the SCS ranks.

755
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: I watch every cam Ward highlight. I have been preaching

756
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: at the altar of cam Ward since he came over.

757
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: I definitely backed off of my enthusiasm after his first

758
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: season with Washington State. So I like cam Ward a lot.

759
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: Cam Ward was in a system this year that I

760
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: think gave us some taste of what he can do. Honestly,

761
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: when I saw that there was steam whereas there you go.

762
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: When I saw there was steam on cam Ward to

763
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State, that that for me was caused for pause

764
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: favorite pet charity in a good way.

765
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: No or no, you don't think he is of that level.

766
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: You don't think he would rise to that occasion.

767
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: I think cam Ward is a gifted athlete. I think

768
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: cam Ward can throw a deep ball really well. Yeah.

769
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: I think the Ohio State offensive system as it were,

770
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: and part of the reason why Kyle McCord is going

771
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: to be playing elsewhere is he was not accurate enough

772
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: for that system. I'm not sure accuracy is cam Ward's deal.

773
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that is his calling card. I don't

774
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: know anybody out there writing the article about cam Ward

775
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: being this precision passer. He's a crazy good athlete. He

776
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: can throw a good deep ball, but his mechanics are

777
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: a little wonky, and so to put him in that system,

778
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. To put him in that system, I

779
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: have some some reservations. Now. There is something to be

780
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: said for being surrounded by better talent, uh and being

781
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: put in a situation where that talent also makes you better.

782
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: That could be the case with cam Ward. He is

783
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: crazy gifted and I'm still a huge fan of his.

784
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if that I saw Ohio State and

785
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: I kind of took a step back, like, I don't know,

786
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: I don't I'd be curious to see how that goes.

787
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, so he he has had a couple of

788
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: different offensive coordinators at Wazoo. So it was but Ben

789
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: Arbuckle this past year, and I think it's the god

790
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: the Was it the North Texas coach or was he

791
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: a receivers coach.

792
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: I got to be prepared for these things.

793
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: I know.

794
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: It's been a couple of different guys. So he was

795
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: a gamer this year, whether it was against Wisconsin, weather

796
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: was against Oregon State, whether is against Oregon. We saw

797
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: him make plays, maybe miss a couple of big moments

798
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: against Washington in the Apple Cup. He is a quarterback,

799
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: and I think a very small group that has the

800
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: arm talent to throw for lack of a better term,

801
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: absolute dime that very few quarterbacks do.

802
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: He's got and so incredible arm talent, really good arm talent,

803
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: which is part of why I think people are so

804
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: excited about him.

805
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: Right.

806
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: It's just sort of like I rewatched a bunch of

807
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: the snaps from the Oregon game and just his ability

808
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: to fit the ball in two tight spaces or in

809
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: some cases loft it perfectly over a linebacker, over a

810
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: safety's fingertips or something like that, into the awaiting arms

811
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: of Josh Kelly or whoever who's also in the portal,

812
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: who is a transfer himself to Washington State. That the

813
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 2: dime upside of cam Ward makes him tantalizing enough to say,

814
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: with a better line, which I don't know if Ohio

815
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: State has in pass protection, but with a better line,

816
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: with higher level receiving talent, with a running game, which

817
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: he absolutely did not have at Washington State. That was

818
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: not a line opening up lanes at all.

819
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: He was.

820
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: Right, and so that he might have better creature comforts

821
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: at Ohio State, at Oregon or to State or any

822
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: of these schools that are in it for him, I

823
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: think is what makes the possibility of adding him pretty

824
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: crazy interesting. Also, you're comparing him against the competition, right,

825
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: so it's just you're not saying cam Orden is going

826
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: to be immediately Heisman caliber, But like, did we think

827
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: that about Jaden Daniels at Arizona State. No, the upside

828
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: was there, absolutely, and there was a ton that had

829
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: been going wrong for ASU on the sidelines, you know,

830
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: in the administration or whatever. I myself was Maybe it's

831
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: just because I'm dumb, but I was surprised that a

832
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: school like LSU would be in the Jadeen Daniels business.

