1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Michael Vari Show is on the air. 3 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: The moon is out this week and has taking the 4 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: family on a vacation. They were in Memphis and now 5 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: they are in Nashville, and so Jim, our creative director, 6 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: Jim Mutt, is filling in for him. And Jim and 7 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: I have an odd set of coincidences. We both lost 8 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: our mother before our father, which is relatively rare. The 9 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: odds say that your dad will go first. Both of 10 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: us had mothers named Loretta, not the most common name. 11 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: Although have you seen Moonstruck? Jim? So nothing. I watched 12 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: this a couple of nights ago, and I'd never seen it. 13 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: And she's not really a chick flick person to start with, 14 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: and I'm certainly not, but it had share in it, 15 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: and if Cher would shut her mouth and stop talking 16 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: in politics, she would get the do she deserves because 17 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: she's a good singer and she's actually a pretty good actress, 18 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: and she is she's very attractive lady. Now. I know 19 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: that women are gonna say she's all cut up. Okay, 20 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: well she is, but I think deep down there's some 21 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: attractiveness there. And how about this when she was with Sonny. 22 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: I thought she was attractive. I thought she had a 23 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: good little stick going with the kind of half breed 24 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: American Indian thing and their wedding, and I thought their show. 25 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: I will go back and watch their show. I find 26 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: it to be hilarious. But anyway, we're watching that show. 27 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: That movie from the eighties. My wife looked it up, 28 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: which is very rare for her to look these sorts 29 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: of things up, but for whatever reason, she did. And 30 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Chaer won a Best Actress Award for that movie, which 31 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: kind of surprised me. I thought she was pretty good, 32 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: and I think she was that goods It has a 33 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 2: great cast. It has Olympia Ducaucus, who I can never 34 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: see Olympia Ducaucus in a movie now without remembering her 35 00:02:53,080 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: scene in Still Magnoius there toward the end. But it 36 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: had Olympiadacucus, It had Danny Ayelo, it had and I 37 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 2: think he's just fantastic. It had Nicholas Cage when he's 38 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: in the middle of that incredible run of great movies. 39 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: And it's very much an Italian American over the top 40 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: caricature of Italian American families. They they owned a little 41 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: grocery store they're in New York. They own grocery stores, 42 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: they own a bakery. The parents or the mom is 43 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: in Palermo, so Danny aolo Alo goes back to visit her, 44 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: and she's a traditional old fashioned Italian mom is over 45 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: the top, and it's a it's an extended family, it's 46 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: a what is the term for that where all multiple 47 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: generations live together, a whatever. So it's that but Cher's character. 48 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: This very Italian woman is named Loretta, which seemed odd 49 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: because I never thought of Loretta as an Italian name, 50 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: and they're all very Italian. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I 51 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: was talking all of that because Jim and I were 52 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: talking during the break because I told him a story 53 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: about a friend of mine that I hadn't talked to 54 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: in a while, and he sent me this long story 55 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: that his father lives by himself, which Jim's father lives 56 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: by himself, and my dad now lives in the old 57 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Folks Home, and we compare notes to where they are 58 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: my dad just turned eighty six, and their health and 59 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: you know what matters to them, and you know how 60 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: difficult it is because you know you're watching your dad, 61 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: who could fix everything your entire life. And now naturally, 62 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: and it's okay. They can't fix everything, and they can't 63 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: solve every puzzle, and they can't solve every problem, and 64 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: you know, your body starts breaking down. We're all, if 65 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: we're lucky enough to live to be old, we're all 66 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: going to go through that. It's fine, it's natural. But 67 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: I was telling him about a friend of mine and 68 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: asking him if he thought this was a good thing 69 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: or a bad thing. And what happened was my friend 70 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: father who they had reached the point where he didn't 71 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: think his dad should be driving. And my dad doesn't 72 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: drive anymore, and Jim's dad doesn't really drive anymore. But 73 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: my friend had taken the fuse out of the truck 74 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: and to keep it from starting, and they didn't tell 75 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: the dad, so he would just not know that it 76 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: was starting. And so we were talking about little things 77 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: you do. My wife has stepped up and become my dad's, 78 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: you know, best friend, you know, takes care of him, 79 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: make sure that he has everything he needs. He calls 80 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: her before he calls me. She's so much more patient, 81 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: and you know, you really really appreciate something like that 82 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: when your spouse does that. Not every spouse does and 83 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: we were talking about things you do for the good 84 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: of your aging parent that might to the outside world see, 85 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: you know, like my friend saying that, And I asked, Jim, 86 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: does that make you think my friend's a bad person? 