Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, he has placed high on
Speaker 1: the Dalton scale of podcast Welcome back to another edition
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by Head and Shoulders.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes, Mark Sassler to my left
Speaker 1: and Greg Roseal to my right. Gentlemen, this is the
Speaker 1: Week three flagship edition of the podcast. The excited. Of
Speaker 1: course we're excited. What other emotion would be would be
Speaker 1: you know at this point the permissible that's fair, must
Speaker 1: be excited about pro football at all times. I mean
Speaker 1: it was. It was a very memorable day, not just
Speaker 1: because of you know, the off the field stuff, which
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about soon, but this was by
Speaker 1: far the best day of football season. They were a
Speaker 1: great game. How much to compare to, but it absolutely
Speaker 1: was twice as good as any other week. So the
Speaker 1: Thursday night game was great. And then at the end
Speaker 1: of the early games, I was standing up at my
Speaker 1: desk with three TVs around me, all games hanging in
Speaker 1: the balance, a lot of fun. We kind of this
Speaker 1: is a good week. Literally, like the five best games
Speaker 1: of the year were this week. Rams forty Niners, the Falcons, Lions, Giants, Eagles.
Speaker 1: Was a lot of fun Patriots, Texans and desperately needed.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that this this great week of action,
Speaker 1: uh finally hit and this morning before kickoff, the NFL
Speaker 1: was the biggest story in the country. But it had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the games that we're gonna be played.
Speaker 1: It was about the President Donald Trump, and let's let's
Speaker 1: hit this before we get into the games, because it
Speaker 1: is such a massive story that the President of the
Speaker 1: United States is essentially taking on the NFL. And at
Speaker 1: a rally in Huntsville, Alabama, on Friday night, Trump urged
Speaker 1: team owners to cut players who kneel during the national anthem,
Speaker 1: actually using which I would say this would go down
Speaker 1: in infamy for for Trump, but there's so many of
Speaker 1: these things you lose track what actually is gonna stick.
Speaker 1: But he said get that son of a off the
Speaker 1: field in reference to players that didn't kneel. Um. He
Speaker 1: then doubled down on these comments with several tweets, again
Speaker 1: saying that you know, basically to boycott the NFL, that
Speaker 1: will get these guys to respect the flag and Americans,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth, and that lad, of course,
Speaker 1: now two players reacting in a u you know, in
Speaker 1: a very emotional way, and in a way that that
Speaker 1: shows it almost kind of brought the league itself closer. Uh,
Speaker 1: people rallying against what Trump had to say. And the
Speaker 1: day started in London. Of course, shod Con down on
Speaker 1: the field with his players, various players from UM, the
Speaker 1: Jaguars and Ravens um kneeling for the anthem. We saw
Speaker 1: owners across the league on the field locking arms. Think
Speaker 1: how far this has come now now owners are down
Speaker 1: on the field doing it. And then the Seahawks and
Speaker 1: Titans greg a perfect example. Neither team either even came
Speaker 1: out for the national anthem, with the Seahawks and out
Speaker 1: releasing a stern statement on the situation. Uh, it is
Speaker 1: a huge, huge national story. It's unprecedented times. I mean,
Speaker 1: before we even got to Sunday, Roger Goodell, the commissioner,
Speaker 1: you know, released a statement talking about Trump's words. That
Speaker 1: was quickly followed by many teams owners releasing statements, some
Speaker 1: stronger than others. And you know, Patriots owner Robert Kraft,
Speaker 1: where there was eleven players on the field for the
Speaker 1: Patriots who kneeled today, he released a strong statement about
Speaker 1: being deeply disappointed, and Trump was asked about those comments
Speaker 1: from Craft today at a press briefing. We have Chris
Speaker 1: Collinsworth leading off Sunday Night football, asking the President to
Speaker 1: apologize to these players. We've been in unprecedented times in
Speaker 1: this country for a while now, and and it's now
Speaker 1: come even stronger into football. But it's it's been here
Speaker 1: the whole time. We just haven't talked about it been
Speaker 1: here the whole time. And you know, I think, no
Speaker 1: matter who you are, if you're in a position of
Speaker 1: power and you're going to make essentially a blanket statement
Speaker 1: about everyone who plays, coaches, own, and as part of
Speaker 1: an NFL team, you need to expect a pretty violent reaction.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. I think this is this
Speaker 1: is you have to put nuance with this situation. I
Speaker 1: don't like when I hear that if you kneel or
Speaker 1: if you don't come out of the locker room for
Speaker 1: the anthem, that you're obviously anti military. It is much
Speaker 1: more about pro freedom of speech and pro rights of
Speaker 1: people that don't feel and they support and they are
Speaker 1: with other people that don't feel those rights are given
Speaker 1: to them in this country. I think everybody's entitled to
Speaker 1: their opinion on it. I thought, again, it was a
Speaker 1: reckless use of power by the president and and that
Speaker 1: just my personal opinion. Now that people can think otherwise,
Speaker 1: but like to make a statement like that, I mean,
Speaker 1: everyone has an opinion about this. This is why Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick still doesn't have a job. Uh. And now the
Speaker 1: story uh has taken gone to the next level. And
Speaker 1: you don't know where this is going because now the
Speaker 1: president of the United States has involved Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: I well, I really thought a lot about Kaepernick this
Speaker 1: weekend and last night and wondered what he was thinking
Speaker 1: watching all of this and it and it gets back
Speaker 1: a little bit too how effective I think he ultimately
Speaker 1: has been and was was from the moment it started,
Speaker 1: and it's playing out even more. You know, today Donald
Speaker 1: Trump said this has nothing to do with race. That
Speaker 1: was his quote. And it's always awkward three white guys
Speaker 1: talking about race. But this was Colin Kaepernick standing up
Speaker 1: against racial oppression, against racial inequities which have really defined,
Speaker 1: you know, much of what's wrong with this country for
Speaker 1: a long time. And it's amazing to think now a
Speaker 1: year later, this is only grown to the point where
Speaker 1: now the president is addressing it on a weekend where
Speaker 1: there's a lot else going on in this country. He
Speaker 1: is tweeting about the NFL and NBA players too, more
Speaker 1: than anything else. And it almost makes you feel that
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick's words have even more weight to them now
Speaker 1: because everything that he was standing up for and my
Speaker 1: Cole Bennett and lots of other players are standing up
Speaker 1: for and they protested today that's being played out like
Speaker 1: they are being proven right right, And I don't what
Speaker 1: I what bothers me is when you take the whole
Speaker 1: group of players in the NFL and try to vilify
Speaker 1: those who protest for very different reasons. In some cases,
Speaker 1: these guys have one day off and it's Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: it's not every player in the league, but there are
Speaker 1: at least fifteen to twenty guys every Tuesday for their
Speaker 1: team that are out in the community doing more than
Speaker 1: most people that watch football will do over the course
Speaker 1: of twenty years for the people, for the towns they
Speaker 1: live in, the people in that town that are not
Speaker 1: doing so well. And so I Kaepernick is one of
Speaker 1: those people too, and people glance right past that issue
Speaker 1: that he is has done a lot of philanthropy, and
Speaker 1: so have many other NFL players. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: weekend in the NFL that I think will be Remember.
Speaker 1: It's one of those moments, and there's been more of
Speaker 1: those lately, but for the NFL's purposes, a moment where
Speaker 1: you know, ten twenty years from now, we're gonna remember
Speaker 1: this this Sunday. This is Yeah, it's a major situation
Speaker 1: in this country, and the NFL is right in the
Speaker 1: middle of it. All right, So we'll track that story
Speaker 1: as it continues to develop throughout the weeks and perhaps months.
Speaker 1: All right, let's now get into Week three of the
Speaker 1: NFL all the events of Sunday, and we'll start, why
Speaker 1: not on the throne of ease. Here's the shotgun snapped
Speaker 1: to Brady, who pop slobs looking deep down the far
Speaker 1: left side, open target and June touchdown. Brandon cooks Brady
Speaker 1: on his beckside after heaving to the left corner of
Speaker 1: the end. Zude and Cook's carouse it for second score
Speaker 1: of the game. How do they do it? John? How
Speaker 1: do they do it? They got the greatest quarterback that's
Speaker 1: ever lived. I'll go on record with saying that, boy,
Speaker 1: what confidence, what a remarkable throw against this dynamic pass rush,
Speaker 1: and Brandon Cooks has become the receiver the Patriots traded
Speaker 1: to get him for. How has he changed this team
Speaker 1: all right, at a time where yet the freedom and
Speaker 1: freedom of speech and free him of expression has never
Speaker 1: been more important in this country. Yeah, that dude saying
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is the best, Oh he is. Let's face it,
Speaker 1: but Tom Brady through five touchdown passes, including that twenty
Speaker 1: five yard hook up with Brandon Cooks twenty three seconds
Speaker 1: to play, the Patriots rally to beat the Houston Texas
Speaker 1: thirty six thirty three in Foxborrow in a game that
Speaker 1: is not the script any of us thought the game
Speaker 1: would follow, But it does end how we all expected,
Speaker 1: with the Patriots winning once more greg Once again, we
Speaker 1: saw an opponent fail repeatedly to close out the Patriots.
Speaker 1: And let's be honest with basic execution, Recover a fubble,
Speaker 1: hold on to an interception, cover properly on on that
Speaker 1: scoring play with your safety and your quarterback, and you
Speaker 1: know what, you don't do those things against the Pats.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's gonna kill you. And he did it again.
Speaker 1: It it's crazy. He just keeps adding scenarios that normally
Speaker 1: would be the most memorable comeback in anyone's career. But
Speaker 1: Brady's done it so many different ways. But just think
Speaker 1: about how They're offense finished out the game third and
Speaker 1: eighteen on the Patriots forty eight yard line with fifty
Speaker 1: four seconds left. Two plays later, they're in the end zone.
Speaker 1: I mean, that just doesn't happen against a great defense.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's overstating. They're missing, you know, some cornerbacks right now,
Speaker 1: but the pass rush was all over Tom Brady. Three
Speaker 1: strip sacks, five sacks. He's gonna wake up really sore
Speaker 1: after this game. But despite I'll be fine. Well, I
Speaker 1: know he's got you know, he's got the diet, but
Speaker 1: he's gonna wake up. He's gonna wake up so he
Speaker 1: doesn't get sunburned. And he comes up with it. And
Speaker 1: the Patriots fans are so spoiled it's ridiculous. Well, from
Speaker 1: the flip side, I would say that if you're a
Speaker 1: Texans fan and you know, in multiple, multiple dimensions, they
Speaker 1: probably lost this game points in this one, thirty six
Speaker 1: thirty three, they really I think played a pretty good gamer.
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson, what a sign of what an encouraging, you know,
Speaker 1: development from that Thursday night game against the Bengals some
Speaker 1: really good Frosens. I mean, we all talked about it.
