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Speaker 1: This he is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broadus, Taylor Stern, and

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. We

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Speaker 1: have an exciting show today. Maybe exciting is the wrong word,

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Speaker 1: maybe spooky is better. On this Halloween Tuesday here at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Of course, last night the big

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Speaker 1: news not dropping until late in the evening. Ezekiel Elliott

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Speaker 1: for the second time this month than third time this season.

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Speaker 1: His sixth game NFL suspension is currently in effect. More

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Speaker 1: to come from that in the next twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: from when that decision was made. But let's get going

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Speaker 1: here today. How's everyone doing very spooky today? Happy Halloween. Yes, pumpkin,

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Speaker 1: we have as our decor here about that their treats inside,

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Speaker 1: just your presence. I didn't I didn't look, Mickey, you

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Speaker 1: didn't take the hat off. Didn't take the hat off,

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Speaker 1: just kind of I just thought it was kind of

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Speaker 1: a decorative thing. Well, let's find out. Okay, here we go,

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Speaker 1: Tommy dun underwhere Yes, Candy saw micking his track suit

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Speaker 1: coming down the hall, I could have. I thought for

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Speaker 1: a second you were Marinelli. I thought you were dressing

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Speaker 1: up as Rod Marrionellie today. You guys told me to

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Speaker 1: dress up. You had the hat that looked like he'd

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Speaker 1: been worn since twenty fourteen, so I dressed down. You

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Speaker 1: look great. That was a brand new hat from the

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Speaker 1: golf tournament. What are you talking about? Beautiful? Beautiful, beautiful.

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Speaker 1: What's not beautiful here, of course, is that a Zigie

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Speaker 1: Elliott will not be on the Dallas Cowboys for the

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Speaker 1: next week, six weeks as it stands now. Now explain

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Speaker 1: to me, lawyer Robot. Let you start here what he

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Speaker 1: can do in the next twenty four hours from the

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Speaker 1: decision being made. He can file an appeal with the

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Speaker 1: second circuit. He can, Yes, there is another courts. There's

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Speaker 1: another circuit. They're all over the place. Brought us and

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Speaker 1: Dave and I went down the list on Wikipedia last

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Speaker 1: night while we were waiting for this ruling. I guess

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Speaker 1: on the first circuit where it was he can accept

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Speaker 1: the suspension or is there anything left in the fifth

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Speaker 1: circuit that can be done? Can they have that hearing?

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Speaker 1: They can ask for a refile since the two week

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Speaker 1: on bonk ability ran out, So they can they can

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Speaker 1: go back there if they wanted to. Oh gosh, somehow

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Speaker 1: they can just get to the Supreme Court. But I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest, I mean, you don't think it's they don't

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Speaker 1: want to deal with this? Do they every avenue at

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Speaker 1: this point? That's why this was such a critical ruling, Tay,

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Speaker 1: because I don't see, based on what everybody's reporting, much

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Speaker 1: it's something he's gonna have to face because the ruling

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Speaker 1: made by Judge Catherine last night, Failia. Hell yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: f A I L L A was. Failure was so

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Speaker 1: firmly in the league's favor. It was such a she

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Speaker 1: left no doubt point by point by point. As a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, I saw once somebody tweet, you know,

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Speaker 1: as a blowout win for the NFL last night. So

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Speaker 1: for any future appeal that's got, that's gotta be taken

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Speaker 1: into account. Now. I get that, Rob, I get what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. Now, I get what the NFL is arguing

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Speaker 1: is that Ezekiellett needs to face this for the domestic

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Speaker 1: violence charges. That we know what they're arguing they charged

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Speaker 1: him with. What they're arguing is, we don't want to

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Speaker 1: have to go to court to face a lawsuit, and

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Speaker 1: we have the right because of what you agreed to

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Speaker 1: an Article active bargaining agreement in Article forty six, that

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Speaker 1: the commissioner has been empowered to make all these decisions.

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Speaker 1: And this judge decided that she was not messing with

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting in the way of that. That's the

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Speaker 1: best way I can put it in common English. Never

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Speaker 1: want to talk about marketable players. Ezekiel Elliott, No doubt

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel and Dak Prescott are the two most marketable players

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Speaker 1: those two are leading in marketability. Okay, if Ezekiellett misses

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Speaker 1: that's why that did this. That does go into Tay's point.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking the irreparable harm point to an all pro

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Speaker 1: they can care less. I'm just saying, hang on that. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that feeds into the union's argument all along

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Speaker 1: is that this is irreparable harm to a player. Let

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Speaker 1: that future economic injuries such as lost profits are compensable

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Speaker 1: through monetary awards and any individual honors Elliot might attain.

