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Speaker 1: Listen closely.

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Speaker 2: The legacy you leave will not be defined by how

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Speaker 3: M that's a good thing. And I just know that

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Speaker 3: as rich as my heritage and culture is, that needs

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Speaker 1: Dead Ass.

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Speaker 2: It all started with real talk, unfiltered, honest and straight

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Speaker 2: from the heart. Since then we've gone on to become

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Speaker 2: Webby award winning podcasters in New York Times bestselling authors.

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Speaker 3: Dead Ass was more than a podcast for us. It

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Speaker 3: was about our growth, a place where we could be vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: Be raw, or but most apportly be us.

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Speaker 3: But as we know, life keeps evolving and so do we,

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Speaker 3: and through it all, one thing has never changed. This

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Speaker 3: is a sever after because we got a lot to

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Speaker 2: Story time, so as you all know, we have four

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Speaker 2: beautiful voice and over the past I say a year,

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Speaker 2: I've learned a lot about raising our children. Just in

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Speaker 2: the past year, yes, I'll say in the past year,

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Speaker 2: mainly because Jackson turned thirteen, and as so many of

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Speaker 2: you know, in other cultures, you turn thirteen. In Jewish

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Speaker 2: culture you have about missfah even in I think in

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Speaker 2: So it's like that age that turning thirteen in many

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Speaker 2: I've realized with Jackson that there's more teaching that goes

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Speaker 2: than it teaches him how to do anything that's in

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Speaker 2: association with his occupation. So, for example, Jackson and I

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Speaker 2: had gone through this back and forth with football and basketball,

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Speaker 2: and I realized, you know what, I am going to

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Speaker 2: Jay was like, yo, Jacks, we got five ams. So Jax,

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Speaker 2: being Jack's at thirteen, was up five am, five thirty two.

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Speaker 2: I get a text message from Jay, literally, yo, d

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Speaker 2: I fucked up? This is the text message, right, And

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Speaker 2: then I say, testaments of what happened?

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to be here. He calls me.

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Speaker 2: He said, Yo, I got sick last night. I actually

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Speaker 2: this morning and it's five thirty. I got a long

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Speaker 2: The text message says something like this, This is a

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Speaker 2: you're not here. We talk about trusting this house, and

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Speaker 2: if you expect me to trust, you have to be

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Speaker 2: could have gotten more sleep, so I'm not gonna do

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Speaker 2: six am. I'm going back to sleep. And he proceeded

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Speaker 2: was about me teaching my was supposed to be about

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Speaker 2: me teaching my son how to do something outside of sports,

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Speaker 2: And for me that's the important part about the legacy

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Speaker 2: word and words have power, I noted that's something that

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Speaker 3: I say that all the time, all the time, all

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Speaker 1: And when Jay read the text from me, I was pissed.

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Speaker 2: First, well, you had my son wake up, But I

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Speaker 2: was also proud the jackson not only stood his ground,

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Speaker 1: That's my boy, man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we teach accountability in this house, all right.

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Speaker 2: So with that being said, you had a karaoke song.

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Speaker 2: I did song, which is funny because yesterday we was

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Speaker 1: And I do mine, and then they don't have to

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Speaker 3: If it's fitting for us to have to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: So I think because it was the first thing that

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Speaker 3: Was right right. Well, of course, Jay Z, legacy right

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Speaker 3: makes sense. Legacy, Legacy Black excellency, let them see.

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Speaker 1: Let them see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But then I started thinking about the spoken word.

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Speaker 2: This is from the Blueprint two album. Jay Z said

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Speaker 2: this at the end of the first song. I see,

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Speaker 2: I said, jealousy, I said, got the whole industry mad

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Speaker 2: Nobody built like you. You design yourself. I see, I said,

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Speaker 2: my wonderful con self getting stoned every day like Jesus did.

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Speaker 2: What he said, I said, has been said before, So

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Speaker 2: keep doing your thing.

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Speaker 1: He said, say no more. That's legacy.

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Speaker 2: That like, it gives me chills to even say that

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Speaker 1: You know, the idea of getting stoned every day like

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Speaker 2: It's like, Yo, my legacy is that I'm not going

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do something that's never been done, and

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Speaker 2: But at the very end, he said, I see, I said,

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Speaker 2: say no more, just like Jesus. No matter what they

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Speaker 2: say about you keep doing your thing because your thing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fact.

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Speaker 3: And if not, at least you'll be happy with being yourself.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 3: That's ultimately what we teach these boys.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 6: Love that man.

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Speaker 3: All Right, y'all, let's take a quick break. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: into the meat of the show. So stick around Legacy, baby.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're back, all right now for Devo's favorite

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Speaker 1: This is my favorite part of the show.

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Speaker 3: What we got going on today, girl.

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Speaker 5: Well, since we're talking about Legacy today, I heard that

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Speaker 3: Oh, I did see that.

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Speaker 5: I guess Bronnie James was playing particularly poorly that game

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Speaker 5: and stephen A Smith must have been saying something courtside,

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Speaker 5: he said, stop effing with my son.

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Speaker 6: That's my son.

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Speaker 5: So my question is about nepotism.

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Speaker 6: In this situation.

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Speaker 2: About nepotism. Oh, I have a strong opinion about this.

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Speaker 2: I'm all for nepotism. This country was built on nepotism.

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Speaker 2: They just mad because now we're using nepotism. And even

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Speaker 2: James family, lebron James has made a shit ton.

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Speaker 1: Of money for not only the NBA, but ESPN and Nike.

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Speaker 2: Right, and we all agree that he's made billions of

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Speaker 2: dollars for those three companies. Right, people have a problem

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Speaker 1: They all got the same amount of deal.

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Speaker 2: They all got about seven million, some got more, some

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Speaker 1: So people were upset that he a seven million dollars.

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Speaker 2: This also shows you the ignorance people see something automatically

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Speaker 2: assume that Bronnie James got more than everybody else until

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Speaker 2: just makes sense, you know what I'm saying, Like at

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Speaker 2: this point, it's really not even nepotism, it's just smart.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's my son. I make this company all

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Speaker 1: Because Braun never went to the NC Double A. He

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Speaker 2: I think that people don't realize that they're playing a

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Bron is an icon. His

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Speaker 2: Things the way ever three other child does, and I

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's quote unquote nepotism. And even if

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Speaker 2: Like, there's people who are gms who have no football

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Speaker 3: Remember in college we went to at Hofstra. One of

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Speaker 3: And then I hear in my sleep like water is running.

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Speaker 4: I was dead.

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Speaker 3: Nah in my room. So I jump out the bed.

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Speaker 3: Deval jumps off the bed. We were like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: No, he's paying.

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Speaker 2: They have no problem with that. So that's a great story.

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Speaker 3: So for me, I'm just like, they be over here

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Speaker 2: Also, there's so many other nuances here that people don't realize.

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Speaker 2: Two years ago, Brownie had a heart condition that almost.

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Speaker 2: Remember, yeah, yeah, at this point, if I'm a dad,

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Speaker 2: I don't give a shit period about what people think

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give my son every opportunity now to.

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Speaker 2: some report that, hey, he only has a couple more

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Speaker 2: these are things they're not going to disclose to us,

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Speaker 2: But he getting there.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We don't know.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to say that I'm gonna knock

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Speaker 2: My head here, I just I think this whole thing

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Speaker 3: All blown out and shout out to my girl Savannah.

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Speaker 3: that was like girl, I said people somebody said you'd

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Speaker 3: shout out to Savannah if you locks up with her kids.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're supposed to be there to entertain people.

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Speaker 3: No, I got kids kids, was the AAU circuit track whatever.

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Speaker 3: I'm not there to chucking job with nobody, but I

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Speaker 2: Y'all think, I know, I know how y'all think about nepotism.

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Speaker 2: We had this discussion, Matt.

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Speaker 7: Nepotism is running all up and down that building and

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Speaker 4: I'm all for it. I think you bloom where you're planted.

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Speaker 8: The fact that his dad put him in bad I

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Speaker 8: Most part, a lot of us are unqualified for the

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 8: It is up to you to take the opportunity that

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Speaker 3: So absolutely that makes so much sense as you should.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I one agree with nepotism, especially when it comes

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Speaker 6: They're like, this isn't news.

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Speaker 5: Bro, Like, yeah, we know why you got the part.

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Speaker 5: But I guess sports fans are a little bit different

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Speaker 1: It depends on who they're harsh with.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Archie Manning made it a point to make sure

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Speaker 2: I think it was the San Diego Chargers, do not draft.

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Speaker 2: If you draft Eli, he will go back to college

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Speaker 2: him to the Giants for Philip Rivers. So here's another

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Speaker 2: opportunity where nepotism. A former Hall of Fame or hall

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Speaker 2: of famer tells people in this organization what's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: That's all of this? They can kiss minds with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I hope them brothers get everything they

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Speaker 6: They can be the most mediocre player on the team.

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Speaker 1: Fact me.

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Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, that's how Sometimes though, with nepotism, you wonder

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Speaker 3: why think.

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Speaker 2: About this, think about this in your life. Have you

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Speaker 2: got me here if you ever know. But if you

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush. Yeah, I'm just being honest.