833
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: I was super wrong because he's likely about to win

834
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: at the time, this recording Heisman Trophy for LSU. And

835
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: so the thought is, when we get him into a

836
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: more stable place. If you remember Washington State, right moving

837
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: on from Mike Leach Nick Rolovich, He's out pretty quickly.

838
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: And so there's all this roster and scheme turnover, and

839
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: that him going to a more stable situation would ring

840
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: out the best of him.

841
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I should also clarify his accuracy

842
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: has improved. Yeah, by leaps and bounds. That was initially

843
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: a pretty big weakness. He has gotten better as his

844
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: footwork has gotten better. He's another type that has some

845
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: crazy arm angles when he throws. He's another guy that

846
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: once he gets outside the pocket, he can do amazing

847
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: things and make defenders miss. He has not run first.

848
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: He is passed first. There's a lot to like about

849
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: his game. But he can run. Yeah, he can run.

850
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: He absolutely can run. He's got a big frame. There

851
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: are a lot of exciting things about his game. But

852
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: I just I feel like you want a precision passer,

853
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: and he's gotten better. He certainly throws a beautiful deep ball.

854
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's very fit.

855
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit surprised that Walker Howard hasn't gotten

856
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: more attention after what he did two years ago. Obviously

857
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: there was some down moments this year. Obviously there's a

858
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: young quarterback pushing him. They used Avery Johnson of Arry

859
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: Johnson in a number of big moments, red zone stuff

860
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: whatever as a run pass option. Not that you know

861
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: he is transferring, but that his name hasn't struck a

862
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: bigger chord as he wins the Big twelve, as he

863
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: looks great going downfield for k State two years ago,

864
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: and I don't know if there's something that's off about

865
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: him physically whatever that has scared people away. I saw

866
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: that Lincoln Riley I think met with him on behalf

867
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: of USC but I don't know. I just figured there

868
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: would be more interest given the number of teams that

869
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: you know, either need a stopgap or think they're a

870
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: quarterback away, and that he has that high upside.

871
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: There are a number of other names here, some of

872
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: which we can talk about in detail, but let me

873
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: just rattle some of them all. Wait, people a sense

874
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: for where the portal is at at time of recording.

875
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: This is just quarterbacks. I can talk through receivers and

876
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: some other position groups as well. Dylan Gabriel is in

877
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: the portal you mentioned is in the portal. Dylan Gabriel,

878
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: formerly of UCF, got hurt, went to Oklahoma good season.

879
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: There's steam on him maybe to Oregon, maybe to Mississippi

880
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: State to follow his former coordinator Jeff Levy, who got

881
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: the job there. Also, DJ you transferring out of Oregon

882
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: State second tour of duty now in the transfer portal,

883
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: there's steam on him potentially to Florida State back to

884
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: the acc man. That would be an interesting setup. And oh,

885
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: by the way, to the millions watching at home confused,

886
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: I believe you meant Will Howard, not Walker Howard.

887
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 2: Why did I say Walker Howard? I meant Will Howard

888
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: the entire time, and I was very stupid. You got

889
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: to correct me when I'm saying that Walker Howard won

890
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: a Big twelve title for Kansas State. Tye, it's on

891
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: you to say you mean Will Howard. Nu'mb nuts I

892
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: use that again. That's your fault.

893
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: Look, there are a lot of Dan Hayters out there.

894
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 1: I want to see you struggle. I am just their

895
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: representative in this moment in time. Yes, thank you. Also,

896
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: Walker Howard should probably be in the portal two at

897
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 1: this point. So that's why I didn't say anything right right.

898
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: Will Howard got his name in the portal right away,

899
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: right away, So whether he's talking to USC or anybody else,

900
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: he's a name that I think is intriguing. Will Rogers

901
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: frequently confused with Will Howard in college football. A lot

902
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: of steam on Will Rogers to Washington, which is an

903
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: interesting fit because of the system that he came from

904
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: under Mike Beach, which was the air raid and the

905
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Washington system, which might be a better version of that.

906
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: Certainly with like Roal madoons A and Jayleen McMillan and

907
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: Jalen Polk. Yeah, absolutely receivers.

