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Speaker 1: sports podcast Unleashed presented by bet MGM. You're your host,
Speaker 1: Speedy Mormon and Olivia Arlen Decker. Welcome back to Unleashed
Speaker 1: from the King of Sports Books bet MGM. Today is
Speaker 1: our NFL Draft Special and we've got a couple of
Speaker 1: amazing guests. First up, NFL superstar Chad Ocho Sinko Johnson
Speaker 1: joins the show, and then NFL Draft expert Evan Silva
Speaker 1: will be on to give us his predictions for the draft.
Speaker 1: But before all of that, Olivia is going to give
Speaker 1: us the lowdown on this year's NFL Draft. Olivia, what
Speaker 1: do we got, hey, Speedy? I love this week. I
Speaker 1: love the draft because I cover college football, so I
Speaker 1: get to watch these guys developed by interview them over
Speaker 1: the years, in some cases meet their families. So it's
Speaker 1: a really special week for me and watching these guys.
Speaker 1: But remember last year was all virtual was out of
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's basement. It was so weird. This year, he's
Speaker 1: fully vaccinated. He has confirmed he will be hugging draftees
Speaker 1: on stage. The bro hugs can resume. That's always an
Speaker 1: awesome moment. To watch, Oh don't you love It? And
Speaker 1: then only thirteen draftees are scheduled to be in attendance
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Others will be taking part virtually like we've
Speaker 1: seen in the past, but getting back to some normalcy.
Speaker 1: And this year, a lot of people and pundits think
Speaker 1: that this is a big draft for quarterbacks. Do you agree? Oh? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And it's not uncommon for the first four picks to
Speaker 1: I'll be quarterbacks last year, three at the top six
Speaker 1: or quarterbacks. But the names you have to know this
Speaker 1: year Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Zack Wilson, Trey Lance, and
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Trevor Lawrence will definitely go number one overall
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars. Remember he started three years at Clemson.
Speaker 1: All three seasons took him to the College Football playoffs
Speaker 1: as a starter, he only lost two games, and he's
Speaker 1: had an incredible season. He's mature, he's savvy, and what
Speaker 1: I like is he recently got married and their wedding
Speaker 1: registry was public and a lot of Jaguars fans bought
Speaker 1: a ton of gifts on their register. Just the world
Speaker 1: we live in. So he already has a good relationship
Speaker 1: building in Jacksonville, and then the Jets have the number
Speaker 1: two draft pick. They're looking for a quarterback. They recently
Speaker 1: traded away Sam Donald to Carolina, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people think that they like b y U quarterback Zack Wilson.
Speaker 1: He will be one of those thirteen draftees in attendance.
Speaker 1: He had a great regular season thirty three touchdowns, three interceptions,
Speaker 1: down from nine the year before. And he really he's
Speaker 1: appointment television. He's so fun to watch improv. He's electric.
Speaker 1: And then the forty Niners traded up for the third pick,
Speaker 1: So flip a coin. That's Justin Fields or mac Jones.
Speaker 1: Mac Jones was once the third quarterback on the depth
Speaker 1: chart at Alabama, but he was behind some guys like
Speaker 1: to a tongue of Valoa Jalen Hurts. He was incredible,
Speaker 1: but recently his draft stock has completely risen. He had
Speaker 1: an amazing Senior Bowl campaign. He's not as athletic as
Speaker 1: these other quarterbacks, but he has a lot of momentum
Speaker 1: and he will be one of the players in attendance
Speaker 1: as well as far as Justin Fields from Ohio State,
Speaker 1: he is Mr Cool. He is unfazed. Scouts love that
Speaker 1: about him. He had a really up and down season.
Speaker 1: The Big Ten had their late start, Ohio State had
Speaker 1: a lot of games canceled due to COVID. His play suffered,
Speaker 1: especially in the Big Ten championship game. He played great
Speaker 1: against Clemson in the semifinal and then they lost in
Speaker 1: the National Championship to Bama. But you know, he recently
Speaker 1: went on a plant based diet, and I'm very curious
Speaker 1: to talk to Chatto Chosinko about diet later because my
Speaker 1: man's no work close. He's eeing a lot of McDonald's
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Yeah, I don't know that his diet is
Speaker 1: like yours, Olivia. We know that you are a very
Speaker 1: healthy eater. Chat is almost the tithesis of that. Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: it makes my skin curl. And then the last quarterbacks
Speaker 1: beauties Trey Lance from North Dakota State. To put it
Speaker 1: in perspective, draft expert Mel Kuiper Jr. Says he's the
Speaker 1: biggest wild card evaluation in his entire career. That's decades
Speaker 1: worth of draft analysis and he started as a red
Speaker 1: shirt freshman. The stat everyone loves about Trey Lance as
Speaker 1: he had zero interceptions in his first season as a
Speaker 1: starter and I covered a couple of his games that
Speaker 1: was on like three passing attempts. It was crazy. Twenty
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns, zero interceptions in his first year as a starter.
Speaker 1: The problem with Trey Lance is this past year with COVID,
Speaker 1: they had a one game season which was more or
Speaker 1: less scheduled to be an exhibition showcase game for him,
Speaker 1: and he didn't really play great. So big question mark
Speaker 1: is Trey Lance. And really whatever the Falcons do with
Speaker 1: the fourth overall pick is going to affect where all
Speaker 1: these guys fall. And here we're recording Sunday night. By
Speaker 1: Thursday we should have answers and our draft starts Thursday night.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. But quarterback is the name of the game.
Speaker 1: Quarterback is the name of the game. Diet is also
Speaker 1: a big one, and I can't wait for you to
Speaker 1: get to ask chat about it. So without further Ado,
Speaker 1: let's bring them on. Well, there are three things certain
Speaker 1: in life, death taxes, and number eighty five is open.
Speaker 1: Welcome to unleashed Dono Sinko. How are you and where
Speaker 1: are you right now? I'm in Jacksonville, tended the m
Speaker 1: m A fight last night for my guy or at
Speaker 1: masses off obviously we didn't win. But it's okay because
Speaker 1: it's it's okay. In life, you never get directions, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna be wins, they're gonna be losses. And we
Speaker 1: we took that one. We took that loss with grace,
Speaker 1: and he called he took it with grace, with grace,
Speaker 1: took it with grace. I I don't know if you
Speaker 1: took it with grace. We've seen you upset. I know
Speaker 1: you put some money on it too. You slammed the table,
Speaker 1: you lost fifty men's is everything all right? Listen, if
Speaker 1: people know me and they follow me and followed my
Speaker 1: my structure, in my way of living throughout the years,
Speaker 1: and how cheap I am, you would know that would
Speaker 1: just basically content purposes. And I would really never bet
Speaker 1: fifty grand on anything, let alone spend it and put
Speaker 1: it on someone else where. It's not where the end
Speaker 1: result is not in my control. Absolutely not. I wear
Speaker 1: a target. I get my jury from Claire's. Come on,
Speaker 1: that's some good insight. I like that. And listen, content purposes,
Speaker 1: it's like watching wrastling, Is it really really? Did you
Speaker 1: actually or did you just bet nothing? But it's it's
Speaker 1: a great content. No, I don't. I don't. I don't gamble.
