1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to Akadappa here, a podcast where your host wakes 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: up every morning and rolls a d six to determine 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: whether the government wants to exterminate her for being trans, 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: autistic or Chinese. This week I am your host, be 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: a long. We have rolled the dice. This week is 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: autism week, and by autism week, I mean anti autism week. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: The Trump administration or specifically orifica junior promise at the 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: beginning is like April roughly that they were going to 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: find the cause of autism by the end of the summer. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: And they are claiming that the cause of autism is 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: taking tail and all when you're pregnant, and that's not true. 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: And to talk about how unbelievably vile and unhinged this 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: is is Crystal, who's a unionized abortion care worker who 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: is also a clozilla on Blue Sky and a friend 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: of the show, done many things. Welcome to the show. 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much, Mea. It's always so wonderful 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: to come and talk about horrifying things with you and 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: be filled with existential dread together. 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: It's so good, And by good, I mean the worst 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen. 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: I'm like this is such a great time to be 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: a trans, non binary abortion care worker. I just love 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: I love like being hated in so many different ways. 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: You just like a rich tapestry of hatred towards you. 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: It's really great, so good. 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: So okay, that's actually kind of where I want to 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: start about this is that most of the media coverage 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: of this has been purely focusing on the tail and 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: al causing autism, well especifically that causing autism. And I 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: want to point out because most of the news articles 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: that cover this simply do not mention this. They are 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: also claiming that taking tailanol if you're pregnant causes ADHD, 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: a thing which you think would be noteworthy to point out, 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: but has just not. Yeah, I don't know. I don't 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: know why people are reading the transcript. I don't know why, 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: but they're not. 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I actual I hadn't seen that part. 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: Like I was literally just reading and observing like this 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: the pregnancy and what that means for you know, pregnant people, 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: and I like didn't see any of the ADHD stuff, 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: So that was new when you brought that up to me. 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just not being reported on. It's really baffling. 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: So I want to before we sort of busy get 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: into the wait, hold on, why the fuck are they 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: doing this? What is happening here? Because and as Chris 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: All going to say, actually toile it all is safe 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 2: for people who are pregnant, It's fine. But I want 49 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: to go over a bit of like what's actually in 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: this because it's a really really weird. We're going to 51 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: be getting more into the sort of like into the 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: autism angle in another episode next week, but I want 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about just like the actual 54 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: stuff that was in this announcement where Trump is saying 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: that a you shouldn't give towle all to pregnant people 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: and also saying like you shouldn't give it to like 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: young children, and is like, you know, it's like ranting 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: about like mercury aluminum in vaccines, which like this shit 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: isn't real, Like there hasn't even been anything that even 60 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: remotely related to mercury vaccines for ages. It also never 61 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: did anything, but this is all weird. Andrew Wakefield special shit. 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: He also has this thing where he's talking about like 63 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: how you should separate the MMR vaccines, which is a 64 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: thing that if you have seen the h bomber Guy video, 65 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: you will know the reason that that was an anti 66 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: vax talking point was because Wakefield was selling separate vaccines, 67 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: and so he was trying to convince parents that having 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: all three of the vaccines at once to give their 69 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: kids autism. But if he did it separately, it wouldn't 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: through scientific things that don't make any sense, even according 71 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: to his own incredibly made up bullshit. Wakefield, by the way, 72 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: is the guy who sort of kicked off the modern 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: anti vaccine movements by abusing a bunch of children and 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: publishing an incredibly fake study and then getting it retracted 75 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: and then getting his let midical license attracted because it 76 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: was incredibly fake and abused children. So Trump is sort 77 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: of just repeating the stuff that he's like vaguely remembers. 