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Speaker 2: Welcome to Akadappa here, a podcast where your host wakes
Speaker 2: up every morning and rolls a d six to determine
Speaker 2: whether the government wants to exterminate her for being trans,
Speaker 2: autistic or Chinese. This week I am your host, be
Speaker 2: a long. We have rolled the dice. This week is
Speaker 2: autism week, and by autism week, I mean anti autism week.
Speaker 2: The Trump administration or specifically orifica junior promise at the
Speaker 2: beginning is like April roughly that they were going to
Speaker 2: find the cause of autism by the end of the summer.
Speaker 2: And they are claiming that the cause of autism is
Speaker 2: taking tail and all when you're pregnant, and that's not true.
Speaker 2: And to talk about how unbelievably vile and unhinged this
Speaker 2: is is Crystal, who's a unionized abortion care worker who
Speaker 2: is also a clozilla on Blue Sky and a friend
Speaker 2: of the show, done many things. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much, Mea. It's always so wonderful
Speaker 3: to come and talk about horrifying things with you and
Speaker 3: be filled with existential dread together.
Speaker 2: It's so good, And by good, I mean the worst
Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I'm like this is such a great time to be
Speaker 3: a trans, non binary abortion care worker. I just love
Speaker 3: I love like being hated in so many different ways.
Speaker 3: You just like a rich tapestry of hatred towards you.
Speaker 3: It's really great, so good.
Speaker 2: So okay, that's actually kind of where I want to
Speaker 2: start about this is that most of the media coverage
Speaker 2: of this has been purely focusing on the tail and
Speaker 2: al causing autism, well especifically that causing autism. And I
Speaker 2: want to point out because most of the news articles
Speaker 2: that cover this simply do not mention this. They are
Speaker 2: also claiming that taking tailanol if you're pregnant causes ADHD,
Speaker 2: a thing which you think would be noteworthy to point out,
Speaker 2: but has just not. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know why people are reading the transcript. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but they're not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actual I hadn't seen that part.
Speaker 3: Like I was literally just reading and observing like this
Speaker 3: the pregnancy and what that means for you know, pregnant people,
Speaker 3: and I like didn't see any of the ADHD stuff,
Speaker 3: So that was new when you brought that up to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just not being reported on. It's really baffling.
Speaker 2: So I want to before we sort of busy get
Speaker 2: into the wait, hold on, why the fuck are they
Speaker 2: doing this? What is happening here? Because and as Chris
Speaker 2: All going to say, actually toile it all is safe
Speaker 2: for people who are pregnant, It's fine. But I want
Speaker 2: to go over a bit of like what's actually in
Speaker 2: this because it's a really really weird. We're going to
Speaker 2: be getting more into the sort of like into the
Speaker 2: autism angle in another episode next week, but I want
Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about just like the actual
Speaker 2: stuff that was in this announcement where Trump is saying
Speaker 2: that a you shouldn't give towle all to pregnant people
Speaker 2: and also saying like you shouldn't give it to like
Speaker 2: young children, and is like, you know, it's like ranting
Speaker 2: about like mercury aluminum in vaccines, which like this shit
Speaker 2: isn't real, Like there hasn't even been anything that even
Speaker 2: remotely related to mercury vaccines for ages. It also never
Speaker 2: did anything, but this is all weird. Andrew Wakefield special shit.
Speaker 2: He also has this thing where he's talking about like
Speaker 2: how you should separate the MMR vaccines, which is a
Speaker 2: thing that if you have seen the h bomber Guy video,
Speaker 2: you will know the reason that that was an anti
Speaker 2: vax talking point was because Wakefield was selling separate vaccines,
Speaker 2: and so he was trying to convince parents that having
Speaker 2: all three of the vaccines at once to give their
Speaker 2: kids autism. But if he did it separately, it wouldn't
Speaker 2: through scientific things that don't make any sense, even according
Speaker 2: to his own incredibly made up bullshit. Wakefield, by the way,
Speaker 2: is the guy who sort of kicked off the modern
Speaker 2: anti vaccine movements by abusing a bunch of children and
Speaker 2: publishing an incredibly fake study and then getting it retracted
Speaker 2: and then getting his let midical license attracted because it
Speaker 2: was incredibly fake and abused children. So Trump is sort
Speaker 2: of just repeating the stuff that he's like vaguely remembers.