Speaker 1: Don't gamble. I mean people that know me know I
Speaker 1: don't gamble. People that know me. No, I don't spend
Speaker 1: any money. Well, hang on, now you're saying you're frugal,
Speaker 1: but I saw you tweet recently that you would pay
Speaker 1: someone to pick you up at your hotel and pays
Speaker 1: to take you to Starbucks. That's different. That is giving.
Speaker 1: That is giving. Why not, right? No? Because Uber baby,
Speaker 1: what happened over If they weren't, what happened, I want
Speaker 1: to start up this day. They didn't. They weren't delivering
Speaker 1: at the hotel I was staying at. And I need
Speaker 1: my fix every morning for the past thirty forty I'm
Speaker 1: fifty now, yeah, forty years. I need my coffee every morning.
Speaker 1: And I was I was going, you can Uber to Starbucks. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that. I think I think
Speaker 1: it would have been nice engaging with the fans on Twitter,
Speaker 1: having someone picked me up and rewarding them for coming
Speaker 1: going out their way on a Saturday morning to picking
Speaker 1: up to get my coffee. You know, you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: to pay someone to do that. There's so many people
Speaker 1: who do that for free to meet you know, I
Speaker 1: think more so I like, I like the giving part.
Speaker 1: Better didn't pan out that way and someone actually come
Speaker 1: get your Yeah, yeah, yeah, I posted three part story.
Speaker 1: It's there on Twitter, still there. I love it. You're
Speaker 1: all about the content, you're a social media savant. But
Speaker 1: really with with the diet stuff i've it blows my
Speaker 1: mind seeing what you're eating. I know it's a lot
Speaker 1: of yellow cake, chocolate icing McDonald's. Wait a minute, I see.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, listen, so good, so good. Are you
Speaker 1: health health nut or are you like yeah, I am god, No,
Speaker 1: you need just you need to stick to my meal
Speaker 1: plan six months, six months, okay, eating in moderation, junk food,
Speaker 1: cosmic brownies, honey buns, I'm in noodles, cigars, to day
Speaker 1: workouts I do two days, Yes, yes, I do, I do.
Speaker 1: I saw you speaking to Cam Newton about this and
Speaker 1: he was not having it. He's all plant based. I
Speaker 1: got him. I got him the plan based. It ain't working.
Speaker 1: Ain't working. No, it's not. It's not working. So he's
Speaker 1: on my plan. Now. I have a few other NFL
Speaker 1: athletes under my ultra Versus science dietary plan and they're
Speaker 1: going to be successful because of it. Jed, I haven't
Speaker 1: had a cosmic Brownie since maybe two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: Are they still as good? Do they still hit the same?
Speaker 1: They still hit the same? Why haven't you? Why haven't you?
Speaker 1: I just feel like I graduated out of it. My
Speaker 1: tastality evolved. And listen, you know, you know what. You're alive,
Speaker 1: but you're not living. That's what you're doing. You're alive,
Speaker 1: but you're really not living. You know it's graduate. Graduating
Speaker 1: is awesome, but never never ever lead the foundation that
Speaker 1: built you. And that's what Brownies did. That's a fact,
Speaker 1: that's true. Same with McDonald's breakfast. But you're a big
Speaker 1: fan of Yes, you don't eat. You don't even gown
Speaker 1: with breakfast either. It's been a long time. I gotta
Speaker 1: be my no way, dude. You guys are torturing your bodies.
Speaker 1: You're torturing your bodies on the proper nutrients that it needs.
Speaker 1: And it's not the stuff that scientists are told you
Speaker 1: to eat. I'm telling you your body, Yes, the body
Speaker 1: on the inside. It's screaming right now, both of you.
Speaker 1: It's screaming. You don't even know it. Okay, speaking of screaming,
Speaker 1: I know you're an avid gamer war Zone Call of Duty.
Speaker 1: There was a big update in the game this week,
Speaker 1: so it's a big week in my house. But how
Speaker 1: been loves war Zone? Have you played the new update yet?
Speaker 1: And who do you play with? Is it former athletes?
Speaker 1: This is the problem. I've been traveling since up they
Speaker 1: came out on the twenty second when not mistaken, I've
Speaker 1: been in Jacksonville since the twenty one, so I missed
Speaker 1: the update. I don't have my Xbox, I don't have
Speaker 1: my PS five, and I haven't been able to do it.
Speaker 1: I told the wife before she left to come see
Speaker 1: me here in Jackskille turn my PS five one into
Speaker 1: the updates, so once I do get there, I could
Speaker 1: just be don't want to play. So I haven't experienced
Speaker 1: a new update yet. That's brilliant though, because those updates
Speaker 1: are huge, so so shout out to wife. You's returning
Speaker 1: the system on. But as Olivia asked, who do you
Speaker 1: play with other athletes? You play with just fans. I
Speaker 1: played with some of the athletes, I obviously do play
Speaker 1: with fans, and I play with some of the pro
Speaker 1: gamers Aiden Nick Marks, Cuskers I played with some of
Speaker 1: those guys. I carry him because I mean, without me,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be who they are. That's your Twitter bio.
Speaker 1: You've carried swaging and all the rest of these big
Speaker 1: exactly swag exactly. And the funny thing about it, I
Speaker 1: tell her I feel her pain because I feel like,
Speaker 1: once this update came out, I lost my husband for
Speaker 1: the week. It's all he can do now is play
Speaker 1: this game. It's driving me crazy. Well listen, she's had
Speaker 1: me for a week. She's had me for a week.
Speaker 1: And so once I get back after doing this work,
Speaker 1: that is my downtime in my sense of peace and
Speaker 1: outlet from from life man at all, especially after you know,
Speaker 1: just just I'm tearing up a little bit because gaming
Speaker 1: is such an important aspect of my life. Well it's
Speaker 1: it's causing a real rift in my marriage. So I'm
Speaker 1: glad you love it so much because this damn game. Man,
Speaker 1: that's the marriage, and that's what marriage is about. Marriage
Speaker 1: is about balance. Because before you met him, he was gaming, right,
Speaker 1: I guess see that's the joy of it. No, there
Speaker 1: wasn't before me. There was nothing before me. Know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you. I have this wonderful
Speaker 1: saying by a friend of mine. Gaming is forever sexist, temporary.
Speaker 1: Oh man, think about that. Think about that. That is
Speaker 1: that the legendary Frost said that. That is a legendary
Speaker 1: comment until this day it stands. Think about it. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's accurate or factual. A think about
Speaker 1: what was your your fellow host, what's his name? Speedy? Speedy?