908
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: So Will Rogers to Washington is maybe something we can

909
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: discuss some other names kind of just to rattle them off.

910
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 1: TVD Tyler van Dyke in the portal, Grayson McCall back

911
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: in the portal, don't blame him, Tyler Shuck's still playing,

912
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Shuks visiting Louisville. Max Johnson committed to North Carolina.

913
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: And then you mentioned some others, right, maybe not top

914
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: headline makers, but aj Swan from Vanderbilt talked about what

915
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: Clark Lee's got to deal with Morris from NC State,

916
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: Caten Hauser and Noah Kim, Sam Levitt and Sam all

917
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: those dudes. Yeah, they're all in. Hank Bachmeier back in

918
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: the portal, y Spencer Peatrice I saw committed to Utah State. Yep,

919
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Brock Vandergriff back up at Georgia besides former five star. Yeah,

920
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: he's going in the portal as a former five star.

921
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: And another name just because I love the FCS man

922
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: of the moment, Matthew Sluka from Holy Cross. I think

923
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: could be very, very good at the power five level.

924
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: I think he has a ton of promise. I am

925
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: curious to see the situation he ends up in because

926
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: I think he could be a catcher somebody. Well.

927
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: You also then have to factor in how many former

928
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 2: blue chip recruits, high level four star, five star kids

929
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: are willing to sit for two years and so like

930
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: with the announcement of Quin, you were as coming back

931
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty four season.

932
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: Arch.

933
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: What does that mean for Arch Manning? What does that

934
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: mean from Malik Murphy who showed some promise in a

935
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: backup role this year. You have Devin Brown at Ohio State.

936
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: Right if USC is having these conversations. Then that means

937
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: two years of sitting for I think it's Malachi Nelson,

938
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: the former highly touted recruit coming in and just like

939
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: Oregon in talking to Dylan Gabriel right, which to me

940
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: seems like a no brainer. Like I think he would

941
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: be a good fitted Oregon. You know, he needs to

942
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: win some bigger games. But beat Texas this year? What

943
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: does that mean for it? They have a freshman this year,

944
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 2: a blue chip Austin novasad. They've got Ty Thompson who's

945
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: been you know, waiting forever in the wings, a former

946
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: blue chip. What does that mean for a lot of

947
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: these programs that are trying to keep the room full

948
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: and deep, but at the same time, no, maybe the

949
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: guys that are there just don't have it to keep

950
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: us where we want to be.

951
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: What do you think about that dju steam to Florida State.

952
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: That's interesting to me because it sets up, of course,

953
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: the media narrative, which would be a chance to get

954
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: sweet redemption on Clemson. Sure, he seems pretty mild mannered.

955
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: He seems like he got his green is out in

956
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: the open as part of that profile he did before

957
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: this past season. That's an interesting fit do you like it?

958
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I do. Well.

959
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: They're measuring his skill and upside against other quarterbacks who

960
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: have either told Florida State or told somebody connected to

961
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: Florida State that they're interested. And so, look, the physical

962
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: talent is certainly there. He has big arm strength, he

963
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: can run. But I think he's fine. I don't think

964
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: he's really good. I think he's fine. I think if

965
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 2: you have a rushing attack like Oregon State did, if

966
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 2: you have good receivers, which I don't think Oregon State

967
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: necessarily did, he still needs to throw the ball on time.

968
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: He still needs to be accurate, and I still have

969
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: questions about that. But I think they Florida State just

970
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: lost AJ Duffy, who was a blue chip recruit a

971
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and so you need somebody. It

972
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: is musical chairs, and so if you don't feel like

973
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 2: the young guys are ready, and so that's what brock

974
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 2: Glenn right now doesn't appear to be ready to step

975
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: into a star type role at a place that is

976
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: built to go to at least a twelve team playoff.

977
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: Many would argue a four team playoff. Then you got

978
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: to get the best out there. That's interested in you,

979
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: and if that's only DJU, then so be it. I

980
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: think it would be like if if news were to

981
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 2: break as I'm finishing the sentence that it's a done deal,

982
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: it say it's like a B minus no. Yeah, and

983
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: you like the Dylan Gabriel potential at Oregon.