Speaker 1: The numbers backed up the idea of a rookie going
Speaker 1: into New England and getting completely butchered. And what all
Speaker 1: he did was going there and show no fear, just
Speaker 1: like he is Shaky's as he was at times even
Speaker 1: in the win against Cincinnati, he never showed any fear,
Speaker 1: I didn't think, and he got more confidence in the
Speaker 1: game went along. So you're feeling good about um where
Speaker 1: he is in his development early on. Uh And yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's the positive takeaway. But the other side of
Speaker 1: it is you gotta close out the game. And we'll
Speaker 1: see this will come up repeatedly this week and a
Speaker 1: lot of games. Is when you have a chance to
Speaker 1: put a team boy in the NFL in these games
Speaker 1: when your record winning eight nine, ten games will define
Speaker 1: your season. The Houston Texans gotta win this game well.
Speaker 1: And and it's a complete team victory for the Patriots
Speaker 1: because even though they gave up all those points, you know,
Speaker 1: some of that was on jadeveon clowneyes, you know, return,
Speaker 1: some of it is on situations where the Patriots offense
Speaker 1: put the defense in bad scenarios. And the Houston Texans
Speaker 1: have a second and three with two forty one to go,
Speaker 1: you pick up a first down, the game is over.
Speaker 1: Patriots give up two yards third and one. They bring
Speaker 1: in a goal line offense, goal line defense. Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: does not choose to do a play action or do
Speaker 1: anything but run the ball up the middle. The Patriots
Speaker 1: stuff and then they it's Gronk and Brady picking up
Speaker 1: third down. You know this laws as they all do.
Speaker 1: Greg with this lass annoyed me downstairs, and a lot
Speaker 1: of the things that I take nothing away from the Patriots,
Speaker 1: but I have to say, whether you're talking their last
Speaker 1: two Super Bowl wins this game, I'm sure you could.
Speaker 1: There are a couple of other examples a little bit
Speaker 1: of luck involved here these teams. Well, the strip sack,
Speaker 1: especially they strip sack Tom Brady. There is no clutchness
Speaker 1: factor of the Patriots center picking up that sack on
Speaker 1: the last tif. The game is over at that point.
Speaker 1: That's some of these victories that it's almost like kis
Speaker 1: Mitt and and give the Patriots credit, but these teams
Speaker 1: should be winning these games well, it's total consistency. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady has been with this team. You can change the
Speaker 1: players around him, but Brady has been into England in
Speaker 1: this situation a million times. Every time Houston rolls in,
Speaker 1: they got a different quarterbacks starting from scratch. You need
Speaker 1: to get to Shaun Watson and his third, fourth, fifth,
Speaker 1: sixth start against the Patriots. And but make a play
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Just make a play to close
Speaker 1: out a game any of these teams. These are not
Speaker 1: like miracle plays. They need to make. Its converting a
Speaker 1: first down or getting off the field on third and
Speaker 1: eighteen that just never seen. I mean, the catches by
Speaker 1: m and Dolan were pretty good, about credible, they were great.
Speaker 1: And the one last thing. Teams are daring Tom Brady
Speaker 1: to throw down the field. And in the last two
Speaker 1: weeks he has filled the two offense. He had nine
Speaker 1: passes today that traveled fifteen yards or more. He has
Speaker 1: been a vertical receiver and it's working. It's a long
Speaker 1: we are a long way off from that. Thursday against
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Brady once again is up there in the
Speaker 1: m v P. One last single Dan. If you want encouragement,
Speaker 1: if you're looking for new England to implode at some point.
Speaker 1: I still am concerned about their defense. Oh yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: and I agree. He took a beating, so they gave
Speaker 1: up four yards. You should be celebrating that. Maybe you're not.
Speaker 1: Maybe you should. I don't know. This is a team
Speaker 1: that that's figuring things out. They're winning along the way.
Speaker 1: But they just gave a four d yards to a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. Yeah no, there are some things to hang
Speaker 1: my hat on. But again, another annoying day. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Mariota gives it to Murray running to the laft. He's
Speaker 1: got room in the thirty fifty. He cuts back to
Speaker 1: the middle thirty thirty text Titans, I think strikes like
Speaker 1: it Mike Keith w g f X to Marco Murray's
Speaker 1: long touchdown acted. There's a cherry on top for the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, who scored twenty one straight points against the
Speaker 1: Seahawks and route to thirty three seven win in Nashville.
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota through for five yards and two touchdowns and
Speaker 1: mark the Seahawks once again look lethargic against an upper
Speaker 1: tier opponent. The Titans looked like they were for real.
Speaker 1: Very weird game. It's it's. It opened with ten combined
Speaker 1: three an ounce for these two teams in the first half,
Speaker 1: and it looked like it was going to be another
Speaker 1: one these twelve to nine type operations where by the
Speaker 1: end you're just you have fellow co workers propping you
Speaker 1: up in your chair to stay awake. And then the
Speaker 1: second half happened and it completely altered. It changed to
Speaker 1: Marco Murray after the break, very explosive. Derrick Henry finally
Speaker 1: got involved at the end. You know, everyone thought Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry was gonna lead the way here, and I was
Speaker 1: surprised to see Murray get the workload he did, but
Speaker 1: we just heard the call. He paid off there. I
Speaker 1: thought Marcus Mariota played the best game of the season
Speaker 1: and one of his best games ever. And you can
Speaker 1: look at Russell Wilson's box score career high three hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy three yards, almost all of that came in
Speaker 1: the end first half. In the entire second half, when
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is running around for his life, they have
Speaker 1: no foundational ground game and these yards, yes, you threw
Speaker 1: a lot of big chunk gains and they made made
Speaker 1: big place for the air. Doug Baldwin who left with
Speaker 1: a groin strain and we're waiting for more on that
Speaker 1: was absolutely heroic tonight. But I'm if I'm a Seahawks fan,
Speaker 1: I look at this effort and I'm concerned about this
Speaker 1: offense because you Russell Wilson shouldn't have had to do
Speaker 1: what he did with the way that we know Seattle's attack,
Speaker 1: and suddenly you have to think that there's leaks springing
Speaker 1: up because the defense had a very lackluster game, and
Speaker 1: that's what we don't expect to see out of Seattle.
Speaker 1: On thirty two dropbacks for Marcus Mariota, Pro Football Focus
Speaker 1: has two pressures, not not just sack. There's no QB hits,
Speaker 1: no sacks. I think they might have served up a
Speaker 1: ghost in which, for new listeners, is a no sack,
Speaker 1: no QB hit performance by an entire team named after
Speaker 1: one of Dan's favorite players of all time. That that's
Speaker 1: a credit to the Titans offensive line and a bad
Speaker 1: sign that the Seahawks got pushed around. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like Tennessee's kind of approach no line in
Speaker 1: general has not been quite as impressive as they were
Speaker 1: at their heights last year. But they wound up with
Speaker 1: a hundred and nineties six rushing yards, and that was legit.
Speaker 1: They were they were really Seattle looked tired out by
Speaker 1: the end. Seattle gave up that after giving up a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty nine on the ground last year. So
Speaker 1: you last week, so you get Sheldon Richardson in there,
Speaker 1: and yet nothing seemed to be as dominant balance at
Speaker 1: this front seven. That's that's when if you're Seahawks fan,
Speaker 1: you're troubled. Because this game they started slow, like Mark said,
Speaker 1: and then they scored back to back touchdowns and there
Speaker 1: are fourteen, nine or ten minutes to play in the
Speaker 1: third quarter, and Seahawks teams of old, maybe they get
Speaker 1: a defensive score and they kick a couple of field goals, uh,
Speaker 1: and they're on their way to a twenty four seventeen
Speaker 1: win or something. But in this case, they give up
Speaker 1: then three straight touchdowns and it's like, WHOA, what happened
Speaker 1: to this special defense making one last run together? Sheldon
Speaker 1: Richardson now on the line, what happened to all of that?
Speaker 1: And that it just seems like the team is suffering
Speaker 1: from a little bit of a crisis and confidence. Perhaps
Speaker 1: it doesn't have any mojo, and you're seeing it on
Speaker 1: the field against a good Titans team and I'll say
Speaker 1: it tight tens. Oh yeah, they proved it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get listen. I wasn't even a high bar. It's like
Speaker 1: Seattle's a struggling NFC power But you know they did
Speaker 1: an in Seattle. Well, the look on Mike Malarkey's face
Speaker 1: at the end when they when he realized it was
Speaker 1: finally going in his favor, I can think he thought
Speaker 1: this was a big opponent to beat. One last thing.
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman had three penalties on one play in this thing.
Speaker 1: It was there was some crazy stuff going on. There
Speaker 1: was another play where a fight broke out after after
Speaker 1: he hit Marcus Mariota with clear helmet helmet, big scuffles. Well,
Speaker 1: I thought he came very close, but it was not.
Speaker 1: That's not actually a personal foul. And how can you
Speaker 1: get three penalties and one play he got called for
Speaker 1: defensive past interference, he got called the passes intercepted, and
Speaker 1: then he got called for offensive holding for holding while
Speaker 1: camp Chancellor was trying to make a runback, and then
Speaker 1: he ripped his helmet off and was yelling at the
Speaker 1: rest and they threw the flag front sports and conduct
Speaker 1: the opposite of a hat trick. If you're a Seahawks fan,
Speaker 1: what a hat trick it was. Let's move on with
Speaker 1: another great NFC game. Look's gonna throw and it's caught.
Speaker 1: It is a touchstown for Golden tight and it was
Speaker 1: the slat arts on the left after betting to play.
Speaker 1: The ruling on the field has changed. Let's let's touchdown.
Speaker 1: It's a half of yard line. He was short of
Speaker 1: the goal line. By rule, we would go back to
Speaker 1: a running clock and we have a ten second runoff.
Speaker 1: So by rule of the game is over. Well, you
Speaker 1: don't think this shouldn't go stir some stuff up? How
Speaker 1: about that? That was westerham uh w z g c uh.
Speaker 1: That is not how that game was supposed to end.
Speaker 1: I I understand the rules that are in place. They
Speaker 1: got the call right, but that is very frustrating. And
Speaker 1: and if if you didn't see the game, he had
Speaker 1: Golden tate what looked like the game winning touchdown. They
Speaker 1: were down thirty in the last minute. He gets knocked
Speaker 1: down at the goal line. It looked like a bald
Speaker 1: crossed over, but it didn't. And when they did that,
Speaker 1: it wasn't challenged by it. It was the official review
Speaker 1: and they ruled that he didn't get in, which was
Speaker 1: the right call. But there's something wrong with that mark
Speaker 1: the idea that they're they're not giving the team a
Speaker 1: chance to end the game. It's not the team against
Speaker 1: the team in the last play. I just don't like
Speaker 1: that rule, and I wish it would be amended in
Speaker 1: the future. I mean, it's rough optics to have a
Speaker 1: game and the way it did, because if you're in
Speaker 1: the stands and you and you heard the reaction and
Speaker 1: you're got to half of these Lions fans piling out
Speaker 1: of the stadium, they have no idea what actually just happened,
Speaker 1: and they certainly don't agree with it. The call is
Speaker 1: technically right, but it's the most frustrating way for a
Speaker 1: game to end. It's a tough rule, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it's one where there's an easy solution. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to get bogged down in this, but you
Speaker 1: can come up with scenarios where it's completely unfair to
Speaker 1: the defense if you don't have the ten second runoff.