87 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: He said, no, I don't think it makes some bad 88 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: He's saving his dad from wrecking. But I struggle with 89 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: I think it's the deep libertarian tendencies letting your parents 90 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: make decisions for themselves. I don't think I could have 91 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: ever taken away the keys from my dad, but he 92 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 2: made the decision himself, and my mom kind of pushed 93 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: him along on that, and so we were talking about 94 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: it during the break, and so I thought, well, let's 95 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: take one segment and discuss that. I guess the open 96 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: ended question is dealing with your parents aging. But I 97 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: don't want this to be depressing. Things you've had to 98 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: do for your aging parents' best interest that was an 99 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: ethical conundrum for you, because that is still your parent. 100 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: I would probably err on the side of giving an 101 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: older person too much rain where they might get themselves harmed, 102 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: just because, in some odd way I look at it 103 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: as well, when I'm old, I don't want anybody taking 104 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: anything away from me other people would say, well, it's 105 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: for their best interest and that's my love of them. 106 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: I would do that, but I would be curious. I 107 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: think it's a topic worthy of discussion how you deal 108 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: with aging parents, because we're all gonna do it. It's tough. 109 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: I spend not know as much time as at the 110 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: Old Folks Home as my wife does. Jim, I don't 111 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: know if you're playing the bump or not. I can't 112 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: hear it. Seven one three nine nine nine. What's that? Okay? 113 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: All right? Seven to one three nine, I'm having audio issue, 114 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: so it's not your phone. Seven one three nine nine 115 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: nine one thousand, seven to one to three nine one thousand. 116 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: And interestingly, we have a fair number of listeners who 117 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: are at the Old Folks Homes as Old Folks Home 118 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: as residents. I know that because a few have called, 119 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: but a lot of them email Martha Golden, who's well 120 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: into her nineties. Now. Some of you will remember Lovely 121 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: Lois who was living in her home and Ramona and 122 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: I went to visit her and brought her a coffee pot, 123 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: which is one of my favorite things we've ever done 124 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: with a listener, and she gave us the tour of 125 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: her house still in her night young, which was just adorable. 126 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: But in any case, let's have a discussion about that. 127 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: She always seven one three nine nine nine one thousand 128 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: seven one three nine nine nine nine thousand. Of course 129 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: you can always emailed me through the website Michael Gray 130 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: show dot com. It's done for a girl and the 131 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: boy I like like the Berry Show. I would put 132 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: Share as one of the hottest one for an extended 133 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: period of time in my life. You know, there are 134 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: women that are a blip on the scene and no 135 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: they're the hot news aim. But I would put Share 136 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: as the sustainability of over fifty years, which in a 137 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: public light is pretty impressive. I would also put Dana 138 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: Tyson in that category of for twenty years that I've 139 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: known her, and she's a tree. Are you Are you 140 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: off the air already? 141 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: I am off the air. I am. 142 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 4: I'm actually going to visit my client, John Moore's services, 143 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 4: and I'm hearing you talk about Share. 144 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: You know, she described yourself as the cockroach. 145 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: I did not know that. 146 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, when the world ends, Share is going to be 147 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: still there, I believe. 148 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: Did you just drop a product mentioned a product placement? 149 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 5: Yes? 150 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: I did, Yes, I did. I'm going to visit my 151 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 4: friends over here. But Michael, I hear you talk about 152 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: your mom and dad and what a sweet son you are. 153 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: And I had the honor of moving my parents here 154 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: to Texas from Vermont five years ago. My dad lived 155 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: three of the best years of his life in cat Spring, Texas, 156 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: and my mom passed away this past weekend, ninety years old, 157 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 4: the happiest lady. 158 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: And I did make her stop driving. 159 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, how old was she was? Ninety? What was her name? 160 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 4: Alison bo I took my mom to the rodeo. She 161 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: was riding horses when she was eighty five. 162 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 3: I took her to Italy. 