Speaker 1: What's up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck That with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses Malone.
Speaker 2: So you got two Latto winners in close proximity to
Speaker 2: each other trying to simultaneously hunt the other one down.
Speaker 1: How do you think they won the same numbers? Again?
Speaker 2: I think they both have. They're from the same area,
Speaker 2: same interests, same traditions, same shit. I think they walked
Speaker 2: in and said, I want my lucky numbers here at
Speaker 2: the six lucky numbers, and they both got the same
Speaker 2: six numbers. I think it's more likely that than they
Speaker 2: just randomly spun the same ones.
Speaker 1: My thought is somebody told somebody to get their lottery
Speaker 1: numbers here to play my numbers, and they went to numbers,
Speaker 1: and they felt they didn't go play the numbers, so
Speaker 1: they went to play themselves. So I think it's probably
Speaker 1: the winner of the Both winners are out the same
Speaker 1: exact household, the same person.
Speaker 2: Very likely. That makes it even more chaos. That's almost
Speaker 2: like a domestic grudge death match.
Speaker 1: I was reading this crazy story today and there was
Speaker 1: a lady who got a tip. She was in the
Speaker 1: South and somebody tipped her ten million dollars. No, they
Speaker 1: tipped her a lottery ticket.
Speaker 2: Didn't make a movie out of that with Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. But she won the lottery.
Speaker 1: She they tipped her a lottery ticket and the ticket
Speaker 1: hit for ten million. Yeah, and she took the ten million.
Speaker 1: And then first her coworkers, her co people, was like, well,
Speaker 1: we split the tips, and we split the tips, and
Speaker 1: so they tried to see her and it did work. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then the person who actually gave her the ticket. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess they was joking. She like, well, if I hit,
Speaker 1: I'll buy you a truck or either. He said to
Speaker 1: her when he tipped her the ticket. If you hit,
Speaker 1: you gotta buy me a truck, and she was like okay.
Speaker 1: So he tried to sue her.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: He tried to sue her and it didn't work. And
Speaker 1: then the husband kidnapped her, who had just got a
Speaker 1: fresh divorce, kidnapped her to try to get it, and
Speaker 1: she ended up getting a gun and shooting a husband.
Speaker 2: Wow. That's an that's one too. That's that's a more
Speaker 2: interesting movie because something like that happened in the movie,
Speaker 2: but it was in like New York at a diner
Speaker 2: and some lady won off of a tipped ticket or
Speaker 2: some nonsense, and it was just kind of like, mom,
Speaker 2: come but that that that ain't.
Speaker 1: No rom com No. This is thea read between reading
Speaker 1: that and living today. I was just thinking to myself, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I do this life sober.
Speaker 2: Yeah, find it a little unsettling.
Speaker 1: And I used to think to myself, I don't know
Speaker 1: how everybody else is drinking and smoking weed and shit.
Speaker 1: I used to think everybody else is crazy. But as
Speaker 1: I get older, I'm starting to believe I'm the crazy
Speaker 1: motherfucker for doing this life sober.
Speaker 2: Or what's in the red cuptain water? Oh yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I think that. I don't think that you're sober for
Speaker 2: being the or you're crazy for being the sober one.
Speaker 2: I think crazy lends itself to you being the sober one, elaborate, elaborate,
Speaker 2: like I think you have to be crazy to want
Speaker 2: to soak it all in and make sure you don't
Speaker 2: miss anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: like you feel everything, you see everything, to always be
Speaker 1: aware and conscious is crazy, like everything and I think
Speaker 1: things that other people use to get by, because I
Speaker 1: think the things that other people use to get by,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, with weed or alcohol or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like I get it now, I really fucking get it.
Speaker 1: Because I was talking a head about it earlier and
Speaker 1: I was like, he was what it got to be arrogant.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why would you think it's arrogance that we
Speaker 1: don't drink or smoke like that. He's like, well, because
Speaker 1: it's like we believe we could deal with it. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't think I ever thought about
Speaker 1: it like that. I just thought about it in a
Speaker 1: sense that, you know, he referenced seeing people throwing up
Speaker 1: on a curve. I was like, well, I've seen people
Speaker 1: be buzzed, and I wouldn't go to the exaggeration. I'm
Speaker 1: worried about throwing up as much as as much as ah,
Speaker 1: like just poisoning myself, throwing off my equilibrium at all
Speaker 1: for any reason.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: So that that became the main thing, Like I just
Speaker 1: never thought about it, like and then every time.
Speaker 2: It costs no benefit proposition, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Don't get the benefit. Like to me, these are normal.
Speaker 1: It's like most people talk about normal functions, achieving normal
Speaker 1: functions through assistance. Right, They'll be like, or I want
Speaker 1: to relax, I'm like relax or you know, like if
Speaker 1: you meet a girl. It's weird. You'll meet a girl
Speaker 1: and she's not trying to use some pussy, but she's
Speaker 1: at the board drinking, Like you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: why are you lower your inhibitions if your goal is
Speaker 1: not to have lowered inhibitions? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it
Speaker 1: just it gets crazier and crazier every time.
Speaker 2: That's true. I don't know personally, I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess like through time, people who drink like the cope
Speaker 2: and shit like that. Seems like I know a lot
Speaker 2: of more people who smoke weed the cope.
Speaker 1: You know, like.
Speaker 2: Because I've always equated it, like I don't drink that
Speaker 2: much anymore, like in frequency or volume. But there's people
Speaker 2: I know that like through their day, they you know,
Speaker 2: got to hit the when I get up before work,
Speaker 2: on a break at work, lunch, after work, before they
Speaker 2: go to bed, it's like five times. Like if I
Speaker 2: had a cocktail five times a day, every single fucking day,
Speaker 2: I'd walk into an intervention at some point, Like I
Speaker 2: don't I don't know. That's kind of like my my
Speaker 2: weed curses, Like like that's a lot, you know, like
Speaker 2: you can't make it three four hours. You just go
Speaker 2: to work and sit in a cubicle.
Speaker 1: How did you start drinking?
Speaker 2: My best friend growing up was the youngest of like
Speaker 2: four so and by by a margin, he was what
Speaker 2: some might call a change of life baby, others might
Speaker 2: call an accident. So his older brothers that he looked
Speaker 2: up to a lot, like when he was younger, they
Speaker 2: were like, like we were in grade school, they were
Speaker 2: like in college doing the fraternity thing or whatever else.
Speaker 2: The time we were in high school, they were in there,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, fucking mid late twenties whatever, They're
Speaker 2: out and going to bars when I was kind of
Speaker 2: junk whatever. So I started drinking with him one time
Speaker 2: on a vacation. I went on a vacation with his
Speaker 2: family once, and I didn't think a lot of it.
Speaker 2: At some point in time in high school, around eleventh grade.
Speaker 2: I was from about the eleventh grade through at the
Speaker 2: time I was like twenty to twenty, I drank a lot,
Speaker 2: Like seventeen to twenty, I drank a lot twenty one
Speaker 2: to twenty three, I drank less, but there were still
Speaker 2: some frequent, like gargantuan consumption moments, you know. After that,
Speaker 2: I really you know, if I get drunk drunk, it
Speaker 2: might be once a year maybe, And it just happened randomly.
Speaker 1: So so your partner turn you on, hold up, no seilings,
Speaker 1: g L my man Peter in the house. So your
Speaker 1: partner introduce you to drinking.
Speaker 2: That's correct. It wasn't like I hadn't heard of it.
Speaker 1: Sure, But I'm saying, but the first time I drank,
Speaker 1: do you remember what it was?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was a beer beer? Remember what kind of beer?
Speaker 1: But h so, what did you start drinking after that?
Speaker 2: Whatever we had after that? I didn't start really discerning
Speaker 2: any kind of alcohol until I had to become responsible
Speaker 2: for getting it myself. Then I it just it went
Speaker 2: from whatever got handed to me to well, now since
Speaker 2: I have to make the decision, you know.
