WEBVTT - SYSK Distraction Playlist: How Rogue Waves Work

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you stuff you should know from house Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joshua Clark. There's Charles Bryant, There's Jerome Rowland. All of

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<v Speaker 1>us full first names only for this episode. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I love calling Jerry Jerome. I don't know when that started,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's one of my favorite nicknames. Jero Mina, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Jairs called her Jairs a lot too, and just Jiff. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What I typically do for nicknames is take the last

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<v Speaker 1>name and half it and add an s if it's workable,

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<v Speaker 1>like Kristen Congers, Congs or Stricks. For Strickland, I just

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<v Speaker 1>call him strick. Yeah. Strick is good too, but rolls

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<v Speaker 1>Rowls doesn't really work. Chairs is good, and that's called

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<v Speaker 1>the nickname show. Yeah. Man, When I was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>um oh, I can't remember what episode it was. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is almost not worth mentioning anyway. We're being very silly.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that was currency. It was a very silly episode,

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<v Speaker 1>like we just were not going to take it seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't matter how much anybody wanted us to. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's because we had a tank of laughing gas here.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh that was that I got you, so, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you. Have you ever been

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<v Speaker 1>to see once on the Maximum Cruise. That's the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I've ever been out to see like legite man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a weird sensation, huh. Like it is different than

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<v Speaker 1>I especially when you can see, you know, how deep

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<v Speaker 1>it is, like on the TVs or whatever, they'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how deep you're you are at any time, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just think like, oh my god, there's like three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand feet of water beneath me and nothing around me.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a little creepy, it is, But it's a

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<v Speaker 1>neat sensation too, agreed. Um, well, I take it from

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you didn't mention it, because I would

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<v Speaker 1>think that you have mentioned it unsolicitedly. You didn't encounter

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<v Speaker 1>a rogue wave, No, I would have mentioned that. I

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<v Speaker 1>would think that it was very calm seas of course, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even get sea sick. Oh yeah, I have to.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell everybody this. So you may find

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<v Speaker 1>these things called C bands? Did you use those? I

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<v Speaker 1>took one, but I didn't need it. We wore them

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<v Speaker 1>almost all the time, and I have to say, and

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<v Speaker 1>I when I didn't have it on I could tell like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel so hot. Put it on, Like five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes later, I was totally normal. It was amazing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any seasickness. That was the occasional like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the boat would move a little and be like, how

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<v Speaker 1>many drinks have I had? But then I would remember, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in a hotel, I'm in a floating hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus I had a ton of drinks. Yeah, exactly. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>No rogue waves though, no road waves for us either. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're rare. I don't know about that. They're pretty rare.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if you compare it to the normal number

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<v Speaker 1>of waves. Yeah, they're rare, that's what you have to

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<v Speaker 1>compare it to, right, But they're a lot less rare

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<v Speaker 1>than than scientists thought they were even just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of decades ago. Yeah, that's true. So, um, when we

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<v Speaker 1>say rogue waves, depending on where you live in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>you might say, what is a rogue wave? All I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of is a freak wave, Or if you

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<v Speaker 1>live in another part of the world, you might have

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<v Speaker 1>heard them called killer waves. Or if you're a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the band rogue Wave me, you might just think

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<v Speaker 1>it's music you could that's pleasing to your ear right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what we're talking about this time. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to give a shout out to the Roadway

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<v Speaker 1>they happened to listen. I love those guys. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a great documentary on Actually their drummer almost died from

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<v Speaker 1>a bad kidney and PBS to this really good documentary

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<v Speaker 1>on Um you know how a like a guy in

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<v Speaker 1>a small indie band gets a new kidney and affords

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<v Speaker 1>a new kidney. It was really great. It's called My

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<v Speaker 1>Ache and Kidney, And you know, I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 1>it was all now so out a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're great. My left kidney Zach Rogue is the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the lead guy that explains the band's name. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was his right kidney man, although

