WEBVTT - Replay* Conversations While Sober

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<v Speaker 1>What's up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck That with your

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<v Speaker 1>loaw glasses Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got two Latto winners in close proximity to

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<v Speaker 2>each other trying to simultaneously hunt the other one down.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think they won the same numbers? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they both have. They're from the same area,

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<v Speaker 2>same interests, same traditions, same shit. I think they walked

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<v Speaker 2>in and said, I want my lucky numbers here at

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<v Speaker 2>the six lucky numbers, and they both got the same

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<v Speaker 2>six numbers. I think it's more likely that than they

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<v Speaker 2>just randomly spun the same ones.

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<v Speaker 1>My thought is somebody told somebody to get their lottery

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<v Speaker 1>numbers here to play my numbers, and they went to numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>and they felt they didn't go play the numbers, so

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<v Speaker 1>they went to play themselves. So I think it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the winner of the Both winners are out the same

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<v Speaker 1>exact household, the same person.

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<v Speaker 2>Very likely. That makes it even more chaos. That's almost

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<v Speaker 2>like a domestic grudge death match.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading this crazy story today and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lady who got a tip. She was in the

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<v Speaker 1>South and somebody tipped her ten million dollars. No, they

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<v Speaker 1>tipped her a lottery ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't make a movie out of that with Nicholas Cage.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. But she won the lottery.

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<v Speaker 1>She they tipped her a lottery ticket and the ticket

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<v Speaker 1>hit for ten million. Yeah, and she took the ten million.

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<v Speaker 1>And then first her coworkers, her co people, was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we split the tips, and we split the tips, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they tried to see her and it did work. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the person who actually gave her the ticket. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they was joking. She like, well, if I hit,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll buy you a truck or either. He said to

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<v Speaker 1>her when he tipped her the ticket. If you hit,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta buy me a truck, and she was like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So he tried to sue her.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>He tried to sue her and it didn't work. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the husband kidnapped her, who had just got a

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<v Speaker 1>fresh divorce, kidnapped her to try to get it, and

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<v Speaker 1>she ended up getting a gun and shooting a husband.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. That's an that's one too. That's that's a more

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<v Speaker 2>interesting movie because something like that happened in the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was in like New York at a diner

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<v Speaker 2>and some lady won off of a tipped ticket or

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<v Speaker 2>some nonsense, and it was just kind of like, mom,

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<v Speaker 2>come but that that that ain't.

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<v Speaker 1>No rom com No. This is thea read between reading

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<v Speaker 1>that and living today. I was just thinking to myself, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I do this life sober.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, find it a little unsettling.

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<v Speaker 1>And I used to think to myself, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how everybody else is drinking and smoking weed and shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to think everybody else is crazy. But as

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<v Speaker 1>I get older, I'm starting to believe I'm the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucker for doing this life sober.

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<v Speaker 2>Or what's in the red cuptain water? Oh yeah, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that. I don't think that you're sober for

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<v Speaker 2>being the or you're crazy for being the sober one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think crazy lends itself to you being the sober one, elaborate, elaborate,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think you have to be crazy to want

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<v Speaker 2>to soak it all in and make sure you don't

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<v Speaker 2>miss anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you feel everything, you see everything, to always be

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<v Speaker 1>aware and conscious is crazy, like everything and I think

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<v Speaker 1>things that other people use to get by, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think the things that other people use to get by,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, with weed or alcohol or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I get it now, I really fucking get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was talking a head about it earlier and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, he was what it got to be arrogant.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why would you think it's arrogance that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't drink or smoke like that. He's like, well, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like we believe we could deal with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I don't think I ever thought about

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. I just thought about it in a

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<v Speaker 1>sense that, you know, he referenced seeing people throwing up

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<v Speaker 1>on a curve. I was like, well, I've seen people

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<v Speaker 1>be buzzed, and I wouldn't go to the exaggeration. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>worried about throwing up as much as as much as ah,

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<v Speaker 1>like just poisoning myself, throwing off my equilibrium at all

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<v Speaker 1>for any reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that became the main thing, Like I just

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<v Speaker 1>never thought about it, like and then every time.

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<v Speaker 2>It costs no benefit proposition, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get the benefit. Like to me, these are normal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like most people talk about normal functions, achieving normal

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<v Speaker 1>functions through assistance. Right, They'll be like, or I want

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<v Speaker 1>to relax, I'm like relax or you know, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you meet a girl. It's weird. You'll meet a girl

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<v Speaker 1>and she's not trying to use some pussy, but she's

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<v Speaker 1>at the board drinking, Like you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you lower your inhibitions if your goal is

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<v Speaker 1>not to have lowered inhibitions? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 1>just it gets crazier and crazier every time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. I don't know personally, I mean, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess like through time, people who drink like the cope

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<v Speaker 2>and shit like that. Seems like I know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of more people who smoke weed the cope.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I've always equated it, like I don't drink that

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<v Speaker 2>much anymore, like in frequency or volume. But there's people

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<v Speaker 2>I know that like through their day, they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>got to hit the when I get up before work,

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<v Speaker 2>on a break at work, lunch, after work, before they

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<v Speaker 2>go to bed, it's like five times. Like if I

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<v Speaker 2>had a cocktail five times a day, every single fucking day,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd walk into an intervention at some point, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't know. That's kind of like my my

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<v Speaker 2>weed curses, Like like that's a lot, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>you can't make it three four hours. You just go

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<v Speaker 2>to work and sit in a cubicle.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you start drinking?

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<v Speaker 2>My best friend growing up was the youngest of like

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<v Speaker 2>four so and by by a margin, he was what

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<v Speaker 2>some might call a change of life baby, others might

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<v Speaker 2>call an accident. So his older brothers that he looked

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<v Speaker 2>up to a lot, like when he was younger, they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, like we were in grade school, they were

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<v Speaker 2>like in college doing the fraternity thing or whatever else.

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<v Speaker 2>The time we were in high school, they were in there,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, fucking mid late twenties whatever, They're

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<v Speaker 2>out and going to bars when I was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>junk whatever. So I started drinking with him one time

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<v Speaker 2>on a vacation. I went on a vacation with his

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<v Speaker 2>family once, and I didn't think a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point in time in high school, around eleventh grade.

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<v Speaker 2>I was from about the eleventh grade through at the

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<v Speaker 2>time I was like twenty to twenty, I drank a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>Like seventeen to twenty, I drank a lot twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty three, I drank less, but there were still

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<v Speaker 2>some frequent, like gargantuan consumption moments, you know. After that,

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<v Speaker 2>I really you know, if I get drunk drunk, it

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<v Speaker 2>might be once a year maybe, And it just happened randomly.

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<v Speaker 1>So so your partner turn you on, hold up, no seilings,

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<v Speaker 1>g L my man Peter in the house. So your

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<v Speaker 1>partner introduce you to drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct. It wasn't like I hadn't heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, But I'm saying, but the first time I drank,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It was a beer beer? Remember what kind of beer?

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<v Speaker 1>But h so, what did you start drinking after that?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever we had after that? I didn't start really discerning

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of alcohol until I had to become responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for getting it myself. Then I it just it went

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<v Speaker 2>from whatever got handed to me to well, now since

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<v Speaker 2>I have to make the decision, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So, how the fuck did you start drinking a lot

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<v Speaker 1>between seventeen and twenty and nobody noticed?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if nobody noticed, but like, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how was you going home drinking a lot? Like

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<v Speaker 1>how was you going home your your mom and dad, sister?