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: There's this a whole bunch of this sort of like 79 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: stuffy vaguely remembers like he's he's he goes on a 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: random rant about like how Cuba doesn't have thailot all, 81 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: so they don't have autism, and that homage people and 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: this is the one that goes around laws like, oh, 83 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: people don't have autism because they don't take drugs, and 84 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: it's like, oh my god. I also just I want 85 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: to read a quote from RFK Junior about this, which, 86 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: again and I want to point this out, the actual 87 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: point of this thing is announcing that the FDA is 88 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: not going to recommend that you take a set of 89 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 2: metaphine or tailand all if you're pregnant. I'm just gonna 90 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: read this, and I'm gonna ask if you can figure 91 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: out what the link between this and thailo All is. 92 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: This is from RFK Junior quote. President Trump believes that 93 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: we should be listening to these mothers instead of gas 94 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: lighting and marginalizing them, marginalizing them like prior administrations. Some 95 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: of our friends like to say, we should believe all women. 96 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: Some of these same people have been silencing and demonizing 97 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: these mothers for three decades because research onto potent link 98 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: between autism and vaccines has been suppressed in the past. 99 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: So is this basically talking about kind of like the 100 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: celebrity anti vax people and like the grifters. 101 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, it's like I can't believe that. Oh, 102 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: I mean I can believe, but like a the fact 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: that RFK Junior noted repeatedly accused of sexual assault, and 104 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: whose response when asked to about it was quote, I 105 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: have a lot of skeletons in my closet, is doing 106 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: believe all women? But about vaccines causing autism? 107 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's only just like a talking point 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: that they can use in their favor, he is, it's 109 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: never actually about you know it? 110 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 111 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: Oh god? And I like that, like this is just 112 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: like the average thing in this speech that isn't barely 113 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: even getting use coverage. 114 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: I mean there's also what Trump said as well, which 115 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: oh yeah, because I've seen a lot of that too, 116 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: And it's like between what Trump said and what RFK 117 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 3: Junior said, it's like what where do you even like 118 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: where does the media focus? Like, how do you explain 119 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 3: this to the American audience? 120 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. And then they also brought in 121 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: Marty mcerray, who's the commissioner of the FDA, who has 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: a giant rants about how, like I learned in medical school, 123 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: just treat fevers, low grade fevers with the seed of metaphine. 124 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: Why what are we doing? A STUDI out of Hopkins 125 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: actually showed treating a fever can prolong the duration of 126 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: illness in a young child. Maybe that's because fever is 127 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: a body's natural way of ridding an infection. 128 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's absolutely not true. 129 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean there's like we know that like fevers are 130 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: dangerous for young children and pregnant people. 131 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: It's yeah, I don't, I don't know. 132 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: It's just it's just total made up bullshit, Like it's 133 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: just eugenics, right, Like they're they're like, oh, no, you 134 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: shouldn't actually do anything to treat the illnesses because if 135 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: the child is strong, then like they'll go through it 136 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: naturally and they'll become stronger. And it's like, no, that's eugenics. Yeah. 137 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: This goes for the pregnancy of it all too, because 138 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: it's about being able to suffer and enduring. And it's 139 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: the same case, the same kind of like puritanical survival 140 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: of the fittest eugenic shit, whether you're talking about pregnancy 141 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: or you're talking about like literally young children who have fevers, 142 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: same same like approach. 143 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. This also links directly back to what they're trying 144 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: to do here, right, because the thing that they're trying 145 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: to do is get rid of autistic people. Yeah, like 146 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: they don't want there to be children born with autism. Yeah, 147 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: and in order to do this, they are willing to 148 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: not take vaccines, they are willing to well, I mean, 149 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: I guess, I guess I guess I should say not 150 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: letting pregnant people take TYL and all is really truly 151 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: the most some of you must die. But that's sacrifice 152 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm willing to make thing that I've ever seen. But 153 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's absolutely hideous there. It's like, yeah, 154 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: these people, they don't want autistic kids to be born, 155 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: you know. And that's also just straight up part of 156 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: the eugenics thing that the project that they're doing. Right 157 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: there's on the one hand, the sort of pure survival 158 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: of the fittest, fuck them kids, let them just die 159 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: of fevers, and then on the other hand there's the 160 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: just active like, oh, we're just gonna do all this 161 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: stuff that we think will just make it there not 162 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: be autistic kids. 163 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they definitely care more about their being less 164 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: autistic children than there are about actually, like you know, 165 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: addressing infant mortality. Yeah, and it's definitely it's treating autism 166 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: as in something that can be prevented by the choice 167 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: of the parents, as opposed to it just being something 168 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: that some people are born that way. Also, you know, 169 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: same with being queer and trans and all these things. 