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Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome back to the Colts Audio Network, Guy Matt

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Speaker 1: Taylor inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry or radio studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Casey Valier and JJ Stangovitz. And if

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Speaker 1: we creep closer and closer to the NFL Draft, we

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Speaker 1: thought we'd break down the top quarterbacks in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three draft class by talking to some of the

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Speaker 1: people that covered them and followed them on a daily

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Speaker 1: basis at the collegiate level. We're calling this the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft Quarterback with around, and we're gonna get some quick

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Speaker 1: check ins on Kentucky quarterback Will Levis, Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State quarterback c. J. Stroud, and Alabama gunslinger Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: All of these quarterbacks are predicted to go in the

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Speaker 1: first round, and who knows one of them might be

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Speaker 1: coming to the Indianapolis Colt. So let's head to the

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Speaker 1: phone line and dial up the eight five to nine

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Speaker 1: area code down in Lexington, Kentucky, where we check in

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Speaker 1: first with Tom Leach, the longtime voice of the Kentucky

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Speaker 1: Wildcats on radio, to get us in the know on

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Speaker 1: Wildcat quarterback Will Levis and Tom Levis's final season at

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Speaker 1: Kentucky in twenty twenty two certainly wasn't what he hoped for.

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Speaker 1: The Wildcats win just seven and six, and Levis sustained

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Speaker 1: an ankle injury in early October then gritted through it

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season. How would you characterize Levis's

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Speaker 1: final season at Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't. The season didn't go as well as

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Speaker 2: anybody wanted. They had some high hopes and they were

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Speaker 2: off to a great start and then they lost a

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Speaker 2: close game down at Old Myths and that's where Will

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Speaker 2: got hurt the turf toe and I think a shoulder too,

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Speaker 2: And I don't think they ever let on how much

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Speaker 2: offensive line was probably the worst performing offensive line that

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Speaker 2: Kentucky had in several years. That's been a strength around

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Speaker 2: Kentucky for a long time, and last year they had

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Speaker 2: issues there new offensive coordinator. And the thing about Will

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Speaker 2: that I thought was impressive is, you know, he's a

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Speaker 2: guy that clearly was going to be a top draft pick,

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Speaker 2: had what it, you know, the skill set to do that,

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Speaker 2: and so he could have you know, not played and

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Speaker 2: you know, rather than risk not being at his best,

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Speaker 2: and he played all the way through, played through the injuries,

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Speaker 2: tried to help his team, didn't complain. So he was

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Speaker 2: I guess the best word I could think of. He

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Speaker 2: was a pro about it, and I think that bodes

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Speaker 3: When you looked at Kentucky last year, and you know

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Speaker 3: you mentioned the change in offensive coordinator going from Liam

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Speaker 3: Cohne who went to the Rams to Rich Scangarello, why

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Speaker 3: did that offense struggle with Levis as its quarterback last year?

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Speaker 3: And I know there were also some departures of talent

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Speaker 2: Hey mainly he would focus on the offensive line. They

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Speaker 2: and they weren't nearly as good as Kentucky has been

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Speaker 4: You didn't have.

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Speaker 2: You had a young, very young receiving corps. Their best

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Speaker 2: I think was a true or was a red shirt freshman.

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Speaker 2: So you're really young receiving corps, He didn't have his

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Speaker 2: He was held out because of a compliance issue something

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Speaker 2: that had happened, And so you know, you've got a

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Speaker 2: very young receiving corps, subpar offensive line, and you're without

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Speaker 5: Now, one of those things you mentioned, you know, the

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Speaker 5: the issues that happen offensively, offensive line, all of that,

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Speaker 5: and you look at what he did in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: Are you saying that, really twenty twenty two doesn't really

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Speaker 5: paint the clear picture of what will Levis was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And even you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: I think twenty one, when he was healthy and you know,

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Speaker 2: twenty one is a better indicator of his true game

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Speaker 1: Hey, Tom stan right there, as you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: the NFL right now, it's it's more about dynamic quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: pockets not perfect. You just kind of talked about it

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Speaker 1: he translates that part of his game to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: That part of it as far as what he can

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Speaker 2: the previous year in twenty one, hurtled a guy out

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Speaker 2: you know, that hurt him in terms of being successful

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Speaker 2: think probably they question a few too many interceptions, and

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Speaker 2: So going way back through a whole bunch of interceptions

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Speaker 2: whatever they need to tweak with suspect there's good reason

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Speaker 2: a leadership standpoint, he came in as he didn't get in.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get to go through springball his first season,

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Speaker 2: so he didn't come in until the summer. And coach

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Speaker 2: Stoops used a word presence pretty early on in talking

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Speaker 2: came through that. He even though he was the new

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, when you talk to Will,

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Speaker 2: From everything, I know, his teammates loved him. That you know,

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Speaker 2: he again that first year, threw his body around a lot.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't a you know, a prima donna in any way.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean he did some things that got attention,

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Speaker 2: a marketing background. So then the typical athlete in terms

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Speaker 2: And so uh, but he's he's a you know that

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Speaker 2: those were fun things. He's a serious football guy.

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Speaker 5: Now, final thing for me, the NFL, it's not really

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Speaker 5: a patient league. It's all like you draft a guy high,

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Speaker 5: he's got to get in and play. When you look

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Speaker 5: at the game that Will Levis is now, I know

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Speaker 5: that he's not a finished product, and there's still stuff

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Speaker 5: ready do you think he is, you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not probably qualified to speak on that as

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Speaker 2: But you mentioned the word under center. You know, with

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Speaker 2: So that's probably a little bit of a help too.