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<v Speaker 1>How you going home if you're drinking a lot. Younger

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<v Speaker 1>people can handle liquor better.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they bounced back faster. Hangover is not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're younger, handle it better. No, But I've I

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<v Speaker 2>only got caught coming home drunk once, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>so stupid because I think my parents didn't think I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to drink and drive, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the time I didn't, but a lot of the time

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<v Speaker 2>I did too, So it depended.

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<v Speaker 1>On how I Quite a lot of the times you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times you did, yeah, meaning it was

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<v Speaker 1>a mixed bag.

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<v Speaker 2>But the nights when I didn't, I would still drive

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<v Speaker 2>and leave the house, but I would drive around the

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<v Speaker 2>corner and get my friend's car. So the time that

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<v Speaker 2>I got caught coming home driving drunk, I had driven

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred feet. I just came around a corner like this,

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<v Speaker 2>stopped for like the other side of the neighbor's house.

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<v Speaker 1>So at that point, why the fuck was you even

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<v Speaker 1>driving to move.

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<v Speaker 2>The car back? So it looked like I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't allowed to go out and drink like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so there was that Imagine you seventeen to twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>you for sure wouldn't be old go out and drink

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<v Speaker 1>like that, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, so this Also they had a house with

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<v Speaker 2>two stories, so like my bedroom had like a balcony thing,

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<v Speaker 2>so I could get out and come back in through there.

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<v Speaker 2>That happened a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>When the fuck you get out through the balcony, fucking

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<v Speaker 1>spider man up? You ever climbed up drunk?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, you're a fail close But no, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck was you climbing to climb up to the balcony?

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<v Speaker 1>You got a ladder out there?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's funny. They had a little retaining wall kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing by like the pool filter shit, So I

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<v Speaker 2>could hop up onto that and jump from that and

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<v Speaker 2>catch that and pull myself up onto the next thing

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<v Speaker 2>and then just go over the rail and walk in

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<v Speaker 2>the door.

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<v Speaker 1>White life is just white life is fucking hella, like

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<v Speaker 1>how most met like general pop the people feel about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, growing up in the ghetto. That's how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel about Like when you hear about white life, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean not white life like ghetto, because I get how

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<v Speaker 1>trailer trash white life can go, but regular and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like saved by the bell of white life Kelly Zach

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<v Speaker 1>and Slater. White life it's almost like that's not real

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<v Speaker 1>to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of bilateral disconnect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the first time I started hanging out in

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<v Speaker 1>Lakewood and you start meaning like go to people house.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember one of my child friends, he became a

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<v Speaker 1>police officer. He was a little older than us. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to our teaching my freshman year in Lakewood,

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<v Speaker 1>and they used to have a park across street called

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<v Speaker 1>Palm's Park, and it was cool. I was super good

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<v Speaker 1>at karams because obviously from the ghetto, they got carams.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember I used to have so many like white.

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<v Speaker 2>Friends teacher high school.

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<v Speaker 1>For one year, my.

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<v Speaker 2>Friends older sister they moved. They were from South Central

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<v Speaker 2>and that his mom moved them down to our school district.

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<v Speaker 2>But his older sister went to ar Teaser.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the ABC school district. I got a's and shit

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<v Speaker 1>and I had thirty six tarties. So they pulled my permit,

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<v Speaker 1>send my eyes right back to Compton, like you're not going.

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<v Speaker 1>This ain't happening, And my mom ended up getting me

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of my high school because they still had

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<v Speaker 1>She wouldn't let me go to Compton Lock Geordan, like

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go to the schools that you know

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<v Speaker 1>we grew up because it's all your friends go there,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't have ap class the school.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it depends on if you are your MoMA's

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<v Speaker 2>your dad's, Like what school would have been your school?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at my mom, I was Conter High that was

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<v Speaker 1>literally like four minutes away. At my dad house, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have probably been the ten, which that would have

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<v Speaker 1>been weird. Yeah, it would have been ten to ten

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<v Speaker 1>or Locked or maybe lynd Will because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the older Humies went to land Wood too that was closed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I don't understand like how that school disrect

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<v Speaker 2>is sports because obviously Compton unified its own thing. You're

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<v Speaker 2>on the LA side, you know. So you got l

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<v Speaker 2>USD address.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, right, because you so in wats right, you got

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan right by the Jordan Downs. You got Locked, You

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<v Speaker 1>got Centennial because Centennial's is in Los Angeles too. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it seemed like it's in Comptant, but it

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<v Speaker 1>gets freaky when you get over Well, I think no,

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<v Speaker 1>Centennial is in Compton.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, yeah, I swear that it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But it would have been one of those schools. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go to those schools because that's where

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<v Speaker 1>everybody you know went to school. Yeah, yeah, Centennia is

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<v Speaker 1>at Compton, so soon as you cross over, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a good though. Yeah, so it would have been one

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<v Speaker 1>of those schools do Mingas. Maybe my mom wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>for that. They had no AP classes. She was like

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<v Speaker 1>that ship out the Mingas. She none of those schools

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<v Speaker 1>had the AP classes. There was no chance she was

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<v Speaker 1>letting me go to school without being in an advanced placement.

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<v Speaker 1>That just wasn't gonna happen. But yeah, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>notice that, and so I got a chance to hang

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<v Speaker 1>around that kind of environment for about a good months

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<v Speaker 1>and just really chilling, just tripping off of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I knew it was real because before that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Compton and watching you think Comptonent watches the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world like everywhere is like this. Some people don't

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<v Speaker 1>have money, some people on drugs. You go to Lakewood,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't nobody pushing no damn baskets?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean when you and watching content, people

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<v Speaker 1>pushing baskets, assembling all kinds of things that they could

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<v Speaker 1>sell to try to buy some rocks, Like that was

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<v Speaker 1>normal I think about a lot of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>was normal at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to ask, sure, because the the language choice

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<v Speaker 2>was so particular. You said assembling all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of product would a person purchased for money

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<v Speaker 2>that had been assembled by a crackhead? What would be

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<v Speaker 2>something that they might assemble.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm saying assemble, I mean gathering, right, So some

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<v Speaker 1>people would be taking like people would be pushing grows.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to still the grocery baskets, sure, right from

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery store and be pushing them around a simp,

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<v Speaker 1>like gathering things to sell. The go it so it

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<v Speaker 1>could be something like cans, bottles. Some people would get TVs.

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<v Speaker 1>People would do that time. They was the only flockers.

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<v Speaker 1>Crackheads was the only flockers. It was only people breaking

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<v Speaker 1>in people houses. Sometimes you see people with TVs radios,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times that shit to be working,

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<v Speaker 1>like they knew the difference between junk and things that

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<v Speaker 1>people bought.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Sure, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to look at them people crazy. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting to really think that I must be crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I deal with this world sober

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<v Speaker 1>Like Chuck Game is posting all these pictures of uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on and over there in Israel? M hm.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's people posting babies being blown up and

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<v Speaker 1>women dead. And I was just thinking to myself, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how am I sober looking at all this shit?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a matter of scope, I suppose. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>tragic as a hell, But I've never I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>as far as like the world me personally, I never blinked.