Speaker 2: There's this a whole bunch of this sort of like
Speaker 2: stuffy vaguely remembers like he's he's he goes on a
Speaker 2: random rant about like how Cuba doesn't have thailot all,
Speaker 2: so they don't have autism, and that homage people and
Speaker 2: this is the one that goes around laws like, oh,
Speaker 2: people don't have autism because they don't take drugs, and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh my god. I also just I want
Speaker 2: to read a quote from RFK Junior about this, which,
Speaker 2: again and I want to point this out, the actual
Speaker 2: point of this thing is announcing that the FDA is
Speaker 2: not going to recommend that you take a set of
Speaker 2: metaphine or tailand all if you're pregnant. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: read this, and I'm gonna ask if you can figure
Speaker 2: out what the link between this and thailo All is.
Speaker 2: This is from RFK Junior quote. President Trump believes that
Speaker 2: we should be listening to these mothers instead of gas
Speaker 2: lighting and marginalizing them, marginalizing them like prior administrations. Some
Speaker 2: of our friends like to say, we should believe all women.
Speaker 2: Some of these same people have been silencing and demonizing
Speaker 2: these mothers for three decades because research onto potent link
Speaker 2: between autism and vaccines has been suppressed in the past.
Speaker 3: So is this basically talking about kind of like the
Speaker 3: celebrity anti vax people and like the grifters.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, it's like I can't believe that. Oh,
Speaker 2: I mean I can believe, but like a the fact
Speaker 2: that RFK Junior noted repeatedly accused of sexual assault, and
Speaker 2: whose response when asked to about it was quote, I
Speaker 2: have a lot of skeletons in my closet, is doing
Speaker 2: believe all women? But about vaccines causing autism?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's only just like a talking point
Speaker 3: that they can use in their favor, he is, it's
Speaker 3: never actually about you know it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh god? And I like that, like this is just
Speaker 2: like the average thing in this speech that isn't barely
Speaker 2: even getting use coverage.
Speaker 3: I mean there's also what Trump said as well, which
Speaker 3: oh yeah, because I've seen a lot of that too,
Speaker 3: And it's like between what Trump said and what RFK
Speaker 3: Junior said, it's like what where do you even like
Speaker 3: where does the media focus? Like, how do you explain
Speaker 3: this to the American audience?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. And then they also brought in
Speaker 2: Marty mcerray, who's the commissioner of the FDA, who has
Speaker 2: a giant rants about how, like I learned in medical school,
Speaker 2: just treat fevers, low grade fevers with the seed of metaphine.
Speaker 2: Why what are we doing? A STUDI out of Hopkins
Speaker 2: actually showed treating a fever can prolong the duration of
Speaker 2: illness in a young child. Maybe that's because fever is
Speaker 2: a body's natural way of ridding an infection.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's absolutely not true.
Speaker 3: I mean there's like we know that like fevers are
Speaker 3: dangerous for young children and pregnant people.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just total made up bullshit, Like it's
Speaker 2: just eugenics, right, Like they're they're like, oh, no, you
Speaker 2: shouldn't actually do anything to treat the illnesses because if
Speaker 2: the child is strong, then like they'll go through it
Speaker 2: naturally and they'll become stronger. And it's like, no, that's eugenics. Yeah.
Speaker 3: This goes for the pregnancy of it all too, because
Speaker 3: it's about being able to suffer and enduring. And it's
Speaker 3: the same case, the same kind of like puritanical survival
Speaker 3: of the fittest eugenic shit, whether you're talking about pregnancy
Speaker 3: or you're talking about like literally young children who have fevers,
Speaker 3: same same like approach.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This also links directly back to what they're trying
Speaker 2: to do here, right, because the thing that they're trying
Speaker 2: to do is get rid of autistic people. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: they don't want there to be children born with autism. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and in order to do this, they are willing to
Speaker 2: not take vaccines, they are willing to well, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess I guess I should say not
Speaker 2: letting pregnant people take TYL and all is really truly
Speaker 2: the most some of you must die. But that's sacrifice
Speaker 2: I'm willing to make thing that I've ever seen. But
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's absolutely hideous there. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: these people, they don't want autistic kids to be born,
Speaker 2: you know. And that's also just straight up part of
Speaker 2: the eugenics thing that the project that they're doing. Right
Speaker 2: there's on the one hand, the sort of pure survival
Speaker 2: of the fittest, fuck them kids, let them just die
Speaker 2: of fevers, and then on the other hand there's the
Speaker 2: just active like, oh, we're just gonna do all this
Speaker 2: stuff that we think will just make it there not
Speaker 2: be autistic kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they definitely care more about their being less
Speaker 3: autistic children than there are about actually, like you know,
Speaker 3: addressing infant mortality. Yeah, and it's definitely it's treating autism
Speaker 3: as in something that can be prevented by the choice
Speaker 3: of the parents, as opposed to it just being something
Speaker 3: that some people are born that way. Also, you know,
Speaker 3: same with being queer and trans and all these things.