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<v Speaker 1>it might be wrong. Oh so with Rogue waves, not

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<v Speaker 1>the band, the actual wave. Um there it's I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>just to define it very briefly, a road wave is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge, colossal wave that is, in most definitions, twice

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<v Speaker 1>the size of the next tallest wave in given area.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like basically described as a wall of water, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you're out in the open ocean like you, you're

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<v Speaker 1>normally encountering swells, like the waves are rounded, so boat

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<v Speaker 1>can just kind of float up and down on them,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they are huge. Yeah. Well yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta know what you're doing, you know, in those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ways. You gotta drive into it, the steer into

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<v Speaker 1>it the right way and all that stuff. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>if your ship's captain, you know what you're doing better. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the rogue wave, you're in trouble because it is again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a wall of water, so it's much steeper,

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<v Speaker 1>much flatter, and when it encounters a boat, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go under the boat. It goes over the boat, it

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<v Speaker 1>breaks on top of it and contin some serious damage.

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<v Speaker 1>Because these things are enormous. Yeah, And the key to

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<v Speaker 1>being a rogue wave is right there in the name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's rogue. It is, uh, it is even if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad storm. It is not like the other waves

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<v Speaker 1>you're encountering, and they come out of seemingly come out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. That which is why they've never been able

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<v Speaker 1>to photograph or to chart them from beginning to end,

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<v Speaker 1>because they you can't predict them. It's not like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a road wave coming. They just happen, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you're like, oh crap, right, let me

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<v Speaker 1>get this boat steered directly, and I hope it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>break my ship in half, right, And and like you

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<v Speaker 1>qualified it that nobody has a photograph of it forming

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<v Speaker 1>or a video of it forming, Like there are a

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<v Speaker 1>few photos here there, And I think there's some documentary

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<v Speaker 1>evidence from like, um, uh one of those Discovery shows. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was one on Deadliest Catch, but I think they've

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<v Speaker 1>never scientifically recorded like from beginning to end right exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>so no one knows where where they come from, like

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<v Speaker 1>you say. And there's some pretty cool theories, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to kind of differentiate them because

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying at this point, well, dummies, um, underwater

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<v Speaker 1>earthquakes cause rogue waves. Bam, it's done. That's right. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what about glacial calving? You drop a huge piece of

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<v Speaker 1>glacier into the water, creates a giant wave, rogue wave?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? What about coastal landslides? Okay, what's the problem here? Well, those,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, thank you for playing along in our little

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<v Speaker 1>silly game. Uh, those all can cause huge waves. And

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<v Speaker 1>some people might say, well the rogue but Um, they're

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<v Speaker 1>really not know they're rogan that there. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge wave that's much bigger than all the other waves

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<v Speaker 1>around it. They're not rogue because we know where they

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<v Speaker 1>came from exactly, we know who their parents are. Right

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<v Speaker 1>with a rogue wave, Um, again, it just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>comes out of nowhere. Like you said, it can be

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<v Speaker 1>even in a storm. They're much bigger than the other

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<v Speaker 1>huge waves. But they can also just be an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>wave in totally calm seas, which makes them extremely mysterious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it depends on who you ask. There's no strict

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<v Speaker 1>definition of how much larger it has to be. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen everything from thirty three to three times as big

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<v Speaker 1>as the next highest waves, So there isn't, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a rank and file definition of how big it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be. But um, they've chartered some charted some big ones. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In February of two thousand, this is what I found

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<v Speaker 1>is the largest ever recorded wave by science. It was

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<v Speaker 1>off the coast of Scotland, recorded at um. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a British research vessel and that was using scientific instrumentation.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are tons of anecdotal stories. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a seaman then you are. You probably have

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<v Speaker 1>one of your own or heard a million of them. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sailors are renowned for their stories, but ruge

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<v Speaker 1>waves really kind of like they they're the big bang stories.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, it's kind of um. You know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people said, oh, there's such thing as navy's

