1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Can't if I am six forty you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: As promised our pal from KFI News, Michael Monks is 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: here with the big news around a major crackdown. High there, 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Michael Monks, It's good to see you, Michael. Uncle Monks 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Uh comes in the studio. What did you say to me? 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 3: Well, you were talking about disaster tours and I was 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: sharing with you that I took a disaster tour, uh 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: yesterday while by watching a bunch of clips of a 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: show you used to. 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 4: The Hole in the Wall. 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mentioned you mentioned it to me yesterday and 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: I was like, I have never heard of hole in 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: the wall. And so now I'm going to spend the 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: rest of my shift, don't tell the bosses on YouTube 16 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: watching Mark Thompson host a game show and this was 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: like what eight eight eighth nine ish on Fox? This 18 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: is the network show a huge show hole in the Wall, 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't know how I missed this, 20 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: but I have to see it because can you share 21 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: with our listeners the premise? 22 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It's very much looking like a Japanese 23 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: game show when you just look at the clip and 24 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: that kind of makes it fun, like bright colors and 25 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: weird outfits and people were standing there. We had them 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: kind of up in teams, so I think family feud 27 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: kind of thing, like the firefighters versus the cops, or 28 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: like for example. And they would wear these silver outfits, 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: these silver skin tight outfits, and they'd stand there right 30 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: on the edge of a pool of water, and these 31 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: walls would come at them. They'd run at them in 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: a pretty pretty good clip, and they'd have to orient 33 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: their body to make it through the hole in the wall. 34 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: That's why it's called. 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: And these holes would have various shapes, like maybe you 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: would have to be bent in a you'd have to 37 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: contort yourself into a weird position so that you could 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 3: get through the wall and not knocked in the water. 39 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: And while I was watching this, I did not see 40 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: one contestant succeed. 41 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: That was one of my issues with the show. I 42 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: said the proditioners, we've got to make these holes figure. Yeah, 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: that's oh, thank you. Yeah. The show was. 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 5: It was. 45 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: We did twenty two episodes. We were supposed to be 46 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: up and I'll just finish this off. You're show sweet 47 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: to mention it I don't know how we got into 48 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: talking about it yesterday what we did. And so of 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: course you I. 50 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: Asked if you'd ever hosted a game show that I 51 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: know you've done a lot of stuff. 52 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 53 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: So anyway, the show was on. It was gonna be 54 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: on after American Idol. Now can you imagine it would 55 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: have been massive, and instead there was another show on 56 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: called Wipeout. Wipeout did really well, it might still be on. 57 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: It's like these people running this obstacle course again very 58 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: Japanese game show. Big stuff happening, and it was a 59 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: big husi and it was doing so well that Fox 60 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: Network said we need to rush this show on because 61 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: this show Holding the Wall is kind of like that. 62 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: So they rushed it on the air without a whole 63 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: bunch of promotion. We ran on a Sunday night, okay, 64 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: and it was Sunday during football and the East Coast 65 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: had a game that went into overtime. So now my 66 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: show Hold on the Wall is running. Everybody's watching the 67 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: football game in overtime. No one's watching my show. They 68 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: what they call join in progress, this show that nobody's 69 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: ever seen premiere. 70 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: They missed the whole set up. Yeah, and then really lost. 71 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we don't do a number, and then the 72 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 2: minds of Fox just going, yeah, just burn off the 73 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: rest of them. We don't care. All twenty two episodes 74 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: they just killed. I mean they ran them on a 75 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: Friday night or whatever it was. 76 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: If listeners are just hanging around, do look it up 77 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 3: on YouTube, but make sure you look for the right version, 78 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: because there's another version out there. It's a newer version 79 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: maybe in the UK, same kind of title, but you 80 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: want to look for Mark Thompson. Hole in the Wall 81 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: do as a favor before we get to the news 82 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: and I know you brought me in for a reason. Yeah, 83 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: but so the wall would start moving, I know, what 84 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: would you say? 85 