WEBVTT - Chad OchoCinco and Evan Silva breakdown the NFL Draft 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.880 From the King of sports Books, who becomes the King 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:17.920 sports podcast Unleashed presented by bet MGM. You're your host, 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:29.280 Speedy Mormon and Olivia Arlen Decker. Welcome back to Unleashed 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.199 from the King of Sports Books bet MGM. Today is 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.519 our NFL Draft Special and we've got a couple of 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:42.320 amazing guests. First up, NFL superstar Chad Ocho Sinko Johnson 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:46.599 joins the show, and then NFL Draft expert Evan Silva 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.040 will be on to give us his predictions for the draft. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.040 But before all of that, Olivia is going to give 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.200 us the lowdown on this year's NFL Draft. Olivia, what 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.720 do we got, hey, Speedy? I love this week. I 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.040 love the draft because I cover college football, so I 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.880 get to watch these guys developed by interview them over 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.679 the years, in some cases meet their families. So it's 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.319 a really special week for me and watching these guys. 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.880 But remember last year was all virtual was out of 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.200 Roger Goodell's basement. It was so weird. This year, he's 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:20.039 fully vaccinated. He has confirmed he will be hugging draftees 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.120 on stage. The bro hugs can resume. That's always an 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.760 awesome moment. To watch, Oh don't you love It? And 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.880 then only thirteen draftees are scheduled to be in attendance 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.000 in Cleveland. Others will be taking part virtually like we've 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.720 seen in the past, but getting back to some normalcy. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.200 And this year, a lot of people and pundits think 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:42.560 that this is a big draft for quarterbacks. Do you agree? Oh? Absolutely, 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.120 And it's not uncommon for the first four picks to 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.000 I'll be quarterbacks last year, three at the top six 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.240 or quarterbacks. But the names you have to know this 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:54.520 year Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Zack Wilson, Trey Lance, and 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:58.640 Mac Jones. Trevor Lawrence will definitely go number one overall 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.280 to the Jaguars. Remember he started three years at Clemson. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.960 All three seasons took him to the College Football playoffs 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.000 as a starter, he only lost two games, and he's 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.840 had an incredible season. He's mature, he's savvy, and what 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.520 I like is he recently got married and their wedding 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.880 registry was public and a lot of Jaguars fans bought 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.440 a ton of gifts on their register. Just the world 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.160 we live in. So he already has a good relationship 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.280 building in Jacksonville, and then the Jets have the number 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.840 two draft pick. They're looking for a quarterback. They recently 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.000 traded away Sam Donald to Carolina, and a lot of 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.200 people think that they like b y U quarterback Zack Wilson. 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.799 He will be one of those thirteen draftees in attendance. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:44.600 He had a great regular season thirty three touchdowns, three interceptions, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.600 down from nine the year before. And he really he's 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.520 appointment television. He's so fun to watch improv. He's electric. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.359 And then the forty Niners traded up for the third pick, 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.480 So flip a coin. That's Justin Fields or mac Jones. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.480 Mac Jones was once the third quarterback on the depth 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.920 chart at Alabama, but he was behind some guys like 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.000 to a tongue of Valoa Jalen Hurts. He was incredible, 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.480 but recently his draft stock has completely risen. He had 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:13.120 an amazing Senior Bowl campaign. He's not as athletic as 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.840 these other quarterbacks, but he has a lot of momentum 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.120 and he will be one of the players in attendance 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.960 as well as far as Justin Fields from Ohio State, 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:25.280 he is Mr Cool. He is unfazed. Scouts love that 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.200 about him. He had a really up and down season. 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.080 The Big Ten had their late start, Ohio State had 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.880 a lot of games canceled due to COVID. His play suffered, 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.880 especially in the Big Ten championship game. He played great 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.560 against Clemson in the semifinal and then they lost in 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.920 the National Championship to Bama. But you know, he recently 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.920 went on a plant based diet, and I'm very curious 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.480 to talk to Chatto Chosinko about diet later because my 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.720 man's no work close. He's eeing a lot of McDonald's 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.880 and whatnot. Yeah, I don't know that his diet is 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.839 like yours, Olivia. We know that you are a very 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.760 healthy eater. Chat is almost the tithesis of that. Oh gosh, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.400 it makes my skin curl. And then the last quarterbacks 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.400 beauties Trey Lance from North Dakota State. To put it 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.760 in perspective, draft expert Mel Kuiper Jr. Says he's the 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:15.360 biggest wild card evaluation in his entire career. That's decades 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.360 worth of draft analysis and he started as a red 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.520 shirt freshman. The stat everyone loves about Trey Lance as 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.479 he had zero interceptions in his first season as a 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.719 starter and I covered a couple of his games that 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.760 was on like three passing attempts. It was crazy. Twenty 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.839 eight touchdowns, zero interceptions in his first year as a starter. 