Speaker 1: Do you game at all? Sometimes? Yeah? Sometimes casually. Can
Speaker 1: you remember how many relationships you've been in life to
Speaker 1: this point? Yes? How many? Zero? Zero? Zero? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but gaming has always been around there, right, It's not
Speaker 1: done anywhere, It's always been there, accessible whenever I needed it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. That's the point I'm trying to make.
Speaker 1: That's why gaming comes first, Oscar. Yes, no, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is an epic moment. Well, your wife, Your wife is
Speaker 1: a patient and beautiful woman, so I give her a
Speaker 1: lot of props. But it is it is us against
Speaker 1: war zones. So the battle continues. Now, let's let's get
Speaker 1: back to football. It's draft week. Everyone is so excited.
Speaker 1: I've been watching. I'm excited, you are excited, very very
Speaker 1: I'm curious, and I got kind of personally piste off
Speaker 1: at the scouts some of the things that they put
Speaker 1: out there on some of the players specimpically the DeVante
Speaker 1: Smith worried about size, worried about heightened and these measurables,
Speaker 1: the measurables that count are the ones you can't even
Speaker 1: measure hard. You know, there's a certain its fact that
Speaker 1: individuals have that makes them special or elite talents. Davante
Speaker 1: Smith being one of those individuals, and they're talking about
Speaker 1: heightened size and being too small when none of that,
Speaker 1: none of that plays a factor in when it comes
Speaker 1: to the fact, can you help my team? Can you
Speaker 1: better my team? Can you play a specific position and
Speaker 1: help my team? He just won the high School Trophy
Speaker 1: for a reason against the top competition in the what's
Speaker 1: the sec SEC right, because the best company and you're
Speaker 1: talking about he's only one sixty. Like what are these
Speaker 1: scouts doing? Like what are you doing? Is people like
Speaker 1: that or put information out like that has causedes owners
Speaker 1: and gems to miss out on special talents because the
Speaker 1: stuff that has nothing to do with the game of
Speaker 1: football and and chaid that's the problem that we've started
Speaker 1: to see as well in basketball with these kind of
Speaker 1: statistics and over owners and stuff like that. Is this
Speaker 1: you think a problem that is just across sports where
Speaker 1: we need to let what the athletes do on the
Speaker 1: court and on the field dictate things more. Thank you
Speaker 1: film film, the I test. Scouts have this thing called
Speaker 1: the I Test. The test is great. No look to
Speaker 1: part side, always big, always strong, always fast. That means nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh he runs the fort yard, dass in the four too?
Speaker 1: Four three means nothing. When is the last time you've
Speaker 1: seen the football game played in a straight line? When
Speaker 1: it's all about angles, being able to understand leverage and
Speaker 1: technique and and and get a guy leading a certain way,
Speaker 1: and like it's it's so much that goes into it,
Speaker 1: and it seems like the focus is being able to
Speaker 1: run in a straight line. Turn on the film. How
Speaker 1: do they perform against top competition and under pressure and
Speaker 1: imprescious situations? That's it? Ain't it? Ain't rocket science? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I agree? Now you were a long time Bengal. They
Speaker 1: have the fifth pick. A lot of people think Penny Sewell,
Speaker 1: the top offensive tackle of Oregon, would be the smartest move.
Speaker 1: Where do you think they need to invest for me?
Speaker 1: I think Penny school is a great fit a great fit.
Speaker 1: Me knowing Joe Burrow, I think he wants you, mar Chaise,
Speaker 1: I think and yeah, and and having one a great
Speaker 1: great offensive weapon, a loot to go along with Tyler
Speaker 1: Boyd and t Higgins. And I think they can get
Speaker 1: another adequate, decent left tackle or right tackle, whatever it
Speaker 1: is that they might think they need, and maybe later
Speaker 1: in the draft or later in the second or third round,
Speaker 1: there will be some other decent players that they can
Speaker 1: get that can that they can make into a you know,
Speaker 1: a great left or right tackle. You know, I recently
Speaker 1: watched your Larry King interview from years ago, and I
Speaker 1: think every athlete should watch it. The way that you
Speaker 1: talk about the mentality of the game. And I've heard
Speaker 1: your favorite Bill Belichick story a couple of times of
Speaker 1: him ripping Tom Brady And what's your favorite Tom? Oh?
Speaker 1: Do I have that wrong? No? That was right, Like
Speaker 1: it was crazy great. That talk about setting the tone
Speaker 1: and understanding, getting getting a better understanding what the Patriot
Speaker 1: Way is. And now everybody is held accountable. How you
Speaker 1: ripping Tom Brady of all people the first day about
Speaker 1: a game where he messed up last year previously when
Speaker 1: they lost to the jets of the playoffs, and he
Speaker 1: puts up the film of the mistakes he made and
Speaker 1: he rips them heading into the previous season. It's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: that that to me, that that was that just set
Speaker 1: the standard and it gave me a better understanding on
Speaker 1: why they went consistently year and a year out because
Speaker 1: it starts at the top. If you can chastise your
Speaker 1: star player, you're a goal player in front of the
Speaker 1: entire team. It sets the tone for everybody else. Well,
Speaker 1: that's such a good Belichick story. But what's your best
Speaker 1: Tom Brady story that explains who he is a little bit?
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't really have any great Time
Speaker 1: Brady stories except just being with him that year and
Speaker 1: watching him work and prepare, you know, in meetings and
Speaker 1: go over game plans and go over situations down in
Speaker 1: distance with at the time Bill O'Brien was an almost
Speaker 1: a coordinator, and just sitting in those meetings with him
Speaker 1: and watching how they go over the same thing over
Speaker 1: and over and over and over and being very meticulous
Speaker 1: on down and distance and what we would do, what
Speaker 1: would happen if the defense did this? Like there was
Speaker 1: always an answer for everything. It was always answer for everything.
Speaker 1: So no matter what defense is through it, Tim, he
Speaker 1: was always ready and I think that's what made not
Speaker 1: just Tom special, but also Peyton Manning. I'm just throwing
Speaker 1: him out there because those are two of you know,
Speaker 1: the two, and it just done great things in this NFL.
Speaker 1: It was time about the fight. I thought. I saw
Speaker 1: you guys embraced one another. I was there. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was talking with Tom for a while. He was there
Speaker 1: with Mike Evans and the backup quarterback. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what the backup quarterback is, but he was sitting right
Speaker 1: next to him. What you guys catch up about, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just just catching up. Tell him hello, we exchange
Speaker 1: are my my famous? I love you as as I
Speaker 1: do with everyone I see. That was it. That's how
Speaker 1: I was doing. He's doing good. Talked about the season
Speaker 1: a little bit coming up, and yeah, that was pretty
Speaker 1: much it. I saw a B maybe was there sitting
Speaker 1: on the opposite side. Maybe he was there with Dake,
Speaker 1: Maybe he was there with Jake Paul, which was was
Speaker 1: a little funny combination. That's what I was about to
Speaker 1: add to you about. So I saw you. I saw
Speaker 1: you also embrace a B who was there with Jake Paul.
