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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lallie. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. It is a Thursday on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Thursday on a Wednesday, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow will be a Thursday Friday on a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Yes it will.

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Speaker 1: It's how it works out for us these Saturday games.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to get used to this now, it's starting

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Speaker 2: to be a regular thing. It's messive with me for

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Speaker 2: a while, but that's all right.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting in the Steelers meeting room and now

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Speaker 1: I'm like, is today Tuesday or today Wednesday? Okay, today's Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: but it's really Thursday.

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Speaker 2: They felt like Thursday to me. It's like some of

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Speaker 2: the things that always come out on Thursday I was

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Speaker 2: looking for. I'm like, that's not today. Yeah, not to

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Speaker 2: mention these.

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Speaker 1: I got the league packet this morning. I'm like, wait,

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Speaker 1: today Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Today's Wednesday Wednesday. Okay, there you have it. And

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Speaker 2: then the other thing screws you up, of course, or

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Speaker 2: the holidays too. It's like, yeah, you know, I didn't

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Speaker 2: have a show on Monday and all you know, once

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Speaker 2: all I got to see family at Christmas and all

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Speaker 2: that stuff screws you all up.

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Speaker 1: It's really kind of made the season in many ways

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Speaker 1: go a little bit faster than it typically does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not as much of a grind.

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Speaker 1: It never really got into a rhythm where it's Sunday game,

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Speaker 1: Sunday game, Sunday game, Sunday. You know, it's Monday game here,

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Speaker 1: Thursday game that week. Two Thursday games this year, three

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Speaker 1: Saturday games. Now, like you know, you throw Monday night

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Speaker 1: or in there and it's like, wow.

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Speaker 2: A short week and then we got a long week

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Speaker 2: and then it rarely is there. You know, you don't

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Speaker 2: have this advantage very often of a Sunday The Steelers

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Speaker 2: don't play where you just watch the league, you know.

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Speaker 1: Like often, but the Saturday games I've been able to

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, uh, the Steelers practicing today a real practice

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Speaker 1: on the field.

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Speaker 2: And Thursday practice.

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Speaker 1: Would you say it was a Thursday type practice? And

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Speaker 1: so Kenny Pickett a full participant once again today. Trent

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Speaker 1: and Thompson the safety limited again today. Now he said

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Speaker 1: last week he didn't expect to play this week, but

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Speaker 1: we'll see how It's that next stinger kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think they're hard to predict from Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you just don't know.

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Speaker 1: So, but the fact that he was able to practice

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Speaker 1: two days in a row is promising.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Naujie Harris after being limited yesterday, did not practice day,

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Speaker 1: but he was the only stealer to not practice.

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Speaker 2: I mean he took a beating.

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Speaker 1: Not concerned about that at all, perfectly fine, Uh make it.

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick after not practicing yesterday, he was limited participant today.

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Speaker 1: So that's trending in the right direction, as was a

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Speaker 1: land In Roberts.

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Speaker 2: Wow, when he got hurt. I thought it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that could have been bad. Isaac Samalo,

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Speaker 1: after being limited yesterday, was a full participant today.

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Speaker 3: Uh t J.

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Speaker 1: Watt was limited today. They were just resting him. Same

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Speaker 1: with Larry Ogan Joby and then Cam Hayward once again

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Speaker 2: So all in all, it's pretty good. It's pretty darn

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Speaker 2: good for January, you know, week eighteen, and you know,

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Speaker 2: do you haven't been able to rest anyone. Obviously, I'd

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Speaker 2: be really intrigued with the the quartet of Peterson, Fitzpatrick,

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Speaker 2: Roberts Jack.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of the field, that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: NFL games, and there right under your belt right up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe you'd even see it next year, who knows. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean like there's that's kind of intriguing to get

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe next year, who knows.

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Speaker 1: Are you there with Miles Shack at this point?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean.

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Speaker 1: He's kinda like if they came back next year, obviously,

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Speaker 1: hulkm Yeah, and Miles Jack, I'm interested.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing with Jack is I would love and

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Speaker 2: Yeoman's work doing that now. But he's always been a

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Speaker 2: I mean even in Jacksonville, he's not always a practice

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Speaker 2: like I think those things have been and he retired.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like there's some facts against it. The only

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Speaker 2: thing is none of them are the Kwan Alexander type.

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Speaker 2: You know, like you could draft one as you could

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Speaker 1: A fourth or fifth rounder. I mean those guys, if

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Speaker 1: you look in every draft, there's a bunch of those

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Speaker 1: safety types.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit leaner that runs a four or

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Speaker 2: five to two or something and has some linebacker worked.

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Speaker 1: And we assume that Hulcombe will get regain his h.

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Speaker 2: I think that would be fine, and it would still

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Speaker 2: be cost effective. That's not a ton invested in the position, no,

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Speaker 2: for sure, which I don't think they want to do.