Speaker 3: It's this idea that you can like choose it that
Speaker 3: you can, like, if the parents are strong enough and
Speaker 3: they can endure enough pain and they can suffer enough,
Speaker 3: and if they, you know, make the right choices, then
Speaker 3: they can avoid having a child with autism. And it's
Speaker 3: not really that dissimilar than like, oh, what to do
Speaker 3: if you like have a queer child, a trans child.
Speaker 3: It's this idea that like that is something that can
Speaker 3: be controlled and eliminated, which is eugenics, which is you know,
Speaker 3: as you've been saying, so definitely.
Speaker 2: Uh, do you know what isn't eugenics?
Speaker 4: The products and services? I would really hope, so fucking hope.
Speaker 2: I really I don't know. I cannot. I don't know
Speaker 2: what these ads are going to be if they are eugenics,
Speaker 2: let us know at I write okay on Twitter in
Speaker 2: blue sky Actually I don't know if you still on Twitter,
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but on their in ages, woo,
Speaker 2: these ads. We are back. So let's talk about specifically
Speaker 2: the don't use Thailand all of it all. Can you
Speaker 2: talk a bit about just like the importance of thailand
Speaker 2: all and pain management for pregnant people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've bet like there's definitely probably people out
Speaker 3: there who are like, why tail and all? Why did
Speaker 3: they choose this? Like where did this come from? Is
Speaker 3: it because Trump can't say a sentimenaphin? You know a
Speaker 3: lot of people have been you know, speculating, And first off,
Speaker 3: I do want to say that autism predates tile and all,
Speaker 3: like oh, like thilan all like came to be in
Speaker 3: like the nineteen fifties, and you know, autism existed before
Speaker 3: that and has probably already always been around to some degree,
Speaker 3: which we don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's it's a very complex and we're still you know,
Speaker 3: there's been so much stigma around it for so long
Speaker 3: that it's difficult to talk about. But thilanol is basically
Speaker 3: one of the only pain medications that pregnant people can take,
Speaker 3: and that's why it's til and all. I think that
Speaker 3: that is the way of looking at this, where it's like,
Speaker 3: why did they single out this medication? And it's because
Speaker 3: it's the only pain medication that a pregnant person can take,
Speaker 3: because as we know, there's other pain medications. Like the
Speaker 3: end SAIDs like hyberprofen and nepoxen, and then of course
Speaker 3: there's opioids, which is obviously not good during pregnancy the course,
Speaker 3: talk to your doctor, because I'm not a doctor. You
Speaker 3: should always get this from doctors. Talk to your obgian
Speaker 3: but en sets are typically not recommended in the last
Speaker 3: three months of pregnancy because they can cause issues with
Speaker 3: amniotic fluid and baby's kidneys and things like that. So
Speaker 3: it is typically recommended that you avoid iyboprofen and other
Speaker 3: things like that, and you take tile and all to
Speaker 3: reduce fevers, to reduce pain. Obviously, there is a lot
Speaker 3: to be sick with when you're pregnant.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of source of pain.
Speaker 3: You know, Fever and headaches are definitely something that pregnant
Speaker 3: people experience. But pretty much like because it is the
Speaker 3: only pain medication that pregnant people can take, then it's
Speaker 3: really easy to be like, oh, well, what are they taking?
