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<v Speaker 1>Hig and everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicgo Chic Go edition. As the Bengals rest their

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<v Speaker 2>starters in Week two of the preseason and lose to

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicago Bears twenty seven to three. Coming up radio replays,

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<v Speaker 2>locker room comments and postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then,

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<v Speaker 2>in this week's Fun Facts Conversation, you'll get to know

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles scout on the Bengals roster, rookie linebacker Muma

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest thing since Lou mal Nadis Chicago Style Pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>Muma Jong metas from the Chicago area, and when we

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<v Speaker 2>recorded our fun Facts interview this week, I asked him

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<v Speaker 2>where I should eat during our stay in the Windy City.

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<v Speaker 2>His answer Lou Malnatis. It's Chicago's best known deep dish

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<v Speaker 2>pizza franchise, and it did not disappoint. It's pizza that

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<v Speaker 2>requires a knife and fork to eat it, featuring gooey mozzarella, cheese,

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<v Speaker 2>chunky tomato, sauce, and lean sausage all on a flaky,

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<v Speaker 2>buttery crust. I could happily live on the crust. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there are locals that consider it to be touristy,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you're visiting Chicago and want to try authentic

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago style pizza, then do what I did and listen

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<v Speaker 2>to Muma Jong Meta. Lou Malnadis was a deep dish delight.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's get to football. In the radio replays from

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday's loss to the Bears Week two of the preseason,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are in downtown Chicago where today the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>starters will take the day off and the backups will

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<v Speaker 2>look to shore up roster spots. Improved they are ready

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<v Speaker 2>when needed as the Bengals take on the Chicago Bears,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is time for the pig skin to fly.

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<v Speaker 2>Here at Soldier Field, second down and five Bengals at

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty two of Chicago Sdrick Jackson motions out to

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<v Speaker 2>the left woodside, waits for the shotgun snap.

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<v Speaker 1>He has the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Blitz gets rid of it as he's hit

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<v Speaker 2>and it's intercepted as the ball fluttered right into the

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<v Speaker 2>hands of a Chicago linebacker who picked it off and

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<v Speaker 2>ran it out to the twenty six yard line, intercepted

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<v Speaker 2>by amon Ogbon Bamega. After the big hit on the

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<v Speaker 2>Blitz on loganwood Side.

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<v Speaker 3>Eric Washington, I'm pressuring. I don't think they can pick

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<v Speaker 3>it up. He brought more one more they could than

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<v Speaker 3>they could block.

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<v Speaker 2>Turnover big one third down in goal from the seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams back to throw again, looking scrambling, gets away

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<v Speaker 2>from a sack, spins around, rolling left, pointing toward the

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<v Speaker 2>end zone. Now he takes off and runs and jumps

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<v Speaker 2>into the end zone for a Chicago touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>For what he did when he created when he spun

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<v Speaker 3>away and made the opportunity for himself to get outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Two Bengals defensive linemen fell to the ground so you

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<v Speaker 3>can't pursue anybody when you're on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be a fifty four yard try from the right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hash Rico, the rookie punter, puts the ball down. The

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<v Speaker 2>kick is on its way and has plenty of distance,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is good and the Bengals in the half

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<v Speaker 2>with three points. As the clock hits zero on a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four yard field goal by Evan McK pherson, Traveon

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<v Speaker 2>Williams checks back in a running back, first time we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen him on the field in a while. Here comes

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<v Speaker 2>another blitz. A pass is intercepted and streaking down field

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<v Speaker 2>before being knocked out of bounds by Treveon Williams. Was

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<v Speaker 2>Terrell smith second pick of the day for the Chicago Bears,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes out of bounds in Bengals territory around

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<v Speaker 2>the forty two yard line. Third and goal from the four.

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<v Speaker 2>Dante Pettis motions from left to right and lines up

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<v Speaker 2>in the slot. Pagent surveys the Bengals defense. He drops

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<v Speaker 2>back to throw, Beagent floats it into the end zone

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<v Speaker 2>and it's caught by Pettis for the touchdown. Josh Newton

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<v Speaker 2>the nearest defender, but Dante Pettis, an NFL veteran with

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<v Speaker 2>seventy one regular season catches, got opened in the back

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<v Speaker 2>right corner and caught the TV shotgun snap pagent to throw.

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<v Speaker 2>He lofts it toward the end zone, wow, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is caught by Pettis, who takes it in near the

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<v Speaker 2>forward right pylon for Chicago Touchdow Bombardi waiting for a

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<v Speaker 2>shotgun snap. Three receivers out to the right, one out

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<v Speaker 2>to the left. Rocky leaps to catch the shotgun snap,

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<v Speaker 2>try to run with the ball, loses the ball, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears say they have it at the fifty and

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<v Speaker 2>they do. Rippin takes a knee and that will be

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<v Speaker 2>the final snap of this game. The Chicago Bears the

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<v Speaker 2>first NFL team to three wins this preseason. They are

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<v Speaker 2>three and ozero, and they won the last two by

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<v Speaker 2>dominant margins. They beat the Bills in Buffalo thirty three

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<v Speaker 2>to six. They beat the Bengals in Chicago today twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven to three, and the rain has returned here at