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Speaker 1: There you go. It's Tom Leech, the longtime voice of

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Speaker 1: Kentucky football and Wildcat basketball. Tom, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: the time on Will Levis. Appreciate your insight, love your

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Speaker 1: work and continued success there with the Wildcats.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Happy to help out.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's head down to Gainesville, Florida, the home

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Speaker 1: of the Gators, and also Sean Kelly, the radio voice

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Speaker 1: of the Gators, and let's talk about Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson, who,

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Speaker 1: coming out early in the draft he's a red shirt sophomore,

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Speaker 1: has become one of the most intriguing NFL prospects in

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Speaker 1: a long, long time. He's gonna have to balance his

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Speaker 1: potential in the NFL. Sean, appreciate your time today for you.

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Speaker 1: Let's start first, What was it like calling Anthony Richardson's

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Speaker 1: games last season? How electric was he as a player

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Speaker 1: for you? As you described his game on the field

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that he's one of those athletes that

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Speaker 6: I kind of had to be on my toes a

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Speaker 6: unpredictable in that sense in a good way, and also

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Speaker 6: was fun and intriguing to watch his arc go from

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Speaker 6: when I arrived in Gainesville a couple days ago for

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Speaker 6: And you talk about intriguing with regard to where the

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Speaker 6: Colts sit, the pick, the quarterback class, all of it,

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Speaker 6: it's equally intriguing the conversation about Anthony Richardson. What it

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Speaker 6: was last summer, how it progressed through the season, and

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Speaker 6: then certainly maybe how it changed a lot of ways

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Speaker 6: during the pre draft process, which he nailed. But you know,

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Speaker 6: this is a world class athlete who is freakish in

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Speaker 6: a lot of ways, whether it be his size, the

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Speaker 6: complement of his run abilities, escapability, and also that arm.

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Speaker 6: And that arm is one of the more intriguing parts

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Speaker 6: of Anthony's game because he can make any throw and

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Speaker 6: he does it with ease, especially on a big ball,

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Speaker 6: a deep ball downfield. His completion percentage, though, leaves probably

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Speaker 6: fans scratching their heads a little bit. You know, Okay,

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Speaker 6: what am I missing here? I think some of it

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Speaker 6: is that he'll get better with that are more accurate

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Speaker 6: when his lower half, his feet get better in a

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Speaker 6: lot of situations. And I think too, in no slight

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Speaker 6: to Florida's wide receiver core, but I think that some

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Speaker 6: drops have to be factored into that completion percentage. And

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Speaker 6: look at the next level, He's going to be working

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Speaker 6: I think all those things come into play. This is

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Speaker 6: an evolving story with Anthony Richardson, and it's easy to

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Speaker 6: easy to forget that he's really only been a starter

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Speaker 6: Number one, that's a credit to I think Florida's offensive

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Speaker 4: You know, I can.

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Speaker 6: He's better than when he started last summer. I just

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Speaker 6: And also, this is next level stuff. I better learn

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Speaker 1: Staying along with that, Sean, how much of a community

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of people, young people here that look

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: I mean I wasn't either at a young age, but

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Fascinating stuff, Anthony and Richardson. That's

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Speaker 1: time today. The insight was fantastic, and good luck with

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Speaker 6: No problem, my mono that you wanted to talk about Anthony,

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Speaker 1: All right, two down, two to go on the quarterback

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Speaker 1: find Paul Keels, the voice of the Ohio State Buck

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Speaker 1: Guys to talk about Ohio State quarterback see J. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: a two time Heisman finalist, two time Big Ten Offensive

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Speaker 1: you've been doing this a long time. You've seen a

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a tough answer because when you think about

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Speaker 3: I want to get into more about who CJ is

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Speaker 4: Stroud beginning well as opposed to what you guys get

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Speaker 4: So I think he's somebody that really has just kind

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Speaker 5: Now, earlier, you mentioned all the quarterbacks that have come

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Speaker 5: He's definitely, you know, been electric with Chicago, but you

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Speaker 5: Do you think he is a way to kind of

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Speaker 4: I think he's got the opportunity to do that. Now

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Speaker 4: He didn't do it a lot at Ohio State, but

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Speaker 4: You know, Bobby Hoying had a nice career, wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I mean you look at the numbers. I

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Speaker 4: You know, I think he grew into it a lot.

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Speaker 4: And he'd be the first person to tell you that

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Speaker 4: able to take advantage of those around him as well

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Speaker 4: as a running game that at times provided a great compliment.

438
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Speaker 3: You mentioned CJ having the ability to run in him,

439
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Speaker 3: but he didn't it a whole lot. Obviously, we saw

440
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Speaker 3: the Georgia game where he did do it and did

441
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Speaker 3: it very successfully. Was it an issue of him not

442
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Speaker 3: taking opportunities that were there or did he not need

443
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Speaker 3: to be a more creating style quarterback based on the

444
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Speaker 3: wy Ohio State ran their offense.