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Speaker 3: What it is is absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he went to an Ivy League school, but he

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Speaker 2: going this is all facts. We're not making up stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's not an opinion, it's a fact. So nepotism runs

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Speaker 2: rampant in America. Do whatever you gotta do, bron Jackson,

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Speaker 2: whatever I got going on. When you turn eighteen, trust me,

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Speaker 2: you got a job, baby.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's also about knowing your kids and

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Speaker 3: That is a fact, you know, I agree with that AnyWho.

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Speaker 5: I know we're not talking about finance today, but I

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Speaker 5: I feel like what I hear y'all talk about money,

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Speaker 5: I walk out of here like, Wow, I'm about to

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Speaker 5: keep the faith. So I just read the Washington Post

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Speaker 5: posted an article today that said that Klarna just signed

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Speaker 5: a new deal at door Dash. I saw that last

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Speaker 5: people can pay for food delivery and for payments.

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Speaker 3: That's insane, and it makes.

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Speaker 5: Me wonder what do y'all think about these buy now,

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Speaker 5: pay later companies like after pay Klarna.

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Speaker 6: There's a couple more out there, op or no? Op?

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Speaker 3: What's the arp on that? There's no there's no interesting,

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Speaker 3: So what's the incentive for someone like a Klarna? You know, Like,

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Speaker 3: how do they make their money? It has to be

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Speaker 3: like some underlying something, because listen, I understand that the

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, no op, because I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't have one, but go ahead, so you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I've seen people with Klarna, you know, talking

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Speaker 3: it's like layaway now, I feel you.

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Speaker 1: What is the like?

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Speaker 5: So, the way that Klarna gets paid is they take

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Speaker 5: a merchant fee that is a percentage of what it costs.

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Speaker 2: So the idea is they get their costs from the merchant.

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Speaker 2: They get their money from the merchants.

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Speaker 3: Is they already elevating the price anyway?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So it's like I used to work for groupon back

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Speaker 5: in the day, and the thought behind it is they

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Speaker 5: feel seats that would normally be empty. If you give

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Speaker 5: them a discount, you can make fifty percent of what

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Speaker 5: you would normally make instead of zero. So I guess

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Speaker 5: that's how they can sell people on using Klarna and

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Speaker 5: have to pay merchants rather.

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Speaker 1: I should now that I know that. I think it

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Speaker 1: makes sense.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's another form of group economics, and it's

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Speaker 2: what people need to understand. Black people used to do

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Speaker 2: this lot back in the day. He used to be

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Speaker 2: called the Susu susu.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like we all low money.

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Speaker 2: Say we all put in one hundred dollars, so there's

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Speaker 2: five of us. So it's Kadeen's week. She gets to

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Speaker 2: five hundred dollars. It's a saving savings plan, but she

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Speaker 2: gets five hundred dollars to work to have that for

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Speaker 2: whatever she wants it for for that week. But then

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Speaker 2: the next week she got to put in her hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars and that week goes to Josh and he's going,

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Speaker 2: I think this is the same thing. Say you don't

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Speaker 2: have a group to do a sushu or group economics,

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Speaker 2: but you need something in that moment.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll play a premium because I can pay overtime.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that that's a bad thing, especially now

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Speaker 2: with the tariffs and with you know, we're heading towards

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Speaker 2: a recession, people are trying to find ways to survive.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't use it all the time because clearly, since

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Speaker 2: you're playing a premium, you're paying probably close to twice

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Speaker 2: as much.

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Speaker 5: No, there's no there's no interest, there's no fees you

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Speaker 5: pay exactly not.

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Speaker 1: There has to be a fee you said there is.

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Speaker 8: According to GBT, there is. If you use a financing

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Speaker 8: has to be a monthly final. If use financing monthly payments,

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Speaker 8: interest may be charged depending on the terms of your loan.

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Speaker 5: But it's all financing is only used if you're not

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Speaker 5: going to pay for it in four payments, which wouldn't

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Speaker 5: be for food, smaller purchases. Exactly how much it costs

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Speaker 5: you just split the payment over four per gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Thing is you said they have a merchant fee, so

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Speaker 2: they get the money from the merchant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the merchant is gonna.

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Speaker 3: Charge right Karma Karnakna.

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Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying is if it's the hot dog

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Speaker 2: is ten dollars, the merchant's probably gonna charge twelve dollars, right,

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Speaker 2: and then break it.

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Speaker 5: Up into That's essentially what they do they're doing door

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Speaker 5: Dash is already doing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So I'm saying this is they're going to find a

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Speaker 2: way to get you to spend more money over a

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Speaker 2: longer period. Absolutely, but it may be okay for you

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Speaker 2: if you don't have twenty dollars in that moment, but

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Speaker 2: you got five, Okay, I can have twenty dollars by

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Speaker 2: the end of the.

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Speaker 3: Way, and you gotta eat it, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So I understand it. People trying to make it right.

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Speaker 1: I get it right.

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Speaker 7: It was people trying to eat So if it helps.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just they do.

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Speaker 2: I have to understand the long term effects, and most

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Speaker 2: people don't because most people will be like, oh, I

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Speaker 2: could pay five dollars over four payments, so then it's

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Speaker 2: just like, oh, it's twenty dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the hot dog only costs twelve, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, you spend the extra eight dollars and

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Speaker 2: then people don't realize if you continuously use that now

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Speaker 2: doubled your money like I have over the course of

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Speaker 2: a year, you'd be like, wait a minute, why did

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Speaker 2: I spend so much money on this? Because rather than

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Speaker 2: sacrificing and saving. You chose to do it upfront and

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Speaker 2: pay more money, and that's how they get you in

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Speaker 2: the trap. It's just like a credit card.

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Speaker 3: A friend of mine, she was just like, you know,

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Speaker 3: talking about her in laws. We're having some financial issues.

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Speaker 3: She's like, but my father in law are still going

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Speaker 3: to go ahead and get this Gucci shirt on Karna

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Speaker 3: because he knows he could pay it off over time.

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Speaker 3: It was for his birthday. But I think it's also

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Speaker 3: just another avenue for people to continue to spend poorly

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Speaker 3: and not invest in the right things. Like food is different.

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Speaker 3: It's like I gotta eat out to feed my kids.

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Speaker 3: I need groceries. Cool, but like when you're doing it

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Speaker 3: for lavish things that you essentially can't afford. Like again,

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Speaker 3: the rabbit hole of this is.

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Speaker 2: The lesson though, and how they get us because what

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Speaker 2: Tripple just pointed out, they say there's no interest rate,

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Speaker 2: no APR, so people automatically assume, oh, I'm paying the

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Speaker 2: same price for the same products when they don't realize no,

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Speaker 2: the interest comes on the back end or the front

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Speaker 2: end this time because the product is the product is

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Speaker 2: raised two hundred to three hundred percent so that you

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Speaker 2: can use it. People probably don't understand that, so hopefully

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Speaker 2: somebody listening. Here's that when you pay that on Klarna,

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Speaker 2: you paying a premium. You're not paying the cost, which

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Speaker 2: is typically with any product, Like you buy a pair

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Speaker 2: of Jordan's one hundred dollars, it costs you thirty two

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Speaker 2: dollars to make a pair of Jordan's. But when you

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Speaker 2: use something like Clarna, you're gonna pay way more that

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Speaker 2: people need to understand that before they use it. But

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Speaker 2: I don't see anything wrong with it as long as

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Speaker 2: you have to understanding.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think poor people should have to not have

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Speaker 5: what they want. If you're working, if you're making money,

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Speaker 5: if you're paying your b you have a roof over

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Speaker 5: your head, you have the essentials. You shouldn't have to

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Speaker 5: sacrifice everything. You should be able to do something that

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Speaker 5: you enjoy with your money. I agree, and so, but

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Speaker 5: a lot of times people who don't make a lot

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Speaker 5: of money, they don't have credit, they don't have credit cards.

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Speaker 5: They can't, you know, buy something now, pay for it

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Speaker 5: later like people with better income and better credit due.

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Speaker 5: So I think that Clarina after pay can be a

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Speaker 5: good thing for those people, so that they can actually

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Speaker 5: buy things that they want without breaking the bank, without

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Speaker 5: having to sacrifice paying a bill.

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Speaker 2: But how important is the things that you want if

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Speaker 2: you're not where you need to be in life?

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Speaker 6: Joy is important as hell.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying going out to spend all of

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Speaker 5: your money on things that you want, but you should

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Speaker 5: be able to buy yourself something once a month if

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Speaker 5: you're working.

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Speaker 1: Not if you can't afford it.

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Speaker 2: I spent four years of not buying anything, not going

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Speaker 2: This is a fact. When we was going through our hustle.

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Speaker 2: There was no design to close, there was no bags,

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Speaker 2: there was no Jordan's. I wore the same T shirts

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Speaker 2: every day. You can't go on no vacations. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's a bigger lesson for people. Is joy is fleeting,

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Speaker 2: That's life? Sure, so is life life. Life is fleeting.

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Speaker 6: That's my thing.

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Speaker 5: Like, if I've spent four years waiting to enjoy my life,

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Speaker 5: who knows where I'm gonna be four years from now,

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Speaker 5: I might not even be able to enjoy my life.

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Speaker 6: And for me it's a personal thing.

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Speaker 5: I watched my sister get sick at twenty one years

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Speaker 5: old and not be able to walk and not be

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Speaker 5: able to take care of herself and die when she

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Speaker 5: was forty.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is different.

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Speaker 2: I do joy is important in life and life is fleeting. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just I think we as people need to do

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Speaker 2: what's important to us. That's why I can't take away

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Speaker 2: your perspective of how you feel, like because you've.

