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Speaker 1: Hig and everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast,

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Speaker 2: the Chicgo Chic Go edition. As the Bengals rest their

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Speaker 2: starters in Week two of the preseason and lose to

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears twenty seven to three. Coming up radio replays,

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Speaker 2: locker room comments and postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then,

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Speaker 2: in this week's Fun Facts Conversation, you'll get to know

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Speaker 2: the Eagles scout on the Bengals roster, rookie linebacker Muma

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Speaker 2: the greatest thing since Lou mal Nadis Chicago Style Pizza.

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Speaker 2: Muma Jong metas from the Chicago area, and when we

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Speaker 2: recorded our fun Facts interview this week, I asked him

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Speaker 2: where I should eat during our stay in the Windy City.

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Speaker 2: His answer Lou Malnatis. It's Chicago's best known deep dish

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Speaker 2: pizza franchise, and it did not disappoint. It's pizza that

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Speaker 2: requires a knife and fork to eat it, featuring gooey mozzarella, cheese,

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Speaker 2: chunky tomato, sauce, and lean sausage all on a flaky,

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Speaker 2: buttery crust. I could happily live on the crust. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure there are locals that consider it to be touristy,

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Speaker 2: but if you're visiting Chicago and want to try authentic

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Speaker 2: Chicago style pizza, then do what I did and listen

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Speaker 2: to Muma Jong Meta. Lou Malnadis was a deep dish delight.

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Speaker 2: Now let's get to football. In the radio replays from

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Speaker 2: Saturday's loss to the Bears Week two of the preseason,

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Speaker 2: and we are in downtown Chicago where today the Bengals

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Speaker 2: starters will take the day off and the backups will

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Speaker 2: look to shore up roster spots. Improved they are ready

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Speaker 2: when needed as the Bengals take on the Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 2: and it is time for the pig skin to fly.

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Speaker 2: Here at Soldier Field, second down and five Bengals at

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Speaker 2: the twenty two of Chicago Sdrick Jackson motions out to

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Speaker 2: the left woodside, waits for the shotgun snap.

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Speaker 1: He has the ball.

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Speaker 2: It's a Blitz gets rid of it as he's hit

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Speaker 2: and it's intercepted as the ball fluttered right into the

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Speaker 2: ran it out to the twenty six yard line, intercepted

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Speaker 3: Eric Washington, I'm pressuring. I don't think they can pick

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Speaker 3: it up. He brought more one more they could than

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Speaker 2: Turnover big one third down in goal from the seven.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams back to throw again, looking scrambling, gets away

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Speaker 2: from a sack, spins around, rolling left, pointing toward the

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Speaker 3: For what he did when he created when he spun

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Speaker 3: Two Bengals defensive linemen fell to the ground so you

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Speaker 2: Hash Rico, the rookie punter, puts the ball down. The

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Speaker 2: and it is good and the Bengals in the half

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Speaker 2: dominant margins. They beat the Bills in Buffalo thirty three

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Speaker 2: seven to three, and the rain has returned here at

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Speaker 2: Soldier Field. There obviously weren't many Bengals highlights in those

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Speaker 2: radio calls, but the game wasn't all bad for starters.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals second string defense completely shut down the Bears

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Speaker 2: In the first quarter. Chicago's first three drives were three

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Speaker 2: rookie Josh Newton early in the second quarter led to

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Speaker 2: three of those takeaways, and Cincinnati committed eleven penalties for

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Speaker 2: thirty eight. The Bengals running game wasn't great, but it

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Speaker 2: the second game in a row with seven and Chris

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Speaker 2: Jenkins had his first preseason sack, and Jermaine Burton was

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Speaker 2: twenty nine. Now let's hear what head coach Zach Taylor

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Speaker 4: So you don't have to be a football physicist or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Three turnovers, three giveaways, no takeaways, eleven penalties for hundred

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Speaker 5: That adds up to a tough day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it overshadowed some positive things. But this is football

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Speaker 6: and we got to learn from it as a team.

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Speaker 6: And that's what twenty three looks like. When you get

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Speaker 6: dominated penalties, dominating field position, dominating turnovers, hasting to do it.