445
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Speaker 4: That's the riddle of the sphinx. Nobody really knows for sure,

446
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 4: whether whether he was reluctant to do it, whether the

447
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 4: coaching stamp was reluctant to do it. You could understand

448
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 4: why in both cases. We saw times really in the

449
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 4: past season where when things broke down he tried to

450
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Speaker 4: do it. There just weren't any big gains. You know,

451
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 4: can't help but think about the very first touchdown he

452
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Speaker 4: was ever part of as a backup. He scored on

453
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Speaker 4: an almost fifty yard run in a game in Michigan

454
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Speaker 4: State when he was backing up justin fields. Now, that

455
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 4: was in mop up time, so you take that for

456
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Speaker 4: what it is. But you think back to the lad

457
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Speaker 4: in that game against Georgia in the Semis where he

458
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 4: was able to make a big run to put Ohio

459
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Speaker 4: State in a position possibly to win the game. So

460
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 4: it's something that's there. His athleticism certainly has been on

461
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Speaker 4: display with how he's been able to handle things and

462
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Speaker 4: elude the right So it's a component that's there. But

463
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Speaker 4: you know, we all know that that's a different animal

464
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Speaker 4: when you get to the professional level.

465
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Speaker 5: Now, Cjstraw looks like to be a guy who's definitely

466
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Speaker 5: going to go, you know, definitely in the top five

467
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Speaker 5: of this draft, and a lot of people might view

468
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Speaker 5: it as a safe pick. Now you might view the

469
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Speaker 5: word safe as you know, maybe not a whole lot

470
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Speaker 5: of upside, not sexy, but can step in right now,

471
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Speaker 5: how do you look at that? Is he a safe

472
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Speaker 5: prospect that's got a lot of upside or is he

473
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Speaker 5: a safe guy where you kind of know what you're

474
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Speaker 5: going to get and it's going to be that way

475
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Speaker 5: throughout both.

476
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Speaker 4: I think he's a safe pick, but he still has

477
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Speaker 4: more upside. He's a young man that you know, his

478
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 4: work ethic has been part of what has been his

479
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 4: story at Ohio State that you know, he will always

480
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 4: talk about and has always talked about the need to

481
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 4: get better. So he's a guy that's certainly when getting

482
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Speaker 4: good talent around him, that really helps exhibit his skills

483
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Speaker 4: at a very high level. You know, a lot of that,

484
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: as you guys know, with a pro team, it just

485
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Speaker 4: depends on who's already there. What do they need from

486
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 4: him right away? I think we've seen with what Joe

487
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: Burrow has done that's a rare example of taking a

488
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Speaker 4: rookie and throwing him right in at the get go.

489
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Speaker 4: So a lot of it just depends on what's going

490
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Speaker 4: on with the team that takes him. Do they need

491
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 4: to have him play a lot right away? Does he

492
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Speaker 4: get some cushion to maybe learn and eventually get into

493
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Speaker 4: the rotation of playing. But he's the guy that certainly

494
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 4: has an incredible upside, but a great set of tools

495
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Speaker 4: coming into whatever situation he comes into.

496
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Speaker 1: All right, Paul, Lastly, we're in Big ten country over

497
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Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis, So give us the skinny on Ohio State.

498
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Speaker 1: The level of optimism you have for the buck Eyes

499
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three as they look to I hate

500
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Speaker 1: to use this word rebound because they were in the

501
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Speaker 1: College Football Playoff for goodness sake, but your level of

502
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Speaker 1: excitement for the buck Eyes next year under Ryan Day, well.

503
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys know the fans expectation is always

504
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 4: at the high level. But there's a lot of curiosity

505
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Speaker 4: about this program moving forward, starting with a quarterback position.

506
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Speaker 4: Now that CJ. Stroud has left, Kyle McCord would seem

507
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 4: to be the guest heir apparent right now. Devin Brown,

508
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 4: who's a red shirt freshman, suffered a finger injury this week.

509
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Speaker 4: He will not play in the spring game this weekend.

510
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Speaker 4: But Kyle McCord's had a lot a mop up duty.

511
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 4: He started one game in his career. Marvin Harrison Junior

512
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 4: and a Mechabuka coming back at receiver are caused for

513
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 4: great optimism. It seems to be a group that's deep

514
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 4: at running back, but they're retooling the offensive line. They're

515
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 4: losing three starters. That's maybe outside of quarterback, the biggest

516
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 4: curious question. And on the defensive side, you know, the

517
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 4: second year under Jim Knowles's defensive coordinator is what's got

518
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Speaker 4: people really curious about what they're doing. They've got experience

519
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: coming back at linebacker, a secondary group that has looked

520
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 4: good in the spring, but needs to play better than

521
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: they did last year. But as you guys know here

522
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 4: in Columbus and around Ohio State, what it's all about

523
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 4: is number one beating Michigan, then winning a Big Ten

524
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Speaker 4: championship and getting into the playoffs. And they haven't been

525
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Speaker 4: able to beat Michigan for a couple of years. They

526
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 4: got into the playoffs last year, they were a hair

527
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Speaker 4: away from getting to the national championship game. So there's

528
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 4: always big expectation of optimism, but there's a lot of

529
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Speaker 4: curiosity about the makeup of this year's team, no.

530
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Speaker 1: Question about it. One of the best in the business,

531
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Speaker 1: that's Paul Keels. He's the voice of the Ohio State

532
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: Buck guys and both football and basketball. Paul love listening

533
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Speaker 1: to your games driving around on running the arons on

534
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Speaker 1: a Saturday afternoon. Enjoy your spring and good luck to

535
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Speaker 1: the Buck guys next fall.

