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Speaker 1: Well, you know the story of Noah's Ark is far

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Speaker 1: more than just an ancient story. It's a powerful prophetic

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Speaker 1: symbol for the days we're living in. Well, today's guests

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Speaker 1: are here to share about their recent trip to Turkey,

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Speaker 1: where they explored what many believe to be the resting

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Speaker 1: place of Noah's Arc, and how, yes, a real thing, folks,

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Speaker 1: Tha's Arc was the real deal, and how these discoveries

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Speaker 1: are directly connected to end times. But before we get

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Speaker 1: to that, joined me around the table, and who is

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Speaker 1: one of our guests that just got back from Turkey?

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Speaker 2: Joseph Z.

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Speaker 3: Hello, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Was that a life changing trip for you?

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Speaker 4: It was?

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you have not been on a trip until

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Speaker 3: you've been with Rick Runner Turkey.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to go. I want to do that.

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Speaker 1: Dorothy Naton, how are you doing so good? You remember

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Speaker 1: learning about Noah's.

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Speaker 5: Yes, when God speaks, you better listen.

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Speaker 4: Ob obey otherwise are you're going to be left?

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Speaker 2: That's right? Who when he shuts the door? That's Rachel

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Speaker 2: Lamb Brown. How are you hey?

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Speaker 6: I named my son Noah, and I love this story

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Speaker 6: of Noah. He built an arc and a generation that

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Speaker 6: had never seen rain. I mean, can you imagine having

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Speaker 6: to have that kind of faith to believe.

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Speaker 2: That him and his sons did it. I don't even

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Speaker 2: know how they did.

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Speaker 6: It was only righteous man and a generation.

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Speaker 7: And so we write that great.

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Speaker 2: Great story. Rebecca Lamb Wise, how are you well.

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Speaker 8: I'm excited to be here. I'm excited for this topic.

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Speaker 8: And you know, Jesus said, as in the days of Noah,

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Speaker 8: So we're talking about Noah now more than ever in.

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Speaker 2: The body of Christ. So it's significant, it really is.

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Speaker 1: Cindy Murdock, I remember being in high school sitting around

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Speaker 1: the table of friends and one of my friends speaking

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Speaker 1: up and saying, Oh, that's just a fairy tale. It

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Speaker 1: didn't really happen, And I said, yes, it did happen. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't Noah, there wasn't arc There were animals on it.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about that goodness and a

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Speaker 2: man that persevered. Think how long it took him, We're

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Speaker 2: going to find him how many years? A lot? Wow.

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Speaker 1: Rick Renter, our resident theologian, is in the building.

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad to be with you.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to have you, and people love your

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Speaker 1: teaching and this was like one of my favorite books,

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Speaker 1: y'all fallen Angels, giants, monsters in the world before the flood?

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Speaker 1: What inspired you to write this book? And then I

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Speaker 1: couldn't believe how fast you wrote it.

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Speaker 4: I wrote that book in fifteen days. But Johnny, I

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Speaker 4: saw a video of these Ruins of Noah's Ark and

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a joke. I just did not

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Speaker 4: take it serious. But I just couldn't get it out

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Speaker 4: of my head. Well, I live in Russia, so that's

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Speaker 4: just two and a half hours from Turkey.

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Speaker 4: So I went with my whole film crew and we

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Speaker 4: went to the mountains of Ararat to check it out.

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Speaker 4: And when I got there, I was quite stunned because

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Speaker 4: it really is the Ruins of Noah's Ark, and it

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Speaker 4: took me about one hundred years to build it. He

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Speaker 4: was five hundred when he began to build it. For years, yeah,

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Speaker 4: six hundred when he entered the arc. Wow, And honestly,

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Speaker 4: and Joseph can tell you, when you stand, especially at

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Speaker 2: Of it, it's huge.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you are just breathless. Noah had to be

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Speaker 1: So I know we have some I believe some drone

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the drone footage is the best of what happened.

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Speaker 2: So explain what we're seeing in that.

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Speaker 4: Well, you see from the from the from the bottom

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Speaker 2: Walk along that's what the Bible says.

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Speaker 4: That's what the Bible says.

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Speaker 5: So it was.

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Speaker 2: Exact measurements at the Bible gates exactly.

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Speaker 4: And because they've done all the underground scans, it has

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Speaker 4: three decks exactly like the Bible says. And now when

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Speaker 3: you when you stand there, it's a ship, you know

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Speaker 4: It, Well, it's difficult to excavate because of where it is.

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Speaker 4: That's a very political situation.

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Speaker 1: Talk about where it landed because so many people they say, well,

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Speaker 2: Just the line it was Scripture.

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Speaker 4: Genesis eight four said it landed in the mountains of Ararat.

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Speaker 4: It never said it landed on Mount Ararat. And in fact,

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Speaker 4: when the Bible was written, Ararat did not exist. That

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Speaker 4: But it landed in the region of Ararat, and that's

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Speaker 4: where it is, just below the Silk Road. Now, if

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Speaker 4: you read all the ancient writers who traveled the Silk Road,

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Speaker 4: come to the ruins of Noah's Ark. And the ancient

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Speaker 4: the ark and carve them into amulets and wear them

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Speaker 4: as jewelry. It's exactly where people always said it was.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So tell us the story of Noah's Ark for

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Speaker 3: The story of Noah's Ark is a man who saw

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Speaker 3: cataclysm coming. He had a warning from God. He built

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Speaker 2: And what else went on there, Well.

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Speaker 3: That's for God reset the whole earth. That's for the

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Speaker 3: giants where I believe wiped out for that season. That's

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Speaker 3: where we saw terrible things take place. But God put

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Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit more in detail what

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Speaker 4: Well, God told Noah to build the Ark, and he

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Speaker 1: You in your book, but I do what the half breed.