984
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

985
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm an untrustworthy homer, but he's accurate. He's

986
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: been around forever. This would be what his sixth seventh,

987
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: eighth year. I know we've only played three games in

988
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one and then was at Oklahoma for a

989
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: couple of years, but in terms of what they can

990
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: do and what they have, I think it's pretty good.

991
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: That's more BB plus to me. I don't think it's

992
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: a no brainer. You know, he's gotten injured, there have

993
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: been accuracy issues at times, you know, the big game issues.

994
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: But you know it's also the number one statistical offense

995
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: in America this past year. So he'd have line talent

996
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: in front of him. He'd have receiver talent that I

997
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: don't think he had at Oklahoma. He certainly didn't have

998
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: the run running back talent in Oklahoma that Oregon has,

999
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: so I think he would be more advantaged at this

1000
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: point in Dan Lanning Square than where he'd be in

1001
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: the got the Brent Venables offense. But I don't think

1002
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: it's a slam dunk, and I didn't think bout Nix

1003
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: was a slam dunk. I just think you're in an

1004
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: advantaged place if you go to a school like Oregon,

1005
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: a school like Ohio State, a school like Florida State, and.

1006
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: So I'm fine with it. I'm curious to see about TVD.

1007
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: I hope for his sake he's able to reboot his

1008
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: career somewhere because we, yeah on the northeast, all recognized

1009
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: that there was a lot of talent there. Grayson McCall

1010
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: is another interesting name to me. Grace McCall's really good

1011
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: in the Jimmy Chadwells system. Grace McCall not as good

1012
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: in the Tim Beck system. Has dealt with injuries, flirted

1013
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: with the Portal last season. Last offseason, decided to come

1014
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: back to Coastal. We'll see if he ends up going

1015
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: somewhere down in that quadrant region.

1016
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, it's Seth Latrell the new Yeah.

1017
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he was promoted from within offensive Coordinaya, Oklahoma

1018
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: and the thought is Jackson Arnold is gonna be the

1019
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: guy five star from last year that did Maybe he

1020
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: was not willing to sit for a couple of years.

1021
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: The only other quarterback of note that it did want

1022
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: to call out there. Yeah, Tyler Buckner has also entered

1023
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: the transfer portal as as a lacrosse athlete, Dan as

1024
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: a lacrosse athlete. As a lacrosse athlete. So you know what,

1025
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: Nick Saban scared him into switching sports via condos.

1026
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 2: I hope he becomes an incredible lacrosse star for somebody,

1027
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: and if that's his true calling, great that would be

1028
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: you know what, good for him? Yeah, man for not

1029
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: being afraid to pivot. I'm sorry he could. He could

1030
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: have landed somewhere interesting, maybe played some decent quarterback for somebody.

1031
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: But if it's hard is in lacrosse and he thinks

1032
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 2: that's his best shot to be happy as a college athlete,

1033
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: US great.

1034
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: It's awesome. Well, we wish him well, we wish him well.

1035
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how good he is at lacrosse, but

1036
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: if he's in the portal, I guess we're.

1037
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: So pretty good to just immediately say I'm switching sports. Yeah,

1038
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: I assume so are there. Like I think, receiver is

1039
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: always an interesting possession.

1040
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: So some receivers here. There's a long list of receivers.

1041
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's particularly difficult to find a receiver

1042
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: that can come to your school. Notre Dame. By the way,

1043
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be like that scene at the end

1044
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: of Independence Day where they go in the parking lot

1045
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: and look for pilots. That's where they're at with their

1046
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 1: receiver room. Everybody is transferring out.

1047
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: Tyler Buckner might be a lacrosse player slash receiver for

1048
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

1049
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Buckner could come back and maybe start as the

1050
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: three next season in that receiving flore They've got all

1051
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: sorts of transfers at Notre Dame, including Tobias Merriweather. He was,

1052
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: of course their big gun receiver that they brought on

1053
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: two seasons ago. Rico Flores is leaving there as well.

1054
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: I saw they had Chris Tyree who is leaving as well.

