1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cardinals Locker Room Show, presented by samdan 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Forden Gil home up at Tim hoping satisfaction guarantee. Come man, 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Come on, Let's get back to the stadium for analysis 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: and exclusive interviews from the Cardinals locker room. Here's Dave 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: fash A, two Shipley and All Calvisi. 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: The Cardinals drop another home game. They're fourth straight defeated 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: State Farm Stadium. They follow to three and seven on 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: the year after a two and oh start, forty one 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: to twenty two to the final as the Cardinals lose 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 2: to San Francisco. Jacoby were said in defeat through an 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: NFL record forty seven completions on fifty seven attempts, four 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two yards, two touchdowns, two interceptions, Trey 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: McBride ten catches, one hundred and fifteen yards in a touchdown. 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: Michael Wilson fifteen catches he had twenty two in the 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: first nine games, fifteen grabs for one hundred and eighty 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: five yards a sixteenth more hot franchise history Sonny Randall 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: with two hundred and fifty six yards back in nineteen 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: sixty two. That's the Cardinal record. Rock Perty through three 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: touchdown passes two to George Kittle. Christian McCaffrey had one. 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: McCaffrey also had two rushing touchdowns in the Niners win. 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: Let's go to Paul kelvc now in the Cardinals locker room. 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: All right, we'll get to your numbers in the box score. 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: Just tell us about the numbers on the scoreboard and 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: what was most glaring today. 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: It's a loaded question. 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 5: I feel like offensively we I don't know what the 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 5: stats look like, but I feel. 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 4: Like offensively we I had a feeling. 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 5: I know, maybe it wasn't objective, but I had a 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 5: subject to feeling that we're out there playing really good football. Obviously, 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 5: we had the fumble, two interceptions, and you know, you 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 5: can't turn the ball over against a good team. But 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 5: I feel like we never had an issue moving the 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 5: ball up and down the field. 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: Well, you're right, over four hundred passing yards, Jacoby said 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: had an NFL record forty seven completions in this game. 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: He was obviously seeing the field despite the interceptions, right 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: for sure. 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know, the interception there could have 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: been as miscommunication where he thought Elijah was gonna come 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 5: back to the ball and maybe Elijah didn't feel you know, 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 5: the corner. 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: Driving on the ball. 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: But yeah, he's like, I can't say enough good things 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: about Jacoby and he's fun to play with. He's leadership communication, 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 5: Like it's no surprise that he can go out there 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 5: and complete forty seven passes because the week to week 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 5: with him is phenomenal communication. He sends me clips, you know, 49 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 5: nightly about how we see certain routes run, and you know, 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 5: we just go over the details and so when you're 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 5: detailed up, it allows you to go out there and 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 5: play fast versus any coverage. 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: When he hangs in the pocket, Yeah, I mean, how 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: crucial is that and the whole equation of trying to 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: get the downfield passing game going. 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, that's one of our that's JG talks about. 57 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 5: That's one of our I guess ways that we evaluate, 58 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 5: Like we have two buckets, we have a motor and violence, 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 5: and under our violence bucket, one of our evaluations in 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 5: the quarterback position to stand and deliver. And so you know, 61 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 5: he does a phenomenal, phenomenal job of sitting in the 62 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 5: pocket even when there's pressure in front of his face 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 5: and taking ahead and giving giving us a chance, and 64 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 5: as a white out, that's really all you can ask 65 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: for is opportunity. 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: The other number that's glaring us the seventeen penalties, the 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: worst seven combined in the last two games. 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 6: What happened? 69 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. You know, we had our every week, 70 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: we go through our scouting. 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 5: Report of the rest that we're gonna who are, you know, 72 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 5: calling and officiating our game, and we knew collectively that 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 5: these rests were a high flight crew, and ultimately we 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 5: just didn't play cleaning up football. Whether you can argue 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: about if some of the calls are good or not, 76 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 5: we have to take on this and just play clear. 77 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: Tell us about your game. I mean they talk about 78 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 3: flow state, which is you guys talk about it. That's 79 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: a new term I learned this year, and it's basically 80 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: boils down to plane and not thinking. 81 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 6: Did you achieve that today? 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: For sure? 83 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think that was I haven't had 84 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 5: a game like that since high school. 85 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: So I'm just. 86 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 5: That was regardless of the you know, the outcome of 87 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 5: the game, that was a big I feel like a 88 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: big milestone for myself and I'm gonna I'm gonna be 89 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 5: proud of myself because it's hard to to get catches 90 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 5: in the league. 