Speaker 1: So, how the fuck did you start drinking a lot
Speaker 1: between seventeen and twenty and nobody noticed?
Speaker 2: I don't know if nobody noticed, but like, how do
Speaker 2: you mean?
Speaker 1: Like how was you going home drinking a lot? Like
Speaker 1: how was you going home your your mom and dad, sister?
Speaker 1: How you going home if you're drinking a lot. Younger
Speaker 1: people can handle liquor better.
Speaker 2: Oh, they bounced back faster. Hangover is not a big deal.
Speaker 2: When you're younger, handle it better. No, But I've I
Speaker 2: only got caught coming home drunk once, and it was
Speaker 2: so stupid because I think my parents didn't think I
Speaker 2: was going to drink and drive, and a lot of
Speaker 2: the time I didn't, but a lot of the time
Speaker 2: I did too, So it depended.
Speaker 1: On how I Quite a lot of the times you didn't.
Speaker 1: A lot of times you did, yeah, meaning it was
Speaker 1: a mixed bag.
Speaker 2: But the nights when I didn't, I would still drive
Speaker 2: and leave the house, but I would drive around the
Speaker 2: corner and get my friend's car. So the time that
Speaker 2: I got caught coming home driving drunk, I had driven
Speaker 2: one hundred feet. I just came around a corner like this,
Speaker 2: stopped for like the other side of the neighbor's house.
Speaker 1: So at that point, why the fuck was you even
Speaker 1: driving to move.
Speaker 2: The car back? So it looked like I didn't. I
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to go out and drink like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, so there was that Imagine you seventeen to twenty,
Speaker 1: you for sure wouldn't be old go out and drink
Speaker 1: like that, folks.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, so this Also they had a house with
Speaker 2: two stories, so like my bedroom had like a balcony thing,
Speaker 2: so I could get out and come back in through there.
Speaker 2: That happened a lot.
Speaker 1: When the fuck you get out through the balcony, fucking
Speaker 1: spider man up? You ever climbed up drunk?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you're a fail close But no, what the
Speaker 1: fuck was you climbing to climb up to the balcony?
Speaker 1: You got a ladder out there?
Speaker 2: No, it's funny. They had a little retaining wall kind
Speaker 2: of thing by like the pool filter shit, So I
Speaker 2: could hop up onto that and jump from that and
Speaker 2: catch that and pull myself up onto the next thing
Speaker 2: and then just go over the rail and walk in
Speaker 2: the door.
Speaker 1: White life is just white life is fucking hella, like
Speaker 1: how most met like general pop the people feel about,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up in the ghetto. That's how I
Speaker 1: feel about Like when you hear about white life, I
Speaker 1: mean not white life like ghetto, because I get how
Speaker 1: trailer trash white life can go, but regular and yeah,
Speaker 1: like saved by the bell of white life Kelly Zach
Speaker 1: and Slater. White life it's almost like that's not real
Speaker 1: to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of bilateral disconnect.
Speaker 1: It's like the first time I started hanging out in
Speaker 1: Lakewood and you start meaning like go to people house.
Speaker 1: I remember one of my child friends, he became a
Speaker 1: police officer. He was a little older than us. I think.
Speaker 1: I went to our teaching my freshman year in Lakewood,
Speaker 1: and they used to have a park across street called
Speaker 1: Palm's Park, and it was cool. I was super good
Speaker 1: at karams because obviously from the ghetto, they got carams.
Speaker 1: But I remember I used to have so many like white.
Speaker 2: Friends teacher high school.
Speaker 1: For one year, my.
Speaker 2: Friends older sister they moved. They were from South Central
Speaker 2: and that his mom moved them down to our school district.
Speaker 2: But his older sister went to ar Teaser.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ABC school district. I got a's and shit
Speaker 1: and I had thirty six tarties. So they pulled my permit,
Speaker 1: send my eyes right back to Compton, like you're not going.
Speaker 1: This ain't happening, And my mom ended up getting me
Speaker 1: a pair of my high school because they still had
Speaker 1: She wouldn't let me go to Compton Lock Geordan, like
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to the schools that you know
Speaker 1: we grew up because it's all your friends go there,
Speaker 1: but they didn't have ap class the school.
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on if you are your MoMA's
Speaker 2: your dad's, Like what school would have been your school?
Speaker 1: Well, at my mom, I was Conter High that was
Speaker 1: literally like four minutes away. At my dad house, it
Speaker 1: would have probably been the ten, which that would have
Speaker 1: been weird. Yeah, it would have been ten to ten
Speaker 1: or Locked or maybe lynd Will because a lot of
Speaker 1: the older Humies went to land Wood too that was closed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't understand like how that school disrect
Speaker 2: is sports because obviously Compton unified its own thing. You're
Speaker 2: on the LA side, you know. So you got l
Speaker 2: USD address.
Speaker 1: Yep, right, because you so in wats right, you got
Speaker 1: Jordan right by the Jordan Downs. You got Locked, You
Speaker 1: got Centennial because Centennial's is in Los Angeles too. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I know it seemed like it's in Comptant, but it
Speaker 1: gets freaky when you get over Well, I think no,
Speaker 1: Centennial is in Compton.
Speaker 2: Still, yeah, I swear that it is.
Speaker 1: But it would have been one of those schools. But
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to those schools because that's where
Speaker 1: everybody you know went to school. Yeah, yeah, Centennia is
Speaker 1: at Compton, so soon as you cross over, that was
Speaker 1: a good though. Yeah, so it would have been one
Speaker 1: of those schools do Mingas. Maybe my mom wasn't going
Speaker 1: for that. They had no AP classes. She was like
Speaker 1: that ship out the Mingas. She none of those schools
Speaker 1: had the AP classes. There was no chance she was
Speaker 1: letting me go to school without being in an advanced placement.
Speaker 1: That just wasn't gonna happen. But yeah, I used to
Speaker 1: notice that, and so I got a chance to hang
Speaker 1: around that kind of environment for about a good months
Speaker 1: and just really chilling, just tripping off of it. And
Speaker 1: that's how I knew it was real because before that,
Speaker 1: you know, Compton and watching you think Comptonent watches the
Speaker 1: whole world like everywhere is like this. Some people don't
Speaker 1: have money, some people on drugs. You go to Lakewood,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody pushing no damn baskets?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: You know, I mean when you and watching content, people
Speaker 1: pushing baskets, assembling all kinds of things that they could
Speaker 1: sell to try to buy some rocks, Like that was
Speaker 1: normal I think about a lot of the stuff that
Speaker 1: was normal at that time.
Speaker 2: I have to ask, sure, because the the language choice
Speaker 2: was so particular. You said assembling all kinds of things.
Speaker 2: What kind of product would a person purchased for money
Speaker 2: that had been assembled by a crackhead? What would be
Speaker 2: something that they might assemble.
Speaker 1: When I'm saying assemble, I mean gathering, right, So some
Speaker 1: people would be taking like people would be pushing grows.
Speaker 1: They used to still the grocery baskets, sure, right from
Speaker 1: the grocery store and be pushing them around a simp,
Speaker 1: like gathering things to sell. The go it so it
Speaker 1: could be something like cans, bottles. Some people would get TVs.
Speaker 1: People would do that time. They was the only flockers.
Speaker 1: Crackheads was the only flockers. It was only people breaking
Speaker 1: in people houses. Sometimes you see people with TVs radios,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times that shit to be working,
Speaker 1: like they knew the difference between junk and things that
Speaker 1: people bought.
Speaker 2: Sure, Sure, so.
Speaker 1: I used to look at them people crazy. But I'm
Speaker 1: starting to really think that I must be crazy because
Speaker 1: I don't know how I deal with this world sober
Speaker 1: Like Chuck Game is posting all these pictures of uh,
Speaker 1: what's going on and over there in Israel? M hm.