Speaker 1: Jake Paul just fought and knocked out be Ascer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to a lot of people's dismay into some other joy.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm curious as to what you feel about
Speaker 1: Jake Paul. He's a polarizing figure, to say the least.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. He's a polarizing figure
Speaker 1: and he hasn't figured out. He has to figure out
Speaker 1: you have a small window of opportunity to maximize the
Speaker 1: potential and a social media area, social media era. And
Speaker 1: he's got it down to a t. He got it
Speaker 1: down to a science, you know when people are buying
Speaker 1: into it. And this is one of the things I
Speaker 1: always see on on the podcast I'm on with Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall and I am Athlete. It's okay to be the villain.
Speaker 1: It's okay to be the villain because the villain is
Speaker 1: going to pay off, and it's paying off dividends. For
Speaker 1: like last night, they're channing the entire the entire crowd.
Speaker 1: Its channing if Jake Paul, if the entire crowd, he
Speaker 1: stands up and puts up the middle finger to the
Speaker 1: whole crowd. Everybody starts boing like like he really got
Speaker 1: this thing down to a science, like he gets it,
Speaker 1: he gets it, and I love I loved it. I
Speaker 1: loved it. No, that's awesome. He knows how to work it.
Speaker 1: You know how to work it is being a villain.
Speaker 1: Was that kind of a part of your game? I
Speaker 1: mean you were known to be an amazing smack talker. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: See it's kind of different for me, is my I
Speaker 1: never did anything malicious. My way of going at my
Speaker 1: opponents was more in a competitive way. It was trash talking,
Speaker 1: but more in a entertainment typestyle, like not in your face,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do this. No, I'm gonna score, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna celebrate, and it's a challenge to you to be
Speaker 1: able to stop me, you know, And that that was
Speaker 1: pretty much it. So my way of doing it was
Speaker 1: more about entertaining and making sure you've got your money's
Speaker 1: worth when you came to watch me play. I love that.
Speaker 1: Who in the game right now? Do you feel like
Speaker 1: has that same sense about him? Who do you love
Speaker 1: watching play? Especially right receivers? I think no, there's nobody
Speaker 1: with that personality. But there are some any medals that
Speaker 1: have the game that you know, the exact same game
Speaker 1: and style and and flair. They just don't let the
Speaker 1: mouth come along with it. Davante Adams, Keenan Allen, Julio Jones,
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, amazing rookie year, you know, Stefan Diggs like
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a bunch of them. They have a
Speaker 1: certain flare about their game if they had the personality
Speaker 1: to go with it occurreds All. The personality happens to
Speaker 1: be on the defensive side of the ball. Now, it's funny.
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey absolutely like he he got to Richard Sherman.
Speaker 1: You know, they have it. It just seems like the
Speaker 1: personalities have flipped to the opposite side of the balls.
Speaker 1: Are their players in other sports or other major professional
Speaker 1: leagues that you see this personality and just to broaden
Speaker 1: it from football a bit, because someone who comes to
Speaker 1: mind for me is young Anthony Edwards from the Timberwoops. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and he's good and he has the mouth and he's
Speaker 1: he's very honest, especially when he's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: who Alex Roger Guys is, you know, but he probably
Speaker 1: really doesn't know. He probably really doesn't know, but his
Speaker 1: game can back up everything else. Yeah, this game, it
Speaker 1: backs it up. So I mean, just him being him
Speaker 1: is it's exciting. It's exciting. And NB, I can't think
Speaker 1: of any villains, any villains with a personality. Everybody's more
Speaker 1: just about their business. Kevin during his viewed as a
Speaker 1: villain too many. Yeah, in in a sense, in a
Speaker 1: sense that he doesn't play into it though, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: done play into it now, even on the soccer field.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're a man of so many interests.
Speaker 1: In my home jail in Kansas City, you are involved
Speaker 1: a sporting casey for a little bit, walk me through
Speaker 1: those steps and and how you know NFL wide receiver
Speaker 1: was so different from making it in professional soccer. Well,
Speaker 1: obviously I didn't have the resources to play soccer growing up.
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm from Liberty City, which is a an Okay area,
Speaker 1: but soccer really isn't one where you could you can
Speaker 1: play or even achieve at the highest level. So in
Speaker 1: order for me to get out thinking long term as
Speaker 1: far as a career is concerned, it was it was football,
Speaker 1: But soccer for some reason was always embedded in my
Speaker 1: heart and something that I wanted to play. Didn't have
Speaker 1: the resources to do so so as I climbed the ladder.
Speaker 1: I use soccer as a way to train in a sense,
Speaker 1: to prepare myself for football along with other things, and
Speaker 1: just that love for it is still there. We had
Speaker 1: a lockout. I don't remember what year that lockout was,
Speaker 1: and Peter Vermice, I think is the head coach at
Speaker 1: Sporting g C. He gave the opportunity to come out
Speaker 1: and have a trial run. Not that I was really
Speaker 1: going to make the team, because it takes years and
Speaker 1: years of experience, you know, to be able to make
Speaker 1: a team, even if that mannitude, even though the MLS
Speaker 1: is seen is you know how people are, it's it's
Speaker 1: still that's good quality soccer, and I just I just
Speaker 1: can't do it. But the experience was fun. Experience was fun,
Speaker 1: and I was very thankful for that. Did you ever
Speaker 1: have a chance to salsa on a soccer field? No,
Speaker 1: because that would that would require me to score. That
Speaker 1: would be and it's not as easy as people think.
Speaker 1: Oh of course, no, highest level of course. Now just
Speaker 1: back to this year's draft then, as you do look
Speaker 1: at quarterbacks. Everyone's talking about the quarterbacks, especially that they
Speaker 1: think maybe the top five picks, top four picks could
Speaker 1: all be quarterbacks. Who catches your eye, who jumps off
Speaker 1: the tape, who passes that eye test for you? My
Speaker 1: favorite is Zach Wilson. I like Justin Fields. Yes, um, okay,
Speaker 1: well I forgot the guy from North North Dakota Tree
Speaker 1: Lance Tree Lance Tree. Lances is nice, obvious Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: his resume speaks for itself. But Zach Wilson as is
Speaker 1: very Patrick Mahomish. His body language, his mechanics, these mechanics,
Speaker 1: just throwing motions aside arm and throwing off the back foot,
Speaker 1: you know, just being accurate, throwing across his body. He
Speaker 1: had that same type of style and and once quarterback cool.
Speaker 1: Just get a hang of him and don't try to
Speaker 1: change aids him. But this add to what he already has.
Speaker 1: I really think he's going to be somewhere in that realm.
