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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. It's Friday, everybody. Welcome to the Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. A lot going on out there,

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Speaker 1: and I know that it is a holiday weekend, more

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Speaker 1: day weekend we're going into, so people are getting ready

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Speaker 1: to go hit the road or get up in the

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Speaker 1: skies to travel to see friends, friends and family. And

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Speaker 1: there's both celebration and a solemnity this weekend. Celebration of

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Speaker 1: this country and the freedoms that we have, and solemnity

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Speaker 1: at the remembrance of those who gave their lives so

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Speaker 1: that we could have those freedoms. But for a lot

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Speaker 1: of you, I know it's closing the last few hours

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Speaker 1: here of the day, perhaps as you're getting ready or

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Speaker 1: maybe you've just got to finish out the workday. So

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Speaker 1: Clay and I are going to talk to about a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff we have, for example, the the

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Speaker 1: ongoing this is going to be something, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a store. We're talking about a lot here. Ron

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Speaker 1: de Santist, Donald Trump. That primary interesting also to see

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Speaker 1: the Democrat response the Biden, the Biden apparatus response to

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Speaker 1: this now, and you're starting to get a sense as

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Speaker 1: to maybe whether they're hoping they get one candidate or

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Speaker 1: the other, how they're going to play it from the outside,

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Speaker 1: how they're going to cover all this, and we'll certainly

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Speaker 1: discuss that. In a couple of Democrat controlled cities, we

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Speaker 1: have some interesting stuff going on. One is London breed

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco. You see this booed booed at a

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Speaker 1: meeting to try to address the fentanyl crisis. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we just saw our I just saw Dave Rubin down

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Speaker 1: and he had just been in San Francisco and was

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Speaker 1: sharing videos of it, you know, online on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: it is what people say it is. It has turned

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Speaker 1: into a mess. There are parts of the downtown that

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Speaker 1: have the feel of a zombie apocalypse. And what's happening

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Speaker 1: is you've got people that are extremely addicted to drugs

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Speaker 1: who are committing crimes as well as you know, quality

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Speaker 1: of life violations for everybody else to feed their drug

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Speaker 1: habit and they're overdosing and I'm presidential rates, So that's

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Speaker 1: going on in San Francisco. We can address that Mayor

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Speaker 1: Adams in New York City. I almost couldn't believe this,

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Speaker 1: but he's looking at a homeless bill of rights. This

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Speaker 1: is what they're calling it, the homeless bill of Rights

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Speaker 1: that will allow for a homeless people to camp on

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Speaker 1: the streets. This is going to do what you've seen

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Speaker 1: in Portland and LA and San Francisco and Austin. A

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Speaker 1: lot of this in Austin, Texas when I was there

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. I'm not sure if they've

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Speaker 1: tried to start cleaning it up yet or not, but

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Speaker 1: people camping out on the streets bad news. The debt

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Speaker 1: ceiling is still a thing. Is the economy going to

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Speaker 1: get driven off a cliff by this? We will address.

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Speaker 1: But first off, you know, play occasionally we have a

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Speaker 1: moment here on this show that all the other shows

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Speaker 1: have to talk about. Hat tip to you, sir for

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Speaker 1: asking about a pardon for Donald Trump if Ronda Santis

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Speaker 1: becomes the president. Obviously becoming the just the nominee is

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Speaker 1: not a you know, it would be fun if you

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Speaker 1: had pardon powers of nominee that that would really spice

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Speaker 1: things up. But here is a bunch of places talking

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Speaker 1: about what we talked about. So here's your Friday montage

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Speaker 1: play one.

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Speaker 2: The newly official presidential candidate ron De Santis.

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Speaker 1: Was just asked if he pardoned January sixth insurrectionist governor

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Speaker 1: DeSantis has said he would look at pardons pardoning January

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Speaker 1: sixth riders. Rond de Santis today it said he was

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Speaker 1: open to January sixth pardons.

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Speaker 3: De Santis made the comments on a conservative radio show.

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Speaker 1: He made the comments on a radio show. Appearing on

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Speaker 1: a conservative talk show today.