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<v Speaker 1>strength gin, so are you sure you know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? But every once in a while, the ship

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<v Speaker 1>would come limping back into port and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>radar in Tenna would be snapped off even though it

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<v Speaker 1>was like ninety ft above water, and they would say

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<v Speaker 1>it was a wave, and the captain would be a

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<v Speaker 1>known sober teetotaler who had no reason to lie. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>they would say, okay, maybe there is such thing as

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<v Speaker 1>rogue waves. But it wasn't until the first one was

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<v Speaker 1>recorded scientifically. That's right. Uh, and you know what, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that right after this message, so chuck, like

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<v Speaker 1>we said, um, rogue waves were considered sailors lower as

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<v Speaker 1>far as science went, until on New Year's Day, off

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of Norway, I believe there was an oil

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<v Speaker 1>platform called the drop Ner platform, and it just happened

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<v Speaker 1>to be recording waves that day, and it was recording

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<v Speaker 1>waves that were about sixteen to twenty three ft high

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<v Speaker 1>about five to seven ms, which I mean, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty respectable, fear surfer, you probably want to get it

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<v Speaker 1>out on that, you know. But then all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden one passed by, and just one that was sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six ft tall, and it was out of nowhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing else that came after it, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing before it. And they figured out that they

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<v Speaker 1>had just recorded the first rogue wave ever captured by science.

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<v Speaker 1>It is pretty crazy, but this is kind of um

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<v Speaker 1>coming after things like we said, like anecdotal evidence, like

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<v Speaker 1>there was one from the Qiwi two. I believe the captain, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what year it was, but the captain described,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, this rogue wave comes out, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said it was it looked as though the ship

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<v Speaker 1>was heading straight for the White White Cliffs of Dover,

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<v Speaker 1>which has to be kind of scary. Yeah, I imagine. So. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The Queen Elizabeth one as well, the RMS Queen Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>more specifically was in World War Two, the Gray Ghost

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<v Speaker 1>was converted to a to a military ship to carry

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<v Speaker 1>troops basically and could carry up to sixteen thousand men um,

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<v Speaker 1>which is staggering at thirty knots, which is very handy.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, a rogue wave struck that ship near Greenland,

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<v Speaker 1>Ino and supposedly shattered windows ninety feet above the waterline.

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<v Speaker 1>But she survived because I saw cat Power play on

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<v Speaker 1>that ship. That was the ship, huh, yeah, there was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been docked in Long Beach since the sixties. And

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<v Speaker 1>UM I went to the Alt Tomorrow Parties festival there

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<v Speaker 1>by the water and it was mainly like the big stage,

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<v Speaker 1>but they had a second stage set up on the

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<v Speaker 1>Queen Elizabeth, which is really neat and um I walked

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<v Speaker 1>in and saw cap Power played for like twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>before I went back out to the main stage. You know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the neat venue motor Head is has the cruise going

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<v Speaker 1>on really coming soon, I think this month in September. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be pretty awesome. That would be awesome. U.

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<v Speaker 1>The QI though is, um you can stay it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel now, yeah, so you can stay there and

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<v Speaker 1>eat there and see cat Power there. That's also haunted,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. Well her performance was haunting, so so there

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<v Speaker 1>was a there there's all of these sailors coming back

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<v Speaker 1>saying this way was crazy, and everybody saying, no, you're

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<v Speaker 1>the one who's crazy. But then after that capture UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're saying, okay, there is such thing as rogue waves.