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Speaker 1: Seen someone close to you die at a young age.

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Speaker 2: So when you tell people you have time, that's kind

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Speaker 2: of like nah, So I.

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Speaker 3: Get that's me trying to even just get you to

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Speaker 3: enjoy like the winds in the moment and not just

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Speaker 3: thinking about what's next next, you know, or how we

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Speaker 3: can elevate and do more. It's like, here's a winning moment,

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Speaker 3: sit in it and absorb it and be grateful in

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Speaker 3: the moment. You know.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, there's two It's two sides to the same

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Speaker 5: coin pretty much, because you gotta you gotta be responsible,

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Speaker 5: but you also all right, So one more topic that's

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Speaker 5: going to lead into what we're talking about today. Uh,

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Speaker 5: there's a woman I follow on Instagram. Her name is

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Speaker 5: sand Bovel. She like works in AI and recently she

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Speaker 5: was speaking at some kind of conference where She said,

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Speaker 5: we need to stop preparing kids for jobs because jobs

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Speaker 5: are going to change, and I guess, as somebody that's

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Speaker 5: working in AI, that's something that you know firsthand.

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Speaker 6: She said. Instead, we need to prepare them for.

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Speaker 5: The problems they want to solve and how to be

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Speaker 5: better participants in the world.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I have a strong opinion on this.

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Speaker 2: I agree people get afraid of technology but don't realize

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Speaker 2: that technology has always evolved. For example, back in the

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Speaker 2: seventeen hundreds eighteen hundreds, right when everyone was trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out the cotton gin because cotton was the biggest

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Speaker 2: thing that made America a world power.

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Speaker 1: If they told all kids.

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Speaker 2: At that time, all you need to focus on the

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Speaker 2: rest of your life is how to work with cotton gin,

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Speaker 2: where would we be.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But instead, let's work on innovation.

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Speaker 2: Let's work on growth, like our kids are not going

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Speaker 2: to have to worry about mainframing and doing things that

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Speaker 2: Like my father did you know zero one zero one

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Speaker 2: when it comes to programming a computer? Then I did that.

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Speaker 2: So let them focus on artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence to

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Speaker 2: me is not the bad guy. You know, and I

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Speaker 2: know being in the TV industry, people just like, well,

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Speaker 2: what about them using artificial intelligence for actors. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: take you guys back to a little bit of time,

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Speaker 2: right back in the day when it was just theaters.

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Speaker 2: Destians were considered people who were in the theater. And

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Speaker 2: then you know what happened. Cameras came out and people

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Speaker 2: started to film theaters, and they they used to these

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Speaker 2: penny movies. Right, people don't notice a penny movie where

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Speaker 2: somebody would come with a camera and they would film

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Speaker 2: the theater and then for a penny you could go

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Speaker 2: watch it and the little thing watch it. And people

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Speaker 2: at that time were upset. Was like, no one's gonna

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Speaker 2: come to the theater anymore if they can continue to

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Speaker 2: watch these little penny movies. And then penny movies became movies,

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Speaker 2: and then radio, then television and now streaming.

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Speaker 1: It's like there's always going to be a new technology.

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Speaker 2: We as people have to stop running from technology and

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Speaker 2: understand that these advancements can be good for us if

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Speaker 2: we learn them.

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Speaker 1: So our kids should learn that, that's my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So not be preparing for jobs per se.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be prepared to just have a job like

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Speaker 2: that's but that's also what's wrong with society.

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Speaker 4: Right.

661
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Speaker 1: We put so much.

662
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Speaker 2: Emphasis, an emphasis on what somebody does as an occupation

663
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Speaker 2: that defines people. Right the first thing you meet someone, right,

664
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Speaker 2: you don't ask them, you know what I'm saying, You're healthy,

665
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Speaker 2: you know what's your life?

666
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Speaker 3: Use that what you do? What you do the first

667
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Speaker 3: thing the conversation starter.

668
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Speaker 2: And then people start talking about how much money they make,

669
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Speaker 2: what their job is, and then you're like, damn, but

670
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: you have a whole other life that you don't even

671
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Speaker 2: talk about. Right, So I think we should stop preparing

672
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Speaker 2: kids to feel a way about their job.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know people who are no longer children,

674
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Speaker 3: they're in their thirties and still don't know what job

675
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Speaker 3: they want to do, you.

676
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Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying.

677
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Speaker 3: So it's like preparing kids solely for one particular job

678
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Speaker 3: or one particular lane. I think is insane. I think

679
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Speaker 3: the fact that you even have to think of what

680
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Speaker 3: you want to do for the rest of your life

681
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Speaker 3: at seventeen and eighteen years old as you approach college

682
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Speaker 3: is insanity. Because I've changed my mind about fifty eleven

683
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: times at this point, I want forty one. Just finding

684
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Speaker 3: my way.

685
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Speaker 9: Pediatrician, pediatrician, lawyer of doctor, you know, nurse all what

686
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Speaker 9: pressure is from like my family about what I should

687
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Speaker 9: and shouldn't do, and pressures up on myself.

688
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Speaker 3: So I'm my opinion is, yeah, I completely agree with her.

689
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Speaker 3: I don't think that we should be preparing children for

690
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Speaker 3: jobs per se. Prepare them to be good human beings,

691
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Speaker 3: Prepare them to seek happiness, Prepare them to be global

692
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Speaker 3: cities and to travel the world and just see things

693
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: and be exposed to different cultures. Like that's what we're about.

694
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Speaker 3: Like you know how many times I've teered on the

695
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: maybe we should just be homeschooling our children and like

696
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Speaker 3: backpacking around the world so that they can experience other cultures. Like, man,

697
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Speaker 3: that's what I think is important. This whole nine to

698
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: five I forgot when I think I recently read an

699
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Speaker 3: article about when the nine to five was like enacted

700
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Speaker 3: in culture, but it wasn't always a thing. Like you

701
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: go to other cultures and they're not doing nine to five.

702
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Speaker 3: It's like they'll work for a little bit and they'll

703
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: have their afternoon tea. People go home for a nap,

704
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Speaker 3: then you wake up again, you come back and you

705
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Speaker 3: have your little business over for four hours, Like only

706
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Speaker 3: in America do you do this.

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Speaker 1: It became a nine to five thing to ensure production.

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Speaker 2: I think people don't understand that about the the what

709
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Speaker 2: is it called capital industrial complex yep, Like the nine

710
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Speaker 2: to five was a place where all of the employers

711
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Speaker 2: was like, we need all of our people who do

712
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Speaker 2: our job to come to one central location. You're gonna

713
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Speaker 2: put hours on them. They have to clock in and

714
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Speaker 2: clock out right and get shit done right. And then

715
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Speaker 2: it changed a little bit over the last couple of

716
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Speaker 2: years with the pandemic and people were like, oh, we

717
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: can work more from home. And now people are opening

718
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Speaker 2: up their mind to the fact like wait a minute,

719
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Speaker 2: I didn't have to go into that office because think

720
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Speaker 2: about it. If you work somewhere and it's an hour

721
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Speaker 2: and a half commute, and then you work from nine

722
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Speaker 2: to five, then it's an hour and a half commute home,

723
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Speaker 2: you're ultimately spending eleven hours of your day focused on

724
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Speaker 2: the job, building someone else's dream.

725
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Speaker 3: That was for me at Matt Cosmetics. You remember driving

726
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Speaker 3: to Roosevelt Field Moore working a nine to ten hour

727
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Speaker 3: shift and then having a drive having no life outside

728
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Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, so what y'all think.

729
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Speaker 4: What was your question?

730
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Speaker 1: No, she was still about they were saying that they're

731
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Speaker 1: saying we should no.

732
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Speaker 3: Longer for job.

733
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Speaker 1: There is just for jobs.

734
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Speaker 8: So for me, I think it's more about raising children

735
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Speaker 8: to be creative thinkers, to be tech savvy, to not

736
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Speaker 8: necessarily think about jobs. So my opinion would be one

737
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Speaker 8: the same line as y'all was like, Yeah, there's no

738
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Speaker 8: need to be raising children to be like I'm gonna

739
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Speaker 8: be a doctor today because the reality is that most

740
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Speaker 8: of the jobs that are that we currently understand as

741
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Speaker 8: as as earning.

742
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Speaker 1: Jobs, will be gone absolutely right.

743
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Speaker 8: We already automation happening in auto auto industry, UH tech

744
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Speaker 8: industry up. That's that's the same thing is going to

745
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Speaker 8: be happening for the medical field, robotics and and AI

746
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Speaker 8: taking over. So raising creative thinkers, sneers, people who can

747
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Speaker 8: or children who can ah create jobs based on their

748
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Speaker 8: own interest or the needs of society, I'm glad that's

749
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Speaker 8: probably the best route to take as opposed to uh,

750
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Speaker 8: jobs that are that started during the industrial period or

751
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Speaker 8: jobs that started when we needed to build America as

752
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Speaker 8: a as a country.

753
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Speaker 4: It's now innovation.

754
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm glad you brought this up trouble because

755
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Speaker 2: I have a very unique thought and I want to

756
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Speaker 2: hear what I have to say after go ahead, Man.

757
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Speaker 10: I agree with y'all.