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<v Speaker 2>Soldier Field. There obviously weren't many Bengals highlights in those

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<v Speaker 2>radio calls, but the game wasn't all bad for starters.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals second string defense completely shut down the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>starting offense, led by number one overall draft pick Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>In the first quarter. Chicago's first three drives were three

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<v Speaker 2>and out, but three yard pass interference call on Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>rookie Josh Newton early in the second quarter led to

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<v Speaker 2>a Bear's field goal, and Chicago took advantage of penalties

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<v Speaker 2>and turnovers for the rest of the day. The Bears

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<v Speaker 2>won the turnover battle three zip and scored after all

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<v Speaker 2>three of those takeaways, and Cincinnati committed eleven penalties for

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty three yards. Chicago committed four for

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight. The Bengals running game wasn't great, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was better, as they rushed for eighty two yards on

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five carries. John Metta was the leading tackler for

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<v Speaker 2>the second game in a row with seven and Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Jenkins had his first preseason sack, and Jermaine Burton was

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<v Speaker 2>used extensively as return specialist. His first punt return went

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty three yards but got wiped out by a

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<v Speaker 2>face mass penalty. Both of his kick returns went for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine. Now let's hear what head coach Zach Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>had to say, as he spent a few minutes with

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Lapham after the game.

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<v Speaker 4>So you don't have to be a football physicist or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Three turnovers, three giveaways, no takeaways, eleven penalties for hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and twenty three yards.

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<v Speaker 5>That adds up to a tough day.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it overshadowed some positive things. But this is football

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<v Speaker 6>and we got to learn from it as a team.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what twenty three looks like. When you get

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<v Speaker 6>dominated penalties, dominating field position, dominating turnovers, hasting to do it.

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<v Speaker 6>Talent has undo it scheme. It's just a mindset and

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<v Speaker 6>an awareness level that we didn't have today. And I

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<v Speaker 6>was disappointed, particularly in the second half.

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<v Speaker 4>The first three three possessions your number two's as such,

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<v Speaker 4>going against their number ones. Three straight three and outs,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean no first downs. I mean the game started

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<v Speaker 4>off pretty well on that side of the football, a.

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<v Speaker 6>Lot of positives, I mean three thrad's for the announced defense,

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<v Speaker 6>the offense moved the ball, got into scoring range, and

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<v Speaker 6>we just blitz pick up a turnover. Those things bid

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<v Speaker 6>us there, and really we should have been in a

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<v Speaker 6>much better situation with the lead, playing with the lead

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<v Speaker 6>and all the things that comes with that.

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<v Speaker 4>They were very aggressive in how they were blitz and

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<v Speaker 4>they were bringing people from the back end. They were

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<v Speaker 4>they were pretty aggressive. I mean, was it anything that

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<v Speaker 4>was unexpected prepared for all of that.

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<v Speaker 6>It was as simple as it gets, and we didn't

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<v Speaker 6>do a good job handling it, and that was disappointing.

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<v Speaker 5>Good on them.

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<v Speaker 6>They just kept repeating the same nickel pressure over and

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<v Speaker 6>over because we kept proving we weren't going to pick

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<v Speaker 6>it up. And uh, that's that's that's on the communication

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<v Speaker 6>up front the quarterback, and we got to do much

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<v Speaker 6>better job there.

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<v Speaker 4>How did your your young bucket at center performed? Lee

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<v Speaker 4>took every snap basically in the game, didn't he he did?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well we'll see, you know, we'll be able to

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<v Speaker 6>watch tape and have a better evaluation.

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<v Speaker 4>How about Jenkins, he came up with a sack. He

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<v Speaker 4>looked like he was holding his own in there, going

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<v Speaker 4>against the number ones.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that was encouraging as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean he was part of a front that

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<v Speaker 6>really held into four yards rushing through those first three drives.

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<v Speaker 6>I had the reverse that got out on us, But

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that there were some positive things from him

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<v Speaker 6>and the rest of that defense.

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<v Speaker 5>What about returning kicks?

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<v Speaker 6>Bert, Yeah, you got to use these preseason games to

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<v Speaker 6>evaluate all your guys and in different places to play

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<v Speaker 6>him and see how they can help the team. And

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<v Speaker 6>so we just wanted to get in their evaluation in

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<v Speaker 6>the return game with him on some things.

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<v Speaker 4>So any injuries to speak up, did you get out

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<v Speaker 4>of it fairly clean? After what took place during the

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<v Speaker 4>joint practice.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see there's a couple of things that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>have to manage, you know, And so we'll get a

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<v Speaker 6>better feel for that tonight and tomorrow morning and have

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<v Speaker 6>more word on that tomorrow probably.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you've got practice on Monday. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 4>won't be a grinder as such, because you got you

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<v Speaker 4>got a big joint practice again on Tuesday, don't you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>We got still an opportunity on Monday to get better

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<v Speaker 6>and improve on some things and then really ramp up

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<v Speaker 6>for Tuesday against the Coals.

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<v Speaker 5>To be a funday coach. I appreciate your time as always.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it.

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<v Speaker 2>The bengals only points came on Evan McPherson's fifty four

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<v Speaker 2>yard field goal with rookie punter Ryan Rico doing the

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<v Speaker 2>holding on the final play of the first half. Last week,

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<v Speaker 2>Money Mack missed a fifty eight yard try to end

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<v Speaker 2>the half.