Speaker 1: So I don't know they this was this was an
Speaker 1: addition to the rule book essentially because of plays that
Speaker 1: ended games that infuriated fans in the opposite direction. But okay,
Speaker 1: I get that, but what you're doing there then you're
Speaker 1: making the assumption that Detroit would not have been able
Speaker 1: to stop the clock, and that that's not their fault either,
Speaker 1: because they never got it wasn't their fault. They had
Speaker 1: bad luck there. They also might not have in that
Speaker 1: that playoff, and from the sound of it, you thought
Speaker 1: that they this was really about them stealing the game
Speaker 1: if they had won it. That for the most part,
Speaker 1: the Falcons looked like the better team. The Falcons are
Speaker 1: kind of weird this season because obviously they had a
Speaker 1: record breaking type offense last season, and for most of
Speaker 1: this game it was the same exact situation. They moved
Speaker 1: the ball at will, uh, they're punter, didn't even sniff
Speaker 1: the field for most of the game, and they just
Speaker 1: got killed. Matt Ryan through three interceptions. I want to say,
Speaker 1: upon watching the game the first time, two were in
Speaker 1: his fault. Maybe all three would have to check it
Speaker 1: out again, but he didn't have a bad game. Three
Speaker 1: picks is misleading, um and and what Detroit did They
Speaker 1: hung around They gotta pick six, which they kept them
Speaker 1: in the game in the first half. They kept on
Speaker 1: anching closer and closer. And then what Detroit does. And
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people say, you know these
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown drives by Matt Stafford, it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a a stat that's a little phony on
Speaker 1: some level, but he did it again. It was it
Speaker 1: was not the pretty drive. Their flags all over the field,
Speaker 1: but he let him down the field again and just
Speaker 1: to have that touchdown, we're near touchdown white the way
Speaker 1: to end the game. Uh, Atlanta escaped with a win,
Speaker 1: even though they played better. It was a very strange game.
Speaker 1: This has not been a season of close games until
Speaker 1: this Sunday. But the Falcons are a great example of
Speaker 1: how crazy the NFL can change. They can easily be
Speaker 1: one and two two plays ended. On the last play
Speaker 1: through nothing the Falcons did right a drop passed by
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard and then this coming up a happen in
Speaker 1: short of winning the game. Well, that said, they're hanging in.
Speaker 1: I I realized the offense is probably not going to
Speaker 1: reach the heights of last year, and that's hard to
Speaker 1: ask a team statistically to do that two years in
Speaker 1: a row. Steve Sarkisian has done a nice job overall
Speaker 1: doing I was like one of the best offenses in
Speaker 1: the league. I'm very encouraged by the fact that DeVonta
Speaker 1: Freeman and Tevin Coleman, in the league where you cannot
Speaker 1: really count on running backs from one from one year
Speaker 1: to the next, still look very dangerous. Been fascinating today.
Speaker 1: He looked great on some of those runs were just excellent.
Speaker 1: And he's the guy that it looks like he's worth
Speaker 1: the money. I know some people said maybe he wasn't,
Speaker 1: but out of this for baby so three and oh
Speaker 1: the Falcons are and that's a good place to be.
Speaker 1: But you'r Greg's right, they could be wanted two. So
Speaker 1: maybe maybe after the Super Bowl fifty one devastation, karmas
Speaker 1: on their well, they now play the entire a f
Speaker 1: C East with their bye week squeezed in really in
Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, Bills by Dolphins Patriots by also known
Speaker 1: as the Jets. Let's well, don't be so sure, you're right,
Speaker 1: don't be so sure. We'll get to it in a
Speaker 1: little bit. Let's move on another NFC matchup. Pass right
Speaker 1: caught Jicks at the forty touchdown. Paul Allen kay f
Speaker 1: X and case Keenum went nuts in his second straight
Speaker 1: start in place of Sam Bradford, passing for three touchdowns
Speaker 1: a career best three hundred sixty nine yards no turnovers,
Speaker 1: leading the I mean figure out this week. This was
Speaker 1: a crazy week, started with a crazy presidential talk and
Speaker 1: then all the games were crazy. What's going on in
Speaker 1: this universe anyway? A thirty four seventeen win for the Vikings,
Speaker 1: an easy win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Minneapolis,
Speaker 1: Greg The Bucks crashed the earth after their big debut
Speaker 1: last week, and the Vikings again showed how dangerous they
Speaker 1: can be when everything's clicking, even with Case Keenum. I mean,
Speaker 1: you you said it this week. You know, it's been
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about, you know, respecting the flag. Look,
Speaker 1: these protests were not about respecting the flag. Has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with that. One flag I respect. You don't
Speaker 1: know where this is going. One flag I respect and
Speaker 1: I'm bringing it back out was Chris Westerlyan's freak flag
Speaker 1: for Case keenom. This was the best performance I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: That doesn't even I mean, this is after you know,
Speaker 1: roughly seventeen terrible Case appearances. This is back in two
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen when when wester Or two thousand fourteen like
Speaker 1: the cut of Keenum's jib, and it was a flashback
Speaker 1: to that. His first half was sensational. Two hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty plus yr. He ends up with three sixty nine
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns and these were some pretty vertical throws.
Speaker 1: And he's obviously benefiting from what we saw in week one,
Speaker 1: which is Stefan Diggs and Adam Theeling are about as
Speaker 1: dynamic as it gets right now. For a receiving combination,
Speaker 1: they have to be up there with any tandem in
Speaker 1: the league, and they were making incredible plays on the ball.
Speaker 1: So they deserve a lot of credit and Keenum deserves
Speaker 1: it for serving and up to those guys and a
Speaker 1: Bucks defense, which they've been feisty. They've been getting to
Speaker 1: the quarterback over the last you know, going stretching back
Speaker 1: to last season, zero sacks on Keenum and this is
Speaker 1: an offensity years so stuck in the mud. It started
Speaker 1: with their line Adrian Peterson dealing with injuries. He had
Speaker 1: nothing behind him and Stefan Diggs got hurt. Now you're
Speaker 1: looking at Dalvin Cook Diggs Feeling and if you get
Speaker 1: Bradford back next week. You have a legitimate cast of
Speaker 1: weapons on offense to go with one of the NFC's
Speaker 1: best defense. And if you don't like, can you keep
Speaker 1: this season afloat until he's back. Let's say he's back
Speaker 1: to three four weeks, keenam if he can get wins
Speaker 1: at home, if you can really dominate a team like
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. Uh, the Vikings defense is obviously great, Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook look great again. You know, maybe they can just
Speaker 1: keep winning enough games with Keen for when Bradford. All
Speaker 1: I would say though, is that as random and bizarre
Speaker 1: as his performance was today, You've got the Lions, Bears
Speaker 1: and Packers next that. We have no idea what we're
Speaker 1: gonna get from Keen, right, this is just but the
Speaker 1: rest of the team. The rest of the team is
Speaker 1: good in the home field advantage and you talked about it, Dan,
Speaker 1: I think is real. I think I think it's a
Speaker 1: great place to play at home. Case Keen m eight
Speaker 1: times out of ten, maybe nine is going to be
Speaker 1: the guy. Last week they got this version of him
Speaker 1: and that's nice because the game him a win and
Speaker 1: they had the ball from was thirty eight minutes in
Speaker 1: this game that next week, Vikings Lions becomes one of
Speaker 1: the first divisional showdowns in the NFC with a lot
Speaker 1: riding on it. Hubba, hubba, Let's move on to a
Speaker 1: little inter conference football. I'm not going down this again.
Speaker 1: Needs to get first. I got him all sides down
Speaker 1: the feel, he's open, wide open. Allison cuts back. They
Speaker 1: got him in another move. It's got chone in Troy
Speaker 1: to let me gets passed. Somebody's down to the six. WHOA.
Speaker 1: I love that. CBS called Tony Romo and um Jim
Speaker 1: nance with the call. Aaron Rodgers seventy two yard passed
Speaker 1: the Geronimo Allison in overtime set up Mason Crosby's twenty
Speaker 1: seven yard field goals. The Green Bay Packers rallied to
Speaker 1: beat the Cincinnati Bengals four at Lambeau. Uh oh, what
Speaker 1: a killer loss for Cincinnati. They had seven lead in
Speaker 1: the first half, had a pick six of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I believe it was the first pick six Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has ever had in his career. But all the issues
Speaker 1: that have driven Cincinnati fans crazy since the first weekend
Speaker 1: of September popped up again. Their offense went into a
Speaker 1: shell in the second half, and it opened the door
Speaker 1: for Rogers and he did the rest um And now
Speaker 1: the Bengals guys are oh and three. Especially, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that their season's over because you know who knows
Speaker 1: what's going to the A C North right now, every
Speaker 1: other team lost in the division. This would have been
Speaker 1: a great job to get a win here, get back
Speaker 1: in the division and feel good about yourself. Instead a
Speaker 1: potentially seasoned, crushing loss. Just oh you got you got again.
Speaker 1: You gotta close out these type of games. I think
Speaker 1: we felt, and we were saying this to each other
Speaker 1: that even when it was one to seven and everything
Speaker 1: it looked like it was going right for Cincinnati, you
Speaker 1: could just feel the tide slowly turning. I will say
Speaker 1: this about Bill Laser, the new O C that he
Speaker 1: clearly went out of his way. That's right, sounds like
Speaker 1: four dead, but apparently hopefully those people are alive. But
Speaker 1: A J. Green he's schemed to get him heavily involved
Speaker 1: after A J. Green was furious after that Thursday night loss,
Speaker 1: and in the backfield, I do think Cincinnati they're gonna
Speaker 1: come but get back into this thing. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: on the shoulders of Joe Mixon who almost doubled the
Speaker 1: touches out of the backfield of Bernard and Jeremy Hill today.
Speaker 1: So he's got enough with the training wheels. This guy
Speaker 1: is your running back. Here's the takeaway from me for
Speaker 1: the game, because I watched this game closely. This loss
Speaker 1: was on Andy Dalton. And I know it's easy to
Speaker 1: pile on against Andy Dalton right now, but they lost
Speaker 1: this game because Andy Dalton didn't execute on several possessions
Speaker 1: in the second half that would have ice this game. Uh.
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, who again did a great job. We don't
Speaker 1: have to do this every week, explain how great Romo
Speaker 1: is doing in his job. But there was one drive
Speaker 1: where um, where Green Bay stacked the box on first down.