Speaker 1: That's that's exciting. It reminds me of Baker Mayfield coming
Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma in a little bit. You know, he's
Speaker 1: just not as boisterous with it, but his mechanics and
Speaker 1: his mannerisms are if that makes sense. Yeah, No, he's
Speaker 1: he's good improv He maybe that boisterous nous will come
Speaker 1: with confidence years in the league probably or or the opposite,
Speaker 1: or you get beaten down to a pole. I mean,
Speaker 1: Robert Sala, if I'm sure he's going to the Jets,
Speaker 1: I mean that that should be a lot. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. You got the right coach. As long as
Speaker 1: Jets Jets management allows Robert s allow to build a
Speaker 1: team around him and allow him to do what he
Speaker 1: needs to do to make sure his quarterbacks is successful,
Speaker 1: He'll be fine. Do you have any interest in working
Speaker 1: in NFL front of office for the NFL and any
Speaker 1: further capacity? Absolutely not. Absolutely. I like my freedom. I
Speaker 1: like to be able to work with different people, you know,
Speaker 1: with NFL films based report and all, you know, other
Speaker 1: other outlets and just freely roam and just be myself.
Speaker 1: And you put me in the NFL office, so tie,
Speaker 1: then I have to dumb down who I am and
Speaker 1: what what makes Chad Chad? And that is really not
Speaker 1: that doesn't work for me like that, Chad, I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you something that potentially could mean a lot to me.
Speaker 1: Is it true that you had a two point to
Speaker 1: g p A or is this all a joke? It
Speaker 1: was a joke. It wasn't a joke, okay, because this
Speaker 1: is trending on Twitter, I'm like, what is happening yesterday?
Speaker 1: Like if you if you follow my tweets, well, I
Speaker 1: think for people that follow me, people that follow me
Speaker 1: with no my exchange with my kids, the messages are
Speaker 1: always funny, but when they asked for stuff, I always
Speaker 1: say something outlandish, like I had to walk eight miles
Speaker 1: school appeal both ways and freaking heels in Miami heels
Speaker 1: in Miami, like just like such a dad, and like
Speaker 1: nobody caught on to the point of of anything. I
Speaker 1: didn't even work at McDonald's, Like it's it's all a joke,
Speaker 1: and I just fed into it and just kept it
Speaker 1: going right. And it's funny seeing all the I don't
Speaker 1: want to google people, but of course obviously gonna believe
Speaker 1: it because I'm tweeting it. They also believe that because
Speaker 1: you asked me, like people that told me but no
Speaker 1: my cheapest, Well, what was your Probably a three too, okay,
Speaker 1: so you just what it was. So you just took
Speaker 1: a point off of it and made it a too
Speaker 1: too for the sake of joke. I did it. I
Speaker 1: made it too too because it would be for the
Speaker 1: sake of the joke. Yeah, it would be funny. And
Speaker 1: everybody ran with that that she was hilarious. They're still
Speaker 1: going on. I know it's crazy. I like it. I
Speaker 1: like it. I like it. I am a master throat. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're very aware. We're very aware. I want to go back.
Speaker 1: So you said that, you know, yesterday you tried to
Speaker 1: coordinate a Starbucks school or somebody could come for five
Speaker 1: d it wind up happening. And I want to talk
Speaker 1: quickly about a thousand dollars round round trip. I don't
Speaker 1: even have a license. I probably would have risked it,
Speaker 1: so just for the for the thousand, But I want
Speaker 1: to talk about a time too, a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: where you used to just pull up at people's cribs
Speaker 1: and play them in FIFA Olivia. Did you know that
Speaker 1: Chad used to do this. He would just tweet you
Speaker 1: know something and then just pull up and chilling somebody's
Speaker 1: mom's living room or basement and play Chad. How would
Speaker 1: you summarize what that experience was like, just going to
Speaker 1: strangers homes and beating or losing to them in FIFA.
Speaker 1: It was fun. It's always happened during track season around
Speaker 1: the summertime when we when we would be traveling, so
Speaker 1: obviously I sit at a track meet and my daughter
Speaker 1: would run her race. Regardless of what state we're in.
Speaker 1: I would have to rent a car. And I sent
Speaker 1: out the tweet, and I just find those and look
Speaker 1: at their tweets and see if they play fee for
Speaker 1: looking at previous tweets. They look at their profiles and
Speaker 1: see if it's anything Sucker related. And I would I
Speaker 1: would just just drive up and just play. And did
Speaker 1: you win more or lose more? Would you say, oh,
Speaker 1: one more? One more? I mean, you gotta think the
Speaker 1: pandemic mess, all the traveling up last year. So I
Speaker 1: didn't do it, but I did it. I think summer.
Speaker 1: I believe I'm not mistaken, and I I won way more.
Speaker 1: I love I rarely lost, rarely lost. That that is fun.
Speaker 1: Just that is fun. Just playing games. Yeah, that's that's fun. Well,
Speaker 1: last thing before we let you go, Chad. You know
Speaker 1: if people follow you on social don't see all the
Speaker 1: time that you're an amazing giver. You will give incredible
Speaker 1: tip amounts. Even if the bill is a dollar two dollars,
Speaker 1: you might leave two hundred three d four hundred, five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars based off of how much you enjoyed your
Speaker 1: experience here on unleashed. What proverbial tip would you leave
Speaker 1: us here? What would we be in the two hundred
Speaker 1: dollar range? Maybe the four or five? What are you thinking?
Speaker 1: You know what? The funny thing I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: tip based on service or based on how people treat me.
Speaker 1: I tipped based on how I am, regardless of interaction
Speaker 1: with an individually. Okay, so I mean if this was
Speaker 1: a service based on what you guys have done for
Speaker 1: me in this platform that run, I probably tip my
Speaker 1: usual thousand. Thank you. The usual thousand is enough for
Speaker 1: us chat. I appreciate that, my dog, Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time. You are truly one
Speaker 1: of a kind of josinco. Thank you, pleasure pleasure be
Speaker 1: will Chad, thank you? Alright, guys, you guys be blessed.
Speaker 1: Evan Silva, co founder of Established the Run. You can
Speaker 1: listen to that wherever you find your podcast. I especially
Speaker 1: recommend their latest episode, number one seventy nine. It's a
Speaker 1: much deeper dive of the draft, going team by team.
Speaker 1: So Evan, let's start there. If you can give us
Speaker 1: a shortened version, a cliff notes version. We've already dissected
Speaker 1: the top five. We've already dissected some of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: But give us your take on maybe that top five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that one and two are locked in.
Speaker 1: I think that Trevor Lawrence is going to the Jaguars
Speaker 1: for sure. I think that Zack Wilson is going to
Speaker 1: the Jets for sure. And then the draft starts to
Speaker 1: get interesting. At number three. You talk to people around
Speaker 1: the league. They believe it's going to be Mac Jones
Speaker 1: of Alabama, just a one year starter in college. But
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan has apparently fallen in love with this guy.
Speaker 1: But there are also people within the forty Niners organization
Speaker 1: that are pulling for Trey Lance, who is a Patrick
Speaker 1: mahomesy and talent out of North Dakota State. Had twenty
Speaker 1: eight touchdown passes in one interception in his college career,
Speaker 1: sixteen rushing touchdowns, you know, very few turnovers. Can run,
Speaker 1: is big, powerful, you know, has a powerful arm, but
Speaker 1: only had three eighteen pass attempts in his college career.