536
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Speaker 4: Hey, my pleasure, and you guys do what you can

537
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: to make sure they get the Big Ten basketball tournament in Indianapolis,

538
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 4: having there rather than the other place.

539
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Speaker 1: No Quoe. Yeah, Yeah, you're preaching the choir on that one.

540
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: It just makes too much sense. But common sense, as

541
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, does not always prevail.

542
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Speaker 4: Yeah. All right, guys, I'm glad to talk to you.

543
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Speaker 1: All right, one stop left on our tour round Quarterback USA.

544
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Speaker 1: We're headed back down south to SCC country one more time.

545
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Speaker 1: Let's welcome in Nick Kelly, who covers Alabama football and

546
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: men's basketball for the Tuscaloosa News and USA Today. He's

547
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Speaker 1: gonna give us all things. Bryce Young, the Crimson Tide quarterback,

548
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: won the twenty twenty one Heisman Trophy, led Alabama to

549
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Speaker 1: the national championship that year, the only quarterback in school

550
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: history to pass for at least three thousand yards in

551
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: two seasons and to finish second all time in passing

552
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: yards and touchdowns the last two seasons. Young was twenty

553
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Speaker 1: three to four as a starter through eighty touchdowns, only

554
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: twelve picks, and Nick, it's been pretty consistent that most

555
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: draft experts all along have felt the Young is the

556
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: best quarterback in this draft class. Curious, at what point

557
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: covering Alabama football did you realize that Bryce Young might

558
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: be the top overall pick in the NFL draft.

559
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Speaker 4: Someday.

560
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 7: That's a great question. The first press conference that he

561
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 7: walked out and talked to us, I was thoroughly impressed,

562
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Speaker 7: and I think in that moment knew that this guy

563
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 7: is going to be something special here. Just the way

564
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 7: he carried himself as someone who wasn't even twenty one

565
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 7: years old yet couldn't legally drink yet, but he was

566
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 7: just the poise he has, you could see, Okay, this

567
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 7: guy's going to have some potential just whatever he does

568
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 7: in his life. Frankly, but as a quarterback the first

569
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 7: game against Miami when he was the starter, I mean,

570
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 7: he already looked like a seasoned veteran, and at that

571
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 7: point you just knew that this guy had some serious potential.

572
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 7: And did I know he's be the first overall picking

573
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Speaker 7: the draft. Potentially? Maybe not, but I think it became

574
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 7: very apparent, very quickly that this guy had a long

575
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Speaker 7: career and feature ahead of him.

576
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Speaker 3: When you talk to people around the program, what do

577
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: you hear about Bryce Young's work, ethic and just the

578
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 3: kind of the person that he is off the field.

579
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Speaker 7: I've never heard anyone say a bad thing about Bryce Young.

580
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 7: Doesn't mean someone couldn't, but the people I've talked to

581
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 7: and the people that you hear from. I mean, everyone

582
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 7: raves about it. Everyone's raved about him for a long time.

583
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 7: It's one of those things where I think you maybe

584
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 7: take it for granted now that album has a quarterback

585
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 7: battle right now. In terms of how sure of a

586
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 7: commodity that Bryce Young was, even though he had only

587
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 7: seen a little bit of clean up duty as a

588
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 7: freshman's coming in to his sophomore year, everyone was just

589
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 7: laughshing praise on him. I mean, he impressed quickly, like

590
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 7: there really wasn't a quarterback competition because he just was

591
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 7: that impressive in terms of just the way that he

592
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 7: works and hails himself like he's very diligent. He knows

593
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 7: what he needs to do to get the job done,

594
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 7: he knows what he needs to do to port a

595
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 7: high level, and so he's always been someone that you

596
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 7: hear just good things about just personality wise too, just

597
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 7: the way that he commands a lot of rooms that

598
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 7: he walks into, what he treats people like. I've heard

599
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 7: stories that like he would text to commit when a

600
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 7: guy would commit, even if it's another quarterback, and tell me, hey,

601
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 7: welcome to the team. Kind of thing. I'll help you

602
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 7: out however you need me to. So I've heard great

603
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 7: things about him in a lot of different ways. And

604
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 7: that's the thing I think from what I've seen and

605
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 7: read and heard, he's wild NFL teams when he's talked

606
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 7: to him, because you get in front of Bryce, you

607
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 7: don't really think you're talking to a young a young guy.

608
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 7: He really is well spoken, mature. I mean, so you're

609
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 7: getting a guy who's very polished in that regard.

610
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Speaker 5: When you look at his stock here in the NFL,

611
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 5: how important do you think the twenty twenty two season was.

612
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 5: You know, he goes out, whins the Heisman Trophy, He's

613
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: got a couple quarterbacks or wide receivers and Jamison Williams

614
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: and John Matchi, they go high in the draft, they

615
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 5: go away. And this year, you know, from a you know,

616
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 5: just a receiver standpoint, a down year for Alabama, but

617
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 5: he didn't miss a beat. So how important you think

618
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Speaker 5: his progress in twenty twenty two without those dynamic players

619
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Speaker 5: was to just show how good this guy really was?

620
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean his stats didn't look as crazy as

621
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 7: they did in twenty twenty one, So that's maybe why

622
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 7: he wasn't as much on the Higsman radar, and plus

623
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Speaker 7: it's tough to win it back to back years in general.