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<v Speaker 1>And then for some reason the nineties were like a

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<v Speaker 1>huge boom for capturing rogue waves, improving that there was

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<v Speaker 1>not only did they exist, there was a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>of them than they used to think. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>were trying more, just like recording the more. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they said, okay, we've we understand that there is such

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<v Speaker 1>thing as rogue waves, but we have no idea how

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<v Speaker 1>they formed. And so they started really kind of looking

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<v Speaker 1>into what causes a rogue wave. Yeah, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have listened to our surfing episode, UM, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good, that's all right. But we got into the

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<v Speaker 1>physics of a wave. Uh, and the highlights of that

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<v Speaker 1>are this. Uh. If you're looking at a wave, the crest,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, is is the highest portion. The trough

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<v Speaker 1>is the lowest portion. It's the dip in the between

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<v Speaker 1>the waves. You have the waves height, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>distance between the trough and the crest. The distance between

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<v Speaker 1>the crest themselves is the length of the wave, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the wave period or wave speed is the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time between one crest and the next. And then

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<v Speaker 1>what's the last one there? Wave energy. Yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>kinetic and potential energy carried by the wave. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is sourced from someone named land I see in

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<v Speaker 1>the No, it's not me. So so you've got what

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<v Speaker 1>you've just described as a wave. Like, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>all of this information, you can mathematically describe any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wave. And it's not just um ocean waves too.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this applies to optics, it applies to microwaves, it

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<v Speaker 1>applies to all like anything that takes the form of

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<v Speaker 1>a wave. Apparently even the stock market behaves as a wave.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of this stuff applies to It applies

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<v Speaker 1>to you and your break dancing. That's the worm in there.

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<v Speaker 1>A wave too, Yeah, there's a wave, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>the worm, that's my signature move. Or if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>sports stadium and you and you're one of those people

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<v Speaker 1>that participates in the wave doing the wave. Yeah, actually yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that this stuff would apply as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but under normal circumstances with just a normal wave or something,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're out on the ocean. There are hundreds or

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of waves all around you at any given point

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<v Speaker 1>in sure um and they're brought about by the movement

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<v Speaker 1>of wind across water. And if there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>unobstructed water, which is called fetch, that's apparently the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of ocean that's unobstructed that the wind can blow across.

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<v Speaker 1>And the wind is blowing strongly and it's keeping up

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<v Speaker 1>its breath, then you're gonna have some waves form, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what forms a wave. Yeah, and there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's other things that can impact it. Wind is the

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<v Speaker 1>major thing, but you know, the depth of the water

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, tides and currents, uh, if there's an

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<v Speaker 1>island or something in the way, that's all going to

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<v Speaker 1>affect it. But that big open fetches where you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get your big, big waves, right, And that's a just

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<v Speaker 1>a normal wave. What they think, what I should say

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<v Speaker 1>one of the main theories for what causes a rogue wave,

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<v Speaker 1>because just these normal circumstances don't account for a rogue wave. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You can point to any normal wave and be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's wind over this fetch and boom, there's your

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<v Speaker 1>there's your seven ft ocean wave right with a roade wave.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't necessarily apply. So they think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>proposed theories is that road waves form when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a current going one way and good sized wave going

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<v Speaker 1>the other way, say from a storm. The current pushes

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<v Speaker 1>up the wave and basically transfers when they run into

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<v Speaker 1>each other, it transfers some energy so that the wave

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<v Speaker 1>just gets freakishly large for a minute, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you've got your rogue wave. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>like if you have a really bad storm and in

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty foot wave and it hits something like the

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<v Speaker 1>Gulf Stream, the Gulf Stream might pick it up and

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm gonna make you larger. Yeah, because I'm the

0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Gulf Stream, I'm gonna make you a stop. But they

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<v Speaker 1>have definitely found more evidence of road waves in some

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<v Speaker 1>of these currents, like the Gulf Stream on the east

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<v Speaker 1>coast of the US or the one of the two

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<v Speaker 1>that's a current on the southward east coast of Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>They project with maths that you could get a wave

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<v Speaker 1>of as big as a hundred ninetet um But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but they definitely have chartered um charted a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more waves along those streams and uh and currents.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually, if if it is true, if it does

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<v Speaker 1>pan out that currents, strong currents with waves running opposite

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<v Speaker 1>to them causes rogue waves, they're saying, well, then the