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<v Speaker 1>M I don't think I blink. I think I see

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<v Speaker 1>it all. But it's also why, like I'll be on

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<v Speaker 1>my Donnie Hathaway where I'll be like, yeah, living ain't

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<v Speaker 1>what it cracked up to be, Like, like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>huge faith in humanity, but that's probably a big problem too.

0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:55.199
<v Speaker 1>I believe in humanity and that probably is like a

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<v Speaker 1>flaw maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean humanity cuts both ways. Humanity makes creates enormous problems,

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<v Speaker 2>and humanity solves enormous problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's the biggest problem they ever solve? You feel, humanity?

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<v Speaker 2>Humanity? Well, I mean the most obvious one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like they created a humanity created a clusterfuck of World

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<v Speaker 2>War two. It also solved the same problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what's the what do you mean you solve

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<v Speaker 1>which problem. I think humanity don't do shit but cause problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think humanity has done one good thing for

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>I would disagree with that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean. I think humanity just creates problems and

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<v Speaker 1>then solve the problems that they create, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>problems that they solve creates even more problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that the fault setting is a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you were to go back and back

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<v Speaker 2>and back and back in time, whether the human life

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<v Speaker 2>expectancy probably twenty five thirty years, you will dye in

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of different.

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<v Speaker 1>Ways maybe were supposed to.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably true. I think that there's it's like every

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<v Speaker 2>innovation that's that's that's helped.

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<v Speaker 1>Human being probably is worse for the Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that. I think there's for the person.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is fine. The Earth's equilibrium is pretty fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But like.

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<v Speaker 2>The abundant, like abundance breeds abundance, and abundance breeds time.

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<v Speaker 2>So the same ecosystem of the human mind that was

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<v Speaker 2>able to use spare time to invent a light bulb

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<v Speaker 2>was able to use spare time to devise eugenics. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>time to think it's all in the mind of the thinker.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. Every day I'll be disappointed cuz, yeah,

0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that disappointing types, but I don't think it ever wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a disappointing time. It's also true, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how could a place like Watts in a place like

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<v Speaker 1>Newport Beach exists at the same time. That gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>like a fucking flaw in a place like bell Lair

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<v Speaker 1>in a place like Compton can exist at the same time. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>think about that Bell Layer and Compton, then motherfuckers is

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<v Speaker 1>twenty miles from each other. I think. Let me look

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<v Speaker 1>it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, how far is Central Park West or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the hell from Harlem? I mean, it'sn't like Park

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<v Speaker 2>Avenue on one side of Central Park West or I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>on one side of Central Park and then like Harlem

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<v Speaker 2>is like basically the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Compton to bell Lair is nineteen miles more.

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<v Speaker 2>Than a guess about fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>But how the fuck can somebody have entirely too much

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<v Speaker 1>and then these people have entirely not enough. That gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be like the greatest, Like that's just crap. It's nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>miles peak. It is how could you how could you

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<v Speaker 1>have that much? And then somebody this close could not

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<v Speaker 1>have nearly enough and you exist peacefully.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the last part is kind of the uh the kicker.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, you know, resources can buy an awful lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Like think about that. There's a house in bel Lairer

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<v Speaker 1>for sale right now. Let me look at this. I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at a house in bel Lairer for sale

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<v Speaker 1>right it came up in my email and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>house in bell Layer.

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<v Speaker 2>Think I saw something about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like some kind of crazy means, like a

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<v Speaker 1>nine figure Yeah, it was like one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine million dollars a twelve bedroom, seventeen bath, two acre

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<v Speaker 1>house and bed layer. The address is twelve hundred bell Layer, Rolled,

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, Sky nine zero zero seven seven. The house

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<v Speaker 1>cousin is one hundred and forty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I really don't understand about that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of surplus bathrooms in that home.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like they don't want to share the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I never got that.

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<v Speaker 2>Even I understand, Okay, we're gonna have twelve bedrooms and

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<v Speaker 2>then twelve bathrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Have teams yeah, I get thirteen guess bathroom you want

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<v Speaker 1>people in yo bath They've got.

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<v Speaker 2>Five or six extra bathrooms. It's as if they're serving

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<v Speaker 2>laxative in there. And you better have a bathroom close

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<v Speaker 2>enough to in case, you know, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>go down to the hall too far to the next bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know what that was about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what's going on there?

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm looking and this is right here, and they

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<v Speaker 1>be talking shit about these people who running in these

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<v Speaker 1>stores taking shit.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred thousand is about what it's about the price

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<v Speaker 2>of a house in Compton three to five. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>saw if we called it five, that's two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty houses in Compton for that guy's house. That would

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<v Speaker 2>be pretty cool. If I was going to roll up,

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<v Speaker 2>roll up a buck forty on a property acquisition, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be down to buy two hundred and eighty house in Compton.

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<v Speaker 2>They were all if they were all attacked.

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<v Speaker 1>They but it's like the dawn payment because it's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight MILLI you know, the down payment is twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>minutes for yeah, twenty eight million, twenty percent, and the

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<v Speaker 1>monthly payment is one million dollars nine hundred and eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand a month. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>can even findance that for thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know at this interest rates like this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>probably could.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you even want to finance that at that point?

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty six was at one hundred, was at twelve million

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<v Speaker 1>a year, one twenty three six, God damn three gd

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you've been in the house four hundred million dollars. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that type of shit make me want to drink the

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>fact that that much house is fifteen miles away from

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<v Speaker 1>the ghetto. It depends on which ghetto because it probably

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<v Speaker 1>could be Like if you want the Hoovers, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it from the Jays about eighty?

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>But the Jays is almost like a science project?

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<v Speaker 2>How far has it been from the Harlems? About nine?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's close. The Jazz is different because the Jays

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<v Speaker 1>is like a like a someone I sold those. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's it's gonna be over.

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to tell Malcolm. I was like, what

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 2>you need to do, because he was all like I

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 2>got a turn in the jungles. I was like, you

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 2>can complaining about they suck for thirty years. It should

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 2>be happy. But like I was like go get Potomac

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<v Speaker 2>made a historical landmark site. I mean it was the

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 2>culmination scene of what was that? The isn't that the

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>first oscar to a black actor in a non supporting role? Yeah? Yeah,

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.199
<v Speaker 2>just go over to city Hall and get it declared

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 2>historical monument. They'll do it in two seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what does that do?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't knock it down the rest of it. They're

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>probably knocked down, but you could at least hold down

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>the cold set.

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what? Somebody asked me, did I think gentrification

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>was bad? They was like, oh, guds, you don't think

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 1>it's better. I'm thinking to myself, like I get it right, Like,

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>because that's what's been That's what's happening right, These places

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 1>are being gentrified. But it's like if you're not, how

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>is it somebody could have enough fucking money to come

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>over here and buy shit, but the people who live

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>here don't have enough money to buy shit? You know

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, how do you have that much

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>money to where all these stray people could come and

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>move into community and they got enough money to afford it,

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>but the people right there can't afford it. And what

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>people would like me to believe is that like a

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>drunk mind would like me to believe that, Oh, they

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:54.959
<v Speaker 1>just didn't do anything with their life. And it's like,

0:27:55.880 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean the majority of the population bro as she Yeah,

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>so it's easy to lead sheep any direction you want

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>them to go.

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 2>The American perspective on wealth disparity is perceived upside down.

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's like looking at a forest right from

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<v Speaker 2>eye level to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Top I leveled to the top of what of the

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<v Speaker 1>of the trees in the forest feet up in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like you.