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<v Speaker 5>It was good to get that one to go through.

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<v Speaker 7>I get the confidence roll a little bit, get the

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<v Speaker 7>first one under our belt. It's good for Ryan to

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<v Speaker 7>get out there too in those situations. It's funny how

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<v Speaker 7>I played out similarly to last week, but I'm glad

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<v Speaker 7>that this time we were able to execute what was

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<v Speaker 7>the field like. This field has always been kind of

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<v Speaker 7>weird every time that I've been here. They laid the

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<v Speaker 7>SOD I think on Thursday, so it seems everywhere had

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<v Speaker 7>to make sure you don't plan on it because it

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<v Speaker 7>was shifting. I'm good buddies with their kicker, Cairo, and

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<v Speaker 7>I was watching him warm up and he planted right

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<v Speaker 7>next to a seam and so I'd kind of flap

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<v Speaker 7>up and down. So I was really just making sure

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<v Speaker 7>that I was planning in the middle of those sawd You.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't signed a contract extension. We understand it's really not

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<v Speaker 2>a topic yet until you do, but clearly the organization

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<v Speaker 2>is excited about the opportunity to extend this in the

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<v Speaker 2>near future.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, for sure, and I'm excited about it.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll see whenever I sign it, we'll get a press

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<v Speaker 7>converage together, get to talk about.

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<v Speaker 8>It a little more.

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<v Speaker 7>But no, I'm excited, and I'm grateful for the Brown

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<v Speaker 7>family and everybody that worked on this steal. It really

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<v Speaker 7>means a lot that they showed how much they value me,

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<v Speaker 7>and it just gives me some confidence to go into

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<v Speaker 7>the season just knowing that this is where we're going

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<v Speaker 7>to be for the next couple of years. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>It's reportedly a three year contract extension for sixteen point

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<v Speaker 2>five million bucks, and it's expected to be signed before

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals return to practice on Monday. Now time for

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<v Speaker 2>the radio guys recap map. I think going into this game,

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<v Speaker 2>we thought, all right, it might not go all that well.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bears are going to play starters, the Bengals are not.

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<v Speaker 2>In the first quarter, the Bengals second string defense did

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<v Speaker 2>a phenomenal job against Caleb Williams and a really talented

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<v Speaker 2>Bears offense. To me, that's the best thing that happened

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<v Speaker 2>in this game.

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<v Speaker 4>Agreed three straight three and outs. I thought they really

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<v Speaker 4>showed very very well. I mean, they had Caleb Williams

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<v Speaker 4>on his heels, you know, and then as the game progressed,

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<v Speaker 4>he started making plays and started building his confidence. He

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<v Speaker 4>was on stoes, he was he was playing pretty well.

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<v Speaker 4>But I agree with you. I thought, in the early

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<v Speaker 4>stage of the football game, the number two is more

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<v Speaker 4>than held their own against the Chicago Bears defense.

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<v Speaker 5>He has a lot of talent.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they got a really good quarterback, three wide

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<v Speaker 4>receivers that are threats, tight end, running back. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they're they're pretty darn good. And uh for three possessions,

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<v Speaker 4>no first outs, three three and outs, I think they

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<v Speaker 4>only had four yards total on their first three possessions,

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<v Speaker 4>something crazy like that. So it shows what these guys

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<v Speaker 4>are capable of. And I thought, you know, guys like

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Jenkins gets his first NFL sack, he was a disruptive.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought he was a good a good force inside.

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<v Speaker 4>On the other side of the football, I thought Matt

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<v Speaker 4>Lee did the yeomen's work, you know, in the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 4>took every snap in the in the football game, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think he probably won a heck of a lot

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<v Speaker 4>more than he than he didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's always going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be plays that you want to have back I don't

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<v Speaker 4>care what position you play, and I don't care what

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<v Speaker 4>level of football you play. So I think those two

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<v Speaker 4>young guys probably took advantage of opportunities pretty darn well.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Newton's had an excellent camp, but he's a rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to be ups and downs, and he had

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<v Speaker 2>some downs in this game. A very costly pass interference

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<v Speaker 2>penalty gave up one of the touchdown passes. So there

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<v Speaker 2>were some learning moments, to put it nicely, for Josh

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<v Speaker 2>in this game.

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<v Speaker 4>There were And here's the real true test of a rookie.

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<v Speaker 4>How's he gonna respond. There's no way this kid's going

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<v Speaker 4>in the tank. He's got too much you know, going

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<v Speaker 4>for him, intelligence, competitiveness, desire.

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<v Speaker 5>He'll learn.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you said, there's lessons to be learned, and he'll

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<v Speaker 4>learn them and he won't make the same mistake twice.