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Speaker 1: Absent suspension depend on countless variables such as the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: overall offensive performance, his opponent's defensive performance, and Elliott's health

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Speaker 1: that together rendered this alleged harm far to spec you

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Speaker 1: to justify injunctive release. As for damages to Elliott's reputations,

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Speaker 1: cases in this circuit require a more concrete economic impact

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Speaker 1: So what she's basically saying in her mind, there's no

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Speaker 1: just brought up is speculative. No. Absolutely, she may not

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Speaker 1: because I think it's it's the heart of this matter.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think the NFL did what it did

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Speaker 1: to the person you just pointed out to make a

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Speaker 1: everybody's against domestic violence. But at some point, at some point,

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Speaker 1: you have to have some sort of equity equality in

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Speaker 1: Even this judge said reasonable. It shows that very reasonable

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Speaker 1: But look, Brady's the precedent. And that's when we kept

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Speaker 1: because of Article forty six. Exactly, that's why they won.

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Speaker 1: Association is not going to win any of these say,

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Speaker 1: I don't think she stood on her own two feet.

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Speaker 1: She stood on a previous ruling. She stood on a precedent,

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Speaker 1: the rule in favor of Zeke that he the NFL's

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Speaker 1: I wonder where the we're outside of here. And I

427
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Speaker 1: think we're being objective about this even if it was

428
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Speaker 1: a different player, not player on this team. But what

429
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: do you think the general public's opinion is of this?

430
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: That they do? I honestly, Yeah, they're tired of hearing

431
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: and that that guy just needs to take his suspension

432
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: and go. Who cares so he deserves it? Yeah, I

433
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: don't know if if you deserve if you took the

434
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm a Eagle fan in yeah, I don't. I don't

435
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: want to have to play him. I mean, just general public,

436
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: do they think that they probably believe the NFL is

437
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: overstepping its bounds or good he's getting punished. I think

438
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: I think I think it's good he's getting punished because

439
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: the league. But I'm just and we're talking about people,

440
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: we're not talking about just Yeah, and people that probably

441
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: don't even know the fact. People people that, Yeah, if

442
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: that's the case, you shouldn't say that guy should get

443
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: punished if you don't know the facts of the case.

444
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: But I will say this, I think the general public

445
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: will think that, you know what, something happened there, something happened.

446
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: But see, Brian, that's where I respectfully disagree with you

447
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: on he should. He needs to try to clear his

448
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: name and do everything he can because that what you

449
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: just said, that's smoke. No, no, that's coming from the

450
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: NFL in the court of public opinion. Right, he's probably guilty.

451
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: He's got to live with that the rest of his life. Yeah,

452
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: but you know what, we can't change the way people

453
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: think about us. That we really can't. And I know

454
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Speaker 1: that's a serious, serious crime to be a domestic violence person.

455
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: But can't look at the league. He could he could

456
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: say he could use Mickey's argument like I've talked about though, Okay,

457
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: prove I am, Prove I'm a domestic violence abuser. Prove it. Yeah,

458
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the NFL. We just talked about Ray Rice,

459
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: we just talked about Josh Brown. You know, prove it.

460
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: They botched every single thing that every single domestic violence

461
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: case they've botched. So if you're that's how you create doubt. Oh,

462
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: the commissioners charging me with domestic violence? Really? Yeah, what

463
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: have they done? Have they? Have they done one of

464
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: these cases? Right? Have they? Have they had one of

465
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: these investigations? Been right? I'm just saying the general public

466
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: probably thinks something's wrong, right, something. You know, they're probably

467
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: thinking Peaple. Did you see his name in the news? Sure, yeah, sure,

468
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: we're all I'll tell you where we're sick of the NFL.

469
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: And and and I'm not going to take credit for this.

470
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: Somebody else smarter than me said this. It's six days

471
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: of fires during the week, and then all of a sudden,

472
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: the fire hydrant comes out and we have games, and

473
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: it kind of takes us away from the six days

474
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: of fire. You know, That's what this league's become. Instead

475
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: of being excited about Monday night and Thursday nights and

476
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: Sunday and Sunday nights and Sundays, we're thinking about that,

477
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: we're spending thirty minutes talking about a court case. Yeah,

478
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: you know that as we look back on it now,

479
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: no doubt he wasn't gonna win. He wasn't gonna win.

480
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: He had to try, I get it, but he wasn't

481
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: gonna win because of Article forty six. I've ever heard

482
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: people say the thing like, oh, these athletes make so

483
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: much money. Oh, these athletes do that. They only do

484
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: it for three years, But what the life expectancy of it.

485
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: They should make as much money as they can. Absolutely

486
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: make as much as you can. What I'm saying is

487
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: that I think, you know, Mickey brought up a good point.