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Speaker 1: You go into detail. That's where the sons of God.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, men slept with women. The women gave birth to

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Speaker 4: that book talks about fallen angels, giants and monsters. Monsters

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Speaker 4: know what, we got to clean this deal up. And

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Speaker 4: that's why God sent the flood. And God is so patient.

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Speaker 4: He waited until all there was left was one man

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Speaker 4: He's still not willing that any would perish.

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Speaker 2: Right, how does the flood relate to the intumest.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jesus said in Matthew twenty four thirty seven, as

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Speaker 4: A lot of sinister, dark, horrible, horrible things. And most

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Speaker 2: It's true's that nutty right now?

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Speaker 4: Why we need to prepare people.

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Speaker 8: One of the things I wanted to say was because

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Speaker 8: that didn't really happen.

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Speaker 8: But when you study ancient texts, people from all different

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Speaker 4: And in fact, the British Museum has one professor that

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Speaker 1: How did the animals, I mean, were they young? I mean,

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Speaker 4: Well, none of the animals on the arc had been right.

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Speaker 4: And now here's a question how to know which animals

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Speaker 8: And then there's that verse. Isn't there a verse that

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Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you that Genesis tells us the

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Speaker 4: I live in Moscow, and when the weather is cold,

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Speaker 4: Well, when they opened the doors to the Ark, those

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Speaker 4: animals had been through quite a rough ride, and the

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Speaker 4: Bible says that Noah had to make them leave the Ark.

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Speaker 4: They were a little afraid to go out into this

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Speaker 4: was a world of mud here mud. Can you imagine, Lord,

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Speaker 4: this to inherit this muddy mess. Yeah, but you know what,

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Speaker 4: he turned it into something great. And that's what all

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Speaker 8: Who was the person that first figured out recently that

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Speaker 8: people have been looking for the arc all over.

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Speaker 4: Well, it was found by a pilot who was flying

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Speaker 4: over the area. Oh wow, And he was making aerial

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Speaker 4: No, they are not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people believe in guardian angels, they believe in God,

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Speaker 4: I have no idea, but.

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Speaker 2: I mean are they on the earth? I mean are

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Speaker 2: they within the mosphere helping lucifers?

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Speaker 4: There are gloomy dungeons. That's what we know. Well, the

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Speaker 4: gloomy dungeons are the angels that said before the flood,

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Speaker 4: I think the angels that fell are part of principalities

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Speaker 4: and powers. Right, right, that's what I read all the seasons,

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Speaker 1: Right, because so now does Satan have an army? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: So talk a little bit about that, because people don't

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Speaker 4: But he knows the end of the book also well,

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Speaker 4: when you read Afhees in six twelve, it says principalities, powers,

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Speaker 4: rulers of the darkness of this world, spiritual wickedness, and

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Speaker 4: high places. All of that is militaristic language. And Paul

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Speaker 4: saw into the spirit realm and saw how kingdom, the

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Speaker 4: kingdom of darkness was arranged. And you know, one time

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Speaker 4: I said to the Lord, why does it seem the

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Speaker 4: devils has so many victories?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever wanted that or any victories?

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Speaker 4: And the Lord said to me, because the devil has

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Speaker 4: something the church doesn't have. I said, what is that?

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Speaker 4: He said, commitment, organization, and discipline. He said, the church

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Speaker 4: has more power, has promises, has the blood, but the

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Speaker 2: Times they're arguing with each other.

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Speaker 4: They're arguing with each other while the devil is ravaging

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Speaker 4: the world. That's right, Oh, we need a move of God.

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Speaker 4: We do.

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Speaker 3: We do need a revival of the Bible. The truth

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Speaker 3: of the matter is this. When we were there, Rick,

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Speaker 3: there's one thing I do want to mention, when we

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Speaker 3: were at Noah's Ark, just kind of coming full circle

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Speaker 3: on that. When we stood there at Noah's Ark, you

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Speaker 3: said something really powerful. You said, you know what, just

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Speaker 3: like God saved these eight people and raised them above

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Speaker 3: that storm, the Lord spoke to me in that moment

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Speaker 3: that we would see that with the United States. We'd

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Speaker 3: see it with nations and God's people that wanted to

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Speaker 3: follow him during this time. I got a word then

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Speaker 3: that we go through four years of redemptive instability. And

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Speaker 3: I believe that is why this has been discovered Israel,

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Speaker 3: the Arc, all this stuff at the same time in

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Speaker 3: nineteen forty eight. But right now, the fact that you're

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Speaker 3: bringing this back to the forefront, that you're talking about it, Jony,

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Speaker 3: I believe is a word to the body of Christ

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Speaker 3: that God wants to deliver us from what's coming next.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Lord gave me a word for twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five, which I sent to you, said, batten down

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Speaker 4: the hatches. This is war, and as we sail into

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Speaker 4: this year, this redemptive instability, we have to kind of

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Speaker 4: batten down the hatch. We sure do, because there's going

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Speaker 4: to be some rough water along the way. And even

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Speaker 4: if you look at what's happening in the news this week,

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Speaker 4: all the tariff wars from one country to another, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's we're headed into that season.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was a prophetic word that came to

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Speaker 1: but it basically was that, you know, we talk about

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Speaker 1: pleading the blood of Jesus, and he said that the

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Speaker 1: Lord took him back to that time when he was

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Speaker 1: delivering the Israelites out of Egypt and that last plague

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Speaker 1: that came through. He said, to paint the blood over

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Speaker 1: the doorpost. But he said that's not all he said.

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Speaker 1: He said to shut the door and stay in the house.