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.200 The problem with Trey Lance is this past year with COVID, 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.120 they had a one game season which was more or 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.360 less scheduled to be an exhibition showcase game for him, 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.360 and he didn't really play great. So big question mark 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.719 is Trey Lance. And really whatever the Falcons do with 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.440 the fourth overall pick is going to affect where all 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.640 these guys fall. And here we're recording Sunday night. By 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.280 Thursday we should have answers and our draft starts Thursday night. 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.919 I can't wait. But quarterback is the name of the game. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.039 Quarterback is the name of the game. Diet is also 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:05.880 a big one, and I can't wait for you to 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.000 get to ask chat about it. So without further Ado, 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:19.920 let's bring them on. Well, there are three things certain 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:24.040 in life, death taxes, and number eighty five is open. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.200 Welcome to unleashed Dono Sinko. How are you and where 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.280 are you right now? I'm in Jacksonville, tended the m 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.280 m A fight last night for my guy or at 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.640 masses off obviously we didn't win. But it's okay because 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.719 it's it's okay. In life, you never get directions, so 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.040 they're gonna be wins, they're gonna be losses. And we 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.200 we took that one. We took that loss with grace, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.239 and he called he took it with grace, with grace, 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.719 took it with grace. I I don't know if you 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.279 took it with grace. We've seen you upset. I know 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.000 you put some money on it too. You slammed the table, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.760 you lost fifty men's is everything all right? Listen, if 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.479 people know me and they follow me and followed my 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.039 my structure, in my way of living throughout the years, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.240 and how cheap I am, you would know that would 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.560 just basically content purposes. And I would really never bet 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.000 fifty grand on anything, let alone spend it and put 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.080 it on someone else where. It's not where the end 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.920 result is not in my control. Absolutely not. I wear 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.560 a target. I get my jury from Claire's. Come on, 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.360 that's some good insight. I like that. And listen, content purposes, 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.080 it's like watching wrastling, Is it really really? Did you 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.880 actually or did you just bet nothing? But it's it's 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.479 a great content. No, I don't. I don't. I don't gamble. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.240 Don't gamble. I mean people that know me know I 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.039 don't gamble. People that know me. No, I don't spend 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.839 any money. Well, hang on, now you're saying you're frugal, 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.200 but I saw you tweet recently that you would pay 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.440 someone to pick you up at your hotel and pays 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.719 to take you to Starbucks. That's different. That is giving. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:56.400 That is giving. Why not, right? No? Because Uber baby, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.360 what happened over If they weren't, what happened, I want 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.160 to start up this day. They didn't. They weren't delivering 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.640 at the hotel I was staying at. And I need 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.920 my fix every morning for the past thirty forty I'm 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.600 fifty now, yeah, forty years. I need my coffee every morning. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.440 And I was I was going, you can Uber to Starbucks. No, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.600 I didn't want to do that. I think I think 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.120 it would have been nice engaging with the fans on Twitter, 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.200 having someone picked me up and rewarding them for coming 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.880 going out their way on a Saturday morning to picking 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.280 up to get my coffee. You know, you wouldn't have 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.240 to pay someone to do that. There's so many people 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.280 who do that for free to meet you know, I 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.800 think more so I like, I like the giving part. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.720 Better didn't pan out that way and someone actually come 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:42.040 get your Yeah, yeah, yeah, I posted three part story. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.000 It's there on Twitter, still there. I love it. You're 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.160 all about the content, you're a social media savant. But 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.200 really with with the diet stuff i've it blows my 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.240 mind seeing what you're eating. I know it's a lot 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:57.880 of yellow cake, chocolate icing McDonald's. Wait a minute, I see. 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:02.280 Oh my god, listen, so good, so good. Are you 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:08.320 health health nut or are you like yeah, I am god, No, 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.480 you need just you need to stick to my meal 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:17.000 plan six months, six months, okay, eating in moderation, junk food, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:23.840 cosmic brownies, honey buns, I'm in noodles, cigars, to day 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:28.600 workouts I do two days, Yes, yes, I do, I do. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.320 I saw you speaking to Cam Newton about this and 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.240 he was not having it. He's all plant based. I 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.559 got him. I got him the plan based. It ain't working. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.360 Ain't working. No, it's not. It's not working. So he's 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.800 on my plan. Now. I have a few other NFL 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:48.160 athletes under my ultra Versus science dietary plan and they're 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.520 going to be successful because of it. Jed, I haven't 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.199 had a cosmic Brownie since maybe two thousand and five. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.000 Are they still as good? Do they still hit the same? 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.360 They still hit the same? Why haven't you? Why haven't you? 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.319 I just feel like I graduated out of it. My 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:06.040 tastality evolved. And listen, you know, you know what. You're alive, 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.240 but you're not living. That's what you're doing. You're alive, 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.679 but you're really not living. You know it's graduate. Graduating 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:17.400 is awesome, but never never ever lead the foundation that 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.480 built you. And that's what Brownies did. That's a fact, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.400 that's true. Same with McDonald's breakfast. But you're a big 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.679 fan of Yes, you don't eat. You don't even gown 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.120 with breakfast either. It's been a long time. I gotta 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:34.520 be my no way, dude. You guys are torturing your bodies. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.520 You're torturing your bodies on the proper nutrients that it needs. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.599 And it's not the stuff that scientists are told you 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.200 to eat. I'm telling you your body, Yes, the body 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.640 on the inside. It's screaming right now, both of you. 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.040 It's screaming. You don't even know it. Okay, speaking of screaming, 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.839 I know you're an avid gamer war Zone Call of Duty. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.360 There was a big update in the game this week, 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.000 so it's a big week in my house. But how 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.840 been loves war Zone? Have you played the new update yet? 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.000 And who do you play with? Is it former athletes? 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.520 This is the problem. I've been traveling since up they 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.920 came out on the twenty second when not mistaken, I've 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.560 been in Jacksonville since the twenty one, so I missed 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.400 the update. I don't have my Xbox, I don't have 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.000 my PS five, and I haven't been able to do it. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.240 I told the wife before she left to come see 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.840 me here in Jackskille turn my PS five one into 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.880 the updates, so once I do get there, I could 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.720 just be don't want to play. So I haven't experienced 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.840 a new update yet. That's brilliant though, because those updates 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.360 are huge, so so shout out to wife. You's returning 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.960 the system on. But as Olivia asked, who do you 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.839 play with other athletes? You play with just fans. I 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.040 played with some of the athletes, I obviously do play 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:48.720 with fans, and I play with some of the pro 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.160 gamers Aiden Nick Marks, Cuskers I played with some of 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.400 those guys. I carry him because I mean, without me, 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.520 they wouldn't be who they are. That's your Twitter bio. 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.880 You've carried swaging and all the rest of these big 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.920 exactly swag exactly. And the funny thing about it, I 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.640 tell her I feel her pain because I feel like, 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.040 once this update came out, I lost my husband for 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.000 the week. It's all he can do now is play 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.720 this game. It's driving me crazy. Well listen, she's had 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.920 me for a week. She's had me for a week. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.920 And so once I get back after doing this work, 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.520 that is my downtime in my sense of peace and 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:28.480 outlet from from life man at all, especially after you know, 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:34.840 just just I'm tearing up a little bit because gaming 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:40.000 is such an important aspect of my life. Well it's 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.560 it's causing a real rift in my marriage. So I'm 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.439 glad you love it so much because this damn game. Man, 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.000 that's the marriage, and that's what marriage is about. Marriage 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.719 is about balance. Because before you met him, he was gaming, right, 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:57.040 I guess see that's the joy of it. No, there 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:01.800 wasn't before me. There was nothing before me. Know, Okay, 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.240 I got you, I got you. I have this wonderful 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:10.319 saying by a friend of mine. Gaming is forever sexist, temporary. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:15.240 Oh man, think about that. Think about that. That is 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.359 that the legendary Frost said that. That is a legendary 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:23.599 comment until this day it stands. Think about it. I 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:27.640 don't know if that's accurate or factual. A think about 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.880 what was your your fellow host, what's his name? Speedy? Speedy? 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:36.920 Do you game at all? Sometimes? Yeah? Sometimes casually. Can 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.560 you remember how many relationships you've been in life to 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:47.520 this point? Yes? How many? Zero? Zero? Zero? Yeah, okay, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.080 but gaming has always been around there, right, It's not 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.400 done anywhere, It's always been there, accessible whenever I needed it. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.480 Thank you, thank you. That's the point I'm trying to make. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:05.640 That's why gaming comes first, Oscar. Yes, no, yeah, this 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.880 is an epic moment. Well, your wife, Your wife is 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.080 a patient and beautiful woman, so I give her a 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.240 lot of props. But it is it is us against 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.640 war zones. So the battle continues. Now, let's let's get 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.760 back to football. It's draft week. Everyone is so excited. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:25.160 I've been watching. I'm excited, you are excited, very very 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:30.000 I'm curious, and I got kind of personally piste off 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.960 at the scouts some of the things that they put 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.880 out there on some of the players specimpically the DeVante 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:41.400 Smith worried about size, worried about heightened and these measurables, 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.560 the measurables that count are the ones you can't even 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:49.080 measure hard. You know, there's a certain its fact that 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:54.040 individuals have that makes them special or elite talents. Davante 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.439 Smith being one of those individuals, and they're talking about 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.679 heightened size and being too small when none of that, 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.800 none of that plays a factor in when it comes 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.640 to the fact, can you help my team? Can you 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.800 better my team? Can you play a specific position and 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.280 help my team? He just won the high School Trophy 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:16.480 for a reason against the top competition in the what's 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.720 the sec SEC right, because the best company and you're 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.840 talking about he's only one sixty. Like what are these 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.880 scouts doing? Like what are you doing? Is people like 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.200 that or put information out like that has causedes owners 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.960 and gems to miss out on special talents because the 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.760 stuff that has nothing to do with the game of 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.000 football and and chaid that's the problem that we've started 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.640 to see as well in basketball with these kind of 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.720 statistics and over owners and stuff like that. Is this 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.840 you think a problem that is just across sports where 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.560 we need to let what the athletes do on the 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:53.120 court and on the field dictate things more. Thank you 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.840 film film, the I test. Scouts have this thing called 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.160 the I Test. The test is great. No look to 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:04.160 part side, always big, always strong, always fast. That means nothing. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.200 Oh he runs the fort yard, dass in the four too? 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.000 Four three means nothing. When is the last time you've 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.840 seen the football game played in a straight line? When 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:16.360 it's all about angles, being able to understand leverage and 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.000 technique and and and get a guy leading a certain way, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.840 and like it's it's so much that goes into it, 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.600 and it seems like the focus is being able to 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.280 run in a straight line. Turn on the film. How 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.120 do they perform against top competition and under pressure and 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:36.080 imprescious situations? That's it? Ain't it? Ain't rocket science? Yeah? 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.640 I agree? Now you were a long time Bengal. They 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.880 have the fifth pick. A lot of people think Penny Sewell, 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.920 the top offensive tackle of Oregon, would be the smartest move. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.840 Where do you think they need to invest for me? 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:52.600 I think Penny school is a great fit a great fit. 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.560 Me knowing Joe Burrow, I think he wants you, mar Chaise, 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:02.720 I think and yeah, and and having one a great 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.960 great offensive weapon, a loot to go along with Tyler 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.720 Boyd and t Higgins. And I think they can get 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:13.120 another adequate, decent left tackle or right tackle, whatever it 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.240 is that they might think they need, and maybe later 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.240 in the draft or later in the second or third round, 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.920 there will be some other decent players that they can 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.720 get that can that they can make into a you know, 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.440 a great left or right tackle. You know, I recently 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.720 watched your Larry King interview from years ago, and I 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.280 think every athlete should watch it. The way that you 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.400 talk about the mentality of the game. And I've heard 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.720 your favorite Bill Belichick story a couple of times of 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.320 him ripping Tom Brady And what's your favorite Tom? Oh? 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.280 Do I have that wrong? No? That was right, Like 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.600 it was crazy great. That talk about setting the tone 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.760 and understanding, getting getting a better understanding what the Patriot 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.840 Way is. And now everybody is held accountable. How you 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.880 ripping Tom Brady of all people the first day about 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.440 a game where he messed up last year previously when 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.159 they lost to the jets of the playoffs, and he 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.600 puts up the film of the mistakes he made and 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.880 he rips them heading into the previous season. It's like, Yo, 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.160 that that to me, that that was that just set 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.359 the standard and it gave me a better understanding on 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.639 why they went consistently year and a year out because 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.680 it starts at the top. If you can chastise your 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.200 star player, you're a goal player in front of the 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.120 entire team. It sets the tone for everybody else. Well, 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.640 that's such a good Belichick story. But what's your best 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.200 Tom Brady story that explains who he is a little bit? 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.360 You know what, I don't really have any great Time 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.800 Brady stories except just being with him that year and 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.320 watching him work and prepare, you know, in meetings and 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.199 go over game plans and go over situations down in 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.240 distance with at the time Bill O'Brien was an almost 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.679 a coordinator, and just sitting in those meetings with him 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.720 and watching how they go over the same thing over 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.600 and over and over and over and being very meticulous 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.199 on down and distance and what we would do, what 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.680 would happen if the defense did this? Like there was 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.000 always an answer for everything. It was always answer for everything. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.399 So no matter what defense is through it, Tim, he 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.480 was always ready and I think that's what made not 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.920 just Tom special, but also Peyton Manning. I'm just throwing 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.800 him out there because those are two of you know, 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:23.480 the two, and it just done great things in this NFL. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:25.960 It was time about the fight. I thought. I saw 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.280 you guys embraced one another. I was there. Yeah, I 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:29.840 was talking with Tom for a while. He was there 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.119 with Mike Evans and the backup quarterback. I'm not sure 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.239 what the backup quarterback is, but he was sitting right 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.800 next to him. What you guys catch up about, you know, 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.520 I'm just just catching up. Tell him hello, we exchange 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.720 are my my famous? I love you as as I 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.159 do with everyone I see. That was it. That's how 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.680 I was doing. He's doing good. Talked about the season 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.600 a little bit coming up, and yeah, that was pretty 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.760 much it. I saw a B maybe was there sitting 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.680 on the opposite side. Maybe he was there with Dake, 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.399 Maybe he was there with Jake Paul, which was was 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.760 a little funny combination. That's what I was about to 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:01.680 add to you about. So I saw you. I saw 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.720 you also embrace a B who was there with Jake Paul. 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.480 Jake Paul just fought and knocked out be Ascer. Yeah, 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.080 to a lot of people's dismay into some other joy. 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.359 I guess I'm curious as to what you feel about 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.760 Jake Paul. He's a polarizing figure, to say the least. 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.479 I like it. I like it. He's a polarizing figure 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.240 and he hasn't figured out. He has to figure out 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.399 you have a small window of opportunity to maximize the 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:32.560 potential and a social media area, social media era. And 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.040 he's got it down to a t. He got it 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.040 down to a science, you know when people are buying 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:37.800 into it. And this is one of the things I 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.320 always see on on the podcast I'm on with Brandon 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.240 Marshall and I am Athlete. It's okay to be the villain. 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.320 It's okay to be the villain because the villain is 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.600 going to pay off, and it's paying off dividends. For 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.679 like last night, they're channing the entire the entire crowd. 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:57.320 Its channing if Jake Paul, if the entire crowd, he 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.119 stands up and puts up the middle finger to the 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.240 whole crowd. Everybody starts boing like like he really got 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.399 this thing down to a science, like he gets it, 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.439 he gets it, and I love I loved it. I 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.480 loved it. No, that's awesome. He knows how to work it. 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.879 You know how to work it is being a villain. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.040 Was that kind of a part of your game? I 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.800 mean you were known to be an amazing smack talker. Yeah. Yeah, 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:24.199 See it's kind of different for me, is my I 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.119 never did anything malicious. My way of going at my 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:32.240 opponents was more in a competitive way. It was trash talking, 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:37.160 but more in a entertainment typestyle, like not in your face, 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.520 and I'm gonna do this. No, I'm gonna score, I'm 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.240 gonna celebrate, and it's a challenge to you to be 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.680 able to stop me, you know, And that that was 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:47.520 pretty much it. So my way of doing it was 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.240 more about entertaining and making sure you've got your money's 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.119 worth when you came to watch me play. I love that. 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.320 Who in the game right now? Do you feel like 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.479 has that same sense about him? Who do you love 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:01.800 watching play? Especially right receivers? I think no, there's nobody 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.480 with that personality. But there are some any medals that 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.320 have the game that you know, the exact same game 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:11.639 and style and and flair. They just don't let the 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:17.560 mouth come along with it. Davante Adams, Keenan Allen, Julio Jones, 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:22.800 Justin Jefferson, amazing rookie year, you know, Stefan Diggs like 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.520 it's it's it's a bunch of them. They have a 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.639 certain flare about their game if they had the personality 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:32.399 to go with it occurreds All. The personality happens to 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:34.840 be on the defensive side of the ball. Now, it's funny. 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:39.560 Jalen Ramsey absolutely like he he got to Richard Sherman. 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.000 You know, they have it. It just seems like the 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.640 personalities have flipped to the opposite side of the balls. 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.680 Are their players in other sports or other major professional 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.119 leagues that you see this personality and just to broaden 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.720 it from football a bit, because someone who comes to 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:59.440 mind for me is young Anthony Edwards from the Timberwoops. Yes, yes, 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:02.600