488
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: The public perception out of here is like, these guys

489
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: are brats, these guys are entitled. I truly believe this

490
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: because I've heard people say this. I've I've witnessed this.

491
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: You know, people who are outside the sports industry, in

492
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: other industries, or maybe they're even casual sports fans. When

493
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: you look at these NFL players, and probably the NFL athletes,

494
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: well athletes in general, but NFL players seem to be

495
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: the ones that are just most commonly in the spotlight

496
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: just because there's so many of them. There's a lot

497
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: more players though, too, Yeah, you can have more problems

498
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: that way exactly. And so what I'm saying is that fifteen,

499
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty five, and fifty three. You know, we're

500
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: seeing the same thing in the entertainment industry. Rate there

501
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: you go that the people down who And I'm not

502
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: saying you shouldn't take people down if there's wrongdoing that

503
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: is that is there in present. Absolutely, people need to

504
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 1: be held accountable for decisions in behavior. But what I'm

505
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: saying is that, you know, it is appealing to discuss

506
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: being at them. It is appealing to discuss Ezekiel Elliott,

507
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: appealing to discuss Odell Beckham Junior's behavior. It's so exciting

508
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: to discuss Tom Brady and the deflate gate. You know,

509
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: these things are more exciting and easier for people to digest.

510
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: It's drama, it's controversy. Yeah, yeah, that's our society there today.

511
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though. The commissioner, though, is about

512
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: to be in a fight with the owner on this

513
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: football team and his contract being up. Yeah. Now, now

514
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be about okay, what are we Let's

515
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: let's think about you know, let's think about what we're

516
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: doing here, and that the gentleman that owns this team,

517
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: it's a very very powerful guy. And Roger Goodell has

518
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: pushed his chips in the middle of the table to

519
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: try and appease sponsors. I believe you know, hey, we're

520
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: trying to do things with domestic violence. We're trying and yeah, rightfully,

521
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: so you should. But he's trying to appease those people.

522
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: But he's about to be in a fight for his

523
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: job and you know what, and this owner will not

524
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: back down. I don't think I don't think he cares.

525
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't what he says, worried about somebody's gonna leak

526
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: it to the media. Nope, the way it happened to

527
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: McNair and Houston, who was trying to use an analogy

528
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: and the whole thing, he missed it up. He missed

529
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: it up, he got misconstrued. And people these days probably

530
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: have never heard that saying before the asylum, which has

531
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: been the right word. Old guys like us should probably

532
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: stay away from those analogies of thirty years ago, forty

533
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: years ago that were common practice, because we've become an

534
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: overly sensitive society and uh, it's it's leading, it's and

535
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: it's not a good thing, by the way, But anyway,

536
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: Jerry doesn't care leak what he says. Yeah, he probably

537
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: prefers you let him know what he told The rest

538
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: of the league. So, yeah, I think you're right, he's not.

539
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has fought a lot of battles in his day,

540
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: and you know he's he's playing the back nine. You know,

541
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep fighting and keep fighting and do what

542
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: he has to do and you know, run against the NFL. Yeah,

543
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 1: he sees, he sees where this is at. I mean,

544
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: he's in the Hall of Fame, but he does not

545
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: appreciate what this commissioner has done to him. Yeah. Well,

546
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: let's go to the phone line. Let's hear from you guys.

547
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: Doug in Springfield is on the phone. What is your question?

548
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning. I know that they keep referring

549
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: to the Brady as a precedent setting case with Zeke here,

550
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: and he was less than honest. He destroyed cell phones,

551
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: he had people live for him. Where Zeke's been forthright

552
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: as far as we can tell in the public, he's

553
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: been willing to be a witness and so on and

554
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: so forth. And so that's where I see some disparity.

555
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: Brady was less than honest and he cheated. Where the game?

556
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: Where Zeke is? He said? She said, And you know

557
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: I hate to hear him. Keep referring to the Brady case. Well, well,

558
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: what the Brady reference is is basically a legal procedure

559
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: to protect whatever law there is about collective bargaining, right

560
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: to work, yeah, and arbitration cases among employees and employers.

561
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: So that has set the presidents that we are not

562
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: going to touch right, arbitration. Right, it's it's in the

563
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: collective bargaining agreement. You agree to it. And she even said,

564
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, don't come run into courts if you feel

565
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: it's unjust. Yeah, go negotiate. That's with with your league.