1055
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: They have freshmen who are leaving as well. It is

1056
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: deafin not a great situation for the Notre Dame receiver room. Elsewhere,

1057
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: They've got London Humphreys, Vanderbilt does van Ale. He will

1058
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: be sought after. Juice Wells, the standout receiver for South

1059
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: Carolina is in the portal. You mentioned Julian Fleming earlier

1060
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: from Ohio State. He is in there, as well as

1061
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: is Raymond Contrel from Texas A and M. We were waiting,

1062
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: I think, to hear more on the Evan Stewart front.

1063
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if that is a done deal. There

1064
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: have been flirtations there like maybe it could happen. We'll see.

1065
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: Josh Kelly you mentioned Josh Kelly earlier from Wazoo. Raleik

1066
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Brown from USC is an interesting name.

1067
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: Came in as a bluechip running back, moved to receiver,

1068
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 2: decided not to play this year until I guess sort

1069
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: of the end of the year. An interesting talent, of course,

1070
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: a lot of speed to burn.

1071
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: A ton of talent there. There's a whole host of

1072
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I don't know if there's any notables that

1073
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: I left off my list, right, Deon Burks, Dean Burdue

1074
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: from Purdue. Yeah, another good one.

1075
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple guys at you tap. I saw

1076
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: obviously when they move on from their head coach. They

1077
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: lost a ton to the portal. No Juice Wells is interesting.

1078
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: Obviously beat up this year and Xavier Leggett took a

1079
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 2: lot of the lot of the steam.

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Speaker 1: Tie you have the sound, I do have the steam.

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Speaker 1: Where's that? Thank you? Good call?

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00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,959
Speaker 2: But but Juice Wells seems to be on the level

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00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 2: of anybody who come in and make an immediate impact

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Speaker 2: and stretch the field.

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00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: Not a lot in the way of running back transfers.

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00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: I did see Treshawn Ward from Kansas State is back

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Speaker 1: in the portal. He came over from Florida State a

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00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: year ago. Yeah, DJ Giddens emerges for Kansas State now back.

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Speaker 1: Now back in the portal. And on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of things, we mentioned Walter Nolan on the line. We

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00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: mentioned r j Obin the edge rusher from Duke, but

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00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: Toreano Pride the cornerback from Clemson is a name Teddy

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00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 1: Buchanan the linebacker from UC Davis. Another name Kyle Kinnard

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Speaker 1: at the edge rusher from Georgia Tech. I think is

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00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: going to get some steam on him. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to play the sound.

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Speaker 2: Is there a defensive lineman from Penn Joey Sibin Joey

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00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: Slackman from Penn.

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Speaker 1: There's also a guy named Thor from Harvard. Yes it's

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00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: another name. I appreciate that, and uh another one from Vandy,

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00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: Nate Clifton, the defensive lineman I think, is going to

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Speaker 1: get some books as well. So we're starting to find

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00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: out more about the defensive side of this right now,

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00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: in the early going, most of the steam won't play

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00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: it again, I promise, is on the quarterbacks of some

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00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: of the skilled position guys. But we're starting to see

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00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: the roster of defenders build as well.

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00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking to be the next what Jared Verse? Right,

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00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: great Dane to Seminole. Yeah, look, here's the spoiler alert.

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00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 2: The rich are gonna get richer. That's that's what's gonna happen.

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00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: I don't mean to uh be a downer with that,

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00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: but largely speaking, the you know, the teams that can

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00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 2: afford to push somebody out to make room for a

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00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 2: new star linebacker what they're The linebacker from Maryland is

1115
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: also a huge deal, Jay, Shawn, you're gonna have that

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00:56:59,640 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: in front of you.

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00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: Pull it up.

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00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 2: He's going to have a lot of opportunities and another

1119
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: position where you can't just find those guys. I think

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00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 2: offensive line linebacker is going to be really tough to fill.

1121
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: So those guys, I mean, look, I'll be a homer again.

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00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: What Oregon was able to do in finding the Rhode

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00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: Island tackle a. Johnny Cornelius was enormous for this offensive

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00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: line this year. Boone Nicks was very clean all year long.