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll come back against the Colts and probably you know,

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<v Speaker 4>make plays. And that's the sign of if you've got

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<v Speaker 4>a football player that can last in the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 4>going against the best of the best, you know, every

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<v Speaker 4>single week and every single day in practice. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to be moments where, man, what the heck

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<v Speaker 4>was wrong today. I couldn't do anything right, and then

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<v Speaker 4>there are going to be moments that you know, it's like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't make a mistake out here. Everything I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm guessing right, I'm playing well. It's like it's crazy

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<v Speaker 4>how it'll how it'll go. But the guys that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>compartmentalize both of it. Don't don't assume that the great

0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.840
<v Speaker 4>days are going to be strung together a bunch, and

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<v Speaker 4>don't assume that, you know, make sure the bad days

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<v Speaker 4>don't reoccur. And those are the guys that kind of

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<v Speaker 4>make it for a while.

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<v Speaker 5>The Bengals have issues at offensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>Marius Mimms out for several weeks with a strained pectoral,

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<v Speaker 2>Deontae Smith out for the rest of the year with

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<v Speaker 2>a knee injury. Orlando Brown Junior and Trent Brown did

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<v Speaker 2>not start in this game. So the starting offensive tackles

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<v Speaker 2>were guys that they really project to be guards, and

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<v Speaker 2>as you might expect, the Bears were able to capitalize

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<v Speaker 2>on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I thought, I thought Kirkland had a pretty solid day.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember Ford getting bull rushed once and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there was some some situation there. Like I said, though

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, you know, you play sixty snaps, which the

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<v Speaker 4>offense did, there's going to be a handful that you're

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<v Speaker 4>not proud of. You just hope that they're not catastrophes,

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<v Speaker 4>they're not tragedies. So yeah, it was it was. It

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<v Speaker 4>was makeshift in the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 8>For sure.

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<v Speaker 5>You got a rookie rookie center.

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<v Speaker 4>Gillam played a left guard left guard spot, and you

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<v Speaker 4>know Ford was out there at at right tackle and

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<v Speaker 4>Hill was at the right guard position. So you had

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of guys, you know, playing spots that they

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<v Speaker 4>don't normally take a lot of reps out, which is

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<v Speaker 4>a good test because you know, if you're not quote

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<v Speaker 4>starting offensive lineman, you have to play multiple, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>minimum of two positions, and you have to play if

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<v Speaker 4>you can play garden tackle, you have to work to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to play garden tackle on both sides of

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<v Speaker 4>a line of scrimmage. If you can play center, you

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<v Speaker 4>got to make sure you can play center and both guards,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and so you have to give some position

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<v Speaker 4>versatility to the coaching staff for you to be a

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<v Speaker 4>candidate to be one of the you know, nine guys

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<v Speaker 4>that make the final roster or ten or whatever it

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<v Speaker 4>may be.

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<v Speaker 2>Played their starting quarterback, the first pick in the draft,

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams. For a half, the Bengals starting quarterback was

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<v Speaker 2>their number three QB, Logan Woodside.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you think he did?

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<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, there were some ups and downs

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<v Speaker 4>to his players. Well, the thing I like about him

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<v Speaker 4>is man I mentioned it during the game. I saw

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<v Speaker 4>him at various spots in the hotel, whether it be

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<v Speaker 4>in a meeting room all by himself or the cafeteria

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<v Speaker 4>all by himself, whatever, just putting an extra time, I mean, grinding,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, making sure that he was going to take

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<v Speaker 4>full advantage of this opportunity. I thought he played really

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<v Speaker 4>well in the first preseason game. I thought he was stellar.

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<v Speaker 4>Really he played a heck of a football game. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure there's a lot of things that he'd like to

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<v Speaker 4>have back, you know, in this football game, the opportunities

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<v Speaker 4>didn't quite present themselves, you know, as much as they

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<v Speaker 4>did in the first matchup that he had. But he's

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<v Speaker 4>a pro. He's a pros pro. I mean he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to go about it the exact same way. He'll study

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<v Speaker 4>the tape the same way that he did. He'll attack

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<v Speaker 4>the playbook the same way that he did and get

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<v Speaker 4>ready to have a you know, a better performance against

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<v Speaker 4>the Indianapolis Colts and the joint practices in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Assuming that Jake Browning's injury isn't too serious and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it is, your number three quarterback can be

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<v Speaker 2>one of two things. A developmental guy somebody had drafted

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<v Speaker 2>maybe try to you know, develop into being a backup someday.

0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Or it can be a veteran guy that you trust

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<v Speaker 2>if something were to happen, you know, you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>guy waiting in the wings. It feels to me like

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<v Speaker 2>Logan Woodside fits that second description pretty well.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't agree with you more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I think I think that it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>like he's been around long enough where you kind of

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<v Speaker 4>know what you have, you know, from a developmental standpoint.

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<v Speaker 5>But you like it for the reasons that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>If you know, if all hell breaks loose and you

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<v Speaker 4>know you're a you're put in a situation that you

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<v Speaker 4>never thought you'd be in a million years. You can

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<v Speaker 4>have a guy that has been under fire, has been

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<v Speaker 4>exposed to it at the at the NFL level, and

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<v Speaker 4>as mature and you know can handle everything, the good,

0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.640
<v Speaker 4>the bad, and the ugly. That's invaluable deposition, no question

0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:06.040
<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Evan McPherson drilled the fifty four yard field goal to

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<v Speaker 2>account for the Bengals only points. And Ryan Rico got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of punting opportunities in this game. With Grab

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<v Speaker 2>Robbins out and we don't know about his status for

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<v Speaker 2>the start of the regular season. I would think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of opportunities for Ryan Rico is only a good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, definitely. And you know there were some mixed results there.