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Speaker 2: The governor told another conservative radio host.

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Speaker 1: DeSantis was asked today if he would pardon January sixth

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Speaker 1: rioters and possibly Trump, and he'd also consider parting Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: suggests that they could pardon Trump.

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Speaker 2: Ronda Santis today today said he consider pardoning Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say, Clay to me, what's interesting here?

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Speaker 1: Not only that you know, we're making the global news

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Speaker 1: can see that they're they're hedging their bets right. They

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Speaker 1: He's connected to January sixth to two. He's just as

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Speaker 1: bad fascism is coming to America. They're gonna do the thing.

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Speaker 1: We can see them doing the thing.

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Speaker 3: Well, I saw Liz Cheney tweeted, and I'm paraphrasing, it's

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Speaker 3: a if you are willing to pardon anyone from January sixth, there,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, you're not qualified to be president. And I

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Speaker 3: would establish if you are running for the Republican nomination,

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Speaker 3: the Liz Cheney rule. Almost anything she tweets, you should

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Speaker 3: do the opposite of. But but there are a couple

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Speaker 3: things that I think are significant, and I'm glad you

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Speaker 3: know that that this conversation took place, because I do

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Speaker 3: Republican candidate for president say that he would consider pardoning Trump. Now,

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Speaker 3: people remember who listened to this show. I think it

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Speaker 3: this is a matter of principle, and I think it

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Speaker 3: is a strong statement to make that, regardless of what

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Speaker 3: your personal misgivings might be about Trump, if you're running

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Speaker 3: against him for the Republican nomination, you should be standing

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Speaker 3: on principle.

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Speaker 1: That the idea of putting a leading.

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Speaker 3: Presidential candidate or a former president in jail for a

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Speaker 3: crime that is purely being prosecuted based on politics. I'm

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Speaker 3: leaving out look if the president former president shoots someone right,

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Speaker 3: like a driving accident for that correct, But I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about something theoretically, Yeah, I'm talking about something that is

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Speaker 3: purely political in nature. I think every Republican should line

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Speaker 3: up running for president and say we're not going to

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Speaker 3: allow Trump to be put in prison for federal related charges.

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Speaker 1: You know what I thought about yesterday when you said this,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's it's interesting because it goes right

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Speaker 1: to the dynamics of the primary going on right now.

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Speaker 1: Because to me and we're an agreement on this one,

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Speaker 1: it is both the ethical and politically savvy move for

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Speaker 1: say I'm going to pardon Trump. It's ethical because I

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Speaker 1: do we all know that the Get Trump operation is

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Speaker 1: completely insane. They've got so many criminal cases and everything

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Speaker 1: then politically because it shows a willingness to rise above parties,

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Speaker 1: rise above intra party rivalry, to just do the right

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Speaker 1: thing under the circumstances. But I think you're not hearing

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Speaker 1: any of the other primary candidates say it, because to

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump isn't going to be the nominee and then

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Speaker 3: It's like you can't even say that well because those

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Speaker 3: and everybody else is running to hope to be in

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration. That's what it feels like to me. Now,

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Speaker 3: the other part of this buck that I think is significant.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned this yesterday and I don't know if Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Certainly Biden's not smart enough to think through this, but

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Speaker 3: it would be a political master stroke for Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: to actually pardon Trump because then he can say this

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Speaker 3: I'm standing on principle, and I think it would actually

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Speaker 3: play really well with independence because I don't think independents

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Speaker 1: It shows that he wants calm, normalcy. It's what he

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Speaker 1: claimed he wanted when he ran for pres. Twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden should say that you rather twenty twenty Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden if he were making a comeback here, I totally

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Speaker 1: agree with you that that is the ultimate, really alpha

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna beat his ass in the election, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not even afraid of Trump, and I'm going to keep

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Speaker 1: But I think there's also almost note I'd say like

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Speaker 1: a ten percent chance of it. It's not zero chance.

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Speaker 1: But because the Biden base has been told, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: Trump is going to prison, they really believe that, and

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Speaker 1: now I think they're actually trying to make it a reality.