Speaker 1: You know it's people posting babies being blown up and
Speaker 1: women dead. And I was just thinking to myself, like,
Speaker 1: how am I sober looking at all this shit?
Speaker 2: It's a matter of scope, I suppose. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: tragic as a hell, But I've never I don't know
Speaker 2: as far as like the world me personally, I never blinked.
Speaker 1: M I don't think I blink. I think I see
Speaker 1: it all. But it's also why, like I'll be on
Speaker 1: my Donnie Hathaway where I'll be like, yeah, living ain't
Speaker 1: what it cracked up to be, Like, like, I have
Speaker 1: huge faith in humanity, but that's probably a big problem too.
Speaker 1: I believe in humanity and that probably is like a
Speaker 1: flaw maybe.
Speaker 2: I mean humanity cuts both ways. Humanity makes creates enormous problems,
Speaker 2: and humanity solves enormous problems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the biggest problem they ever solve? You feel, humanity?
Speaker 2: Humanity? Well, I mean the most obvious one. I mean,
Speaker 2: like they created a humanity created a clusterfuck of World
Speaker 2: War two. It also solved the same problem.
Speaker 1: You know, what's the what do you mean you solve
Speaker 1: which problem. I think humanity don't do shit but cause problems.
Speaker 1: I don't think humanity has done one good thing for
Speaker 1: the Earth.
Speaker 2: I would disagree with that, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean. I think humanity just creates problems and
Speaker 1: then solve the problems that they create, and then the
Speaker 1: problems that they solve creates even more problems.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that the fault setting is a problem.
Speaker 2: You know, if you were to go back and back
Speaker 2: and back and back in time, whether the human life
Speaker 2: expectancy probably twenty five thirty years, you will dye in
Speaker 2: all kinds of different.
Speaker 1: Ways maybe were supposed to.
Speaker 2: That's probably true. I think that there's it's like every
Speaker 2: innovation that's that's that's helped.
Speaker 1: Human being probably is worse for the Earth.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I think there's for the person.
Speaker 2: I think there is fine. The Earth's equilibrium is pretty fine.
Speaker 1: But like.
Speaker 2: The abundant, like abundance breeds abundance, and abundance breeds time.
Speaker 2: So the same ecosystem of the human mind that was
Speaker 2: able to use spare time to invent a light bulb
Speaker 2: was able to use spare time to devise eugenics. You know,
Speaker 2: time to think it's all in the mind of the thinker.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Every day I'll be disappointed cuz, yeah,
Speaker 1: that disappointing types, but I don't think it ever wasn't
Speaker 1: a disappointing time. It's also true, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: how could a place like Watts in a place like
Speaker 1: Newport Beach exists at the same time. That gotta be
Speaker 1: like a fucking flaw in a place like bell Lair
Speaker 1: in a place like Compton can exist at the same time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: think about that Bell Layer and Compton, then motherfuckers is
Speaker 1: twenty miles from each other. I think. Let me look
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, how far is Central Park West or
Speaker 2: whatever the hell from Harlem? I mean, it'sn't like Park
Speaker 2: Avenue on one side of Central Park West or I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: on one side of Central Park and then like Harlem
Speaker 2: is like basically the other side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Compton to bell Lair is nineteen miles more.
Speaker 2: Than a guess about fourteen.
Speaker 1: But how the fuck can somebody have entirely too much
Speaker 1: and then these people have entirely not enough. That gotta
Speaker 1: be like the greatest, Like that's just crap. It's nineteen
Speaker 1: miles peak. It is how could you how could you
Speaker 1: have that much? And then somebody this close could not
Speaker 1: have nearly enough and you exist peacefully.
Speaker 2: That's the last part is kind of the uh the kicker.
Speaker 2: You know, well, you know, resources can buy an awful lot.
Speaker 1: Like think about that. There's a house in bel Lairer
Speaker 1: for sale right now. Let me look at this. I
Speaker 1: was looking at a house in bel Lairer for sale
Speaker 1: right it came up in my email and there's a
Speaker 1: house in bell Layer.
Speaker 2: Think I saw something about that.
Speaker 1: It was like some kind of crazy means, like a
Speaker 1: nine figure Yeah, it was like one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: nine million dollars a twelve bedroom, seventeen bath, two acre
Speaker 1: house and bed layer. The address is twelve hundred bell Layer, Rolled,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Sky nine zero zero seven seven. The house
Speaker 1: cousin is one hundred and forty million dollars.
Speaker 2: You know what I really don't understand about that. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of surplus bathrooms in that home.
Speaker 1: It's almost like they don't want to share the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I never got that.
Speaker 2: Even I understand, Okay, we're gonna have twelve bedrooms and
Speaker 2: then twelve bathrooms.
Speaker 1: Have teams yeah, I get thirteen guess bathroom you want
Speaker 1: people in yo bath They've got.
Speaker 2: Five or six extra bathrooms. It's as if they're serving
Speaker 2: laxative in there. And you better have a bathroom close
Speaker 2: enough to in case, you know, you don't have to
Speaker 2: go down to the hall too far to the next bathroom.
Speaker 1: You never know what that was about.
Speaker 2: Oh what's going on there?
Speaker 1: But I'm looking and this is right here, and they
Speaker 1: be talking shit about these people who running in these
Speaker 1: stores taking shit.
Speaker 2: One hundred thousand is about what it's about the price
Speaker 2: of a house in Compton three to five. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: saw if we called it five, that's two hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty houses in Compton for that guy's house. That would
Speaker 2: be pretty cool. If I was going to roll up,
Speaker 2: roll up a buck forty on a property acquisition, I'd
Speaker 2: be down to buy two hundred and eighty house in Compton.
Speaker 2: They were all if they were all attacked.
Speaker 1: They but it's like the dawn payment because it's twenty
Speaker 1: eight MILLI you know, the down payment is twenty eight
Speaker 1: minutes for yeah, twenty eight million, twenty percent, and the
Speaker 1: monthly payment is one million dollars nine hundred and eighteen
Speaker 1: thousand a month. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you
Speaker 1: can even findance that for thirty years.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know at this interest rates like this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably could.
Speaker 1: Would you even want to finance that at that point?
Speaker 1: Thirty six was at one hundred, was at twelve million
Speaker 1: a year, one twenty three six, God damn three gd
Speaker 1: you've been in the house four hundred million dollars. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that type of shit make me want to drink the
Speaker 1: fact that that much house is fifteen miles away from
Speaker 1: the ghetto. It depends on which ghetto because it probably
Speaker 1: could be Like if you want the Hoovers, it's probably
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: Is it from the Jays about eighty?
Speaker 1: But the Jays is almost like a science project?
Speaker 2: How far has it been from the Harlems? About nine?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's close. The Jazz is different because the Jays
Speaker 1: is like a like a someone I sold those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that's it's gonna be over.
Speaker 2: I was trying to tell Malcolm. I was like, what
Speaker 2: you need to do, because he was all like I
Speaker 2: got a turn in the jungles. I was like, you
Speaker 2: can complaining about they suck for thirty years. It should
Speaker 2: be happy. But like I was like go get Potomac
Speaker 2: made a historical landmark site. I mean it was the
Speaker 2: culmination scene of what was that? The isn't that the
Speaker 2: first oscar to a black actor in a non supporting role? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: just go over to city Hall and get it declared
Speaker 2: historical monument. They'll do it in two seconds.
Speaker 1: And then what does that do?
Speaker 2: I can't knock it down the rest of it. They're
Speaker 2: probably knocked down, but you could at least hold down
Speaker 2: the cold set.