624
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 7: But I think in some ways he was more impressive

625
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 7: because he was working with a lot less. He's working

626
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 7: with offensive line that was okay, wasn't a big strength.

627
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 7: Receivers couldn't get open most of the time. I mean

628
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 7: it was it was rough. I mean, he was the

629
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 7: offense in a lot of ways, him Ejamier Gibbs, that was,

630
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 7: that was the majority of how they moved the ball

631
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 7: when they did. But the fact that he still was

632
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 7: able to do what he could do, I mean every

633
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 7: times where he'd be moving around the pocket and just

634
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 7: waiting for someone to get open, and the fact that

635
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 7: he still made this offense work just shows you how

636
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 7: good this guy is even when the receivers aren't maybe

637
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 7: given him much help. And so twenty twenty one was impressive,

638
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 7: is I'll get out in its own right because the

639
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 7: numbers he put up, but obvitually he had better talent

640
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 7: than and so now that you know last year when

641
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 7: he didn't have as much, the numbers weren't as gaudy.

642
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 7: But I think he was even more impressive just because

643
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 7: of how little he was working with in some ways.

644
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Speaker 1: You know, Nick, the common knock in Young's game, I

645
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: guess the only knock on his game really is that

646
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: he's small, small in stature, right, six foot, two hundred

647
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: pounds thereabouts. How many times did you notice that being

648
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: a problem for his game while he was at Alabama?

649
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: Because I really haven't seen it show up very much

650
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: and getting to familiarize myself with him. You you watched

651
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: every snap, how many times did you see that translate

652
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: on the field.

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Speaker 7: I mean I really didn't. In the sense of him

654
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Speaker 7: as a thrower. I mean, you won't see if you

655
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 7: want a quarterback he's gonna try to run someone over.

656
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 7: He's not that guy. So you know a quarterback who

657
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 7: can do that. But if that's what you want, he's

658
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 7: not gonna be that guy. Like he definitely, yeah, I

659
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 7: think is careful. He's not going to try to put

660
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 7: his body at harm when it doesn't need to be

661
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 7: put at harm. So I think he takes a smart

662
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 7: approach to that. But terms of impacting his game, I

663
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 7: mean he had a huge ol'd lineman, like I mean,

664
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Speaker 7: Evan Neil just the Giants now was his left tackle,

665
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 7: and it was you know, a six to seven kind

666
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 7: of guy, like I mean, just a mammoth of a man.

667
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 7: It's not like he couldn't see over them or make

668
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 7: plays over them. And so yeah, I think we always

669
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Speaker 7: knew that his size was gonna be the thing that

670
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 7: everyone always brought up. But he played against SEC defenders.

671
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 7: I mean, there never really was an issue in that regard.

672
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 7: And in terms of taking hits. I mean, his only

673
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 7: really injury that he had the past two years is

674
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 7: when he had an awkward fall on his shoulder, and

675
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 7: that's not really a I don't know a size thing,

676
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 7: if you will, It's not because he was small, he

677
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 7: just landed weird. So injury wise, he's not a guy

678
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 7: who was injury prone, even he's a smaller guy. And

679
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 7: so yeah, really this isn't just me saying this is

680
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 7: a an Alabama guy. But I just did not think

681
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 7: that his size impacted him because it's not like he's

682
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Speaker 7: going to face guys for a lot different size wise

683
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Speaker 7: or competition wise, even in some ways in the NFL

684
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 7: obviously it's the next level. There's better players as a whole,

685
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 7: But he played in the SEC, and I don't think

686
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 7: that was an issue in the sec for him, but

687
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 7: we'll see how it plays out in the NFL long term.

688
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: How about his his pocket mobility, because you as you're

689
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: talking about this, and he hasn't had any real, you know,

690
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: significant injuries that would be related to his size, it

691
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: seems like something that he's very good at is feeling

692
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: pressure and knowing when to scramble, knowing how to avoid it,

693
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: and then keeping his eyes down field so you can

694
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: still make plays. You know, and you watched every snap

695
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: he had when you talk to people around the Crimson Tide.

696
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: Is that something that was pretty consistently brought up.

697
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Speaker 7: Whodini is the nickname that he had even from people

698
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 7: he faced high school. I mean, he's he is sneaky

699
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 7: in the pocket because he's so good at baiting guys

700
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 7: to make them think that they have him, and then

701
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 7: the last second he pivots out of that. So he's

702
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 7: really really good at just pocket awareness, knowing where guys

703
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 7: are at, how to how to basically fool them into

704
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 7: basically flying past him. And I think that, yeah, that

705
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 7: helps him as a guy who's not as big, because

706
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 7: then he's not taking as many hits. I mean, he

707
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 7: took hits. He definitely encountered guys that were bigger and

708
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 7: stronger and sacking him. But he's really good at baiting

709
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 7: guys to make them think like he even doesn't. His

710
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 7: eyes don't show that he sees you, but he still

711
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 7: finds ways to pivot out of it and he knows

712
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Speaker 7: where you are. And that was something where even before

713
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Speaker 7: he started, I did a story where I talked to

714
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 7: some guys who played against in the high school and

715
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 7: they said, I mean, like, more often than not, you're

716
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 7: grabbing air on this guy. Those weren't NFL defenders that

717
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 7: I was talking to, but that skill set translated to

718
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 7: the college level, and I think it will be the

719
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Speaker 7: NFL to an extent too.