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Speaker 1: And you know there would have been wailing and gnashing

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Speaker 1: and so he said, that's a word.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the blood of Jesus is over us. But shut

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Speaker 2: the door. Whatever doors that we've opened need to be.

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Speaker 1: Closed and need to stay in the house and trust

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Speaker 1: God to do what he's going to do.

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Speaker 3: And the light came out of Goshen from inside their houses.

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Speaker 3: So that's the word supernatural light.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so talk a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We only have a few minutes left about why you

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Speaker 1: believe there's going to be a rapture.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I have no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: You have no doubt.

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Speaker 4: I'm writing a book on it right now.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be two hundred pages.

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Speaker 4: At six hundred Why does.

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Speaker 1: Everybody argue that about this particular subject.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. But Peter said, in the end of

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Speaker 4: the age there will be mockers who will make fun

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Speaker 4: of people who believe in the rapture, And today there

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Speaker 4: really are mockers. You know, I don't understand. I can

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Speaker 4: respect their opinions, I would like for them to respect ours.

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Speaker 6: What is the greatest evidence for the rapture that you

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Speaker 6: found in your studies?

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Speaker 4: Oh, the Bible. Well, first of all, the Bible's full

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Speaker 4: of raptures, Enik was raptured, Elijah was raptured, Jesus was

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Speaker 4: raptured us. The Bible is filled with raptures. And when

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Speaker 4: people say that they don't believe in a rapture, they

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Speaker 4: don't know the Bible. And there are other Christians who

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Speaker 4: now say, well, you know what, We're going to stay here,

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Speaker 4: We're going to take over the kingdoms of the earth,

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Speaker 4: We're going to run the government. I have more faith

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Speaker 4: for a rapture than I do for that I don't

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Speaker 4: seem to be able to run anything. I'd rather believe

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Speaker 4: for a rapture.

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Speaker 1: So a rapture is when the Bible talks about that

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Speaker 1: we'll meet him in the air. The second coming is

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Speaker 1: when we come with him.

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Speaker 4: That's right. And the word rapture is the Greek word harpozzo.

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Speaker 4: This is really important because it describes a rescue operation

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Speaker 4: to snatch just in the nick of time.

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Speaker 2: This is so good.

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Speaker 1: Do get his book Fallen Angels, Giants, Monster in the

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Speaker 1: World before the Flood, and you can call that number

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Speaker 1: on the screen and we can actually get this book

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Speaker 1: to you and tell you more about it. It helps

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Speaker 1: kind of understand those things that maybe you don't understand

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Speaker 1: when you read the Bible.

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Speaker 2: Rick is so great at that.

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Speaker 1: But we would be remiss if we didn't give the

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Speaker 1: people watching right now an opportunity to receive Jesus, because

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Speaker 1: we want everyone to go with us to heaven.

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Speaker 2: And that's why we.

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Speaker 1: Do what we do every day, is because your soul

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Speaker 1: is important to us, but more so even important to God.

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Speaker 4: So Rick, well, God is in the business of giving

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Speaker 4: people a second chance. He gave me a second chance,

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Speaker 4: and he's given you a second chance. And if you've

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Speaker 4: never made Jesus the lord of your life, you don't

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Speaker 4: have to live in your sin, and you don't have

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Speaker 4: to live with your failure or just your disappointments. Jesus

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Speaker 4: wants to give you a new chance. And if you'll

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Speaker 4: call him the Lord of your life, and that means

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Speaker 4: surrender to him the control of your life, to say, Jesus,

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Speaker 4: be the Lord of my life. Just that fast, his

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Speaker 4: spirit will come inside you. You'll become a new creature

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Speaker 4: and everything will become new, and you'll start all over again,

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Speaker 4: and it's going to be great. So, Father, in Jesus' name,

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Speaker 4: I pray for my friend. Now, Friend, I just want

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Speaker 4: you to say, Jesus I'm giving my.

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Speaker 2: Life to you, Jesus, I'm giving life.

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Speaker 4: Be the Lord of my life, the Lord of mine life.

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Speaker 4: Come in to me, Come in to me. Give me

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Speaker 4: a new chance, Give me a new chance. Amen. Amen,

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Speaker 4: that's you.

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Speaker 2: Amen. I love that. I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's so simple. The gospel is so simple. People make

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Speaker 1: it difficult, but it's not. The Lord loves you so much.

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Speaker 1: No accident that you're watching right now. Some of you

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Speaker 2: And this is why.

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Speaker 1: Because God loves you so much, and your heart has

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Speaker 1: been looking for truth. And there's just something that resonates

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Speaker 1: right now as you're listening, and that's the Holy Spirit saying,

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Speaker 1: come on home.

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Speaker 2: I've been waiting for you. So I'm so excited about

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Speaker 2: what God has for you in the days ahead. So

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Speaker 2: be encouraged.

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Speaker 1: We are out of time, but I want you to

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Speaker 1: remember that the story Noah's Ark isn't just a tale

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Speaker 1: from the past. It is a prophetic call to action

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Speaker 1: for today. In a world full of challenges, God calls

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Speaker 1: us to stand firm, stay watchful, and to trust his

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Speaker 1: unshakable promises. Just as He was faithful to Noah, he

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Speaker 1: will be faithful to you. So if you're watching today

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Speaker 1: and you need prayer or you pray that prayer, call

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Speaker 1: that number on the screen. We'd love to pray with you,

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Speaker 1: encourage you. Also, send you the Book of John.

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Speaker 2: For you to start. That's a great place to start.

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Speaker 1: In the Bible, and you'll find that the Word of

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Speaker 1: God will make such a huge difference in your life.