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Speaker 6: Talent has undo it scheme. It's just a mindset and

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Speaker 6: an awareness level that we didn't have today. And I

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Speaker 4: The first three three possessions your number two's as such,

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Speaker 6: Lot of positives, I mean three thrad's for the announced defense,

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Speaker 6: the offense moved the ball, got into scoring range, and

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Speaker 6: we just blitz pick up a turnover. Those things bid

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Speaker 6: us there, and really we should have been in a

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Speaker 6: much better situation with the lead, playing with the lead

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Speaker 4: They were very aggressive in how they were blitz and

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Speaker 4: they were bringing people from the back end. They were

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Speaker 4: they were pretty aggressive. I mean, was it anything that

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Speaker 6: It was as simple as it gets, and we didn't

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Speaker 5: Good on them.

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Speaker 6: They just kept repeating the same nickel pressure over and

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Speaker 6: over because we kept proving we weren't going to pick

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Speaker 6: up front the quarterback, and we got to do much

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Speaker 4: How did your your young bucket at center performed? Lee

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Speaker 4: took every snap basically in the game, didn't he he did?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well we'll see, you know, we'll be able to

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Speaker 4: How about Jenkins, he came up with a sack. He

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Speaker 4: looked like he was holding his own in there, going

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Speaker 5: I mean that was encouraging as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he was part of a front that

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Speaker 6: I had the reverse that got out on us, But

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Speaker 6: I thought that there were some positive things from him

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Speaker 5: What about returning kicks?

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Speaker 6: Bert, Yeah, you got to use these preseason games to

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Speaker 6: evaluate all your guys and in different places to play

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Speaker 6: so we just wanted to get in their evaluation in

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Speaker 4: So any injuries to speak up, did you get out

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Speaker 4: of it fairly clean? After what took place during the

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Speaker 6: We'll see there's a couple of things that we're gonna

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Speaker 6: better feel for that tonight and tomorrow morning and have

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Speaker 6: more word on that tomorrow probably.

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Speaker 4: And then you've got practice on Monday. I'm sure that

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Speaker 4: won't be a grinder as such, because you got you

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Speaker 4: got a big joint practice again on Tuesday, don't you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: We got still an opportunity on Monday to get better

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Speaker 6: and improve on some things and then really ramp up

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Speaker 6: for Tuesday against the Coals.

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Speaker 5: To be a funday coach. I appreciate your time as always.

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Speaker 1: You got it.

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Speaker 2: The bengals only points came on Evan McPherson's fifty four

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Speaker 2: holding on the final play of the first half. Last week,

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Speaker 2: Money Mack missed a fifty eight yard try to end

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Speaker 5: It was good to get that one to go through.

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Speaker 7: I get the confidence roll a little bit, get the

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Speaker 7: first one under our belt. It's good for Ryan to

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Speaker 7: get out there too in those situations. It's funny how

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Speaker 7: I played out similarly to last week, but I'm glad

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Speaker 7: that this time we were able to execute what was

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Speaker 7: the field like. This field has always been kind of

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Speaker 7: weird every time that I've been here. They laid the

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Speaker 7: was shifting. I'm good buddies with their kicker, Cairo, and

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Speaker 7: I was watching him warm up and he planted right

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Speaker 2: Haven't signed a contract extension. We understand it's really not

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Speaker 2: a topic yet until you do, but clearly the organization

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Speaker 2: is excited about the opportunity to extend this in the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure, and I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 7: We'll see whenever I sign it, we'll get a press

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Speaker 8: It a little more.

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Speaker 7: But no, I'm excited, and I'm grateful for the Brown

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Speaker 2: In the first quarter, the Bengals second string defense did

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Speaker 4: Agreed three straight three and outs. I thought they really

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Speaker 5: He has a lot of talent.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they got a really good quarterback, three wide

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Speaker 5: And there's always going to.

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Speaker 4: Be plays that you want to have back I don't

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Speaker 2: They're going to be ups and downs, and he had

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Speaker 4: There were And here's the real true test of a rookie.

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Speaker 4: How's he gonna respond. There's no way this kid's going

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Speaker 4: And we'll come back against the Colts and probably you know,

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Speaker 5: The Bengals have issues at offensive tackle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought, I thought Kirkland had a pretty solid day.

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Speaker 2: Played their starting quarterback, the first pick in the draft,

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Speaker 5: How do you think he did?

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, there were some ups and downs

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Speaker 2: Evan McPherson drilled the fifty four yard field goal to

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Speaker 5: You talk about it, what was good, what do we

436
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Speaker 5: need to do better? You know, and then you can

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Speaker 5: joke about it too. Man, you look so terrible in

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Speaker 5: that ray.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can have some fun with guys and

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Speaker 4: it can be a learning experience, a fun experience, a

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Speaker 4: bonding experience. I mean, you can always make a chicken

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Speaker 4: salad at a chicken as best you can.