720
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Speaker 5: I don't know if this means anything, but I'm just

721
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 5: drawing on you know, the old Alabama quarterbacks can't make

722
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Speaker 5: it in the NFL, and then you've got guys like

723
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 5: I know, Jalen Hurts went on to Oklahoma, but he's

724
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 5: still got the ties. You've got to even Mac Jones

725
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 5: had a strong rookie year. Do you think that narrative

726
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 5: is really helping guys like Bryce Young to show that,

727
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 5: you know, just because they came from this type of system,

728
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 5: they can be successful. I know Bryce Young has all

729
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 5: the intangibles, but does that definitely help his NFL stock?

730
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Speaker 7: I think so. I mean, and look, he might be

731
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Speaker 7: the best one of them all. I mean, he's the

732
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Speaker 7: quarterback who won a Heisman for Nick Saban, right, and

733
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 7: we'll see how it plays out. Abously, there's a lot

734
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Speaker 7: of football to be played for all those guys. But

735
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Speaker 7: I think the last few years, the narrative around Alabama

736
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Speaker 7: doesn't have quarterbacks has really shifted. And I think that.

737
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Speaker 7: I mean for years, yeah, they had guys that weren't

738
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 7: futured pros at the position, but everything about Bryce Young

739
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 7: has always said this guy has a future in the

740
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Speaker 7: NFL in terms of just the way he throws, what

741
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 7: he plays. I mean, he's a guy who's been working

742
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 7: at this and sce he was five years old. His

743
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Speaker 7: dad took him to a quarterback trainer at age five

744
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 7: and he's been working on his craft ever since. And

745
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 7: so it's one of those things where, yeah, Alabama guys

746
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 7: in the early partment savings tenure weren't really future pros,

747
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 7: but you're seeing now that, yeah, these guys have a

748
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 7: track record of like you said from Jailen to to

749
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Speaker 7: Mac Jones, and obviously, yeah, we'll see how it plays

750
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Speaker 7: that long.

751
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 4: Term for them.

752
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Speaker 7: But I think that quarterbacks and recruits are seeing what

753
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 7: is happening with quarterbacks at Alabama, and I think that

754
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 7: intrigues a lot of guys the common player. I mean,

755
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 7: they have a five star right now and Ty Simpson

756
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 7: who's competing for a job. Right They're said to add

757
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 7: another one in Julian saying in their next recruiting class,

758
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 7: and so yeah, they definitely, I think are developing a

759
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 7: reputation that, hey, if you want to play quarterback at

760
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 7: the next level, come here, we can help you out.

761
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 7: We're not just turning out future pros at other spots.

762
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 7: But again, we'll see how it plays out for two

763
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 7: in his career, how it plays out for Mac in

764
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 7: his career. Jalen, you just won the Super Bowl, but

765
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Speaker 7: or didn't win the Super Bowl? Went to the Super

766
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Speaker 7: bowl s, you say, But yeah, so I think it's

767
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 7: interesting how that narrative is shifting, and just with how

768
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 7: much time you Nick Saban's heading into year seventeen, so

769
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Speaker 7: there are different areas of the Nick Saban era that, yeah,

770
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 7: you kind of see different different narratives that come out

771
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 7: of it. But I think we're seeing that quarterbacks can

772
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 7: come to Alabama and go to the NFL.

773
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Speaker 1: That's Nick Kelly. He covers Alabama football and men's basketball

774
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: for the Tuscaloosa News and USA Today. You've been busy.

775
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: He's been busy for a while. I mean, between football

776
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: and basketball. Over the years, Nick, you've written about a

777
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: lot of wins and a lot of championships. Man, those

778
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: article clicks got to be pretty good in your world.

779
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 7: It's pretty fun, I mean, is it's crazy think right now,

780
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 7: literally Bryce Young could be the top pick in the draft.

781
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 7: And then you have Brandon Miller who plays for the

782
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 7: basket were played for the basketball team and he's likely

783
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 7: going to be a top three pick in the NBA draft.

784
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 7: And so yeah, a level of level of athletes that

785
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 7: come through Alabama, it's pretty pretty cool. Because I'm not

786
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 7: from I'm from Minnesota, some a long ways from home.

787
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 7: But yeah, I've enjoyed the winning culture and tradition that

788
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 7: they have and it definitely, I mean, people around here

789
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 7: just love Alabama athletics. And it's not sure an Auburn fan,

790
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 7: but for those who do bleed Crimson and White, YEP,

791
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 7: it's just so fun and someone who loves the sports football,

792
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 7: it's just it's amazing how every single person wants to

793
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 7: talk about the team, and so you can't ask for

794
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 7: much more when you're a sports writer.

795
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Speaker 1: Yep, no doubt about it. Man, get while they're getting

796
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: is good. Nick, Thanks so much for the time, man.

797
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it and enjoy your spring and summer

798
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: coming up.

799
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Speaker 7: Thanks for having me in Happy draft season.

800
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Speaker 1: All right, the phone bill, we just racked it up.

801
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: It might be expensive on those long distance phone calls,

802
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: but it was worth it getting up to speed on

803
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks here in the twenty twenty three draft class.