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<v Speaker 1>Gulf stream would account for why the Bermuda Triangle has

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<v Speaker 1>so many das disappearance disappearances. I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that, and I don't think we did. We did

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<v Speaker 1>one on the Bermuda Triangle that I'm sure we said,

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<v Speaker 1>like like they were just a wave that swallowed him,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if we may have said rogue waves.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't stick out to me as a thing until

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<v Speaker 1>I ran across this article though. Plus that was like

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<v Speaker 1>eighty years ago. It was a hundred years ago. There's

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<v Speaker 1>another explanation to um and this is basically the foundation

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<v Speaker 1>of a mathematical incipal called the Peregrine solaton like this one.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Peregrine Solatan is named after a mathematician named Peregrine,

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<v Speaker 1>and he in the eighties predicted rogue waves like he.

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<v Speaker 1>He mathematically proved that they were possible and showed how

0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:22.600
<v Speaker 1>they would form. Yes he Um, I can't remember his

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<v Speaker 1>first name. Was so British, so before that it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like stories, yes, and then this guy comes along

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<v Speaker 1>and proves that that a road wave can occur, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's also even more awesome. He's he it's not just again,

0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not just limited to ocean waves. It's he's saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have this in optics, which has been proven

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<v Speaker 1>in the lab. You can have it on the ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been proven in the lab simulation. And basically

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing with the Peregrine Solatan is that you

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<v Speaker 1>have a normal wave and if you add just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of noise to these predictable um formations of

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<v Speaker 1>a wave, you can have a freakishly large steep wave

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<v Speaker 1>that comes and goes fairly quickly. And that's a Peregrine

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<v Speaker 1>solitan And they they've since shown that these things can't exist. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but he predicted it in like the eighties, like a

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<v Speaker 1>good ten years before a rogue wave was ever recorded scientifically. Uh,

0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Professor Peregrine came up with it. They named the Falcon

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<v Speaker 1>after him to probably right. Uh, Well, there's also the

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<v Speaker 1>wave reinforcement. Well, this is their related is part of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So basically waves getting together and becoming one large wave. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that noise that you add into the normal process

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, the wave reinforcement that noise would come

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<v Speaker 1>from other waves got you. So the idea is, if

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you have a ten foot wave passing over

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty ft wave, that's going to be a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>ft wave. Yeah, that's so neat. Or it can go

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<v Speaker 1>in the other direction, and I guess it just has

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<v Speaker 1>depend depends on how they meet each other. You can

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<v Speaker 1>also subtract it. Yeah, so like a trough, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>between the crest than the lowest point of the wave.

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<v Speaker 1>Right If if the trough is like ut and a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty foot wave runs into that, it drops down and

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<v Speaker 1>just becomes a five foot wave. Yeah. But even the

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<v Speaker 1>basic addition and subtraction, which makes it really exciting to

0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.639
<v Speaker 1>me because I understand that kind of thing, not me.

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<v Speaker 1>Addition and subtraction very basic if I have a calculator.

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<v Speaker 1>But but they're they're saying like, if you have say

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<v Speaker 1>five waves or ten waves, that five ft high, and

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<v Speaker 1>the five ft high is the normal average in the area.

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<v Speaker 1>But they all just happened to get together at this

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<v Speaker 1>right point, they're going to turn into a fifty ft wave,

0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.880
<v Speaker 1>a single fifty ft wave, and all of a sudden

0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you have a rogue wave that just kind of comes

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere. Or if you're in a bad storm, um,

0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.280
<v Speaker 1>just a couple of large waves can form something pretty

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<v Speaker 1>intimidating very fast. So we'll talk about how common these

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<v Speaker 1>things might be coming up after the Alright, so, uh,

0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.960
<v Speaker 1>they used to think they weren't so common. And like

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<v Speaker 1>we said earlier, just the lore of of the sailor

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<v Speaker 1>Navy strength gin exactly what is navy string? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>just like a higher proof Oh my goodness, is it good?