Speaker 1: This is late in the game, uh, and hanging in
Speaker 1: the balance and and Dalton didn't check out of the play. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then on third down, a crucial third down, Brandon
Speaker 1: LaFell crossed the wide open right in front of Andy Dalton,
Speaker 1: who felt pressure prematurely and then didn't just never even
Speaker 1: targeted LaFell. That was a killer. He missed a deep
Speaker 1: throw also in this game. Uh. I mean this, Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton needs to play better to help his team in
Speaker 1: a spot like this, and he just didn't have it.
Speaker 1: Did you make a switch at some point three and
Speaker 1: a three and out in the first possession of overtime,
Speaker 1: the one of the coin toss nothing, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think they would give him a longer rope. But
Speaker 1: what what Romo noticed is really consistent with what people
Speaker 1: who have been watching the tape say about Dalton in
Speaker 1: these first games, that he's not seeing the field, that
Speaker 1: he's he's seeing ghosts, he's not seen what's there in
Speaker 1: front of him, which you wouldn't expect that of a
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. But but it's happening right He has absolutely regressed.
Speaker 1: Uh And, and it's killing them. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's certainly possible, especially now. And I don't know who
Speaker 1: they have next, but if if they ever fell into
Speaker 1: an own four hole, I don't see why they wouldn't
Speaker 1: pull the trigger to just to try to salvage the
Speaker 1: season and breathe some life into the team, because it
Speaker 1: has to be frustrating playing with Dalton right now. Uh And,
Speaker 1: and the Brown's next that may not be well. I
Speaker 1: don't know that that's a get healthy game, but we'll see. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing I'll say is Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: the game they were down seen late. Uh again Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: He fit a ball into a tiny window to Jordy
Speaker 1: Nelson to tie the game. Uh late. That only Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: And I love how self aware he is. After the game,
Speaker 1: he was asked by Tracy Wolfson about, you know, his
Speaker 1: overtime record, and and he even threw at the you know,
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter comebacks. He's been you know, dings for
Speaker 1: not really having fourth quarter comebacks, and here he gets
Speaker 1: his fourth quarter comeback. Here he gets off this random
Speaker 1: o and seven overtime schneid. And he knew, he knew
Speaker 1: all about it, like he he was like, he's like,
Speaker 1: all right, got the got those off my back. I mean,
Speaker 1: for all the weird stuff that happened to some things
Speaker 1: were very normal. Josh Jones, by the way, quickly they
Speaker 1: really looked like they found something in the Packers safety
Speaker 1: that that could be a big adding was making a
Speaker 1: lot of plays. If he's consistent, Let's move on, breeze
Speaker 1: out of the shotgun. Looks right, can't find anybody. Now
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw it deep down the middle. For ted
Speaker 1: Kin at the goal line. The former Panther touchdown Saints
Speaker 1: Jim Anderson w w L Drew Brees had no problem
Speaker 1: dissecting the NFL's top ranked defense throwing for two yards
Speaker 1: of three touchdowns. Is the Saints whipped up on the
Speaker 1: Panther Shaw Let go figure mark credit where creditors do.
Speaker 1: The Saints couldn't have looked more out of sorts in
Speaker 1: the first two weeks, but they studied the ship with
Speaker 1: this impressive road performance. Credit where credit is due. Someone
Speaker 1: in this studio named Mark Sessler picked U on the
Speaker 1: pick him. You're confidently first, Mark Sessler, third person. I
Speaker 1: think so. It's also the first correct Mark Sussler prediction
Speaker 1: of the season. Congrats, absolutely incorrect. I also picked the
Speaker 1: Broncos of the Raiders with you two giggling at me.
Speaker 1: So your record, your record keeping his off. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the game, this is the game that I
Speaker 1: think Cam Newton that quiet concerned about Cam Newton having
Speaker 1: this game all season. It's it looks like the floor
Speaker 1: fill out finally this morning for him, and I guess
Speaker 1: the upside is maybe you look at Christian McCaffrey really
Speaker 1: had a major role in this offense today, but they
Speaker 1: this is the Panthers team that I am be concerned about. Well,
Speaker 1: the shocking part is that the Saints offensive line primarily
Speaker 1: and the Saints offense as a whole, really had their
Speaker 1: way with the defense that I was talking up as
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league and looked as
Speaker 1: good as anyone. And the Saints not on turf on
Speaker 1: the road in a huge spot, because otherwise you're oh
Speaker 1: and three and you're heading over to London next week.
Speaker 1: You're done. It feels very done with two three and
Speaker 1: oh teams in your division. The Falcons still are three,
Speaker 1: you know, but that's a major win for a team
Speaker 1: just trying to stay relevant. That they come out there,
Speaker 1: and Drew Brees has been overall pretty sharp this season.
Speaker 1: I think the problems have been really around him, and
Speaker 1: that they held off Carolina and really did what they
Speaker 1: wanted of This was such an impressive win for the Saints.
Speaker 1: And we've given the Saints a ton of grief this
Speaker 1: season about how they started in generally the direction of
Speaker 1: that organization in the last three or four years, you
Speaker 1: just kind of been meandering along as a middling unit.
Speaker 1: And perhaps they'll lay another egg next week we'll be
Speaker 1: right back in that position. But for now, that's a
Speaker 1: big win. And as we were talking up the Panthers
Speaker 1: as a potential big time NFC bounce back, um, you know,
Speaker 1: superpower of the season market. Maybe and maybe this is
Speaker 1: the sign of bigger problems from we'll see um. But
Speaker 1: give credit to the STS. One game. It's a division
Speaker 1: game between coaches and teams that know each other. I
Speaker 1: do think that really matters. Like when you look at
Speaker 1: the Jets Dolphin, so that that's coming up and in
Speaker 1: different surprising games Texans Patriots, who might as well be
Speaker 1: in the same division because they play once or twice
Speaker 1: every year. It's like, I think that does make a
Speaker 1: big difference. I mean, now Carolina has to go into
Speaker 1: New England next week. I just you look at their schedule,
Speaker 1: you look at the whole overall thing. Cam Newton's help
Speaker 1: the kind when your quarterback is is not fully there.
Speaker 1: It's the kind of thing where you read stories in
Speaker 1: April and May where he's acknowledging. I was never really
Speaker 1: you know, I'm surprised because last week I was pretty
Speaker 1: impressed by the fastball and overall how he played for
Speaker 1: most of that game, despite the score, his arm looks fine.
Speaker 1: I agree with you and that it's just it's not
Speaker 1: all there yet. One thing in that game, there was
Speaker 1: a scary looking injury for Kelvin Benjamin. It looks like
Speaker 1: the NFL network considerate and Rapp Reports said that he
Speaker 1: was told in quotes, he do you it's fine. While
Speaker 1: we're updated Andrews, I'm gonna throw in one Lavonte. David,
Speaker 1: it's been announced has a high ankle spring by our
Speaker 1: guy uh Ian Rappaports. So that really outlines it was
Speaker 1: a brutal day for the Bucks, who are missing Brent
Speaker 1: Grimes also lost Noah Spense to an injury. So that
Speaker 1: Buck's defense and really team as a whole head of
Speaker 1: brutal day. Ouch. That's you have no idea how long
Speaker 1: they'll be with our David, who's one of the key
Speaker 1: members of that defense. Um. By the way, before we
Speaker 1: move into the next game, I just want to you know,
Speaker 1: I get excited about things. Some things are about football,
Speaker 1: some things aren't about football. Some things are about the
Speaker 1: best damn show on television. What's the plan to shade
Speaker 1: the world? It sounds like a suicide mission? What was
Speaker 1: that actually gently made Russia declare war on Norway. Scorpion
Speaker 1: season begins. Cept yes, Scorpions back tomorrow. That operative sounds
Speaker 1: a little bit in over her head. Wait that was
Speaker 1: that was the season? You can't make these these up.
Speaker 1: They really don't sound real. And I will one day,
Speaker 1: you know, I will catch up. I'll do a little
Speaker 1: binge watch maybe in the off season. But this episode,
Speaker 1: that's such a great cell about the Russian Norway thing,
Speaker 1: very timely. I might even plug in on that, like
Speaker 1: watch it real time commercials and everything. I mean, you
Speaker 1: should mean take a sabbatical, maybe take a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks off from the unit you work here. I mean, wait,
Speaker 1: what did Norway ever do to Anyway? That's one of
Speaker 1: the happiest, nicest places on earth. It's why it was
Speaker 1: a mistake according to this female wa umlus cannet. Have
Speaker 1: you seen an episode of CBS is Scorpion? Have not?
Speaker 1: I thought maybe we were going to get one? Yeah? Sorry,
Speaker 1: is there any al right? I want to know what
Speaker 1: your your television programming watching is in general, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite show's favorite show let me come back to me.
Speaker 1: It would be Director. She's got a long list of
Speaker 1: I have a huge list, so you can't even you know,
Speaker 1: all right, well you under pressure you kind of a
Speaker 1: big young Yeah, she's a big young Sheldon fan. I
Speaker 1: know that you're a big Marty scores C's fan him. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. Moving on. Let's check in with the
Speaker 1: New York football team, starting with Martin. Are we expecting
Speaker 1: this one? Yeah? But it's sixty one yard? Oh, Bryn
Speaker 1: h full. The spot of the kick is away and
Speaker 1: the kick is it? This is that dream I talked
Speaker 1: about day win. He's had this bright before. Sixty war yards,
Speaker 1: the longest kick at Eagles restoring. Wow, let's clip that
Speaker 1: one off. I think that should be at least in
Speaker 1: the discussion for the top ten radio calls of seen
Speaker 1: Meryl Reis w y sp Jake Elliott kicked a sixty
Speaker 1: one yard field goal as the clock expired to lift
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles to victory over the New York Giants
Speaker 1: at the Ink, again, another killer loss for team that
Speaker 1: needed to win and couldn't close out a game. Elliott's
Speaker 1: dramatic heroes dropped the Giants oh and three, but the
Speaker 1: Eagles the top the NFC's to two one, two and
Speaker 1: one for the time being, and Greg uh it looked
Speaker 1: for a while like Big Blue had had their seven
Speaker 1: season saving win in hand and they just couldn't figure
Speaker 1: it out. This game was awesome. It reminds me of
Speaker 1: the old Stefan skit on SNL. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. Like this this game had everything, comebacks, blown
Speaker 1: fourth downs, injuries, shanks, punt's, rookie kickers, you know, bear traps.
Speaker 1: Everything was it. But like you can watch this game,
Speaker 1: it's got a little bit of like everything. Yea indoor
Speaker 1: snow storms. The Philadelphia's hottest club is the link. Uh.