0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he got lucky, he got good bounce, I

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<v Speaker 4>should say on one of them that ended up being

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<v Speaker 4>a fifty plus yard punt that really wasn't that And

0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.080
<v Speaker 4>then his hangtime probably wasn't what he wanted. He can

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<v Speaker 4>kick him to the moon, so he was probably, I

0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Speaker 4>don't know, maybe pressing a little bit. You know, this opportunity, man,

0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.800
<v Speaker 4>it's here. I got to take full advantage and you

0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.320
<v Speaker 4>learn from that. Now it's you know, when you are

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<v Speaker 4>punting against the Colts, you know next week, just relax,

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<v Speaker 4>trust your technique. You've done it a million times, You've

0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.160
<v Speaker 4>done it for years. Don't change anything. Just go out

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<v Speaker 4>and be the best you can be with what you

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.960
<v Speaker 4>know how to do. And I think he's gonna be fine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because like you said, I mean, you know, hip flex

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<v Speaker 4>is no joke for anybody a kicker. I mean, those

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<v Speaker 4>those things. It's hard to put a timetable on him,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and if you're trying to come back too early,

0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.760
<v Speaker 4>it can be a lingering, nagging thing. I mean, those

0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.400
<v Speaker 4>things are not pretty sometimes.

0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Charlie Jones should be back from his kneebrews soon. In

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<v Speaker 2>the meantime, we might have found out something about Jermaine

0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Burton as a return threat. He looked good both as

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<v Speaker 2>a punt returner and as a kick returner today and

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<v Speaker 2>he did not do that in college.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that he made really good decisions, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the biggest percentage of the battle is being

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<v Speaker 4>decisive and making a quick decision. And I thought he

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<v Speaker 4>did that. And he got upfield, he got north and

0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:59.680
<v Speaker 4>south as quickly as he possibly could. And man, he's explosive,

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<v Speaker 4>he's sudden, he's got a strong body. I mean, all

0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.679
<v Speaker 4>the all the attributes that you like about him as

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 4>a as a receiver, he checks all those boxes as

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<v Speaker 4>a as a return guy as well. I mean he's

0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:15.000
<v Speaker 4>dynamic in space. You know, catches the ball well, I

0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.520
<v Speaker 4>mean tracks it well. He's got a lot going for

0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.600
<v Speaker 4>him in that regard. He's still learning the offense. It's

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.919
<v Speaker 4>not as easy to learn it as maybe some people realize.

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<v Speaker 4>But this could be a way to get an immediate

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<v Speaker 4>return on a third round draft pick by using him

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.479
<v Speaker 4>in that role. Yeah, when a guy has has that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of I mean back in the day, David Verser

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<v Speaker 4>was a guy first round pick out of Kansas, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, you know, he was struggling to learn everything

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<v Speaker 4>that needed to be learned and where the quarterbacks could

0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 4>totally trust him that he was there. So you know what,

0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 4>let's have him go back there and return kicks me

0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 4>it takes one back for a touchdown, you know. I mean,

0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 4>those guys that have have those those rare innate physical attributes,

0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:00.639
<v Speaker 4>you got to utilize them somehow, and that'd be a

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<v Speaker 4>good way to do it.

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.160
<v Speaker 2>The results on the field weren't great on this extended

0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 2>road trip to Chicago. Obviously, they had a couple of

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.679
<v Speaker 2>very costly injuries in Thursday's joint practice, but there were

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.920
<v Speaker 2>some good team bonding opportunities. The guys had some nice

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.560
<v Speaker 2>dinners out. They had the Rookie Talent show at the

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.680
<v Speaker 2>team hotel. So some of the things that you don't

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.960
<v Speaker 2>get a chance to see necessarily were good on this trip.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know what it is valuable to Dan.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like when you're at a joint practice like they

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<v Speaker 4>had and the weather's so terrible and all that you

0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:32.200
<v Speaker 4>sit around and.

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<v Speaker 5>You talk about it, what was good, what do we

0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 5>need to do better? You know, and then you can

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<v Speaker 5>joke about it too. Man, you look so terrible in

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:41.000
<v Speaker 5>that ray.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you can have some fun with guys and

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:47.119
<v Speaker 4>it can be a learning experience, a fun experience, a

0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 4>bonding experience. I mean, you can always make a chicken

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.200
<v Speaker 4>salad at a chicken as best you can.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good note to wrap up on, and see

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<v Speaker 2>you for the joint practice on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 5>Look forward to that, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see the starters back on the field in that

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<v Speaker 2>joint practice against the Colts on Tuesday afternoon. The final

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<v Speaker 2>you get to know the person under the pads. Time

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<v Speaker 2>for some fun facts with a Bengals rookie who has

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<v Speaker 2>the most difficult last name to spell since Shushman Zada,

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<v Speaker 2>Mumma Jong Meta.

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<v Speaker 1>How did I do good? I said it?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Yeah, you said it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start with your parents, who sound like

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<v Speaker 2>pretty remarkable people. Your mom was a Fulbright scholar, which

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<v Speaker 2>is extremely prestigious. Both of your parents have PhDs, which

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<v Speaker 2>is obviously an extremely high level of academic achievement. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you admire and respect about your folks?