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.280
<v Speaker 1>It's too much to jinny, It's no, it just it

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<v Speaker 1>destroys you. It's not good for you. I've never thought

0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.719
<v Speaker 1>the high high proof alcohols like to me. Adding the

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 1>extra just takes away from the flavor a little bit

0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:42.280
<v Speaker 1>for me. You know, like that crazy rum that's like

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.919
<v Speaker 1>navy strength throw them. Yeah, I guess so it is.

0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like firewater. Yeah, it's navy strength through them and

0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Navy strength strength gin. It used to be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the British Sailors rations. There's there's only one reason to

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<v Speaker 1>drink that stuff. But I mean it went away for

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<v Speaker 1>a reason and then they brought it back and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just crazy stuff crazy. They brought it back for

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:05.280
<v Speaker 1>college students. I mean there's I can't remember who makes it.

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Leopolds might make a navy strength gin. Yeah,

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's rough and I love Leopolds Jim, but there's

0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>any navy strength gin I think would just be too

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>much for me. Yeah, you get at older and you're

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:18.880
<v Speaker 1>not impressed by that stuff, you know, like when you're

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 1>in college though, that's when you're like, this is five

0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.120
<v Speaker 1>thousand proof. We're going to put it in some kool aid,

0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and none of us are going to remember tonight. Nobody

0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.400
<v Speaker 1>better be putting Leopold's gin in kool aid. I will

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.240
<v Speaker 1>find you look to your nearest college campus because it's

0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:38.120
<v Speaker 1>probably happening. Uh So, Anyway, like we said, they used

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<v Speaker 1>to think they were pretty rare. But um in two

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand four, the European Space Agency started collecting data from

0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:50.160
<v Speaker 1>satellites and they basically want to see, like how often

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<v Speaker 1>do these occur? Uh I've seen some different estimates, from

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 1>three and ten thousand in the ocean to three and

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.919
<v Speaker 1>one thousand near coastal inlets and river mouths. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think what they found with their max wave project

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<v Speaker 1>was ten waves eight two ft are higher. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>from the s AS data, right, And that was over

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a period of three weeks. But the thing is is

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the previous weather data collection predicted that you get one

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<v Speaker 1>every like fifty years, and all of a sudden, they

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.880
<v Speaker 1>saw ten in three weeks. So they're like, Okay, these

0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:29.479
<v Speaker 1>things are way more common than we we thought. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, they started to think, well, maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>accounts for a lot of disappearances. Yeah. One thing they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try and do with another program called wave Atlas

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>is do surveys over a longer period of time, which

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<v Speaker 1>um makes a lot of sense, of course, because that

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 1>could have been a really rough three weeks. Yes, again

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:48.719
<v Speaker 1>it could have. It's like I was looking into shipping

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:52.560
<v Speaker 1>containers because the rogue wave caused to the worst shipping

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:56.639
<v Speaker 1>container losses in recent history. Uh huh? Or rogue waves did?

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<v Speaker 1>I should say it wasn't just one, um, And I

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<v Speaker 1>should say it's not necessarily just one. Apparently mathematically, it's

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 1>also predicted that rogue waves tend to occur in threes

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, and I couldn't find out why. UM.

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>But they're They're like, if you look at the wreck

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Edmund Fitzgerald. The account of that um from

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the captain of the Arthur Anderson, which is the ship

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:24.640
<v Speaker 1>that was going along with Lake uh Herea. I think

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>when it wasn't Superior Um. They were out in a

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<v Speaker 1>storm in November and the Arthur Anderson was hit by

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>two thirty five foot waves, which is huge for the

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Great Lakes, and they lost sight of the Edmund Fitzgerald

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.159
<v Speaker 1>and the next thing they know, it's on the bottom

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 1>of the Lake Superior broken into and they were like, well,

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>clearly the rogue wave took it down. But there were