Speaker 1: Mcpatrick Mahomes last year in the NFL had six sixty
Speaker 1: pass attempts so you know, considered to be raw, but
Speaker 1: also allows them to keep Jimmy Garoppolo for a year
Speaker 1: to be the sort of placeholder and the bridge until
Speaker 1: they get to Trey Lance and they want to keep
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. They truly, they still really, you know, regard
Speaker 1: him highly. They traded a lot to get him, they
Speaker 1: paid him a lot of money, but he is the
Speaker 1: perfect bridge and placeholder to Tray Lance. But I think
Speaker 1: it's still I think it's Matt Jones Trey Lance. I
Speaker 1: think that people that believe that it might be justin
Speaker 1: fields are are gonna be, you know, if they're betting
Speaker 1: on that, they're gonna be donating to whatever sports book
Speaker 1: they're they're investing in Evan if I can stop you there.
Speaker 1: With Trey Lance, a couple of things that I find
Speaker 1: shady about his draft stock and positioning. This past season
Speaker 1: was a one game season and he didn't play great. Typically,
Speaker 1: they play inside the far Goo Dome, that's indoors, it's
Speaker 1: passer friendly, and it's FCS talent levels. So do those
Speaker 1: three factors go against him enough to make a team
Speaker 1: like the hesitate, Yes, yes, I mean absolutely. Those are
Speaker 1: all sources of of you know, questioning about Trey Lance's
Speaker 1: future and his his scouting report, but he is also
Speaker 1: a guy that I mean, he he I think he's
Speaker 1: from Minnesota. He's played in the cold weather. If he
Speaker 1: were to go to San Francisco, he's not playing the
Speaker 1: cold weather anyway, so he'll be playing I mean maybe
Speaker 1: when they go to Seattle when it's raining a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you know, otherwise they play you know, l A.
Speaker 1: You know, they play in San Francisco, So that's not
Speaker 1: really a big knock on him as it pertains to
Speaker 1: becoming a San Francisco forty niner. Evan. On the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball, who is your favorite? Who do
Speaker 1: you think is the best bet? Well, the defensive players
Speaker 1: don't really come into play until maybe at the earliest
Speaker 1: number eight overall to Carolina, and I think more likely
Speaker 1: number ten overall to Dallas. Dallas needs defensive personnel big time.
Speaker 1: They had one of the worst defense in the league
Speaker 1: last year and all they really did was changed defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators from Mike Nolan to Dan Quinn. And that's typically
Speaker 1: not enough. You need better players, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: the coach is really only as good as his personnel.
Speaker 1: Dictates and they need more personnel. So I think that
Speaker 1: Patrick's or Tan a cornerback out of Alabama, j C. Horne,
Speaker 1: a cornerback out of South Carolina. Jalen Phillips Miami Florida
Speaker 1: defensive edge rusher. These guys are in play for for
Speaker 1: Dallas at number ten. You brought up Carolina earlier. The
Speaker 1: move they're making with Sam Donald and how they're they're
Speaker 1: saying they're gonna wait till after the draft. They haven'tntil
Speaker 1: May three to pick up his option. Do you think
Speaker 1: that this is smoke screens posturing. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: trying to create a trade market and give the idea
Speaker 1: that maybe they're trying to get a quarterback, or do
Speaker 1: you think they like Donald and want to stick with them. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that they are one of the most interesting
Speaker 1: teams drafting in the top ten. I think that they're
Speaker 1: one of the most the least predictable teams. They could
Speaker 1: go a number of ways. They could go quarterback. They
Speaker 1: used their entire draft last year on defensive players they drafted.
Speaker 1: I think seven or eight players all play on defense.
Speaker 1: They could use offensive line help for sure. I think
Speaker 1: that actually, if you look at sports books, like they
Speaker 1: are one of the likeliest teams based on the odds,
Speaker 1: to draft a defensive player at number eight overall. But
Speaker 1: you know, again, they could also draft wide receiver. Neither
Speaker 1: of their current top two receivers, Robbie Anderson and d J. Moore,
Speaker 1: are under contract past this this this upcoming season, so
Speaker 1: they could go a number of different ways. They did trade.
Speaker 1: They didn't trade that much to get Sam Donald though.
Speaker 1: They only trade a six round pick this year and
Speaker 1: a second round pick in a fourth round pick next year,
Speaker 1: which is the equivalent if you look at the draft
Speaker 1: value chart of like the overall pick this year, so
Speaker 1: that that's really not that much. And they don't have
Speaker 1: a you know, big monetary commitments to to Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: They could have already picked up his option for two,
Speaker 1: which would be nineteen million. They haven't done that yet,
Speaker 1: and they announced publicly today actually that they're not going
Speaker 1: to you that until after the draft decide whether to
Speaker 1: pick up that big option. So hey, if they draft
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you know, if if like Justin Fields falls
Speaker 1: into their lab, they might not pick up that option
Speaker 1: on Sam Donald, and then they've got you know to like,
Speaker 1: you know, imagine like throwing darts at a board in
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and Justin Fields. I think that would actually
Speaker 1: be an ideal scenario for Carolina. Evan, what team do
Speaker 1: you think makes the biggest turnaround this year after who
Speaker 1: they pick up in the draft. Well, I think that
Speaker 1: it very much could be the Broncos. The Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: You look at their offensive line took a huge step
Speaker 1: this past year. I think they're returning almost every starter,
Speaker 1: and they're bringing back Juwan James, who opted out of
Speaker 1: the twenty season at right tackle. He was a big
Speaker 1: ticket free agent signing for them, and he didn't participate
Speaker 1: last season. They had the best offensive line coach in
Speaker 1: the league, Mike Munchak. They have explosiveness at wide receiver
Speaker 1: and that tight end Noah Fanse Courtland Sutton's coming back,
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy kJ Hamler, and they and they're going to
Speaker 1: have a good defense under Vic Fangio because Vic Fangio
Speaker 1: only runs good defenses. And they're getting back Von Miller too,
Speaker 1: by the way, So they need a quarterback though, and
Speaker 1: I think that they know that Drew lock is not
Speaker 1: the answer. I think they've actually known that for two years.
Speaker 1: If they can make a move up. I think the
Speaker 1: Lions at number seven, or maybe even the Falcons up
Speaker 1: at number four could be a trade partner for Denver
Speaker 1: to go get justin fields trade lance, maybe Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: you know what, what whatever one of those quarterbacks falls,
Speaker 1: I think that could help bring the Broncos over the
Speaker 1: top eight. You look at their wind total right now
Speaker 1: on sports books, it's like six and a half seven wins.