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<v Speaker 8>My dad has three masters?

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<v Speaker 9>Just the record fell out the record. No, what do

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<v Speaker 9>I admire and respect them? About my parents? I mean

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<v Speaker 9>they are great people. Also just the it's nasty and

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<v Speaker 9>the perseverance to.

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<v Speaker 8>Leave their country at a young age.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean a little bit about them. So they were

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<v Speaker 9>from Cameroon, but just because of the political socioeconomic situation

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<v Speaker 9>in Cameroon, as someone who's English speaking, so it's there's

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<v Speaker 9>English speaking and French speaking people. Just the schools aren't

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<v Speaker 9>as welcoming for Uncle Phone people in Comeroon. So they

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 9>went to Nigeria. So they left, They left their family,

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<v Speaker 9>They went to Nigeria, a different country for university, and

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<v Speaker 9>I think that was when they're eighteen nine ten. From

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<v Speaker 9>that point on, they were pretty much on their own.

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<v Speaker 9>My dad's dad died when he was super young. He

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<v Speaker 9>was the first in his household. My mom's dad died

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<v Speaker 9>when she was also pretty young. She's the first in

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 9>her household. So they were just, I mean, trailblazers their

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<v Speaker 9>whole life. Went to Nigeria, got their degrees, came back.

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 9>My dad was like, Okay, I'm going to Liverpool to

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<v Speaker 9>get my PhD. While my mom was raising me and

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<v Speaker 9>my brother. At some point, you know, she gets breast cancer.

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 9>She's applying for full Bite. She beats cancer the first time,

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<v Speaker 9>accepts the full Bright scholarship to Texas.

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 8>A and m moves us, my dad, all.

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<v Speaker 9>Of us across the world, goes into remission, she's doing

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 9>her PhD, finishes her PhD, beats cancer the second time.

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 9>My dad's supporting us with his university job that pays nothing.

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<v Speaker 9>And then like they are trailblazers to the max. And

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<v Speaker 9>so like you know, I play art sport, we play

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 9>hard sport. There's a lot that goes into it. There's

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of you know everything, great diversity, but like,

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<v Speaker 9>was it really you know, what's that adversity I faced

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<v Speaker 9>in this sport compared to what they really had to do.

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 9>People ask if I had to bet on myself as

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<v Speaker 9>an undrafted guy. I did, But they had to bet

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 9>them on themselves to move across the world. You know,

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:26.679
<v Speaker 9>we had a really nice life over there, and they

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 9>they put that on pause almost through it a way

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<v Speaker 9>for something better, for a better investment. And so they,

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<v Speaker 9>my parents are remarkable people and I owe a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of who I am to them and honestly to my

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 9>older brother too, who who has shaped me into the

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<v Speaker 9>man I am today.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been back to Cameroon?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>So, like I said, I was born there, went there

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<v Speaker 9>again in twenty twelve and haven't been back since. There's

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 9>a civil war right now, unfortunately, so I have not

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 9>been back since.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's safe to assume that grades came first in

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<v Speaker 2>the Jong Meta household.

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 9>Grades came first. Grades came first. If you want to

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.239
<v Speaker 9>go see your friends, what are grades looking like? At

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.719
<v Speaker 9>one point, my dad was uh telling me that, hey,

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 9>if you you know, you get a C minus and

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 9>ap COWC, you're we're gonna quit football. You know, we're

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 9>gonna turn your cleats. And so, I mean, it was

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 9>always grades first, and it was hard then, but you

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 9>know now you look back and it's just like they

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 9>were just trying to teach me the important and priorities

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<v Speaker 9>and what's really important.

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.199
<v Speaker 8>And uh, I mean obviously it worked out. You know,

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.199
<v Speaker 8>if I had gotten that sea and I had to

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 8>quit football, let's suck. No, that would really suck. But

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, it motivated me and got to B minus.

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 8>So grades always came first, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We're visiting with Bouma Jong Matta. Unlike most of your

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Bengals teammates, you did not grow up with a football

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 2>in your hands. How and when did you get involved

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 2>with this sport?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, freshman year of high school got involved. You know,

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 9>we had a uh, basically we had this I went

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 9>to a really big high school, right four thousand kids,

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 9>and so as part of the transition from eighth grade

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 9>to ninth grade, they had they would always do like

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 9>these symposiums pretty much just like kids know, like hey,

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 9>this was with the squad to offer, and so they

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 9>sent some kids from the high school to my junior

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 9>high to do an art symposium, like completely random. And

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.479
<v Speaker 9>one of the kids there was names cam Green. He

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<v Speaker 9>uh he they had just won state and basketball. They

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 9>had just won state in football and basketball, and he

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 9>was on both teams. He had his letterman on and

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 9>I saw him from Afar. I was like, man, I

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 9>thought he was the Closes dude. But I was like, man,

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 9>I want to be like him.

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 8>Seriously, no jokes, something as simple as that.

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 9>You know, if he hadn't taken art as a just

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 9>an easy credit his senior year, like maybe I wouldn't

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:49.479
<v Speaker 9>be playing football.

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.959
<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't wearcket.

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 9>Or yeah, if you didn't whar the letter you know,

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 9>if he was just a guy like no letterman jacket.