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Speaker 2: That's a good note to wrap up on, and see

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Speaker 2: you for the joint practice on Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: Look forward to that, sir.

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Speaker 2: We'll see the starters back on the field in that

447
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Speaker 2: joint practice against the Colts on Tuesday afternoon. The final

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Speaker 2: preseason game is Thursday night at home against Indy. Kickoff

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Speaker 1: Of the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time for this week's fun Facts conversation, where

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Speaker 2: you get to know the person under the pads. Time

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Speaker 2: for some fun facts with a Bengals rookie who has

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Speaker 2: the most difficult last name to spell since Shushman Zada,

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Speaker 2: Mumma Jong Meta.

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Speaker 1: How did I do good? I said it?

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Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, you said it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's all right.

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Speaker 2: I want to start with your parents, who sound like

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Speaker 2: pretty remarkable people. Your mom was a Fulbright scholar, which

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Speaker 2: is extremely prestigious. Both of your parents have PhDs, which

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Speaker 2: is obviously an extremely high level of academic achievement. What

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Speaker 2: do you admire and respect about your folks?

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Speaker 8: My dad has three masters?

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Speaker 9: Just the record fell out the record. No, what do

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Speaker 9: I admire and respect them? About my parents? I mean

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Speaker 9: they are great people. Also just the it's nasty and

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Speaker 9: the perseverance to.

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Speaker 8: Leave their country at a young age.

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Speaker 9: I mean a little bit about them. So they were

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Speaker 9: from Cameroon, but just because of the political socioeconomic situation

477
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Speaker 9: in Cameroon, as someone who's English speaking, so it's there's

478
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Speaker 9: English speaking and French speaking people. Just the schools aren't

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Speaker 9: as welcoming for Uncle Phone people in Comeroon. So they

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Speaker 9: went to Nigeria. So they left, They left their family,

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Speaker 9: They went to Nigeria, a different country for university, and

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Speaker 9: I think that was when they're eighteen nine ten. From

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Speaker 9: that point on, they were pretty much on their own.

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Speaker 9: My dad's dad died when he was super young. He

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Speaker 9: was the first in his household. My mom's dad died

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Speaker 9: when she was also pretty young. She's the first in

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Speaker 9: her household. So they were just, I mean, trailblazers their

488
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Speaker 9: whole life. Went to Nigeria, got their degrees, came back.

489
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Speaker 9: My dad was like, Okay, I'm going to Liverpool to

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Speaker 9: get my PhD. While my mom was raising me and

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Speaker 9: my brother. At some point, you know, she gets breast cancer.

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Speaker 9: She's applying for full Bite. She beats cancer the first time,

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Speaker 9: accepts the full Bright scholarship to Texas.

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Speaker 8: A and m moves us, my dad, all.

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Speaker 9: Of us across the world, goes into remission, she's doing

496
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Speaker 9: her PhD, finishes her PhD, beats cancer the second time.

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Speaker 9: My dad's supporting us with his university job that pays nothing.

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Speaker 9: And then like they are trailblazers to the max. And

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Speaker 9: so like you know, I play art sport, we play

500
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Speaker 9: hard sport. There's a lot that goes into it. There's

501
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Speaker 9: a lot of you know everything, great diversity, but like,

502
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Speaker 9: was it really you know, what's that adversity I faced

503
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Speaker 9: in this sport compared to what they really had to do.

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Speaker 9: People ask if I had to bet on myself as

505
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Speaker 9: an undrafted guy. I did, But they had to bet

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Speaker 9: them on themselves to move across the world. You know,

507
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Speaker 9: we had a really nice life over there, and they

508
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Speaker 9: they put that on pause almost through it a way

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Speaker 9: for something better, for a better investment. And so they,

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Speaker 9: my parents are remarkable people and I owe a lot

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Speaker 9: of who I am to them and honestly to my

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Speaker 9: older brother too, who who has shaped me into the

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Speaker 9: man I am today.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been back to Cameroon?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: So, like I said, I was born there, went there

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Speaker 9: again in twenty twelve and haven't been back since. There's

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Speaker 9: a civil war right now, unfortunately, so I have not

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Speaker 9: been back since.

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Speaker 2: Because it's safe to assume that grades came first in

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Speaker 2: the Jong Meta household.