Speaker 1: I think this is an eight to ten win team
Speaker 1: and they're they're over on win totals. Is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite bets entering. Yeah, Denver needs a quarterback, Cincinnati
Speaker 1: does not. They have the number five pick. Penny Sewell
Speaker 1: is the top offensive lineman everyone's liking. Do you think
Speaker 1: Rishawn's later out of Northwestern is a close second. I
Speaker 1: feel like there's not as much buzz around him. He
Speaker 1: is a close second. But I think that Penny Swell
Speaker 1: is going to be the first offensive lineman drafted. Even
Speaker 1: as someone that a couple of weeks ago actually put
Speaker 1: some money on racial on Slater to be the first
Speaker 1: offensive lineman drafted, I think I'm gonna end up donating myself,
Speaker 1: you know. So I hope that they I hope the
Speaker 1: sports books used that money wisely, you know the word
Speaker 1: on the street with the Bengals, and this frustrates me,
Speaker 1: you know, just as an outside observer of NFL teams.
Speaker 1: The Bengals, they use the number one overall pick on
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow last year, he took a ton of sacks,
Speaker 1: he tears his A c L. They've had the worst
Speaker 1: offensive line the league for the last decade, and I
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to use this number five pick
Speaker 1: on an offensive lineman. I think they're gonna go for
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. I think they're gonna draft to Marchase
Speaker 1: out of l s U, who played with Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, actually won the Blitna coff Award over
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson of the Vikings, who was in Sane as
Speaker 1: a rookie. But they're playing on the same team. Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase actually outplayed Justin Jefferson. So I think that's what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. I think the ownership has stepped in
Speaker 1: and said we were going to take the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: We're gonna pair him back with Joe Burrow. I think
Speaker 1: as an outside observer, that's maltpracticed for them not to
Speaker 1: take an offensive ar. Yeah, but I think you know,
Speaker 1: the Bengals have not been the best decision making organization
Speaker 1: for a really long time. That's the thing. Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: he is electric, He comes to life if he has
Speaker 1: an elite offensive line, and that's been a weakness there
Speaker 1: so long. It's it's interesting if fans take on the
Speaker 1: draft versus a front office's take on the draft. And
Speaker 1: like earlier you mentioned Detroit, they're kind of in a rebuild.
Speaker 1: And why do you still feel like they're not going
Speaker 1: to maybe trade down because I heard it on your
Speaker 1: podcast that they still may not give up that number
Speaker 1: seven pick because there's kind of an old school mentality
Speaker 1: they're not gonna sacrifice the season. Yeah, I mean they are.
Speaker 1: You know, they have like a lot of old school
Speaker 1: football thinkers like Chris Spielman and John Dorsey and Anthony
Speaker 1: Lynn and Dan Campbell and Dom Caper's all working in
Speaker 1: their organization. And so you know the idea of maybe
Speaker 1: taking a step back for a year and you know,
Speaker 1: doing what the Dolphins did in what the Browns did
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, and you've seen the rise
Speaker 1: of those organizations. It may not make sense to those
Speaker 1: old school football thinkers and but but you know, if
Speaker 1: if we as outside of observers, are looking at this,
Speaker 1: they need to either take a quarterback or trade out.
Speaker 1: And I think that those are the only two options.
Speaker 1: I think that they pretty much took on Jared Golf
Speaker 1: not as a solution for the future, but as just
Speaker 1: a short term, a short term solution. And you know
Speaker 1: a guy that the Rams were like desperate to get
Speaker 1: rid of, Jared Golf. And I think that the Lions
Speaker 1: they need more picks or they need to go with
Speaker 1: a quarterback at justin fields falls them. I think that
Speaker 1: they should take him, other wise they should trade out. Evan.
Speaker 1: My last question for you, who is your dark horse
Speaker 1: to the draft, the person that maybe will be the
Speaker 1: sneaky good pick. I think that the Clemston running back
Speaker 1: Travis Eat and he's not a sleeper, but I think
Speaker 1: that he is a sleeper to go a lot earlier
Speaker 1: in the draft than people think. I think he's got
Speaker 1: a chance to go in the top twenty. He's usually
Speaker 1: mocked like right around the first second turn, and I
Speaker 1: think he might actually go in the top twenty. Also,
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips I mentioned a little bit earlier the defensive
Speaker 1: edge rusher from Miami, Florida. I think he might go
Speaker 1: a lot earlier than people anticipate. I think that J. C. Horne,
Speaker 1: the South Carolina cornerback, is a guy that could go
Speaker 1: actually in the top ten and could be the first
Speaker 1: defensive player selected. But yeah, I mean that those guys
Speaker 1: kind of come to mind. And then my last question
Speaker 1: for you is, Trevor Lawrence would be remiss not to
Speaker 1: talk about the expected number one overall pick. Some pundents
Speaker 1: call him justin Herbert plus, which is incredible. Herbert, of course,
Speaker 1: the offensive rookie of the year. But I've even heard
Speaker 1: people say he's the best quarterback prospect in a draft
Speaker 1: since Andrew Luck in two thousand twelve. Do you think
Speaker 1: that highly of Lawrence? Yeah, I would say so. I
Speaker 1: mean I remember watching him as a freshman. You know
Speaker 1: a lot of people do. I mean, He's played in
Speaker 1: tons of big games. He is, you know, six six
Speaker 1: with a cannon arm, an excellent athlete. He's got big hands,
Speaker 1: he's you know, he runs uh, you know, he averaged
Speaker 1: thirty rushing yards per per start in college. He's the
Speaker 1: kind of guy that can go to Jacksonville and elevate
Speaker 1: their offense right away. Jacksonville actually has pretty an underrated
Speaker 1: offensive line. They're bringing back all five starters. They've got
Speaker 1: DJ Chark, They've got Lavisca Chenault, who's just a nasty talent,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that immediate James Robinson had
Speaker 1: a great rookie year at running back. He's the kind
Speaker 1: of guy who could elevate them from being, you know,
Speaker 1: a bottom five offense last year all of a sudden
Speaker 1: being like a top fifteen offense. He's gonna make the
Speaker 1: offensive line look better. He's gonna make everyone look better.
Speaker 1: That's what Andrew luck did when he went to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: He did not arrive in Indianapolis with you know, stellar
Speaker 1: talent around him. You wind up elevating that talent and
Speaker 1: making everyone around him look better. I think Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: will have the same impact in Jacksonville. That's awesome to
Speaker 1: me here, exciting to see where these guys go in
Speaker 1: the first couple of spots. I also have to thank
Speaker 1: you Evan as a Packer fan. I really enjoyed your
Speaker 1: most recent guest appearance on Rhodo Underworld dissecting why the
Speaker 1: Bears still sucks so thank you for that. That was
Speaker 1: a good listen, Evan Silva, that was That was a
Speaker 1: fun one to write up. I love it. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us on Unleashed. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your draft weekend. Thanks guy. All Right, well we're
Speaker 1: wrapping things up with this week's Lion's Luck. Our dog
Speaker 1: Peter Andrew is back to tell us some more of
Speaker 1: the cool prop bets going on in the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: But before we talk about anything, we've got to talk
Speaker 1: about you know, there was a big void last week.