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Speaker 2: Who's the Maryland linebacker?

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Speaker 1: The marylyl linebacker is Jayshawn Barham.

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00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: Jayshawn Barram. Yeah, who came in and has been very

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Speaker 2: very good. And I saw Maryland writers talking about how

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Speaker 2: much of a loss He's going to be.

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Speaker 1: Big loss for the Turk's a big loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, They're all going to find their way to Texas

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Speaker 2: to Eugene, to Columbus, to Tuscaloosa, to Tennessee to wherever

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Speaker 2: Tallahassee and it'll make the top of the sport more interesting,

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Speaker 2: but unfortunately the rest not as much.

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Speaker 1: Can do it. It's free, Please do so. Two questions

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00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: that we got from the interwebs. Okay, this one from

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland bag man. Not sure if he's an actual bagman.

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Speaker 1: If so, yes, let's assume yes, this is a pretty

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Speaker 1: exciting time for him or her In the next ten years.

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Speaker 1: Will there be more national championships won by transfer quarterbacks

1166
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: or homegrown quarterbacks? Next ten years? Yeah, transfers. I think

1167
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: it's transfers, right, transfers. It does beg the question if

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Speaker 1: high school quarterback recruiting is now useless.

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: Well, okay, let's go through it. So this year's will

1170
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: how many transfers are in there? It's two and two

1171
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: quin yours and Michael pennockx quin.

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Speaker 1: You weers and Michael Pennix are the transfers. JJ McCarthy homegrown,

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01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Molrow homegrown, Jalen Moro home grown.

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01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: And the last few so Joe Burrow a transfer, Mac

1175
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: Jones homegrown. Stetson Bennett kind of both left and came back.

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Speaker 2: So who's to say we'll put that in a different

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01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: uh different bucket?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: Jake Koker was a transfer. I mean, we can go

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: back a bunch of years. I just think more and

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01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: more teams like Alabama, Ohio State you know that have

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01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: been perennial playoff type teams are going to be able

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01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: to throw so much money at somebody at a different

1184
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: place that's not going to be competing. Now it's a

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: twelve team situation, so more teams will feel like they

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01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: have a shot. And so maybe there's you know, more

1187
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: enthusiasm around collectives and stuff to keep a roster together.

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01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: But I lean transfer.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great question, and I do think

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Speaker 1: on some level this takes some of the steam. Won't

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01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: play the sound out of high school recruiting, because if

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Speaker 1: you are a program just sees Ohio State as an example,

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01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: you know what you got coming in. They're losing some guys,

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01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: and they're losing Evan Pryor as well, Like there are

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01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: some other names here on the Ohio State side that

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01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: we could read off. They're losing a fair amount of talent.

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01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: Justin fields transfer of national championship caliber.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, came to a hot site, right like Ohio State's

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Speaker 1: losing some guys. Those guys are going to be replaced

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Speaker 1: by top tier talent. I don't think it's going to

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01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: be like a speed bump for Ohio State. Maybe a

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01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: little bit of a speed bump at the beginning. They

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01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: got enough talent coming in. Ryan Day knows that he

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01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: knows the sports system around whoever ends up playing quarterback.

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01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: He also knows that whether it's cam Ward or Dylan

1206
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: Gabriel or any of these top names out there, he

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Speaker 1: knows that he's got tape. He can look at of

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Speaker 1: these guys playing against other Power five competition, which you

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Speaker 1: can't necessarily do if you're Georgia going out there hard

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01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: after Dylan Rayola, right, plays really really well at the

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Speaker 1: high school ranks. Obviously you want to have the guy

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Speaker 1: that's home grown. But on the other hand, we've got

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Speaker 1: this guy, we see tape, we see what he can

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Speaker 1: do against other Power five competition. I feel like it

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Speaker 1: makes it easier to handicap, makes it easier to understand

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Speaker 1: what the ceiling is, what you're going to get out

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Speaker 1: of a guy if you bring him on campus. So

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Speaker 1: from that standpoint, and to your point, if you've got money,

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Speaker 1: if you've obviously got a draw to bring in some

1220
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Speaker 1: of that top tier talent, it seems to me like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you still want to recruit at a really high level

1222
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Speaker 1: in the high school level, and if you need that guy, great,

1223
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Speaker 1: But if you're a top program, you're shopping for a

1224
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Speaker 1: quarterback every year man.