Speaker 1: It was crazy to watch, but also my biggest takeaway
Speaker 1: it was hard in this sort of game, was to
Speaker 1: give Carson Wentz and the Eagles offense a little credit
Speaker 1: on a bad day ends a good defense. Overall, the
Speaker 1: last three times they got the ball they needed to
Speaker 1: score their trailingen, they have their best drive of the
Speaker 1: day and they go score a touchdown. They need to
Speaker 1: kick a field goal to tie it late. He pulls
Speaker 1: it off and then to set up that game winning
Speaker 1: field goal plays that which is gonna get Overlook Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz nineteen yards, very tough throw to Alston Jeffrey, who
Speaker 1: fights for it, gets out of bounds with one second left.
Speaker 1: That was the longest play passing by far from Wentz
Speaker 1: all day. So it was not a great day for Wentz,
Speaker 1: but ultimately they got it done when it really mattered.
Speaker 1: If you're looking at it from the giant sideline, Eli
Speaker 1: Manning passes three sixty six yards, some clutch throws down
Speaker 1: the stretch or is there anything to take away from this?
Speaker 1: It says that New York's offense, which was utterly broken
Speaker 1: over the first two weeks, has any ray of hope?
Speaker 1: Or was this amarage people? They not realize they were
Speaker 1: shut out again for three quarters in this game, and
Speaker 1: then Beckham Uh and Eli got hot two straight touchdowns
Speaker 1: in three minutes. And then when I thought, again, this
Speaker 1: has been a very strange week in the NFL, when
Speaker 1: Eli throws what I thought was a beautiful pass to
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd, who then took at the distance seventy seven yards.
Speaker 1: They're up with seven twelve to play, with their season
Speaker 1: on the line. He just stunned the Eagles one touchdown
Speaker 1: in twenty nine possessions, and then they scored three in
Speaker 1: five minutes. I've been watching football for thirty years, and
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of teams like these, these Giants,
Speaker 1: teams that are maybe not terrible teams, but they're in
Speaker 1: a terrible way in those In those situations, they almost
Speaker 1: always then closed out the game. But they didn't do it.
Speaker 1: The defense couldn't get the stop and then with a
Speaker 1: bad punt, uh and then unable alshon Jeffrey with a
Speaker 1: big catch. The grad wing is kind of the goat
Speaker 1: because he shanked a punt. The game is basically going
Speaker 1: to o t if he didn't have that punt. And
Speaker 1: it did remind me of one of the things that
Speaker 1: I've always I feel like it's not just me personally.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people relate to this. When
Speaker 1: the kicker or hunter does something to kill your team,
Speaker 1: whether it's a miskick or a shank or stupid personal foul,
Speaker 1: and then they cut him on the sideline and their
Speaker 1: helmet comes off and they look ridiculous for some reason,
Speaker 1: like in Brad wings case he has big bleached like
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber hair, or like Matt Prador with Mat Prators
Speaker 1: having a great season by the way, but you know,
Speaker 1: I don't like your friend got Matt Prador problems. Uh,
Speaker 1: Matt Prators earring dangling like I don't like that, or
Speaker 1: at or Mike vander Jack back in the day with
Speaker 1: his like bleached tips and stuff. You don't want the
Speaker 1: camera cutting over to your kicker slash punter after he
Speaker 1: blows the game for you and then he's looking like that,
Speaker 1: I don't know what. You're right, that's a fascinating rent.
Speaker 1: It's it's totally it's totally fair and so frustrating for
Speaker 1: the more conservative guys there. Now. Oh and they're not
Speaker 1: oh and two in the division and the Eagles are
Speaker 1: two and oh in the division. And this is a
Speaker 1: great case of the Eagles managing the schedule, because I
Speaker 1: know it was that the Giants and they had him
Speaker 1: shut out through three weeks. But in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: this is a game the Eagles should have lost. They
Speaker 1: were missing four play is in their secondary going into
Speaker 1: the game, essentially all of them starters, and then in
Speaker 1: the game they lost Fletcher Cox and Jordan Hicks maybe
Speaker 1: the players who are playing as well as anyone on
Speaker 1: their defense, and Darren Sprawls, so they are down six
Speaker 1: starters and on defense and Sprawls gets her and things
Speaker 1: aren't going right, and they find a way to win
Speaker 1: and they did it surprisingly by running the ball down
Speaker 1: the throats of the Giants. They had a seventeen play
Speaker 1: drive with thirteen runs. They ran for a hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety three yards. Le Garrett Blunt ran really well. When
Speaker 1: the small wood ran really well. Clamat Clamatte had a
Speaker 1: random touchdown out of nowhere like a very good thing.
Speaker 1: So they won, winning in a different sort of Eagles
Speaker 1: Giants seventeen carries forty nine yards um and one last
Speaker 1: thing before we move on, um, where do you guys
Speaker 1: come down on Eli Manning's um first touchdown in the season.
Speaker 1: He gets down on all fours like a dog? Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham I should have said that should have been in
Speaker 1: the stefan thing. That was a missed opportunity, a man
Speaker 1: for time to be a dog pissing on the end.
Speaker 1: It would have been more interesting had it been Eli
Speaker 1: Manning course in the end zone. Then p's on the
Speaker 1: Eagles end zone? Are we pro or now I'm in
Speaker 1: they I I'm not. I'm the last guy to pick
Speaker 1: on celebration. But pen and getting a penalty you don't
Speaker 1: you don't want, you don't want the pen penalty? Is
Speaker 1: it that funny? Is it that. The funniest part is
Speaker 1: he scored three minutes later in game time, and then
Speaker 1: his second celebration was put the fist up to make
Speaker 1: a social statement. But it's just so funny that he
Speaker 1: was like, all right, if I score the first time,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pretend to be a dog and p on
Speaker 1: the end zone. Score second time, that's what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take my stand. And what it's not, it's not mental.
Speaker 1: What time? I don't know. Yeah, the third time, like
Speaker 1: you know, he should be mentioned. He did kind of
Speaker 1: look like the old Odell in the second half of
Speaker 1: that game, showing some juice and that in those two
Speaker 1: touchdown catches were outrageous. The second one is one of
Speaker 1: the all time great Odell Beckham catches. It will get lost,
Speaker 1: but just if you think about the angle and the
Speaker 1: hand and how he had to take that thing down,
Speaker 1: it was impossible, I mean he was doing and extra
Speaker 1: frustrating because it's for a team that's completely lost at
Speaker 1: Sea on offense is not going to get saved this season.
Speaker 1: Only Aaron Rodgers can make that throw, Only or Dell
Speaker 1: Beckham can make that catch. But in a losing effort,
Speaker 1: Eli played well in the second half. By the way,
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. That's nice. After two picks in
Speaker 1: the first, let's move on. Throws a bomb down to
Speaker 1: right side. Look at for Anderson. He's got it instrid
Speaker 1: ten five touchdown. Robbie Anderson turns on the Jets literally,
Speaker 1: Josh McCown drops it right down the chimney. Yeah he did.
Speaker 1: Bob was shoes in the ESPN Radio Santa Claus Josh McCown,
Speaker 1: that's a tough throw into that. In a second, Josh
Speaker 1: McCown through a sixty nine yard touchdown past the Robbie
Speaker 1: Anderson and the Jets had no problem shutting down Jay Cutler,
Speaker 1: Jagi and the rest of the Miami Dolphins a six
Speaker 1: win at MetLife Stadium. H The Dolphins had two first
Speaker 1: downs in the first half, um they scored their only
Speaker 1: points and of the game on the final play in
Speaker 1: garbage time, and the Jets um first win. You know,
Speaker 1: it might not help in the scam for Sam department,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what, it was real quiet, and
Speaker 1: I mentions no Dolphins fans were nowhere to be found.
Speaker 1: It always feels good to cut the fish. I mean
Speaker 1: to the point where you send I believe a somewhat
Speaker 1: edgy text to a child who's under the age of
Speaker 1: ten's so called not rooting for the Jets to win
Speaker 1: thing from handas flies out the window for three hours
Speaker 1: every Sunday, it should be noticed. Well, I am a
Speaker 1: true fan. I have I on a bigger prize, but
Speaker 1: when I could take down the Dolphins in a big spot,
Speaker 1: I love it. Uh. Let's by the way, let's check
Speaker 1: in with my dad, who, uh, who's had to deal
Speaker 1: with a lot of losing for the Jets in the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. In a nice win today, what's
Speaker 1: Keith gotta say? His name is Keith. He'll doubt about it.
Speaker 1: He's a league Jets fan. Well does he go to
Speaker 1: say games to say? Well? Does he go to games
Speaker 1: to say because Keiths? Great victory by the Jets today.
Speaker 1: Outstanding defense, ball game shut down the Dolphins, and the
Speaker 1: offense led by McGown was outstanding. Uh. He had one
Speaker 1: of the best passing performances I've seen by a Jet
Speaker 1: quarterback in a long time. So it was a great
Speaker 1: victory defensively and offensively. So at least that's one win
Speaker 1: for the season. That's great, by all right, that's Josh
Speaker 1: McCown's having a nice season, by the way, and they
Speaker 1: made the right decision to bring him on because, Uh,
Speaker 1: he's he's doing what he has to do with that
Speaker 1: offense on the Dolphins side of the ball. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. I mean, this was
Speaker 1: a no show performance by the Dolphins and all the
Speaker 1: positive talk about it, you know how they looked in
Speaker 1: Week one, and anybody who thought the team is going
Speaker 1: to go back to the playoffs this is a game,
Speaker 1: was like, what is going on with this team? I
Speaker 1: don't know if there was a team that's more reliant
Speaker 1: on a running back right now than Miami. And when
Speaker 1: you take Jgi out of the mix the way they
Speaker 1: did today, and it's the kind of performance by the
Speaker 1: Jets run defense that in years past you potentially could
Speaker 1: have expected, I wouldn't have this week, and with him
Speaker 1: out of the mix, it sounds like Jay Cutler was
Speaker 1: absolutely they put the wood to Jay Cutler. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: had no problem keeping Cutler and checking and he was limited. Uh,
Speaker 1: he threw forty four passes for two yards through a pick.
Speaker 1: He was very mediocre. Um and j j I cannot
Speaker 1: get moving and which is surprising because the Jets had
Speaker 1: been getting gashed on the run in the first two weeks.
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze after the game was, you know, predictably unhappy,
Speaker 1: very short with his answers, asking you know, what did
Speaker 1: he say to his team? He said, there's nothing to say.
Speaker 1: Look at the scoreboard, you know, how can they jump
Speaker 1: start the offense? He's like, maybe score some points, maybe
Speaker 1: get a first down? Like he he is very upset,
Speaker 1: and you start to think about the where on this
Speaker 1: team mentally. It's not making an excuse for them. It's
Speaker 1: a fact of what they went through, uh with the
Speaker 1: hurricane and then going on the West Coast and now
Speaker 1: going to New York and they're going from New York
Speaker 1: over to London. That's a tough way to start the season.