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Speaker 2: unless you have a roquand you're not going to pay

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Speaker 1: The other interesting thing that they did last Sunday as well,

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Speaker 1: it was like seventeen snaps. I think of Miles killer

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Speaker 2: The dime linebacker. Yeah, I don't know if that's ideal.

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Speaker 1: He's got the size and hitting yeah to do that

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's leaner than that. One. I mean

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Speaker 2: more nickel. I mean, they're really low in nickel, and

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Speaker 2: that they're often very heavy or often very light. Even

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Speaker 1: Your corners, especially next year. You go into next year

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Speaker 1: and Porter's one starting cornerback. You got Peterson and Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 1: outside the organization moves, you know, and again another big boy.

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Speaker 2: That's true that Peterson and Minka could also do slot stuff,

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Speaker 2: So no, it's intriguing you mix in some youth and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the dime to me is one of

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Speaker 1: the secondary, Okay, you got guys that are back there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're not quite as big as Josh Allen, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or the Lamars or those type of dudes too.

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Speaker 2: And you know, all the athletic tight ends your face

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Speaker 2: because it's working for them. There's other ways. There's not

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Speaker 2: one way to skin that cat. But it is nice

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Speaker 2: when you can do like the Bills did with Edmunds

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Speaker 2: run and track down you know, quarterbacks. Well, so that's

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Speaker 2: the ideal situation for me, if you can get somewhere

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the Baltimore Ravens, John Harvar coming out today

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Speaker 1: and saying, Lamar Jackson will not play this weekend. It's

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Speaker 2: Not the slightest bit surprising, no, no, right, but it

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Speaker 2: is newsworthy. What I thought was more newsworthy is what

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Speaker 2: you said before we went on the air. Is Josh

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Speaker 2: Johnson's going to be the two? Yeah, not that he's

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Speaker 2: not worthy. I just thought, boy, this is a great

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Speaker 2: opportunity to see what Malie Cunningham could do in a

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Speaker 2: could have three active, but that's not usually what teams do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll see he's Johnson's been

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's not better. Yeah, I mean if

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Speaker 2: the line, I might pick Johnson.

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Speaker 1: And there's there's probably a good chance of Steelers might

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Speaker 2: It's quite possible. Yeah, it's quite possible. So we'll see

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Speaker 2: what you know, what is sure, they know what Johnson

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Speaker 1: But when their practice report comes out, we'll see a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of you know who else didn't practice

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Speaker 2: So true it's a Saturday game third about five or

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Speaker 2: six Ravens, And I'm curious with some of the practice

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Speaker 2: report stuff because of injury that I think will probably

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Speaker 2: not dress or will just stand there holding their helmet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, you have to dress and you

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Speaker 1: know enough to get through the game. But that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean they're going to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Ronnie Stanley might sit there at the pads

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Speaker 2: on and not even get in the.

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Speaker 1: Game or break in case of emergenci if the left.

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Speaker 2: Tackle goes down, well, Ronnie go finish it out. You know,

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Speaker 2: things like that.

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Speaker 1: Steelers named their Rookie of the Year today. They've just

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Speaker 1: been voted on by the Pro Football Writers of America

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Speaker 1: and it was Joey Porter Jr. That was almost unanimous.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a very easy choice. But Benton Jones

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Speaker 2: would have won it many years, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I was there when we had to Patrick Bailey the

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Speaker 1: He's played the most.

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Speaker 2: Shootout even I mean they go to three on three,

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think they're worried about the star d

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Speaker 2: Oh, the tie, the tie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, all you need the Chargers needed to do

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Speaker 1: I expected to be somewi close.

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Speaker 1: this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, underrated, tough place to play in Tennessee, Miami. Everyone

441
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Speaker 2: kind of knows, especially early in the year and the

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Speaker 2: weather and sun and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you look at it the only there

444
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Speaker 1: are only nine teams in the NFL with losing records

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Speaker 1: at home this season.

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Speaker 2: That's impressible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So in home teams are one forty two and

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Speaker 1: one oh nine this season. Now, just a couple of

449
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Speaker 1: years ago during COVID, Yeah, the last previous couple of

450
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Speaker 1: seasons that was hovering on five hundred, including the one

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Speaker 1: the COVID season in twenty twenty where home teams had

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Speaker 1: a losing.

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Speaker 2: Bat below five hundred for the first time forever.

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Speaker 1: So this is bounced back now to where there's actually

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Speaker 1: an actual home field advantage again. And both teams are

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Speaker 1: pretty strong now. Yeah, both teams the Steelers need to lose,

457
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Speaker 1: are playing on.

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Speaker 2: The road, had that going against them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point.