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Speaker 9: Grades came first. Grades came first. If you want to

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Speaker 9: go see your friends, what are grades looking like? At

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Speaker 9: one point, my dad was uh telling me that, hey,

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Speaker 9: if you you know, you get a C minus and

526
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Speaker 9: ap COWC, you're we're gonna quit football. You know, we're

527
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Speaker 9: gonna turn your cleats. And so, I mean, it was

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Speaker 9: always grades first, and it was hard then, but you

529
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Speaker 9: know now you look back and it's just like they

530
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Speaker 9: were just trying to teach me the important and priorities

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Speaker 9: and what's really important.

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Speaker 8: And uh, I mean obviously it worked out. You know,

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Speaker 8: if I had gotten that sea and I had to

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Speaker 8: quit football, let's suck. No, that would really suck. But

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Speaker 8: you know, it motivated me and got to B minus.

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Speaker 8: So grades always came first, for sure.

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Speaker 2: We're visiting with Bouma Jong Matta. Unlike most of your

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Speaker 2: Bengals teammates, you did not grow up with a football

539
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Speaker 2: in your hands. How and when did you get involved

540
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Speaker 2: with this sport?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, freshman year of high school got involved. You know,

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Speaker 9: we had a uh, basically we had this I went

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Speaker 9: to a really big high school, right four thousand kids,

544
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Speaker 9: and so as part of the transition from eighth grade

545
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Speaker 9: to ninth grade, they had they would always do like

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Speaker 9: these symposiums pretty much just like kids know, like hey,

547
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 9: this was with the squad to offer, and so they

548
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Speaker 9: sent some kids from the high school to my junior

549
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 9: high to do an art symposium, like completely random. And

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Speaker 9: one of the kids there was names cam Green. He

551
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Speaker 9: uh he they had just won state and basketball. They

552
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 9: had just won state in football and basketball, and he

553
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Speaker 9: was on both teams. He had his letterman on and

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Speaker 9: I saw him from Afar. I was like, man, I

555
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 9: thought he was the Closes dude. But I was like, man,

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Speaker 9: I want to be like him.

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Speaker 8: Seriously, no jokes, something as simple as that.

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Speaker 9: You know, if he hadn't taken art as a just

559
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 9: an easy credit his senior year, like maybe I wouldn't

560
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Speaker 9: be playing football.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't wearcket.

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Speaker 9: Or yeah, if you didn't whar the letter you know,

563
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Speaker 9: if he was just a guy like no letterman jacket.

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Speaker 8: You know who knows if I'm playing football?

565
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Speaker 9: So now, but I saw him from Afar and I

566
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Speaker 9: was like, man, I want you know, that's the type

567
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Speaker 9: of dude, I want to be like so, and that

568
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Speaker 9: that moment, that day, that small day, led me on

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Speaker 9: this nine year plus journey.

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Speaker 8: And it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Once you started playing, what about this sport captivated you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 9: The first thing was I wasn't very good at it,

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Speaker 9: and that that was like frustrating because it was like

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Speaker 9: I should be like I get my butt kicked, I

576
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 9: feel like I'm getting the hang of this, but I'm

577
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Speaker 9: so I'm still sucking. And I think that's really what

578
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Speaker 9: it was. So like I was drawn for like maybe

579
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Speaker 9: some more superficial reasons, but what kept me going was

580
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Speaker 9: just the ability to get better like that, just the

581
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Speaker 9: chase of like, Okay, all right, I'm working on this.

582
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Speaker 8: I'm working on this.

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Speaker 9: Okay, boom, it's shown up. All right, cool, now I'm

584
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Speaker 9: working on this. I'm working on this. There was a camaraderie,

585
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Speaker 9: the team aspect of it, Like there's very like, I

586
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 9: don't know, team sports are awesome.

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Speaker 8: You know.

588
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Speaker 9: I did discus in high school, and there's a team

589
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Speaker 9: element to that, but like you're the one in the ring,

590
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 9: you know, and the team element comes out when maybe

591
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 9: your points come together for the team. But like it's

592
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Speaker 9: a solo sport. I've done solo sports, but I love

593
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 9: team sports. I love team sports. There's nothing like them.

594
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 9: The camaraderie, the brotherhood, the development of the men, you know,

595
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Speaker 9: to the man I became and becoming as I played

596
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 9: the sport, and the longer I played, the more I

597
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 9: realized how much football was like life. You know, so

598
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 9: many of the things you see in football happen in life,

599
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 9: and and.

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Speaker 8: The lessons are there.

601
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Speaker 9: You just have to look a little closer to see him,

602
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 9: and closer I looked them, I was like, man, this

603
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 9: there's nothing like the sport.