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<v Speaker 1>If the trees are fifty fifty feet.

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<v Speaker 2>If the tree is fifty feet the average three fifty feet,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like forty sixty feet. You can see the tops

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 2>of them, but you see that they're not the same tops.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people will look at it like who came

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<v Speaker 2>around and knocked the tops off of all those trees

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't as tall as that one? And the perception

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<v Speaker 2>really is more accurately, what caused that tree to grow

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>taller than that one?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you think that's the perception from who?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the current, Like that's the times perception

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<v Speaker 2>of in America of wealth di spirity. Like like the

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 2>culture now looks at it as though all the trees

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<v Speaker 2>were sixty feet and then someone came and hacked the

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<v Speaker 2>tops off of like ninety percent of them down to

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<v Speaker 2>forty five feet. Reality is the other ones grew taller.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know they might even start it taller.

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<v Speaker 2>Trees don't start taller.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it depends, like even coming into America, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a different set of trees. Like right, it's like slavery

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<v Speaker 1>is not even two hundred years old, right, Like it's

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>not that old. Right, it's this is not that old.

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<v Speaker 1>And you like, because I don't think, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>want to have a conversation. I hate about Like I

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<v Speaker 1>get the concept of the wealth disparity, wealth gap, That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about simple things

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<v Speaker 1>like the American dreams that we sold, I mean American

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<v Speaker 1>dream that we sold out right, which was like a

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<v Speaker 1>place like Compton. Well, it's like the people crazy and

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<v Speaker 1>they so a place like Compton or a place like

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<v Speaker 1>let's say like Herssey, Pennsylvania where John his name is

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<v Speaker 1>John Hershey, they made Hershey Company. I think it's name

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<v Speaker 1>is John Hershey Hershey.

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<v Speaker 2>So just out of curiosity, I had noticed at at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of one of the famous Zapp and Roger songs,

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 2>he was talking about chocolate cities, and he didn't mention Hershey, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no fucking idea. I don't think they're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the same chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. So, Milton Hershey, you might be right.

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Milton Hershey.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Milton Hershey created the town that we know. It's Hershey, Pennsylvania, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And this was kind of the traditional American idea. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a great idea that he built factory out and

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<v Speaker 1>then he wanted people to come work, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>people come work, and instead of having him drive miles away,

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<v Speaker 1>he built the town to support you know, he built

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<v Speaker 1>the town to master the economy right where people could

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<v Speaker 1>move into these houses and shot playing work there. That's Compton.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the same thing like if you look down Alameda

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<v Speaker 1>on Compton and Compton right, all these factories right now.

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to a politician and she was telling

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<v Speaker 1>me that it was grandfathered in that I think forty

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty percent of the people who worked at these

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>factories were supposed to live in these houses. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was the simplistic idea of America and It

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<v Speaker 1>was a brilliant idea, right you people used to walk

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<v Speaker 1>to work, you know what I mean? And what I

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<v Speaker 1>think happened specifically in canter right as black people started

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<v Speaker 1>to move to Compton out. It's probably a really crazy

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>idea that they started moving there. It's something that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about because they moved there and grow. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then white folks start moving out, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Costner families in the world start moving out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they had to move out for the black people

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<v Speaker 2>to move in because the vacancies had to be created.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but I think they were also building at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. Well, and this is the thing because,

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<v Speaker 2>like I only said it because like we've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred times. Sure, my grandparents lived in all those

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>same houses. They ain't built nothing new.

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<v Speaker 1>But then what is older than Compton, Yeah, but like

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<v Speaker 1>not by a lot.

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And really what late sixties, early late fifties, early sixties

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<v Speaker 2>was when black people started to come to South California.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they had been around so remember, they couldn't

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't remember, they couldn't really be around, right, because

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>they did have little pockets right the place in Venice.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>What's that Dalton.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those old big apartments, like one of the.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Oldest places black people moved. So black people came to

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>southern California before that, but I don't think they could

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<v Speaker 1>get in the the aries like they was in Dogtown.

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>They were in it was the fifties. That's when the fifties.

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 2>When in the fifties, And that's why like the difference

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<v Speaker 2>between well the.

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Projects was wasn't first for remember that was for the

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>war people, No, Jordan Downzelea.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the expansions of the project was for black people,

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<v Speaker 2>and black people were good at paper This is this

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>littletory people. I don't think no about La Sure below

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<v Speaker 2>the pueblos is that's black projects is below all the

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<v Speaker 2>ones what do they call it? The I thought they

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<v Speaker 2>called it also like dog Town or something like that.

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 2>The projects by Chinatown and and then like Big Hazard

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<v Speaker 2>and the strata courts and all those ones was are

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<v Speaker 2>on Mexican Yeah, as I looked, I mean, I for

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<v Speaker 2>what I read the they built all those ones up

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 2>there and didn't allow black people to apply because apparently

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 2>black people were very good at paperwork compared to Mexicans.

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>So the Jordan Downs first open in May nineteen forty four.

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>The complex was originally developed as a semi permanent housing

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>for war workers during World War Two. In the early

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties, Hacla and Damn that still around converted it

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<v Speaker 1>to public housing. It was among the last of the

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>public housing projects and was to be opened for that purpose.

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.760
<v Speaker 1>It opened in nineteen fifty five, shortly after new Mayor

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Norris Paulsen ended all new public housing in the city. Development,

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>like others in the area, became partially integrated. However, its

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>tendency its Tennessee rapidly became majority black, approaching one hundred

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>percent by the mid nineteen sixties. This rapid change occurred

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>for a number of reasons. Many of the veterans who

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>still lived in the projects in the early nineteen fifties

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>moved out as they were able to purchase homes. Blacks

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<v Speaker 1>still migrating west after the war ended gravitated excuse me,

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Blacks still migrating west after the war gravitated towards areas

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 1>like Watts that already had sizable back populations. In addition,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the first decade of the post war period,

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>restrictive covenants helped channel recent migrants into Watts and away

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>from nearby suburban cities such as Compton.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure yeah so.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, What I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think a lot of the real initial challenges for black

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>people in LA was the fact that they, bluntly speaking,

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>they just got there later. Like the economic explosion that

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>happened on the West coast, like from like nineteen forty

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 2>three or four, whenever the Pacific theater machine really really

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 2>ramped up, they weren't there yet. Sure, So by the

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.919
<v Speaker 2>time that wave crested and crashed, then they got there.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>So that's there's a big difference. And that's a huge

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>difference in twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Years sure, Sure, especially around that time. But the Mexicans

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>were here then before then, yea, because the first was Crazy.

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Is the first street gang in LA that's credited. Obviously

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not white people would be white fence Okay. Yeah,

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>they've been around since like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirties, and it was fun. I had to look it

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>up too, because I was such a square. But when

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>you get off of the one on one at Normandy,

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<v Speaker 2>because to me, fourteen means north. Sure, I kept seeing

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<v Speaker 2>C fourteen, C fourteen all over the place. Is this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, because you can go to the north and

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<v Speaker 2>see thirteens, you don't come to the south.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen that's not happening now once you pass fresh Noo,

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<v Speaker 1>that ain't Yeah, And.