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Speaker 1: So so pardoning him in any capacity for Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: what I I don't know. It depends whether they get

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Speaker 1: the messaging that this is necessary for them to retain power,

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Speaker 1: or you know, if there's some advantage to them. But

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Speaker 1: I think in general, emotionally they demand Trump in handcuffs,

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Speaker 1: which is completely insane.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Biden is adroit enough politically to pull

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Speaker 3: it off, because the guy can barely read off a teleprompter.

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Speaker 3: If he could go out, I mean, this is the

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Speaker 3: soul of the nation stuff that Biden likes to sell

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Speaker 3: all the time. Oh, I'm here to heal the soul

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Speaker 3: Really, he's been the worst president in any of our lives,

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Speaker 3: and he's been wildly divisive. So this would actually follow

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Speaker 3: the rhetoric that he is not allowed to be implemented

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Speaker 1: I don't think he'll do it.

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Speaker 3: That's the one thing I wonder, because remember, you would

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Speaker 3: still have New York and Georgia potentially with the criminal

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Speaker 3: cases against Trump, so you'd still have the criminal element

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Speaker 1: This would just allow this to go away.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the play is Biden pardons Hunter too, and pardons

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Speaker 3: this is just an example of how toxic our politics

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Speaker 3: I've gotten. I'm gonna pardon the president and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: pardon my son. Maybe then that's the way that he

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Speaker 3: Maybe that is a play. But again, I just don't

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Speaker 3: making a rational, reasonable, risky move that would actually redound,

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Speaker 3: I think much to his benefit.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm having some twenty sixteen flashbacks in a

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Speaker 1: few ways, but one of them is you're already starting

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Speaker 1: to see because remember, going on twenty twenty, there was

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Speaker 1: it was all it was Trump and the Republican Party

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Speaker 1: was ninety eight percent ninety nine percent behind Trump the

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Speaker 1: president obviously, And this time around, though, it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit like it wasn't twenty sixteen where you had you know,

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Speaker 1: But did you see that we had Josh Hammer, who's

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Here they are on I think this

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Speaker 2: DeSantis's botched campaign announcement proves that he and his team

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Speaker 2: are not ready for prime time. He proposes a national

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Speaker 2: federal sales tax. He voted to cut social Security. He

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Speaker 2: has no plan to end the war in Ukraine. President

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Speaker 2: Trump cut taxes, secure the border, reinvested in our economy.

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Speaker 2: He is the day one leader that America needs.

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Speaker 5: Look, I mean, Carolyn has the talking points and that's

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Speaker 3: In our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis and he basically Trump has taken the side

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Speaker 3: of Disney. DeSantis came out and said, look, Trump's taking

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Speaker 3: Disney side. Listen to this discussion last night with I

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Speaker 3: believe Eric Bowling on Newsmax Putton.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 6: Some of the things he's been attacking me on I've

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Speaker 6: been a little surprised at because he's attacking me from

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Speaker 6: the left, and that really wasn't that Donald Trump from

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Speaker 6: twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen. I mean, he was a

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Speaker 6: hard charger, leaning in on all the issues, very edgy

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Speaker 6: on conservative issues, and it was part of the reason

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Speaker 6: he did so well. But when he's taken disney side

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Speaker 6: against me, I just kind of wonder, like, Okay, I

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Speaker 6: get he wants to hit me, but don't take the

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Speaker 6: side of a multinational corporation that wants the sexualized kids.

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Speaker 6: He's also hitting me against voting against immigration amnesty, to

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Speaker 6: hit me for being taken the America first position. I

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Speaker 6: just think as a little little strange. I'm not sure

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Speaker 6: what his strategy is, but I think he's taking positions

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Speaker 6: that are a little bit different than four or five

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Speaker 6: years ago.

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Speaker 3: Would you have ever believed, Buck, because I I candidly

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Speaker 3: would not that a Republican primary debate would be fought

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Speaker 3: over whether Disney should be supported or not. This, to

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Speaker 3: me is a testament to how much of a disaster

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Speaker 3: Bob Eigers leadership of Disney. And I saw it initially

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Speaker 3: coming Buck, because I saw what they did to ESPN,

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Speaker 3: and so the way that they turned ESPN, which used

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Speaker 3: to be you know, I'd get up in the morning, Buck,

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Speaker 3: I'd pour my my cereal.