758
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Speaker 7: But at the same time, I'm also like, I just

759
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Speaker 7: thought of it was like, no, we need some of

760
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 7: these jobs. We need some of these parents to push

761
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Speaker 7: people to these jobs because some of some doctors only

762
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Speaker 7: became doctors and became great doctors because our parents pushed

763
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Speaker 7: them to be that. We might not have a lot

764
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Speaker 7: of pros in specialists in these areas if people not.

765
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Speaker 10: Push to those areas.

766
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Speaker 1: That is a fact.

767
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Speaker 10: That's the only thing I'm thinking about.

768
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Speaker 2: That is a fact because if everybody goosey like I

769
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Speaker 2: be creative today, I'm Gonnawitch'm gonna do something else.

770
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Speaker 10: But we need somebody who's going to dedicate to this.

771
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Speaker 8: We're always civity can happen in the same field itself.

772
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Speaker 10: I agree.

773
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Speaker 7: I'm just thinking about the standpoint of your I'm saying,

774
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Speaker 7: as parents raising kids, we can still guide them towards something.

775
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Speaker 8: Yet, creator helmet I got you, do not gear your kids.

776
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Speaker 1: To do not gear them to do that.

777
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Speaker 2: That happens organically when they find something they want to do.

778
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Speaker 2: But if you gear your kids towards being a content creator,

779
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: they're going to be a worse content trust me.

780
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Speaker 8: And that's not going to be a job in ten years.

781
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Speaker 3: It's not It wasn't a job ten years ago.

782
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Speaker 1: It's not tribute.

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Speaker 6: Would you think trip, Yeah, I think yeah.

784
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 5: Teaching kids how to solve problems, making kids aware about

785
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Speaker 5: what the problems are in the world so that they can,

786
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Speaker 5: you know, either be interested or not interested in figuring

787
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 5: out a solution, and letting them, you know, develop their own.

788
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Speaker 6: Career based on that.

789
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Speaker 5: Also, I feel like supporting kids in the interest that

790
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 5: they show and their talents as they're growing is super

791
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Speaker 5: helpful as well, because even within certain industries, there's more

792
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Speaker 5: jobs than what kids know or even parents know are available.

793
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Speaker 5: Like as a child, I wanted to be an actor

794
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Speaker 5: and a singer. My first career day I went as

795
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Speaker 5: a superstar, a movie star actually, But I didn't learn

796
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Speaker 5: until after I graduated college with a business degree that

797
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Speaker 5: I could be a producer or I could be, you know,

798
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Speaker 5: something else in the industry that wasn't necessarily a performer.

799
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Speaker 5: And if I would have known that before, I probably

800
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Speaker 5: could have honed some of the skills that I was

801
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Speaker 5: teaching myself or went to college to learn some of

802
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Speaker 5: those skills professionally and not have taken like five years

803
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Speaker 5: to figure to figure it out.

804
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

805
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Speaker 5: But also I think a problem that we do have

806
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Speaker 5: that some kids should be encouraged to try to solve

807
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 5: is like, we're about to run out of electricians, We're

808
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 5: about to deny have enough plumbers. Yeah, you know what

809
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Everybody wants to do something fancy.

810
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Speaker 2: We was just talking to the young man that was

811
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Speaker 2: in the houses. You see all the work was done.

812
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: There was a young man shout out to mister James.

813
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Speaker 2: He brought a young man, Colin by the house. Colin

814
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Speaker 2: was fourteen. Wow, and he was here the middle of today.

815
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Speaker 2: So me and Matt was like, Yo, this is impressive

816
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Speaker 2: that you have a young man in the middle of

817
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: the day learning about a trade. And then he was

818
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Speaker 2: just like he was my mother is a real estate agent.

819
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Speaker 2: She always needs work.

820
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Speaker 1: Done on the house. So I'm gonna learn how to

821
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Speaker 1: do this.

822
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Speaker 2: But that also goes to what Matt was saying and

823
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Speaker 2: what Josh was saying. He had to be here because

824
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: the people in his life told him, you need a mentor,

825
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: so they forced him to do something, which is what

826
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Speaker 2: Matt was saying. What Josh was saying is he realized

827
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Speaker 2: that his mom sells houses, but they need people all

828
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 2: the time to fix electricity and plums. So he figured

829
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Speaker 2: out that he wanted to focus on that. This is

830
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Speaker 2: gonna bring me to the legacy you build for your

831
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Speaker 2: kids outside of finances.

832
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Speaker 1: Right. I said to k about a year ago, Canini

833
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Speaker 1: is gonna sound crazy.

834
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Speaker 3: But everything sounds crazy. He prefaces everything by saying, I

835
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: know I'm gonna sound crazy, but I'm like, what.

836
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Speaker 1: I do know?

837
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Speaker 2: But what if our kids never worked, and what if

838
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: we never put on them?

839
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Speaker 1: You have to go work for somebody.

840
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Speaker 2: For example, I'm confident that we are going to be

841
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: worth over nine figures. Right, So in that case, do

842
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: I have to go out there and tell my son,

843
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: y'all gotta gotta go out there and get more money.

844
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: No, I don't have to.

845
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Speaker 2: But what I can tell him is, like what you said, trouble.

846
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Speaker 2: There are problems going on in the world you think

847
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: you want to solve. Son, Take the money that you've

848
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: already accrued, we've accrued as a family, build something, create

849
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Speaker 2: something that's gonna help solve that. I watch Will Smith's

850
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: son Jaden. He's focused on hydrating the planet and he

851
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: came up with this just that's his thing. And I'm like,

852
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: that's so dope that people don't even put And I

853
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: see some comments people like, look, rich kids get to

854
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 2: do whatever they want to do, and I'm like, yeah,

855
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: here's a rich kid who can do whatever he wants

856
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: to do. So rather than go out there and take

857
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Speaker 2: every role because he's Will Smith's son, he's choosing to

858
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: take his money and invest in something that's gonna help

859
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 2: people in the planet.

860
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Speaker 3: That's a great point.

861
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Speaker 1: And I said to Kay, I was like, what if

862
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Speaker 1: our kids do that?

863
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna sit here and tell Jackson, like,

864
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Speaker 2: well you better be a fifth a first round I'm

865
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Speaker 2: picking win super Bowl.

866
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Speaker 3: No that.

867
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Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, man, what do you

868
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Speaker 1: want to do.

869
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Speaker 2: I want to be a humanitarian, you know, I want

870
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: to I want to build some I want to get

871
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: some land in Africa and I want to build this

872
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: and I want to do that. I'm gonna be like

873
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: fuck yeah, because at this point, your occupation does nothing

874
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: to us as humans.

875
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Speaker 3: I mean, why do we have occupations to make money.

876
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: Why do we have jobs to make money? So it's like,

877
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: if you now have built the legacy financially for your

878
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: children to be able to then impact the world and

879
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: the way they see, yes, then it's like why not.

880
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 3: That was the whole point of it anyway.

881
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 7: Now that's what you're working and building towards to give

882
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 7: them that free to go and be a productive member

883
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 7: of society.

884
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: Yes. Now, I'm gonna tell you something, right, it's when

885
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: they piss it away then that's the problem.

886
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something crazy, right. Had this conversation

887
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: amongst some of my cast members. I'm not going to

888
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: say with casts, but they of course were women, and

889
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: they were like, I don't know if I met a

890
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: dude who have money who just wanted to save the

891
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: world that, I don't know if I could marry a

892
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: dude like that. And I said, you see, that's the

893
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: mindset we were brought up. We were all brought up

894
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: that your occupation defines.

895
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: You as a person. And the minute I say he

896
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: doesn't work, but he's doing, you automatically.

897
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: Went to he's not working because he's lazy or he

898
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: doesn't have no And they were just like, oh, I

899
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: didn't realize.

900
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: That, I said, but we all do that because for

901
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: I was pushing Jackson for that same reason. You ain't

902
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: going to be a lazy man. You got to get

903
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: a job. You gotta work this many hours, you gotta

904
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: do this.

905
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: And then over the last couple of months, when I

906
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: wasn't working as much and I realized how much effort

907
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: and energy I need to put into my kids, I'm like, Yo,

908
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 2: what if I stop chasing dollars. Okay, we make money.

909
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: What if I stop chasing dollars and focused on how

910
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: I could be a better human? Shouldn't more people do that?

911
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: And that, to me is what's important about legacy because legacy,

912
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: even with Hove and b people give them the legacy

913
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: card because they made a lot of money. But there

914
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: are people who have legacies who are not rich financially,

915
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

916
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: There are families who have done things in the world

917
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: that have changed the entire world that people have never

918
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: heard about. Look at our.

919
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: Shirvy y Roff's kids. Yes, there is a process now

920
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: of starting their stardom. I know her son just got

921
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: a role in a in a Christmas.

922
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: And they're doing that on the side. Their main thing is.

923
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah that is like yo, yeah, shout out to and Ivy.

924
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: We had them on last season.

925
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: I think we've reached a point in our lives black

926
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: people where we're no longer the first generation to do stuff.

927
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 2: My father went to college. Okay, he got his associates degree.

928
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: My mom didn't get her bachelor's degree. But I can't

929
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: sit here and say I'm the first lst that is

930
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: something my parents have done things. Absolutely a situation where

931
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: my life is way easier. Absolutely, I understand my privilege

932
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: having both my parents and them there's stilling this in me.

933
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: So I'm like, let's let's move it forward.