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I know that is not what I

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<v Speaker 2>am seeing. So I google what's CEE fourteen KYA fourteen

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 2>and you know under like you know where the blue

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 2>line turns sure above Washington. Apparently that fourteenth Street was

0:36:58.080 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 2>one of the was all like one of the very

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 2>all also original gangs like zoot Suit during gangs, and

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 2>they the city was so vexed by the Fourteenth Street

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 2>gang that they cleared them out and rezoned their neighborhood

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 2>industrial so that they couldn't live there. So Kye fourteen

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 2>became a nomadic gang, but they retained the name.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. I know a couple of those most

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>gangs is gonna be like that in twenty years, I mean,

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>if they're still gangs. But I guess the point I

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>was making is, I mean, even the whole concept of

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the wealth gap is it's just different.

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.879
<v Speaker 1>If you you have to really just believe that they're

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>still a letble of you know what I mean, Like

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you niggas ain't finna get no money. It's just kind

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>of how I to go. And even certain things because

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I agree, like as Americans started selling the country out

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>as a whole right to you know, they didn't want

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to build everything no more they want to People got greedier.

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if that's the correct way

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to put it, but to me, that's what it's about.

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>People got greedier right where they started building everything overseas

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 1>or cheaper.

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 2>They didn't get greater. They got lazier. And I don't

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 2>mean the workers, I mean the leaders. Sure you got

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 2>to a point where you had a generation of innovators

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>that created an explosion of growth in the USA. Coustume

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 2>those were not people who got MBAs at Ivy League schools.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 2>That's true, they were really they were replaced not by

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 2>innovators but by managers. What do managers know how to do?

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Very little? They know how to do one thing, cut cost.

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to come up with a new idea.

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to streamline this better. What can

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 2>we do cut cost? We gotta our projections for next

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 2>year got to be better than they were for last year.

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 2>We can't make any more profit unless we cut costs.

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Because we can't put out a product that is innovative

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 2>enough to justify raising the price. We got to hold

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 2>the price, compete against that guy and cut costs. What's

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 2>that guy doing the same old dumb ass shit we're doing.

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 2>He's cutting costs, So we got to cut cost so

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>we can have our margin and not get priced out

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 2>of the marketplace by that guy and have no new ideas.

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 2>There's no innovation, no growth, no nothing. All they can

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>do is figure out a way to get it done

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 2>cheap or elsewhere. That's a huge problem in the US economy.

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.919
<v Speaker 2>So Ray Crock, Ray Kroc, who's Ray.

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Krock, guy who took over McDonald's from Ray mac ray

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>mac when Ray is Richard and Maurice.

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Make that would have been the guy who was played

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>in that movie by Michael Keaton. Yes, no, he was

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 2>an innovator.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck did he innovate? He wasn't no fucking innovator.

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>He's a fucking manager. He literally cut all the calls.

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>He's reason why all the burgers tastes like shit. He's

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the reason why the fucking drink is made out of

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>powdered milkshake. He's the reason that quality goes down the drain.

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Sure, the quality went down the drain, but the business

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 2>growth didn't grow down the drain. He streamlined the system, and.

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>He system to be streamlined.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't out, he didn't say, he didn't walk into

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of He didn't find a mature entity, a

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>mature thing and start taking people out of it.

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Of course he did. He took the owners who understood

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 1>quality and what made the business thrive. Right, he understood

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the quality of the business was so high that he

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 1>could shrink it down further and further to allow it

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to spread. Like, but but.

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 2>It did though, So what like what how many people

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 2>did McDonald's employed when he got there versus when he left?

0:40:51.320 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it also depends on like like right, it's like.

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 2>Like in comparison to Ford during the time when McDonald's

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 2>employed one hundred x in a growth curve. Oh sure

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 2>it was.

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.919
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm saying, I'm saying I'm sorry, hundred said hundred times.

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the first time. So I'm saying, go ahead.

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it wasn't as many. So yeah, he took

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>it ahead.

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:21.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so more locations, more employees more.

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Or whatever at the expensive quality, though.

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Sure Ford also at the expensive quality.

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Reduce their employment in America. Yes, yeah, but I think

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of the same thing. I understand the

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>concept of employment in America, and I think that's what

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.959
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, right, somebody like Ford, So you feel

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>like that's the responsible. Some asshole just came in, like

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>this is how we're gonna maximize profit.

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question. I mean it's rampant throughout all sorts

0:41:58.800 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>of verticals of commerce.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And you think this is because uh, the Ford, Henry

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Ford was like he was pretty much done, and this

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>is somebody taking over. Yeah, because like what happened to

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>make because what's happening with in and Out could be

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>happening with McDonald's. But because again they went after kind

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>of the global look at the expense of having something

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>that benefit human beings to it. I don't want to

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>be You're right, I can't be too hasty because it

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 1>does employ American people and people around the world. But

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the problem. I think when we keep

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>exchanging quality right for the sake of growth, and I

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>think that's still triggered by greed.

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it depends on the kind of growth. Yeah,

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:46.879
<v Speaker 2>I think what you.

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Know, because by the say standard, like the person who

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>made the move for four it could be considered a

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:55.240
<v Speaker 1>global hero, right because they created more opportunities in China,

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>created more opportunities in Mexico and everywhere else except America.

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 2>We brought more people out of poverty in China than

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 2>our breathing air in America.

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>For sure.

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 2>That happened for sure, you know. So yeah, it all

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 2>does depend to scale, you know. And I was talking

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 2>about the other day with somebody, like if you were

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 2>to say the square this average square footage of an

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 2>average house and an average town and an average income,

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 2>the triangulate all the averages you can find on that

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>house in nineteen fifty eight, you know, the arrow and everything.

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Everybody had everything. Whatever the fuck there was family of

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>four or five, you know whatever it was with one

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:55.399
<v Speaker 2>small house and one car and one TV. Now that

0:43:55.480 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>experience is three cars, five TVs, four cell phones, internet cable,

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 2>all this sudd of shit TV was freeze the radio.

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's like I don't know what what's the

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 2>what's the note on whatever the fuck house on a

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and fifty thousand dollars house in Indianapolis.

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Shit, that's probably a mansion in Indianapolis. I mean the

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>note is probably, I don't know, twenty eight six twenty

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 1>six did right there? About twenty six twenty seven something

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>like that.

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you start adding in more cars and

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 2>cell phones and internet and cable and whatever the fuck else,

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:41.919
<v Speaker 2>that those numbers almost match.

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, what are you saying?

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, there's two things happening simultaneously. You have an

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 2>increase in the standard expectation.

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 1>That has a standard of existent living.

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 2>The standard of the expectation has outpaced like on you know,

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>the in the median side has has outpaced median income

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.239
<v Speaker 2>by a lot, like the price I just saw a

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 2>price breakdown by an economist of like the time price

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 2>to buy a house now, I mean the amount of

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 2>hours of work that you could buy at a again

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 2>median income for median house. The house has grown. So

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 2>you're getting a better, bigger house for less hours work

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>today than was required to do so in like nineteen

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:37.280
<v Speaker 2>sixty right from a price per square foot standpoint.

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Sure, even though it's a piece of shit house.

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the only one, the new one is the old

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.319
<v Speaker 2>one is. But the piece of shit built in twenty

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty one is better than a piece of shit built

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty one.

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm I'm a hand on that one.

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 2>That's yeah. I mean you go look because the house

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 2>built in nineteen sixty one's on hir ruin Central. Those

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 2>houses knocked down you tip mote if you hit him

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:00.799
<v Speaker 2>hard enough.

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, there's some pretty ship the miles are some

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>ship ones right there. They built them upfuckers out of brick.