566
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: That's what this country was built on. It was built

567
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: on the ability to say poor working conditions. People stand up,

568
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: management say wait a minute, what do you mean. You know,

569
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: then you come to an agreement. That's that's what. There's

570
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: no judge worth it's his or her assault that will

571
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: ever attack that because because of what it's what our

572
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: country is based on. I mean, the right to negotiate

573
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: and the right to yeah. Because back in the day, yeah,

574
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: the employees they didn't have that yet. They were the kings, right,

575
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: But but you had other judges step in and say,

576
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: wait a second, I get all that. But the arbitration

577
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: process and the way they went a about determining that

578
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: Harold Henderson and the who was not interviewed and all

579
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. Was the accuser interviewed not interviewed?

580
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: Fundamental fairness did come up from other judges. Can't there

581
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: be a balance between the two, evidently not if you're gotten,

582
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: if you're gonna take the easy way out. She took

583
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: the easy way out that way. Yep. You know, hey,

584
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: you've got a dictator. You've got to listen to him

585
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: whatever he decides. You know, he doesn't care. The players

586
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: Association stood before her yesterday arguing a case of something

587
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: that they actually agreed with with the owners. That's that

588
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: she had to have a problem with that. But you're

589
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: arguing before me. But you negotiated this agreement. I just

590
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: don't know why you can't differentiate and say, well, okay, fine,

591
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: we it's collectively bargained, but there are clearly flaws in

592
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: the process. Or do you have to wait until there's

593
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: a new CBA. That's what it's gonna have to be.

594
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be. Yeah, this is to leave

595
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: bargain again. This is gonna be. Even the guy who's

596
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: the president, Eric Winston, the president of the Players Association.

597
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: He came out and said, this is not going to

598
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: be my problem. Yeah, this could be somebody else's problem.

599
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: Gonna hand off, Yeah, because we're until four years away,

600
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: because this is somebody else is going to have to

601
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: deal with this. So yeah, and you're gonna have a

602
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: whole new group of owners to probably step up and

603
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: have to do things like that, you know, negotiate this thing.

604
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, it's a Yeah, no judge worth

605
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: of salt or her salt is gonna ever go against

606
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: something that's collectively agreed upon. And I'll guarantee you there

607
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: are six owners out there that aren't going to argue

608
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: with this decision. Yeah, they're not going to worry about

609
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: their own good. Ye are the league's good? They're gonna

610
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: worry about their own good And it should be the

611
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: other way around. Keep our house from burning. That was

612
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: that was the foundation of tech Shram's ownership with the Cowboys.

613
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: What was good for the league is good for the Cowboys.

614
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: He didn't worry about first what was good for the Cowboys.

615
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: But I'll guarantee you these Nick's next six owners, they're

616
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: not going to put their hand up in the air

617
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: and go. You know I disagree you with that. Yeah, yeah,

618
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: but someday, someday, because they got a glasshouse, this is

619
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: going to affect them. The glasshouse. Your social media will

620
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: make things totally different the next time. You're our entire society,

621
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: our entire society. Now the Cowboys are working out a

622
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: defensive end today. Of course, I always forget how to

623
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: pronounce oe o diggi zua, oh diggi oza. Yeah, the

624
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: defensive end who was released by the Giants in August

625
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: is working out here as free agent. You know, you're

626
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: not dealing with any trade deadline, even though that is

627
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: four pm today, and I know you guys on Twitter

628
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: have some different four pm Eastern Eastern. Yeah, yeah, four

629
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: pm Eastern, three pm Central time, thinks mc so hey.

630
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: I know you guys on Twitter have some exciting ideas

631
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: for trade deadline, but don't know if that's really going

632
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: to happen. Well, you know, they worked him out and

633
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: he was, you know, he was you know, we talked

634
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: about him a bunch on the Draft show from UCLA.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how they judged that workout. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: because the last if he hadn't been working, yeah since August. Right. See,

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Speaker 1: I think, Tay, this is one that they were kicking

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Speaker 1: I know Mickey didn't have. I wonder if they think

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Speaker 1: He's kind of big. Yeah, Well, I think it's I

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Speaker 1: who is more indispensable to the Cowboys offense? Zeke Dak

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Speaker 1: and I left you a cop out answer, Mickey, don't

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Speaker 1: Lee preventsive from having to score a lot of point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dan Bailey, that's not a bad one though, Mickey, you're

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Speaker 1: Did you vote? I voted? I voted. Would you vote

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Speaker 1: for Dak the one M? I voted yesterday for Dak? Okay,

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Speaker 1: when you asked, I voted for Zeke? Did you yeah?

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Speaker 1: All right? Thirty six percent say Dak, twenty nine percent

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Speaker 1: say Zeke even, and thirty five percent took the easy one.

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Speaker 1: So they didn't care be comfortable seeing a game with

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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush and Azek Elliot going against the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs this weekend. Tell you what, Cooper Rush could take

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Speaker 1: the snap and hand it to that guy. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: But is that guy gonna run? Yeah? Hey, what happens

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Speaker 1: on a you know? Oh? No, Cooper Rush? Pash fine.

