1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick, the Cubs 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: split two weeching series with the Milwaukee Brewers. They lose 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: on Thursday when we're recording this eight to seven. 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: It was not a great day. 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: For Jamison ty Own, a rough inning of work for 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Genesis Cabrera, but the offense fought back made it close 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: and the story of the day he had again is 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: Peek or arms wrong. Their brief lead after one inning 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: was due to Pete hitting a two run homer, his 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: twentieth of the year. That's seventy three games to get 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty, fastest for a Cub ever and then 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: fastest tied for fourth fastest with Ken Williams in nineteen 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: twenty two. I believe was the name to tease Conseko 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: and Eric Davis are three to two and one. That 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: so just I mean, it is a nightly or daily 18 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: where Pek Armstrong has to be talked about because he's 19 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: doing something amazing. 20 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: And here it is again, I mean, this is it. 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Feels whole hum but he's doing pretty impressive things, no doubt. 22 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: And I think that's a good segue for what we're 23 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: going to talk about this show, of like when you 24 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: have a player performing like this, you have to maximize it. 25 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: You know, Piker Armstrong have an MVP level season, Kyle 26 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: Tucker's last year of before free agency. There's already been 27 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: one out of nowhere blockbuster happen to sort of kick 28 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: off trading season. And I think in our job, and 29 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: you know, our listeners, I think are probably wondering the 30 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: same thing of like, what does this Giants Red Sox 31 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: blockbuster mean in Chicago? 32 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think obviously Jed's talked about how 33 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: this probably doesn't kick off like a flurry of trades. 34 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: He still believes that will happen after the trade deadline. 35 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: But there is Cubs impact. There's a lot of I 36 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of Cubs ties here and and 37 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: just interesting aspects to this trade that impact the Cubs. 38 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: They you know, this impacts the NL race, makes the 39 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: Giants for the short term at minimum, if not long term, 40 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: as well, a better team. They they've been searching for 41 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: superstars and you know, this is you know, they got 42 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: Matt Chapman on a long term deal and now they 43 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: have Rafael Devers, and I think it says something that 44 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: there's a couple, there's a couple. A lot of different 45 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: things that run through my mind with this. So one 46 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: of the things, one of the first things I remembered was, 47 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, Rafael Devers could be on the Cubs. He 48 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: was someone that this front office saw as a sensible 49 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: fit at the time, I believe it. So he would 50 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: have been a free agent the year after Xander Bogart's 51 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: was a free agent. 52 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: If I'm remembering my. 53 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: History right, I don't think they would have been free 54 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: agents at the same time. I think what ended up 55 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: happening is they let Xander Bogarts walk and they extended 56 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: Devers before he hit free agency the following off season. 57 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: So that would have been the off season the Cubs 58 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: signed Dansby Swanson. They would have been set up to 59 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: go after and you know, make a splash, right and 60 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Endeavors could have been that guy. I don't know if 61 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: that would have played out, if you would have hit 62 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: free agency. I don't know, because the Cubs haven't pursued 63 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: as doggedly as I as I think we expected the 64 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: biggest free agents, So maybe maybe it just would have 65 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: been another one of these big runs or half hearted 66 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: runs or non runs at a big name free agent. 67 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: But he did make a lot of sense as a 68 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: power bat, left handed bat, pure superstar bat. And like, 69 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: imagine if he does, this team isn't looking like it 70 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: is at all. Do they trade for Michael Bush, trade 71 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: for Michael or Kyle Tucker? 72 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: So I think that's. 73 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: Probably the one for sure that you're not doing that 74 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: in this situation, because I mean, there's so many different 75 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: ways you could go here, but I just think it's 76 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: fascinating what if right there? But it also ties into 77 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: Tucker because the Red Sox have a lot of money 78 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: to spend, and now here's another team that you're gonna 79 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: have to watch out for in the winter, no doubt. 80 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: And I remember that Winter Meetings of twenty twenty two. 81 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: It was that great shortstop class. You have Bogars to 82 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: San Diego and the Red Sox sort of overreacting and 83 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: kind of the way I believe you had heard it 84 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: was like that would have been a left handed bat 85 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: like that guy. You know, they would have gone after 86 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: And in January of twenty three is when he finalized 87 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: that extension with the Red Sox. And you know, I 88 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 3: don't think I don't know how much Jed and Buster 89 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: Posey have in common as lead baseball executives. And clearly 90 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 3: the Giants were sort of boxed into a corner after 91 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: with thing on so many big time free agents. 