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Speaker 1: So the odds favor at least one of those teams losing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you did a bunch of homework on this obviously,

463
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Speaker 2: and then you sent me the site where it just

464
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Speaker 2: shows the history of the league and home roads splits

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Speaker 2: and all that. And there was those three years that

466
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Speaker 2: kind of stood out whole, the COVID years when there

467
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Speaker 2: were COVID designations and no one in the stands of

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Speaker 2: one year where it was close to five hundred. But

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Speaker 2: other than that, it's back to normal. Because there was

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Speaker 2: a big stretch there. People were saying, like home field

471
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Speaker 2: advantage is dead. Yeah, you know, travels easier now, you know,

472
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Speaker 2: jets are more luxurious and it's not as hard on

473
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Speaker 2: their bodies and modern technology. But no home field matters.

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Speaker 2: It still does. I mean, he's still got to hear

475
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Speaker 2: and I don't want to travel and yeah right, I

476
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Speaker 2: mean it's just the game day stuff of it all.

477
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Speaker 2: Or boy, I'm used to playing in a dome or

478
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Speaker 2: I'm used to playing in weather things like that. I

479
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Speaker 2: mean it matters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, We're gonna get to a break when we return.

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Speaker 1: We got Bob Labriola a day early this week, so

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Bob when we return. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Alli. He is the Matt Williamson and we

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Speaker 1: are pleased to be joined by the Lord of Living

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Speaker 1: in his fears. Bob Labriola, editor of Steelers Digestive, Steelers

487
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Speaker 1: dot Com and Bob Steelers are Still Alive, went to

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Speaker 1: Seattle and did something they hadn't done since nineteen eighty three,

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Speaker 1: which was beat the Seahawks out there. Anything's possible.

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Speaker 3: Huh yeah, And I was. I gotta admit I was

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Speaker 3: really impressed with you know how that came about because

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Speaker 3: you know, it seemed to me that, you know, when

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Speaker 3: you looked at the Steelers the condition of the Steelers defense.

494
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Speaker 3: By that, I mean the situation at not only inside linebacker,

495
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Speaker 3: but also at safety, and then you look at you know,

496
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Speaker 3: Geno Smith and DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett, you know

497
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Speaker 3: those people. You know, it just seemed to me that

498
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Speaker 3: you couldn't play I'll say, you couldn't play it straight.

499
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Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is, you know, you

500
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Speaker 3: had to figure out ways. I think you couldn't depend

501
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Speaker 3: on your defense to do what the defense normally would do.

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Speaker 3: I think you really had to limit their exposure. You

503
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Speaker 3: had to kind of make concessions maybe is a better

504
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Speaker 3: way to describe, make concessions for the condition of your

505
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Speaker 3: defense at a couple of positions where the Seahawks I

506
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Speaker 3: thought were pretty well equipped to exploit those areas. And

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Speaker 3: you know, uh, pounding the rock, as they say, is

508
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Speaker 3: certainly way to do it. You finish with you know,

509
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Speaker 3: fifteen more minutes a time of possession, run twenty two

510
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Speaker 3: more plays, make seven trips in the red zone, and

511
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Speaker 3: while you weren't perfect in those trips, you scored at

512
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Speaker 3: least a field goal each time. I just thought that,

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Speaker 3: you know, it was really it was a good game plan.

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Speaker 3: It was executed well, and you know, really I won't

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Speaker 3: say they had very trim margin for air, but I

516
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Speaker 3: thought there was a very you know, fine line or

517
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Speaker 3: a specific recipe that the Steelers had to follow and

518
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Speaker 3: follow closely in order to be able to leave there

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Speaker 3: with a victory. And they did it all.

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Speaker 2: So analytics and stats nerds, you know, like myself can

521
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Speaker 2: easily overlook the value of a power back in the

522
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Speaker 2: tone that he sets. And I'm not discounting the blocking

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Speaker 2: or Warren or anyone else, but I just thought, nause

524
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Speaker 2: Harris gets the game ball for all those things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I've I've believe that, you know,

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Speaker 3: if you if you want to use a you know,

527
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Speaker 3: a term to describe nausey hairs or what his role

528
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Speaker 3: would be could be with this offense. To me, it's

529
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Speaker 3: tone center, you know, And I don't want to He's

530
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Speaker 3: not a closer so much as Jerome Bettis was at

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Speaker 3: the end of his career, because you know a lot

532
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Speaker 3: of times Bettis wouldn't come into the game until later

533
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Speaker 3: on in the process. You know, Nause still starts. But

534
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Speaker 3: tone Cetter to me, is is how I would describe it.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, he's a physical presence. You know, if if

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Speaker 3: guys need to be stiff armed to the ground, he

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Speaker 3: can do that. You know, He'll lower his shoulder, keep

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Speaker 3: his legs turning, just make himself difficult to tackle. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I got to believe that that exact toll on the

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Speaker 3: opposing defense, especially when you know the offense is playing

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Speaker 3: as well as it has lately. You know, we don't

542
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Speaker 3: we're not seeing Nause. You have to fight his way