91 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: Let alone, you know, go for I don't even know 92 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: how many yards I had, but go for that many. 93 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: Well, I guess I should tell you fifteen catchers for 94 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: a buck eighty five and the fifteen catchers second in 95 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: team history. That's more than one hundred years worth of 96 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: football right there. JG mentioned you had improved your route running. 97 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: What else? 98 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: What else was part of the formula today for you? 99 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 5: I think for me it was just I feel like 100 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 5: it was a big, I'm not gonna say make or 101 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 5: break moment, but I've been here for three years and 102 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: I feel like I haven't been able to produce at 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 5: the level that I wanted to. And you know, a 104 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 5: lot of that is because as my role prior to 105 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 5: this game was, you know, I wasn't the number one 106 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 5: receiver and I and I accepted that role, and I 107 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 5: knew going in most games I wasn't gonna get as many. 108 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: Opportunity as I was in this game. 109 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 5: And so but if you keep working hard, you know, 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 5: the laws of nature have a funny way of giving 111 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 5: you what's. 112 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: Exactly what you deserve. 113 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 5: And I feel like today was it was one of 114 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 5: those moments where the opportunity was at my doorstep, and 115 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 5: it was gonna be on me whether I was going 116 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 5: to show up and show what I could do or 117 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: go the other way and not not performing. You know, 118 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 5: I had eighteen targets. If I didn't show up to 119 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 5: go perform it there, that performance could look like eighteen 120 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 5: targets six catches. But I decided when I woke up 121 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 5: this morning that I was gonna give everything I had 122 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 5: to this game. And normally I feel like when I 123 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 5: do that, when I genuinely try my best and give 124 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 5: my best, the result normally looks like what I wanted 125 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 5: to look like. 126 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: You prove anything to yourself, I'm guessing outsiders a lot 127 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: of people are looking at them. 128 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 6: Was like, Wow, how about you. 129 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest and say, yeah, I think. 130 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: I haven't been able to have that type of success 131 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 5: at the NFL level, So I think there's a little 132 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 5: bit of doubt in every person's mind, and I'm happy 133 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 5: that I was able to sort of prove myself right 134 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 5: and also kind of I'm not going to say surprise myself, 135 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: but just validate that I am actually as good as 136 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 5: I've thought I've been, as good as I think I am. 137 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 5: You know that I've been these last three years. I 138 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 5: just needed the right opportunity. 139 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's got to be gratifying of nothing else, right, 140 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: I mean, you know you told us in the Big 141 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 3: Read Rage a couple of weeks ago, you've had really 142 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: good games, you thought on film, but you only had 143 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 3: a couple of targets, right. 144 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. 145 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 5: And I think that's the tough part about playing receivers. 146 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: Sometimes you can't I'm not. 147 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 5: Gonna say sometimes a lot of times are pretty much 148 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 5: all the time. You can't hang your hat on what 149 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 5: the statistics look like. Because, like I said, I've played 150 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 5: really really good games where I've had one catch for 151 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 5: eleven yards. I've also played decent games where I've had 152 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 5: maybe a couple of catches for fifty or sixty yards. 153 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 5: Like to me, it more so looks like what the 154 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 5: tape looks like, and what do you do when the 155 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 5: opportunities come your way? 156 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: So you had twenty two catches coming in, you had 157 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: fifteen today, So appreciate it. 158 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 6: It was it was a pleasure to watch. 159 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Yes, sir, thank you. 160 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 6: There you go. Michael Wilson. Guys, what a great interview. 161 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 6: He was so thoughtful. 162 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: He always is, and I like the fact that he said, 163 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: I you know, I'm gonna enjoy what I accomplished today 164 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: because the better he plays, the better the team plays. 165 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 6: I mean, AQ is a former player. I'm sure that 166 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 6: you know. 167 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes you guys might say something that you think fans 168 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: want to hear, what it's about team, But you know, 169 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: a wolf would say a lot of times, play for yourself, 170 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: because when you play for yourself, you ultimately better the team. 171 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 7: You have to play for yourself and you have to 172 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 7: put your best performance on tape and then that will 173 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 7: hopefully echo down the line and everybody else will put 174 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 7: theirs on in that rule result in a winning performance. 