163 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: And she was on a balcony saying, I don't know 164 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: where I am, but it feels so good. 165 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: I tried to give that woman so much fun. 166 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know it's for ourselves too, right, It's 167 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: fun for ourselves and vibrant and. 168 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely And I told my kids when Mom passed away, 169 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: I sent them pictures of the lipstick that I like 170 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 4: to wear, the bedroom that I want to be in 171 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: if I'm bedbound, and the kids, the grandkids and the 172 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: great grandkids have to read me the Bible every day 173 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 4: and brush my hair. 174 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 2: I love it. Now you have a place out in 175 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: Catspree's or in that area, I sure do. 176 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 177 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 4: We got to see the Saltgrass Trail riders go by 178 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 4: on my dad's birthday February twenty first. It was amazing. 179 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: What a nice place to retire. That's a really pretty 180 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: part of the state out there, and the good people. 181 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, wow, love it. 182 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling, sweetheart. You're always such a breath afresh. 183 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: Thank you, Michael love our elderly parents. 184 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: Take good care of them. 185 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: Let's go to JD JD. You're on the Michael Berry Show. 186 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: Go ahead, sweetheart. 187 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: Ahi, my mom has passed. 188 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 6: When she was a lot in her eighties, she started 189 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 6: to get where she couldn't drive too well. And I 190 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 6: found out that you can write a letter to VPS, 191 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 6: and I just wrote it and said, you guys are 192 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 6: the authority. I'm not sure if she sit to drive 193 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 6: it or not. They sent her a letter and asked 194 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 6: her to come in and do a driving tests. Well, 195 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 6: I'm gonna answer. 196 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: She did a. 197 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 6: Written test, which she didn't think she would passed, but 198 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 6: she did. 199 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 200 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 6: But the driving test she did not. And you have 201 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 6: ninety days to renew it. Or to try again, and 202 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 6: I kind of sort of forgot the ninety days, sort 203 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 6: of whatever. But then she realized she was fine without 204 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 6: driving and everything. But it was it took it out 205 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 6: of my hands. I didn't have to do anything with it. 206 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody you know her situation, right, and I don't. 207 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: So it's not for me to pass judgment. But it's 208 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: just such a tough thing. Thank you for the call, sweetheart. 209 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: It's just such a tough thing. 210 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 5: You know. 211 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: Lloyd Benson who was a long time US Senator from Texas, 212 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: I think he was elected in seventy and then man 213 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 2: as VP candidate with Michael Ducaucus in eighty eight. Far 214 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 2: more popular than Ducaucus. By the way. His father was 215 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: I think one hundred years old when he died at 216 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: an intersection in either South Texas or West Texas and 217 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: it was still driving, and I think he kind of 218 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: I think he kind of fell asleep or whatever and 219 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: let his foot off the break and drove into the 220 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: intersection and was t bone and killed. Fortunately nobody else 221 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: was hurt. You know, there is the aspect of people 222 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: harming themselves, and then there is the aspect of people 223 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: potentially harming other people. And it does happen. There are 224 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: people who are too old and they're in capable of 225 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: navigating an automobile. And I don't know. It's just one 226 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: of those things I guess we can't do lightly. It's tough. 227 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean, these are tough decisions as our parents' age. 228 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: There's no way around that. There's no easy answer to that. John, 229 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: you're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir, Yeah, 230 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: Michael lad. 231 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 7: I have had my my wife's grandma. She lived alone 232 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 7: most of her life. She got divorced early in life, 233 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 7: and she was she had finally gotten to the point 234 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 7: where she had to have her keys taken away and 235 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 7: we had to put her into a home. And so 236 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 7: when he did take her and put her in the home, 237 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 7: she would just kind of leave her mind time. She 238 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 7: just couldn't find her way back kind of thing. Yeah, anyway, 239 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 7: she would put her in the home, and whenever she did, 240 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 7: he he's old, Look, we're gonna sell the car. We'll 241 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 7: pick all the money, put in an account for you. 242 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 7: Anytime you need a taxi, call that use this money 243 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 7: and go go, you know, go wherever you need to go. 244 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 7: They'll take you wherever you want to go. Right And 245 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 7: so she did that. But anyway, when she was there, 246 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 7: she's had a new love in her life. She found 247 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 7: man that was had retired as well and was living 248 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 7: the same home. And so they started going on taxi 249 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 7: trips together and date trips, and they would go out 250 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 7: to parks and they'd take the dogs for a walk 251 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 