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Speaker 1: So get a Bible that you can understand and read

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Speaker 1: and maybe in a modern day vernacular, and start reading

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Speaker 1: the Word. Find a church, and God's going to do

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Speaker 1: some great things in your life. I really do believe

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Speaker 1: that well. I want to thank Rick Renner and Joseph

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Speaker 1: Z for joining us. For more information and resources from Rick,

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Speaker 1: visit Renter dot org and more from Joseph visit joseph

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Speaker 1: z dot com. As always, make sure to follow us

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Speaker 1: You can also listen to the Jony table Talk podcast,

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Speaker 1: available now on all major platforms. But I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for watching, and thank you for

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Speaker 2: Receiving what the Lord has for you today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, such a pleasure to have all the

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Speaker 2: And ladies, thank you so much. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 11: Bye bye for to day.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, forgiving is Jesus commands us to can

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Speaker 1: sometimes feel impossible, actually when your soul has been shattered

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Speaker 1: by abuse and hurt and pain disappointment. But today's guest,

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Speaker 1: it's going to share a moving testimony of how God's

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Speaker 1: love rebuilt her life, proving that forgiveness isn't just a

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Speaker 1: gift we give, it's a.

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Speaker 2: Path to our own healing.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, joining around the table

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Speaker 1: is Cindy Johnston. And that's something I mean, you're going

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Speaker 1: to relate to our guest testimony because on the other side,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of you had to forgive your mom.

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Speaker 2: What's forgiveness a big part of it?

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Speaker 9: Oh for sure.

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Speaker 12: I mean, you can't go on unless you forgive and baggage,

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Speaker 12: and I think it keeps accumulating because when you don't

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Speaker 12: forgive one person, you probably are gonna have problems for

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Speaker 12: giving the next person and the next person.

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Speaker 2: And so true, so beautiful story, Dorothy Newton.

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Speaker 1: We have to forgive seventy times seven a day all

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, the cleansing, the purity, the freedom

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Speaker 5: is so important, and it's it's just necessary for your journey,

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Speaker 5: for you personally to be able to walk in God's calling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rachel Lamb Brown, Welcome to the table.

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Speaker 13: And good.

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Speaker 1: Bitterness is not worth losing the peace that you have

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Speaker 1: when you forgive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think when you can understand that forgiveness is for

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Speaker 6: you and not for anyone else, it really helps you

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Speaker 6: digest it better. But I mean, man, it's like if

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Speaker 6: you allow that in it just it just takes over every.

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Speaker 7: Aspect of your wife.

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Speaker 2: I've done it, we all have.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot easier said than die, but it is

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Speaker 6: so worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it Kindred. We've let it marinate. I mean I

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Speaker 2: know I have, yeah, And I know.

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Speaker 7: You're sorry, you know, and rehearsed it.

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Speaker 14: And here's the thing though, all that rehearsing and all

674
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Speaker 14: that bitterness and all of that, all it does is

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Speaker 14: take away your energy. It makes you sick physically, mentally, emotionally.

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Speaker 2: It's not good.

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Speaker 14: It's not and it's not how God intended to live.

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Speaker 14: He wanted you to live happy and free, like Dorothy said,

679
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Speaker 14: and just ready to say, Okay, God, what do you

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Speaker 14: want for me next? And you can't do that and

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Speaker 14: be ready to move in his will if you're too

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Speaker 14: busy dragging around the boulders of unforgiveness behind you.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: And forgiveness sets us free, Cindy Murdoch more than the

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Speaker 1: other person that offended us.

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Speaker 10: It does because my experience of unforgiveness, I became somebody I.

687
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Speaker 2: Didn't like, but thank God, he said me.

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Speaker 10: Because people don't realize their actions what it does to us.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they just go on with life. They don't even

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Speaker 2: realize they've affected us.

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Speaker 1: So your situation, the person didn't even know what they

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Speaker 1: were doing, over and over breaking your heart goodness in it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you got through and God restored me.

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Speaker 12: Yes.

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Speaker 10: Forgiveness is absolutely gold.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: And we just want to welcome Sam McNeil to the Table.

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Speaker 2: Of the day.

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Speaker 13: You're wonderful to be here with all of you nice, wonderful,

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Speaker 13: precious sisters in the Lord.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have fun at the table for sure,

702
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Speaker 1: because you know all the people here well, you know,

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Speaker 1: for Sam McNeil, childhood abuse left deep scars, but unforgiveness

704
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Speaker 1: cut even deeper. She's here to share how God healed

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Speaker 1: her heart and mind through the power of forgiveness, and

706
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Speaker 1: how He can do the same for you. Some of

707
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Speaker 1: you are sitting there like, Okay, what are they going.

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Speaker 2: To talk about?

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Speaker 1: This is a pretty horrific testimony, but it's amazing what

710
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Speaker 1: God did in Sam's life.

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Speaker 2: Sam was my assistant for many years.

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Speaker 1: She retired to go into full time ministry, preaching in

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Speaker 1: the prisons, and so that's a little bit of the

714
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Speaker 1: end of the story. But I know her story so well,

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Speaker 1: and I know so many of you right now watching

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Speaker 1: you may be struggling or someone you know maybe struggling

717
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Speaker 1: with depression or mental and emotional issues, anxiety, fear, and

718
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Speaker 1: so her testimony is going to be so encouraging to you.

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Speaker 2: So let's just start with a little bit of your childhood,

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Speaker 2: because I know you had some very traumatic things that happened.

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Speaker 13: Yes, my father was a womanizer, He was an alcoholic,

722
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Speaker 13: and he abused her their entire marriage.

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Speaker 9: Your mother, yes, huh.