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith has just been passing chunking it over to

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill all day. I'd rather see Darren McFadden than

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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush at this point. Oh okay, what about Alfred Morris?

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Speaker 1: Do what? No, Rod Smith? Alfred Morris? You like that

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Speaker 1: Carlos hide to Marco Murray? No, I said that backwards.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather see Darren McFadden than Cooper Rush. Yeah that's what? Yeah, okay, yay,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather see Dak handed off to Darren McFadden. If

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Speaker 1: they throw the ball forty times this game, are they

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Speaker 1: gonna lose? I don't. I don't think they're gonna have to.

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Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not blaming. I'm not blaming. I'm

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Speaker 1: not blaming Dak for I'm just saying though, that we

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Speaker 1: know the recipe for him is twenty of twenty six two.

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Speaker 1: Hunt the score last night, I forgot three at one time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't end that way. It's like twenty nine twenty.

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Speaker 1: I've watched the tape, but I didn't it was where

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Speaker 1: twenty nine nineteen? Was it nineteen? Because they went for two?

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Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, so what's your point? My point is

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Speaker 1: as bad as Simeon was. They basically scored twenty points

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Speaker 1: and he was by the way. Yeah, no, no, that

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Speaker 1: interception heat threw. I don't think the problem and I

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Speaker 1: haven't got the Kansasy's defense, but I don't think their

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Speaker 1: problems are if they had problems are on offense. I

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Speaker 1: think the problems are on their defense. Their run defense

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Speaker 1: is near the bottom of the league. They are. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they give up a ton of first downs. I think

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Speaker 1: they're last in the league first downs allowed. And I

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Speaker 1: understand their offense is good. Yeah, they kicked five field goals,

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Speaker 1: No it was it was it was seventeen. They kicked

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Speaker 1: the kick. I thought five. I didn't the second half.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to think of what all how that

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Speaker 1: all played off? Did? They only score two touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: one of them was an interception return or fumble return

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Speaker 1: for a touchdown're's not always going to score forty you know, No, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just Stroncos defense, as we've seen, can be pretty Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just we'll get into Kandaca tomorrow. But I just

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Speaker 1: I don't think the problems that they I think I

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Speaker 1: could say to me, if I think if running the

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Speaker 1: football that's gonna be the recipe for this this team.

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Speaker 1: I think that Cooper Rush could play in a game

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Speaker 1: where if you could run the football and play the

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Speaker 1: waggle the boot and throw like they do, I think

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Speaker 1: you could play that way. That's fair. This team lost

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Speaker 1: a lot of games in twenty fifteen with backup quarterbacks. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me came in. They trafted they drafted Ezekiel Ella

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Speaker 1: to play with Tony Romo. Right, that tells you something

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Speaker 1: right there? What do you so? What do you think

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Speaker 1: just arguing the other point, guys, because I know you

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Speaker 1: know what, what do you think Kansas City's defense will do? No,

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Speaker 1: Zeke McFadden, Morris Smith, how does how does Kansas City play?

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Speaker 1: I gotta watch Kansas City today. We got a model.

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna worry about stopping the run or are

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Speaker 1: they gonna worry about stopping Dak. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: wry about stopping Dak. Yeah. I think they're gonna They're

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Speaker 1: gonna try and keep him in the pocket and make

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Speaker 1: him make throws. I think that's what Denver did, and

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Speaker 1: think and think that they can control these running backs

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Speaker 1: with four or five six man seven ye in front? Yea, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not overload the box. Justin Houston having quite the day,

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Speaker 1: do you Yeah? If I don't know, you know, as

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Speaker 1: we're seeing right now, a lot can change. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: But see here's the deal. What they're thinking is keep

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Speaker 1: him in the pocket making I'll absorb whatever Morris or

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Speaker 1: McFadden give me because they ain't Zeke right, they ain't

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Speaker 1: going seventy two yards for a touchdown, right, They're not

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Speaker 1: getting forward. I don't want Dak throwing over the top

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Speaker 1: in hitting Dez or Williams or Butler first seventy yard

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Speaker 1: touchdown pass? How many times have we seen him throw

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Speaker 1: over the top? Well, you if they play it that,

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Speaker 1: depending on how they play it, sure, I'll be interested

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Speaker 1: to see. I think the ball, I think because I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna say, Dak beat us. Yeah, by keeping

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Speaker 1: them in the pocket, we're not going to worry about

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Speaker 1: the running game. Denver's plan. Watch Denver's plan here, and

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Speaker 1: I think that'll be indicative of what comes up in