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Speaker 1: Watched it in college it was sports.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you put on Sports Center. I know we're crazy.

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Speaker 3: You put on Sports Center, you would see you.

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Speaker 1: Who won or not?

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Speaker 3: And now you know, Dan Patrick and Keith Oberman back

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Speaker 3: in the day were an iconic duo on Sports Center.

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Speaker 3: Now Keith Oberman is sending tweets at you and me

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Speaker 3: like that are just d completely deranged, lunatic.

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Speaker 1: But what is happening with Disney.

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Speaker 3: I saw happen at ESPN, That's why I found it

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Speaker 3: out kick, and now I see it going on at

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Speaker 3: the larger corporate level. And I do think it's strange. Buck,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you tell me if you disagree. I think

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Speaker 3: it's strange that Donald Trump is coming down on the

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Speaker 3: side of Disney when the bills that were put in

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Speaker 3: place in Florida don't teach, you know, kindergarten, first second

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Speaker 3: third graders about sex related issues. I got a second grader.

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Speaker 3: He just finished school, by the way, yesterday. He's now

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Speaker 3: for the summer. Congrats to Nash my youngest. I don't

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Speaker 3: want him taught sex related things in second grade.

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Speaker 1: That's absurd.

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Speaker 3: And so the idea that Trump would be as he

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Speaker 3: put out his attack ad on DeSantis yesterday that we

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Speaker 3: played on the show coming down on the side of

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Speaker 3: Disney and against DeSantis is really strange because now Trump's

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Speaker 3: on the side of big business.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think one thing we're gonna see is that

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Speaker 1: for people for whom Trump is already the guy, there

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Speaker 1: will be a sense that how did he win in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen? And it was this, you know, ambush, no rules,

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Speaker 1: do whatever you do to win because capaign, but but

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Speaker 1: because that's what you're up against with the Democrats. So

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Speaker 1: this anything, no holds barred, anything goes and and that

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Speaker 1: worked in twenty sixteen. And it worked also because he

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Speaker 1: was a true political outsider. And so the question now becomes,

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Speaker 1: as a former president and somebody who had four years

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Speaker 1: in office, can you really do that again? Right, because

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Speaker 1: now you don't just know that you were the system. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And this is another part of it that people keep saying, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's an outsider. You're not a political outsider when you

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Speaker 1: were the president. I hate to be maybe a little

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Speaker 1: a little harsh on this, but you're no longer now.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you don't have an outsider's mentality about

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Speaker 1: d C. It doesn't. But we have to add some

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Speaker 1: perspective here. It's not someone who does it. It's not like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I've the guy had the nuclear codes. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: this is this is the absolute top of the government

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Speaker 1: is being the president. And so I just wonder how

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Speaker 1: the strategy works. Now to your point about DeSantis and Disney,

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Speaker 1: to take whatever position in the primary is advantageous in

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Speaker 1: his mind to win. Does that work irrespective of what

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Speaker 1: it would change for a general election position?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because I think and correct me if I'm wrong. If

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Speaker 1: there's some people who are all in and we heard

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Speaker 1: from like three all in Trump supporters just in the

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Speaker 1: last hour, you're all in on Trump already in the primary.

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Speaker 1: Is this just Trump doing what he has to do

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Speaker 1: to outflank DeSantis because this is a no holds barred primary,

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Speaker 1: or is this Trump actually changed? Is this really his

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Speaker 1: position or is this just to beat DeSantis? That's essentially

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Speaker 1: what I'm asking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and my question would be what does Trump disagree

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Speaker 3: about what DeSantis has done with Disney? Because I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: be honest with you every step of the way that remember,

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Speaker 3: Disney threw the first punch at Ron DeSantis. And you

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Speaker 3: can say, and this was there coming out against the

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Speaker 3: bill that huge majorities of parents support, which is why.