Speaker 3: This is what they're taking, and then you can go
Speaker 3: from there. And this is very much coming from It
Speaker 3: feels so weird saying this coming from like a biblical
Speaker 3: sense of like Eve in the Apple, Eve is the
Speaker 3: original sinner. I think, I don't know, like you know,
Speaker 3: Eve did the bad thing. So Eve needs to suffer
Speaker 3: during pregnancy. All women need to suffer during pregnancy. That
Speaker 3: is a very much like a very biblical take on this,
Speaker 3: And I think that is kind of why why tile
Speaker 3: and all, because it's what pregnant people are taking to
Speaker 3: reduce pain and to address views.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to read a quote from the
Speaker 2: Commissioner of the FDA that he gave while he was
Speaker 2: speaking about this, where he says, quote, when my wife
Speaker 2: was pregnant and delivered our son a few months ago,
Speaker 2: they pushed her to take a seat of metapine for
Speaker 2: a low grade fever. She said no, And then they
Speaker 2: looked at me and I said, absolutely no. I'm also
Speaker 2: here to announce good news today. The FDA is filing
Speaker 2: a Federal registered notice to change the label on an
Speaker 2: exciting treatment called prescription lokovin so it can be available
Speaker 2: the children with autism. So you could see, like how
Speaker 2: casually is do like just doing this like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no, no no. Yeah, Like I'm really proud of my wife
Speaker 2: for saying no to taking tyle lenol for a fever,
Speaker 2: and like they also look look at this and it's
Speaker 2: like the like, oh, they pushed her to take a
Speaker 2: seat of medaphine for a low grade fever. It's like
Speaker 2: that's an extremely normal thing for a doctor to say
Speaker 2: to you, Like, take tailanol for your fever is like
Speaker 2: the least like medically invasive thing a doctor can possibly recommend.
Speaker 2: Like what are we doing here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really basic medicine. And also like there's like
Speaker 3: there's a ways to profit off of this too, because
Speaker 3: if you can't take any pain medication when you're pregnant,
Speaker 3: but you can take I think they were recommending something
Speaker 3: like I don't even know it was like something fallic
Speaker 3: acid thingy. They were recommending that you take something which
Speaker 3: obviously now can be like profit off of and sold.
Speaker 3: This is a very capitalist, very grifter approach to medicine
Speaker 3: and healthcare because obviously, always talk to your doctor and
Speaker 3: your obgian about taking any medication when you're pregnant, Like,
Speaker 3: talk to your doctor.
Speaker 4: They're going to be the best source of information.
Speaker 2: So the folic acid thing is a lekoverin, which is
Speaker 2: a medicine for anemia and counteracting the effects of chemotherapy meds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: And then there's specifically like, oh, this will stop your
Speaker 2: children from having autism. Okay, no it won't.
Speaker 4: No, no, no no.
Speaker 3: I mean like there are there are respected organizations speaking
Speaker 3: up right now kind of like about like the facts,
Speaker 3: about the studies, about what's real. So there's like Physicians
Speaker 3: for Reproductive Health, you know, saying like there's decades of
Speaker 3: study of studies of thailand all being safe to take
Speaker 3: during pregnancy. There's ACOG, which is a big professional membership
Speaker 3: organization of like tens of thousands of obgyns saying like, hey,
Speaker 3: thailand all is safe during pregnancy. So there's been decades
Speaker 3: of studies on tailanol use and pregnancy. Some of the
Speaker 3: studies published in the Journal of the American Medical Association
Speaker 3: that says how safe it is is, so like it
Speaker 3: is it is, it is safe. It is absolutely one
Speaker 3: hundred percent safe to take to treat pain and fever
Speaker 3: during pregnancy. So, like you know, in terms of like
Speaker 3: who can you look to, like, definitely look at the
Speaker 3: obgyns right now and what they're saying and the physicians
Speaker 3: and these respective organizations, because they're going to tell you
Speaker 3: the truth. But the problem is that that this information
Speaker 3: is not reaching the public.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and instead, yeah, they're just getting the President of
Speaker 2: the United States and all of these just weird conspiracy
Speaker 2: people that they've installed as the people running the US
Speaker 2: medical establishment, being like, oh no, actually this is really
Speaker 2: bad for you for reasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all very vague, it's not really backed by
Speaker 3: like decades of medical research. And like also too, there's
Speaker 3: so many people who have not taken any medication during
Speaker 3: pregnancy and they still have children who are autistic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like it's just absolutely ridiculous. And like
Speaker 2: any way you look at the number, like in terms
Speaker 2: of you know, if you look at like the increasing
Speaker 2: race of tile and all usage by pregnant people versus
Speaker 2: like autistic kids, it's not like the timely usage goes
Speaker 2: up way higher and then the artistic numbers don't change
Speaker 2: that much relative to it. It's just like it's all
Speaker 2: just the nonsense.