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 1>two of them that night, and apparently there are plenty

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>of accounts of not just one, but more than one

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>rogue wave coming out of the Blue Well. And we

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 1>got a great song out of it, Gordon Lightfoot, the

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald. It's so odd that I

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>guess that was just the time, but it seems weird

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that you get a big radio hit about a hip

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>wreck that was when the AM stations dominated. Yeah, he's

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Canadian too, so that might explain a lot. I read

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a good article today on the lost art of the

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Fade out and songs. Oh yeah, it's pretty cool. Slight

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:27.959
<v Speaker 1>did a good article on it, and how you know,

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the biggest hits of the of the sixties and seventies

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and into the eighties even had those great fade outs

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 1>you just you don't hear anymore. No. Well, one of

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why it's because it's so awkward to try

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 1>to do that live. Like do you remember when Davy

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Jones guested on The Brady Bunch, Marcia was trying to

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>get him to play the prom um He does the

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>rendition of girl and then it fades out at the

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:54.959
<v Speaker 1>end while he's singing and he's like kind of singing

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>like more softly. Well, that's because he's lived sinking to

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the recorded version, right, but I mean live, they would

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<v Speaker 1>end them differently. Yeah, but he was supposedly in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio and it's like fading as he's recording. It was

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 1>just awkward to see and you could tell he felt uncomfortable.

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:13.439
<v Speaker 1>It's very awkward. Uh So, I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>last things we should cover is the differentiation between a

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>rogue wave and a tsunami. We've done a podcast on

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>tsunamis and the main differences is where it comes from

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<v Speaker 1>and where it happens. Uh. Tsunami's aren't typically a ninety

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<v Speaker 1>foot wall of water. A lot of times it's a

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<v Speaker 1>five foot wall of water that just has such force

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and speed coming ashore that it does all kinds of damage. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on when where you see it. Because the rather

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<v Speaker 1>than a wave like a normal wave, UM, where the

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<v Speaker 1>energy is carried on top of the water because the

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>wind whipped it up there, the tsunami is generated underwater,

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<v Speaker 1>so the energy carries beneath the water. So when it

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>hits that coast, all a sudden, it's pushed upward and

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 1>you have a huge wall of water. But out in

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, you're like, look at how fast that three

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>ft wave is traveling. Yeah, exactly, that's a tsunami. Plus again,

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>we know what caused the tsunami, so it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>rogue wave, and it's again not a huge towering wave

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the water until it hits the coastline.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Uh. And if your ship, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they can build you better and stronger to encounter harsher waves,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're never gonna start building ships to withstand rogue

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>waves because they're you know, they don't encounter them that often,

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and there's really nothing you can do if you come

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>across a ninety ft wave, I mean the Empire State

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<v Speaker 1>Building from the bottom to the you know kind of

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>where the square part ends. It is a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eleven feet. Can you imagine seeing a wave as tall

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<v Speaker 1>as the Empire State Building. You can't build a ship

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<v Speaker 1>that can withstand that. So basically, your your ballast is

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<v Speaker 1>your stability, and they can build you as secure as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's really not much you can do top steer

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>it as best you can and cross your fingers and pray.

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>But also, you know, a greater understanding of how rogue

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>waves come about, could you know, lead to improve safety

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>less loss of life. Yeah. Maybe prediction I think is

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>is the next wave if you will, like that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that's gonna be able to help is if

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<v Speaker 1>you even a five minute heads up like this thing

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<v Speaker 1>might be forming somewhere nearby, or sail around this area

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>because that's a rogue wave city. Yeah, and no Opelio

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>crab is worth it. You know. I saw this UM

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>article they somebody did a study about shipping containers and

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>UM the effect they have when they go overboard and

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>apparently they provide nice little ecosystems when they hit the

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>hit the bottom of the ocean, like they went and

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>checked and they're like, okay, that's pretty great. Everything's just fine.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>They like the shipping containers down there, the artificial reefs

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>right inadvertent ones. So that's it for rogue waves. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to learn more about it, you can type

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<v Speaker 1>those two words into the search part how stuff works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. And since I said search part's time for

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the listener mail. I'm gonna call this help for my future.