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 8>You know who knows if I'm playing football?

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 9>So now, but I saw him from Afar and I

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 9>was like, man, I want you know, that's the type

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 9>of dude, I want to be like so, and that

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 9>that moment, that day, that small day, led me on

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<v Speaker 9>this nine year plus journey.

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 8>And it's crazy.

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 2>Once you started playing, what about this sport captivated you?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 9>The first thing was I wasn't very good at it,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 9>and that that was like frustrating because it was like

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 9>I should be like I get my butt kicked, I

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 9>feel like I'm getting the hang of this, but I'm

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:35.199
<v Speaker 9>so I'm still sucking. And I think that's really what

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 9>it was. So like I was drawn for like maybe

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 9>some more superficial reasons, but what kept me going was

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 9>just the ability to get better like that, just the

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 9>chase of like, Okay, all right, I'm working on this.

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 8>I'm working on this.

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 9>Okay, boom, it's shown up. All right, cool, now I'm

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 9>working on this. I'm working on this. There was a camaraderie,

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 9>the team aspect of it, Like there's very like, I

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 9>don't know, team sports are awesome.

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 8>You know.

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 9>I did discus in high school, and there's a team

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.959
<v Speaker 9>element to that, but like you're the one in the ring,

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 9>you know, and the team element comes out when maybe

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 9>your points come together for the team. But like it's

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 9>a solo sport. I've done solo sports, but I love

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 9>team sports. I love team sports. There's nothing like them.

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 9>The camaraderie, the brotherhood, the development of the men, you know,

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 9>to the man I became and becoming as I played

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 9>the sport, and the longer I played, the more I

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 9>realized how much football was like life. You know, so

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 9>many of the things you see in football happen in life,

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 9>and and.

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 8>The lessons are there.

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 9>You just have to look a little closer to see him,

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 9>and closer I looked them, I was like, man, this

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 9>there's nothing like the sport.

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 8>So it's a blessing to be here. I'm very excited.

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 2>You went to high school in the Chicago area. You

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>excelled on the field and in the classroom, and at

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the end of your high school career, the Ivy League

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:57.719
<v Speaker 2>schools came calling, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, et cetera. Considering your parents'

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>academic achievements. Did they push you toward the IVY League?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 9>One thing I love about my parents, they never really

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 9>pushed me for football. There's they actually pushed me against

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 9>the like we don't know if we don't know, if.

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 8>This is the answer. And then you know what. You know,

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 8>once college was free, They're like, all right, we're good

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 8>for it. No, I mean.

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 9>They were like, yeah, go wherever makes you happy. And

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 9>you know, I ended up being Wisconsin, which was a

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 9>great decision.

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 8>I loved. I loved Wisconsin.

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>And a great school. You spent five years there. What

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>was your favorite part of your college experience?

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 8>Oh, my goodness, this is a whole other interview.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 9>Wisconsin is an amazing place because it's like it's it's

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 9>kind of the epitome of what I think. Like I

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 9>don't know, I think what college should be. It's like

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 9>work hard, play hard. That's how I am. They kids

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 9>over there are so smart. I mean I remember.

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 8>So there's that. There's that. There's the it's two hours

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 8>away from my house.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 9>So like so many of my so so many high

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 9>school KI went there, but like not too many where

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 9>it felt like.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 8>I was in high school.

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 9>But like enough where you walk around you're seeing, oh,

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 9>you're running to people like you haven't seen it in

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 9>a while. So I have friends who like we go

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 9>out together. You know, they were in Greek life and

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 9>maybe I'm going out once a week and they're telling

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 9>me stories of throughout Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 8>I'm like, oh my goodness.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 9>And then final this time came around and U and

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.719
<v Speaker 9>they started talking about school. I'm like, okay, like what

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 9>are you studying?

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 8>We're going down the line. One of them is a

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 8>biomedical engineer.

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 9>One of them's uh, one of them is neurobiology. One

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 9>of them this, that, this, and this was, uh this

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 9>was my girl group friend my girl friend group. So

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 9>like they were all in the sororities and they were

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 9>like active in Greek life and partying and doing this,

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 9>and it was like like that was what Wisconsin was like,

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 9>super smart kids who were down a good time to

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 9>have a good time, but who were also about their

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 9>business and it was a great combination.

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 8>Loved it there.

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Some kids can pull it off. That wasn't a lot

0:31:58.680 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>of them.

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 2>So, following a great career with the Badgers, you weren't

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 2>selected in this year's draft, but it sounds like the

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Bengals made it clear for months that they would be

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>interested in signing you as a college free agent.

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 9>Was that the case, Yeah, I I caught me by

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 9>surprise the Bengals, you know, so you know, my agent's like, yeah,

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 9>some teams just like the stand of the radar. You know,

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 9>I spoke with them. I spoke with them at the

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 9>Hula Bowl. I think I spoke with them at the

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 9>East West Ron game. I spoke with Ronnie Ragula like

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 9>maybe two weeks before the draft.

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:33.959
<v Speaker 5>That was it.

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 9>But they didn't seem any more interested or less interested

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 9>than any other team. So it's kind of surprised when

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 9>I got the call, but I was. It was like

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 9>a pleasant surprise. I love Cincinnati into a ton of

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 9>Reds games. I'm a baseball fan now because of them.