Speaker 1: And so this is kind of this is a circle
Speaker 1: the wagons week for the Dolphins in London. It's a
Speaker 1: big spot for them, is all. Is all. I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They gotta prove, They're gotta prove that they can bounce.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you because watching Josh McCown of
Speaker 1: the last two seasons on a bad Browns team that
Speaker 1: hidden away in his awful win loss record, it couldn't
Speaker 1: have been any worse. Worse sundays like this where he
Speaker 1: made a couple of throws where you realize, this is
Speaker 1: an incredibly athletic guy. He's gonna have a couple of
Speaker 1: games where he spilled into nearly four hundred yards in
Speaker 1: those seasons and he's and he's the kind of guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna win you four or five games with the Jets. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see about that. Well, I'm just saying, they listen,
Speaker 1: they gotta stay healthy. He's also got when you look
Speaker 1: at what Robbie Anderson has larting to developed, Jermyne Curse
Speaker 1: has looked good with New York. I'm just saying this
Speaker 1: is not necessarily the the recipe for a one in
Speaker 1: fifteen season. Anyone slamming McCown this year hasn't watched the
Speaker 1: games he played. I thought pretty well in the Week
Speaker 1: one for three quarters and then had a complete meltdown.
Speaker 1: He was fine last week, and then you're talking this
Speaker 1: is like for three weeks. On balance, he's far from
Speaker 1: the Jet exactly what they wanted a professional quarterback on
Speaker 1: an inexperienced team. We'll see if he could stay on
Speaker 1: the field. Let's move on touchdown land un sixty large.
Speaker 1: That's our friend Kevin Harlan. Evin Harlan of CBS, of
Speaker 1: course in Westwood one Monday night football, but big play
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt struck again and the Chiefs defense made life
Speaker 1: miserable for Philip Rivers over the Los Angeles Chargers at
Speaker 1: the stub. I'm going to say that I'll try to
Speaker 1: get that because it's at the stub. Alex Smith threw
Speaker 1: two more touchdowns on the Chargers have started their uncertain
Speaker 1: l a journey with three consecutive losses. Not ideal, Greg, Now,
Speaker 1: they didn't look like a team that deserved to win.
Speaker 1: You know, you can usually come up with reasons. And yes,
Speaker 1: they were beating the Chiefs in terms of total yardage
Speaker 1: for much of the game, but ultimately the Chargers defense
Speaker 1: shut down Kansas City for much of the game, including
Speaker 1: the entire second half until that Hunt play, which was
Speaker 1: really the game was over at that point, and Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers kept getting the ball over and over and they
Speaker 1: couldn't put up a point. This needed to be an
Speaker 1: offensive team, and ultimately they haven't scored enough. It was
Speaker 1: a bad Philip Rivers game. Three interceptions in the first half,
Speaker 1: and in the second half it was like he was
Speaker 1: a little until you know, just some passes that he
Speaker 1: normally makes. We're flying all over the place. And I mean,
Speaker 1: to be honest, we looked at that, we looked at
Speaker 1: the television screen, and it looked like a massive turnout
Speaker 1: for Chiefs fans. That's the second week in a row where,
Speaker 1: if you're Philip Rivers, you're not playing in a place
Speaker 1: where it looks like the home field is going to
Speaker 1: make more the home team is going to make more
Speaker 1: noise than the visitor week after week. And Anthony Lynn
Speaker 1: has got to be feeling it right now. You've lost
Speaker 1: two crushing games and it's starting to go south from
Speaker 1: you with teams like that at the start of the season.
Speaker 1: Two terrible losses, then you get beat up on. You
Speaker 1: can start to snowball. Now the Chiefs are three and o. Now, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: it was a one score game. I wouldn't say beat
Speaker 1: up until very late, but yeah, I hear you, all right,
Speaker 1: I mean, did you know what else you need to do?
Speaker 1: But at any point did you think the Charge is
Speaker 1: gonna win this game? I thought yes, because they they
Speaker 1: controlled Kansas City, they were playing pretty well on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball, like they were doubling them up
Speaker 1: in total yard agin it was a one score game
Speaker 1: more or less the whole time, I thought they had
Speaker 1: a chance, but then it didn't happen. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: they were even yards in time of possession. So but
Speaker 1: the better team figured out a way to get it done.
Speaker 1: And the Chiefs are now three and oh, Cream Hunt,
Speaker 1: what else can you say? I mean, that last touchdown
Speaker 1: really juiced his numbers, but it's now three straight weeks
Speaker 1: where he's had a huge impact for the Chiefs. And
Speaker 1: if they end up being taking the next step and
Speaker 1: and going from twelve and four or whatever to thirteen
Speaker 1: and three or fourteen two, Cream Hunt joining the team
Speaker 1: and becoming a superstar that can do that. He's special.
Speaker 1: Just his his balance, his ability to fight through tackles.
Speaker 1: Before we move on, I gotta say you don't mess
Speaker 1: with Marcus Peters back when Keenan Allen called him a
Speaker 1: bum I believe a year ago, every every time these
Speaker 1: teams faced since then, he's got this matchup circled and
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters looked like the best cornerback in football today. Uh.
Speaker 1: He thrown seven times in his way gave up three
Speaker 1: catches only twenty yards in interception a past defense he
Speaker 1: ate up Keenan Allen and whoever he was across the
Speaker 1: field from. And one last thing, two guys who I
Speaker 1: think are two last things at this point. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's chief three last things. Last three. No defensive
Speaker 1: players are playing any better than Melvin Ingram and Justin Snacks,
Speaker 1: who are again outrageous both of them and making key
Speaker 1: plays in this game. Both have just been on fire.
Speaker 1: When I was in the locker room last week, Melvin
Speaker 1: Ingram could not have been more downtrodden about that loss.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine where he was today. Let's
Speaker 1: move on and here first to ten City under crush
Speaker 1: that he's did accept it again, it's picked off fight
Speaker 1: Tred Davids White as Simmy and making another terrible decision.
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon was intercepted twice in the game's final twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: and Tyrod Taylor threw two touchdowns to lift the Bills
Speaker 1: to sixty and went over the Broncos in Western New
Speaker 1: York Mark Sessler. The Bills cooled off hashtag team trev
Speaker 1: and one for the second time in three weeks how
Speaker 1: about that well any and we already felt this way.
Speaker 1: I think about Buffalo, but a well coached team with
Speaker 1: players playing out of their minds. This concept a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago that they've tanked, that they're in position
Speaker 1: too because of roster deficiencies is utterly off the board
Speaker 1: at this point. This was a very impressive showing Tyrod
Speaker 1: Taylor's best game all season and in quite a while
Speaker 1: against the defense that destroyed the Cowboys a week ago.
Speaker 1: And it was the Trevor Simeon game that I didn't
Speaker 1: quite expect to see, not today. I think Buffalo is
Speaker 1: underrated as a tough place to go into and play
Speaker 1: number one. But Simeon down the stretch to his picks, right,
Speaker 1: I think we're off a very concerning decision making. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it it The floor fell, and it started from me.
Speaker 1: Even though Jamal Charles had a nice day on the ground,
Speaker 1: when C. J. Anderson isn't sort of the engine of
Speaker 1: that offense, and he really struggled early on that you're
Speaker 1: not going to get that same Broncos balanced attack. No,
Speaker 1: they need to win off their running game and defense,
Speaker 1: and neither one really neither showed up today, really played
Speaker 1: that well. But I'm not shocked that the Bill's defense
Speaker 1: is showing up because you watched them and they're showing
Speaker 1: up every week. Trade Avious White, it looks like a
Speaker 1: great first round pick. He flash in the first two weeks.
Speaker 1: I think they found something in your old boyd Jordan Ployer,
Speaker 1: kind of a random pick up from from the Browns.
Speaker 1: It it's interesting that the Panthers always used to pick
Speaker 1: up random guys and make them work in the secondary,
Speaker 1: and now here Sean McDermott doing it in Buffalo. I mean,
Speaker 1: this loss is not on the Broncs defense. I no
Speaker 1: von Miller, Mark maybe could shine the light on that. Uh.
Speaker 1: He put the loss on him based on a personal
Speaker 1: foul he had uh late in the game. Um, that
Speaker 1: was huge, and it was It was a It was
Speaker 1: a drive that allowed Buffalo, you know, they were up
Speaker 1: twenty three to sixteen, to punch in a field goal,
Speaker 1: you know, minutes later after von Miller basically had a penalty.
Speaker 1: It was an unsportsmanlike conduct call where after sacking Tyrod
Speaker 1: Taylor cleanly, he reached his hand down to as a
Speaker 1: gesture to kind of pick him up, but then pulled
Speaker 1: the hand away kind of a prank or a joke,
Speaker 1: and it would have seemed more offensive except for the
Speaker 1: fact that Tyrod Taylor was up and laughing about it.
Speaker 1: And then then the ref through the flag and it
Speaker 1: extended the drive. And I mean there were other things
Speaker 1: that happened. Tyrod Taylor on that same drive had an
Speaker 1: incredible scramble where he was essentially with with with Broncos
Speaker 1: players buzzing around him, fell down and was untouched and
Speaker 1: got back up and ran seven yards to move the chains.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a gutsy final drive by the
Speaker 1: Bills offense. Let this be a reminder this game. And
Speaker 1: I know the Bills didn't light it up, only a
Speaker 1: two seventy two yards of total off more perfect. But
Speaker 1: leave Tyrod Taylor alone. Let Tyrod Taylor just lead the team. Don't.
Speaker 1: If you're a fan in the stands, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: have some magic elixer on the bench coming in to
Speaker 1: to outperform. If you're the a Nathan Peterman, yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're yeah, I couldn't agree more. If yeah, maybe you can,
Speaker 1: maybe he is better. But Tyrod Taylor is perfectly fine.
Speaker 1: And you're off to a nice start, and the guy
Speaker 1: makes plays. I know he's not perfect, but not a
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks are. And that came with Lashawn McCoy
Speaker 1: rushing for twenty one yards off fourteen carries after a
Speaker 1: bad week. Two four touchdowns this year, one interception, obviously
Speaker 1: a factor in the running game over seven yards per attempt.
Speaker 1: He started out this season very solid week to week.
Speaker 1: Let's head, Uh, who had this one? Well? I did,
Speaker 1: and in fact, to the point where anyone when I've locked,
Speaker 1: I'm I have never apparently won a lock in September.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why I'm even allowed to participate
Speaker 1: in this at this point, but it's very clear that
Speaker 1: Bronchos fans were annoyed that I did lock it up
Speaker 1: last week. You're not going to be alone, and as
Speaker 1: everybody find out soon enough, but I do. I have
Speaker 1: to track this mark. The Browns are owing three, Your
Speaker 1: locks are oh and three, the Giants your NFC Super
Speaker 1: Bowl team or own three, and the Chargers your a
Speaker 1: f C Super Bowl trow Yes, but you're going for this.