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Speaker 13: And my mother would have me sleep with her as

725
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Speaker 13: a child and hope that dead wouldn't come home and

726
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Speaker 13: pull her out of bed. And beat her, and sometimes

727
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Speaker 13: at worked, sometimes it didn't because and then as her daughter,

728
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Speaker 13: I would get up and get in the middle and

729
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Speaker 13: try to push him off, and then I got pushed

730
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Speaker 13: aside he he was He would wrap coat hangers around

731
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Speaker 13: her neck, trying to choke her.

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Speaker 1: I remember one day you said, you came home, and

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Speaker 1: we can't tell every story because I want to get

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Speaker 1: to your main story.

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Speaker 2: But she was at the top of the steps she

736
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Speaker 2: came home from school.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I was fifteen years old, and she was fully

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Speaker 13: clothed and ringing, wet from head to toe. It's like

739
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Speaker 13: somebody had put a hose on her. I ran up

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Speaker 13: the stairs. I hugged her and I said, Mom, what happened?

741
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Speaker 13: And she said that dad had put her that she

742
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Speaker 13: was in the bathtub and he tried to drown her,

743
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Speaker 13: and then he hauled her down until she felt like

744
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Speaker 13: she was going to die, and then he released her

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Speaker 13: and he stood back and laughed. Well, that was one

746
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Speaker 13: of the instants.

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Speaker 1: So you saw a dad who was abusive, who was

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Speaker 1: an alcoholic, who was a womanizer, who beat your mom,

749
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Speaker 1: But he surprisingly never beat you. I mean, he did

750
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Speaker 1: some verbal abuse, but as far as touching you physically.

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Speaker 2: He didn't know.

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Speaker 13: He didn't. He never physically abused me. He was very

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Speaker 13: emotionally abusive to.

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Speaker 1: But you saw a woman that was in pure torment

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Speaker 1: for years. Absolutely, Mom, So tell us about that fateful

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Speaker 1: day when you were asleep.

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Speaker 2: What happened.

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Speaker 13: I was in a deep sleep and I heard breaking glass,

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Speaker 13: which woke me up, and I ran into the other

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Speaker 13: bedroom next door, and I found my brother was in there,

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Speaker 13: and he was screaming no, no, no, and Mom was

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Speaker 13: on the bed, and her body had had a bluish

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Speaker 13: color to it. And so in my mind, because Dad

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Speaker 13: had always beat her so much, I thought he had

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Speaker 13: beaten her to death. And so I ran all over

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Speaker 13: the house looking for him because I was going to

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Speaker 13: kill him. And when I didn't find him, then I

768
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Speaker 13: ran ran back upstairs and I straddled my mother's body.

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Speaker 13: Her mouth was a little bit open, and so I began.

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Speaker 13: I didn't know anything about CPR, of course, and I

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Speaker 13: didn't have the forethought to pinch her nose as I

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Speaker 13: breathed my breath into her body. And I will never

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Speaker 13: forget the coldness of that air, which was my air

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Speaker 13: coming back through her nose on the right side of

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Speaker 13: my cheek.

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Speaker 1: Wow, how devastating was it for you at fifteen to

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Speaker 1: find your mom like that?

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Speaker 9: It was horrible. It was horrible.

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Speaker 2: I think you told me one time it may have

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Speaker 2: been the worst day of your life.

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Speaker 9: It was, it still has been.

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Speaker 1: People think about even some of you watching right now,

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Speaker 1: you've thought, Gosh, I just don't even want to keep

784
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Speaker 1: living it. Just I'd be better, My family would be better,

785
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Speaker 1: life would be better if I just ended it.

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Speaker 2: Don't do it. Don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Think about what Sam's talking about. And those voices that

788
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Speaker 1: tell you to do that are the voices of the enemy.

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Speaker 1: The Bible says that satans come to kill, still and destroy,

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Speaker 1: But Jesus said, I've come that you might have life

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Speaker 1: and have it more abundantly, and Jesus wants to breathe

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Speaker 1: life into that situation you're in right now.

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Speaker 2: So we're just going to pray right now in.

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Speaker 1: Jesus name for those thoughts to dissipate, and you are

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Speaker 1: not going to take your life in Jesus' name.

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Speaker 7: Is that what happened? Your mom took her own life.

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Speaker 13: Yes, that was the breaking of the glass. That it

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Speaker 13: was a bottle of sleeping pills that she had taken.

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Speaker 9: And then later.

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Speaker 13: My brother and I we had found other bottles that

801
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 13: she had also, so.

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Speaker 1: She had taken like a huge amount of sleeping hill

803
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Speaker 1: she did before. So how was your life after that, Sam,

804
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: because there was no really, if you will, relationship with

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Speaker 1: God or understanding really of the Lord at that point

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Speaker 1: in your life there.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, there wasn't anything. I actually remember standing out running

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00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 13: out of the house one day dead and I had

809
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 13: got into it. It was the same house, and I

810
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Speaker 13: stood on the lawn and I raised my fist to

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Speaker 13: God and I said, I hate my father and I

812
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Speaker 13: hate you God. And why this came out of my mouth,

813
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Speaker 13: I'll never know, but I said, and I'll never serve you.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 13: And then I had to live with my dad for

816
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Speaker 13: four to five years after that.

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Speaker 1: So did you kind of become rebellious and you're oh, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 7: What was your dad's reaction to your mom?

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Speaker 9: He didn't.

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Speaker 13: I don't remember him crying. I don't know that he

822
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 13: was in shock. He actually couldn't find him for a

823
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Speaker 13: couple of days because we had to send the police

824
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Speaker 13: out find him somewhere because he was out. And we

825
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 13: found out later who was out with another woman, and

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Speaker 13: when he came in he I don't even know that

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Speaker 13: he was shocked about that.

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Speaker 9: I never saw him cry.