804
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Because one of them, who knows, might be coming to

805
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. We'll have to wait and see on

806
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: that night of the draft April twenty seventh. So what

807
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: do we think, boys? Do we now know? Do we

808
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: now fully have a solid understanding of who's who in

809
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: this draft class just a couple of days before the draft?

810
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

811
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: I think I know more, but now I'm just more confused. Yeah, like, ah,

812
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: I could any of these guys sound great? And I

813
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: like doing this exercise, Matt, because you know you can

814
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: talk to draft experts and draft analysts who have broken

815
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: down the film. But I really like hearing from people

816
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: on the ground about what makes these guys tick, and

817
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: you know, hearing what they're like behind the scenes, and

818
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: you know, conversations you've had with them, and seeing I

819
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: mean literally talking to these play by play guys who

820
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: have seen every single snap that Richardson and Levis and

821
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: Stroud took. I think you get a really good feel

822
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 3: for these guys. And I think it goes to show

823
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: this is a pretty deep class of quarterbacks. If you're

824
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: gonna be picking Forth and you need a quarterback, it's

825
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: pretty gonna be picking Forth in a year where there

826
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: seemed to be four pretty good quarterbacks available.

827
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Speaker 5: That's that's kind of where I am. I go back

828
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 5: to the way I felt after the combine, where Okay,

829
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 5: I feel like I've learned stuff, but I don't know

830
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 5: if I've learned anything at all, because all it did

831
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 5: is it reiterated the fact that all these people saying

832
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 5: there are four pretty good quarterbacks, they're all right. So

833
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 5: you listen to anybody we talked to and you're like, oh,

834
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 5: I can totally be convinced that you take Will Levis

835
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: and then you hear. It's one of those things where

836
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: I agree with you, JJ, it is a good It

837
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: seems like a good problem to be in when you

838
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 5: have four guys that they don't really it doesn't seem

839
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 5: like they all have like an out outlying weakness, right

840
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 5: and I can't find that.

841
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: Right exactly. That's what I was gonna say when there

842
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: isn't a clear cut number one guy in this class,

843
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 3: which goes back to, you know, the whole discussion about

844
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: why the Colts didn't trade up right the Bears to

845
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: go go up to number one. But you could look

846
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: at any of these guys and say, yeah, they would

847
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: be a really good fit here in Indie. And there's

848
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: not necessarily the you know, boy, this guy it's a

849
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: huge projection and he's a boomer bust prospect. I know

850
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: some people think that about Anthony Richardson. I think I

851
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: would disagree on that front. Based on the running ability,

852
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: these guys all have a lot of strengths and not

853
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: as many weaknesses as you would usually see when you

854
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: get down to the third and fourth ranked quarterbacks in class.

855
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: So what's left, I mean, what's left for the Colts

856
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: to figure out at this point? We're just days away

857
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: from the first round. I mean, this huge. I don't

858
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: want to overstate it, but I mean it's a really

859
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: important decision. I mean, this is a foundational decision. The

860
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: Colts are going to have to make one of two.

861
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: They've already made one. Shane Steiken is now the head

862
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: coach of this team, and now potentially they bring in

863
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: a rookie building major building block piece at quarterback in

864
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: here JJ, What is left for this team to figure out?

865
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: At this point? They know everything we just talked about.

866
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: They know everything that Sean and Paul and Nick and

867
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: Tom talked about. What's left for the Colts to rummage

868
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: through as they sort their board?

869
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: Point?

870
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: You know, you you've got your draft board is pretty

871
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: close to being set. But Chris Ballader has said the

872
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: cement does not dry until draft night. So you know,

873
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: you might have two guys who are right next to

874
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: each other and you're still trying to comb through that

875
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: information to find some separation. And all right, if these

876
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: guys are both available, who do we take? You know,

877
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: I think, you know, getting all the coaches input in uh,

878
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: you know, that's always critically important. That's probably happened by

879
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: now it's it's now just the other question and the

880
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: other big question in casey, you know, I want to

881
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: get your thoughts on this is do the Colts, now

882
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: that we're into draft week, is it time for them

883
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: to trade up or not? Or do they believe if

884
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: we sit here at four we can still get someone

885
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: we really like and someone we really value. To me,

886
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: that's the biggest question going forward. That's the kind of

887
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: the last piece of this puzzle is when do the

888
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: Colts go on the clock Thursday night.

889
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 5: I think that's the biggest that's gonna be the biggest

890
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 5: question leading up to it if there's something that happens prior,

891
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 5: but that's gonna be one of those things. And I'm

892
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: convinced that whatever happens at one is going to be

893
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: huge because you don't know what's gonna happen at two.

894
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 5: And that's why I think where the Colts are right now,

895
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 5: you're gonna have these guys in You're gonna get to

896
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 5: know them as human beings. And that's so important because

897
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 5: the quarterback, I mean, you're the leader, you're the guy

898
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 5: everybody's turning to. You have to have a different vibe.

899
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 5: And it sounds like everybody we've talked to. All four

900
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 5: of these guys kind of have that it factor. So

901
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 5: I think ultimately it is it's weighing all of those

902
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 5: options on what you do. Do you stay at four?

903
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: Do you move up? But also you.

904
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 5: Kind of just go back to the tape. I think

905
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: this is where you go back and you watch it

906
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 5: again and you say, Okay, let me dive into every

907
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 5: single thing just to find one little thing that puts

908
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 5: this guy ahead of this guy. I think that's where

909
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 5: you go now. It is you go back to where

910
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: it all started. You go back to the tape, and

911
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 5: that's where you trust all this process, man so much

912
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 5: to rummage through.