175 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 7: But I think the biggest thing that has to happen 176 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 7: is everybody's got to put their best performance out there 177 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 7: right now, because not only are you trying to play 178 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 7: to win the game, but you're also playing for your job. 179 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 7: There's going to be a lot of change next year. 180 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 7: Anytime you have a losing season, you have to look 181 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 7: at the roster and it will always be that way. 182 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 7: And it's tough to look at that look at it 183 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 7: that way when there's still seven more games remaining. But 184 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 7: the reality is the reality, and here we are. And 185 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 7: when you look at the rest of this division, especially 186 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 7: with everybody being at the top of the NFC for 187 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 7: the most part, this team looks like it's obviously on 188 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 7: the outside looking in, so a lot of these guys 189 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 7: are really playing for their jobs. 190 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: You said to me, we're down on the field watching 191 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: Michael Wilson, that this is a big moment for him. 192 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 6: He acknowledged that. He just said that today this is. 193 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: An opportunity for me to show up big and I 194 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 2: prove something to myself, A validated what I believe about myself. 195 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: Maybe this will unlock him because he was a third 196 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: round pick, wasn't a first rounder, but he's not a 197 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: sixth rounder. And overall, he just said it. His numbers 198 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: have been disappointing for where he was drafted. But he 199 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: got a shot to be the number one receiver today 200 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: and because obviously of the situation, you got a lot 201 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: more opportunities because they were throwing the ball all the time. 202 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: But even early in the game, he had six catches 203 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: in like the first eighteen minutes, he had that huge 204 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: catch on the touchdown drive. You feel like this was 205 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: the best Michael Wilson you've seen. 206 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 7: Hands down, not even a question. I mean, obviously, the 207 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 7: numbers speak to itself, and you can talk about all 208 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 7: the things he does in the run game, but at 209 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 7: the end of the day, if your receiver, we want 210 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 7: to see what you can do as a receiver. And 211 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 7: today he put a lot of good stuff on tape 212 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 7: and some of these performances like this. When you go 213 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 7: out and have a performance like this, not only might 214 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 7: it catapult your own performance and your own confidence, this 215 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 7: might catapult your career for another ten years because regardless 216 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 7: of what happens here, you can't you can't take away 217 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 7: what happened today on the field. And those numbers are crazy. 218 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 7: Those are really good numbers. And you know, to have 219 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 7: almost two hundred yards receiving the amount of receptions that 220 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 7: he had, and it was a pretty and they weren't 221 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 7: like little five yard catches. They were all down the field. 222 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 7: He made the one over the middle with the you know, 223 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 7: goes up and climbs the ladder with his hands. I mean, 224 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 7: he played great today and I think he proved. I mean, 225 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 7: obviously the question morek coming in was can he be 226 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 7: a number one? He proved he can be a number. 227 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: One basically twelve yards a catch, fifteen for one eighty five, 228 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: and had that thirty four yarder again that led to 229 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: that first Cardinal touchdown. Marvin Harrison Junior had appendicitis so 230 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: had to take his to take his appendix out on Monday. 231 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: There is some hope that he'll be back for next 232 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: week against Jacksonville. Trey McBride had a one hundred yard day. 233 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: The Cardinals never really got a chance to run the 234 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: ball after that first drive. Remember they ran the ball 235 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: pretty well oh first few plays, but then they got 236 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: behind thirteen to nothing. When I say they ran the 237 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: ball the first well, the first few plays, it was 238 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: seven to nothing at that point because San Francisco returned 239 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: the opening kickoff to the one and Christian McCaffrey punched 240 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: it in, so sixteen seconds to come off the clock, 241 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: and the Cardinals were already trailing. But they did run 242 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: the ball well early and then after that they just 243 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: started throwing it and again, Brissette setting the NFL record 244 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: for completions with forty seven. We're still awaiting Jonathan Gannon. 245 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: His press conference has not even started yet, so it's 246 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: going to be a while before we hear from JG. 247 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: Let's talk about what we saw from San Francisco. This 248 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: was a team that disappointed in twenty twenty four. The 249 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: expectations again in twenty twenty five were this would be 250 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: one of the better teams in the NFL. They've lost 251 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: some key players to injury. Warner, Bosa a Yuk isn't 252 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: back yet. Did you see a San Francisco team that 253 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: you think can be dangerous today? Hard to say. 254 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 7: I think that the biggest thing that's going to hold 255 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 7: them back is their defensive injuries. I think they lived 256 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 7: and died by the fact that Nick Bosa could create 257 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 7: pressure by himself and create opportunities for everybody else up 258 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 7: front on the defensive line, and Fred Warner was able 259 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 7: to cover up everything. He's sidelined a sideline player. In 260 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 7: my opinion, he's the best linebacker in football, and in 261 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 7: my opinion, he might be the best linebacker in the 262 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 7: last ten years. 