92 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: The Cubs, uh don't really have. 93 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: That problem because I just don't don't really try for 94 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: the absolute top guys. But if they did, I don't 95 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: think there'd be a whole lot of problems in terms 96 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: of loring guys to play at Wrigley Field every day. 97 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: You know, I think it makes sense for the Giants. 98 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 3: I think I have the best player in the deal, 99 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: and it I think you have to add the Red 100 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 3: Sox to that list of teams that are at least 101 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: going to kick the tires on Kyle Tucker, are going 102 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: to lurk out there for Kyle Tucker, or use their 103 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: kind of cachet to drive up the price for whatever 104 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: team eventually signs Kyle Tucker. It's hard to get a 105 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: read kind of on what the Red Sox are doing exactly, 106 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: and we'll get into that in a little bit here, 107 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: but they got to say, like Sunday night, coming home 108 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: and like seeing that on on Slack before you I 109 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: had dinner plans for for Father's Day. It was just 110 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: like like what like that was one of those you know, 111 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: Luca Luca type trade, just an out of nowhere, just 112 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: jaw dropping deal. Particularly just because of the timing. I think, 113 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: you know, I think that clearly the Red Sox were 114 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: probably ready to move on. The Giants are one of 115 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: those teams that are sort of hard to pin down 116 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: now that Posey is running things. But I think this 117 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: is something that the Cubs are gonna feel, and you know, 118 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: they go to San Francisco in August and it just 119 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: goes to something that Jed has said for a while 120 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: now that the National League is really strong right now 121 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: and that will behoove the Cubs to win their division, 122 00:07:59,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: no doubt. 123 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yes, it was one of those jaw 124 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: dropping trades I think because of it was one of 125 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: those for me. 126 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: The difference between this and Luca. 127 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Was when I saw it, I was like okay, Like 128 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: I was flabbergasted, but then it was like, Okay, I 129 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: get it. There's been some drama there with Luca. It 130 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: just it still doesn't make sense to me, but that's 131 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: a different story. Let's take a quick break in and 132 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: then we can talk a little bit about Craig Breslo 133 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: and the decision he made here. 134 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: If you're a card collector, even if you're not, and 135 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: you just want to find a new way to collect, 136 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 4: Arena Club is the spot. AJ just opened up a 137 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: slab pack. He screen recorded on his phone so you 138 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: can all see what he just experienced. 139 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: Take us through it. 140 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 6: It was simple. I just clicked on which slab pack 141 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 6: I wanted, clicked by now boom, bought it card. Little 142 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 6: pack starts spinning, you hit open, and then it goes 143 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 6: all psychedelic on you. It's a little and then the 144 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 6: card appears and I got a Robin Yell rookie car. 145 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 5: Yeah awesome. 146 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 4: And then right after that experience, I saw the little 147 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: buy back and you said, hold on to this for now. 148 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 6: Hold on his rubbing me ounts in the Hall of Fame. 149 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 6: He's not getting any more rookie cards. So I'm gonna 150 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 6: stick with it for a little bit. See if the 151 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 6: price might start just going up. 152 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 5: A little bit. 153 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: Yep, you can track that, and of course, if you 154 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: do want to do the buy back. Then you can 155 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: instantly sell it right back to Arena Club, get yourself 156 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 4: another slab pack, buy card, whatever it is. This is 157 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 4: the spot for collectors these days, and you can use 158 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 4: the code foul foul to get yourself twenty percent off 159 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: your first slab pack or card purchase at arenaclub dot 160 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 4: com slash foul. 161 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Craig Breslo is the one that pulls the trigger 162 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: on this massive deal. And there's a lot of things here, 163 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: and I guess the main one that comes to mind 164 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: is is this a result of a little bit of 165 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: an experience all of this primarily the fact that right 166 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: pil Devers was unhappy and you had to go through 167 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: this whole process, and it's just, you know, you want 168 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: to avoid these situations, and it starts with signing bregnant 169 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: when you have a star. 170 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: Some people may. 171 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: Say, like, you know, Devers just needs to suck it 172 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: up and go do what he needs to do to 173 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: help his team win. 174 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: I understand that point of view. 175 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that I believe probably was 176 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, not done as well as it could have been. 177 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying. 178 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't done, but communicating with Devers throughout the entire 179 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: process of pursuing Bregman probably needed to happen at least 180 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: in a more satisfactory fashion. I guess for Devors, because 181 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: it seemed like that it was never they were never 182 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: on the same page with that, and there was some 183 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: he was pretty miffed about it all. 184 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: And I can't imagine that it. 185 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: Was just purely for adding Bregman, like he was upset, 186 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: like like. It seems like there was that there was 187 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: more going on here and there was a frustration and 188 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: the lack of or Like I said, I don't think 189 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: it was a complete lack of communication, but clearly Defies 190 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: wasn't pleased with it. And then when he says he's 191 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: willing to play wherever he's needed in San Francisco, you 192 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: know something. There's something different going on here. 193 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 194 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone looks great in this. I think 195 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: Craig Brezlo during his time with the Cubs showed a 196 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: lot of growth in terms of being able to communicate 197 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 3: and sort of implement a plan. I think that's something 198 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: that we had heard of. Just there was some trial 199 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: and error with the Cubs pitching program that he overtook, 200 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: and I think he acknowledged, you know, certain areas where 201 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 3: they had to get better and maybe tighten up that communication. 202 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: I think you've seen, you know, his fingerprints are kind 203 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: of on this Cubs team, and in a sense in 204 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: terms of some of the pictures they've been rolling out, 205 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: some of the depth that they have. I think it's 206 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: just what always sort of surprised me in talking to 207 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: him over the years is just he did not you know, 208 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: really talk like a player or sort of like which 209 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: I think is admirable in a way, Like he didn't 210 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: come in of like, well, this is how I did 211 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: things when I was a player, this is how it 212 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: should be done. Like He's very open minded and curious 213 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: and systematic, but clearly in a place like Boston, you 214 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: have to be able to deliver certain messages. And that's 215 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 3: basically why theo Epstein is going to be in the 216 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Like he was just a master at 217 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: that of just sort of relating two players, communicating, you know, 218 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: managing up you know, towards ownership and managing down to 219 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: the clubhouse and the dugout and then being able to 220 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: sort of triangulate whenever he met with the media. Uh, 221 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: you wonder how much influence or what type of sounding 222 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: board THEO was during this whole process, because everyone remembers 223 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: in O four, I mean trading nomar Garcia Para just 224 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: an absolute stunner at a time when THEO was a 225 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: you know, relatively unknown and inexperience. I'd imagine you know 226 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: that at some point Reslo asked THEO for his two cents. 227 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't know that for uh a fact, and that 228 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: you know Alex Cora as well. I mean, he's a 229 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: highly paid, decorated, accomplished manager. Like just in reading the 230 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: coverage on The Athletic and other outlets, it did not 231 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: seem like he was, you know, dramatically effective in this either. 232 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 3: And so that's why I think, like I think everyone 233 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: every it'll come out of this looking better. I feel 234 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 3: like because it just it's been pretty bad. But you know, 235 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, Devors is really 236 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: good for a while and then really bad for a while. 237 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: And I think for the Red Sox, this comes down 238 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: to how much they reinvest in their product after really 239 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: kind of getting out from underneath this contract. And that's 240 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: another sort of Cubs parallel. I think some of the 241 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: frustrations in Boston mirror Cubs fans frustrations up until I 242 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: don't know, maybe a couple of weeks ago, when the 243 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: Cubs kind of, you know, proved that they were like 244 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: a legit team this year, because for years now it's 245 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: just been this sort of whatever the Red Sox do, 246 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: the Cubs do like two or three years later. And 247 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: so I think a lot of that frustrations if you're 248 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: a Cubs fan, frustrated about how the team has has 249 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: spent and declined and seemed somewhat less than all in 250 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: I think in Boston all those feelings are magnified. And 251 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: they've won four World Series this quarter century and it 252 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: still hasn't been enough, has not been satisfactory in New England. 253 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this could work out well for Boston in 254 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: the sense that they have a stacked farm system, They 255 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of young talent with potential stars. 256 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: Across, you know, all across that team. 257 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of young talent, but we don't know 258 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: when they'll blossom and how good they'll be. 259 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: But there's no doubt that there's there's good players there. 260 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: And now they have the financial flexibility that teams like 261 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: that grave. But you gave up a superstar for the 262 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: second time in five years about and you know you're 263 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: on your third team president in about six years. So 264 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: and and just the rise of Breslo was he was 265 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: hired by the team prior to the twenty nineteen season 266 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: and then put in a position of power prior to 267 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season. 268 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: And quickly rose. 269 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: And now he's team president of one of the biggest 270 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: This is his second season, so in less than five 271 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: years on the or five years on the jobs, he 272 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: becomes team president of what the fourth top five biggest 273 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: baseball team, right, yeah, that so you know, one of 274 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: the faces of MLB. It's a big gig and it's 275 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: a quick learning curve. 