Speaker 1: We had to fill your seat with a colleague. But
Speaker 1: we hear that you lied to us, Peter, and as
Speaker 1: a co host, we don't like being lied to. No,
Speaker 1: we don't. Oh what did I lie about? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: we heard that you had a big event or you know,
Speaker 1: something important to be at. But then we heard that
Speaker 1: there was a photo of you out on the putting
Speaker 1: green maybe and you ditched us for a round a golf.
Speaker 1: I was in Scottsdale three rounds of golf. You guys
Speaker 1: would be happy to know that I played terribly, So
Speaker 1: I'd rather rather than been on the podcast and then
Speaker 1: on the course. But you live and learn. Oh that
Speaker 1: is too good. Well, let's dig into this NFL draft. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you can bet on who's going when. Can you bet
Speaker 1: on when teams what order they're going in? Can you
Speaker 1: bet on potential trades? Yeah? So you So the trades
Speaker 1: are a little bit tough because it really is dependent
Speaker 1: on ultimately what happens. Obviously, but I've actually I have
Speaker 1: a few bets that I love, and I think it's
Speaker 1: super dependent on when the trades happen. So there's one
Speaker 1: market we have where it's first four picks to be
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and then we also have a market where
Speaker 1: it's first five picks to be a quarterback. So I
Speaker 1: think the first four make a ton of sense. Jacksonville
Speaker 1: and the Jets are obvious. I think we uh Niners
Speaker 1: had represented here by the way. I think pretty obviously
Speaker 1: the Niners are gonna be taking a quarterback. You got
Speaker 1: the Falcons at four, and then five is a bit
Speaker 1: interesting because you have the Bengals there, but I think
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for someone to trade up. So I
Speaker 1: love first four picks to be a quarterback at minus
Speaker 1: one ten, and I also like first five because I
Speaker 1: think a trade will happen, and I think that's plus three,
Speaker 1: so pretty appealing for from a betting perspective, everyone likes
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence going first overall. After that, it's kind of
Speaker 1: comfuttled to use a fake or heard with Zack Wilson,
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Justin Fields, trade lance in order. What does
Speaker 1: Vegas favor? Yeah, so I think it's you nailed it
Speaker 1: with number one. Obviously, Trevor Lawrence is the favorite. I
Speaker 1: think he's minus ten thousands to go first overall. I
Speaker 1: really like Zach Zack Wilson it too. I think the
Speaker 1: Jets are in a weird way. It's a second pick,
Speaker 1: but I think you're getting to steal it too. With
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. I think he has just as much potential,
Speaker 1: if not more than Trevor Lawrence from a Vegas perspective.
Speaker 1: Then it trickles down as probably Matt Jones three, Justin
Speaker 1: Fields four, tray Lands five, and I think it stays
Speaker 1: that way. I think three and four, you know, Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan has that Bill Bell checking in where you never
Speaker 1: know what he's doing. But ultimately I think they go
Speaker 1: they go the safer route with mac Jones, and I
Speaker 1: think Falkins and Justin Fields make a ton of sense.
Speaker 1: I think they have to kind of change their style up.
Speaker 1: Mattie Ice is obviously towards the back end of his tenure,
Speaker 1: and I think a guy like Justin Fields that can
Speaker 1: move quite different than matt Ryan. I think it's necessary
Speaker 1: in the NFL now. So I think they go that
Speaker 1: out of four, what's a good value pick? Then, because
Speaker 1: it's not Trevor Lawrence at ten thousand one, it's not
Speaker 1: the value pick. Probably is taking something outside of Mac
Speaker 1: Jones at three. I think to the point I made
Speaker 1: about Kyle Shanahan where you never know what he's doing,
Speaker 1: I think taking a shot on a Trey Lance or
Speaker 1: even being really crazy and taking a shot at Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: So could could Kyle Shanahan be that crazy to not
Speaker 1: even take the quarterback at three and take maybe the
Speaker 1: best skilled player outside of quarterback at three? Pits is
Speaker 1: that good? He almost reminds me of a combo of
Speaker 1: like a DK Metcalf and a George Kittle. He's just
Speaker 1: a freak freak athlete. He can block, obviously he can
Speaker 1: catch the ball. So I think you have to take
Speaker 1: a shot on some of those picks, and you might
Speaker 1: be wrong, but but the value is just too good
Speaker 1: to pass up. Yeah, they know what George Kittle can
Speaker 1: do for him, so why not invest in another great
Speaker 1: tight end. And I don't know why everyone's thinking they
Speaker 1: need a quarterback and move on from Jimmy g Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a Jimmy guy. I know. I know the direction
Speaker 1: they're probably thinking when they talked about getting a quarterback.
Speaker 1: But I think Jimmy's had some bad luck with injuries.
Speaker 1: I still think you get the job done. And people
Speaker 1: forget two years ago they were in Super Bowl, right,
Speaker 1: Peter Value? Pick a side? Is there a pick or
Speaker 1: or a bet that you personally like. Maybe it's a
Speaker 1: fun bet, maybe it's a prop bet, or maybe it's
Speaker 1: one that you feel like has a lot of upside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's two. I think one's fun and one I
Speaker 1: think just makes sense in my head. So everybody has
Speaker 1: Nagie Harris me and the first running back to be
Speaker 1: drafted this year. I actually love Travis e. Tan He's
Speaker 1: plus one to be the first running back drafted. I
Speaker 1: think similar to last year, everybody thought DeAndre Swift Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor would be one of the first running backs and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden chiefs come out of nowhere
Speaker 1: and apply to Edwards. Hilaire is the first running back
Speaker 1: in the first round drafted um so e t N
Speaker 1: plus one. And then my kind of funky fun pick
Speaker 1: is the always famous Mr irrelevance to the last pick
Speaker 1: in the draft. It's minus one ten for an offensive player,
Speaker 1: minus one ten for a defensive player. But if it's
Speaker 1: a kicker, if it's a kicker, a long snapper or
Speaker 1: punter drafted, it's plus twelve. Why not throw ten bucks
Speaker 1: on there? Ten to win, to win, tot Crazier things
Speaker 1: have happened, and at those odds, why would you not
Speaker 1: just throw a couple of bulls? Yeah? I love that pick.
Speaker 1: I might have to, Uh, I might have to do
Speaker 1: that with my stuff, Peter, and uh and and I'll
Speaker 1: let you guys know what happens. Yeah. Absolutely, it would
Speaker 1: be a fun Thursday, that's sure, and fun weekend of course,
Speaker 1: of course. Well, Peter, thank you always so much for
Speaker 1: joining us. Hopefully next week you're back and not out
Speaker 1: on the pudding green again embarrassing yourself in those three
Speaker 1: rounds of golf. Got my word, I'll be back next Sunday. Okay,
Speaker 1: good all right, well, held you to it. Thanks Peter,
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