Speaker 1: I did not mistakenly start a nuclear war between Russia
Speaker 1: and Norway, so I have that at this point. What
Speaker 1: did you almost want to go just six someone, it's
Speaker 1: so much harder to go to not win anything would
Speaker 1: be very hard, amazing. Let's move on. He looks. He
Speaker 1: locks it up down the middle looking for Mark Sabies.
Speaker 1: Lewis makes the Cats into the end zone, touchdown. Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Blake Borders through four touchdowns, including a rio of strikes
Speaker 1: to Marcedes Lewis, to leave the Jacksonville Jaguars to an
Speaker 1: obscenely thorough seven win over the Baltimore Ravens and the
Speaker 1: kickoff of the International Series from Wembley Stadium in London.
Speaker 1: Hide to all our London listeners and England listeners, Greg
Speaker 1: makes sense of this blowout, makes sense of anything in
Speaker 1: this world. I can't other than at their best, the
Speaker 1: Jaguars defense is gonna stop a limited offense that certainly
Speaker 1: happened today. But I don't want to hear all this
Speaker 1: crying like I saw on Twitter at six fifty in
Speaker 1: the morning about oh well they're missing Marshall Yonda. Marshall
Speaker 1: Yonda didn't give up four touchdowns to Blake Bordles, Marshall
Speaker 1: Yonna didn't give up two yards passing in the first
Speaker 1: half to Blake Boarders. This game was over by the
Speaker 1: end of the first quarter. The Jaguars offense did whatever
Speaker 1: they wanted to do against a Ravens defense which we
Speaker 1: thought was among the very best in the league. And yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you're missing Brandon Williams. That's that's one key component. You
Speaker 1: do not expect the Jaguars to be able to throw
Speaker 1: the ball on you. Bortles was efficient, maybe not as
Speaker 1: good as his numbers suggest. He was very good, but
Speaker 1: it was really a total team effort. Great play calling,
Speaker 1: great protection, great running game, like everything was working. I
Speaker 1: guess for me, it's like you can watch coming into
Speaker 1: this two weeks of game tape and draw conclusions, and
Speaker 1: you should because you just keep doing that and compile
Speaker 1: them as as the season goes on. But I woke
Speaker 1: up and it was like twenty three to nothing, and
Speaker 1: I thought, I've definitely this is not real. I've woken
Speaker 1: up in a parallel universe. This is a complete mess. Yeah, Erica,
Speaker 1: hit me, go ahead, hit me, give me this. Head
Speaker 1: out to West to screw it. Headed out to Greg
Speaker 1: and Mark because they ripped me for saying this was
Speaker 1: too easy. That's that's how the game works. Downstairs, He
Speaker 1: quickly shifted iculous spinning party four to seven for shame.
Speaker 1: The best part is how you guys are um no,
Speaker 1: I mean, what makes sense of it? That well? That
Speaker 1: you are right because we utterly in every possible way,
Speaker 1: dismiss Jacksonville as an entity. On Thursday's previous show, we
Speaker 1: all did. You guys were saying it was too easy
Speaker 1: West and I are saying it was such an easy win,
Speaker 1: like it was from all angles. We had this game
Speaker 1: covered as a one sided effort. I mean, and I
Speaker 1: don't know how to make sense of it. The Ravens
Speaker 1: defense we were singing praises for and they get lit up.
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco ends up there on the bench and you
Speaker 1: have to be asking questions about Joe Flacco again, like
Speaker 1: is he a guy that's gonna be able to lead
Speaker 1: this Ravens team effectively? I don't know. I thought Flacco
Speaker 1: played well last week too. When I went back and
Speaker 1: watched that, I was like, Okay, no worries about Flacco
Speaker 1: moving a little better. I don't think it was all
Speaker 1: on Flacco by any means. It was Wallace and Pairman
Speaker 1: have been terrible for that team, dropping passes. Not on
Speaker 1: the same page as like, oh, but he was eight
Speaker 1: for eight teen with twenty eight yards and two interceptions.
Speaker 1: That is about as bad of a STA line. And
Speaker 1: in terms of making sense, well, number one, it's impossible
Speaker 1: to predict anything. I mean, seasons are inherently gonna be
Speaker 1: way more unpredictable than we think. And there's no certainty,
Speaker 1: especially early in the season. You gotta let it develop
Speaker 1: and just see. And now this is two games out
Speaker 1: of three where the Jaguars have waxed the other team.
Speaker 1: And you have to give a lot of credit to
Speaker 1: Calais Campbell and A. J. Booyer and some pickups that
Speaker 1: they've made. I mean, these guys have come in and
Speaker 1: made monster impacts. Booye and Ramsey's two interceptions of Flacco
Speaker 1: were outrageously good plays. Less about a bad throw by Flacco.
Speaker 1: London will try to give you a better game down
Speaker 1: the line, but Jaguars, least he got some points, you
Speaker 1: got some highlights. Let's move on. He throws pluck by
Speaker 1: t Y it's at five out of the forty. Puts
Speaker 1: back in thirty five thirty ted five touchdown. Bob Lamey
Speaker 1: w F and I Jacoby Brissette ran for a pair
Speaker 1: of touchdowns and had that big connection. O slides me
Speaker 1: off a piece of that. Jake Briskey to t Y
Speaker 1: Hilton to lead the Colts to over the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: um mark uh first of all Browns now and three,
Speaker 1: one and eighteen and the Hugh Jackson era. And my
Speaker 1: question to you will get to the Browns in a second,
Speaker 1: but to the Colts save their season with their trade
Speaker 1: for Jake Brisket. Yeah, honestly, he's given you over the
Speaker 1: course of three weeks, much more than you would have
Speaker 1: gotten from Philip Dorset, no way around it, especially if
Speaker 1: Scott Tolzine were at quarterback you were waiting to find out.
Speaker 1: I mean, with Tolzine, that's for sure too much more
Speaker 1: than Tolzine, That's what I'm saying. Like, So t Y Hilton,
Speaker 1: who really you know, one of the big victims of
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck being sidelined. Absolutely new performance today and him
Speaker 1: and Brissette. Man, they Brissette can run. He gashed Cleveland
Speaker 1: on the ground for a couple of scores when they
Speaker 1: thought they you know, clamped down in the secondary. He
Speaker 1: just moves in space and Hilton absolutely torch Cleveland secondary.
Speaker 1: Big concern for Cleveland's defense, but honestly, the Cults, they
Speaker 1: I don't know what their long term status will be
Speaker 1: in this season. I don't think overall there a special
Speaker 1: team by any stretch. But Brissette did this for New
Speaker 1: England last year. He won a game that they needed
Speaker 1: before Tom Brady came back, and you look at what
Speaker 1: he did today. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see
Speaker 1: him keep them competitive until Luck returns. And and there
Speaker 1: was movement on that front for the first time in
Speaker 1: a long time this morning with a couple national reports,
Speaker 1: including from Ian Rappaport one specifically targeted week six as
Speaker 1: a possible return. I think that was from ESPN, and
Speaker 1: Ian was a little more vague that maybe he's going
Speaker 1: to be returning to practice fairly soon in start ramping up.
Speaker 1: So Brissette has looked totally different this season. I think
Speaker 1: then that Texans game, or even what we saw in
Speaker 1: the preseason of the Patriots, he's been pretty impressive in
Speaker 1: two weeks. If they if they can get to whatever
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck comes back in decent shape, which is to me, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe game below something around there, giving them
Speaker 1: a chance with their franchise quarterback. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. Their their front office will deserve
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for, you know, realizing that that
Speaker 1: Tolzine was gonna they were gonna need another option. And
Speaker 1: then Jake Briscott, you know, he almost gives you start
Speaker 1: to think, is this guy deserves a look somewhere else
Speaker 1: where he might be able to compete for a starting job. Well,
Speaker 1: the just a lot more football to play before then,
Speaker 1: but a very nice start there, uh for Jake. Uh,
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Take some turns. Fick to the belly
Speaker 1: of the back. Here's Jordan Howard left in the tent.
Speaker 1: Howard five turns up failed, he is in? Is he
Speaker 1: in for the touchdown? Yes? Touchdown? Touchdown? Bears referees never
Speaker 1: threw their hands up. Jordan Howard had a clear sale
Speaker 1: into the end zone with though game winner nineteen yards.
Speaker 1: There it is Jeff Johnny Act w BBM Jordan Howard's
Speaker 1: nineteen yard running overtime. That was the difference for the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, who overcame an all time gaff by cornerback
Speaker 1: Marcus Cooper before halftime to defeat eat the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: seventeen at Soldier Field. The Steelers offense was pedestrian once again.
Speaker 1: Greg and the Bear showed once again. While they shouldn't
Speaker 1: be considered a push over by anybody, No, they could
Speaker 1: be two in one with home winds over the Steelers
Speaker 1: and the Falcons. Gordon Howard had held onto it and
Speaker 1: they did it with old you know fox ball. Eight runs,
Speaker 1: eight runs of thirteen yards or more that thirteen. Coincidentally,
Speaker 1: it was the longest run that the Steelers had. So
Speaker 1: they ran the ball down the Steelers throat and they
Speaker 1: stopped the run. And that's fox ball. Dan on the
Speaker 1: flip side, you make it sound a lot better than that.
Speaker 1: I don't have any fox ball, but it's foxball's dream.
Speaker 1: Who's more fun to watch, you know, in that division
Speaker 1: than Tarik Cohen right now and Jordan Howard who who
Speaker 1: seemed like he was getting phased out a little bit
Speaker 1: by Cohen. No, they use them both thirty eight rushing attempts. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: you're hiding Mike Glennon is the best you can in yards.
Speaker 1: They won this game twice, by the way, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I didn't see any replay. Know, they ruled Tariko and
Speaker 1: at a bounds on the field and then it gets
Speaker 1: into that that tricky aerads like, well you have to have,
Speaker 1: you know, irrefutable evidence. Well, to me, the airfeudal evidence
Speaker 1: was I didn't see any part of his foot touching
Speaker 1: that white line, which wiped out a really special touchdown
Speaker 1: h for Cone. So it was actually happy to see
Speaker 1: the Bears then close out the game a few minutes later. Uh,
Speaker 1: they they won this game. And and it talked about
Speaker 1: this um on the end around this week about how
Speaker 1: the Steelers and you look at their schedule, what they
Speaker 1: have coming up, they still haven't hit their stride on offense,
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell fifteen for sixty one total. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Antonio yep, Antonio Brown is always going to get his production.
Speaker 1: But another quiet game from Martavis Bryant. Um. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know what, their schedule is pretty tough coming ahead. You
Speaker 1: might have to wait till the second half of the
Speaker 1: season before it loosens up and you could start seeing
Speaker 1: them putting up the numbers we were expecting. But then
Speaker 1: by then is that or four guys gonna even be
Speaker 1: on the field together, because you know, they've they've struggled.