170 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: It's this idea that you can like choose it that 171 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 3: you can, like, if the parents are strong enough and 172 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: they can endure enough pain and they can suffer enough, 173 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: and if they, you know, make the right choices, then 174 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 3: they can avoid having a child with autism. And it's 175 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: not really that dissimilar than like, oh, what to do 176 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: if you like have a queer child, a trans child. 177 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: It's this idea that like that is something that can 178 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: be controlled and eliminated, which is eugenics, which is you know, 179 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: as you've been saying, so definitely. 180 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: Uh, do you know what isn't eugenics? 181 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: The products and services? I would really hope, so fucking hope. 182 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: I really I don't know. I cannot. I don't know 183 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 2: what these ads are going to be if they are eugenics, 184 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: let us know at I write okay on Twitter in 185 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: blue sky Actually I don't know if you still on Twitter, 186 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but on their in ages, woo, 187 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: these ads. We are back. So let's talk about specifically 188 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: the don't use Thailand all of it all. Can you 189 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: talk a bit about just like the importance of thailand 190 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: all and pain management for pregnant people. 191 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've bet like there's definitely probably people out 192 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: there who are like, why tail and all? Why did 193 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: they choose this? Like where did this come from? Is 194 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: it because Trump can't say a sentimenaphin? You know a 195 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: lot of people have been you know, speculating, And first off, 196 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 3: I do want to say that autism predates tile and all, 197 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: like oh, like thilan all like came to be in 198 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: like the nineteen fifties, and you know, autism existed before 199 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 3: that and has probably already always been around to some degree, 200 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: which we don't know. 201 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. 202 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: It's it's a very complex and we're still you know, 203 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: there's been so much stigma around it for so long 204 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: that it's difficult to talk about. But thilanol is basically 205 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: one of the only pain medications that pregnant people can take, 206 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: and that's why it's til and all. I think that 207 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: that is the way of looking at this, where it's like, 208 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 3: why did they single out this medication? And it's because 209 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: it's the only pain medication that a pregnant person can take, 210 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: because as we know, there's other pain medications. Like the 211 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: end SAIDs like hyberprofen and nepoxen, and then of course 212 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: there's opioids, which is obviously not good during pregnancy the course, 213 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: talk to your doctor, because I'm not a doctor. You 214 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 3: should always get this from doctors. Talk to your obgian 215 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: but en sets are typically not recommended in the last 216 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: three months of pregnancy because they can cause issues with 217 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: amniotic fluid and baby's kidneys and things like that. So 218 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 3: it is typically recommended that you avoid iyboprofen and other 219 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: things like that, and you take tile and all to 220 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: reduce fevers, to reduce pain. Obviously, there is a lot 221 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: to be sick with when you're pregnant. 222 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 4: There's a lot of source of pain. 223 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: You know, Fever and headaches are definitely something that pregnant 224 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: people experience. But pretty much like because it is the 225 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 3: only pain medication that pregnant people can take, then it's 226 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 3: really easy to be like, oh, well, what are they taking? 227 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: This is what they're taking, and then you can go 228 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: from there. And this is very much coming from It 229 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: feels so weird saying this coming from like a biblical 230 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: sense of like Eve in the Apple, Eve is the 231 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: original sinner. I think, I don't know, like you know, 232 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: Eve did the bad thing. So Eve needs to suffer 233 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: during pregnancy. All women need to suffer during pregnancy. That 234 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: is a very much like a very biblical take on this, 235 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: And I think that is kind of why why tile 236 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: and all, because it's what pregnant people are taking to 237 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: reduce pain and to address views. 