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Speaker 1: Now, later on he's going to have to deal with

830
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: shame and conviction and condemnation. We'll get to that, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, for the most part, he lived a miserable life.

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Speaker 2: He did.

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Speaker 1: And so you continue on in rebellion. At some point

834
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Speaker 1: you get saved. We want to get you saved them.

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Speaker 9: Yes, lead me to the Lord R right now. And Yes.

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Speaker 13: In nineteen seventy four, my brothers had been encouraging me

837
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Speaker 13: to come to church, and finally I went in nineteen

838
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Speaker 13: seventy four and at a little nascering church in Kenmorro, Ohio.

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Speaker 13: My sister in law, Doretta, my brother Larry. Duretta's dad

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Speaker 13: actually was the very, very godly man. I always looked

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Speaker 13: up to him. And he was at the altar that

842
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 13: gave the altar call. And I went down there and

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Speaker 13: I remember he prayed for me and gave my life

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Speaker 13: to the Lord. And he looked at me and he said,

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Speaker 13: never turned back. And I said, I want.

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Speaker 1: So, what made it different at that point that your

847
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Speaker 1: heart was open to receive the Lord?

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Speaker 2: After all you've been through.

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Speaker 9: I think that.

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Speaker 13: It was just how much that Jesus offered me compared

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Speaker 13: to what I had had before, and and also the

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Speaker 13: the journey that he began taking me on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so.

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Speaker 1: You ended up getting married, yes, and having a daughter yes,

855
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Speaker 1: named Naudua Naua. I hope you're watching this, and but

856
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: you're you're a Christian at this point, and uh, but then.

857
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Speaker 2: You have to go through a divorce.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there's infidelity, yes, and spirriage of heart broken again?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 2: How hard was that?

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Speaker 13: That was really hard? It was very difficult divorce to

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Speaker 13: go through. And I had been out at the workforce,

863
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Speaker 13: you know, being married and having naedge when everything.

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Speaker 9: So I had to find a job. So went and

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Speaker 9: did that and it was just.

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Speaker 13: Devastating mentally, I think, picking up all the pieces and.

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Speaker 1: And at some point you you were not you were

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Speaker 1: not only saved, but you begin to be hungry for more.

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Speaker 9: Yes, of the Lord.

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Speaker 2: And so tell us about what happened with that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I was working for rex Hombard Ministries. I worked at

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Speaker 13: Ford in midnight shift and so I was driving home

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Speaker 13: one night, had to pick up Nause from the babysitter

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Speaker 13: and as was driving, I could feel the presence of

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Speaker 13: God on me, and I just started speaking in this

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Speaker 13: this different type of language. And I had been seeking

878
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 13: the baptism the Holy Spirit, and so you know, I

879
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 13: get Nagel home and I get her in bed, and

880
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 13: I'm like, I want to finish this. And so the

881
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 13: devil owys try and distract us, you know, when God

882
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 13: wants to bless us with something. And so I grabbed

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Speaker 13: a picture of Jesus off the wall and I put

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Speaker 13: it in front of me and I was kneeling it

885
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 13: to bed, and then I lived in my arms and

886
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 13: I told God, I said, I want everything you have

887
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 13: for me, and I want tost baptisms in the Holy Spirit.

888
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 9: And I mean it was like just you just dropped

889
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 9: right and that was.

890
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: Like something that was supernatural for you that really, i know,

891
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: encouraged you. You felt like a calling to ministry. At

892
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 1: the same time, yes, you still probably are dealing with

893
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: the pain and the trauma of your childhood. That's that's

894
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: that's just deep inside you that really the light of

895
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: God's healing power hasn't shown on it, and you haven't

896
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: dealt probably with a lot of that, even unforgiveness towards

897
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: your Father, which is understandable. So I mean, because there

898
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: are people watching right now that you love God, but

899
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: you have things down there that need to come out

900
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: and the light of God needs to shine on it,

901
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: and God saying.

902
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: You're going to have to forgive if you're going to

903
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: move on and be healed, even from some of the

904
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: stuff you're suffering right now. You were diagnosed with what

905
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: not long after that.

906
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 9: With manic depressive illness.

907
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 13: I had a which they call bipolar bipolar today, and

908
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 13: I had constant suicidal thoughts and severe depression. I had

909
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 13: a mental breakdown in nineteen seventy nine. I was in

910
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 13: psychiatric wards on three different occasions, and I was always

911
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 13: when they have to go to counselors, you know.

912
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: And now during that time, the Lord brought a wonderful

913
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: man into your life.

914
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: I did that.

915
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: You met actually at Rex.

916
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 8: I did.

917
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 9: He worked in an engineering he's a TV engineer.

918
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: And we've y'all been married now for forty.

919
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so but.

920
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: Anyway, so let's go back. So he's walking with you

921
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: through this. I mean, Steve is he knows you're dealing

922
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: with this. I know you told me you would have

923
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: like high highs and you'd go shopping and buy everything

924
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: at store.

925
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: Right, and the cry and then go really low and I.

926
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 13: Really have to get a third job now and and

927
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 13: so yes, Steve was was very supportive of me during

928
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 13: that time.

929
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: And did you ask, like when you go to church

930
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: to be prayed for always?

931
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 9: Always?

932
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: And I know you told me you probably a hundred

933
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: times went down I could.

934
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 9: I couldn't put a number on it.

935
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 13: Over the years, you know that I would go down

936
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 13: and ask for prayer. I mean I was in every

937
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 13: healing line that could you could imagine you're on.

938
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 2: You're on medication.

939
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: Yes, we always tell everybody when we talk about this

940
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: kind of testimony, don't go off your medication. At SAS

941
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: is a supernatural story. God will speak to you and

942
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: show you about that.