Speaker 3: Well, so there is the eugenics of it all, and
Speaker 3: there's also the aspect that we've been dealing with with
Speaker 3: the rampant abortion bands and the criminalization of pregnancy that
Speaker 3: we've been seeing over honestly over the decades. It's about
Speaker 3: controlling bodies. And like this is also with trans healthcare too,
Speaker 3: Like it it's about it's about eugenics, about kind of
Speaker 3: this necropolitics of choosing who lives and dies and being
Speaker 3: able to choose everything about a person's body, even how
Speaker 3: they're just stated, you know, like oh, the parents shouldn't
Speaker 3: take this and they shouldn't do this, And then it
Speaker 3: opens up when it comes to control and surveillance and
Speaker 3: criminalization of a pregnant person that can go in so
Speaker 3: many different directions because you know they're telling you not
Speaker 3: to take tile, and al if they just randomly chose tilanol,
Speaker 3: they can randomly choose anything. They could talk about epidurals,
Speaker 3: because there is like this idea that you should suffer
Speaker 3: and that you shouldn't treat fever and that you should
Speaker 3: experience pain during pregnancy, just like that one quote that
Speaker 3: you shared about his wife. So they're going to like
Speaker 3: start targeting other things. And also there's already so much
Speaker 3: criticism and control and judgment and stigma over things like
Speaker 3: if you're working while you're pregnant, if you're drinking coffee
Speaker 3: while you're pregnant, if you're eating certain things. There's already
Speaker 3: so much like policing over pregnant bodies without even touching
Speaker 3: on abortion. But like they're also trying to control how
Speaker 3: you even dispose of pregnancies, like if you're looking at
Speaker 3: the states that are requiring you to call the police
Speaker 3: if you have a miscarriage, so that it's like they
Speaker 3: want to control how you miscarry, how you have an abortion.
Speaker 3: Worth noting too, because this is absolutely connected to abortion
Speaker 3: and abortion pills. If the government is coming out and
Speaker 3: saying that taile and all causes autism and it's not
Speaker 3: safe to take while you're pregnant or to use to
Speaker 3: treat a fever in young children, then they can also
Speaker 3: say things like the abortion pill is not safe because
Speaker 3: they've been trying to get the FDA to take away
Speaker 3: the approval of Mithipristoe saying that it's dangerous. And you know,
Speaker 3: if they're going to say that tail and all is
Speaker 3: dangerous and causes autism, then it's like it's going to
Speaker 3: be so easy for them to say that the abortion
Speaker 3: pill is deadly as well.
Speaker 2: And they've already been doing this with vaccines in terms
Speaker 2: of like like they've they've been restricting access to vaccines
Speaker 2: to people without pre existing conditions, which admittedly is a
Speaker 2: lot of people. Like the list of pre existing conditions
Speaker 2: is really long and you should just try to get
Speaker 2: them anyways. But like, yeah, like this isn't a hypothetical.
Speaker 2: They are already doing this with vaccines, a thing that
Speaker 2: we do all need in order to not get horribly
Speaker 2: sick and die from plagues, a thing which there are
Speaker 2: many of right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that this definitely goes to show
Speaker 3: how topics like abortion and early pregnancy loss and miscarriage
Speaker 3: and abortions later in pregnancy, like the way they've been
Speaker 3: talking about this has spread to all aspects of pregnancy,
Speaker 3: and it's spreading to other areas too, Like so when
Speaker 3: we haven't addressed the bands and the stigma and the criminalization,
Speaker 3: it's been spreading. It's spread to vaccines, it's spreading to
Speaker 3: trans healthcare. It's just it's just I feel like I've
Speaker 3: been watching this black hole just grow and grow and
Speaker 3: grow over the years and just take away our access
Speaker 3: to these to these really basic medical things. And yeah,
Speaker 3: like I just see, like we let it happen with
Speaker 3: abortion and then now all of a sudden, now we
Speaker 3: can't take tail and all during pregnancy because it caused autism. Yep,
Speaker 3: there's so much to say about the eugenics and autism
Speaker 3: aspect of this.
Speaker 4: So much to say more than like we can say
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: Don't worry. There will be another episode of this show
Speaker 2: about yeah, with some doctors next week probably.
Speaker 3: It's like focusing right now on like pregnancy and policing
Speaker 3: pregnant bodies and tailanol and pain management and what's real
Speaker 3: the fact that TAILANL is safe to take while pregnant
Speaker 3: and doesn't cause autism.