238 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to read a quote from the 239 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: Commissioner of the FDA that he gave while he was 240 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: speaking about this, where he says, quote, when my wife 241 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: was pregnant and delivered our son a few months ago, 242 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: they pushed her to take a seat of metapine for 243 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: a low grade fever. She said no, And then they 244 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: looked at me and I said, absolutely no. I'm also 245 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: here to announce good news today. The FDA is filing 246 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 2: a Federal registered notice to change the label on an 247 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: exciting treatment called prescription lokovin so it can be available 248 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: the children with autism. So you could see, like how 249 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: casually is do like just doing this like no, no, no, 250 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: no, no no. Yeah, Like I'm really proud of my wife 251 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 2: for saying no to taking tyle lenol for a fever, 252 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: and like they also look look at this and it's 253 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: like the like, oh, they pushed her to take a 254 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: seat of medaphine for a low grade fever. It's like 255 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: that's an extremely normal thing for a doctor to say 256 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: to you, Like, take tailanol for your fever is like 257 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: the least like medically invasive thing a doctor can possibly recommend. 258 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: Like what are we doing here? 259 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really basic medicine. And also like there's like 260 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: there's a ways to profit off of this too, because 261 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: if you can't take any pain medication when you're pregnant, 262 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: but you can take I think they were recommending something 263 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: like I don't even know it was like something fallic 264 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: acid thingy. They were recommending that you take something which 265 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: obviously now can be like profit off of and sold. 266 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: This is a very capitalist, very grifter approach to medicine 267 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: and healthcare because obviously, always talk to your doctor and 268 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: your obgian about taking any medication when you're pregnant, Like, 269 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: talk to your doctor. 270 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 4: They're going to be the best source of information. 271 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: So the folic acid thing is a lekoverin, which is 272 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: a medicine for anemia and counteracting the effects of chemotherapy meds. 273 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't. 274 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: And then there's specifically like, oh, this will stop your 275 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: children from having autism. Okay, no it won't. 276 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: No, no, no no. 277 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: I mean like there are there are respected organizations speaking 278 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: up right now kind of like about like the facts, 279 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: about the studies, about what's real. So there's like Physicians 280 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: for Reproductive Health, you know, saying like there's decades of 281 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: study of studies of thailand all being safe to take 282 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: during pregnancy. There's ACOG, which is a big professional membership 283 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: organization of like tens of thousands of obgyns saying like, hey, 284 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: thailand all is safe during pregnancy. So there's been decades 285 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: of studies on tailanol use and pregnancy. Some of the 286 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: studies published in the Journal of the American Medical Association 287 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: that says how safe it is is, so like it 288 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: is it is, it is safe. It is absolutely one 289 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: hundred percent safe to take to treat pain and fever 290 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: during pregnancy. So, like you know, in terms of like 291 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: who can you look to, like, definitely look at the 292 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: obgyns right now and what they're saying and the physicians 293 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: and these respective organizations, because they're going to tell you 294 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: the truth. But the problem is that that this information 295 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: is not reaching the public. 296 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and instead, yeah, they're just getting the President of 297 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: the United States and all of these just weird conspiracy 298 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: people that they've installed as the people running the US 299 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: medical establishment, being like, oh no, actually this is really 300 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: bad for you for reasons. 301 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all very vague, it's not really backed by 302 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: like decades of medical research. And like also too, there's 303 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: so many people who have not taken any medication during 304 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: pregnancy and they still have children who are autistic. 305 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like it's just absolutely ridiculous. And like 306 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: any way you look at the number, like in terms 307 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: of you know, if you look at like the increasing 308 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: race of tile and all usage by pregnant people versus 309 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: like autistic kids, it's not like the timely usage goes 310 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: up way higher and then the artistic numbers don't change 311 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: that much relative to it. It's just like it's all 312 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: just the nonsense. 