263 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 6: Right. 264 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 7: And so when you lose two players of that caliber, 265 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 7: that defense clearly does not look the same. They've let 266 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 7: some really good players out of the building in terms 267 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 7: of Dre Greenlaw and Hufongo, who have both gone on 268 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 7: to have really good years over in Denver with a 269 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 7: really good defense over in Denver, So they're probably kicking 270 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 7: themselves a little bit at the fact that they let 271 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 7: some of their better players out and seeing what they're 272 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 7: doing elsewhere. But I think that is the Achilles heel 273 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 7: of that team. 274 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 6: Now. 275 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 7: Offensively, I think they don't run it like they used 276 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 7: to run it, but they're still able to scheme it 277 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 7: up with what Kyle's able to do. They're still missing 278 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 7: Brandon Auk if somehow they can get him back. They 279 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 7: have as talented of an offense as there is in 280 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 7: this league. 281 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: They are seven and four, so they're a game back 282 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 2: of Seattle in the lost column. For second, the Rams 283 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: are eight and two. Matthew Stafford had two touchdowns, Sam 284 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: Darnold threw four picks, and Seattle still had a chance 285 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: to win the game at the end, but the Rams 286 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: hold on. You feel like, based on the standings in 287 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: the NFC West, that that's reality that the Rams are 288 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 2: the best team, followed by Seattle and then San Francisco. 289 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 7: I was interested to see this game the day between 290 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 7: LA and Seattle to see who the better team was, 291 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 7: and it kind of proved exactly what I thought was 292 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 7: gonna be and listen, I think when the difference between 293 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 7: the two top teams in San Francisco right now is 294 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 7: the defense. Both those teams in LA and Seattle have 295 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 7: great defenses, and as you just mentioned, four turnovers and 296 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 7: still have a chance to win it at the end. 297 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 7: That's all because of that defense. That's happened a couple 298 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 7: times this year. They turned it over again the Cardinals 299 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 7: last week, they turned it over against Houston in the 300 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 7: night game earlier this season, and then offensively they got 301 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 7: a ton of weapons so they're able to always stay 302 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 7: in it because of their defense. In LA is very 303 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 7: much the same thing, except the fact that Matthew Stafford's 304 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 7: having an unbelievable year. I mean, he's head and shoulders 305 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 7: above everybody in the quarterback category. And when you look 306 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 7: at those two teams, yes, I think they're head and 307 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 7: shoulders above, But I think what separates those two versus 308 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 7: this San Francisco team is the. 309 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: Defense Stafford today, as I mentioned, two touchdowns, passing yard 310 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: was only about a buck thirty, but they won the game. 311 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: Kyrien Williams had a big game, and the Rams are 312 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: right now atop the NFC West. The Cardinals, meanwhile, fall 313 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: to three and seven, and they have any chance of 314 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: the postseason, you probably got to win out. Maybe you 315 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: could stomach one more loss, but and the chances of 316 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: that happening with all the injuries very slim. Obviously, the 317 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: Cardinals still have seven games left, four of those on 318 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: the road. He still has to go to Houston, in Tampa, 319 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: Cincinnati in La. You mentioned home game against the Rams. 320 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: They also have Atlanta here and then Jacksonville next week 321 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: and again once JG joins us, which still may be 322 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: a while because his press conference with the local media 323 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: has not started yet. 324 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 6: Let's bring Paul in here. Paul is. 325 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if Paul's done talking to players, just 326 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: waiting for coach as well. But Paul, give us your 327 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: view on this game from where you were standing, since 328 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: you were the closest to the field. 329 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: You know, we talked about it pregame at length about 330 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: the absence of mac Wilson Senior and everything he did 331 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: Week three at the forty nine ers right where that 332 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: was a really tightly contested game and they obviously got 333 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: Mac Jones in that Niners offense under wraps for the most. 334 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 6: Part that Week three game. 335 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: Mac Wilson Senior had a dozen tackles, he had a TfL, 336 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: he had two passes defense, he had that Jack stomp 337 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: blowed up hit on CMC on fourth and goal. That's 338 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: sort of set a tone, right and maybe even more 339 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: important than all that was, you know, his experience being 340 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: able to call a defense, get everyone aligne the assignments 341 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: against Kyle Shanahan. 342 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 6: It's so vital. 