Speaker 1: You know what? Somebody asked me, did I think gentrification
Speaker 1: was bad? They was like, oh, guds, you don't think
Speaker 1: it's better. I'm thinking to myself, like I get it right, Like,
Speaker 1: because that's what's been That's what's happening right, These places
Speaker 1: are being gentrified. But it's like if you're not, how
Speaker 1: is it somebody could have enough fucking money to come
Speaker 1: over here and buy shit, but the people who live
Speaker 1: here don't have enough money to buy shit? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, how do you have that much
Speaker 1: money to where all these stray people could come and
Speaker 1: move into community and they got enough money to afford it,
Speaker 1: but the people right there can't afford it. And what
Speaker 1: people would like me to believe is that like a
Speaker 1: drunk mind would like me to believe that, Oh, they
Speaker 1: just didn't do anything with their life. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean the majority of the population bro as she Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's easy to lead sheep any direction you want
Speaker 1: them to go.
Speaker 2: The American perspective on wealth disparity is perceived upside down.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like looking at a forest right from
Speaker 2: eye level to the.
Speaker 1: Top I leveled to the top of what of the
Speaker 1: of the trees in the forest feet up in the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you.
Speaker 1: If the trees are fifty fifty feet.
Speaker 2: If the tree is fifty feet the average three fifty feet,
Speaker 2: you're like forty sixty feet. You can see the tops
Speaker 2: of them, but you see that they're not the same tops.
Speaker 2: I think people will look at it like who came
Speaker 2: around and knocked the tops off of all those trees
Speaker 2: that aren't as tall as that one? And the perception
Speaker 2: really is more accurately, what caused that tree to grow
Speaker 2: taller than that one?
Speaker 1: You know, you think that's the perception from who?
Speaker 2: I think that's the current, Like that's the times perception
Speaker 2: of in America of wealth di spirity. Like like the
Speaker 2: culture now looks at it as though all the trees
Speaker 2: were sixty feet and then someone came and hacked the
Speaker 2: tops off of like ninety percent of them down to
Speaker 2: forty five feet. Reality is the other ones grew taller.
Speaker 1: I don't know they might even start it taller.
Speaker 2: Trees don't start taller.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it depends, like even coming into America, it's
Speaker 1: a different set of trees. Like right, it's like slavery
Speaker 1: is not even two hundred years old, right, Like it's
Speaker 1: not that old. Right, it's this is not that old.
Speaker 1: And you like, because I don't think, I don't even
Speaker 1: want to have a conversation. I hate about Like I
Speaker 1: get the concept of the wealth disparity, wealth gap, That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about simple things
Speaker 1: like the American dreams that we sold, I mean American
Speaker 1: dream that we sold out right, which was like a
Speaker 1: place like Compton. Well, it's like the people crazy and
Speaker 1: they so a place like Compton or a place like
Speaker 1: let's say like Herssey, Pennsylvania where John his name is
Speaker 1: John Hershey, they made Hershey Company. I think it's name
Speaker 1: is John Hershey Hershey.
Speaker 2: So just out of curiosity, I had noticed at at
Speaker 2: the end of one of the famous Zapp and Roger songs,
Speaker 2: he was talking about chocolate cities, and he didn't mention Hershey, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Why is that.
Speaker 1: I have no fucking idea. I don't think they're talking
Speaker 1: about the same chocolate.
Speaker 2: Interesting. So, Milton Hershey, you might be right.
Speaker 1: Milton Hershey.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So Milton Hershey created the town that we know. It's Hershey, Pennsylvania, right,
Speaker 1: And this was kind of the traditional American idea. He
Speaker 1: had a great idea that he built factory out and
Speaker 1: then he wanted people to come work, and he had
Speaker 1: people come work, and instead of having him drive miles away,
Speaker 1: he built the town to support you know, he built
Speaker 1: the town to master the economy right where people could
Speaker 1: move into these houses and shot playing work there. That's Compton.
Speaker 1: Was the same thing like if you look down Alameda
Speaker 1: on Compton and Compton right, all these factories right now.
Speaker 1: I was talking to a politician and she was telling
Speaker 1: me that it was grandfathered in that I think forty
Speaker 1: to fifty percent of the people who worked at these
Speaker 1: factories were supposed to live in these houses. And I
Speaker 1: think that was the simplistic idea of America and It
Speaker 1: was a brilliant idea, right you people used to walk
Speaker 1: to work, you know what I mean? And what I
Speaker 1: think happened specifically in canter right as black people started
Speaker 1: to move to Compton out. It's probably a really crazy
Speaker 1: idea that they started moving there. It's something that we
Speaker 1: don't know about because they moved there and grow. But
Speaker 1: you know, and then white folks start moving out, right,
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner families in the world start moving out.
Speaker 2: Well, they had to move out for the black people
Speaker 2: to move in because the vacancies had to be created.
Speaker 1: Sure, but I think they were also building at that time.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think so. Well, and this is the thing because,
Speaker 2: like I only said it because like we've talked about
Speaker 2: one hundred times. Sure, my grandparents lived in all those
Speaker 2: same houses. They ain't built nothing new.
Speaker 1: But then what is older than Compton, Yeah, but like
Speaker 1: not by a lot.
Speaker 2: And really what late sixties, early late fifties, early sixties
Speaker 2: was when black people started to come to South California.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had been around so remember, they couldn't
Speaker 1: they couldn't remember, they couldn't really be around, right, because
Speaker 1: they did have little pockets right the place in Venice.
Speaker 1: What's that Dalton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those old big apartments, like one of the.
Speaker 1: Oldest places black people moved. So black people came to
Speaker 1: southern California before that, but I don't think they could
Speaker 1: get in the the aries like they was in Dogtown.
Speaker 2: They were in it was the fifties. That's when the fifties.
Speaker 2: When in the fifties, And that's why like the difference
Speaker 2: between well the.
Speaker 1: Projects was wasn't first for remember that was for the
Speaker 1: war people, No, Jordan Downzelea.
Speaker 2: Most of the expansions of the project was for black people,
Speaker 2: and black people were good at paper This is this
Speaker 2: littletory people. I don't think no about La Sure below
Speaker 2: the pueblos is that's black projects is below all the
Speaker 2: ones what do they call it? The I thought they
Speaker 2: called it also like dog Town or something like that.
Speaker 2: The projects by Chinatown and and then like Big Hazard
Speaker 2: and the strata courts and all those ones was are
Speaker 2: on Mexican Yeah, as I looked, I mean, I for
Speaker 2: what I read the they built all those ones up
Speaker 2: there and didn't allow black people to apply because apparently
Speaker 2: black people were very good at paperwork compared to Mexicans.
Speaker 1: So the Jordan Downs first open in May nineteen forty four.
Speaker 1: The complex was originally developed as a semi permanent housing
Speaker 1: for war workers during World War Two. In the early
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, Hacla and Damn that still around converted it
Speaker 1: to public housing. It was among the last of the
Speaker 1: public housing projects and was to be opened for that purpose.
Speaker 1: It opened in nineteen fifty five, shortly after new Mayor
Speaker 1: Norris Paulsen ended all new public housing in the city. Development,
Speaker 1: like others in the area, became partially integrated. However, its
Speaker 1: tendency its Tennessee rapidly became majority black, approaching one hundred
Speaker 1: percent by the mid nineteen sixties. This rapid change occurred
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. Many of the veterans who
Speaker 1: still lived in the projects in the early nineteen fifties
Speaker 1: moved out as they were able to purchase homes. Blacks
Speaker 1: still migrating west after the war ended gravitated excuse me,
Speaker 1: Blacks still migrating west after the war gravitated towards areas
Speaker 1: like Watts that already had sizable back populations. In addition,
Speaker 1: at least in the first decade of the post war period,
Speaker 1: restrictive covenants helped channel recent migrants into Watts and away
Speaker 1: from nearby suburban cities such as Compton.
Speaker 2: Sure yeah so.
Speaker 1: No, no, What I.