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: So before the wall starts moving, I would say, to 86 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: whoever there is there in that silver outfit waiting on 87 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: the edge of that fool, I'd say, it's time to 88 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: face the hole. And that wall would come screaming at 89 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: the person and more times than not knocked them into 90 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: the water. It was uh yeah, it was an idea. 91 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: That was the biggest game show audience in history. We 92 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: had six hundred and fifty people in the audience lot, 93 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: in the studio audio. Yeah, and the studio. Audience was 94 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: Radford Studio. We shot the whole thing, so anyway, you're 95 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: sweet too, remember and take me through the trauma of 96 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: having a die. 97 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 6: It was. 98 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: It was a great show, but I wish it had 99 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 4: lasted longer than. 100 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 7: It aw that catchphrase deserved more. 101 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, time to face the whole It's time to face 102 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: the crackdown on the disaster tours of Pacific Palisades. 103 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: It is, indeed, And you know, when these fires were 104 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: raging back in January and I was there, and then 105 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 3: after the fires mostly stopped and you could really get 106 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: up and close to the damage, I remember thinking, people 107 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: need to see this, you know, because we're reporting on it. 108 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: The cameras are there, you're seeing aerial footage, but until 109 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: you've walked the streets of Altadena and parts of Pasadena 110 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: and the Palisades and Malibu, and you just can't really 111 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: take it all in. It is It's nothing I've ever 112 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: experienced before. And I remember thinking at that moment, people 113 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: need to see this whenever it's possible. 114 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 7: People need to see this. 115 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: But the way people have been seeing it apparently is 116 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: not sitting well with residents of the Palisades, particularly city 117 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: councilmen Tracy Park, Apparently there have been tours not just 118 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: keep in mind it's open to the public. If you 119 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: wanted to drive over there, you could. It's much easier 120 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: than it was several months ago. You can go through 121 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: and see for yourself. It's not recommended because people are 122 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: rebuilding their lives, but somebody's making money off of this. 123 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 7: So some bus. 124 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: Tours have been going through, charging people, and it's basically 125 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: a disaster tour, driving you through what used to be 126 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: a very vibrant posh neighborhood and saying, look at this dump. Now, 127 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: look at what happened here. It's getting in the way 128 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: of the reconstruction effort, it's getting in the way of 129 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: the debris removal. And so the city council just yesterday 130 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: decided they needed to restrict this and they did so immediately. 131 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 3: So as long as there is still that local emergency declaration, 132 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: something that local officials can do to allow them to 133 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 3: do things than they normally can prevent things, allow things, 134 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: these bus tours will be restricted. Councilman Park says she 135 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: wants this to be restricted more permanently, and they'll be 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: exploring that at a later date. 137 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: So they restrict the bus tours, the organized tours, the 138 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: commerce associated with these tours. But you're saying those who 139 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: just want to drive through the area caravan of people, 140 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: that probably is something there's no way to stop. 141 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 7: Well, it is a public area. 142 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 3: I mean, these are public streets, and the palisades were 143 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: mostly closed to everyone in the immediate aftermath. It was 144 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: hard even for residents who lost things to go see 145 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: how bad it was. Now they still have you know, 146 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: the police are there, but like the military's gone. You know, 147 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: the checkpoints aren't there like they were. So yes, you 148 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: can go through there and see it, and like I said, 149 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: people should see it, but there has to be a 150 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 3: respectful way to do it. Sure, and that's true for 151 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: Altadina as well. I mean, because to truly take in 152 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: the damage that was done in January, you really need 153 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: to be up close to it and you can feel 154 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: the lives that weren't necessarily taken, even though some people died, 155 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: of course, but the lives that people were living were 156 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: taken in a moment. And it is a terrible but 157 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: important reminder of just how dangerous wildfires in southern California 158 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: can be. 159 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point too, that it can be instructive, 160 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it is interesting and sort of 161 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: got tone deaf, and I'll just say it's disgusting to 162 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: think about cashing in on the horror that is the 163 