543
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Speaker 3: back to the line of scrimmaging. And so yeah, he

544
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Speaker 3: is definitely a weapon or a tool that can be

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Speaker 3: used to continue or to enhance. That's the what I'm

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Speaker 3: looking for, enhance this style that the Steelers are playing now.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it just seemed to me too that

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Speaker 3: a lot of the success that Mason Rudolph was able

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Speaker 3: to have in the second half passing the ball, I

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Speaker 3: think it was nine of eleven or something like that

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Speaker 3: was due to what Nauseie Harrison, Jalen Wren We're doing

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Speaker 3: running the football early.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was just gonna say, Bob, because

554
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks at halftime said, we're not going to watch

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Speaker 1: you bludgeon our defensive front anymore. We're gonna start devoting

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Speaker 1: the safeties down into the box. We're gonna we're gonna

557
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Speaker 1: play like a bear front and get big upfront. And

558
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Speaker 1: the Steelers said, okay, if you're gonna do that, poop

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Speaker 1: over the top of George Pickens. Uh, here's another pass

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Speaker 1: of Deontay you know, whatever it was, you know, whatever

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Speaker 1: they wanted to do in those situations, but it was

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Speaker 1: all set up because of that running game, because they

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Speaker 1: were watching their guys get bludgeoned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Jonathan Vollma was the color analyst on.

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Speaker 1: The Fox broad Thank god, I couldn't hear that.

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Speaker 3: Well. I mean, the only reason I'm bringing them up is,

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Speaker 3: you know, he he played inside linebacker for a lot

568
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Speaker 3: of years and he was credited with a lot of tackles,

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Speaker 3: so he was he was on top of that right away,

570
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Speaker 3: mentioning how you know that the Steelers were winning the

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Speaker 3: battle controlling the line of scrimmers, the battle of a

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Speaker 3: hitting early on in the game, and he predicted, you

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Speaker 3: know what was gonna happen if the Seahawks were gonna

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Speaker 3: have to either change or you know there there was

575
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Speaker 3: just going to be a long, slow death mark for them,

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Speaker 3: because you can't win a game like that. You just can't,

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Speaker 3: especially when it got when the quarterback's not turning it over.

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Speaker 3: And you know that was a significant part of it

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Speaker 3: as well. So yeah, it was I'm impressed. I was impressed.

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Speaker 3: Uh And you know, coups to that offensive line, those

581
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Speaker 3: five guys plus you know Done Washington and you know

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Speaker 3: the tight ends and hey, they were getting blocked blocking

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Speaker 3: on the perimeter too. Uh. And I just think that

584
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Speaker 3: when when that's starting to work, and you know, the

585
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Speaker 3: players see it's having success and the impact that that

586
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Speaker 3: success is having on the opponent, they don't mind doing

587
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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. You know, Mike Toman told me

588
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Speaker 3: a long time about team chemistry and you know, all

589
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Speaker 3: of that kind of stuff. He says, you know, that's

590
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Speaker 3: all tied to winning. If you're winning, its successful. Everybody

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Speaker 3: loves everybody. Yeah, you know, that's that's the way an

592
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: NFL locker room is so you know, I think we're

593
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Speaker 3: starting to see some of that now from the fruits

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Speaker 3: of their their labors lately.

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Speaker 2: I also thought they protected well, you know, where are

596
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Speaker 2: you at the state of this offensive line right now?

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you pretty comfortable with where they're at?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I mean I And you know, I always

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Speaker 3: do a segment with Max and Wolf and I got

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Speaker 3: them going on because you know, I'm watching I'm watching

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Speaker 3: the game. I wasn't in the you know, press box

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Speaker 3: with Dale, thank god, And so I'm watching the game

603
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Speaker 3: and I really don't remember who was running the ball,

604
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Speaker 3: and I don't remember who the Seattle defender was. But

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00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: there was a play where Broderick Jones came right the

606
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: left and he put a guy on the ground. Okay

607
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Speaker 3: what what touch always called goring him? Put him on

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Speaker 3: the ground and just dove on him. And you know

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00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: that pretty much eliminates, you know, that guy from the picture.

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Speaker 3: And you know, that kind of thing I believe has

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Speaker 3: an impact beyond the block that you know in the yard,

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Speaker 3: beyond the block that created the artist that that created,

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Speaker 3: because you know, I just got to believe that that's

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Speaker 3: that's a painful thing for defensive player to go through.

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Speaker 3: And I don't believe for a second that the other

616
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Speaker 3: guys on that sideline are on the field for Seattle

617
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: didn't see that and think, oh God, this guy, you know,

618
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Speaker 3: he's an animal.

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Speaker 1: I don't want that happened to me.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the Stellers haven't had that since Martkeith Pounce.

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Speaker 3: You know, a guy that is not only an enforcer

622
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Speaker 3: maybe in your own locker room, but he is a

623
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Speaker 3: deterrent for a lot of misbehavior by the opponents too.