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Speaker 1: six games. Everybody's going to go to school on it, right,

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Speaker 1: So I was Denver's planning different than the other teams

823
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Speaker 1: that saw that and then weren't able to do it.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean print, Yeah, better personnel. Does Kansas

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Speaker 1: City have the personnel to do they could cover? I

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Speaker 1: think they give up first downs, I said, But I

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Speaker 1: mean I think they can cover Arcas Peters Preeters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't think. Yeah, I don't think Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City isn't as fierce as Kansas City once was

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit down look at their defense. But their offense,

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Speaker 1: it's a combination of college skys or college scheme and

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Speaker 1: pro scheme together, and the quarterback doesn't make a lot

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Speaker 1: of mistakes. You got to make him hold the ball.

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing watching the Raiders play him. They

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Speaker 1: make him hold the ball, make him have to double

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Speaker 1: clutch some stuff, make him have to move a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That's where that's where this thing is gonna You know,

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Speaker 1: can you can you affect him that way? You know,

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Speaker 1: this is the best offensive a line the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: gonna face so far that this is this will be

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Speaker 1: the best one. If if Kareem Hunt runs for one

843
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: hundred and forty or one hundred and fifty yards, cowboys

844
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: ain't gonna win. Yeah, that that's gonna be their recipe.

845
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: Present that if he's running, then Alex Smith Smith doesn't

846
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: have the ball exactly. Last night was the first time

847
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: all year he had less than a hundred yards from scrimmage.

848
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: He had said an NFL rec hunts to start a career. YEA, yeah,

849
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: with a streak of games. They move him all over

850
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: the place. They put him out. Why he got twenty

851
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: one against the Steelers, I thought he got twenty one. See,

852
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: he wasn't motivated because he knew wasn't coming up from Yeah,

853
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: I have been combined. Yeah, yeah, it was a a

854
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: Lia stat last night. Oh no, I believe that he's

855
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: been dominant, but dominant, you gotta find a way to

856
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: stop him. He's not worried about Zeke catching him in,

857
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, Alex Smith doesn't turn the ball over none.

858
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: So it's it's gonna be a challenge, no doubt about it.

859
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: It shows you, This whole Zeke thing shows you just

860
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: how it's a reminder of how difficult it is to

861
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: win games in this league. When you win thirteen games

862
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: in a season, how hard that is to get to

863
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: that point. D'e field advantaged out of the plubs because

864
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: now you see what the situation they're in right now. Yeah,

865
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: and when you play teams, you know, last night I

866
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: saw a ton of tweets that were like, this isn't

867
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: the same Broncos team that faced the Cowboys in Week two. No,

868
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: it's not. And the Packers if you faced him this

869
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: weekend wouldn't be the same Packers you saw in October eighth. Yeah,

870
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean these teams are changing consistently. You saw the

871
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: Cardinals again, they have Adrian Peterson. Now you know there's

872
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: just so many different things that have been in a

873
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: season in week by week. The teams that are playing

874
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys now it's not going to see. Did Jerry

875
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: give us any clues you listen to Jerry? Yeah, any

876
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 1: clues on who's the lead running back? He said Darren

877
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: McFadden will be a big role. Yeah, just said big role.

878
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: Really said all three would be involved. Yeah, what do

879
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: you think? Where are we going? I think Mickey's and

880
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: now that Mickey's theory from week two is in play accurate?

881
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: Yea like Mickey's theories in play and find out. Yeah,

882
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: we'll find out tomorrow and they will they line them up? Yeah? Well,

883
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, Alfred Morris has shown us

884
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: flashes obviously in the Rams game with the seventy yard

885
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: to run. Yeah. But let me ask you guys a question.

886
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: And if we go around the room, from what you've

887
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: seen so far from the backs, who would you play

888
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: as your primary back? I mean, and no, we and

889
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: then you haven't seen anything from McFadden's that's really not fair,

890
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: So he's probably okay. If you had to play, if

891
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: you had to play Morris or Smith, who would you play? Starter? Smith?

892
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: What was the news that Smith I'm just not sure

893
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: I want to give him twenty some carries. See, this

894
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: is that, this is what's going to happen, because you

895
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: have to really think about this as a six game

896
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: season if you're going to play that way, because he's

897
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: not going to finish out the seat. It's not like

898
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: you've lost a sequel Elliott two injury. Right. You need

899
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: to see the thing about Alfred Morris, he's made it

900
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: through complete seasons. The thing about Darren McFadden, he's made

901
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: it through a complete season. See, but you never have

902
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: hand you note Rod Smith has never been a guy

903
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: that you've handed the faults. It's the unknown there. But

904
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: why why why does it have to be one guy?