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: loss of your life. 164 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: And I have to say this because you know. 165 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: Our neighborhood burned in the Getty fire twenty eighteen, and 166 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: there were a lot of LOOKI lows afterward. You know, 167 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: my home did not burned down. It burned, but I 168 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: couldn't live there anymore, but it didn't get burned down. 169 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: I always want to say that, because I did get 170 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: to salvage some stuff, but my neighbor's lost. And I 171 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: consider it that these are like the museums of our lives, 172 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: these places we live, whether it's an apartment, a condo, 173 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: or a home house, and it's all gone, and it's 174 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: devastating emotionally. And so the notion that you could, you know, 175 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: as you say, take the disaster tour of this, it 176 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: really is. 177 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: It's horrible. 178 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: But on the other hand, one does feel as though 179 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: you can learn something from Yeah, there's got to be. 180 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: A way to do a tour, perhaps that it creates 181 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: a better sense of honor. 182 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 7: Sure like we're here to memorialize what was lost. 183 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: I mean, those communities will be rebuilt, but they'll never 184 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: be what they were, just by virtue of the fact 185 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 3: that things are gone that were there. They're gone forever. 186 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: But couldn't we and even if you are throwing ten 187 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: twenty bucks in the till, couldn't that go towards something 188 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: that is beneficial to people who lost everything. 189 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: That's the only way you can really get to a 190 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: place that it's a little where there's some high ground. 191 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: I think. 192 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: Otherwise it's just crass commercialism, don't you think? 193 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 194 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: I mean it's like if there were one hundred years 195 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: from now and nobody repopulated the Palisades, it would be 196 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: a different thing. We're far enough removed from it. It's 197 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: the way that some terrible tragedy that happened in the 198 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: you know, in the old industrial area downtown, something like 199 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: the shirtwaist factory fire or something horrible thing at the time, 200 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: but now you're curious about it, and you might you 201 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: might pay somebody to guide you around and explain what 202 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 3: had happened there. 203 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 7: And that may be a for profit enterprise. But enough 204 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 7: time has passed. This just happened. 205 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: You know, people are just now getting the plans to 206 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: rebuild the houses that were. 207 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 6: Lost, and that's why folks think this is so ugly. 208 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 6: I think about Ground Zero in New York. Yeah, exactly, 209 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 6: and a lot of the same issues. You know, you 210 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 6: want a sense of reverence, but there's also a sense 211 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 6: of being compelled to experience on some level, being adjacent 212 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 6: to the emotions that might have been involved in this tragedy. 213 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 6: And as you say, it's reshaped Los Angeles forever, completely forever. Yeah. 214 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 6: Great to talk to you, Michael Monks. Thanks for the information. 215 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 6: Thank you also for the nostalgia. 216 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 7: It's time to face the whole. 217 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: Michael Munks from KOBI News. It's the co Belt Show. 218 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: Thompson Here KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the 219 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 220 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 8: You're listening to John coblt on demand from KFI AM 221 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 8: six forty. 222 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: There's breaking news out of the newsroom. Let's go to Debra. 223 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 4: What's going on. 224 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 9: So the judge has denied bail for Sean. Did he 225 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 9: come so? He has been ordered to remain behind bars 226 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 9: until he is sentenced after being found guilty of transporting 227 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 9: people for prostitution. He was found not guilty of the 228 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 9: most serious charges against him, including racketeering and sex trafficking. 229 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 9: But the judge has denied bail for Sean. 230 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: Did he come Well, it's no day at the beach. 231 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: That place is being held, you know. 232 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 9: That's what I hear. Yeah, and I think he was 233 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 9: counting on getting out today. 234 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: Well, based on the high fives and the applauding that 235 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 2: he was doing to the jury, et cetera. He was 236 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: taking the victory lap. I understand. It's got to be 237 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 2: a sense of jubilation. You pretty much dodged the most 238 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 2: intense bullet legally, but the first of all sentencing still 239 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: awaits you. Royal Oaks was saying maybe four years possibly, 240 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: but even that could be discounted by the judge. But 241 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: in all of this, lost in it all, in all 242 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: that jubilation is the fact that now he's got to 243 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: go back and await the sentencing. So fourth of July 244 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: weekend for Sean Combs will be done there in his 245 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: prison cell. Yeah, well, all right, we're watching that moment 246 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: to moment. Of course, the big news was that he 247 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: really escaped the most serious charges, but he will be 248 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: sentenced on the other charges and while he's awaiting sentencing. 