934
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like my story, my legacy

935
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: don't got to be I came from the gut that

936
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: got shot. You know, I sold drugs. That's not every

937
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: person's story story. You know what I'm saying.

938
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: My legacy is going to be I had a really

939
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: good father who also had a really good father to

940
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: be a really good father. And I have a really

941
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: good wife because my father had a really good wife

942
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 2: and his father had a really good wife.

943
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: And legacy to me is passing one of those things.

944
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: I just money, Yeah, that's why I mentioned culture and

945
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,479
Speaker 3: heritage in my SoundBite when we first opened the show,

946
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 3: because I look at, like I said, when I went

947
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 3: back home to my dad's country and my mom's country,

948
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: is like seeing where they've come from and the strides

949
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: that they were able to make coming over here at

950
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 3: what seventeen and nineteen years old and working at Burger

951
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 3: King and building you know, her life up my mom

952
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: and becoming a nurse, and then being able to give

953
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: us my brother, my sister, and I the opportunities to

954
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: be able to essentially do whatever it is that we wanted.

955
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: Like that was the one thing that my mom has

956
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 3: always said to us. She's like, I worked so hard

957
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: to ensure that you guys can do the things that

958
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: you want to do, and that's a fact, not the

959
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: things that you necessarily had to do. Because that was me.

960
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: That's a legacy.

961
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: That's a legacy, you know. And then when I look

962
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: at my kids now, Like the other day, I was

963
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: on the car with Cairo. We were going to a

964
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: birthday party and he was like, Mom, can I DJ?

965
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, cool, my boy has

966
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: the most extensive, you know, taste in music. On an

967
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: hour long car ride, we went from a little.

968
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: Rat so it was a little baby, little baby.

969
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: Little baby to pops. You go to pop smoke, this

970
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: is Cairo. Right then we jumped over to some worship music.

971
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 10: What does this sound like? By the way, I just

972
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 10: want you to because you know who it is.

973
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: Who my brother true?

974
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 5: You know what that is.

975
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: Watching that Chosen the same person.

976
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: God ain't real. The pyramids was created by aliens. Then

977
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: in the next day will be like I just watched.

978
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: Chosen and I believe everything I think about the goodness

979
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: of God.

980
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, but it was Cairo. So it's like he's listen.

981
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: We're listening to worship music the goodness of God and everything.

982
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: And then we go to a little Bob Marley and

983
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm was like wow, And I said to him, I said,

984
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: you know what, Cairo, I said, I appreciate your taste

985
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: in music, I said, We've been on a journey, I said,

986
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: but I feel like we need to start playing some

987
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: more music from like Mimi and Papa's country because I

988
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: feel like my legacy, who are my children? But they

989
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: can't die with me? Like they need to hear some

990
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 3: bearists come on and be like, oh, like that's the tune.

991
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's how we grew up.

992
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: So it's like now just like playing more music in

993
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: the house and then taking them places and experiencing different cultures,

994
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: not just where we're from. Culture, culture, heritage is like.

995
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: When we came over on the Middle past, absolutely all

996
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: of our culture and heritage were taken from us. So

997
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: that's a good point if you can keep that alive

998
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: with the younger kids teaching history, especially history in.

999
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: The world that is always whitewiseh Absolutely they're trying to.

1000
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: Take away from us. Yeah, So that's that's a portion

1001
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: of legacy that's not money related, that I think is

1002
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: so rich for us and our families moving forward.

1003
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that because your family but

1004
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: us from immigrants. You know, both your mom and your

1005
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: dad came over here at a young age, so I

1006
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: didn't realize how important that was to you.

1007
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: But not hearing it, it doesn't make sense.

1008
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because our kids won't only be able to say

1009
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm American.

1010
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, their family, their lineage, their heritage.

1011
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: Goes way way beyond it.

1012
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: I think we all as as black people, need to

1013
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: start doing more lineage to find out where we came from.

1014
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: Like our story doesn't start here in sixteen nineteen, you

1015
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like our story starts way before that.

1016
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: And I think it's important that we use the knowledge

1017
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: we have to continue to push that forward.

1018
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, so we can open up the legacy conversation

1019
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: round table if anybody else has in two sense that

1020
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: they want to add to this legacy.

1021
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: I do have or like because I wonder, like Matt,

1022
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: you don't have any kids yet, Trible, you don't have

1023
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: any kids yet? Do y'all think about how? Because me,

1024
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: Josh and Kay have kids, we know what it's like

1025
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: when you wake up. Do you think about like, I'm

1026
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: going to do this is from my child when? Or

1027
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: is it just like I'm only focusing on my personal

1028
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: legacy right now?

1029
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1030
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 5: I used to think about it when I wasn't when

1031
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 5: I didn't think I was too old to have kids.

1032
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 6: You think, I do you do?

1033
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: You're not too old.

1034
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: You're not too old at all. So can help you

1035
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: too if you need help.

1036
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 6: Okay, thank you so much.

1037
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 11: I know a lot of guys that want to help

1038
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 11: you too. I don't know if you want that kind

1039
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 11: of help, but there's a lot of guys that's watching

1040
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 11: right now and be like, please practice what it takes

1041
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 11: to get there.

1042
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: Time on my page, They're like, whoa, I know you

1043
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: had a sister. How did you get here? You just

1044
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: want to know?

1045
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 6: You just want to know something, right. That is so funny.

1046
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 5: But yeah, I do think about that a lot, because, Yeah,

1047
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 5: I think my parents did the best they could with

1048
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 5: what they have. You know, they have barely you know, college,

1049
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 5: They worked and survived and and scarcity, and I had

1050
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 5: the best of what they had to give.

1051
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 6: I think the child. Yeah, And so.

1052
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 5: I think that if I do have kids, that I

1053
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 5: could give them more than that because I've learned so

1054
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 5: much even from from what I have and from what

1055
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 5: I don't have.

1056
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I think about that all the time.

1057
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 10: Yeah. For me, I absolutely think about it.

1058
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 7: I try to take steps from right now in my

1059
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 7: career path so that I could try to set up

1060
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 7: places for the future so I can, like even with.

1061
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: My art, yeah, talk about it. So I want to

1062
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: talk about.

1063
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 7: I want to be able to have an extensive gallery

1064
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 7: that even if I'm going my kids can have that

1065
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 7: and pass that down. It can a crewe wealth for them.

1066
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 7: I have a freedom for them. I think about that

1067
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 7: from now.

1068
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: See, one thing I noticed from everyone here is the

1069
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: freedom m right, Like, it's not just accruing wealth to

1070
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: say I have money, it's one wealth to give my

1071
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 2: kids freedom to do whatever they want to do as

1072
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: young black kids on this planet. That's just the bottom line.

1073
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: We haven't experienced that. I haven't experienced that in my lifetime.

1074
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: But it would be good like to be able to

1075
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: be like Jack's what do.

1076
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: You want to do? Go ahead, walk free. We talk

1077
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: about it.

1078
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: All the time, to be able to walk free, to

1079
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: walk free. But there's one thing you did bring up

1080
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: that's important. You can't get freedom without capitalism in this world.

1081
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: It's impossible. And the only way you can get some

1082
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: sort of freedom is if you completely go off the

1083
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 2: grid and be like, I'm not buying in at all

1084
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: to any of these things. But at some point you're

1085
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: going to get your point where you're going to need

1086
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: something or someone who is in this I forget that

1087
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: this is capital industrial complex or is the capitalist industrial complex.

1088
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: At some point your life is going to cross there,

1089
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: and we can't ignore that and say that finances don't matter.

1090
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 3: It don't matter exactly. To wrap it up, I guess

1091
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 3: one question Triuble had here. I guess this could be

1092
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: for me and you and Josh. What scares you about

1093
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: how your kids may turn out? Interesting already? Yeah, right, exactly.

1094
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. Nothing scares me because I know

1095
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: my kids are not. I am involved in my kids life.

1096
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna say the TV, the iPad of this.

1097
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: My kids are going to hear my perspective now that

1098
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying it. I am afraid. I'm afraid that I

1099
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: was wrong about something.

1100
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: Like this. You're afraid that you were wrong about something

1101
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: you taught now.

1102
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: Like for example, I've always been this is the question

1103
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: I always ask my dad, and I used to cry,

1104
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 2: ask in this what if we're all wrong about Christianity?

1105
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: He was like, what you mean?

1106
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: I said, you told me, based on the Bible that

1107
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: I have to believe in Christ, and I have to

1108
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: believe in God, and I have to do all these

1109
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: things to go to heaven. Right, But there's thousands of

1110
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: other religions that are contradictory to Christianity, which means somebody's right,

1111
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 2: somebody's wrong.

1112
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: What if we're wrong?

1113
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: And that's my only fear is that everything I believed

1114
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 2: or thought or was working on towards building my family

1115
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: is wrong, and now I've indoctrinated into my sons a

1116
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: wrong belief system, which is why I'm pretty deep into

1117
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: listening because I never want to be that guy that's

1118
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: just like, only think one way right.

1119
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: So that's my fear now that I've said it out loud.

1120
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: My only fear is being wrong about what I thought

1121
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: and teaching my kids that I want them to be

1122
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 2: open minded to listen.

1123
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: But I think with your intent and your heart and

1124
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: the things that you know deep down, it's like, no,

1125
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 3: I have only the best intention for my children. That

1126
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 3: I don't feel like you about.

1127
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: That intent versus impact.