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Speaker 2: And it's easier to sell high school receivers, high school

1226
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 2: running back, high school anybody when you are also saying, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're bringing in one of the best five quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: the nation. Like you're not going to have to to

1229
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Speaker 2: like wait to develop because you're gonna be getting passes

1230
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 2: zipped to you by X, Y and Z or whatever.

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01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: Just I guess just X that there's an immediate selling

1232
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Speaker 2: point to a freshman receiver to contribute, to a freshman

1233
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: running back to contribute whatever, because you know you have

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Speaker 2: a quarterback who's so good that we're gonna be blowing

1235
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Speaker 2: out teams. You're gonna get a bunch of playing time

1236
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: in second halves. That kind of thing that it's just

1237
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: sort of is a rising tide. And all these schools

1238
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 2: are trying, right even though Stetson Bennett was the guy

1239
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 2: for Georgia. They bring in JT. Daniels because they think

1240
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: they need to improve. They bring in correct me if

1241
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, Jamie Newman, Wake Forest, Oh yeah from wake Forest. Sure, damn.

1242
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: That obviously doesn't work out. But like all of these

1243
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: places are trying via the portal to bring in guys

1244
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: even if a homegrown guy ends up working out. So

1245
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Speaker 2: it's fascinating you have Tyler Buckner Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't call him Randy Newman. That

1248
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: seems to be your thing.

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Speaker 2: I am just I am off tie. The season has

1250
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: taken a toll. It's been a long season. Second question,

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Speaker 2: thank you to the Cleveland Best and or woman whoever

1252
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: it is.

1253
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: And bag person. Yeah. Bag person Andy writes in says,

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01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: you are recruiting for Notre Dame and Oregon. You can

1255
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: choose one player from the portal a time of recording

1256
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: for your team next season. Who is it? Why? Who

1257
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: do you want for the portal or from the portal

1258
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: for Oregon that's already in the portal, that's already in

1259
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Speaker 1: the portal.

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01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Oregon's probably in pretty good shape defensively.

1261
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Speaker 2: Along the defensive line. They recruited really well. There a

1262
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: lot of big numbers there. Man, it's it's probably Dylan Gabriel.

1263
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: But like we can have an extended conversation about Dante

1264
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 2: Moore because the eligibility and the ceiling there.

1265
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Speaker 1: We didn't talk a whole lot about Dante more. No,

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01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: we didn't. I'm not ready. I'm not ready to give

1267
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: up on him.

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01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: I was ready to give up on bon Nicks, and

1269
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: so I think the situation is so much better. I

1270
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: think UCLA is limping into the Big Ten looking like

1271
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: the little Giants with how much their roster is turned over.

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Speaker 2: I think quarterback is such an enormous deal. This is

1273
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: not a take at all.

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Speaker 1: If you have your choice between Dylan Gabriel and Dante Moore,

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01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: do you go Dante Moore because you know you have

1276
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: at least two years of them? You go Dylan Gabriel

1277
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: because he's much more of a finished product.

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Speaker 2: I think I would go Dante Moore honestly, because I

1279
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 2: think a full off season. I mean, he was committed

1280
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: to Oregon forever, sure, and then when bo Nicks comes back,

1281
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: Ucla comes in with probably what I assume is a

1282
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: very healthy nil package and playing time opportunity. I think

1283
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: it was a terrible decision to go to UCLA and

1284
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: didn't have to go to Oregon. He could have gone

1285
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: to anywhere, Ohio State, Michigan, but and I think considering

1286
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 2: Notre Dame as well.

1287
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 1: But uh.

1288
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you you gamble on the upside at

1289
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: quarterback in a way that I think Dylan Gabriel's fine.

1290
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 2: I think he can go ten and two at Oregon.