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh they didn't bring Those houses are built out of

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 2>dry wall. And as best us, you die a living

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 2>one of those houses.

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>That's a push, go ahead.

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 2>But anyhow, the difference is also everything I said before.

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:30.800
<v Speaker 2>The regular costs to do everything else are three hundred

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:33.319
<v Speaker 2>a month for your family's cell phone bills. But even

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 2>seven eight nine thousand dollars for a month.

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a push though, because you're saying without the electives

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>of life, the extras, then it's said, would be livable.

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Fuck No, let me ask you this, okay, because okay,

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>let's let's go back to that same house. Let's let's

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>go to a house in Indianapolis right now, where would

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>there even be a mass place to work to earn

0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven hundred dollars a month.

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 2>A month is nothing. That's thirty thousand dollars a year.

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>That's something like, where the fuck are you gonna get

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand? McDonald's barely pay thirty thousand dollars a year.

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Do it even pay thirty thousand dollars a year? What

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.720
<v Speaker 1>is McDonald's minum wage? Fifteen dollars a hour fifteen times

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:18.919
<v Speaker 1>for six hundred, six hundred, twelve hundred, whatch you bringing

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 1>on eight fifty? Everybody in the house got to work

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to pay that bill. That's shit crazy, Like, okay, right,

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>if it's fifteen dollars times forty, that's six hundred times

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 1>two to twenty.

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 2>But that's but you're mismatching. Now, that's like a median

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 2>house in the area versus the most the one percentile income.

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:45.439
<v Speaker 2>Your median income is like fifty.

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Right, median income is fifty.

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Average income is fit to a median house to match

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 2>the meeting, But.

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Where is the median income fifty thousand dollars at Who

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:57.879
<v Speaker 1>the fuck is making fit? And this is what I'm saying,

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 1>back to the original point that I'm saying, like there

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>is nowhere to work in it. Okay, think about how

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 1>few jobs is in the community, right, Like, I know

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you've been around a little bit, you know what's up.

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.919
<v Speaker 1>The jobs to me that make that kind of money

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 1>are the jobs that are not there anymore. I mean, right,

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:20.800
<v Speaker 1>So if you didn't go to school, you don't go

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to college, right, Lord knows if you can afford college.

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 1>But if you didn't go to college, how the fuck

0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>do you make? Fifty thousand dollars a year? Sixty thousand

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:27.799
<v Speaker 1>dollars a year.

0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Trained jobs make more than that what trained.

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Jobs is available.

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 2>If you pull up this is what we're saying.

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>This Ford left the country.

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 2>This is well, I mean, like right now there is

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 2>a massive drought for a lot of basic skilled labor electricians, plumbers,

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of shit, mechanics, all that kind of stuff.

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>It said, that's that's it said.

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 2>That's it's a shortage for sure, major shortage nationally. Its regional.

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 2>So like and the thing I think with Watts almost

0:48:57.440 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 2>give credit WATS is transiend. In nineteen seventy Watts was

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 2>like seventy five percent black and twenty five percent Mexican.

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Now it's the other way around. So less black people

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 2>were fucking the Mexicans came out.

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>People left, Nah, they got priced out. They didn't just leave.

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>The prices really start slipping up, probably in the in

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the late two thousands. I remember that, Like I remember

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>growing up right, hustling, selling drugs and shit. You can

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.280
<v Speaker 1>buy a house in Watch for fifty thousand.

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:33.399
<v Speaker 2>What year would you say, wats stopped being seventy percent black?

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Probably too, Well, that changed. But I'm gonna tell you

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>why that changed.

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm only using the race thing because to identify you, not.

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Even race, because Mexicans wouldn't be a race, that'd just

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 1>be white people.

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying because if it was all black people,

0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:49.839
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't keep track of who's moving in and out.

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Sure, uh, probably became fifty to fifty in two thousand

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and four.

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Like nineteen ninety. I don't know Tistically, I don't think

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:04.399
<v Speaker 2>the census number.

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's true. I don't even think

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that's true because the projects wasn't fifty fifty. Projects wasn't

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 1>fifty fifty in nineteen ninety for sure.

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 2>No, But but I do.

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, when I saw it was fifty five, well,

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I looked and I was on the seven and fifty

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 1>percent of the people in the house at this point

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>was Mexican. Now this is probably twenty nineteen, nine nine,

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two thousand. I'm looking like, okay, every

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 1>other house is somebody from Mexico or somebody else that

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:31.920
<v Speaker 1>speaks Spanish.

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Sure that's about a generation. Yeah, you know.

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>But but what happened is right, is as the houses

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>started to change pricing. It wasn't like people just left

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and then people moved in, right, Like some people left

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:50.839
<v Speaker 1>because they felt like there was no opportunity. Sure, right,

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 1>so there's like, let me go get some opportunity, and

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.280
<v Speaker 1>then I do agree. Right, you may have had somebody

0:50:55.400 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that you know from you know, Mexico and below, you know,

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 1>South America moving in multiple families.

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, it was just kids from Mexican parents and

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 2>long bea shouldn't have shit else going on, or had

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:11.879
<v Speaker 2>a small, shittier job, and they moved to watch because

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 2>they just could afford it to watch. Nah.

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Nah, nah. It was people who didn't even speak English. Yeah,

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:20.439
<v Speaker 1>it was definitely people you know coming across and ship

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and getting those properties. But see, it didn't used to

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>be like now when I'm in the sixties, it's fifty percent.

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 1>See Watts has always been hell of multicultural, Like even

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:33.279
<v Speaker 1>if it was seventy five to twenty five, they probably

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:34.839
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit more than that because I could

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:38.359
<v Speaker 1>always remember when I'm at my dad house, Mexican people

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>being there. Like I think my older homies may remember

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a time of watch was like one hundred percent, but

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I ain't never in my life.

0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>So the East side has always been Grandma friend the

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 2>thirties and they.

0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't even a black family giged people.

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 2>For a long time and watches right next to the

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:56.200
<v Speaker 2>south gates.

0:51:56.239 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's natural exactly. So something else is happening, Pete, Like,

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's as simple as people are moving

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 1>out and other people are moving in. I think there

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 1>is a target. I think there's a reason people move here, right,

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:16.800
<v Speaker 1>And it's like with gentrification, right, there's a there's a

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:20.239
<v Speaker 1>mass movement of people. Like it's not as simple as like,

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 1>oh you know what people like. Like even when I

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>was in Content the other day, I went to a

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 1>cook's corner. I think that's the name of the barbecue spot.

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Got the name of the barbacue spot.

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 2>But that's not the barbecue. Remember I brought a bunch

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 2>of barbecue content up here at one time.

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know was it was it was it was

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 1>it at a Dolley truck.

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 2>There was a little, a small little restaurant. It was

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:44.239
<v Speaker 2>almost I think it was near churches.

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Like this place is fire. Oh, hold on, we call

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker Mannica.

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh the we can't call in a barbecue address. In

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the podcast, everybody to stop us.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna fucking stop us?

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 2>This is the most important thing we're gonna talk about.

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Exact opinion, quite frankly, exactly.

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I need to know about this je Manny Manny from

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:18.280
<v Speaker 1>as Boys fucking worldwide. What's the name of that barbecue

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:20.399
<v Speaker 1>spot in Compton you send me to? That was really good?

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 1>That got the big dinosaur ribs in Comton. Oh, kitchen corner,

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Kitchen corner right back, So I was in k I was.