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Speaker 3: I think it's emblematic of how much Disney has lost

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Speaker 3: their way. Remember what Disney did. They came out and said,

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Speaker 3: we disagree with a Florida bill that doesn't allow sexuality

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Speaker 3: to be taught to kindergarten, first, second, and third graders.

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Speaker 3: I mean, why in the world did Disney take that

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Speaker 3: perspective in the first place. Disney's perspective is radical left

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Speaker 3: wing here and not supported by most parents.

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Speaker 1: So if you're DeSantis, you could.

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Speaker 3: Take that punch, right, Sometimes you take a punch and

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Speaker 3: not respond. But no, DeSantis came back and said, wait

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Speaker 3: a minute, Disney, if you're going to try to tell

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Speaker 3: Florida people how we can raise our kids, then I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to allow you to get favorable political treatment

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Speaker 3: when it comes to zoning on your amusement parks, the

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Speaker 3: so called Reedy Creek, which is basically just given Disney

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Speaker 3: the ability to do whatever they want with that property.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to give you special treatment.

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Speaker 3: So then they took away that like that seems he's

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Speaker 3: totally rational to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems to me also that at the state level,

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Speaker 1: that's what Disney had its kind of the swamp. I know,

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Speaker 1: Disney beloved, reparation, all this stuff. But yeah, but they

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Speaker 1: had a special deal. They had a extra edge over

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Speaker 1: their competitive and Sea World don't have for instance. So

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Speaker 1: isn't the swamp when it's people that are leveraging their

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Speaker 1: connections to get unfair advantages over other players? So to me,

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Speaker 1: and you know, swamps in Florida mean a different thing.

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Speaker 1: I think they're swamps, are beloved wetlands down here. They're

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Speaker 1: not swamps. But you all know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 1: a different situation a little bit. So you know again,

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Speaker 1: and when we ask these questions and we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: to calls in the back half of this hour or

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Speaker 1: two on this, you know, we really put it out there.

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Speaker 1: We're we're just watching and observing this primary too, like

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Speaker 1: all of you, and trying to understand the strategies. And

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Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be hits for both sides. There's

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Speaker 1: gonna be misses for both sides. And I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna learn, We're gonna learn a lot in the weeks

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Speaker 1: ahead about how all this stuff is being addressed. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that we always have to be

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Speaker 1: rooted in what is reality? What do we know? And

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Speaker 1: I've never seen. I don't understand the argument about Disney

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Speaker 1: and DeSantis within the right seemed to me like it

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Speaker 1: was already said of the long time before the primary,

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Speaker 1: which is, unless you want Woll corporations telling your twelve

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Speaker 1: year olds that they're actually transgender, you got to do something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I understand the idea. In nineteen sixty nine,

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Speaker 3: I think was when Disney basically opened disney World or

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Speaker 3: began to buy all that property, Florida was a different place,

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Speaker 3: so they were super excited for Disney to come. I

581
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Speaker 3: think a lot of people who are in Florida now

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Speaker 3: are like, Yeah, Disney's fortunate to be located in Florida

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Speaker 3: because guess what, they kept Disney World open when Disneyland

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Speaker 3: got shut down for a year.

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually curious eight.

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Speaker 3: Hundred and two eight two two eight eight two what

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Speaker 3: would you argue DeSantis did wrong with Florida? Uh as

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Speaker 3: it pertains to the battle with Disney, because if Trump's

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Speaker 3: gonna rip him on the relationship with Disney, and I

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Speaker 3: would say the same thing to Trump, what would you

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Speaker 3: have done different? Because when I look at the way

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Speaker 3: that the Disney battle went, I don't know that I

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Speaker 3: would change anything. So if you're out there listening to

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Speaker 3: us right now again target bud Light, I think people parents, conservatives,

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Speaker 3: people on the right, people on the middle, people maybe

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Speaker 3: even a little bit to the left, are finally fighting

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Speaker 3: back against this woe agenda.

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Speaker 1: What did they get wrong?

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Speaker 3: What if you're supporting the Trump attack on Disney, what

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Speaker 3: did DeSantis do wrong? Because I don't see it. I

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Speaker 3: don't see that as a fertile attack. And I also

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Speaker 3: just don't see that Desantas did anything wrong at all.

