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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. Hey, your new work Bridging two Realms. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about that. Well, yeah, Bridging two Rounds. Learn to

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Speaker 1: communicate with the loved ones on the other side. And

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Speaker 1: my publisher George back in early two thousand and sixteen,

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Speaker 1: they said, so, John, do you think you have another

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Speaker 1: book in you? And I'm you know, I already have

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Speaker 1: six or five. And I said, well, you know, George,

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Speaker 1: I getta. I have to write through inspiration. I have

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Speaker 1: to write something that moves me. So I focused on

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Speaker 1: I said, sure, So I focused on what are people

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Speaker 1: asking for? Um, there's a lot of bereavement lately going

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Speaker 1: around the world, a lot of stuff is happening, as

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Speaker 1: you know, George, So I said, let me write a

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Speaker 1: book for the bereaved people who have lost people recently

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Speaker 1: or not so recently, and show them that they can

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Speaker 1: you know, give them some techniques all the years that

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Speaker 1: I've learned, what I've learned, and basically also what the

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Speaker 1: spirit people tell me. What a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: asking now, George too, I'm noticing that they're asking more

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Speaker 1: profound questions. Years ago, people were fine with going to

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Speaker 1: an intuitive or psychic helping them, you know, with some

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Speaker 1: getting a message from their mom or dad, and they'd

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Speaker 1: be fine, and they would you know, walk away or

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Speaker 1: asking more profound questions like what is my loved one doing?

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Speaker 1: Do they know what I'm doing here? Do they still

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Speaker 1: I'm being more sensitive. I don't know, George, You've been

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Speaker 1: more and more people are becoming psychically sensitive or extremely

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Speaker 1: it seems to be growing by leaps and bounce. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know, John, if it's what's happening worldwide that

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Speaker 1: it's a natural evolution. I think it could be both.

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Speaker 1: Kind of George too because well, that's another reason why

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Speaker 1: I wrote it is the first part of the book

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Speaker 1: work was a colleague of mine, Brian Weiss. Death. Yeah, oh, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: near death experiences, shared death experience, which is something new

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Speaker 1: people are talking about. What's it like when your your

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Speaker 1: person leaves the body? What they're doing over there. That's

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Speaker 1: the second part of the book is the training, because

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Speaker 1: I think, uh is the consciousness of man changing, George

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Speaker 1: or is the spirit world getting closer? I think it's both.

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Speaker 1: a wise man, George, nor you really are. Listen to

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