905
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: Why can't it be all three? Why can't youse? This

906
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: team has proven that they lean on one guy. Yeah,

907
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: they didn't the running back by committee, Rob that you

908
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: were suggesting, I get it. How was what they tried

909
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: to do in the twenty fifteen seasons. How would you

910
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: do it? You could make McFadden your third down back

911
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: and split the first and second down work betwe the

912
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: other two. I think for the offensive line's sake, I

913
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: think that's why they ride one guy. I mean, Nick

914
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: Fadden didn't get rolling in twenty fifteen to taste point

915
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: until he became the guy and he kind of got

916
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: in a rhythm. I just the rod Smith think to me,

917
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: he's the X factor because I don't other than preseason. Yeah,

918
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't have a regular season track record,

919
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: but he sure looks like a good running back. So

920
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying so even behind a even hind behind the

921
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: backup offensive line, he looked like he was he was

922
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: he was physical, finishing, tough. You're gonna this is your

923
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: Could you use rod Smith for six games? Could you

924
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: just make it a six game season with him being

925
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: your primary back? From what you've seen, block, catch, run,

926
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: I would, I would. I would not make that decision

927
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: until I saw him get about five or ten carries

928
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: in a game, because I want to see how he

929
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: reacts to a workload. Now we saw it in what

930
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: preseason off five carries, five carries but for game was over?

931
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah but right, but yeah, and backup lineman in their plane.

932
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: You're talking about like what Zeke did the other day.

933
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: You're getting the ball thirty times and you're gonna have

934
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: to salt away the game at the end and hold

935
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: on to it right and be that guy. Are you

936
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: over exposing him? I don't, I don't know, that's what

937
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, that's why I hate to not answer

938
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: your question. Guy, just we don't. We haven't seen it.

939
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: I think you have to tippy toe in and see

940
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: what you got. I don't think there's any time to

941
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: be tippy too and any No, I mean six ten carries, yeah,

942
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: and then if those go, well, fifteen carries, you know what? Okay,

943
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean you know what I was I was touting

944
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: him all preseasons for I'm in for forty five. Put

945
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: Rod in the game. Let's put yeah, forty five carries

946
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: for number forty five? Why not? Why not Rod Smith

947
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: running back from Ohio State? If oh I got lazy

948
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: me and Brian, Yeah, if he if here's the ball five,

949
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna win that game, you're gonna win. Yeah, probably, yeah, absolutely,

950
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: you got. I'm ready to feed Rob Smith. Guys, you

951
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: guys fed his brother and you didn't know what was

952
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: going to go on there. I know, I know you

953
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: can say, but sometimes you have to throw these guys

954
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: in the deep end. I mean, look at Dak Prescott. Yeah, okay,

955
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, I can rob up the same. On top

956
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: of all this, why did they keep McFadden? Oh no,

957
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm just trying to I'm just trying to

958
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: do good radio right now. It is totally happening right there.

959
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, you're you're not wrong. I mean on

960
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: the sideline, they kept him inactive for seven games? Well,

961
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: why would you keep him? Walk up to him every

962
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: pred just have a little side conversation with him. Yeah,

963
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: stay ready where he wasn't Mike? I don't know, But

964
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: isn't it odd though that? Okay, he's he is my

965
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: lead back if something happens to zeek. But in the meantime,

966
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: just sit down for seven games. Sometimes you can say,

967
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: let's you know my backups, can you know? Unless maybe

968
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: he plays a quarter. You know, I'm gonna take that chance.

969
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: But I'm not handing him the ball twenty five times

970
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: the other guy fresh, you'll be like a wild horse

971
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: in the corral, just trying to bust out. Okay, now

972
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: you can open up the gate. Yeah, I think I

973
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: think it is very fair. Darren McFadden still being here

974
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: is why I think that the team waited a couple

975
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: more weeks when even when Tony Romo was healthy to

976
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: see if Dak Prescott was the real deal? Thank you're

977
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: ready for that? Yeah, all of a sudden, psycho, would

978
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,479
Speaker 1: it be if the trade happens to DeMarco Murray's here's

979
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: at Dallas? How Tony Romo is in the broadcast booth?

980
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: Jason went and still playing for the Cowboys because he

981
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: will forever? And that is what's gonna happen on Sunday.

982
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: I'll tell you we need to be able to run

983
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: the football. I know, coach, I know it's right. So

984
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: I think the locker room will be very interesting today

985
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: at four pm? Yeah, what's what's DeMarco Murray worth? I'll

986
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: tell you what though? No, I mean, would be worth

987
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: its compensation? Would you? I'll look over for it? Would you? No? No,

988
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean what would you if you had to do

989
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: a trade? Just what are you give? Would you get

990
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: worried about his country? Would you give up a six round? Pick?