Speaker 4: You know, it's really dwelling on that.
Speaker 3: But like there is a lot to say, There's a
Speaker 3: lot to say about the implications of this, where like
Speaker 3: where this came from in our society and where it's going.
Speaker 4: And it's all really horrifying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's exceptionally bleak. But I do think
Speaker 2: and this is I think a theme we're going to
Speaker 2: be returning to a lot in the coming days and weeks.
Speaker 2: But like, the only silver lining for this is that
Speaker 2: this ship is not popular. It's just not People hate it.
Speaker 2: People hate the administration. They have been hating the station.
Speaker 2: Every day it goes by, they hate it more, you know,
Speaker 2: And this is part of the control strategy, right, part
Speaker 2: of the reason why they're making these incredibly draconian moves
Speaker 2: into like authoritarian moves into the domestic spheres, because it's
Speaker 2: a way of suppressing descent, and they have to do that.
Speaker 2: They have to suppress dessense, and they have to take
Speaker 2: things from us, and they have to continue to try
Speaker 2: to just beat everyone into submission because they can't do
Speaker 2: it through actual persuasion. What they have is the violence
Speaker 2: of the state, and they're going to try to keep
Speaker 2: doing that. But the violence of the state only functions
Speaker 2: insofar as people allow it to function, you know, And
Speaker 2: this has always been sort of the secret of the
Speaker 2: United States, which is that like a bunch of the
Speaker 2: things that they're doing, or they're attacked as that cracked
Speaker 2: downs that they're attempting to do, are effectively unenforceable because
Speaker 2: people simply refuse to cooperate with them. And you know,
Speaker 2: this is a field well, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: until they just straight up ban tile and all. This
Speaker 2: is a thing where I guess we're mostly just trying
Speaker 2: to spread information. But like the things that they do
Speaker 2: can be opposed, and when people oppose them on mass,
Speaker 2: they lose. And I don't know, I want to give
Speaker 2: people a little tiny bit of hope.
Speaker 4: You want to be positive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the deterioration of public health in the United
Speaker 3: States is absolutely state violence.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Focusing on thaile andol and stigmatizing autism and people with
Speaker 3: autism is like distracting from so many things that are
Speaker 3: actual public health emergencies. So when they're talking about pregnancy,
Speaker 3: they're talking about tilenel and autism. There are so much
Speaker 3: more severe things going on in the United States right
Speaker 3: now when it comes to both the health of pregnant
Speaker 3: people and infants. So there's the Black maternal mortality crisis,
Speaker 3: which is so severe in so many states that is
Speaker 3: just constantly, like abortion bands have made that even worse.
Speaker 3: There's terrible infant mortality rates rising in states. So for example,
Speaker 3: Mississippi declared infant dense and emergency because they halted that
Speaker 3: CDC information data collection program. So Mississippi declared a public
Speaker 3: health emergency from rising informortality. And there's also, I mean,
Speaker 3: I believe that the abortion bands are a medical crisis
Speaker 3: as well. And there's also huge obgyn deserts in this country,
Speaker 3: Like we're seeing like the loss of obgyn health providers
Speaker 3: where people can't access a obgyn for miles and miles
Speaker 3: and miles and there's just entirely a lack of providers.
Speaker 3: These are all very very serious public health emergencies, and
Speaker 3: yet they're talking about autism.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and also as such as they're talking about
Speaker 2: is they're making all of these crises worse, like specifically
Speaker 2: the opgyn crisis. It's like, yeah, I don't know, they've
Speaker 2: been kicking a bunch of people off of their access
Speaker 2: to of their access to government insurance, and like what
Speaker 2: does that do? Oh wait, hold on, It just absolutely
Speaker 2: and nice relates the income and revenue base of a
Speaker 2: bunch of hospitals that already like weren't making much money
Speaker 2: in rural areas, and so more of them close because
Speaker 2: they lease their revenue sources, and suddenly all of these
Speaker 2: crises just continue to get worse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have like this stigmatization of autism, parents
Speaker 3: of autistic children, trans people, trans children, when like they're
Speaker 3: focusing on this and they're vilifying and dog piling and
Speaker 3: stigmatizing and and all of these things these groups. While
Speaker 3: there is this snowballing of crises, the damage already just
Speaker 3: from Roe v. Wade being overturned in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: Like it's like been three years and there's just been
Speaker 3: this like cascading just ever increasing the public health disasters
Speaker 3: from it, and yet we're we're stigmatizing vulnerable people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the ways that we've been talking about, right.