1128
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: You can intend to do something and if it don't

1129
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: land properly, if impact that person in the.

1130
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: Wrong way, they could negatively impact them.

1131
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: There are tons of older white people now our age

1132
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 2: who grew up during the time where their parents believe

1133
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: that slavery or their grandparents believe that slavery was okay,

1134
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: and they evendoctrinated into these young white kids that mindset,

1135
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: that mindset, and now they're older realized, like, yo, our

1136
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: grandparents was wrong.

1137
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1138
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: What happens if you don't get that realization before it's

1139
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: too late. Maybe you've done some things in that you die.

1140
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: Now you got to meet your maker, and now your

1141
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 2: maker tells you all these things you did in life

1142
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: were wrong. Yeah, you follow them. That's my biggest fear

1143
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 2: is that I might have led my kids. That's why

1144
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: when my kids bring me questions like I used to

1145
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: bring my parents, shun them or shame them.

1146
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, where did you get that thought process?

1147
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Let's discuss this together.

1148
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a lot of that happening as they

1149
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: get older. And I think maybe because we have the

1150
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 3: open door policy with them where they feel so comfortable

1151
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 3: coming to talk to us about stuff. It's like, okay,

1152
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 3: we ask questions and they give us honest answers. At

1153
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: the end of twenty twenty four, we were like, all right,

1154
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: what do you guys want to learn more about or

1155
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 3: do more? In twenty twenty five, Cairo was like, I know,

1156
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: and what was the first thing? He said?

1157
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: You want to learn about God?

1158
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: More about God?

1159
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: He asked me literally, so he.

1160
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 2: Asked me, was just like that, where did God come from?

1161
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: And I was just like, well, said you ask your

1162
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: papa school because my father's a deacon. Know he's been

1163
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: to these classes and learned some of these things. He

1164
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: was just like, no, I asked pop the school, but

1165
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: I figured you, I'd ask you. You know everything, man,

1166
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: when I tell you the pressure to try to answer

1167
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: this question.

1168
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.

1169
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: I was. Well.

1170
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: The first thing I said was, you know, God is

1171
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: a concept. He's like, what does that mean. I was

1172
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: just like, well, there's no proof. We have to believe

1173
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: and have faith, and you know, you show your faith

1174
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: in God through your works and what you doing in humanity.

1175
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: And an eight years old he was just like, that

1176
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: don't make no sense. And that's when I started to

1177
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: get scared, because I'm like, how do you explain to

1178
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: an eight year old the concept of God and faith?

1179
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1180
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 6: Because as a kid, I.

1181
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 7: Literally remember sitting in my front room as a kid

1182
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 7: and one day, you know how, they said, just gonna

1183
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 7: come back on the cloud one cloud.

1184
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 10: Yes, I remember it was one cloud on the sideway.

1185
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 10: I think trumpets might go off to this. I had

1186
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 10: no man knows the time, no doubt.

1187
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: And I'm saying right, and I'm like, I don't want

1188
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 3: to hear the thunder and I don't start rising.

1189
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: A funny story.

1190
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: Y'all know about the rapture, right, yeah, you know about

1191
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: the rapture trouble, so I for whoever does know the rapture.

1192
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: The rapture is the idea that God is gonna come

1193
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: back and he's gonna take all of his people who

1194
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: believed in him with him to heaven, and everyone else

1195
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 2: here is gonna stay here. The world is going to collapse,

1196
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: and then when they died, they'll be stuck in purgatory.

1197
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: So I remember waking up at my nana's house and

1198
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: all of my parents, aunts and uncles had all left.

1199
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: We would all get together for like a family reunion,

1200
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: but our.

1201
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: Parents would do stuff like we all go to sleep

1202
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: at night and then you wake up in the morning

1203
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: and they be gone because they don't want to do

1204
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: the big goodbyes, you know, we all young kids. I

1205
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: remember bawling my eyes out because I thought the rapture

1206
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: happened and they were all gone, and they left and

1207
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: all the kids got left here, and I remember thinking

1208
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: to myself, what.

1209
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 12: Am I gonna do?

1210
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: My parents are gone, I'm gonna be in purgatory. No

1211
00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: idea what purgatory was.

1212
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 2: But you know, you go to church at a young

1213
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: age and you see the cross up there and yeah

1214
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: this you do this, you go to hell.

1215
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: You do this, you go to hell.

1216
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 10: You sit that one person's going to be in the bed,

1217
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 10: the other person's going to be gone. Bro, you wonder

1218
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 10: what happened?

1219
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: So I understand how I literally woke up.

1220
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: And it didn't help that they had a rapture playing

1221
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: in my church. So I watched the Rapture play and

1222
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: I watched them do like the fake disaster scenes, by

1223
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: the way, would be a really good movie, like the

1224
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: Rapture movie where the guy comes down and takes away

1225
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: one third of the people.

1226
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 4: They have a few of them they do.

1227
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: Are they good?

1228
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 4: I haven't seen them in years, but there's a few that.

1229
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: With technology where it is now, could you imagine it

1230
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: would be like the end of the Earth means a

1231
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: couple of those would be like the show Paradise, Yeah,

1232
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: where you got to start over and figure it out right, watching.

1233
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 3: Everything and whatnot. This is the show the chosen. Cairo

1234
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: was like, I want to watch that when we have

1235
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: our date day or day night is yeah, and that's

1236
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: the one.

1237
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1238
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: So I was like okay, So he really wanting to

1239
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: know about the that's now I have a responsibility to

1240
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 3: make sure that my boy is learning more about God.

1241
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 3: So you know, it's also helpful that they're in a

1242
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: Christian school, so they're getting a good foundation, and then

1243
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 3: we just have to kind of nurture that outside of it.

1244
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: So I think that's important too when we talk about

1245
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 2: what we passed down to our kids. Legacy wise, it's

1246
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 2: a spiritual foundation. Is if you don't have a spiritual foundation,

1247
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: you can be really lost out here. I think, imagine

1248
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: if you don't believe in anything or anyone or any

1249
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: idea that there is better for you if you work

1250
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: towards it, and you out here, you eighteen and you

1251
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: randomly lose your job because they decide to downsize. Now

1252
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: you just my job was everything, that's who I am,

1253
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: and now I don't have my job, and then people

1254
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: go nuts.

1255
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, So passing legacy is passing down a spiritual foundation.

1256
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think the only thing that scares me about

1257
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 3: the kids or how they might turn out is just

1258
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: the world around them, like everybody else. My mom used

1259
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: to say it all the time. She's like, I don't

1260
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: worry about you, worry about them. Everybody else the world.

1261
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 3: That's what I worry about, And I'm like, I freaking

1262
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: understand it now. It's like, but so much we can

1263
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 3: do as parents in a controlled environment that's just that

1264
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 3: is our house. But the many you leave those doors,

1265
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 3: you know, I'm already erect thinking about Jackson being in

1266
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: college without me, Like I just it's the world, it's

1267
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: everything else, it's all the other elements that just scare me.

1268
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something that y'all gonna think this

1269
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: is funny, But I don't think it's funny. I think

1270
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: the world is better now than it it's ever been.

1271
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: Think about it. We've come from world wars, apartheid, genocide, slavery, right,

1272
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 2: think about all of those things that happened, right that

1273
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: those are the worst atrocities that happen.

1274
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: Right, Well, they're happening in other parts of the world

1275
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: now still.

1276
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about where we are, our our world.

1277
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that America is a perfect place. But

1278
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is we are learning as a people

1279
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: from history, and people are trying now not to duplicate

1280
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 2: the same things that's happened in the past. I think

1281
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: part of the problem is social media has put us

1282
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: to the point where anything negative that happens goes on

1283
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: social media and it gets sensationalized. Could you imagine if

1284
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 2: social media existed during slavery? How bad the world would

1285
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 2: have looked. Could you imagine if social media existed during

1286
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: World War One? Could you imagine if social media existed

1287
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: when Leopold was in Africa killing eighteen million, twenty million Africans.

1288
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. It's like where we are

1289
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: relative to where the world was in that moment, it's

1290
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: nowhere near us. Gruesome.

1291
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: Think about the Crusades, right, the Christian Crusades. They were

1292
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: just going around killing millions of people in the name

1293
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 2: of God.

1294
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1295
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: The world isn't as bad as it was then, but

1296
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: we're living in and now when we get to watch

1297
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: in a real time so and the reason why I

1298
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: say that's not to say that I think the world's

1299
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: in a good place. It's really just to say, we

1300
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: have a responsibility to teach our kids to be better.

1301
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: Agreed, you know what I'm saying. And if we teach

1302
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: them to be better, all of us the world will

1303
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: be better.

1304
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 3: That's ultimate topic. Yeah, Yeah, as we round out this

1305
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 3: before we pay some bills. The last thing that came

1306
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: to mind for me was this past Christmas. Jackson wrote

1307
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: a letter to de Valini for Christmas, and it was

1308
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: a three page letter that he wrote. I think it

1309
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 3: was like after his Bible clash or something. But guys

1310
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: like Devalini sobbed when we read this letter because it

1311
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 3: wasn't only just you know, me being a grammar police,

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00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 3: the way it was constructed, the way his thoughts were

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00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: so like put together, and then the way he expressed

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00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: his understanding for what it means to be a parent

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Speaker 3: raising a child. Yes, Matt got to read it like

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00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: blown away by my thirteen year old, and the way

1317
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: he was able to express himself and the candor and

1318
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: the eloquence in that letter was like unlike anything I

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00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: had ever seen, and it just made me feel like

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00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 3: we're doing a great job. The thing we're doing a

1321
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: great job protect Jackson at all costs because he's just

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Speaker 3: such an amazing individual. And I'm so inspired by my children,

1323
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 3: but him being the oldest, and I see how much

1324
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: like he's working to be the best version of himself

1325
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: in every aspect of life. It's like if that's the

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Speaker 3: beginning of what our legacy looks like. Dap me up

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00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: ellis left it. Thanks, y'all. All right, before we start sobbing.