7: and stuff like that, and they'd go on special dates 252 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 7: and things like that. And it was really a neat deal. 253 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 7: But he died early. He died before she did. And uh, 254 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 7: and then later on when she finally passed away, my 255 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 7: uncle went to the funeral and had a you know, 256 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 7: had an announcement the newspaper for her and stuff, and 257 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 7: lo and behold, a lot of people that came out 258 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 7: were taxi cab drivers. They spoke at her funeral and 259 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 7: they said, you know, it was so wonderful all the 260 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 7: time they spent together and the love they had. And 261 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 7: this was this was a lady who was not easy 262 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 7: to get along with, but in her later years after 263 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 7: finding her love and doing this, it was really a 264 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 7: wonderful thing. Because I mean it was it was neat. 265 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 7: It was a neat finish through great life. I have 266 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 7: a garage door company in Lubbick, Texas. 267 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: Oh, you have a great knack for storytelling and pastic 268 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: neck for story You have a great voice, you have 269 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: a great cadence, you have a great delivery. Yeah, yeah, 270 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: that was a you hit me on that. My allergies 271 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: are already bothered me. So I sound like I've been crying, 272 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: But you hit me on that taxi driver story. Did 273 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: I did not see Jim? Did you see that coming? 274 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: I did not see that coming. What a great story, 275 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: What a fascinating topic of discussion. Thank you, John seven 276 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: one three one thousand. Let's go one more. But this 277 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: is the reality of what we're all living through, or 278 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: have lived through, or will live through. It's coming seven 279 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: nine one thousand. Of course you can. 280 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: Email me through this when you're listening to the Michael 281 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Berry Show. 282 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: So a friend had told me that he was struggling 283 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: with the idea that he had taken a fews out 284 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: of his father's vehicle to keep his father from driving, 285 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: because his father was, according to him, a very dangerous 286 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: driving who's worried he was going to hurt himself or 287 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: someone else, but he was. He was struggling with this 288 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: idea because he wasn't sure it was the right thing 289 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: to do, but he felt compelled to do it. We 290 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: were just talking about the difficulty of making tough decisions 291 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: for elderly parents, because those are the people who brought 292 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: us into this world, are the people who took care 293 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: of us. They are the people who provided for us, 294 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: and so these decisions are never easy. Whatever you decide, 295 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: there is not an easy component to this process. It 296 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: is the aging process. Life has its difficulties and this 297 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: is just one of those setups that is going to 298 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: be difficult. So I opened the phone line for you 299 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: to share your stories, and we will do that now 300 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: seven one and three nine nine nine one thousand, and 301 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: of course seven one three, nine and nine one thousand. 302 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: Of course you can email with you the website Michael 303 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 2: Berryshow dot com. Again, my apologies, my allergies have flared up. 304 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: I will go see my allergists and fix that. But 305 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: I know it's unpleasant to listen to. It's unpleasant for 306 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: me to have to hear it myself. Michael, let's start 307 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 2: with you. Eure up, sir. 308 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, this is Michael Young. My mother is ninety two 309 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 8: years old, has a long list of first women in business. 310 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 8: She was the first woman CFO and an all male industry. 311 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 8: She's been living by herself since nineteen ninety five. She 312 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 8: still drives, still teaches Sunday school class, and she's probably 313 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 8: been the stalwart for what I've done in my life. 314 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 8: She's she's a who, and she's still kicking around. I 315 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 8: got an aunt that's one hundred and one. A book 316 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 8: that's really helped me is called The Fragile Years. This 317 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 8: Amy Cameron Wark Lady and God of gives you strategies 318 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 8: on how to navigate some of those crucial conversations. But 319 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 8: Mom's still kicking around. She's got a new puppy she's raising, 320 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 8: and she and my wife are best friends. They go 321 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 8: on trips together still, and she's an incredible woman. 322 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: Good story, Michael, thank you, Thank you for sharing it. 323 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: Jim Europe, Sir, what say you? 324 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 9: Hi, Michael, I'd just like to share about how my 325 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 9: dad gave up driving. 326 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 8: All right, all right. 327 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 9: He was about seventy five and his vision was getting bad. 328 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 9: So I said to him one day, Pop, what gray 329 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 9: beach ball in the center of my vision? But I 330 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 9: can see around the edges of it. Oh, Pa, you 331 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 9: can't drive anymore. Oh yeah, I'm okay. I'm okay, Pa, 332 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 9: you can't drive anymore. So I couldn't convince him. So 333 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 9: a few months went by and he was my brother 334 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 9: took him for a drive and my dad was the passenger. 