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Speaker 8: So it's a blessing to be here. I'm very excited.

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Speaker 2: You went to high school in the Chicago area. You

606
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: excelled on the field and in the classroom, and at

607
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Speaker 2: the end of your high school career, the Ivy League

608
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 2: schools came calling, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, et cetera. Considering your parents'

609
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Speaker 2: academic achievements. Did they push you toward the IVY League?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 9: One thing I love about my parents, they never really

612
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Speaker 9: pushed me for football. There's they actually pushed me against

613
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 9: the like we don't know if we don't know, if.

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Speaker 8: This is the answer. And then you know what. You know,

615
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Speaker 8: once college was free, They're like, all right, we're good

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Speaker 8: for it. No, I mean.

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Speaker 9: They were like, yeah, go wherever makes you happy. And

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Speaker 9: you know, I ended up being Wisconsin, which was a

619
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Speaker 9: great decision.

620
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Speaker 8: I loved. I loved Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: And a great school. You spent five years there. What

622
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Speaker 2: was your favorite part of your college experience?

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Speaker 8: Oh, my goodness, this is a whole other interview.

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Speaker 9: Wisconsin is an amazing place because it's like it's it's

625
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Speaker 9: kind of the epitome of what I think. Like I

626
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 9: don't know, I think what college should be. It's like

627
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 9: work hard, play hard. That's how I am. They kids

628
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Speaker 9: over there are so smart. I mean I remember.

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Speaker 8: So there's that. There's that. There's the it's two hours

630
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Speaker 8: away from my house.

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Speaker 9: So like so many of my so so many high

632
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 9: school KI went there, but like not too many where

633
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 9: it felt like.

634
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 8: I was in high school.

635
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Speaker 9: But like enough where you walk around you're seeing, oh,

636
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Speaker 9: you're running to people like you haven't seen it in

637
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 9: a while. So I have friends who like we go

638
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 9: out together. You know, they were in Greek life and

639
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 9: maybe I'm going out once a week and they're telling

640
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 9: me stories of throughout Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

641
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Speaker 8: I'm like, oh my goodness.

642
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 9: And then final this time came around and U and

643
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 9: they started talking about school. I'm like, okay, like what

644
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 9: are you studying?

645
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 8: We're going down the line. One of them is a

646
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Speaker 8: biomedical engineer.

647
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 9: One of them's uh, one of them is neurobiology. One

648
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 9: of them this, that, this, and this was, uh this

649
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 9: was my girl group friend my girl friend group. So

650
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 9: like they were all in the sororities and they were

651
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 9: like active in Greek life and partying and doing this,

652
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 9: and it was like like that was what Wisconsin was like,

653
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 9: super smart kids who were down a good time to

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00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 9: have a good time, but who were also about their

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Speaker 9: business and it was a great combination.

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Speaker 8: Loved it there.

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Speaker 1: Some kids can pull it off. That wasn't a lot

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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 2: So, following a great career with the Badgers, you weren't

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Speaker 2: selected in this year's draft, but it sounds like the

661
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: Bengals made it clear for months that they would be

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Speaker 2: interested in signing you as a college free agent.

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Speaker 9: Was that the case, Yeah, I I caught me by

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Speaker 9: surprise the Bengals, you know, so you know, my agent's like, yeah,

665
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 9: some teams just like the stand of the radar. You know,

666
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 9: I spoke with them. I spoke with them at the

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Speaker 9: Hula Bowl. I think I spoke with them at the

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Speaker 9: East West Ron game. I spoke with Ronnie Ragula like

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Speaker 9: maybe two weeks before the draft.

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Speaker 5: That was it.

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Speaker 9: But they didn't seem any more interested or less interested

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00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 9: than any other team. So it's kind of surprised when

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00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 9: I got the call, but I was. It was like

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00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 9: a pleasant surprise. I love Cincinnati into a ton of

675
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 9: Reds games. I'm a baseball fan now because of them.

676
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 8: I love the.

677
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 9: Vibes of the city. The locker room culture here is unreal.

678
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 9: The linebacker room is great Logan Jermaine, Akeem Joe. I

679
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 9: mean the great guys have learned from Like there's a lot,

680
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 9: uh you know, great pieces on the offense and defense

681
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 9: like this is. There's so much going for this team

682
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 9: that I love that. I'm just blessed to be here

683
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 9: every day.

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Speaker 8: So I was kind of guarded when they called me,

685
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Speaker 8: but I was like, let's go, let's ride.