Speaker 2: Think a lot of the real initial challenges for black
Speaker 2: people in LA was the fact that they, bluntly speaking,
Speaker 2: they just got there later. Like the economic explosion that
Speaker 2: happened on the West coast, like from like nineteen forty
Speaker 2: three or four, whenever the Pacific theater machine really really
Speaker 2: ramped up, they weren't there yet. Sure, So by the
Speaker 2: time that wave crested and crashed, then they got there.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: So that's there's a big difference. And that's a huge
Speaker 2: difference in twenty.
Speaker 1: Years sure, Sure, especially around that time. But the Mexicans
Speaker 1: were here then before then, yea, because the first was Crazy.
Speaker 1: Is the first street gang in LA that's credited. Obviously
Speaker 1: that's not white people would be white fence Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been around since like the.
Speaker 2: Thirties, and it was fun. I had to look it
Speaker 2: up too, because I was such a square. But when
Speaker 2: you get off of the one on one at Normandy,
Speaker 2: because to me, fourteen means north. Sure, I kept seeing
Speaker 2: C fourteen, C fourteen all over the place. Is this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, because you can go to the north and
Speaker 2: see thirteens, you don't come to the south.
Speaker 1: Fourteen that's not happening now once you pass fresh Noo,
Speaker 1: that ain't Yeah, And.
Speaker 2: I was like, I know that is not what I
Speaker 2: am seeing. So I google what's CEE fourteen KYA fourteen
Speaker 2: and you know under like you know where the blue
Speaker 2: line turns sure above Washington. Apparently that fourteenth Street was
Speaker 2: one of the was all like one of the very
Speaker 2: all also original gangs like zoot Suit during gangs, and
Speaker 2: they the city was so vexed by the Fourteenth Street
Speaker 2: gang that they cleared them out and rezoned their neighborhood
Speaker 2: industrial so that they couldn't live there. So Kye fourteen
Speaker 2: became a nomadic gang, but they retained the name.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I know a couple of those most
Speaker 1: gangs is gonna be like that in twenty years, I mean,
Speaker 1: if they're still gangs. But I guess the point I
Speaker 1: was making is, I mean, even the whole concept of
Speaker 1: the wealth gap is it's just different.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: If you you have to really just believe that they're
Speaker 1: still a letble of you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you niggas ain't finna get no money. It's just kind
Speaker 1: of how I to go. And even certain things because
Speaker 1: I agree, like as Americans started selling the country out
Speaker 1: as a whole right to you know, they didn't want
Speaker 1: to build everything no more they want to People got greedier.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that's the correct way
Speaker 1: to put it, but to me, that's what it's about.
Speaker 1: People got greedier right where they started building everything overseas
Speaker 1: or cheaper.
Speaker 2: They didn't get greater. They got lazier. And I don't
Speaker 2: mean the workers, I mean the leaders. Sure you got
Speaker 2: to a point where you had a generation of innovators
Speaker 2: that created an explosion of growth in the USA. Coustume
Speaker 2: those were not people who got MBAs at Ivy League schools.
Speaker 2: That's true, they were really they were replaced not by
Speaker 2: innovators but by managers. What do managers know how to do?
Speaker 2: Very little? They know how to do one thing, cut cost.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to come up with a new idea.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to streamline this better. What can
Speaker 2: we do cut cost? We gotta our projections for next
Speaker 2: year got to be better than they were for last year.
Speaker 2: We can't make any more profit unless we cut costs.
Speaker 2: Because we can't put out a product that is innovative
Speaker 2: enough to justify raising the price. We got to hold
Speaker 2: the price, compete against that guy and cut costs. What's
Speaker 2: that guy doing the same old dumb ass shit we're doing.
Speaker 2: He's cutting costs, So we got to cut cost so
Speaker 2: we can have our margin and not get priced out
Speaker 2: of the marketplace by that guy and have no new ideas.
Speaker 2: There's no innovation, no growth, no nothing. All they can
Speaker 2: do is figure out a way to get it done
Speaker 2: cheap or elsewhere. That's a huge problem in the US economy.
Speaker 2: So Ray Crock, Ray Kroc, who's Ray.
Speaker 1: Krock, guy who took over McDonald's from Ray mac ray
Speaker 1: mac when Ray is Richard and Maurice.
Speaker 2: Make that would have been the guy who was played
Speaker 2: in that movie by Michael Keaton. Yes, no, he was
Speaker 2: an innovator.
Speaker 1: What the fuck did he innovate? He wasn't no fucking innovator.
Speaker 1: He's a fucking manager. He literally cut all the calls.
Speaker 1: He's reason why all the burgers tastes like shit. He's
Speaker 1: the reason why the fucking drink is made out of
Speaker 1: powdered milkshake. He's the reason that quality goes down the drain.
Speaker 2: Sure, the quality went down the drain, but the business
Speaker 2: growth didn't grow down the drain. He streamlined the system, and.
Speaker 1: He system to be streamlined.
Speaker 2: He didn't out, he didn't say, he didn't walk into
Speaker 2: a bunch of He didn't find a mature entity, a
Speaker 2: mature thing and start taking people out of it.
Speaker 1: Of course he did. He took the owners who understood
Speaker 1: quality and what made the business thrive. Right, he understood
Speaker 1: the quality of the business was so high that he
Speaker 1: could shrink it down further and further to allow it
Speaker 1: to spread. Like, but but.
Speaker 2: It did though, So what like what how many people
Speaker 2: did McDonald's employed when he got there versus when he left?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it also depends on like like right, it's like.
Speaker 2: Like in comparison to Ford during the time when McDonald's
Speaker 2: employed one hundred x in a growth curve. Oh sure
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, I'm saying I'm sorry, hundred said hundred times.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the first time. So I'm saying, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it wasn't as many. So yeah, he took
Speaker 1: it ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so more locations, more employees more.
Speaker 1: Or whatever at the expensive quality, though.
Speaker 2: Sure Ford also at the expensive quality.
Speaker 1: Reduce their employment in America. Yes, yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of the same thing. I understand the
Speaker 1: concept of employment in America, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: we're talking about, right, somebody like Ford, So you feel
Speaker 1: like that's the responsible. Some asshole just came in, like
Speaker 1: this is how we're gonna maximize profit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. I mean it's rampant throughout all sorts
Speaker 2: of verticals of commerce.
Speaker 1: And you think this is because uh, the Ford, Henry
Speaker 1: Ford was like he was pretty much done, and this
Speaker 1: is somebody taking over. Yeah, because like what happened to
Speaker 1: make because what's happening with in and Out could be
Speaker 1: happening with McDonald's. But because again they went after kind
Speaker 1: of the global look at the expense of having something
Speaker 1: that benefit human beings to it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be You're right, I can't be too hasty because it
Speaker 1: does employ American people and people around the world. But
Speaker 1: I think that's the problem. I think when we keep
Speaker 1: exchanging quality right for the sake of growth, and I
Speaker 1: think that's still triggered by greed.
Speaker 2: I think it depends on the kind of growth. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think what you.
Speaker 1: Know, because by the say standard, like the person who
Speaker 1: made the move for four it could be considered a
Speaker 1: global hero, right because they created more opportunities in China,
Speaker 1: created more opportunities in Mexico and everywhere else except America.
Speaker 2: We brought more people out of poverty in China than
Speaker 2: our breathing air in America.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: That happened for sure, you know. So yeah, it all
Speaker 2: does depend to scale, you know. And I was talking
Speaker 2: about the other day with somebody, like if you were
Speaker 2: to say the square this average square footage of an
Speaker 2: average house and an average town and an average income,
Speaker 2: the triangulate all the averages you can find on that
Speaker 2: house in nineteen fifty eight, you know, the arrow and everything.
Speaker 2: Everybody had everything. Whatever the fuck there was family of
Speaker 2: four or five, you know whatever it was with one
Speaker 2: small house and one car and one TV. Now that
Speaker 2: experience is three cars, five TVs, four cell phones, internet cable,
Speaker 2: all this sudd of shit TV was freeze the radio.