276 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: And I think you. 277 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: For whatever, I don't think Jed Hoyer is getting as 278 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: much criticism as he was a year ago. But for 279 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: whatever criticism is levied at Jed Hoyer, there's something to 280 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: be said for a stability. I don't think you should 281 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: all just lean on stability at all times, but I 282 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: think that's important at times. And I also think he's 283 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: been through it all. He's experienced all these things you mentioned, 284 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: the No Mark trade, he dealt with Manny Ramirez, and 285 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: the ups and downs there. He's been through a lot 286 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: of situations, whether it's in Boston, brief time in San Diego, 287 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: or or with the Cubs, of how to handle players 288 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: that may not be the happiest, or when the best 289 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: time is to to you know, cut the cord or 290 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, when the best time is you 291 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: know how much and when to communicate and what to 292 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: communicate to each player. It's there's there's something to be 293 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: said for that with Jed Hoyer. And they've also not 294 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: had a lot of drama recently. They've done a good 295 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: job of avoiding these types of situations. They've they've had 296 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: some really rough moments in the past five years, and 297 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: you know that there's in moments, certainly players. 298 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: That were unhappy. 299 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: I don't think Wilson Controller's was always thrilled with how 300 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: things were done here, and and at times he'd let 301 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: it be known, and you know, things aren't always perfect, 302 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: especially when you're not winning. But they've turned things around 303 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: and this is a pretty happy clubhouse right now. They've 304 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: avoided any of the drama you see in Boston or 305 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: you know, in other places. 306 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was something I was kind of thinking about today. 307 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: You know, and leaving rigs. 308 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sorry, I'm gonna be a jerk in and 309 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: you can get this break in and then let's get 310 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: right back to it. 311 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 5: It is summertime. 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The lack of maximum all out spending disappointed 342 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: fans as well as team personnel. It was pointed out 343 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: by you know, people in the Chicago media, the Wilson saga, 344 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: the deconstruction of the twenty one team, all of those 345 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: World Series legends certainly had to wear that. But at 346 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 3: this particular moment, I think you see, you know, a 347 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: Cubs team that is competent, capable, steady, you know, all 348 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: of the things that you know usually get rewarded for 349 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: over one hundred and sixty two games. Just this devors 350 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: a news cycle or storyline. I should say, It's been 351 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: one news cycle after another. It's you know, it had 352 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: been you know Bregman, Bregman Signsman shows up, you know 353 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: Devas off third base and Devors adjusting to d H. 354 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: He has he had an awful start to the season. 355 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 3: Uh if you remember then he then he rakes. Then 356 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: it's the you know, owner flies in to meet him 357 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: in Kansas City. The first basement gets hurt, like just 358 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: over and over and over, and you know, at this 359 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: particular moment in covering the Cubs, you know, it's really 360 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: hard to see that type of friction. Obviously, it's a 361 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 3: combustible sport. You know, it shows who you are just 362 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: because of how long it is and the relentless nature 363 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: of the season. But I'm sure there's a lot of 364 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: people in the Wrigley Field office tower sort of like 365 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 3: you know, exhaling in general this first half of the 366 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: season of just how things have have played out. And 367 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: you know, you see in Boston, you've seen it in Chicago, 368 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: just how in certain markets, momentum good or bad can 369 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 3: just sort of like take off in just in different directions. 370 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: And I think you've you've definitely seen that at Wrigley 371 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 3: Field this year, and then Boston will sort of see 372 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 3: how they corral it and you know whether or not, 373 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: you know, two old colleagues and friends, Craig Breslo and 374 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: Jed Hoyer could reconnect on some sort of deal. I 375 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 3: know Breslo you know, says this said it wasn't a 376 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: white flag trade, but it probably bears monitoring to see, 377 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 3: you know, maybe the Red Sox take off or maybe 378 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: this kind of the botom falls out. 379 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: We have no idea. 380 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly will be interesting. And they I appreciate 381 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: how you. 382 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: Kept saying like at this moment. 383 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: In time, you know things are well because these things 384 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: get shifted so quickly. Like I said, a year ago, 385 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: people were saying, no way should Jed Hoier be back. 386 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: They didn't even want him back for this season. Two 387 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: months ago you could be ripping the Cubs apart for 388 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: their inability to build a bullpen. There's just yeah, what 389 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: zero Homer's middle of April. Yes, yeah, So these things 390 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: shift quickly in both in either direction. 