343 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: Buddha Baker talked about it, the calls within the calls 344 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: because of everything they do, and AQ broke down that 345 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: Niners offense real well on game Plan this week JG's 346 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: TV show, and so yes it was about tackling, which 347 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: was missing at times in Seattle. Obviously, yes, it's about 348 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: gap integrity, but a lot of guys cited that on 349 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: film and in the Seattle loss and said, man, especially 350 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: the D line is really salty coming into this game. 351 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: But a lot of it, I think, you know, when 352 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: they're able to get Christian McCaffrey into space and do 353 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: so so effectively, especially in the red zone and he 354 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: was wide open at times, and just some of that 355 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: play calling and play design. You know, Gannon talked about 356 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: it all week, the details that the Niners specialize in, 357 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: no matter who's in the game, no matter where they 358 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: stand in the depth chart, and there's been no team 359 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: more injured than the forty nine ers this year. You know, 360 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: the details are typically there, and all you have to 361 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: do is look at the penalty department in the box 362 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: score seventeen to one. You know, they just don't have 363 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 3: this self inflicted. You can't beat yourself and then expect 364 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: to typically beat a Kyle Shanahan team, And a lot 365 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: of it boiled down, and that was sort of my 366 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 3: takeaway on the sideline just watching it. 367 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 6: Thanks Paul. 368 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the seventeen penalty still is just inexcusable, and seven 369 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: the previous two games combine some of it. You heard 370 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: Michael Wilson in his interview with Paul talk about the 371 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: officials they knew this was a high penalty crew, but 372 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: San Francisco had one penalty. So it's really hard to 373 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: look at the officials assuming it was called the same 374 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 2: both ways, and they're one penalty was a dead ball penalty. 375 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: The Cardinals had seventeen, and there might have been a 376 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: couple of dead balls that you did have then sports 377 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: and light conduct on McBride, there may have been another one. Again, 378 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: I can't remember them when they're seventeen. But there are 379 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: plenty of illegal shifts and false starts. I for fans 380 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: that may not understand how practice works, AQ, how often, 381 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: how many times a week are you running a play, 382 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: a specific play where you're monitoring the shifting, the motions 383 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: to make sure that you don't have two guys moving 384 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: at the same time or you don't have a pre 385 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: snap penalty. How much are you working on that and 386 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: practicing it during the week. 387 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, especially during individual drills, which is the first period 388 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 7: of every practice, you hammer all the shifts and motions, 389 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 7: all the things that maybe aren't part of the normal 390 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 7: game plan that are just up for this week. For 391 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 7: this game plan, you're hammering all those things. If you 392 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 7: got if you got timing snaps where you're trying to 393 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 7: time up a motion with the snap, you're working that 394 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 7: every single day just to make sure, hey, we got 395 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 7: this right come game day. But I think the biggest 396 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 7: thing that is of concern is also if you see that, 397 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 7: all you have to do is just let them get set. 398 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 7: So as the quarterback, if you see two people in motion, okay, cool, 399 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 7: just let it run a little bit. Let's just slow 400 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 7: this thing down. All right, everybody gets set freeze, freeze freeze. 401 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 7: Wait a second, Now you snap the ball and there's 402 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 7: no penalty. So I think whenever there's things like that, 403 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 7: I think there was multiple layers of this today, and 404 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 7: I think that's the thing that's frustrating as a quarterback. Okay, cool, 405 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 7: two receivers might be moving at the same time, but 406 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 7: you gotta be able to see that and kind of 407 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 7: get every that's your job as a quarterback, right Like, 408 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 7: I think that's the biggest issue. And I think whenever 409 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 7: you get these things, I think you think that in 410 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 7: practice you're gonna you're repping all these plays ten times 411 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 7: out a week. Bruce arians used to get so mad 412 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 7: because you might only get that play one time during practice. 413 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 7: Now when it comes up in the game. If you 414 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 7: screwed it up in practice and then you screwed up 415 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 7: in the game, you better believe you're gonna hear about 416 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 7: it on Monday because the one opportunity you had during 417 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 7: the week and you screwed it up, and then you 418 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 7: do it again during the during the game. That's what 419 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 7: Draves coach is crazy, and I'm sure we're gonna hear 420 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 7: coach Kannon talk about that because it is stressed and 421 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 7: over emphasized all week long. You can't shoot yourself in 422 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 7: the foot, and that was what the biggest case has been. 423 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: Of recent Again, turnover is an issue as well. Last 424 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: week you had the two defensive touchdowns where Jacoby Brissett 425 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 2: really had no chance, got hit, the ball comes out 426 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: returned for a touchdown by the same guy. Today you 427 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: had three turnovers. The first interception by Brissette in the 428 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: first half wasn't as bad as the second one. The 429 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: second one was clearly a force, and then the Higgins won. 430 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: You know, it's not as bad as de Mercado dropping 431 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 2: the ball at the one, but you're going into score 432 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: and you cough the ball up. You got to protect 433 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: the ball better than that. You got to realize if 434 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: you're hitigans, the guys are coming in to punch it 435 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: out and you just can't. He didn't stretch the ball out, 436 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: he didn't get careless. It was a great play by 437 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: the defender, but still you just at that point, would 438 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: they have won the game? 439 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 6: Probably not, but it was a microcosm of how the 440 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 6: day went. 441 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 7: And I think the other thing of note two is 442 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 7: Michael mentioned it during his postgame presser. And the biggest 443 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 7: thing is when you show up Wednesday for your first 444 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 7: day of the install they put a referee report up 445 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 7: and then they also hammer it again on Saturday before 446 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 7: you go out for your final walkthrough, so you know 447 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 7: what the emphasis is, and the referee report gives everything. 448 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 7: Here's how many offensive holdings they have. Here's how many 449 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 7: defensive holdings they have. Here's how many pass interferences. Here's 450 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 7: how many roughing the passers. Here's how many this, Here's 451 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 7: how many this. So every penalty that's called, it shows 452 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 7: how many they've called, where they rank amongst all officials, 453 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 7: what the percentages, and all of the things. So it's 454 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 7: a it's it's every bit as much of a game 455 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 7: plan that you're getting for your game plan of the 456 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 7: opponent on the referee. So if they mentioned that they 457 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 7: know these things, now you got to really clean up 458 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 7: your stuff. And that comes down to the players during 459 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 7: the week because if you know they're calling offensive holding, 460 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 7: or if you know they're calling illegal shifts, hey we got 461 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 7: to make sure we're good with our shifts. Hey we 462 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 7: got to make sure we're paused for a second before 463 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 7: that ball's net, or hey, you know they're big on 464 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 7: offensive holdings. We got to clean up our hands a 465 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 7: little bit. We can't be outside the framework, you know. 466 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 7: All those different things play into this, and that's called 467 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 7: being a professional. 468 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: There were several holding calls, and not that the penalties 469 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: lost the game, but since we're on the conversation, you 470 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: thought at least one, maybe more, we're not holding calls correct, 471 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: including the fourth down that went for a touchdown that 472 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: could have changed the game. 473 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 7: I thought the big run should not have been called. 474 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 7: I think it was well past the play. He was 475 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 7: finishing the play. And sure some fan will sit there 476 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 7: and say that, oh, well, I saw his hand on 477 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 7: his back. Well, any play can be called holding because 478 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 7: as the defender starts to turn, as the ball carrier 479 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 7: is going, he's going to turn and your hand might 480 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 7: turn on the back, But during the actual play of 481 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 7: the block, your hands are inside the framework. 482 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 4: Can't be called. 483 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 7: And that's the biggest problem with referees in this game 484 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 7: right now, and referees amongst the league is they scan. 485 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 7: That's their job. They scan from left to right or 486 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 7: right to left and whatever that may be, so they 487 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 7: may miss. 488 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: What you're doing. 489 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 7: In the terms of the good block and then only 490 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 7: see the aftermath or something somebody on the ground and say, oh, 491 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 7: well that had to happen, so we gotta throw a 492 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 7: flag there, and that impacts the game. It really impacts 493 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 7: the game. The holding call in Paris Johnson should never 494 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 7: be called. I've been very loud about that. You watch 495 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 7: the Buffalo Bills. Both tackles do it thirty times a game. 496 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 7: It's called the chop and it's a very clean technique 497 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 7: that most O line coaches teach. And they teach it 498 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 7: because defensive linemen are taught to play on their toes 499 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 7: with their weight forward. And so if you pull the 500 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 7: rug out from underneath anybody when they're waights forward, what 501 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 7: are they gonna do. They're gonna fall down. That's the 502 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 7: whole purpose of it. Okay, let's work work smarter, not harder, Right. 503 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 7: I don't want to sit there and lean against this 504 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 7: guy who's gonna bull rush me, bull rush me. Okay, cool, 505 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 7: I'll just chop his arm out and move back and 506 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 7: he falls down. That's a clean play. It was a 507 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 7: great play by Paris Johnson. Those things are what's unfortunate 508 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 7: about Whenever you can put the put the hands of 509 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 7: the game in the referee. 