943
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: But I do.

944
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: Believe that some of the things we're going to talk

945
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: about today are going to bring healing in that area.

946
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: Some of you that have suffered with depression, it's not

947
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: even so much about the depression, it's about something down

948
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: there that you haven't dealt with. And when that comes

949
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: up and God heals it and you forgive, you're going

950
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: to see some of these things you've been dealing with

951
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: in your body, heel. I mean, it's just it's going

952
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: to happen. Yes, So take us to that service, the

953
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: main service. How did you get to this particular church

954
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: service where they actually were praying for people and you

955
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: knew there were some there was just there was a special.

956
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: Annointing at this church. During this time this.

957
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 13: Season, Steve was working for James Robinson Ministries and James

958
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 13: was going to have a crusade or a conference in Orlando, Florida.

959
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 13: And so I had a friend that worked at James's

960
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 13: and she called me and she said, we need somebody

961
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 13: to work the book table, and did she want to

962
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 13: know if I wanted to volunteer for that because Steve

963
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 13: had to go down anyway. And so at first I

964
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 13: told her no because I was so depressed and suicidal.

965
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 9: I thought I just can't do this.

966
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 13: And then I called her back and I thought, now

967
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 13: I feel like I need to go.

968
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 9: So went down there.

969
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 13: We had friends on staff at a church locally there,

970
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 13: and Steve and I went to the morning service. It

971
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 13: was incredible, and then Steve had to work that night,

972
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 13: so I went back to the evening service.

973
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 9: Yeah.

974
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 13: I was so tired and I just didn't want to go,

975
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 13: but then I felt like I should, and so I

976
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 13: went to the service. There were hundreds of people in

977
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 13: line outside of the building, went in, got a seat.

978
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 13: My friend there got me his seat, and the presence

979
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 13: and power of God was.

980
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: The way I.

981
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 9: Describe it is that it was thick. It was like

982
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 9: oil you.

983
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 13: Could rub between your fingers. And in the Pastor had

984
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 13: actually dismissed the people to go several times, but nobody

985
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 13: wanted to go, of course, and so in the middle

986
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 13: of the service, then he stopped all of a sudden,

987
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 13: and he said, I have a vision of the Lord

988
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 13: and he's here. He's in a white robe, and he

989
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 13: has instructed me to put an empty chair in representation

990
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 13: of him being here on the platform. And he's told

991
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 13: me to tell you to ask anything that you need

992
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 13: and he will do it.

993
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: And he left the stage.

994
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, Lord, there's nobody on the stage. It's

995
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: just an empty chair. And he's saying, I'm getting off

996
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: the stage because Jesus is here and he wants to

997
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: heal you. Yes, And so what happened? What did you

998
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: see happened? When he left the stage.

999
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 13: I saw hundreds of people go forward, But I also

1000
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 13: within the that group. I saw little children going up

1001
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 13: and they would go and they would raise their little

1002
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 13: arms before that empty chair and they would It was

1003
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 13: like a gentle wind would come and just blow them over.

1004
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 13: They were getting slain in the people in the spirit.

1005
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 13: People were getting healed, they were getting baptized in the spirit,

1006
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 13: people were getting saved. And so I sat there and

1007
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 13: I was witnessing all of this, and all of a sudden,

1008
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 13: the Lord reminded me that just like I saw those

1009
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 13: little children going forward, that I needed to have a

1010
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 13: childlike face. And this is what I heard him, clearly,

1011
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 13: as clear as I'm speaking right now, and he said,

1012
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 13: do not be afraid. I will in no way cast

1013
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 13: you aside. Ask what you would of me now and

1014
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 13: I will do it. I bid you come now.

1015
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: And every time she told me that story, folks, exactly

1016
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: she knows exactly what the Lord said, because Sam nor

1017
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: I would talk that way.

1018
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: I bid you come.

1019
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: I will in no way cast you aside, I mean.

1020
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: And so what did you do when you heard that?

1021
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 13: Because the presence of God was so heavy there, I

1022
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 13: got out of my chair and I started walking to

1023
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 13: the altar, and the closer I got to the altar.

1024
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 13: The more presence of God came upon me and I

1025
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 13: went up there on the platform. I raised my hand

1026
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 13: in front of that.

1027
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 9: Empty chair. I raised my arms as high.

1028
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 13: As I could get them, like I wanted to touch God.

1029
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 13: So he touched me, and I said, God, I asked

1030
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 13: you to heal me or deliver me from this severe depression.

1031
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 13: And I ask you God, to deliver me from this

1032
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 13: spirit of suicide. And I said God, I beg you

1033
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 13: to deliver me from this manic to illness. And what

1034
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 13: I felt was warm oil coming over my body. I

1035
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 13: felt that sensation, and I felt a hand come through

1036
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 13: my physical brain as though it was cleaning out all

1037
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 13: of the garbage, everything you know, out of my brain.

1038
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 9: And then I was slain in the spirit.

1039
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 13: And I remember when I got up that for the

1040
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 13: first time in the twenty years that I could think clearly. Wow,

1041
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 13: it was like my brain had been put through a

1042
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 13: washing machine.

1043
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 9: That it really was like.

1044
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: That, and you could think clearly.

1045
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: And I just want to say, for those of you

1046
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: that are watching you, since the presence of God right there,

1047
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: we are just received from the Lord right now, and

1048
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: just say thank you Jesus for healing me right now

1049
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: thank you for your presence. It's in this room right now.

1050
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: Just receive that right now. We're almost out of time.

1051
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: But you have to share about years later, and of

1052
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: course you were on lithium, and I mean she's had

1053
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: no medication since.

1054
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 13: That, No, for over thirty years, and no issues with

1055
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 13: no issues with.