391 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: We don't know where things will stand. Uh, you know 392 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: three and a half months from now. Uh, it'd be. 393 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: Foolish, like I don't think they're going to crumble in 394 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: that sense. If this team crumbles, it won't be because 395 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: of dis array in the clubhouse, they both their manager, 396 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: and I believe the players, the key players, the most 397 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: vocal players, the highest paid players. 398 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: All of that and none of none of none of 399 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 2: them are going. 400 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: To cause an issue. Very well could have seen it 401 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: this season. And not that Saya Suzuki is the type 402 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: of player Rafael Devers is. He certainly doesn't have the 403 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: history in this league that Rafael Devers has. But he 404 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: could have been annoyed. He could have been ticked off. 405 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: And it wasn't perfect at the was it that? That 406 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: was the winter meetings? His agent Let it be known, 407 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: Joel Wolf, Let it be known that you know, if 408 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: he was going to come. 409 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 2: Here to b d H, he probably wouldn't have signed. Uh. 410 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: And that's a but it wasn't like sitting back and 411 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: complaining the entire time or being a disgruntled player in 412 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: the clubhouse. You get to spring training, you start playing games, 413 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: and you you get to work. And that's how we 414 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: treated it. And h seems like all is well. He's 415 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: having one of his best seasons in MLB, So. 416 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: It can it can be handled differently. 417 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: Who knows if that's a clubhouse dynamic, if that's a 418 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: front office dynamic, or if that's a sayas. 419 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 2: A zoo key thing. I couldn't. I couldn't pinpoint that 420 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: right now, because it could all Like I said, it 421 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: could all shift. 422 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: I just think that this is a fascinating trade that 423 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: will continue to have ripples that impact the Cubs. I 424 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: think that you don't want for Cubs fans, they just 425 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: don't want to suddenly see Raphael Devers in the playoffs 426 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: in a huge moment that that would that would sting. 427 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see if Asloan and Hoyer 428 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: can get together for a trade, though they do have 429 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: some you know, I don't know what type of pitching emerges, 430 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: but we'll see. 431 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: I think it could be fascinating what they have to offer. 432 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know that the Cubs liked Walker Buehler. They 433 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 3: just felt his market was going to go to place 434 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: that they could not realistically play in, and that proved 435 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 3: to be the case. And I was also thinking too, 436 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: you know this, there's certainly a salary dumb component to 437 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: this deal. But they did get back, you know, some 438 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: major league caliber talent and like functional pieces to their roster. 439 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 3: And I mean it wasn't Breslo someone who sort of 440 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: advocated for the Hayden was an Esky Scott E. Frost 441 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: deal for the Cubs, or at least was like in 442 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: the loop on that, like that's you know, something to 443 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 3: where maybe the Red Sox aren't you know, in total 444 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: cell mode, but maybe there are deals line up just 445 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: because of the history. I'm kind of just spitballing here, 446 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: but I think we've seen, you know, the trademarket used 447 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: to be so sort of binary and last minute, and 448 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 3: we saw what the Cubs did last year and getting parades, 449 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: getting Nate Pearson that I don't know, we probably we 450 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: talked about the trade deadline so much that we have 451 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: to also kind of have to allow for the fact 452 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: that different things just can pop up that you know, 453 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: maybe we hadn't truly seen before or aren't really thinking 454 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: of right now. And there's still a lot of time 455 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 3: to go for the market to kind of reshape. 456 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 457 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you don't know what direction a team like Boston 458 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: will go. And they could go like the Cubs did 459 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: last year where they bought and sold. Tampa Bay does 460 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: that almost every year, and and Breslo certainly that type of. 461 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: Uh, he wouldn't be afraid to try and do both 462 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: things and think both. 463 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: You know, a move like the Cubs made last year 464 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: to buy, but it was also with the future in mind. 465 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: All those moves, those by now moves that they made 466 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: were with twenty twenty five in mind. All right, Patrick, 467 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: we will be back at it next week. The Cubs 468 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: have three this weekend against Seattle, then a steamy trip 469 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: to Saint Louis. I'm looking forward to ninety five degrees 470 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: and humid in that press box, my favorite place to be. 471 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: So well, I'm excited to see the Cubs play the Cardinals. 472 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna be miserable weatherwise, but it's gonna be I 473 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be fun. I think it's been a 474 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: while since both teams were in it. And you know, 475 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinals aren't playing their best right now, but maybe 476 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: they get they get a little happy and healthy against 477 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: the White Sox, and maybe we'll see where they are 478 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: in the stayings and how the Cubs are feeling after 479 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: this weekend. 480 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: But it should be fun next week. 481 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, We'll be back at it next week. 482 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening everyone. This is Northside Territory 483 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. 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