913
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Like we said, I mean, what does your gut say?

914
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean, do they stay at four? Do they trade up? Casey?

915
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: What would they need to have happen? And how would

916
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: the Colts have to feel in order to move up?

917
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: Gut feeling putting you on the spot here days away from.

918
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 5: The draft, that's a great I mean, that's the question

919
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 5: we're all asking because I it's one of those things

920
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 5: that you know, I'm sure you all have friends and

921
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 5: family who are like, hey, what are you hearing? And

922
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 5: I mean I wish I could say I've heard something,

923
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 5: but I don't know. So that's where I honestly, I

924
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 5: have no idea what they're leaning towards. So let's say,

925
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 5: you know, you hear these rumors out there that Carolina

926
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 5: maybe they go Anthony Richardson, they take the big swing.

927
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 5: So therefore you've got c J. Stroud and Bryce Young

928
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 5: sitting there two to three. If you have them as

929
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 5: you're one two, you would have to go up to three.

930
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 5: I think what we so I don't know is hard.

931
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: I think generally speaking, what we would know if the

932
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: Colts were to make that move JJ, if they go

933
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: from four to three. Generally speaking, what we could I

934
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: think confidently infer about that decision as the Colts feel

935
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: really good, right, they feel really convicted for about making

936
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: that decision.

937
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 3: For the Colts to do that, they I'd have to

938
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: have a group of three quarterbacks, not a group of

939
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: four quarterbacks.

940
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: Good point.

941
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: And I mean, look, right now, when we're taping this,

942
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 3: we don't know who Caroline is going to take take.

943
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 3: Maybe by the time this comes out, because stuff changes

944
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: so fast, there'll be a report from Adam Schefter the

945
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: Carolina is taking you know, Bryce Young and does that

946
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: then blow up Houston's plans. Does Houston go, we really

947
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: only liked Bryce Young. I guess we'll just take Will Anderson,

948
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 3: you know, And then Arizona, do they say, oh boy,

949
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: we got a bidding war on our hands, let's get

950
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 3: out of this third spot.

951
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 5: Or do they say, oh, there goes Will Anderson. We

952
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 5: have to get the next best defensive player because we

953
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 5: need defense. And you go, okay, well, hey Tyree Wilson,

954
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: Hey Jalen Carter.

955
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 3: And I mean, look, there there's a scenario in which

956
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: the Colts there's been one quarterback taken by the time

957
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 3: the Colts go on the clock, and there's a scenario

958
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 3: in which three quarterbacks have been taken. We have no idea.

959
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: The only thing that we can say confidently is that

960
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: Carolina will take a quarterback. That's it. There's nothing else

961
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: that we can say confidently right now. And until that

962
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 3: Texans pick is in, we're not gonna know. I think

963
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: you can probably infer that Houston will probably take a quarterback,

964
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: but probably is not definitely in this scenario. So boy,

965
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 3: I mean, and these are the things that got to

966
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: be rattling around Chris Ballard's head of like do do

967
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: I need to trade up or do I need to

968
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: wait to see what Houston does, because then Arizona could say, hey,

969
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: we got we got offers from these other teams. Instead

970
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: of giving us pick number seventy nine, we want pick

971
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: thirty five. Now, yeah, you know, and that's a that's

972
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: a bad one. It's a big price to pay a

973
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: top forty pick us the top eighty pick. But if

974
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: you think there are only three guys and you got

975
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: to get that third guy, is that that big of

976
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: a price to pay it? Man, I'm glad. I'm glad, guys,

977
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: I don't have to do this. I'm glad. I just

978
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: talk about it. And I have no accountability. I need

979
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: no cards.

980
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: I need situational no cards like okay if this instance happened,

981
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: no card half right, because that's how my brain works.

982
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: I can't do it in Really.

983
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: This is gonna be like the episode of It's Always

984
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: Sounding in Philadelphia where Charlie. Charlie's trying to find Carrol

985
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: in HR and he's got the Pepe Sylvia board and

986
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: it's like, well, if you stay trades for number two,

987
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: we could do this and then we're gonna find Carol.

988
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: Tell you.

989
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: Who was Carol? Do we ever find Carol?

990
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: There is no Carol.

991
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: H I can't remember that as no Carolin.

992
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: Hr.

993
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna find out in due time, man, And

994
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: thankfully it's gonna be over soon, because this this mind

995
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: cramping that we've been doing hypotheticals, and if this happens,

996
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: then Domino will effect the Colts in this way. So

997
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: the draft is coming up, thankfully, first round April twenty seventh.

998
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: The lights will be on then and decisions will be

999
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: made and final answers will be in Thanks for joining

1000
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: us on our NFL Draft Quarterback Whip Around special. Thanks

1001
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: again to Tom Leach from Kentucky, Sean Kelly from Florida,

1002
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: Paul Keels from Ohio State. How about the pipes off?

1003
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: Paul Keels, by the way, the Voice of God? You

1004
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: talk about jealous play by play guys, right, Luise and

1005
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: then Nick Kelly. Outstanding job covering Alabama for the Tuscaloosa

1006
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: News for Casey Valier, JJ Stangomitz, I'm Matt Taylor. We'll

1007
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: talk to you soon on the Colts Audio Network. So long,