991
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: You said fourth? Did I say fourth? Ye? No, Yeah,

992
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: I'd give up a six? Would you give a six? Yeah?

993
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: Would you run him for six games? You're run him

994
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: for six games? Is what you're doing? Right? Yeah? Why

995
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 1: would you you have? All? You say? Over and over again.

996
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: You have all this faith in these running backs. You

997
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: keep McFadden on ice for no the team team, and

998
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: then you know, now we got to go trade for

999
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: somebody because we got to do an hour show daily row. No, no,

1000
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: it's out there on Twitter, right. I might ask me

1001
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 1: what it was worth. I didn't say. I mean six well,

1002
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: Rob fair point, okay, DeMarco Murray, Darren McFadden. Now you're

1003
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: a new strong duo. You got Rod Smith to come

1004
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: in there. Buy Morris, Oh, buy Morris. Oh. I'm just

1005
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: saying there somebody, somebody would have to go at some

1006
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: points when you think he's a player, he's a player

1007
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: that likes me. I mean, we can keep him around.

1008
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: That's high all the time as it gives Vine steals

1009
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: out of the candy jar. I'm kind of like, hey, Alfred,

1010
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 1: how's it going. We should have him on the Russia?

1011
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: Is that too? And you never give him the props?

1012
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: I never Ellen Moore was nice to you, No, he

1013
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: really would. There's nobody's ever nice to me. Tell you

1014
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: no better than that. Nick Hayden is the only one.

1015
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: Oh he hated me? Oh my gosh, really Nick Haye? Yes, well, yes,

1016
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: they all hate me. I'm just saying, you know, anytime

1017
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: that you think you know what's going to happen here,

1018
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: you really don't. Okay, we're running out of time. I

1019
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: was going to ask this, why is everybody so up

1020
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: an arm that a GIA went to the Eagles because

1021
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: now their run game is solid get richer? Well, they

1022
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: have said that, right, they have problems and you know,

1023
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: actually the running back and I need to watch them

1024
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: a little more. We're going to do it here, but

1025
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: but they have they've had some problems with their pass protection,

1026
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: with their backs. So a GI can be a more

1027
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: every down player for them, run block, catch guy. So

1028
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: they were looking for somebody that could it doesn't get

1029
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz killed. Does he have an expiring contract too?

1030
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: He has a year contract with them, And they thought,

1031
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: what I heard is that there? What does that mean

1032
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: you're left this year or next year? Just this year?

1033
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: Actually I thought year left. I think it's only this

1034
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 1: year because this is his third year, so he should

1035
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: be restricted to Yeah, this is it. And then they

1036
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: were saying, you know, when he had those two hundred

1037
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: yard games last year, it was there were some different

1038
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: things that they think they can kind of light a

1039
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: fire underneathing. So what about this year he hadn't really

1040
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: done much. Well, he was complaining about the amount of

1041
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: carries he was getting from Adam Gaze one hundred and

1042
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: thirty eight over are they seven or eight games or

1043
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: seven because they didn't have the first week. Oh he's

1044
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: getting twenty carries a game. He's yeah, back is he? Yeah?

1045
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 1: Or sixty five is good and one? That's why people

1046
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: were up in arm. He had it. He had a condition.

1047
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: The knee thing was a condition coming out of Boise.

1048
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: That was what a lot of teams turned away from

1049
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen when he only played nine games. Yeah, yeah,

1050
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: he hadn't he had a knee problem. So Mickey's just

1051
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: bring him on. He's from here and he is from here, Yes,

1052
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: bring him on. So what a giant blackwell or I

1053
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: know he's I know, he's a guy funded. Yeah, he

1054
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: moved from London to Texas and here from Frisco. Yeah, Frisco.

1055
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what. Yeah a Dallas day Yeah yeah, yeah,

1056
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: he's a local guy. But he had a knee. Frisco

1057
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: if the best fish and fish and chips. Yeah, when

1058
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: they went to London. That guy's not getting another London

1059
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: Games picking that London's coming out here pretty soon. The

1060
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: London for Neddy carries a game that's coming out nothing

1061
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: when he's that is it? I think it's in the

1062
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. No touchdowns either, by the way,

1063
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: Sorry guys, Well this was an interesting show here on

1064
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: Halloween Tuesday. You want to keep going, Harry. It was frightening.

1065
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: Are you going trick or treaty? Happy Birthday? Mom? Trick

1066
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: or treat happy? Yeah you tricker treaty? No, but cover

1067
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: forest dressing Apple, see you there? Yes, going to Mickey,

1068
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to put a watch back the same time.

1069
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: What a pumpkin head fi