249 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: Seems as though he'll be in prison. I have to 250 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: say this, he's a flight risk, particularly, you know, and 251 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: one of the criticisms early on in the entire trial 252 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: was that he was denied bail, that there was a 253 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: sense that two things were happening. A he was overcharged, 254 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: meaning you slapped on the racketeering thing. 255 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: Clearly not a good guy. 256 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: I mean a dirt bag, I would say from any 257 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: yardstick or any angle. But just from the legal standpoint, 258 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: it's pretty much now agreed that the Feds overreached with 259 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: the Rico charging and just the way in which they 260 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: overcharged him, and you only need to look at the 261 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: verdict to sort of agree with that they couldn't make 262 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: those charges stick. So the other conversation that was going 263 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 2: on around Sean Combs when they originally charged him was 264 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: why is he not being granted bail? He's not a 265 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: flight risk, he's able to wear an ankle monitor. 266 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: Whatever. 267 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: This seems as though it's again not saying is a 268 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: good guy, not saying that he shouldn't be charged with 269 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: these various charges that we've seen, from prostitution to the 270 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: man Act, transporting the prostitute across state lines, et cetera. 271 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: But he's not a threat to leave, he's not a 272 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: threat to run. So again, this is all talked about 273 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: in this same breath at the beginning of the trial. 274 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: Now to see him told, well, congratulations, you dodge the 275 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: big legal bullet, but you're still going to cool your 276 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: heels in prison while you wait. I'm sure that they'll 277 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: be more set about that. Anyway. That's the latest in 278 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: breaking news. There's some maybe you consider it surprising, Orange 279 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: County Republicans who are questioning the President about immigration enforcement 280 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: sweeps in Huntington Beach. Now, Huntington Beach is a place 281 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: where you've got a lot of maga. You'll find a 282 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: lot of Trump banners. I'm sure on the fourth of 283 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: July you'll see your share of maga. 284 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 10: Merch. 285 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: But apparently now leaders are pushing back at the president's 286 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: immigration raids. So here's a beach town, non sanctuary city. 287 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: And there has been all kinds of legal lifts associated 288 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: with immigration policy in southern California. But high immigrant populations 289 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: exist in Orange County, and now there's a conversation about 290 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: these immigration rates and their real effect on the community 291 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: and Republicans who voted for Trump and support his efforts 292 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: to deport and deport large numbers of people who've committed crimes, 293 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: they are not so sure about the sweeps that have 294 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: targeted workers and longtime residents of Orange County once again, like, 295 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: why are you going after the home depot day workers? 296 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: Why are you going after my nanny? Why are you 297 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: going after the construction business? And there are vital workers 298 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: being driven out of critical industries, taking California's affordability crisis 299 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: and making it even worse for our constituents. That was 300 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: written by assembly Members Diane Dixon and Laurie Davis from 301 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: Newport Beach and Laguna Neguel respectively. They're calling on Trump 302 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: to modernize the country's immigration process to give undocumented immigrants 303 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: with long standing local ties a path toward legal status. 304 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: This is the point you have to reshape immigrants policy, 305 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: so we hang on to those who can help shape 306 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: the community in a positive way and we can flush 307 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: all the people associated with gang activity. Any illegality. I'm 308 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: talking about illegality in the community, not the fact that 309 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: they are illegal technically because they are in the country undocumented, 310 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: but to see Orange County Republicans pushing back against Trump 311 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: shows you that the pendulum may be swinging the other way, 312 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: because what we're seeing is the elimination of people who 313 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: serve vital roles. 314 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: Within the community. 