624
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: So you know, I got a lot of good feelings

625
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: about you know, this offensive line. I think they're playing

626
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: really really well.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing that they did in that game,

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Speaker 1: when you looked at it, there were only five guys

629
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Speaker 1: who touched the football who weren't the quarterback in center.

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Speaker 1: It was it was all George Pickens, Deontay Johnson, Friarmouth,

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Speaker 1: Nauje Harrison, Jaylen Warren. Is that a good thing or

632
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: is that a bad thing?

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Speaker 3: When it's working, it's a good thing, you know, No, really,

634
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Speaker 3: because this is I don't think that you know, it's

635
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: as I always used to say, you know, it's not

636
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: like going to an amusement park where everybody needs to

637
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: get a turn ride in Merry go round. You know,

638
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: if if two guys or five guys or whatever it is,

639
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: can can get the heavy lifting done and get you

640
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: what you need when you need it, why would you

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Speaker 3: go to anybody else?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I again, I this is this is the NFL. These

644
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: are games you have to win. You know, there's no

645
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: fantasy football being played, you know, on the Steelers sideline.

646
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: So if as an example, I'm trying to think of

647
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: a name here, Calvin Austin, the third doesn't have any

648
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: touches of the ball. You know, that's the way it is.

649
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: Maybe this week is his week. So no, I I

650
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: it's a good thing when it's working and you're winning.

651
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: Let me say it that way.

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Speaker 2: Not a slight on any of those guys, Heyward, Washington, Robinson, Austin,

653
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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of that also reflects on Rudolph.

654
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Speaker 2: I mean, when you design a play, your first read

655
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Speaker 2: or your second read is going to be to your

656
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: best players, obviously, and I think he's recognizing that quick

657
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: getting it out to the right people as the play

658
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: is constructed.

659
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know why if you got George Pickens

660
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: in single coverage with no you know, no safety help

661
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: or anything. Why would you go, why would you look

662
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: for somebody else? You know, throw him the ball.

663
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: H Sometimes it's not that hard to figure out, you know, right.

664
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: Right, don't make the simple difficult, you know. I remember

665
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: this was a long time ago when they used to

666
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: have the Whibile seven on seven UH tournament outside, you know,

667
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: at the upmc rooney Sports Complex. And I remember, you know,

668
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: I was sitting in Kevin Colbert's office, and you know,

669
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: he had the window there were and Clareton is just

670
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: kicking the snot out of everybody by. They had one

671
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: receiver and one quarterback and they couldn't cover this kid.

672
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: Kept throwing it to him, you know, kept throwing it

673
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: to him every time, every time, every you know, And

674
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: I looked at Kevin, I said, you know, sometimes it's

675
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: not that difficult. It's not complicated. You have a guy

676
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: that they cannot cover, keep throwing it to him.

677
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: Uh or like Colts does he play for the Bengals.

678
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: Now, he might have been the quarterback. He was a quarterback,

679
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd to be he was.

680
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know, maybe it was, I don't,

681
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: I don't remember. Yeah, but you know, like the Colts

682
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: did to the Steelers. You'll run it thirteen times in

683
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: a row. If the other team can't stop it, why

684
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: would you do something else? Uh? To me, that's you know,

685
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: I think sometimes NFL coaches overthink things, you know, or

686
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: sometimes maybe they want to, you know, make the war

687
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: all the work that they did in the dark room

688
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 3: dark rooms leading up to the game, you know, watching

689
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: film and drawing on the whiteboard and all that. Maybe

690
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: they want to somehow make that scene worthwhile and try

691
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: and get to those things that they think would work.

692
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: But if you have a small menual plays that's successful,

693
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do anything else. I think we were talking

694
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: about this too earlier. You know what did the Steelers

695
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: five go to plays? We couldn't come up with them.

696
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: I think we could do that now. Yeah's I think

697
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: the difference in the way they're playing in the outcomes

698
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: of the games.

699
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Bob. You know, uh, a lot of people now are

700
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: are there's some revision is history going on here and

701
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: saying why did Mike Tomlin turn to Mason Rudolph before?

702
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 3: When? When?

703
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: When?

704
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: You know, when Kenny Pickett got hurt, they they'd be

705
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: in the playoffs already they wouldn't have to worry about

706
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: this stuff. They practiced for a reason, do they not?

707
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean they look at these guys. I mean, I

708
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: don't think anybody, anybody, maybe not even Mason Rudolph's parents

709
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: foresaw him playing like this.