686
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Speaker 2: So we're chatting the moment, Jong Meta. In your preseason debut,

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00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: you led the team with ten tackles and two pass deflections.

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00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Did you feel like you showed you belong.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's an interesting question. I feel like I feel

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00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 8: like you know.

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00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 9: I think, first of all, it is a blessing to

692
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 9: play well on Saturday, Like that's awesome.

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Speaker 8: Anytime you play well, it's like a great feeling.

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Speaker 9: But also there's a realization that you know, it's about

695
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 9: the body of work. You know, no one remembers the

696
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 9: one hit Wonders. You know, a bunch of songs that

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00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 9: I've listened to from artists where man, it's only that's

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00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 9: the only song, Like it was cool back back then,

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Speaker 9: But what about now, you know? And what I mean

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00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 9: by that is it was great to play well, But

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00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 9: at the end of the day, what can I do

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00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 9: to continue to add? You know, I think you show

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00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 9: that you belong not by what you do on any

704
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 9: one day, but what you do over.

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Speaker 8: The course of time.

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00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 9: And my whole mindsett since I got here in April

707
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 9: or May or it's felt like I've been here for

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00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 9: a year. But try I belong every day by my preparation,

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00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 9: how I take care of my body, you know, how

710
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 9: I am in the meeting rooms, what the vets you're doing,

711
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 9: I'm doing. I'm taking care of my You know I

712
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 9: already said I but I'm taking care of my body

713
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 9: before after practice, like all those things. In my mind

714
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 9: is showing that I belong in great to go out

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Speaker 9: there and play really well.

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Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, it's what have

717
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 8: I been doing in practice?

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00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 9: What I have I been doing in OTAs, in training camp,

719
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 9: all that stuff. I think it's the body of work

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00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 9: that contributes to that.

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Speaker 2: You're an Eagle Scout, meaning you earned at least twenty

722
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: one merit badge. Is what does rank of Eagle Scout

723
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Speaker 2: represent to you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

725
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 9: Scout is trustworthy, loyal, honest, helpful, friendly, kind, courageous, obedient, cheerful, brave, thrifty,

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00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 9: and reverent.

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00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 9: So we used to recite that all the time. But no,

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00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 9: I mean being an Eagle Scout was is cool. My

730
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 9: dad said it would help me get in college.

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00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 8: Football helped me get into college.

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Speaker 9: But the skills I learned boy scouts, I think actually

733
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 9: have transferred into the type of person I am today

734
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 9: and the leader I am just because in boy scouts

735
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 9: are dealing with all types of people and trying to

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00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 9: combine together for one common goal, sort of like football,

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00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 9: except the things that keep people together in football are

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00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 9: slightly different than the things that keep people together in

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00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 9: a boy Scout unit. But I loved my experience there

740
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 9: and I love camping now because of it. Then, yeah,

741
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 9: random fun the fact I tell people like some of

742
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 9: my teammates have.

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00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 8: Kids, I'm like, how mean babysit for you? I'm an

744
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 8: eagle scout like I have that going for me. So no, yeah,

745
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 8: that's something I did in my past life.

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Speaker 2: You majored in business with a focus in finance, banking

747
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: and investment. Do you know what you would like to

748
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: do after football?

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00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, hopefully in you know, fifteen twenty.

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00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 9: No, I'm gonna go the next chance I get, you know,

751
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 9: hopefully next offseason or whenever the time comes. I'm gonna

752
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 9: finish my masters. I have one more semester left my

753
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 9: master's in the finance, and then probably pursue that route,

754
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 9: do some some on that end.

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00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: Final fun fact for Muma Jong Matta, This one's kind

756
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: of deep. If you could meet anyone in history, living

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00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: or deceased, who would that person be?

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00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 8: Oh uh, probably Jesus.

759
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 9: And then if I could like be like your phone

760
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 9: a friend, like get Buddha, get Buddha on the line. Yeah,

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00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 9: I mean definitely been growing in my faith probably yeah,

762
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 9: since honestly since college.

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Speaker 8: So I'd love to meet Jesus. Uh and then maybe

764
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 8: a nonspiritual answer.

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00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 9: No, I'm gonna submit that. That's my final answer, Jesus and then.

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Speaker 2: Buddh And it's a very good answer. I appreciate your time.

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00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: Hope you have another great game this week and best

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00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: of luck in the future.

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Speaker 8: Appreciate you, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Booma has done very well in the first two preseason

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Speaker 2: games as he looks to earn a spot on the

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Speaker 2: fifty three man roster or the Bengals sixteen man practice squad.

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