335 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 9: My brother was driving and sat at a red light 336 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 9: and my dad said, he looked up and he saw 337 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 9: the green Okay, how he green go? And my brother 338 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 9: just sat there with his foot on the brake, green go. 339 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 9: And he just sat there. And my brother turned to 340 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 9: him and he said, Pap, can't you see these two 341 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 9: people walking in front of the car. And then my 342 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 9: dad looked down and oh my god, there was two 343 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 9: pedestrians in front of the car. And my dad said, 344 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 9: I'm done. That's it. And he would have run over 345 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 9: to pedestrians. And so, Michael, it's just it's crazy that 346 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 9: we don't have more lery killed. Yeah, it's a serious, 347 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 9: serious accident. And I want to say this the State 348 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 9: of Texas. My driver's license. I'm getting up there but 349 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 9: in age, but I'm going to go sixteen years on 350 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 9: my driver's license without an eye test, and that's wrong. 351 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 9: The State of Texas needs to change that. I'm going 352 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 9: to be like eighty four or something before I have 353 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 9: to have an eye test, and that's wrong that if 354 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 9: you're over sixty five you need an eye test every 355 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 9: two years. 356 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: That's what I got to say. I mean, I guess, 357 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: but good call Jim, thank you. I'd like to see 358 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: the data. I think that that we get a little 359 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: carried away with the powers we want to give the state, 360 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: and it's a hassle. You know, no one individual thing 361 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: that the state requires of you. By state, I mean 362 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: the government, city, county, MUDs, school districts, state, federal government, 363 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: and all the agencies. It gets to be too much. 364 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: I'd like to see the data because I suspect that 365 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 2: old people not seeing well is not a major source 366 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: of accidents. And if it's not, then I don't see 367 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: a reason to drag people down to the United Nations 368 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 2: of the Department of Motor Vehicles. It's already such a 369 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: hassle and it's time out of your life, and I 370 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: think we have to be careful giving government the ability 371 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: to hassle us. And that's what driver's license renewals are, 372 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: and that's what all of these other things. You know. 373 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 2: By the time you know that we've actually amazingly reduced 374 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: the inspection sticker time allocation requirement, which is a positive thing. 375 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: Now they still want you to pay for it, which 376 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: is what you begin to understand. Hey, if you just 377 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: want to charge old people every two years because you 378 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: think that's a good I'm fine with that. I am 379 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: not in favor of dragging old people down. Now. If 380 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: the data shows that old people are a major source 381 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: of accidents and that it's vision related, so be it. 382 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: But I'll bet you it doesn't. I've got a minute 383 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: and a half. I'm gonna go to Mike, and then 384 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask Christina and Ellen to hang tight. Mike, 385 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: you got a minute, it's all you go ahead. 386 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 5: Oh, thank you, good morning. I really like your show. 387 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 5: My mom passed away about a year or so ago, 388 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 5: and she had dementia real bad. But it's always hard 389 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 5: for the family to make decisions and for them to 390 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 5: make decisions. So I found that through some of my 391 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 5: friends having issues with dementia and their mom and stuff, 392 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 5: easier ways to take it, you know, like you don't 393 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 5: want to take the keys away from your parents, right, 394 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 5: So what we did was we gave her choices and 395 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 5: then uh with big decisions like that, and we also 396 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 5: used other people to help us, so we weren't the 397 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: ones that take her keys away. We went to the 398 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 5: doctor and we kind of He was really a good 399 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 5: doctor and he took really good care of my mom. 400 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: I just thank God for doctors sometimes. But anyway, my mom, 401 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 5: you know, wants to the doctor and and you know, said, hey, 402 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 5: we're gonna have to take her keys away. And so 403 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 5: he goes to her. Look, you know you're getting older, 404 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 5: and you know, how are you doing with your dementia 405 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 5: and stuff? And Oh, I'm doing pretty good. I want 406 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 5: to forget a little bit of stuff right now, but 407 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 5: I know it's getting worse. So what we'd like to 408 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 5: do is go ahead and see if we can get 409 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 5: you not to drive anymore. Oh I gotta drive. I 410 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: gotta drive. 411 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: And the reason she wanted to And you listen to 412 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: the radio, Michael Berry. 