710
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: You know, I there had to be something, you know

711
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: what I mean? And you know, the revisionist history is

712
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: even going back a little far a you know, to

713
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two training camp. Now you know the three

714
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: way quarterback competition. H Now, Bill Cower, I remember this

715
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six he had after Neil O'Donnell left as

716
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: a free agent after Super Bowl thirty. He had Tom Zach,

717
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: He had Jim Miller, and he had Cordell Stewart, and

718
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: he was quite upfront during the definitely towards the latter

719
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 3: stages of the process. How difficult, slash close to impossible

720
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 3: it is to conduct a three way quarterback competition during

721
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: a preseason and be able to get enough snaps with

722
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: everyone against or with you know, your top players to

723
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: make some kind of intelligent decision.

724
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: Fourth string offensive linemen don't help.

725
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: The evaluation exactly got going against the fourteen DV doesn't help,

726
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: But Eve right, right, And so you know, I think

727
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 3: that Mason Rudolph's he came in with something of a

728
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: resume slash track record with the Steelers by twenty twenty two,

729
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: and maybe that was working against them, because again, I

730
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: like Mason Rudolph. I mean, he's playing great, he's a

731
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: good guy. I'm happy for his success all of that stuff.

732
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: He's also the guy who lost his job for Duck Hodges.

733
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: You know, people forget this. And not only do they

734
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: forget this, but a lot of the people, especially those

735
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: in the media, who are calling for Mason Rudolph now

736
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 3: or earlier this year, we're trying to We're saying, put

737
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: Duck Codges in. This guy's killing us. And so, you know,

738
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 3: that's the way the NFL works. I just, you know,

739
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: I can kind of understand what happened to Mason Rudolph

740
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: in their twenty twenty two training camp in terms of

741
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: he didn't get enough reps with the first team. Well,

742
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: you kind of knew what you had with him, or

743
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: that at least they had enough video or experience or

744
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: whatever that gave them an idea that they thought they

745
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: knew what they had with him. And so you know,

746
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: you had a little bit of a preconceived notion because

747
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: the other two guys were totally new. Trubisky was new

748
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: to your team, a former second overall pick in the draft,

749
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: and you know, your number one pick in that draft

750
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: can you pick it? So sure, there was probably more

751
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: of an emphasis or opportunity for those guys, you know,

752
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: in terms of reps in practice and maybe in the

753
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: preseason games. But you know, if you're going to really

754
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: make a decision that, I think that's what you have

755
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: to do. You have to really educate yourself on the

756
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: people that you don't have any kind of background with.

757
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: And so you know, was it fair. No, probably not.

758
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: But again I keep saying, it's the NFL. You know

759
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: it's not fair. Life's not fair. And that's just kind

760
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: of what happened, I think to Mason Rudolph. And then

761
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: he became a free agent, and apparently apparently whatever the

762
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: Steelers thought of him was an opinion shared by a

763
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: lot of other teams because he got nothing in terms

764
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: of a better opportunity or offer, and he came back

765
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: for fifth year veteran minimum, which you know you can't

766
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: pay him any less than that. I certainly think that

767
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: that's going to change for him next offseason, and he is.

768
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: He has earned that. Good for him. But you know,

769
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: the as you referred to it, Dale revisionist history. Yeah,

770
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd make every decision perfect if I got

771
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: to look at a review mirror.

772
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: So labs. You know, as everyone knows, you know, the

773
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: last game of the season, the Steelers are going to

774
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: Baltimore to take on the dastardly Baltimore Ravens, who I

775
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: think are the best team in football right now. But

776
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a watered down version of some regard.

777
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: I still think this is gonna be a weird game.

778
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: It's still Ravens Steelers. They're They're not not going to

779
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: roll the ball out there and steamroll Baltimore in Baltimore

780
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: winnessing twenty four to nothing and have no resistance. I

781
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a very strange game.

782
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: Well I don't know about strange, but it's gonna be

783
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: a barb barall.

784
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

785
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you only have you only have you know, fifty

786
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 3: three guys. It's not like a preseason game. We have

787
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: ninety where you can rest everyone.

788
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: A bunch of doctors and lawyers out there playing defensive back,

789
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: you know, or you.

790
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: Know, construction works. So yeah, there isn't gonna be any

791
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 3: of that. There just isn't. And so yeah, it's gonna

792
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: be competitive, it's gonna be physical, it's you know in

793
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: some in some areas, in some instances, it'll be brutal.

794
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, the Ravens aren't going to roll over.

795
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: And you know, they just don't. They don't have that

796
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 3: in them. You know. Like now, John Harbaugh, you know.

797
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: He wants to win every preseason game, you know.

798
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 3: Right, and maybe he is, you know, a little arrogant,

799
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: but he's not as bad as.

800
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: Billock, Little.