313 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: Well, so there is the eugenics of it all, and 314 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: there's also the aspect that we've been dealing with with 315 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: the rampant abortion bands and the criminalization of pregnancy that 316 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: we've been seeing over honestly over the decades. It's about 317 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: controlling bodies. And like this is also with trans healthcare too, 318 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: Like it it's about it's about eugenics, about kind of 319 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: this necropolitics of choosing who lives and dies and being 320 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: able to choose everything about a person's body, even how 321 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: they're just stated, you know, like oh, the parents shouldn't 322 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: take this and they shouldn't do this, And then it 323 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: opens up when it comes to control and surveillance and 324 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: criminalization of a pregnant person that can go in so 325 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: many different directions because you know they're telling you not 326 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: to take tile, and al if they just randomly chose tilanol, 327 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: they can randomly choose anything. They could talk about epidurals, 328 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: because there is like this idea that you should suffer 329 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 3: and that you shouldn't treat fever and that you should 330 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: experience pain during pregnancy, just like that one quote that 331 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: you shared about his wife. So they're going to like 332 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: start targeting other things. And also there's already so much 333 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: criticism and control and judgment and stigma over things like 334 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: if you're working while you're pregnant, if you're drinking coffee 335 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: while you're pregnant, if you're eating certain things. There's already 336 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: so much like policing over pregnant bodies without even touching 337 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: on abortion. But like they're also trying to control how 338 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 3: you even dispose of pregnancies, like if you're looking at 339 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: the states that are requiring you to call the police 340 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 3: if you have a miscarriage, so that it's like they 341 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: want to control how you miscarry, how you have an abortion. 342 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 3: Worth noting too, because this is absolutely connected to abortion 343 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 3: and abortion pills. If the government is coming out and 344 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: saying that taile and all causes autism and it's not 345 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: safe to take while you're pregnant or to use to 346 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 3: treat a fever in young children, then they can also 347 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: say things like the abortion pill is not safe because 348 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: they've been trying to get the FDA to take away 349 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: the approval of Mithipristoe saying that it's dangerous. And you know, 350 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: if they're going to say that tail and all is 351 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: dangerous and causes autism, then it's like it's going to 352 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: be so easy for them to say that the abortion 353 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 3: pill is deadly as well. 354 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: And they've already been doing this with vaccines in terms 355 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: of like like they've they've been restricting access to vaccines 356 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: to people without pre existing conditions, which admittedly is a 357 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: lot of people. Like the list of pre existing conditions 358 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: is really long and you should just try to get 359 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: them anyways. But like, yeah, like this isn't a hypothetical. 360 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: They are already doing this with vaccines, a thing that 361 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: we do all need in order to not get horribly 362 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: sick and die from plagues, a thing which there are 363 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: many of right now. 364 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that this definitely goes to show 365 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 3: how topics like abortion and early pregnancy loss and miscarriage 366 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: and abortions later in pregnancy, like the way they've been 367 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: talking about this has spread to all aspects of pregnancy, 368 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: and it's spreading to other areas too, Like so when 369 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: we haven't addressed the bands and the stigma and the criminalization, 370 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: it's been spreading. It's spread to vaccines, it's spreading to 371 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: trans healthcare. It's just it's just I feel like I've 372 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: been watching this black hole just grow and grow and 373 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: grow over the years and just take away our access 374 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: to these to these really basic medical things. And yeah, 375 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: like I just see, like we let it happen with 376 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: abortion and then now all of a sudden, now we 377 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: can't take tail and all during pregnancy because it caused autism. Yep, 378 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: there's so much to say about the eugenics and autism 379 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: aspect of this. 380 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 4: So much to say more than like we can say 381 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: right now. 382 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: Don't worry. There will be another episode of this show 383 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: about yeah, with some doctors next week probably. 384 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: It's like focusing right now on like pregnancy and policing 385 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 3: pregnant bodies and tailanol and pain management and what's real 386 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: the fact that TAILANL is safe to take while pregnant 387 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: and doesn't cause autism. 388 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's really dwelling on that. 389 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 3: But like there is a lot to say, There's a 390 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: lot to say about the implications of this, where like 391 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: where this came from in our society and where it's going. 392 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: And it's all really horrifying. 