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Speaker 1: Talking about it, I'm gonna crying. I'm not crying. Let's

1329
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Speaker 1: take a podcast a couple of times, a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: You see how I brought that together, masculinity.

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Speaker 3: Let's go take a quick break, and we'll be back

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Speaker 3: with listening letters. Y'all all right, and we're back with

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Speaker 3: listener letters. I hope by now you guys have figured

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Speaker 3: out the new email address, you know, so that way

1335
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Speaker 3: you can write in and hopefully get picked.

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Speaker 1: I got to put this out here first.

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01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: I fully got dressed first, and I know y'all see

1338
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: us matching, right and before y'all think look at the

1339
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: vow dressing like Kadeen.

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Speaker 1: Nope, I put this together first. I was ready first,

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Speaker 1: and was ready first.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So the funny thing is right, I'm like, oh, now

1344
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: that like I'm trying to get addressed for the podcast.

1345
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 3: Since we're doing it new, I was like, let me

1346
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: just start like running out some stuff in my closet.

1347
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: A that didn't fit me before, Henny that fit now? Okay,

1348
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: it's fitting and yeah. So when I saw her dress

1349
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 3: this morning, I started. I said, let me start at

1350
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: the top of the closet and work my way this way.

1351
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 3: And this was like one of the third or fourth

1352
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Speaker 3: outfits that I saw, and I was like, she fits

1353
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 3: and she matches, So yeah, I did. Yes, I matched

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Speaker 3: your fly today.

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Speaker 1: I inspired her.

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Speaker 4: You did?

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01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: You inspire me every day? I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: Back to the task at hand, Hey, Kadian.

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Speaker 1: Devil, that's always a task at hand. Don't get it.

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Speaker 3: This is this is just ancillary shit we're doing here. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Kadeian Develle love the practical adulting and relationship episodes the most,

1363
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Speaker 3: and I have no dating life or experience by choice

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01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 3: to bring up anyway. I've been going through some monumental

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 3: changes in the last few years and have some incoming

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Speaker 3: financial comfort. I still live in my childhood home with

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Speaker 3: a sibling and their child, since our parents passing as

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Speaker 3: soon as they can, as soon as they can handle

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Speaker 3: the property. I'd like to live alone in my late

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Speaker 3: twenties in New York City before a man and family

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Speaker 3: enter the picture. I have no idea where to start,

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Speaker 3: and there seems to be some shock or confusion from

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01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 3: our extended family about us or me doing so in

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Speaker 3: the near future. My credit is good already invests, have

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Speaker 3: a profitable side hustle slash skill. I make good money

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Speaker 3: for a single young woman and very little expenses or advices.

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Speaker 1: This is sounding good, trible eyes perked up.

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01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 3: I my eminent financial situation may allow me to become

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Speaker 3: a home owner in my own right, but not sure.

1380
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 3: The landlord life is for me seeing how bad tenants

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01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: can be, and that responsibility is what I want a

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Speaker 3: break from Any advice would be appreciated. The roommate thing

1383
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 3: is off the table, and staying home is no longer

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Speaker 3: comfortable for me. I'm ready to see who I am

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Speaker 3: without family in the next room, up the block and

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Speaker 3: around the corner.

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Speaker 1: I understand her on this. I have very quick advice.

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Speaker 2: Right, I would say, right now, the interest rates are

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Speaker 2: extremely high and everything is high, so it's about to

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Speaker 2: be a seller's market. I would save as much money

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Speaker 2: as you can in the next upcoming months and buy

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Speaker 2: a property as opposed to renting, because all you're going

1393
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: to do when you rent is give your money to

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01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: fund someone else's dream. Hopefully, over the past couple of

1395
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: years you've saved so that you can put a down

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Speaker 2: payment ten percent on something a condo in New York.

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Speaker 1: Getting a condo in New York is.

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Speaker 2: Gonna cost you up eight hundred thousand dollars, so you

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01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: figure ten percent of that means you have to have

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Speaker 2: eighty thousand dollars in the bank.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't have that, I wouldn't move to

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Speaker 1: New York. Now, if you want to.

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Speaker 2: Rent in New York, a nice apartment anywhere in New

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01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: York is going to cost you over four thousand dollars

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01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: a month, which about forty eight thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: So think about your choices before you make them. Living

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Speaker 2: in New York is one of the most expensive places

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Speaker 2: to live is New York in California.

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Speaker 1: So those are just some things you have to think about.

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Speaker 1: But I would.

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Speaker 2: Definitely go to buy something before I rent if you

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01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: don't want to have the responsibility to pay someone else's bills.

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01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: But I do understand that being a landlord is troubling.

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01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: That's why we chose not to be a landlord in

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Speaker 2: New York. Being a landlord is New York one is

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01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: the hardest places to be a landlord because when someone

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Speaker 2: gets there, they don't pay rent. It's going to take

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01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: you six months to a year to move out, and

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01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 2: if people start to squat on your land, it takes

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Speaker 2: them even longer to get out.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I wouldn't do no properties in New York right now.

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Speaker 1: That's just my take, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you were going to purchase something in

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Speaker 3: New York, I would say, then you live in it

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01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 3: and not get it as like an investment property where

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Speaker 3: you're doing rentals. But it seems like you have your

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Speaker 3: head on pretty straight bood, like you got your adults

1428
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 3: in a row, you know, and a lot of times

1429
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 3: you got to kind of wait till the right move,

1430
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: like not just jumping into something because you feel like

1431
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 3: you're starting to get a little uncomfortable. But if you

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01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: have everything set up.

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Speaker 2: She said something that you said before that she said

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01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: that she wants to live on her own without a

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01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: man or kids before she gets married.

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01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 10: I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Caudeina and I both say if there was one thing

1439
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: we could do differently, just by choice, to learn ourselves,

1440
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: it would be before we moved in together.

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01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: She would live on her own and I would live

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01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: on my own, just so that we could see what

1443
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: that feels what it felt like. Yeah, we've never had

1444
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: that as adults, but I.

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01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 3: Think us trying to be adult in our thinking and

1446
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 3: trying to be wise at the time financially, it didn't

1447
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: make sense. If we're together, we want to be together.

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01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: It's like, why would I go get an apartment, then

1449
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 3: you get an apartment just for the sake of saying

1450
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 3: that we have our own apartments essentially probably stay in

1451
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: either majority of the time. It just didn't make sense.

1452
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: It's like, why not just pull our resources together and

1453
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: live in one place and pay one rent, you know.

1454
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 3: So that was what we did. But yeah, in hindsight,

1455
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 3: we're like, it would have just been nice to have

1456
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 3: a little bit of that. You know, here's my place.

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 3: You can come by. I'll give you a key maybe

1458
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: maybe maybe maybe.

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01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: I wouldn't need a key, get the door, cost need

1460
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: a key. Trust me, I'm like trouble, I find the

1461
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: colde and I be in your.

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01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: Bes before you.

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01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 5: Too.

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01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: You go walking in, like, I don't worry about that

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01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: four floor.

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01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: I'm happy, I got strong arms, I'm happy here, good

1467
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 3: to see you. That's how you absolutely would be like that.

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01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 4: I know that, so.

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01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 3: Listen and it would change pretty much so good luck

1470
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 3: to you in your future endeavors. It seems like you

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01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: got your head on street. As my grandmother would say.

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Speaker 2: All right, so if you'd like to be featured as

1473
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 2: one of our listening letters, email us that els advice.

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Speaker 1: That's th H E E L L I S A

1475
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: D D I C E at Gmail.

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Speaker 3: All right, y'all, moment of truth time. We're talking about legacy.

1477
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 3: I guess at this point in its totality, not specifically

1478
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: having to do with money, but knowing that that will

1479
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 3: help to give you some autonomy over your life. So

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01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 3: what's your final thoughts on that I got.

1481
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: I got a lot of thoughts, but this one thought

1482
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: really came to my mind after we had that discussion, is, man,

1483
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 2: I just don't want to fuck my kids out. MH

1484
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: like legas legacy. Everybody thinks legacies. I did this, I

1485
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: won this many I made this much money. No, man,

1486
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 2: I have four beautiful humans that came from us too,

1487
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 2: and I really just don't want to mess them up.

1488
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: I want them to be strong, free, powerful black man,

1489
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: and to me, that's going to be my legacy. All

1490
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: four of my boys lined up doing whatever they want

1491
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 2: to do in life, having autonomy over their time and

1492
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: space and everything.

1493
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: And that's just that's what legacy means to me.

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01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, for me, it's just being more deliberate.

1495
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 3: I think as our boys get older, speaking specifically about

1496
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: our family, just being more deliberate about the things that

1497
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: I want to pass down to my children, the things

1498
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 3: that I want them to know and to see and

1499
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: to feel when they think about who am I? Who

1500
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 3: am I as a person? Where have I come from?