801
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: Brian Billick, who you know, sacrificed pretty much his team's

802
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: welfare in two thousand and three in the finale because

803
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: he wanted to beat the Feelers so bad and you know,

804
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: in a game that was meaningless to their team in

805
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: terms of making the playoffs and or they're seeding in

806
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: those playoffs. And they went to Tennessee the next week

807
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 3: and got slapped around and lost. You know, John Harbaugh

808
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: and he said this in his first presser of the

809
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: week because the last time the Ravens, I don't know

810
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: if they were thirteen and three or not, but they

811
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: went into the top seed in the AFC. It was

812
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. They lost the first round. I don't love

813
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: who beat them, but they did. And one of the

814
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: things that struck me right away was Hardball went right

815
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: to that and was talking about how this team is

816
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: different than that team and as if to say, you know,

817
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: we're not going to use what happened in twenty nineteen

818
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: to change the way we think of ourselves in twenty

819
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: twenty three. And so that kind of indicated to me

820
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: that Lamar Jackson wasn't gonna play because.

821
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: Maybe the owner had something or touch of memories as well.

822
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: Well, you know, again, I don't know what Steve Bisciotti's

823
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: you know how active he is and those kinds of things.

824
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: I just don't I think that, you know, John Harbaugh

825
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: has to he has been in a lot of these

826
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: Ravens Steelers games, and does he think that I love

827
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: what happened to Mason Rudolph against the Ravens at twenty

828
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: nineteen couldn't happen till Lamar Jackson against the Steelers in

829
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three.

830
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 1: He knows that the Steelers are going to hit Lamar Jackson.

831
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, And you know it if it results in

832
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: a penalty, It results in a penalty. But you can't

833
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: play scared against that guy. You just cannot because he

834
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: will carve you up like a Thanksgiving turkey. So yeah,

835
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I don't think that this game is

836
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: going to be lopsided either way. I do believe that

837
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 3: the Steelers, if this is another one of those games

838
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 3: where they have to play, play it a certain way

839
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: if they want to leave Baltimore, want to win. Even

840
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: though the quarterback is going to be Tyler Huntley, you

841
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: know it's going to be interesting. I when watching the

842
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: second half of the game against the Colts, I never

843
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: thought that we would be talking about this Ravens game.

844
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: We were talking about it now. I didn't think it

845
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: was possible.

846
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: No, I'm with you, Bob. So when we we get

847
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: to Sunday here, let's let's let's I'm watching video here

848
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: of uh and make a Fitzpatrick and the land and

849
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: Roberts practicing today. That makes me feel even better about

850
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: the Steelers going down to Baltimore and winning.

851
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

852
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: But so we're sitting there on Sunday, are we watching

853
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game at that point? Or is it

854
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: taken care of? Or do we are we now rooting

855
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: against the Bills? What do you how do you think

856
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: this plays out?

857
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I think is a kind of

858
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: underrated uh aspect of this whole scenario, this whole weekend scenario.

859
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: Tennessee Jacksonville. Yeah, I think tend of I think Tennessee.

860
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: You know, I think Tennessee Jacksonville is the AFC South

861
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: version of Steelers Ravens, and that they don't like each other.

862
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: And Rabel, right, Brabel is a is a is a

863
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: hard ass. And I mean that as a compliment. And

864
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: I just think that if Jacksonville plays like they've been playing,

865
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: they can lose that game, no problem at all. It's

866
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: a division game, so they there's a familiarity with those teams,

867
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: between those teams, and so you know, I don't think

868
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: you really pay too much attention to the records. And

869
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: I think that Tennessee, you know, we'd like to would

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Speaker 3: like to go out there and beat up on the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars a little bit. That's the game that I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: beat in terms of the Sunday games. For me, that's

873
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: the one that I think because the Colts and the

874
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: Texans play one of them has to lose. Yeah, okay,

875
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: well that's bad for them too. But you know that

876
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: if you ask me right now to predict that if

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00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: the Steelers win, what's going to be the game that

878
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 3: gets them into the playoffs. It's not gonna be Buffalo losing.

879
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Jacksonville lose.

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00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

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00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: I think that's that one's much more likely. And we'll

882
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: see if that happens. But we're gonna let you go, Bob.

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00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy all this weekend's games. Hopefully I

884
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: can get back from Baltimore after the snowmageddon or whatever's

885
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna happen down there this weekend, and maybe we'll be

886
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: talking next week about a Steeler playoff game.

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00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 3: I'm up for it. What are you? What are you

888
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: hearing about the weather outdal since you brought that up

889
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: down in Baltimore.

890
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: Supposed to start snowing at some point on Saturday, so

891
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: from what I saw today and lots of it, Yeah,

892
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: but probably after maybe after game time, so we'll see.

893
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, travel sake, we'll try to.

894
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: That's Bob Labriola, editor of Steelers Digestive Steelers dot Com.

895
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to

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00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: the driver here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

897
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Speaker 1: with more right after this. Welcome back to the Drive.

898
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson. And well,

899
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: Matt have the the Ravens injury report here. Nice and

900
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: uh well, they got a bunch of guys who did

901
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: not practice today. Odell Beckham resting again. Yeah, Ronald Darby

902
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: cornerback was ill, so he didn't practice today.

903
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: He's an older guy too though. Yeah.