Speaker 1: The Steelers have not gotten a going so they're they're
Speaker 1: fortunate to be too and on Well, they play the
Speaker 1: Ravens next week, which becomes a huge game, and it's
Speaker 1: does anyone want to win the an f C North.
Speaker 1: They're owing four today as a division and I am
Speaker 1: concerned about Big Ben, I am concerned about Levy on Bell,
Speaker 1: but I also feel like it's a team that a
Speaker 1: month from now, even a week from now week, they
Speaker 1: could explode at any moment. What what NFL team there
Speaker 1: aren't Many are just looking like the same team week
Speaker 1: after week, like the Falcons. So far, you know, you
Speaker 1: pretty much know what you're getting, even though their games
Speaker 1: are close, like teams are figuring themselves out. But I
Speaker 1: do think it's worth at least mentioning. And I have
Speaker 1: been as big a Big Ben fan as anyone that
Speaker 1: you were banging me, Uh, well that's phrasing there. Well
Speaker 1: you're getting on You're getting on me for Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: taking identity Greg, you're for soon for not admitting that
Speaker 1: there's a little Philip Rivers decline going on right now
Speaker 1: or when he's struggling, not in media. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's happening. Eli Manning certainly has been in a little
Speaker 1: bit of decline. Ben Roethlisberger has not played as well
Speaker 1: now over the last season and three games as I
Speaker 1: believe the level of his play had been before that.
Speaker 1: And he's he's up there in years he does. He
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't make us many special out of the pocket
Speaker 1: crazy plays as before and and I don't think he's
Speaker 1: played at his best this season. I still think it
Speaker 1: could flip around Sunday night. Mac Brown is now the backs.
Speaker 1: They take it to him. Cousin's going deep down the
Speaker 1: right side, wine and it's Holden and into the end zone,
Speaker 1: goes for a touchdown. Josh Dobson, I remember you, how
Speaker 1: dare you alright? Like? How dare you tampos? I am
Speaker 1: hosting here? I like that a lot. Erry much appreciated
Speaker 1: by and back at you sounds good. Though Carrie's voice
Speaker 1: sounded better than ever this year. I just thought you'd
Speaker 1: feel left out, like it doesn't happen off you know,
Speaker 1: it's the only problem. It doesn't affect me because I
Speaker 1: love Carrie Underwood. That's the whole thing. You get Mark.
Speaker 1: You might not ever see him again if you hit
Speaker 1: Mark with it. It's a poisonous song. She she's about
Speaker 1: as rude as uh you know a group of Rosenthal's
Speaker 1: sitting down at the dinner table cutting each other off.
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson, there you are, buddy, A fifty two yards,
Speaker 1: fifty two yard touchdown reception. Kirk Cousins played out of
Speaker 1: his mind statistically twenty five thirty three sixty five, three
Speaker 1: touchdowns and a pass rating of one fifty point seven.
Speaker 1: My goodness, the Raiders, no match, a win for the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins, who improved the two and one, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, all that talk about the doomsday of
Speaker 1: Washington and how terrible they looked throughout the summer, and
Speaker 1: then week one all gone, Greg, the Raiders, what are
Speaker 1: we doing here? But we're going They got a couple,
Speaker 1: they got some points in garbage time or not some points.
Speaker 1: They moved the ball a little bit in garbage time,
Speaker 1: but going into their last possession that no one cares about,
Speaker 1: they had total yards, five first downs. This is the
Speaker 1: this is the Raiders. What happened if well, let's just
Speaker 1: get this out of the way and give me the
Speaker 1: sad horn right off the bat, we got the collar.
Speaker 1: That's an over four. As a group, we know nothing,
Speaker 1: And of all the shocking good news is nobody else
Speaker 1: knows anything either. As of all the shocking results on
Speaker 1: a shocking Sunday, I contend that the Raiders getting their
Speaker 1: fifth first down of the game with five minutes to
Speaker 1: go in Washington was the single most shocking. Not just
Speaker 1: that the Redskins went up and down the field. Okay,
Speaker 1: we know, we know that they're capable of that, but
Speaker 1: that this Redskins defense, which was short a couple of
Speaker 1: players and didn't have a lot going into the game
Speaker 1: to make you feel like they're special, absolutely dis droid
Speaker 1: what I believed was the most dynamic offense in the Lake.
Speaker 1: It was wild. Yeah, I mean, we have to find
Speaker 1: out very soon if this was an aberration on a
Speaker 1: day full of potential aberrations, or if the fact that
Speaker 1: Derek Carr looked completely off all night long a Marii
Speaker 1: Cooper one catch for six yards Marshawn Lynch totally shut
Speaker 1: down the formula that over the last two weeks looks
Speaker 1: super solid, totally crumbled against the team that we had dismissed.
Speaker 1: If I had a guess it's a blip on the radar,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make too much of us. Sometimes bad
Speaker 1: nights and the Raiders had a bad night. But you're right,
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. There there's a play near the end where
Speaker 1: he was deliriously trying to call time out and didn't
Speaker 1: get granted. Then then when they showed the replay, he's
Speaker 1: rolling out right before throwing it out of bounds. You
Speaker 1: could see the look in his eyes like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is just one of those days he can could not
Speaker 1: wait to get back in the locker room. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure you see Marshawn at the end of the game
Speaker 1: sitting on the sideline. No dancing today for Beast Mode.
Speaker 1: It was just a long night for the other I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's an aberration though, when you see
Speaker 1: how this defense, this Raiders defense was utterly controlled. Chris
Speaker 1: Thompson hundred and fifty yards through the air, dynamic player
Speaker 1: number one. But I mean Washington had their way down
Speaker 1: the stretch. They ran the ball at will, They were
Speaker 1: throwing screen passes that were blowing up against the secondary.
Speaker 1: It was embarrassing and embarrassing loss. Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders over the last few years have
Speaker 1: consistently made mental errors and been confused in terms of
Speaker 1: what they're doing on defense, where these big plays, like
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be giving up a hundred plus yards on
Speaker 1: screen passes for the night, But that's what happened. Lots
Speaker 1: of yards after the catch, that's what happened. The thing
Speaker 1: if you're a Redskins fan to feel like that we
Speaker 1: can do this every week. This running game is starting
Speaker 1: to look for real. And Bill Callahan, who is on
Speaker 1: that coaching staff wherever he goes, has a big time
Speaker 1: effect and they are tough to deal with. So if
Speaker 1: you've got a power running game with Kirk Cousins kind
Speaker 1: of you know, just managing the game. That's two straight
Speaker 1: weeks that Rams win looks even better. I think now
Speaker 1: two and one they have to be very very happy
Speaker 1: after a poor week one. I mean to go oh
Speaker 1: when when you're the Raiders with the weapons they have
Speaker 1: in the way we felt about them even five hours ago,
Speaker 1: to go oh for eleven on third down. I just this.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this inabiration the sense that there
Speaker 1: are very few teams you can count on from week
Speaker 1: to week. We found that out today and maybe the
Speaker 1: Raiders are not this automatic thirteen and three contraps. See,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go too crazy about it. I mean
Speaker 1: the defense. Maybe the offense is gonna be fine. I
Speaker 1: think there's too many weapons. I just I don't like
Speaker 1: their offensive line. Their offensive line which you can control,
Speaker 1: which you've seen. They were on fire the first two weeks.
Speaker 1: They got controlled tonight. That was me among many shocking things,
Speaker 1: seeing car hit six times, tack four times. It was
Speaker 1: just the level of the beat down it could it
Speaker 1: could have been forty four to seven, like the London game.
Speaker 1: This was just as big a beat down really as
Speaker 1: that game. And then they go to the Raiders go
Speaker 1: to Denver next week, so there'll be another challenge, come
Speaker 1: home to face the Ravens, and the Ravens to tie
Speaker 1: it up. Tie put a nice little bow on at
Speaker 1: the team that we were also high on on going
Speaker 1: into this weekend. They got waxed by the Jaguars. So
Speaker 1: this was the week where if anybody thinks they're football geniuses, uh,
Speaker 1: watch the NFL today. Everything is still coming together. We're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who's who and what's what. It's
Speaker 1: hard to say. A couple of program notes. First off,
Speaker 1: this was our six episode. How about that? Unlike unlike Mark,
Speaker 1: you know, going to third person to talk about his
Speaker 1: Saints pick. We're not there, we go. We're not usually,
Speaker 1: you know, a big self congratulatory crew, so not a
Speaker 1: big celebration. Six episodes as a foursome. Uh. Park is
Speaker 1: like the least of congratulatory guy. So I felt like
Speaker 1: that's a nice achievement. And coincidentally, Scheck also had his
Speaker 1: six d episode last week. So the two mainstays of
Speaker 1: the podcast. That's pretty cool. Shepherding logs. You mean shepherding
Speaker 1: law episode what? I don't know. I'm not tracking on that.
Speaker 1: We'll have to check Sully's behind the glass. Maybe he
Speaker 1: has the answers um. Also, Greg, you had something you
Speaker 1: wanted to say? All? I wanted to give a nice
Speaker 1: shout out to one of our listeners and a follower
Speaker 1: on Twitter UK, Clark Griswold, who went to the London
Speaker 1: game and with his beautiful family and brought a post
Speaker 1: a big poster up of Chris Wesselen that said the
Speaker 1: Mailman is back and posted some great pictures. He should
Speaker 1: check it out on his Twitter account. Chris and I
Speaker 1: both retweeted it's on Instagram to that you know they're
Speaker 1: with Jackson Deville. He's running a forty yard dash. You
Speaker 1: know they're all excited going to the game. It was
Speaker 1: a Jaguars masket. Yeah, sorry, everyone should know that too
Speaker 1: familiar there, Maybe for some people. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: one of the coolest. Yeah, our fans do a lot
Speaker 1: of cool things, but to me, that really stuck out
Speaker 1: as one of the coolest things anyone's ever done. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: we hope to have a West back on Tuesday with us.
Speaker 1: Uh And that's it. And finally, Eric could give us
Speaker 1: a TV show that you like. I love Big Little
Speaker 1: Lies on HBO, excellent program. Stranger Things is amazing. Westworld
Speaker 1: is what I like. West World, I got got a
Speaker 1: got a little little, a little tiresome, a little bit
Speaker 1: of a little worrisome. She needed like three hours to
Speaker 1: come up with this answer. She's out the siously searching
Speaker 1: cool TV shows. Yeah, that's exactly what I did, the
Speaker 1: New England people. Exactly. Yeah. I tweeted out a poll
Speaker 1: actually to vote like what would make me look the coolest?
Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. That is the answer.
Speaker 1: Those are the answers you were waiting for. We will
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Speaker 1: Maybe getting drunk would help, We'll see. All right, this
Speaker 1: is uh Dan Hanson's signing GOT four, Quiet Storm, the
Speaker 1: Old Boston, A loose cannon behind the glass Week three,
Speaker 1: and what a weird week it was in the books.
Speaker 1: We move on