1501
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 3: You know, as my parents get older now now having

1502
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 3: lost actually yesterday it was the one year university of

1503
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 3: my grandmother passed and my last living grandparent, and I

1504
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: just think about the richness of my culture and my heritage,

1505
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 3: and like how much they've taught me, those experiences that

1506
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 3: I've had with them, the things that I know will

1507
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 3: live on. What happened?

1508
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 2: Remember I asked you two days ago, I said, Mom's

1509
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: walking around with a heaviness, Like, what's the matter, Shoot,

1510
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: Grandma's passing.

1511
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think about it.

1512
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about myself like grandma past, not even thinking

1513
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 2: about how mom my mom.

1514
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:15,959
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1515
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: I didn't realize the day either until yesterday I was like, oh, shoot,

1516
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 3: we were actually filming and I was like, oh, shoot,

1517
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 3: today is the one year anniversary since that my aunt

1518
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 3: called me and I was like, oh, yeah, I think

1519
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 3: I know.

1520
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't put together.

1521
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might have been the approach to to this,

1522
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 3: but yeah, So just just thinking about how much how

1523
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 3: much I am because of the legacy that was instilled

1524
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 3: in me through my grandparents and my parents, and then

1525
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 3: how fortunate we are to have my parents here with

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Speaker 3: our children, your parents here with our children, so that

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Speaker 3: they can tell the rich stories and they can, you know,

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01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 3: learn the recipes like popa scoop and making sweet potato

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01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 3: pies because all the boys love this wee potato pie.

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Speaker 3: But that, for me is also legacy wrapped up. It's

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01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 3: not just about the financial portion of it. It's about

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01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 3: the richness of who we are.

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01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 7: For me is to keep building the capital to give

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01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 7: my kids the freedom, give my my wife and kids

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 7: the freedom in the future, and then also collecting more

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01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 7: thinking about more cultural moments and things of that nature

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01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 7: that I want to pass down in the future for me.

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01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 8: Got kids right now, I like, yeah, yeah, My My

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01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 8: moment of truth is if you aren't thinking about legacy,

1540
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 8: you just think about uh my moment of truth is

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01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 8: if you aren't thinking about legacy, you're only thinking about

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01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 8: short term and you're only living in a moment like

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01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 8: that is that is?

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01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good. See Josh was be coming with

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01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: the concise points and he'd be like, I don't like

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01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: to be on camera.

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01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 9: That was good.

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01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 6: Bro's over there asking chat GPT.

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01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 8: We first off, well, first off, first off, if I'm

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01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 8: not Secondly, I didn't really get to talk about legacy

1551
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 8: in this episode having Victoria, so I think about legacy.

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01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 8: Legacy is a constant conversation in my household, and I'm

1553
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 8: constantly thinking about my own legacy because I don't want

1554
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 8: to poison my daughter with my bad habits, So I

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01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 8: think about it constantly, constantly, And Victoria she's a mirror

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01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 8: of myself and Annika, and she's her own person.

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01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 4: So I'm constantly thinking about legacy.

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01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: So no, it's not Chad GBT you a question, the

1559
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 2: serious question though, So you think about her being a

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: wife and how she's going to be, like the type

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 2: of man she chooses.

1562
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: When you say you don't want to poison.

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 8: All of that, I'm thinking about the type of wife

1564
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 8: she will be, the type of earner, she will be

1565
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 8: the type of person in society that she will be,

1566
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 8: and I don't want my bad habits to rub off

1567
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 8: on her. She said something last week, she was making

1568
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 8: a video whatever, and she's like, this is my parents.

1569
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 8: They're so overprotective. And I was just like, I didn't

1570
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 8: want to ruin her video. But we had a conversation. Well,

1571
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 8: I talked to Nika afterwards. I was like, yo, Victoria said,

1572
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 8: we're overprotective. And then I had to have a conversation

1573
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 8: with her because I don't want her to be a

1574
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 8: fearful person in life because we're overshadowing her.

1575
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 4: But I had to correct her. I said, Yo, we're

1576
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 4: not overprotective.

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01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 8: You have a cell phone, right, Like you watch almost

1578
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 8: anything that you watch that's age appropriate, right, Like you

1579
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 8: know you you go on.

1580
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 4: Playdas with your friends, we take you out. You're not overprotective.

1581
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 8: I said, what you what we are is protective of you, right,

1582
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 8: And I don't want you to misconstrue that with being overprotective,

1583
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 8: because people who are overprotective, I know you see them

1584
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 8: when they get to college.

1585
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 4: They on girl wow.

1586
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 8: And having a daughter, you're thinking constantly, thinking about the

1587
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 8: things that the decisions that I make, the things that

1588
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 8: I say to her, the way that I acted, I

1589
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 8: treated her mom, the way we treat each other is

1590
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 8: going to literally have an effect on her because it

1591
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 8: is a direct representation of what she sees every single So.

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01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 4: Legacy is constant.

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01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 8: Anika talks about it almost almost to a fault because

1594
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 8: you know her own like how she grew up her

1595
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 8: parents right, and we want Vitoya's life to be easier

1596
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 8: than what we had, and we want Victoria to make

1597
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 8: her children's lives easier than what we made for her.

1598
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: So I want to touch on that of what that

1599
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: looks like.

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01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, a father to a daughter, because I only know

1601
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: from a father to a son, and sometimes I'll say

1602
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 2: the kay, like you do realize how you behave is

1603
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 2: how the kids are going to view women.

1604
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: So their ideas of what women are supposed to be

1605
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 1: coming from you.

1606
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: Hearing you say that from a father to a daughter,

1607
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: I could see how like that's a lot of pressure

1608
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: because you're hoping that your daughter at some point gets

1609
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 2: in front of a man or deals with the type

1610
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: of men and she understands what.

1611
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: The type of protection looks like and what love looks like.

1612
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1613
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: And it's different for boys because I can hit my

1614
01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: boys in the chest and be like, man, you can't

1615
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: do that with your Yeah, yeah, I want to.

1616
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: I want to ask you after I ask you some question.

1617
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 4: There was a quote on Instagram.

1618
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I want to make this too long, but

1619
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 8: there was a quote, but there was a videos on

1620
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 8: Instagram and it was the the joy of the daughter

1621
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 8: or the future of the daughter. Her happiness is a

1622
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 8: direct result of how her mom is, like how her

1623
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 8: mom is, her mom's happiness. And I think we had

1624
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 8: a conversation about this.

1625
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 12: While I.

1626
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 8: Want to make sure that I'm not making my wife miserable,

1627
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 8: so my daughter doesn't become miserable, you know what I'm saying.

1628
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 4: It's a crazy concept to have, But.

1629
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 8: Victoria's Victoria's direct influence from women is her mom.

1630
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: It's not a crazy concept. It's the truth.

1631
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: I said the same thing, right with single moms who

1632
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: raised boys, who end up raising the type of boys

1633
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: that the fun boys are, the same men that they hate.

1634
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,520
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. A dude has a responsibility.

1635
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: You have a daughter, Your daughter is going to end

1636
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: up dating the same type of dude you are, because

1637
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: that's all she sees is a man. If you a

1638
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: fuck boy, your daughter's gonna end up with a fuck

1639
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: boy unless she has a mentally strong mom who points

1640
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 2: out the fact that that's not how all men behave.

1641
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 2: But then even in that, you're her father, her mom

1642
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: saying anything, you're still her father. So it's interesting to

1643
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: me because now I'm thinking about the type of women

1644
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: my boys will bring home. I hope they have the

1645
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: type of father in their life that's going to show

1646
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 2: them what it means to be in a relation, you

1647
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, in a relationship.

1648
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 1: We talk about this with our.

1649
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 3: Sons, right, and I'm like, hey, have mothers who take

1650
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 3: care of them. So it's just interesting to.

1651
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: Hear a father's perspective your daughters like that. We know

1652
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: we've talked about that.

1653
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 2: I want we should do a podcast about that, triple

1654
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 2: Can you write that down, because I'm really starting to

1655
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: see a big thing with now. I see why daddy

1656
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 2: issues matter and people think that it's it's just something

1657
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: that people say, but it's not. It's not like how

1658
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 2: girls see men directly correlates to their father. Same thing

1659
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 2: with sons and their mom.

1660
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 8: I'm here to change the legacy that Triple has for me,

1661
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 8: I think I need to rely on chat GBT to

1662
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 8: generate my own thoughts.

1663
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 3: Coming back to you, Triple trips go round out the

1664
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 3: moment of truth anyway, So.

1665
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: Get them back, Triple go ahead, No chat GBT. This

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01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: is all t r I b B l.

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01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 3: Bbld tvvy BBL TRIBB.

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01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 6: I like that's a hit.

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01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 3: It is.

1670
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 6: Legacy. My moment of truth is.

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01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 5: Lately I've been thinking about even if I don't become

1672
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 5: a parent, there's a lot of uh kids in my

1673
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 5: life that I do have an influence on. I have

1674
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,879
Speaker 5: nieces and nephews, my friends, my close friends have children

1675
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 5: who look up to me.

1676
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: So yeah.

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 5: I try to do my best every day and leave

1678
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 5: the best impression that I can at the people that

1679
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 5: are watching.

1680
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 3: So yeah, because they're always watching them little kids, they're

1681
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 3: always watching. They're always watching. All right, y'all be sure

1682
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,000
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