510 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 2: Special teams other than the block extra point, and there 511 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: was also the Cardinals had a blocked field goal that 512 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: ended up being good, meaning it was blocked by San 513 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: Francisco Alfred Collins, but it went through. So you had that, 514 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: you had a field goal getting blocked. You had two 515 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: good kick returns surrendered, including the one on the opening kickoff. 516 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: You mentioned this in our pregame discussion about getting off 517 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: to a good start, how important that is. It's obviously 518 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: important every game, but especially when you're coming off last week, 519 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: like if you're going to really truly erase the taste 520 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: of last week, you got to play well early. That 521 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: didn't happen because you gave up a ninety nine yard 522 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: kickoff return and some of that could be injury, meaning 523 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: there are players on special teams that aren't used to 524 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: playing special teams because your special teamers have been moved 525 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: up now to play offense or defense. But to have 526 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: a start like that, to give up a kickoff return 527 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 2: almost for a touchdown, set the tone for the day. 528 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 6: It's tough. 529 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 7: I mean, whenever you see that type of start, you 530 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 7: wonder what's going on, especially and we talked about all 531 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 7: the injuries with special teams. Okay, cool, they probably wanted 532 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 7: to see what was going to happen on that first 533 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 7: then make a decision. Well they saw and they give 534 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 7: up to ninety and okay, that's fine, you go a touchdown. 535 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 7: Now on offense, you have to come out. You have 536 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 7: to score, especially with what happened last week, and the 537 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 7: minute you go down seven to nothing, the minute you 538 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 7: come off of last week, now we have to say, 539 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 7: we got to find a way to score, whether it's three, 540 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 7: whether it's seven. And the interesting thing about first drive 541 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 7: always that's the most coached up part of the week 542 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 7: because your first fifteen is scripted. Now we don't have 543 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 7: to react to what they're doing, and so whenever that's 544 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 7: the case, you know you would like to see them 545 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 7: take off. 546 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 6: All right, coach Gannet is ready, he's with Paul. 547 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 3: How would you diagnose what happened, especially in the penalty 548 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: department today? 549 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean they call what they call and obviously 550 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 8: San Francisco played a lot cleaner than we did, so 551 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 8: I don't think it's lack of education. We got to 552 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 8: do a better job of decision making and technique, you know, 553 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 8: because you know that that was a I don't that's 554 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 8: penalties aren't a winning stat but when it's that out 555 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 8: of balance, there's no doubt that was a component of 556 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 8: the game that we did not handle well enough to 557 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 8: give ourselves a better chance. 558 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: In seven flags the last two games combined. Now, Michael 559 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: Wilson mentioned it's a high flag crew, but it goes 560 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: beyond that probably. 561 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, I mean that is a high flag crew. 562 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 8: They call what they call. We just got to do 563 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 8: a better job of handling that because you know, anytime 564 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 8: we it felt like we had some chances there, you know. 565 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 6: All four quarters. 566 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 8: Really we kind of shut ourselves in the foot, you know, 567 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 8: and that that's that falls on me. We got to 568 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 8: play with better technique and make better decisions during the game. 569 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: And I don't know if there's a turning point for 570 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: se but that first possession of the second half, fourth 571 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 3: and one bad with a long touchdown run and then 572 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: it wasn't because of the hold, and I know the 573 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 3: fans were upset. Did you get an explanation on and. 574 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 8: You know, he said he he said, he restricted him. 575 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 8: You know, I asked about it obviously, because that cuts 576 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 8: it to a one score game and you feel like, okay, 577 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 8: you're back. 578 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: In the game right now. But that that that hurt. 579 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 3: And and Jacoby obviously was seeing the field right an 580 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 3: NFL record forty seven completions. What what did you see 581 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: out of the offense in general? 582 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 6: And h What did you like? What did you dislike? 583 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: Well? 584 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 8: I disliked that we turned the ball over three nothing, 585 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 8: three three times. You know, you're you're not going to 586 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 8: win any game when you lose the takeaway battle three nothing. 587 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 8: I did think that we threw it pretty good. I 588 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 8: thought we converted some some third downs. That was good, 589 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 8: you know, but that game got you know, we're known 590 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 8: pass there for a whole quarter. But Jacobe battles like 591 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 8: he's not gonna that somebody just told me about that 592 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 8: stat Like he's not going to be happy about it. 593 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 8: We lost a game, you know, But he battles. He 594 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 8: stands in there and he does what he's coach told. 595 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 8: Do you know he's gonna go to work every day. 596 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson just told us he got up this morning dead, 597 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: said I'm going to work. He had a heck of 598 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: a game. 599 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 6: What'd you see on the fourteen? 