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Speaker 1: So Claire. We mentioned this yesterday. This Florida man twenty

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Speaker 1: He was drunk. And we actually have some audio of

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Speaker 1: the guy play it lose my life, lost an arm.

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Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world. So he's got

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Speaker 1: a pretty good attitude about the situation that he just

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Speaker 1: lost an arm to an alligator. And I put out

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Speaker 1: this pole, and I was wondering what your answer would

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Speaker 1: be the worst way? Now he's he's fine.

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Speaker 5: He lost.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he lost an arm, but he's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: The worst way to to if you were gonna, if

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Speaker 1: you were gonna bite it, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna, if you're at the end, shark, crocodile, bear, lion.

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Speaker 1: I put out the pole. Which one do you go with?

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna give you my answer, but we've got to come back,

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Speaker 3: and I've got to read you the quotes from this guy.

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Speaker 3: I know we played that one little short segment, so

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Speaker 3: just so you guys know, I know it's a Memorial

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Speaker 3: Day weekend. A lot of you are gonna be out

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Speaker 3: at the beach, maybe a lot of you traveling around

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Speaker 3: in Florida. This guy lost his arm because he said

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Speaker 3: it was too crowded buck the bathroom line, so he

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Speaker 3: went into cited to pee by a lake. And when

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Speaker 3: I play, when I read some of these quotes for you,

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Speaker 3: not this I'm reading from the New York Post. These

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Speaker 1: Don't give us the answer yet, but I want to

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Speaker 3: Buck Sexton Show Friday Edition as we roll into the

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Speaker 3: holiday weekend. Okay, I tease this and I saw these quotes,

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Speaker 3: and Buck and I were texting this story back and

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Speaker 3: forth because it was just so crazy.

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Speaker 1: This guy, this Florida guy.

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Speaker 3: I want everybody to be careful out there, especially if

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Speaker 3: you're going down to Florida for the holidays. Here this guy,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Rivera said the line was too long at the bathroom,

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Speaker 3: so he decided to go down by the lake to

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Speaker 3: go pee. And here's his quotes. These are real quotes.

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Speaker 3: I just saw little lake so I was trying to

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Speaker 3: go over there and take a little pe say, he

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Speaker 3: didn't realize how big the pond actually was.

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Speaker 1: This is a quote.

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Speaker 3: Something happened where I either tripped or the ground below

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Speaker 3: me kind of just went down, and I ended up

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Speaker 3: in the water. And that's literally the last thing I remember. Okay, Buck,

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I'm gonna bet that

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Speaker 3: this guy was pretty drunk. Because when you say something

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Speaker 3: happened where I either tripped or the ground below me

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Speaker 3: kind of went down and I ended up in the water,

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Speaker 3: it's bad enough to end up in the water. He

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Speaker 3: ended up in the water with a ten foot alligator

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Speaker 3: that took his arm.

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Speaker 1: Here's a quote.

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Speaker 3: I looked over and I saw my arm the way

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Speaker 3: it was, and I was like, whoa. It was the

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Speaker 3: craziest thing. It was almost like out of a movie.

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Speaker 3: And then we had the quote where he says I

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Speaker 3: didn't lose my life. He says they don't even serve food.

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Speaker 3: He said he wanted this is the other thing. He said,

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Speaker 3: there's gossip that he decided he was gonna go hand

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Speaker 3: feet in an alligator, and he said he wants to

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Speaker 3: dispel that rumor. They don't even serve food at the bar.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't have even served the gator food. It's completely not true.

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Speaker 3: And he said again, these guys saved his life. Another

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Speaker 3: amazing quote. The first thing I would do is shake

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Speaker 3: the man's hand, said Rivera, perhaps forgetting that he lost

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Speaker 3: the arm, said, it feels like it's kind of there anyway,

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Speaker 3: Angel saved him. The US rest question on him to

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Speaker 3: stop the bleeding, to try to try to to save

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Speaker 3: this arm. All right, So I would say, of all

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Speaker 3: the things that could happen when you leave and go outside,

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Speaker 3: buck full disclosure, have you ever left a crowded bar

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Speaker 3: because you couldn't get to the bathroom and gone outside

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Speaker 3: to pee?