413 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 2: You know you find out about sub economies when you 414 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: enter into different phases of life. For those of you 415 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: who've been through the childbirth process, you know that there 416 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: are entire industries. There are no there are they're all women. 417 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: But there are women out there who to help other 418 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: women through the pregnancy process. What's that called not oh pair, 419 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: that's the word that can there. I can't think of 420 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: the word, but anyway, they have these women that kind 421 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: of Then then there's the whole the industry around all 422 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: the childbirth process. It's a big deal. Like Texas Women's 423 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 2: has a whole suite and you know, you pay all 424 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: this money for there's there's classes you go to before that, 425 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: there's doctors who you know, there there's an entire sub 426 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: economy around the childbirth process. And then the baby's born 427 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: and the whole pediatric process, and and then and then 428 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: there is daycare, and then there are private schools, and 429 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: then there's tutorials, and there are people who make their 430 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: living in in you know, a small little in a 431 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 2: highly specialized economy. Well, it's also true for old folks. 432 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: The old folks business is a booming business. And there 433 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: is so much that goes into that, the memory care 434 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: aspects of it, and not just the medical, but people 435 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: who who who go into old folks homes. There's a 436 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: there there are people that go and there are people 437 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: that make their living performing at old folks homes. There's 438 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 2: a guy that my dad just doors. He performs at 439 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: the old folks home and he has an organ used 440 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: to be the astros organist. I actually met him at 441 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: Gallery Furniture. He came in and was playing take Me 442 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: out to the ballpark, and Mac had him for the 443 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: employees one day. And he has fashioned the most impressive thing, 444 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: which is an organ which he can turn on its 445 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: side with a handle and then it looks like an 446 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: old hand car side car on the railroads that you 447 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: and he can He can haul a full sized organ 448 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: in and out of the Old Folks Home. And I 449 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: don't want to guess how old he is because I'll 450 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: get it wrong and offend the guy. But as soon 451 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: as Gim remembers last say it anyway, he knows I 452 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 2: like this sort of stuff. But he did something like 453 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this wrong, but I want to say 454 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: he did two hundred and twenty five shows last year. 455 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, there's three or sixty five days he did 456 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: three hundred. Let's see, it wasn't quite a show a day. 457 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: So let's say he did three hundred and twenty five shows, 458 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: because some days he'll do two, three, four, but he 459 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: just goes from one to one. And they the old 460 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: folks Homes have a social hour and that they bring 461 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: in people. They'll bring in somebody to give a lecture 462 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: on the Alamo, or they'll bring in someone to sing, 463 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: and they'll bring in all these things. And then there's 464 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: the person at the old folks home who's who's in 465 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: charge of programming events for the old people. And then 466 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: you've got people who come in and do stretching. My 467 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: dad's got somebody who comes in and just stretches him, 468 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: and he loves it. He's never been fussed over like this. 469 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: His doctor, who's the concierge doctor, goes in and visits 470 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: him there, and the dentist comes there, and my wife says, 471 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: all this up, and the eye doctor comes to him. 472 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: There there are people who just have who just deal 473 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: with people in old folks homes. It's a whole subeconomy. 474 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: It's it's incredible. All right, let's go through the phone lines. 475 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: Sorry for making you way, Christina, what's your middle name? Christina? 476 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 10: Christina Ann Bargo would be like. 477 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: Victor A R G O are you an Ann with 478 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: an E on the end? 479 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 5: Or no, no E? 480 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: Are you c H R? I? 481 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 5: Yes? 482 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: OK, all right? The more Eastern European and Hispanic version 483 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: is yeah, I'm check your check County. 484 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 10: I was gonna tell you about my check. Grandma he 485 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 10: drove for eighty five years and used him. She passed 486 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 10: away about twelve years ago. But she learned to drive 487 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 10: in a Model A and when she got yeah, and 488 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 10: she would drive up and down with the street cars 489 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 10: and everything. And then we got rid of the street cars, 490 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 10: and then we put the street cars back in. And 491 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 10: I kept telling her, grandma, how can you drive around 492 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 10: with these trains, because you know, that was a learning 493 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 10: thing for all of us to learn relearn all the 494 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 10: street cars. 495 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 5: So she's just because it's the. 496 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 10: Same lines they