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 1>We've gotten a few of these where people ask for

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like what should I do with my life?

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna read another one. First time email or

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<v Speaker 1>longtime listener guys, I want to say your show has

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<v Speaker 1>been with me through some very hard times. Your humor, friendship,

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>and connection with your fans got me through the passing

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>of my grandfather and a very hard breakup. So thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Uh. What I was hoping you could help

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>me out with was this one more thing I feel

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>lost with the path I am on in life. I'm

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>a recent college grad from Western Washington. You with the

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>bachelor's in history and a minor and web design. I'm

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>now out in the working world, and I find it

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>hard to decide what I want to do with my life.

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I've listened to past episodes where you answer fans who

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>are written in, so I thought i'd give it a shot.

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Let it be clear, I am not a struggling college graduate.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I've landed a steady, secure desk job, but after the

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>first couple of months it's lost as luster and I

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>feel myself becoming the stereotypical corporate drone. I'm impressed by

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the position you, too, have found yourself in. I want

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to know what advice you have for a young professional

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and scholar in this world. I need a career that

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>has the potential to be fulfilling. More fulfilling than creating

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>spreadsheets and TPS reports. That is from Kyle. TPS reports

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>really exist, just like I think if people just use

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that phrase because they catch all from office space, but

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:31.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe it might be a real thing. That's Kyle. Yeah, Kyle, um.

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought about this a little bit. My advice to

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you is to not quit your job, but to do

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>your soul searching on someone else's dime for a little while.

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>If you've got a good job, you're way ahead of

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people. So don't go quit in

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>your job and saying, you know, I want to go

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>open up a glamping operation in Colorado. Oh, it's the

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>new thing with like high quality camping. Oh it's like

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the new butcher. Yes, sort of like a you know,

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you'll have a nice canvas tent in the woods with

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>an actual bed and a rug and a lamp and

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a refrigerator and you charge people to go stay there.

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>It sounds very nice. Yeah, it's not camping, it's lamping.

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>But um, yeah, Kyle, So I would not suggest you,

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>like go quit your job and run off and join

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the circus. How about that. That's easier, Kyle. I never

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>have a heads up on stuff like this, so I

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>never have any decent advice. But I definitely would side

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>with Chuck on that one. Like if you if you

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>got stability right now, that doesn't mean you're trapped. You're

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.719
<v Speaker 1>never trapped. Like, figure out what you want to do.

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Figure out what you can make decent money at that

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>will make you happy. If it's not the job you're in,

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>then there's your answer. Go figure out what that is,

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>but do it in the context of your current job

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>as well. It's almost across the board a bad idea

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to just quit your job and then figure out what

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do, Like that's not smart. Yeah, and

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>these emails are sometimes stuff because Kyle, I can't decide

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>what you like and what you joy. If you had

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<v Speaker 1>written in and said, boy, I really love drawing cartoons

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>or roller skating and long walks on the beach, right,

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 1>but I am a corporate drone, then I would say, hey,

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe try and be a cartoonist. So you need to

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>think about, sir, what you enjoy in life, of what

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>inspires you. And there's probably a job scenario that fits

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that description. Yeah, and don't be discouraged about um having

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a history degree and not using it like that. It's

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>becoming more and more prevalent to have a degree that

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't necessarily use. It just made you a more

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<v Speaker 1>well rounded and interesting person and you learn the skills

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that you need to survive after college in college, no

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>matter what your degree was. And you can always go

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to house stuff works dot com and look at the

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>career s page. We actually have a career stage that

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<v Speaker 1>is updated. And if they say there's jobs, there's jobs. Boom.

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I kind of feel like Kyle was asking a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit for a job. Maybe well, thanks a lot, Kyle.

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