315 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: And even if you wouldn't consider the roles vital, they're 316 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: part of the texture of the community. I mean everyone 317 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: from the car wash operator to the dishwasher. I mean, 318 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: so we've always known that these people are here, but 319 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: lowering the boom on them all has even aroused the 320 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: eye of some Orange County Republicans. We'll watch this story, 321 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: but again, it is continuing to unfold. It's only been 322 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: a month since the boom really lowered here from the 323 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security and Ice here in southern California. 324 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: When we come back, the man who broke the story 325 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: of the Idaho murders and the Idaho murderer and his 326 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: this guy's really you want to talk about a cold 327 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: hearted killer, That's what we have in that Coleburger, Idaho, 328 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: and the man who broke that story about the plea 329 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: deal from News Nation joins us. 330 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: Next. 331 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: It's KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the 332 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app Thompson for cole Belt. 333 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Coebelts on demand from KFI AM 334 00:17:58,680 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 8: six forty. 335 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: This Brian Cooberger case, the killer of these Idaho college students, 336 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: four of them in their sleep. 337 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 4: It's a brutal, grizzly case. And the guy who broke. 338 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: The news of the plea deal did it on News 339 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: Nation and he joins us now, Brian Ett and Hi. 340 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 10: Brian, hey Mark, thanks for having me on. 341 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know you're the senior national correspondent over there 342 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: at News Nation. And this was a big story and 343 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: continues to be a big story, the fact that this 344 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 2: plea deal seemed to exist outside the understanding of the 345 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: families that really wanted to see your trial go down. 346 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: Give us an update. 347 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 10: Yeah, I just got out of court here about an 348 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 10: hour ago where it all was made official here in Idaho. 349 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 10: He Brian Cooberger accepted the plea deal. It was about 350 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 10: an hour long the hearing. It was pretty excruciating just 351 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 10: having to hear him. They kept saying, you know, asking 352 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 10: him questions, did you you know kill They went through 353 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 10: all the victims, did you stab them to death? You know, 354 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 10: they got really detailed in their questions, and he just 355 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 10: answered yes, yes, yes, every time and said you know, 356 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 10: and that it was premeditated and what was so kind 357 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 10: of freaking And I've been covering this since the beginning, 358 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 10: so it's kind of just a surreal moment to see 359 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 10: this all go down. But he, you know, was totally emotionless, 360 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 10: like he he had no just a blank stare on 361 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 10: his face, and when he would answer the questions, it 362 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 10: was almost like he was like answering a test question 363 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 10: or something like. It was just very, very strange, especially 364 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 10: because the families were there and they were emotional, and 365 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 10: Brian Coberger's parents were there and they looked upset, but 366 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 10: Brian Coburger didn't look upset, not even not even a 367 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 10: little bit. 368 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: We have some audio from him. Go ahead and run that, Eric, 369 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: if you would, And this is Coburger in court. 370 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 5: On November thirteenth, twenty twenty two in Leaiita County, State 371 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 5: of Idaho, kill and murder Madison Mogan a human being. Yes, 372 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 5: and did you do that wilfully and lawfully, deliberately and 373 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 5: with premeditation and mel a forethought? 374 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: Yes? 375 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 7: Did you honor. 376 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 5: About that same date in Moscow, Idaho, kill and murder 377 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 5: Kayleie Gonzalez a human being? 378 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 8: Yes? 379 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 5: And did you do that wilfully, unlawfully, deliberately and with 380 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 5: premeditation and malica forethought? 381 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: Yes? 382 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 5: And did you, on that same date in Moscow, Idaho, 383 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 5: kill and murder Xana Kernodle pardon me. 384 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: A human being? 385 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 10: Yes? 386 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 5: And did you do that wilfully, unlawfully, deliberately, with premeditation 387 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 5: and malica forethought? 388 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: Yes? 389 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 5: And then on we're about November thirteenth, twenty twenty two 390 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 5: again in Leytak County, Idaho, did you kill and murder 391 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: Ethan Chapin a human being? 392 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 4: Yes? 393 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 5: Did you do that willfully, unlawfully, deliberately, with premeditation and 394 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 5: malica forethought? 395 00:20:59,160 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 4: Yes. 396 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: You know this, as you describe it and you hear it, 397 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: it just reflects a kind of emptiness of the soul. 398 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: You know, this guy is I don't know what his 399 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 2: disorder is, but he's a soulless guy, right, Brian Enton. 