used them eighty years ago. But we 497 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 10: were all, of course, we were always worried about her, 498 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 10: you know, as she got older driving She lived over 499 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 10: there by the Astronome, and uh, you know, we were concerned, 500 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 10: but you know, she she would only drive on her 501 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 10: good days. And she drove all the way till she 502 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 10: was ninety nine and yeah, three months before she died. 503 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 10: And that's probably what ended up killing her, is giving 504 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 10: up her independence because she was used to driving. And 505 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 10: and that was my point of calling, is that, you know, 506 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 10: I think that maybe, uh, we don't realize that the 507 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 10: people continuously drive the ones that are continuously She knew 508 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 10: her way to the mail to the mailbox. She knew 509 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 10: her way down to west She just to where she 510 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 10: was from, you know, I mean we we She just 511 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 10: knew her way around and knew what times to go 512 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 10: that weren't busy. She knew when there was construction, so 513 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 10: she did. Okay, I mean yes, it scared us. But 514 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 10: every time she'd go back in for a driver's test 515 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 10: on a good day, she passed. 516 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I think I need those tasks to 517 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: feel useful and independent. Did you say she lived in 518 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: West Q that you. 519 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 10: Know, she went out to her garage and was crying 520 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 10: that that was her best friend and her car is gone. 521 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 10: And she finally did get in an accident and nothing 522 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 10: too serious, but the other person got the ticket. But 523 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 10: she was so cheap that she called and canceled her insurance. 524 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 10: She want to pay the insurance while her car was 525 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 10: getting repaired, and little did she know, the insurance was like, yeah, 526 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 10: glad they finally, can't you glad? She finally's off our list? 527 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: Right right? Did you say she lived in West. 528 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 7: U Yeah, we grew up about you Westchester. 529 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 9: Yeah. 530 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 10: I grew up there in their first health and my 531 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 10: whole family went to set mincent Ca Paul Church. There's 532 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 10: about forty of us that went over there. 533 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: Some of our walked. 534 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, oh yeah we did. I'm a Levargo my mom. 535 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 10: My mom was a Petie which they owned a chain 536 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 10: of auto supply stores. And my dad's family was the Vargos, 537 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 10: like the Vargo's restaurant. Yeah, uh huh, Now that was 538 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 10: my family we all and so yeah, we all. My 539 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 10: great and lived over in West jew and my aunt 540 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 10: and uncle still live in West you and my other 541 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 10: aunt still lives over Officetilla Link, and my cousins are 542 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 10: all still around there. 543 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: Did your father operate the Vargos restaurant? 544 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 10: Now, my dad so, my grandfather and his brother Al 545 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 10: came to Houston in the fifties. We have a Facebook page, 546 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 10: my sister and I do. It's the Vargos Family's Black 547 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 10: Angus restaurant. So my my great uncle of working at 548 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 10: the Shrmrock found a guy who was trying to get 549 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 10: rid of his restaurant and so, which was the Black 550 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 10: Angust on Western and West Alabama. It's no longer there anymore. 551 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: Did they talk about this recently? 552 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just about it all the time. 553 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: Somebody just posted about this in the last couple of 554 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: days because probably oh yeah, okay, all right, go ahead, Yeah, because. 555 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 10: If you look at our Facebook page. So my dad 556 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 10: and my grandfather, my grandfather and my in my great 557 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 10: uncle Black say, he came down after World War two 558 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 10: and opened uh was working with a shamrock with one 559 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 10: of his buddies from the Air Force. And my grandfather 560 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 10: was the oldest brother and Al was the youngest, and 561 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 10: so he said he went back up to Cleveland, Ohio, 562 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 10: got his older brother that I needed to help me 563 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 10: in the restaurant down here. They had been in a 564 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 10: Delhi business up in Cleveland. So my grandfather packed up 565 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 10: the family and they all moved down. So Al and 566 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 10: Frank were at the Angus for I don't know, fifteen 567 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 10: years or so. And then yeah, and then so Al 568 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 10: when the family got bigger, Al moved out to Bargos 569 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 10: and my dad, Claude Vargo was the president of the 570 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 10: restaurant association, has been around for forever. He's a full 571 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 10: of purple Heart recipient in Houston. Anyway, we all worked. 572 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 6: At the Black Vengus and yeah or goes. 573 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 4: It was just fun. 574 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 10: You know, families grow older and that's bits a hard business. 575 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: Brutal business. Brutal business. I'm looking at your page and 576 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: now how interested Ellen, Ron, Kevin and Davis. My apologies. 577 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: Please hang tight. I would want to hear your story.