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Speaker 1: Fifth on this lad, I will just I will admit

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 3: I one hundred percent have seen long lines in the

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Speaker 3: bathroom before gone out side.

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Speaker 1: This guy was just gonna go pee in the p

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Speaker 1: in the lake, he says.

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Speaker 3: Next thing you know, he's attacked by an alligator and

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Speaker 3: loses his arm. That is the worst result of the

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Speaker 3: bar line being too too long for the bathroom.

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Speaker 1: So I gave you the options if you're meeting your

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Speaker 1: maker because shark, crocodile, bear, or lion attack. And I

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Speaker 1: have data to back this up.

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Speaker 3: I think I think it's crocodile, and I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: why my worst I think crocodile would be the worst.

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Speaker 3: I know, alligator crocodile, this is an allex but you

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Speaker 3: know this is a large reptile that eats you. I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you my theory on why it's the worst. Two

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Speaker 3: analysis points. One in the water. I think not only

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Speaker 3: would you be likely to be attacked by an alligator

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Speaker 3: of crocodile, you would know that you were being eaten,

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Speaker 3: ripped to pieces. But I also think the likelihood is

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Speaker 3: you probably would drown. So drowning is supposedly an awful

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Speaker 3: way to go.

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Speaker 1: They do the death roll. That's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think you combine getting killed by a

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Speaker 3: live animal and also drowning, which sounds like the worst

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Speaker 3: possible way to go other than like getting burned to

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Speaker 3: death or something, which.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you it was. It was shocking to

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Speaker 1: see there are this little pole, Little Friday poll. There

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Speaker 1: are thousands of people that weighed in four thousand plus votes.

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Speaker 1: Crocodile came in with the worst way to think in

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Speaker 1: the animal kingdom. At least of these options. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to throw hippopotamus on there, because they're actually incredibly dangerous,

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Speaker 1: and I just feel like no one, you know, going

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Speaker 1: by a hippo would be like getting eaten by a

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Speaker 1: panda bear, Like we still think of them as cute,

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Speaker 1: even though they're actually quite dangerous. But it was fascinating

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Speaker 1: to read the analysis that people came up with Clay.

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Speaker 1: In the comments, people went deep on the like various

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there must be a lot of

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Speaker 1: ems folks that are following me on Twitter because they're

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Speaker 1: talking about the difference in how but everyone was like, lion,

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Speaker 1: No big deal. Lions are apparently they're just like, ah,

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Speaker 1: they grab you by the neck, You're out like a light,

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Speaker 1: no problem. I think they would end you quickly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they say end quickly. Shark, you're talking massive blood loss trauma.

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Speaker 1: That probably also pretty fast all things considered. Although just

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Speaker 1: being in the water, which you also have with the crocodile,

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Speaker 1: very scary. Some of the folks that wait him with

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Speaker 1: the bear one. The bear one was actually way worse

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Speaker 1: than I thought it would be because apparently bears they

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Speaker 1: kind of maul slowly. So anyway, people went very deep

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Speaker 1: into the comments here crocodile was the winner of the

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Speaker 1: worst A Bad way to go.

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Speaker 3: What do you think happened to this guy? Do you

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Speaker 3: think he was just My theory would be super drunk,

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Speaker 3: super drunk, passed out and then the allegant because I

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Speaker 3: don't believe the alligator was there like coming out of

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Speaker 3: the water, like I think he probably passed out. At

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Speaker 3: the water's edge was where alligators their ambush hunters. It's

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Speaker 3: where they do it. And and then you know it

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Speaker 3: was you know, it just went for it. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I mean that is I mean again when he says

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Speaker 3: like I was standing by the water, and I bet

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Speaker 3: he started to have a little bit of the spins.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he had a lot of drinks and then he

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Speaker 3: just went in the water. He's like he didim drink.

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Speaker 1: I asked carry this question recently and as a as

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Speaker 1: a transplanted New Yorker. It's just I feel like people

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Speaker 1: that live in these areas would never think about this.