904
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: Wide receivers A Flowers with the calf injury did not practice.

905
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: He played like fifty percent of the snaps last week.

906
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: Like they arrested him in that game. Get out of hand.

907
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 2: He's their best receiver.

908
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: Safety Kyle Hamilton limited yesterday with that knee injury. Did

909
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: not practice today.

910
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: I don't think he does either, fighting something for a while.

911
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: Malie Harrison, linebacker, he did not practice as two days

912
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: a row. He's got a groin injury. That's significant because

913
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: he's the backup inside linebacker.

914
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned that yesterday.

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00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: Number three.

916
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: We kind of won him to practice because then it

917
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: makes it easier to rest roquand or Queen.

918
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: Well, they may have to bring somebody up off their practice.

919
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: I can't imagine they play.

920
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: There's no way Roquan plays, no matter what happens.

921
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: Cornerback Marlon Humphrey did not practice. He's got a calf issue.

922
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: Him and Hamilton to me are kind of the same.

923
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, you don't play with an injury. So that's enough.

924
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: Said Quarterback Lamar Jackson limited.

925
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: There you go for that.

926
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: He's already out.

927
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: Cornerback Arthur Malllett limited again today with a hip injury.

928
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: Linebacker de del Sean Phillips was limited with a shoulder injury.

929
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: He's probably one of those replacements.

930
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: I would imagine the inside much about him. I assume

931
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: he's a special teamer.

932
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: Linebacker Patrick Queen with the shoulder limited.

933
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: I wonder if he gets lumped. At least he's limited.

934
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: At least he did something.

935
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Speaker 1: That's two days run for that. Cornerback Brandon Stevens with

936
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: an ankle limited, also a starter. Outside linebacker Kyle van

937
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: Noy with a calf limited and not young and not young.

938
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: Wide receiver Thailand Wallace with a knee limited.

939
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Speaker 2: That's new, okay. He also does punt return stuff for them.

940
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: He's the one that had the walk off punk return against.

941
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Speaker 1: He would be one you'd probably want to see out

942
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Speaker 1: there if you.

943
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 2: Like him and Treadwell. Treadwell's on this team and Agalor

944
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: might be like they're in Kohler, they may be the

945
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: guys that they're playing on.

946
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: Playing safety Adarius Washington has a pectoral injury.

947
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Speaker 2: He was limited, okay, mostly a special team young guy.

948
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Speaker 1: Though defensive back there Al Whirley did not practice with

949
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: the shoulder and ankle injuries, and then guard Kevin Zeitler

950
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: with knee and quad did not practice. He was listed

951
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: as limited yesterday.

952
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: He didn't play last week.

953
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Speaker 1: He didn't play last week. I mean, I remember yesterday's

954
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: practice was a walkthrough for them or est It wasn't

955
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Speaker 1: even a walk there, it was an estimated break.

956
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: Can't look too much into the yes, so this was.

957
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: Really their first day of practice this week.

958
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: I mean Zeitler spent the league ten years something like that.

959
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean he came in the same year as de Castro.

960
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, all right, so I don't know if

961
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: you play him. Yeah, more and more, I think there's

962
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: gonna be guys that aren't even.

963
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: Acting there might be like fifteen dudes that just don't play.

964
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Speaker 2: They just don't play. Some of them will be active,

965
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: you know, like Ronnie Stanley. Yeah he can't make them

966
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: all in act, right right, but I mean Humphrey, ro Kwan.

967
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: Hamilton, those guys want to those be the inactive.

968
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Speaker 2: They just don't even let them show up. Maybe Zeitler

969
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: is another one like that, Like maybe Odell's active, but

970
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: he's over there goofing off of the you know, baseball

971
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: hat on the whole time, you know, like that.

972
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, they're they're not anything close to being at

973
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Speaker 1: full strength for this game.

974
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Speaker 2: Even if even this was a playoff game. I'm sure

975
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: a lot those dudes are playing.

976
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Speaker 1: A lot of those guys might be playing, but they

977
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: might be without Kyle Hamilton or Marlon Humphrey and some

978
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: of those guys, they.

979
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't They might not play this week, maybe not maybe not. Yeah,

980
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: but I mean why risk it down.

981
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah no, there's no there's no chance of that. And

982
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: a large parson part of that is because they're playing

983
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers too, and they know it's going to be

984
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: what kind of game it's going to be. Yeah, Steelers

985
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: are going to do everything possible it's going to be

986
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: a physical game.

987
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why I put them in harm's way any

988
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: more than you have to. I know some coaches don't

989
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: love having two weeks off, but figure it out. Yeah,

990
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: you know, it's better than putting a questionable guy out there.

991
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely game, Absolutely, we're gonna get to another break that's

992
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: going to do it for our number one of the Drive.

993
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: We'll be back with our number two.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 1: Matt Williams said, I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to

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00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,800
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