393 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's exceptionally bleak. But I do think 394 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: and this is I think a theme we're going to 395 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: be returning to a lot in the coming days and weeks. 396 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: But like, the only silver lining for this is that 397 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: this ship is not popular. It's just not People hate it. 398 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: People hate the administration. They have been hating the station. 399 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: Every day it goes by, they hate it more, you know, 400 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: And this is part of the control strategy, right, part 401 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: of the reason why they're making these incredibly draconian moves 402 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: into like authoritarian moves into the domestic spheres, because it's 403 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: a way of suppressing descent, and they have to do that. 404 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: They have to suppress dessense, and they have to take 405 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: things from us, and they have to continue to try 406 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: to just beat everyone into submission because they can't do 407 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: it through actual persuasion. What they have is the violence 408 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: of the state, and they're going to try to keep 409 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: doing that. But the violence of the state only functions 410 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: insofar as people allow it to function, you know, And 411 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: this has always been sort of the secret of the 412 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: United States, which is that like a bunch of the 413 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: things that they're doing, or they're attacked as that cracked 414 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: downs that they're attempting to do, are effectively unenforceable because 415 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: people simply refuse to cooperate with them. And you know, 416 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: this is a field well, I mean, I don't know 417 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: until they just straight up ban tile and all. This 418 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: is a thing where I guess we're mostly just trying 419 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: to spread information. But like the things that they do 420 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: can be opposed, and when people oppose them on mass, 421 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: they lose. And I don't know, I want to give 422 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: people a little tiny bit of hope. 423 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 4: You want to be positive. 424 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the deterioration of public health in the United 425 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 3: States is absolutely state violence. 426 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 427 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: Focusing on thaile andol and stigmatizing autism and people with 428 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: autism is like distracting from so many things that are 429 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 3: actual public health emergencies. So when they're talking about pregnancy, 430 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: they're talking about tilenel and autism. There are so much 431 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: more severe things going on in the United States right 432 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: now when it comes to both the health of pregnant 433 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: people and infants. So there's the Black maternal mortality crisis, 434 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: which is so severe in so many states that is 435 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: just constantly, like abortion bands have made that even worse. 436 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: There's terrible infant mortality rates rising in states. So for example, 437 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: Mississippi declared infant dense and emergency because they halted that 438 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: CDC information data collection program. So Mississippi declared a public 439 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 3: health emergency from rising informortality. And there's also, I mean, 440 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: I believe that the abortion bands are a medical crisis 441 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: as well. And there's also huge obgyn deserts in this country, 442 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 3: Like we're seeing like the loss of obgyn health providers 443 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: where people can't access a obgyn for miles and miles 444 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 3: and miles and there's just entirely a lack of providers. 445 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 3: These are all very very serious public health emergencies, and 446 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: yet they're talking about autism. 447 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and also as such as they're talking about 448 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: is they're making all of these crises worse, like specifically 449 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: the opgyn crisis. It's like, yeah, I don't know, they've 450 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: been kicking a bunch of people off of their access 451 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: to of their access to government insurance, and like what 452 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: does that do? Oh wait, hold on, It just absolutely 453 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: and nice relates the income and revenue base of a 454 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: bunch of hospitals that already like weren't making much money 455 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: in rural areas, and so more of them close because 456 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: they lease their revenue sources, and suddenly all of these 457 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 2: crises just continue to get worse. 458 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have like this stigmatization of autism, parents 459 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 3: of autistic children, trans people, trans children, when like they're 460 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: focusing on this and they're vilifying and dog piling and 461 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: stigmatizing and and all of these things these groups. While 462 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: there is this snowballing of crises, the damage already just 463 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: from Roe v. Wade being overturned in twenty twenty two, 464 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: Like it's like been three years and there's just been 465 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 3: this like cascading just ever increasing the public health disasters 466 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: from it, and yet we're we're stigmatizing vulnerable people. 467 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the ways that we've been talking about, right. 