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Speaker 1: So the the the habitat of the American alligator goes

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Speaker 1: up into it's obviously Florida's like you know Grand Central

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Speaker 1: for alligators, right, and then you go up and and

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Speaker 1: you see it Georgia plenty of alligators. Parts of eastern Texas.

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Speaker 1: There are all of southeastern Texas their alligators. But right around,

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Speaker 1: like the Carolinas, it starts to stop, right like you

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Speaker 1: the range slows down. But I asked, this is a

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Speaker 1: real question. We probably have an there must be a

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Speaker 1: zone where you think, oh, I'll just go swimming in

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Speaker 1: my lake house because there's like, there's no gators up here.

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Speaker 1: But actually, you know, I mean I think like like

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Speaker 1: maybe part of South Carolina or part of North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: like there have to be places where you think you're

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Speaker 1: in the safe zone and you're gonna go splashing around

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Speaker 1: in the pond, but maybe you've got a gator that's

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Speaker 1: you know, got a fleece, got a vest on or something.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point.

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Speaker 3: And also Florida people can get pretty cocky because you know,

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Speaker 3: you'll be out on your boat, you'll be out jet skiing,

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Speaker 3: you'll be out. They're not afraid of alligators, as I

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Speaker 3: would say, a lot of people elsewhere are. And the

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Speaker 3: other aspect of this is that that is such a

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Speaker 3: good point because there are places like Memphis, for instance,

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Speaker 3: has alleg.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I just checked books and Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: You're you think you're all safe in Tennessee and Clay's

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Speaker 1: home state. There are alligators in Tennessee, but not many.

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Speaker 1: There are now some around Memphis. And if you're in

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Speaker 1: North Alabama. Uh, I believe like around the Huntsville area

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Speaker 1: where the Tennessee River there's there's certain places where there

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Speaker 1: are a few alligators there. It definitely seems unfair that

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Speaker 1: you would, you know, go jump in a lake in

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Speaker 1: Memphis and suddenly from allegator. But you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: there was a there was one. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 1: total like the odds of this are one in a million.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was a great white a great white

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Speaker 1: shark attack, a fatal one up off the Islands of

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Speaker 1: Maine that happened a few years ago. So there's sometimes things,

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Speaker 1: crazy things happen.

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Speaker 3: There's a great uh shark attack book about I think

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Speaker 3: it was like in the nineteen twenties and it's part

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Speaker 3: of what inspired Jaws.

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Speaker 1: A Great Matawan Creek, I know, Oh dude, I could

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Speaker 1: see we're talking with monto One Creek all the time.

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Speaker 1: Three attacks in a few days. They think it was

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Speaker 1: a bull shark nineteen eleven. Maybe I think it was.

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Speaker 1: This is like way off the coast, right, somebody's seven

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Speaker 1: miles inland.

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Speaker 3: Seven miles inland. Yousually jump into a freshwater creek and

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Speaker 3: you get killed by a.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen sixteen off in the Jersey shore, there was a

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Speaker 1: brackish creek connecting to the ocean. It was nineteen sixteen.

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Speaker 3: That's a great book. What's the name of the book

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Speaker 3: that they wrote about this? They think it was one

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Speaker 3: shark that killed tons of people because at the time,

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Speaker 3: and it goes all into.

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Speaker 1: The history close to shore, the terrifying shark attacks of

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixteen. Is that the one I read?

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Speaker 3: I may be the book I read, A fantastic one

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Speaker 3: about this particular shark attack where they think it was one.

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Speaker 1: There's one called I Survived the Shark Attacks.

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Speaker 3: Well that's for kids, Oh and I Survived books are

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Speaker 3: actually my boys really liked the I Survived Shark tac books.

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Speaker 3: But if you want one to scare you, as we're

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Speaker 3: for the first time, I'll look up during commercial break

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Speaker 3: But it is really well done because it dives into

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Speaker 3: but for a long time, people didn't know whether sharks

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Speaker 3: didn't used to go into the ocean as leisure, right, Like, Oh,

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Speaker 3: you're just gonna go swim in the ocean like that

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