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 8>I love the.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 9>Vibes of the city. The locker room culture here is unreal.

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 9>The linebacker room is great Logan Jermaine, Akeem Joe. I

0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 9>mean the great guys have learned from Like there's a lot,

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 9>uh you know, great pieces on the offense and defense

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 9>like this is. There's so much going for this team

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 9>that I love that. I'm just blessed to be here

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 9>every day.

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 8>So I was kind of guarded when they called me,

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 8>but I was like, let's go, let's ride.

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>So we're chatting the moment, Jong Meta. In your preseason debut,

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 2>you led the team with ten tackles and two pass deflections.

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Did you feel like you showed you belong.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's an interesting question. I feel like I feel

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<v Speaker 8>like you know.

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<v Speaker 9>I think, first of all, it is a blessing to

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<v Speaker 9>play well on Saturday, Like that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 8>Anytime you play well, it's like a great feeling.

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<v Speaker 9>But also there's a realization that you know, it's about

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<v Speaker 9>the body of work. You know, no one remembers the

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<v Speaker 9>one hit Wonders. You know, a bunch of songs that

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<v Speaker 9>I've listened to from artists where man, it's only that's

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<v Speaker 9>the only song, Like it was cool back back then,

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<v Speaker 9>But what about now, you know? And what I mean

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<v Speaker 9>by that is it was great to play well, But

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<v Speaker 9>at the end of the day, what can I do

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<v Speaker 9>to continue to add? You know, I think you show

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<v Speaker 9>that you belong not by what you do on any

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<v Speaker 9>one day, but what you do over.

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<v Speaker 8>The course of time.

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<v Speaker 9>And my whole mindsett since I got here in April

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<v Speaker 9>or May or it's felt like I've been here for

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<v Speaker 9>a year. But try I belong every day by my preparation,

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<v Speaker 9>how I take care of my body, you know, how

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<v Speaker 9>I am in the meeting rooms, what the vets you're doing,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm doing. I'm taking care of my You know I

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<v Speaker 9>already said I but I'm taking care of my body

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<v Speaker 9>before after practice, like all those things. In my mind

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<v Speaker 9>is showing that I belong in great to go out

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<v Speaker 9>there and play really well.

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<v Speaker 8>But at the end of the day, it's what have

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<v Speaker 8>I been doing in practice?

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<v Speaker 9>What I have I been doing in OTAs, in training camp,

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<v Speaker 9>all that stuff. I think it's the body of work

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<v Speaker 9>that contributes to that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an Eagle Scout, meaning you earned at least twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one merit badge. Is what does rank of Eagle Scout

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<v Speaker 2>represent to you?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Scout is trustworthy, loyal, honest, helpful, friendly, kind, courageous, obedient, cheerful, brave, thrifty,

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<v Speaker 9>and reverent.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>So we used to recite that all the time. But no,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean being an Eagle Scout was is cool. My

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<v Speaker 9>dad said it would help me get in college.

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<v Speaker 8>Football helped me get into college.

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<v Speaker 9>But the skills I learned boy scouts, I think actually

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<v Speaker 9>have transferred into the type of person I am today

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<v Speaker 9>and the leader I am just because in boy scouts

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<v Speaker 9>are dealing with all types of people and trying to

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<v Speaker 9>combine together for one common goal, sort of like football,

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<v Speaker 9>except the things that keep people together in football are

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<v Speaker 9>slightly different than the things that keep people together in

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<v Speaker 9>a boy Scout unit. But I loved my experience there

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<v Speaker 9>and I love camping now because of it. Then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>random fun the fact I tell people like some of

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<v Speaker 9>my teammates have.

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<v Speaker 8>Kids, I'm like, how mean babysit for you? I'm an

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<v Speaker 8>eagle scout like I have that going for me. So no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>that's something I did in my past life.

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<v Speaker 2>You majored in business with a focus in finance, banking

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<v Speaker 2>and investment. Do you know what you would like to

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<v Speaker 2>do after football?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, hopefully in you know, fifteen twenty.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I'm gonna go the next chance I get, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>hopefully next offseason or whenever the time comes. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 9>finish my masters. I have one more semester left my

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<v Speaker 9>master's in the finance, and then probably pursue that route,

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<v Speaker 9>do some some on that end.

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<v Speaker 2>Final fun fact for Muma Jong Matta, This one's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of deep. If you could meet anyone in history, living

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<v Speaker 2>or deceased, who would that person be?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh uh, probably Jesus.

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<v Speaker 9>And then if I could like be like your phone

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<v Speaker 9>a friend, like get Buddha, get Buddha on the line. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean definitely been growing in my faith probably yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>since honestly since college.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'd love to meet Jesus. Uh and then maybe

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<v Speaker 8>a nonspiritual answer.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I'm gonna submit that. That's my final answer, Jesus and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Buddh And it's a very good answer. I appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope you have another great game this week and best

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<v Speaker 2>of luck in the future.

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<v Speaker 8>Appreciate you, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Booma has done very well in the first two preseason

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<v Speaker 2>games as he looks to earn a spot on the

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three man roster or the Bengals sixteen man practice squad.

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