Speaker 2: I mean there's like I don't know what what's the
Speaker 2: what's the note on whatever the fuck house on a
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty thousand dollars house in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Shit, that's probably a mansion in Indianapolis. I mean the
Speaker 1: note is probably, I don't know, twenty eight six twenty
Speaker 1: six did right there? About twenty six twenty seven something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you start adding in more cars and
Speaker 2: cell phones and internet and cable and whatever the fuck else,
Speaker 2: that those numbers almost match.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, what are you saying?
Speaker 2: I'm saying, there's two things happening simultaneously. You have an
Speaker 2: increase in the standard expectation.
Speaker 1: That has a standard of existent living.
Speaker 2: The standard of the expectation has outpaced like on you know,
Speaker 2: the in the median side has has outpaced median income
Speaker 2: by a lot, like the price I just saw a
Speaker 2: price breakdown by an economist of like the time price
Speaker 2: to buy a house now, I mean the amount of
Speaker 2: hours of work that you could buy at a again
Speaker 2: median income for median house. The house has grown. So
Speaker 2: you're getting a better, bigger house for less hours work
Speaker 2: today than was required to do so in like nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty right from a price per square foot standpoint.
Speaker 1: Sure, even though it's a piece of shit house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only one, the new one is the old
Speaker 2: one is. But the piece of shit built in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one is better than a piece of shit built
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm I'm a hand on that one.
Speaker 2: That's yeah. I mean you go look because the house
Speaker 2: built in nineteen sixty one's on hir ruin Central. Those
Speaker 2: houses knocked down you tip mote if you hit him
Speaker 2: hard enough.
Speaker 1: Oh no, there's some pretty ship the miles are some
Speaker 1: ship ones right there. They built them upfuckers out of brick.
Speaker 2: Oh they didn't bring Those houses are built out of
Speaker 2: dry wall. And as best us, you die a living
Speaker 2: one of those houses.
Speaker 1: That's a push, go ahead.
Speaker 2: But anyhow, the difference is also everything I said before.
Speaker 2: The regular costs to do everything else are three hundred
Speaker 2: a month for your family's cell phone bills. But even
Speaker 2: seven eight nine thousand dollars for a month.
Speaker 1: That's a push though, because you're saying without the electives
Speaker 1: of life, the extras, then it's said, would be livable.
Speaker 1: Fuck No, let me ask you this, okay, because okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's go back to that same house. Let's let's
Speaker 1: go to a house in Indianapolis right now, where would
Speaker 1: there even be a mass place to work to earn
Speaker 1: twenty seven hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 2: A month is nothing. That's thirty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: That's something like, where the fuck are you gonna get
Speaker 1: thirty thousand? McDonald's barely pay thirty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Do it even pay thirty thousand dollars a year? What
Speaker 1: is McDonald's minum wage? Fifteen dollars a hour fifteen times
Speaker 1: for six hundred, six hundred, twelve hundred, whatch you bringing
Speaker 1: on eight fifty? Everybody in the house got to work
Speaker 1: to pay that bill. That's shit crazy, Like, okay, right,
Speaker 1: if it's fifteen dollars times forty, that's six hundred times
Speaker 1: two to twenty.
Speaker 2: But that's but you're mismatching. Now, that's like a median
Speaker 2: house in the area versus the most the one percentile income.
Speaker 2: Your median income is like fifty.
Speaker 1: Right, median income is fifty.
Speaker 2: Average income is fit to a median house to match
Speaker 2: the meeting, But.
Speaker 1: Where is the median income fifty thousand dollars at Who
Speaker 1: the fuck is making fit? And this is what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: back to the original point that I'm saying, like there
Speaker 1: is nowhere to work in it. Okay, think about how
Speaker 1: few jobs is in the community, right, Like, I know
Speaker 1: you've been around a little bit, you know what's up.
Speaker 1: The jobs to me that make that kind of money
Speaker 1: are the jobs that are not there anymore. I mean, right,
Speaker 1: So if you didn't go to school, you don't go
Speaker 1: to college, right, Lord knows if you can afford college.
Speaker 1: But if you didn't go to college, how the fuck
Speaker 1: do you make? Fifty thousand dollars a year? Sixty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Trained jobs make more than that what trained.
Speaker 1: Jobs is available.
Speaker 2: If you pull up this is what we're saying.
Speaker 1: This Ford left the country.
Speaker 2: This is well, I mean, like right now there is
Speaker 2: a massive drought for a lot of basic skilled labor electricians, plumbers,
Speaker 2: all that kind of shit, mechanics, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It said, that's that's it said.
Speaker 2: That's it's a shortage for sure, major shortage nationally. Its regional.
Speaker 2: So like and the thing I think with Watts almost
Speaker 2: give credit WATS is transiend. In nineteen seventy Watts was
Speaker 2: like seventy five percent black and twenty five percent Mexican.
Speaker 2: Now it's the other way around. So less black people
Speaker 2: were fucking the Mexicans came out.
Speaker 1: People left, Nah, they got priced out. They didn't just leave.
Speaker 1: The prices really start slipping up, probably in the in
Speaker 1: the late two thousands. I remember that, Like I remember
Speaker 1: growing up right, hustling, selling drugs and shit. You can
Speaker 1: buy a house in Watch for fifty thousand.
Speaker 2: What year would you say, wats stopped being seventy percent black?
Speaker 1: Probably too, Well, that changed. But I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: why that changed.
Speaker 2: I'm only using the race thing because to identify you, not.
Speaker 1: Even race, because Mexicans wouldn't be a race, that'd just
Speaker 1: be white people.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying because if it was all black people,
Speaker 2: I couldn't keep track of who's moving in and out.
Speaker 1: Sure, uh, probably became fifty to fifty in two thousand
Speaker 1: and four.
Speaker 2: Like nineteen ninety. I don't know Tistically, I don't think
Speaker 2: the census number.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I don't even think
Speaker 1: that's true because the projects wasn't fifty fifty. Projects wasn't
Speaker 1: fifty fifty in nineteen ninety for sure.
Speaker 2: No, But but I do.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, when I saw it was fifty five, well,
Speaker 1: I looked and I was on the seven and fifty
Speaker 1: percent of the people in the house at this point
Speaker 1: was Mexican. Now this is probably twenty nineteen, nine nine,
Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand. I'm looking like, okay, every
Speaker 1: other house is somebody from Mexico or somebody else that
Speaker 1: speaks Spanish.
Speaker 2: Sure that's about a generation. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: But but what happened is right, is as the houses
Speaker 1: started to change pricing. It wasn't like people just left
Speaker 1: and then people moved in, right, Like some people left
Speaker 1: because they felt like there was no opportunity. Sure, right,
Speaker 1: so there's like, let me go get some opportunity, and
Speaker 1: then I do agree. Right, you may have had somebody
Speaker 1: that you know from you know, Mexico and below, you know,
Speaker 1: South America moving in multiple families.
Speaker 2: You know, it was just kids from Mexican parents and
Speaker 2: long bea shouldn't have shit else going on, or had
Speaker 2: a small, shittier job, and they moved to watch because
Speaker 2: they just could afford it to watch. Nah.
Speaker 1: Nah, nah. It was people who didn't even speak English. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was definitely people you know coming across and ship
Speaker 1: and getting those properties. But see, it didn't used to
Speaker 1: be like now when I'm in the sixties, it's fifty percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See Watts has always been hell of multicultural, Like even
Speaker 1: if it was seventy five to twenty five, they probably
Speaker 1: was a little bit more than that because I could
Speaker 1: always remember when I'm at my dad house, Mexican people
Speaker 1: being there. Like I think my older homies may remember
Speaker 1: a time of watch was like one hundred percent, but
Speaker 1: I ain't never in my life.