468 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: Their ideology is about inflicting suffering on vulnerable people because 469 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: they think that it's good, and that's a thing that's 470 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 2: you know, i mean just obviously incompatible with public health 471 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: as a concept, which is you know, part of why 472 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: they're sort of dismantling it. Part of it is that 473 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: these people are all like selling their own weird anti 474 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: vaccine grift stuff that they've been selling for years and 475 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: years and years and years, and all of this has 476 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: just sort of come together into just the sort of 477 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: abyss where all everything that was the public health infrastructure 478 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: in this country, which was insufficient to begin with, i'd 479 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: just been disappearing more and more into. 480 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the erosion of our public health. You know, this 481 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: isn't like new, these decades of you know, this coming 482 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: into being where we are right now. But it's been 483 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: really horrible to watch as a healthcare worker, as somebody 484 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: who cares about just like everyone being able to get 485 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 3: like evidence based care, have access to medical providers, and 486 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 3: then also the ability to do whatever kind of health 487 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: care they need to be able to do on their 488 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: own as well, to just have this solid medical information. 489 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: And then also like there's the public education of it 490 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: all too, because already, like there's this attack on public education, 491 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: which autistic children need a lot of support in order 492 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: to thrive, and schools are you know, they could be 493 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 3: equipped to do that where I've seen wonderful programs and 494 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: wonderful education services that really set people up for success. 495 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: And this goes for like everyone obviously, like any child 496 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: is going to benefit from this, but it just it 497 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: makes everything so much worse, Like parents and families and 498 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: just autistic people just don't get enough support period, just 499 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 3: like trans people as well. And then we're all just 500 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 3: being thrown under the bus for the capitalist class and 501 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: the elites so they can continue to like you know, 502 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 3: hide their pedophilia rings and like the whole just the 503 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 3: fact that they're all like because like what you said 504 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: earlier about rfay, Yeah, these are all a bunch of 505 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: child molesters telling us that we're not strong or brave 506 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: enough to endure pain that we can easily treat with 507 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 3: the medical technology that we have ye, And I feel 508 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 3: like I normally, I feel like I used to not 509 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: talk like this. I used to not be like child 510 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: molesters in the government, Like I kind of feel like, 511 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: but I'm like, this is literally. 512 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 4: Where we are right now somehow. 513 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: So here I am, like, you know, talking about tile 514 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: and all being safe for pregnant people, tail and all 515 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: not causing autism, and then talking about the fact that 516 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: our government is wrung run by a bunch of pedophiles. 517 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: Not quite where I expected to be if you had 518 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: talked to me like eight years ago. 519 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: Maybe it's really something. 520 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 4: It's it's really wild to be talking about this right now. 521 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: And like we knew this was coming too, Like there's 522 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: been months of whispers where it's like, oh, yeah, they're 523 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: going to say til and all causes autism. So like this, 524 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 3: I knew this was coming somehow. I don't even know how. 525 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 3: It's just yeah, I feel like it's all very transparent, 526 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: like there's leagues and there's whatever. But I like, I 527 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: knew this was coming for months, and yet here we are. 528 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: Here we are, yeah, And I don't know, I think 529 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: that's as good for a place to end, unless you 530 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: have anything else you want to make sure you get. 531 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: In I just want to say again that it's safe 532 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: to take tile and all during pregnancy and it doesn't 533 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: cause autism. 534 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and tell everyone. 535 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: You know that and share good resources like ACOG acog 536 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: Physicians for Reproductive Health PRH I believe is their initials acronym. 537 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: We will put links to stuff in the description of this. 538 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also ask your doctor about medication that you 539 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: should take, whether you're pregnant or not. You know, it's 540 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: cool to ask your doctor stuff, like, just ask them questions. 541 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that is what they are there for. 542 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: It Could Happen Here is a production of cool Zone Media. 543 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website 544 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: coolzonmedia dot com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, 545 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. 546 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: Listen to podcasts. 547 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: You can now find sources for It Could Happen here 548 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: listed directly in episode descriptions. Thanks for listening.