Speaker 2: Their ideology is about inflicting suffering on vulnerable people because
Speaker 2: they think that it's good, and that's a thing that's
Speaker 2: you know, i mean just obviously incompatible with public health
Speaker 2: as a concept, which is you know, part of why
Speaker 2: they're sort of dismantling it. Part of it is that
Speaker 2: these people are all like selling their own weird anti
Speaker 2: vaccine grift stuff that they've been selling for years and
Speaker 2: years and years and years, and all of this has
Speaker 2: just sort of come together into just the sort of
Speaker 2: abyss where all everything that was the public health infrastructure
Speaker 2: in this country, which was insufficient to begin with, i'd
Speaker 2: just been disappearing more and more into.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the erosion of our public health. You know, this
Speaker 3: isn't like new, these decades of you know, this coming
Speaker 3: into being where we are right now. But it's been
Speaker 3: really horrible to watch as a healthcare worker, as somebody
Speaker 3: who cares about just like everyone being able to get
Speaker 3: like evidence based care, have access to medical providers, and
Speaker 3: then also the ability to do whatever kind of health
Speaker 3: care they need to be able to do on their
Speaker 3: own as well, to just have this solid medical information.
Speaker 3: And then also like there's the public education of it
Speaker 3: all too, because already, like there's this attack on public education,
Speaker 3: which autistic children need a lot of support in order
Speaker 3: to thrive, and schools are you know, they could be
Speaker 3: equipped to do that where I've seen wonderful programs and
Speaker 3: wonderful education services that really set people up for success.
Speaker 3: And this goes for like everyone obviously, like any child
Speaker 3: is going to benefit from this, but it just it
Speaker 3: makes everything so much worse, Like parents and families and
Speaker 3: just autistic people just don't get enough support period, just
Speaker 3: like trans people as well. And then we're all just
Speaker 3: being thrown under the bus for the capitalist class and
Speaker 3: the elites so they can continue to like you know,
Speaker 3: hide their pedophilia rings and like the whole just the
Speaker 3: fact that they're all like because like what you said
Speaker 3: earlier about rfay, Yeah, these are all a bunch of
Speaker 3: child molesters telling us that we're not strong or brave
Speaker 3: enough to endure pain that we can easily treat with
Speaker 3: the medical technology that we have ye, And I feel
Speaker 3: like I normally, I feel like I used to not
Speaker 3: talk like this. I used to not be like child
Speaker 3: molesters in the government, Like I kind of feel like,
Speaker 3: but I'm like, this is literally.
Speaker 4: Where we are right now somehow.
Speaker 3: So here I am, like, you know, talking about tile
Speaker 3: and all being safe for pregnant people, tail and all
Speaker 3: not causing autism, and then talking about the fact that
Speaker 3: our government is wrung run by a bunch of pedophiles.
Speaker 3: Not quite where I expected to be if you had
Speaker 3: talked to me like eight years ago.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's really something.
Speaker 4: It's it's really wild to be talking about this right now.
Speaker 3: And like we knew this was coming too, Like there's
Speaker 3: been months of whispers where it's like, oh, yeah, they're
Speaker 3: going to say til and all causes autism. So like this,
Speaker 3: I knew this was coming somehow. I don't even know how.
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, I feel like it's all very transparent,
Speaker 3: like there's leagues and there's whatever. But I like, I
Speaker 3: knew this was coming for months, and yet here we are.
Speaker 2: Here we are, yeah, And I don't know, I think
Speaker 2: that's as good for a place to end, unless you
Speaker 2: have anything else you want to make sure you get.
Speaker 3: In I just want to say again that it's safe
Speaker 3: to take tile and all during pregnancy and it doesn't
Speaker 3: cause autism.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and tell everyone.
Speaker 3: You know that and share good resources like ACOG acog
Speaker 3: Physicians for Reproductive Health PRH I believe is their initials acronym.
Speaker 2: We will put links to stuff in the description of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also ask your doctor about medication that you
Speaker 3: should take, whether you're pregnant or not. You know, it's
Speaker 3: cool to ask your doctor stuff, like, just ask them questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that is what they are there for.
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