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I went to kitchen Corner the other day and I

0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>look and really, now, like you're right, Compton is probably

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 1>like you know, Compton for sure would be like eighty percent.

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 1>But I think that's the problem, right. I think what's

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:51.800
<v Speaker 1>happening is is there's a gentrification, right a thing happening.

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 1>These These are conversations that's happening, even if we're not

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 1>a part of them, Like even if they're not mainstream conversations,

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 1>if everybody don't know about the conversations, these conversations Pete

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 1>is happening, and these places are being targeted specifically for

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:11.239
<v Speaker 1>certain moves of economic growth, like even a gentrification that's

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:11.920
<v Speaker 1>not an accident.

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:14.279
<v Speaker 2>I'll talk about that's on the bar side. You're not

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:17.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna want to hear it. Sure, I'll preface it with

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:22.320
<v Speaker 2>a quote from Jamaica Andres because he came from Jamaica

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.360
<v Speaker 2>in the in the country and it was in the Bronx,

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and he's very critical, as a lot of people from

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.320
<v Speaker 2>the islands are when they come to the States. He

0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 2>would say, you know how I can always tell what

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 2>houses the Jamaica's wearing in the Bronx. How's that because

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.279
<v Speaker 2>the lawn was cut and they had flowers in the

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 2>front yard. That's his words, not mine.

0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:46.879
<v Speaker 1>But the I get it, I get it right, because

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>even even though that's a bit ridiculous, but I get

0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>what he's saying. Yeah, it's sure, Sure, it's a loose

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 1>it's a loose idea it's a loose concept because there's

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.400
<v Speaker 1>black people who manicure their nons, but I know what

0:54:57.480 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about. Yeah, But but also it's different when

0:54:59.920 --> 0:55:02.879
<v Speaker 1>you you come from a fucking third world country, right,

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and then you come to Compton or you come to

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the Bronx, you know what I mean. Like it's like

0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 1>when people say, oh, well, Mexican people come to Los Angeles,

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's like they like they gonna do nigga. They

0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:17.319
<v Speaker 1>come from somewhere. Nigga's no roofs on the property. They

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 1>come from somewhere. It's like a different level of poverty.

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 1>So even at that starting point, it's still better than

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:27.759
<v Speaker 1>where they started at. It ain't like we're getting the

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.359
<v Speaker 1>It ain't like the Wilbors people from Jamaica's coming here.

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 2>But that's not that matters, poet. But I mean, at

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 2>the same time, you also if you came from nineteen

0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:44.239
<v Speaker 2>fifties rural Mississippi or rural Louisiana, that's like modern day

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Jamaica poor.

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but those people come and that's why if you

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:50.320
<v Speaker 1>look at certain houses in one eleven, one eleven is

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.239
<v Speaker 1>uh or how would I reference that to you? Imperial?

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Imperial and van Is those houses, uh Compton, if you

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 1>go to those older people houses that came from the south,

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:06.800
<v Speaker 1>look at their fucking house. They have those manicure lines,

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the grass they are, but them ain't that ain't the

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>same house that Jamaican Andre and their family had in Jamaica.

0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Ain't have no fucking lines manicured and no motherfucking flowers

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:19.440
<v Speaker 1>over there, just like the people of Mexico that come here, right,

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the homies and shit different people I fuck with, They

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:27.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't have fucking manicured lines and flowers in fucking Mexico Vans.

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not that far different people from like Danker

0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and one hundred.

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 1>And third, Danker and one hundred and third, thanking one

0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred third, like one of the.

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Hood streets and the hundreds. That's pretty damn close.

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 1>A mundid and third. But it is different, right because

0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 1>if you okay, I agree, right, because okay, I see

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:53.799
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about Yeah, so some of those people, all

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:56.360
<v Speaker 1>of those people aren't the people that came here originally

0:56:56.480 --> 0:57:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and bought those houses, right, some of those people if

0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you look at certain houses on those blocks, right, like

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:04.360
<v Speaker 1>if you go in the sixties, if you go on

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the hundreds and dinker in one hundred and third is

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 1>what is it?

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that's like Hoover, that's hundreds that danker between

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Western and Normandy.

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:15.919
<v Speaker 1>I said, none is that fot? Yeah okay, so yeah,

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that's the hundreds. Wait a minute, man, that's wes Okay,

0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 1>one elevens. If you go to those houses, right, you

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>go to any of those houses, it's going to be

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 1>people that own that property since the fifties and sixties.

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 1>That's why it looks like that. It's not the children,

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not the people who ended up on crack. It's

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>not none of those people, because remember these neighborhoods were

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 1>all nice at a time unless somebody's parents was going

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 1>through it. But it's a hard competition to compete with

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:49.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody who comes from a third world country and then

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:53.080
<v Speaker 1>has opportunity at this. Even how they look at it

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:56.320
<v Speaker 1>is completely different. How they see it is completely different,

0:57:56.720 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 1>like like what's going on in watch right now? Ever,

0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 1>since they sold the projects, you started to see white people.

0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 1>You in comp you started to see Asian people. I

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:14.760
<v Speaker 1>remember the only Asian people in the Compton Dog was one.

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Of the projects they saw.

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I know, right, it's some crazy shit.

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh with like the little mall over there.

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 1>No, they sold the projects to who.

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Is the new Jordan Down Developments.

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:29.160
<v Speaker 1>No, it's you gotta look it up. It's some crazy shit, right.

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:32.720
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying even when you on crench y'all right,

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 1>like where where the low riders park at on the boulevard,

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Like with a Weani situation, I've seen a man, a

0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:39.000
<v Speaker 1>white man, running his dog with little shorts.

0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah yeah.

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 1>So again it's these are not like, oh you know what,

0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:48.560
<v Speaker 1>let me find somewhere to move. I'm gonna go down here.

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's ten times worse than like the north

0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 2>side of avenues that like twenty five years.

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Ago were like side news. What's the north side like.

0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, like Mount Washington. If you go up the

0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:02.200
<v Speaker 2>one tenth north of day downtown, you get like at

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:03.959
<v Speaker 2>like North Avenue forty three.

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're talking about like neor Pasadena. That that part

0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 1>of La Yeah that's not but that part of La

0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah.

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's like it was hood as fuck up there.

0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that been gentrified for a good twenty years now.

0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. It's like it's it's like that

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, say, from a time span standpoint, it's like,

0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, but I think whole generations.

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Sure, but I digress. I think the point I'm saying

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 1>is it makes it when we don't take care of

0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 1>each other as a society, right, Like Americans don't take

0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 1>care of Americans as a society. Right. This is where

0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you have those problems. The fact that bel Air is

0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:53.640
<v Speaker 1>right there and this is right here, right, that's what

0:59:53.840 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 1>fucks it up. I think that's what makes people even

0:59:56.440 --> 0:59:59.400
<v Speaker 1>more crazy than everything. How could somebody be ten miles

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and a half in time too much? Somebody ten miles

1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:06.720
<v Speaker 1>have entirely not enough. That's just fucking crazy, Pete. Now,

1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it was even the concept of the wealth gap, right.