1056
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: Any of that.

1057
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: Like God completely healing that, folks, that's a miracle. Yes, okay,

1058
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: So years later, your dad is still alive in his

1059
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: late seventies, and you you're going to go visit him.

1060
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 13: Yes, was working for you at the time, and I

1061
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 13: was driving, and you gave me a phone call and

1062
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 13: you said that you had had a vision of the

1063
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 13: Lord and that on this trip that if I would

1064
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 13: give him the simple plan of salvation, that he was

1065
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 13: going to receive Jesus. And so went on to Alabama

1066
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 13: and went to his little mobile home and I went

1067
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 13: in and I knelt by his recliner and I said, dead.

1068
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 13: I said, you don't have to feel guilty anymore, because

1069
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 13: I knew that he had always felt guilty about Mom's suicide,

1070
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 13: but we had never spoken about it. And I said,

1071
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 13: Jesus loves you and he will forgive you, just like

1072
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 13: he's forgiven me. I said, would you like to accept

1073
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 13: Jesus as your personal say you're right now, and he said, yes, honey,

1074
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 13: I'd love to do that. And so I led him

1075
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 13: in a prayer of salvation and he passed just a

1076
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 13: few years later, and so I know he's in heaven.

1077
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

1078
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: I mean some of you watch him say, well, I

1079
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: don't think he deserved to be forgiven. The truth is

1080
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: none of us deserves that's right. So, especially for you

1081
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: that you feel like you have committed the unpardonable sin,

1082
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: I want you to know that you can be forgiven

1083
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: if you repent. The Bible says, if we confess our sins,

1084
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: he's faithful and just to forgive us of all our

1085
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: sins and declines us from all unrighteousness. And he wants

1086
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: to do that for you right now. All you have

1087
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: to say is Jesus, come in forgive me. Can you

1088
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: really forgive me?

1089
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: Yes? He can.

1090
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: And then say, fill me with your spirit. I want

1091
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: everything that you have for me. Just say it, right,

1092
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: just say it, fill me with your spirit. I want

1093
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: everything that you have for me right now. And I'm

1094
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: telling you it's a.

1095
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: New day for you.

1096
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: Old Bible says, old things pass away, Behold all things

1097
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: are new.

1098
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: There's joy in the morning, and.

1099
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: So that joy is coming your way when you pray

1100
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: that prayer. Well, I hat didn't get to talk to

1101
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: all of y'all, but I mean, maybe just one word

1102
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: from each of you.

1103
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 12: Cindy, God is miraculous.

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Speaker 2: That's three words, but that's good story. God is love words.

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Speaker 7: I'd say, there's hope.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome, what an awesome.

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Speaker 1: Awesome And you felt the presence already. I was like

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Speaker 1: trying to Okay, Cindy, Wow, amazing, yeah, amazing, amazing. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, Sam my pleasure for sharing your story.

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Speaker 1: And we are out of time, but I want you

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Speaker 1: to remember whatever the past may hold, just remember this

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Speaker 1: unforgiveness doesn't have to be part of your future. Sam

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Speaker 1: could have held onto that, and I really believe she

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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be here if she had chosen never to forgive.

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Speaker 1: And as horrible as what it was what happened, God

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Speaker 1: in his mercy still reach down and touch that father

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Speaker 1: and touch his heart. And we don't know what his

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Speaker 1: story is. See that's the thing. People that do these

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Speaker 1: kind of things, we never know what happened to them,

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Speaker 1: you know, or how they were treated or what they

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Speaker 1: went through. So you know, we can't be God, we

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Speaker 1: can't judge the heart of people, but we know that

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Speaker 1: Jesus came to save all for all of us.

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Speaker 2: He died for all of us.

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Speaker 1: So I want you to understand that as you prayed

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Speaker 1: that prayer, those of you that did, He's going to

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Speaker 1: give you a peace and a.

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Speaker 2: Joy that you have been longing for.

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Speaker 1: And if you're watching today and you need prayer, you

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Speaker 1: pray that prayer, or you need prayer or you're believing

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Speaker 1: God for healing, we have amazing prayer partners that are

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Speaker 1: standing by ready to pray with you.

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Speaker 2: And that's why that numbers on the screen.

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Speaker 1: And I will send you the Book of John, the

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Speaker 1: Gospel of John for free if you pray that prayer.

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Speaker 2: And that's just our way of getting you.

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Speaker 1: Started into the Word of God, because is so important

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Speaker 1: to get a good Bible.

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Speaker 2: Start doing that.

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Speaker 1: But I do want to thank my dear friend Sam

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Speaker 1: for being here today. As always, make sure to follow

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Speaker 1: us on all social media.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe to our YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Channel for full episodes and exclusive content. Let us know

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Speaker 1: how Table Talk is touching your life. We love hearing

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Speaker 1: from you of course, you can also listen to the

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Speaker 1: Johnny Table Talk podcasts, available now on all major platforms.

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Speaker 1: Sam is now ministering in prisons and God is using

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Speaker 1: her in an amazing way and.

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Speaker 2: She has so many great stories to tell about that.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing how God can take everything that we

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Speaker 1: went through and use it to relate and heal others.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so powerful, it's so powerful, And that's

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Speaker 1: what He's going to do for you. Some of you

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Speaker 1: have been through some dark, dark situations. God's going to

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Speaker 1: redeem that. He's going to bring light, healing, he's going

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Speaker 1: to wash you clean, and then he's going to take

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Speaker 1: everything that you went through and use you to help

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Speaker 1: those around you in a way that you can even imagine,

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Speaker 1: so you'd be ready for that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for watching today. We love you,

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Speaker 2: See you next time. By bye for today