600 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 4: Yeah he did. 601 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 8: I thought he played his ass off. 602 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 4: He knew the whole week. 603 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 8: He goes, I'm you know, I'm gonna have to play 604 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 8: well to help our offense. 605 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 4: And that's what he did. 606 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 8: You know, he got open, he caught it, He had 607 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 8: some explosives and run after catch. I thought he was 608 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 8: lights out defensively. 609 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: Was there anything in particular that was most problematic today? 610 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I thought we had some chances to 611 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 8: take the ball away. We didn't convert those. You know, 612 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 8: I just feel like a couple third downs, we got 613 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 8: to do a little bit better job. Too many guys 614 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 8: open to me, So, you know, just we got to 615 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 8: coach that up to make sure that we're winning leverage, 616 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 8: getting on the right people, and you know, when they 617 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 8: get the ball, you know, the obviously it's unfortunate and 618 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 8: you start the game, you know, in your own red zone. 619 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 8: But we got to we can't. I don't know what 620 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 8: they were in the red zone today, but we got 621 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 8: to make them kick more field goals. You know, we're 622 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 8: giving up too many points right now. 623 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: Speaking of that ninety eight yard kickoff return to start, 624 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: is that a byproduct in part of just having different 625 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: players in different places because the injuries trickling down to. 626 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 8: Specially, I mean attrition piles up. You know, we got 627 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 8: guys in different spots, but I feel good about everybody 628 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 8: that's on the field. We got to execute that a 629 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 8: little bit better and not to let that happen. 630 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: We talked pregame, No mac Wilson Senior, the quarterback of 631 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: your defense, especially against that scheme, and you talked about 632 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: the details, how the Niners and Kyle Shanahan are always 633 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: on it. I mean, how big a challenge is that 634 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: for a rookie in his second start. 635 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I gotta watch the tape. I thought we operated. 636 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 8: We're in the right stuff. I know, you know, there's 637 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 8: some things with his with his eyes, with everybody's eyes. 638 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 8: You know, we got to make sure that we stay 639 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 8: clean and in match rushing coverage. And I got to 640 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 8: look at the run game. I thought we did a 641 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 8: pretty good job in the run game there till the 642 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 8: very end there, you know, because we got it to 643 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 8: some known pass. We got execute a little bit better 644 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 8: and known pass. 645 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 3: Coach of Cardinals hadn't lost the game by more than 646 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: four points until the last two weeks. Is there a 647 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: common denominator? Is there a difference these last two games? 648 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, we're the game's been out of balance here, 649 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 8: you know, by the in the second half at some point, right, 650 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 8: So that puts stress on all three phases to play 651 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 8: a lot different how you want to play. And that's 652 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 8: a credit to the last two teams what they did 653 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 8: in the in those games. But you know, until we 654 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 8: can do that, you're playing uphill, you know, And we 655 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 8: have to do a better job obviously of being able 656 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 8: to play straight up for four quarters and then let 657 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 8: the chips. 658 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 6: Fall where they fall. 659 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 8: But it's it's, you know, obviously disappointing because that game 660 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 8: gets out of hand there and you feel like you 661 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 8: still got a chance to win and that you know, 662 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 8: in the second half. But we got to do better. 663 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 6: We've got to do more. 664 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: And last question, in terms of your messaging, what's most 665 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: important this next week? 666 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I told them like we're on the mat, Like 667 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 8: there's no doubt. You know, we're on the mat. You 668 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 8: know you want to come in, come in here, beat 669 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 8: a good football team, start calling your way back. You know, 670 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 8: we got knocked out on the mat. So when that 671 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 8: alarm goes off tomorrow, you better come into work, which 672 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 8: they will, which they will. And the only people that 673 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 8: are going to change the results that we're getting right 674 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 8: now is the people in that locker room, so collectively, 675 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 8: we got to do a good job of that. 676 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 6: Okay, Coach, thank you, Thank you, guys. 677 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: Be safe there you go, guys, all. 678 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 6: Right, Paul. 679 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 2: The Cardinals Locker Room Show presented by Tim Hovic, Santan 680 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: Ford and Gilbert right on the Price, right on the 681 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: corner of the Santan two to two Freeway and val Vista. 682 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: The Cardinals lose to the Niners forty one twenty two. 683 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: We will talk to you next Sunday from here when 684 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars come to town. 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