1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Henry Ford was an innovator. I do think,

1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, Milton Herstey was an innovator. But they cared

1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:19.920
<v Speaker 1>about other human beings to some degree, even when it

1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:22.200
<v Speaker 1>came in America to see their dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the builder is that guy like that's that's one

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<v Speaker 2>of my top criticisms of I'm not saying one of

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:37.880
<v Speaker 2>my top this is gonna sound wrong, but from an

1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:43.880
<v Speaker 2>economic in the economic conversation, sure, the problem in the

1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 2>economic conversation, just so we're clear with slavery was most

1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:52.920
<v Speaker 2>innovation and growth comes from hands on workers.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's fair. The way you could take more cotton,

1:00:56.760 --> 1:00:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you pick more cotton you have to get or you're

1:00:59.000 --> 1:01:02.000
<v Speaker 1>working on the machine had plantation.

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<v Speaker 2>No shit. But if you have the freedom to implement

1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:08.720
<v Speaker 2>an idea to make something happen more efficiently, that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen from the person who's doing it all day long.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to happen from another guy, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Ninety nine percent of the time, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why you see, like the South was sparse

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<v Speaker 2>concentrations of ultra wealth and then mass poverty, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the aggregate, the South was way more poor than the

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<v Speaker 2>North because.

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<v Speaker 1>Even had wealthy people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because their whole working class of people that was

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<v Speaker 2>slaves were not allowed to implement human thought. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>just doing work frozen like cryogenically frozen in time.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, if they how they started is how they had

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<v Speaker 1>to finish.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had, however, many million people working on a

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<v Speaker 2>task in an industry commercial vertical for fifty years in

1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:03.320
<v Speaker 2>year fifty in year one, that industry wouldn't even resemble itself.

1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Sure, normally, but usually you would have took the it

1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:09.720
<v Speaker 1>have took how to make it happen faster when less people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some guy would work at a place, he'd go

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're slow at this. I can do it better.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go across the street, start a small shop,

1:02:16.360 --> 1:02:19.320
<v Speaker 2>do it faster, build and compete against them. Or they

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<v Speaker 2>would just implement the thing, get a raise, whatever the fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>and shit just happens. I mean, there's no there's not

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<v Speaker 2>an example in which that's not really true, even agriculture now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm saying, what's the point of even doing

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<v Speaker 1>it with slavery. I'm sure some of the slaves came

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<v Speaker 1>up with better ideas, but I guess like you might

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<v Speaker 1>be getting too many ideas, nigg You might think you

1:02:38.680 --> 1:02:39.439
<v Speaker 1>could be free nicks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you know, and how many of them

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna say, oh, hey, uncle Bill, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>faster way to do this. Yeah. Well, I'm saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill runs the place. You're Bill's nephew, Uncle Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>I got an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>What if he do is? Where'd you come with that idea? Oh?

1:03:03.880 --> 1:03:06.400
<v Speaker 2>That slave guy over there top that he's smarter than

1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:09.720
<v Speaker 2>you probably not going to have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm. So then it has to be something as

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<v Speaker 1>simple as greed. It cannot just be.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's a problem. There is an inherent just one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an inherent issue with the arc of like wealth

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<v Speaker 2>growth when.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes from you know what happened, and I'm not

1:03:37.880 --> 1:03:41.360
<v Speaker 1>to cut you off. Wealth went from just wealth used

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<v Speaker 1>to be more than just money. It used to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a connection to community, a connection to humanity, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like back in the day, it

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<v Speaker 1>was wealth meant more than just I have entire too

1:04:00.360 --> 1:04:03.320
<v Speaker 1>much money. It also meant I had the affection of

1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:04.120
<v Speaker 1>human beings.

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<v Speaker 2>It was tied to productivity. You know what the largest

1:04:10.240 --> 1:04:10.800
<v Speaker 2>deal is.

1:04:12.000 --> 1:04:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Ford really not still producing or is it just productivity

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<v Speaker 1>based off.

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<v Speaker 2>Between the Ford Motor Co Company, Inc? And for the

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<v Speaker 2>guy sure, guy running for a CEO now not named

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<v Speaker 2>for it. Sure, I don't have to even even have

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<v Speaker 2>to look at it. No, But like talk about if

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<v Speaker 2>like you know what the biggest industry in the world

1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:37.360
<v Speaker 2>is currency exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>Currency exchange make the most money with the money is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If they make the most money, but it's seven trillion

1:04:46.840 --> 1:04:52.000
<v Speaker 2>dollars plus per day in global currency exchange. That's not production.

1:04:53.400 --> 1:04:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Hiring somebody to come in and be hiring a room

1:04:56.080 --> 1:04:58.680
<v Speaker 2>of five hundred analysts to scrutinize where you can save

1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:03.120
<v Speaker 2>a nickel. That's not production. Paying somebody half a million

1:05:03.160 --> 1:05:05.760
<v Speaker 2>dollars a year to be in house counsel to stave

1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:09.280
<v Speaker 2>off some sort of stupid whatever the fuck slip and

1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:11.640
<v Speaker 2>fall lawsuit that you're gonna face. For Christ knows, what

1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:17.080
<v Speaker 2>is not production. Being in some sort of private equity

1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:21.520
<v Speaker 2>subsidized bizarre matrix where you're just running free money around

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<v Speaker 2>because interest rates were at one percent for twenty years,

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<v Speaker 2>or because we've now subsidized big banks as being too

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<v Speaker 2>big to fail so that they don't even understand risk

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<v Speaker 2>components in the economy. There's no growth because there's no failure.

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<v Speaker 2>You've subsidized failure out of existence. You have an enormous

1:05:40.360 --> 1:05:45.440
<v Speaker 2>class of wealthy Americans that get money and produce nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the disconnect.

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<v Speaker 1>How are these people getting more wealthy without producing anything? Today?

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<v Speaker 2>Manipulation you don't think, and hyperregulation, I mean, what do

1:06:08.240 --> 1:06:13.760
<v Speaker 2>you do now? Like like you're ex company and you're

1:06:13.880 --> 1:06:16.720
<v Speaker 2>now the biggest company in your field in America or

1:06:16.800 --> 1:06:21.600
<v Speaker 2>the world. What's your top priority. It's lobbying barriers of

1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:25.360
<v Speaker 2>entry and barriers of competition from anybody else to knock

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<v Speaker 2>you off the top. It's not trying to create a

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<v Speaker 2>better product anymore. You pivot. Why do you pivot because

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<v Speaker 2>you have new rooms of leaders who run out of ideas,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't want to lose their seat on the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the mountain. So instead of you can't climb

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<v Speaker 2>up any further, all you can do is prevent anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's the story. Like California right now makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>California matured into the fifth largest economy in the world

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<v Speaker 2>by itself. You can't build here, Like how many people

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<v Speaker 2>are billionaires in California from real estate development? That's like

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<v Speaker 2>most other than the tech people who are also completely

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<v Speaker 2>invested in an anti competitive environment. There's no competition for Apple,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no competition for Google. And then take Donald Brinn

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<v Speaker 2>of the Irvine Company out of Orange County or Caruso,

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<v Speaker 2>the developer in La what do they do. They just lobby.

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<v Speaker 2>They lobby for anything good. No, they lobby for exemptions

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<v Speaker 2>and carve outs out of massive blanket regulations that prevent

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<v Speaker 2>anybody from building anything except for them. That's why Caruso

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<v Speaker 2>is always running for some sort of fucking office. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why he's always in politics. Why you're always in politics?

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<v Speaker 2>All you do is build shopping malls. All you can't

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<v Speaker 2>build a shopping mall if you aren't in politics. Fuck

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<v Speaker 2>part of the economy? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Good? Looking out for tuning in to the Note Sellers Podcast,

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