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Speaker 2: Any cam Ward go ten into at Oregon. But I

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Speaker 2: think you got to say who can be awesome in

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Speaker 2: the big ten. Yeah, by the second half of next

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Speaker 2: year and twenty twenty five, and I think that's probably Dante.

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Speaker 1: More On the Notre Dame front, Yeah, I've said this

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Speaker 1: all year. I am. I am very perturbed that there

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Speaker 1: has not been any movement yet with the offensive coordinator job.

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Speaker 1: I'm perturbed that they haven't gotten rid of Jared Parker

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Speaker 1: yet because we were led to believe all season long,

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Speaker 1: as Notre Dame fans, that Notre Dame was a quarterback

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Speaker 1: away that was I mean, there was incredible hype on

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Speaker 1: Sam Hartman, and what I think we found at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day is, of course Sam Hartman wasn't

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Speaker 1: upgrade from what they've trotted out there the last couple

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Speaker 1: of seasons. Of course he was. But the offense, the line,

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Speaker 1: the whole scheme was out of sync to the extent

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Speaker 1: where it almost didn't matter who the quarterback was, right,

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter that it was Sam Hartman and not

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Speaker 1: Ian Book. It didn't matter. So until they make a

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Speaker 1: change at offensive coordinator that can maybe unlock some more

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Speaker 1: potential with the skilled talent that is on hand. I'm

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Speaker 1: inclined to say, give me a big time defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: like everybody in their uncle wants Walter Nolan. But I'd

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Speaker 1: be inclined to take someone a beast run stopper, a

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Speaker 1: beast defensive lineman like a Walter Nolan over a Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 1: over Riley Leonard, over any of these quarterbacks that were

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Speaker 1: drooling over, because I don't know what happens if those

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks get the South Bend. I don't know that there's

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Speaker 1: going to be some next level that they take the

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Speaker 1: offense to that we didn't see this year, because if

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Speaker 1: it were there, if it were there, we would have

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Speaker 1: seen it with Sam Hartman. Because Sam Hartman I still

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Speaker 1: think is way better than he showed this year. So

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Speaker 1: that's where I'm at. But I'm frustrated, and that's a

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Speaker 1: subjective take. I would take a defensive guy who can

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Speaker 1: come in and help stabilize that front for two more seasons,

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Speaker 1: whatever whatever it ends up being for Walter, and it

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Speaker 1: mains only one more season, But I would take the

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Speaker 1: guy who can come in and stabilize things in the

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Speaker 1: short term. And if you're not going to make a

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Speaker 1: change in offense, then we're just gonna, you know, run

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Speaker 1: the crap out of the ball and hope we win

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Speaker 1: close ones. All right, fair enough, appreciate the questions. We're

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Speaker 1: going to keep doing that all throughout the course of

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Speaker 1: the off season. Our schedule. By the way, in case

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Speaker 1: people are wondering, we've got a couple questions about this,

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Speaker 1: there are any games anymore. In case you're we got

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Speaker 1: ball season, We got balls, we got bowls going out

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Speaker 1: to play Winter Wonders dot Com. Get in the bowlpool.

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Speaker 1: It's free to play. I'm not going to keep driving

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Speaker 1: this point home. Actually I will. We've got what forty games,

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Speaker 1: forty one games. It's incredible, forty one in total, but

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Speaker 1: forty that we don't know. Yeah, but in the absence

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Speaker 1: of games in the weekend, at least with the same regularity,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be going back to our off season schedule,

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Speaker 1: which is two episodes a week, so every two Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Will be talking to you a little bit more about

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Speaker 1: that over the next few days or so. But that's

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Speaker 1: what it looks like for us in the for the

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Speaker 1: foreseeable future because we don't have games on the weekends

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Speaker 1: with the same regularity. Great you say, Thursday Love It

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Speaker 1: can't wait, Dan, the portal has a ton of steam.

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Speaker 1: It's going to continue having a ton of steam over

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Speaker 1: the next days and weeks. We will continue to continue

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Speaker 1: to keep you updated here as details become available, as

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Speaker 1: some of these guys start signing on with their new schools.

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Speaker 1: over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein for myself, Ty Hilderbrand,

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