Speaker 2: So the East side has always been Grandma friend the
Speaker 2: thirties and they.
Speaker 1: Wasn't even a black family giged people.
Speaker 2: For a long time and watches right next to the
Speaker 2: south gates.
Speaker 1: So that's natural exactly. So something else is happening, Pete, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's as simple as people are moving
Speaker 1: out and other people are moving in. I think there
Speaker 1: is a target. I think there's a reason people move here, right,
Speaker 1: And it's like with gentrification, right, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: mass movement of people. Like it's not as simple as like,
Speaker 1: oh you know what people like. Like even when I
Speaker 1: was in Content the other day, I went to a
Speaker 1: cook's corner. I think that's the name of the barbecue spot.
Speaker 1: Got the name of the barbacue spot.
Speaker 2: But that's not the barbecue. Remember I brought a bunch
Speaker 2: of barbecue content up here at one time.
Speaker 1: I don't know was it was it was it was
Speaker 1: it at a Dolley truck.
Speaker 2: There was a little, a small little restaurant. It was
Speaker 2: almost I think it was near churches.
Speaker 1: Like this place is fire. Oh, hold on, we call
Speaker 1: this motherfucker Mannica.
Speaker 2: Oh the we can't call in a barbecue address. In
Speaker 2: the middle of the podcast, everybody to stop us.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna fucking stop us?
Speaker 2: This is the most important thing we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 2: Exact opinion, quite frankly, exactly.
Speaker 1: I need to know about this je Manny Manny from
Speaker 1: as Boys fucking worldwide. What's the name of that barbecue
Speaker 1: spot in Compton you send me to? That was really good?
Speaker 1: That got the big dinosaur ribs in Comton. Oh, kitchen corner,
Speaker 1: Kitchen corner right back, So I was in k I was.
Speaker 1: I went to kitchen Corner the other day and I
Speaker 1: look and really, now, like you're right, Compton is probably
Speaker 1: like you know, Compton for sure would be like eighty percent.
Speaker 1: But I think that's the problem, right. I think what's
Speaker 1: happening is is there's a gentrification, right a thing happening.
Speaker 1: These These are conversations that's happening, even if we're not
Speaker 1: a part of them, Like even if they're not mainstream conversations,
Speaker 1: if everybody don't know about the conversations, these conversations Pete
Speaker 1: is happening, and these places are being targeted specifically for
Speaker 1: certain moves of economic growth, like even a gentrification that's
Speaker 1: not an accident.
Speaker 2: I'll talk about that's on the bar side. You're not
Speaker 2: gonna want to hear it. Sure, I'll preface it with
Speaker 2: a quote from Jamaica Andres because he came from Jamaica
Speaker 2: in the in the country and it was in the Bronx,
Speaker 2: and he's very critical, as a lot of people from
Speaker 2: the islands are when they come to the States. He
Speaker 2: would say, you know how I can always tell what
Speaker 2: houses the Jamaica's wearing in the Bronx. How's that because
Speaker 2: the lawn was cut and they had flowers in the
Speaker 2: front yard. That's his words, not mine.
Speaker 1: But the I get it, I get it right, because
Speaker 1: even even though that's a bit ridiculous, but I get
Speaker 1: what he's saying. Yeah, it's sure, Sure, it's a loose
Speaker 1: it's a loose idea it's a loose concept because there's
Speaker 1: black people who manicure their nons, but I know what
Speaker 1: he's talking about. Yeah, But but also it's different when
Speaker 1: you you come from a fucking third world country, right,
Speaker 1: and then you come to Compton or you come to
Speaker 1: the Bronx, you know what I mean. Like it's like
Speaker 1: when people say, oh, well, Mexican people come to Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and it's like they like they gonna do nigga. They
Speaker 1: come from somewhere. Nigga's no roofs on the property. They
Speaker 1: come from somewhere. It's like a different level of poverty.
Speaker 1: So even at that starting point, it's still better than
Speaker 1: where they started at. It ain't like we're getting the
Speaker 1: It ain't like the Wilbors people from Jamaica's coming here.
Speaker 2: But that's not that matters, poet. But I mean, at
Speaker 2: the same time, you also if you came from nineteen
Speaker 2: fifties rural Mississippi or rural Louisiana, that's like modern day
Speaker 2: Jamaica poor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but those people come and that's why if you
Speaker 1: look at certain houses in one eleven, one eleven is
Speaker 1: uh or how would I reference that to you? Imperial?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Imperial and van Is those houses, uh Compton, if you
Speaker 1: go to those older people houses that came from the south,
Speaker 1: look at their fucking house. They have those manicure lines,
Speaker 1: the grass they are, but them ain't that ain't the
Speaker 1: same house that Jamaican Andre and their family had in Jamaica.
Speaker 1: Ain't have no fucking lines manicured and no motherfucking flowers
Speaker 1: over there, just like the people of Mexico that come here, right,
Speaker 1: the homies and shit different people I fuck with, They
Speaker 1: didn't have fucking manicured lines and flowers in fucking Mexico Vans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that far different people from like Danker
Speaker 2: and one hundred.
Speaker 1: And third, Danker and one hundred and third, thanking one
Speaker 1: hundred third, like one of the.
Speaker 2: Hood streets and the hundreds. That's pretty damn close.
Speaker 1: A mundid and third. But it is different, right because
Speaker 1: if you okay, I agree, right, because okay, I see
Speaker 1: you're talking about Yeah, so some of those people, all
Speaker 1: of those people aren't the people that came here originally
Speaker 1: and bought those houses, right, some of those people if
Speaker 1: you look at certain houses on those blocks, right, like
Speaker 1: if you go in the sixties, if you go on
Speaker 1: the hundreds and dinker in one hundred and third is
Speaker 1: what is it?
Speaker 2: I think that's like Hoover, that's hundreds that danker between
Speaker 2: Western and Normandy.
Speaker 1: I said, none is that fot? Yeah okay, so yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the hundreds. Wait a minute, man, that's wes Okay,
Speaker 1: one elevens. If you go to those houses, right, you
Speaker 1: go to any of those houses, it's going to be
Speaker 1: people that own that property since the fifties and sixties.
Speaker 1: That's why it looks like that. It's not the children,
Speaker 1: it's not the people who ended up on crack. It's
Speaker 1: not none of those people, because remember these neighborhoods were
Speaker 1: all nice at a time unless somebody's parents was going
Speaker 1: through it. But it's a hard competition to compete with
Speaker 1: somebody who comes from a third world country and then
Speaker 1: has opportunity at this. Even how they look at it
Speaker 1: is completely different. How they see it is completely different,
Speaker 1: like like what's going on in watch right now? Ever,
Speaker 1: since they sold the projects, you started to see white people.
Speaker 1: You in comp you started to see Asian people. I
Speaker 1: remember the only Asian people in the Compton Dog was one.
Speaker 2: Of the projects they saw.
Speaker 1: I know, right, it's some crazy shit.
Speaker 2: Oh with like the little mall over there.
Speaker 1: No, they sold the projects to who.
Speaker 2: Is the new Jordan Down Developments.
Speaker 1: No, it's you gotta look it up. It's some crazy shit, right.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying even when you on crench y'all right,
Speaker 1: like where where the low riders park at on the boulevard,
Speaker 1: Like with a Weani situation, I've seen a man, a
Speaker 1: white man, running his dog with little shorts.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So again it's these are not like, oh you know what,
Speaker 1: let me find somewhere to move. I'm gonna go down here.
Speaker 2: I mean it's ten times worse than like the north
Speaker 2: side of avenues that like twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Ago were like side news. What's the north side like.
Speaker 2: You know, like Mount Washington. If you go up the
Speaker 2: one tenth north of day downtown, you get like at
Speaker 2: like North Avenue forty three.
Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about like neor Pasadena. That that part
Speaker 1: of La Yeah that's not but that part of La
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean that's like it was hood as fuck up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that been gentrified for a good twenty years now.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's like it's it's like that
Speaker 2: it's you know, say, from a time span standpoint, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, but I think whole generations.
Speaker 1: Sure, but I digress. I think the point I'm saying
Speaker 1: is it makes it when we don't take care of
Speaker 1: each other as a society, right, Like Americans don't take
Speaker 1: care of Americans as a society. Right. This is where
Speaker 1: you have those problems. The fact that bel Air is
Speaker 1: right there and this is right here, right, that's what
Speaker 1: fucks it up. I think that's what makes people even
Speaker 1: more crazy than everything. How could somebody be ten miles
Speaker 1: and a half in time too much? Somebody ten miles
Speaker 1: have entirely not enough. That's just fucking crazy, Pete. Now,
Speaker 1: I think it was even the concept of the wealth gap, right.
Speaker 1: I think Henry Ford was an innovator. I do think,
Speaker 1: you know, Milton Herstey was an innovator. But they cared
Speaker 1: about other human beings to some degree, even when it
Speaker 1: came in America to see their dreams.
Speaker 2: Because the builder is that guy like that's that's one
Speaker 2: of my top criticisms of I'm not saying one of
Speaker 2: my top this is gonna sound wrong, but from an
Speaker 2: economic in the economic conversation, sure, the problem in the
Speaker 2: economic conversation, just so we're clear with slavery was most
Speaker 2: innovation and growth comes from hands on workers.
Speaker 1: Right, that's fair. The way you could take more cotton,
Speaker 1: you pick more cotton you have to get or you're
Speaker 1: working on the machine had plantation.
Speaker 2: No shit. But if you have the freedom to implement
Speaker 2: an idea to make something happen more efficiently, that's going
Speaker 2: to happen from the person who's doing it all day long.
Speaker 2: It's not going to happen from another guy, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Ninety nine percent of the time, I agree.
Speaker 2: So that's why you see, like the South was sparse
Speaker 2: concentrations of ultra wealth and then mass poverty, and in
Speaker 2: the aggregate, the South was way more poor than the
Speaker 2: North because.
Speaker 1: Even had wealthy people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because their whole working class of people that was
Speaker 2: slaves were not allowed to implement human thought. So they're
Speaker 2: just doing work frozen like cryogenically frozen in time.
Speaker 1: Sure, if they how they started is how they had
Speaker 1: to finish.
Speaker 2: If you had, however, many million people working on a
Speaker 2: task in an industry commercial vertical for fifty years in
Speaker 2: year fifty in year one, that industry wouldn't even resemble itself.
Speaker 1: Sure, normally, but usually you would have took the it
Speaker 1: have took how to make it happen faster when less people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some guy would work at a place, he'd go
Speaker 2: you know, they're slow at this. I can do it better.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go across the street, start a small shop,
Speaker 2: do it faster, build and compete against them. Or they
Speaker 2: would just implement the thing, get a raise, whatever the fuck,
Speaker 2: and shit just happens. I mean, there's no there's not
Speaker 2: an example in which that's not really true, even agriculture now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying, what's the point of even doing
Speaker 1: it with slavery. I'm sure some of the slaves came
Speaker 1: up with better ideas, but I guess like you might
Speaker 1: be getting too many ideas, nigg You might think you
Speaker 1: could be free nicks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, and how many of them
Speaker 2: are gonna say, oh, hey, uncle Bill, this is a
Speaker 2: faster way to do this. Yeah. Well, I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: Bill runs the place. You're Bill's nephew, Uncle Bill.
Speaker 1: I got an idea.
Speaker 2: What if he do is? Where'd you come with that idea? Oh?
Speaker 2: That slave guy over there top that he's smarter than
Speaker 2: you probably not going to have that conversation.
Speaker 1: M hm. So then it has to be something as
Speaker 1: simple as greed. It cannot just be.
Speaker 2: There's there's a problem. There is an inherent just one thing.
Speaker 2: There's an inherent issue with the arc of like wealth
Speaker 2: growth when.
Speaker 1: It goes from you know what happened, and I'm not
Speaker 1: to cut you off. Wealth went from just wealth used
Speaker 1: to be more than just money. It used to be
Speaker 1: like a connection to community, a connection to humanity, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like back in the day, it
Speaker 1: was wealth meant more than just I have entire too
Speaker 1: much money. It also meant I had the affection of
Speaker 1: human beings.
Speaker 2: It was tied to productivity. You know what the largest
Speaker 2: deal is.
Speaker 1: Ford really not still producing or is it just productivity
Speaker 1: based off.
Speaker 2: Between the Ford Motor Co Company, Inc? And for the
Speaker 2: guy sure, guy running for a CEO now not named
Speaker 2: for it. Sure, I don't have to even even have
Speaker 2: to look at it. No, But like talk about if
Speaker 2: like you know what the biggest industry in the world
Speaker 2: is currency exchange.
Speaker 1: Currency exchange make the most money with the money is
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If they make the most money, but it's seven trillion
Speaker 2: dollars plus per day in global currency exchange. That's not production.
Speaker 2: Hiring somebody to come in and be hiring a room
Speaker 2: of five hundred analysts to scrutinize where you can save
Speaker 2: a nickel. That's not production. Paying somebody half a million
Speaker 2: dollars a year to be in house counsel to stave
Speaker 2: off some sort of stupid whatever the fuck slip and
Speaker 2: fall lawsuit that you're gonna face. For Christ knows, what
Speaker 2: is not production. Being in some sort of private equity
Speaker 2: subsidized bizarre matrix where you're just running free money around
Speaker 2: because interest rates were at one percent for twenty years,
Speaker 2: or because we've now subsidized big banks as being too
Speaker 2: big to fail so that they don't even understand risk
Speaker 2: components in the economy. There's no growth because there's no failure.
Speaker 2: You've subsidized failure out of existence. You have an enormous
Speaker 2: class of wealthy Americans that get money and produce nothing.
Speaker 2: That's the disconnect.
Speaker 1: How are these people getting more wealthy without producing anything? Today?
Speaker 2: Manipulation you don't think, and hyperregulation, I mean, what do
Speaker 2: you do now? Like like you're ex company and you're
Speaker 2: now the biggest company in your field in America or
Speaker 2: the world. What's your top priority. It's lobbying barriers of
Speaker 2: entry and barriers of competition from anybody else to knock
Speaker 2: you off the top. It's not trying to create a
Speaker 2: better product anymore. You pivot. Why do you pivot because
Speaker 2: you have new rooms of leaders who run out of ideas,
Speaker 2: but they don't want to lose their seat on the
Speaker 2: top of the mountain. So instead of you can't climb
Speaker 2: up any further, all you can do is prevent anybody else.
Speaker 2: Like that's the story. Like California right now makes sense.
Speaker 2: California matured into the fifth largest economy in the world
Speaker 2: by itself. You can't build here, Like how many people
Speaker 2: are billionaires in California from real estate development? That's like
Speaker 2: most other than the tech people who are also completely
Speaker 2: invested in an anti competitive environment. There's no competition for Apple,
Speaker 2: there's no competition for Google. And then take Donald Brinn
Speaker 2: of the Irvine Company out of Orange County or Caruso,
Speaker 2: the developer in La what do they do. They just lobby.
Speaker 2: They lobby for anything good. No, they lobby for exemptions
Speaker 2: and carve outs out of massive blanket regulations that prevent
Speaker 2: anybody from building anything except for them. That's why Caruso
Speaker 2: is always running for some sort of fucking office. That's
Speaker 2: why he's always in politics. Why you're always in politics?
Speaker 2: All you do is build shopping malls. All you can't
Speaker 2: build a shopping mall if you aren't in politics. Fuck
Speaker 2: part of the economy? Is that?
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