400 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 10: One hundred percent? And you know I've tried to be 401 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 10: fair covering this all along, and he was pleading not 402 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 10: guilty for so long, and they were very passionate in 403 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 10: their defense of him, and that there was going to 404 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 10: be a trial and that this was almost like he 405 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 10: was staged and there could have been alternate perpetrators. And 406 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 10: I mean this has gone on and on for two 407 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 10: and a half years, and I've tried to cover it fairly. 408 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 10: But today, now that he has admitted his guilt and 409 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 10: he is in fact a murderer and he has admitted 410 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 10: to it, you know, I couldn't help us sit there 411 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 10: was sitting right behind the parents, and he was sitting 412 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 10: right in front of the parents there, you know, at 413 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 10: the table with the defense lawyers. And I guess the 414 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 10: only thing that kept talping to my mind is like, 415 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 10: this man is a monster. I mean to think these 416 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 10: were four innocent college kids, like there was. They didn't 417 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 10: do anything wrong. They just were out partying, and they 418 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 10: went back to the house and they went to bed, 419 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 10: and he broke in their house to the kitchen door 420 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 10: and and and just brutally stabbed all of them to death. 421 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 10: And so yeah, I mean you say soulless, it's there 422 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 10: was just it was just so weird to see nothing 423 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 10: on his face today. 424 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: And I like that you describe what happened, because he 425 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: did have to break into the residents. 426 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 4: He went floor to floor. 427 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: I think they were separated by you know, a floor downstairs, 428 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: upstairs in other words, but I'm wondering if we have 429 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: any insight articulated or implied as to the motive. 430 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 10: No, And I think that's what's bothering the family. I 431 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 10: don't think. 432 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: I know. 433 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 10: That's what's bothering the families right now is they wanted 434 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 10: to know why. They wanted to know why he did this, 435 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 10: Why that house, why that knight, why these kids? Where 436 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 10: the knife? You know, the murder weapon has never been found, 437 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 10: And none of those questions were answered. There were some 438 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 10: new elements that came out today. You know, the prosecution 439 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 10: gave a you know, gave a lot of insight into 440 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 10: the evidence that they had and told the judge about that. 441 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 10: I mean, it's just awful. I mean, not only did 442 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 10: he go in and do that, but he left. They've 443 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 10: got it all tracked through his cell phone and surveillance cameras. 444 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 10: He went back to his house, and then he returned 445 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 10: to the crime scene several hours later to almost go 446 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 10: back and got at it. And then he went back 447 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 10: to his apartment again and took this selfie which I've seen, 448 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 10: the selfie in the bathroom mirror with the thumbs up 449 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 10: so he's just a deranged and you know, he was 450 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 10: getting his doctorate in criminology. The thought is, you know, 451 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 10: this is almost like a dream for him. This is 452 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 10: what he had been plotting and planning for quite some time. 453 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 10: And he admitted that it was premeditated. 454 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: Didn't he go with his dad on like it was 455 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: a cross country thing? 456 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 4: After all? This happened something like. 457 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 10: That, right, Yeah, So his parents live in Pennsylvania and 458 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 10: in the Pocono and so after the murders, you know, 459 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 10: he wasn't caught for like six weeks, and he actually, 460 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 10: you know, was around the holidays and he was getting 461 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 10: his doctorate at Washington State University, and so he went 462 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 10: home for the holidays and he drove back across the 463 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 10: whole country with his dad, and they were pulled over 464 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 10: a couple times. And there's body camera video, which there's 465 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 10: still a lot of questions about that too, and just 466 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 10: some strange elements to that hole drive which we may 467 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 10: never really get answers to. But we did hear today about, 468 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 10: you know, the way they finally nailed them, as there 469 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 10: was a little bit of DNA he left behind the 470 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 10: knife sheef next to one of the victims and when 471 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 10: they figured out that they thought it was him, they 472 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 10: took the trash from his dad's house where he was 473 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 10: staying in Pennsylvania around the holidays, and it was actually 474 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 10: a Q tip that they tested, and the DNA on 475 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 10: the q tip they were able to put into a 476 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 10: database and it tested as the father of the person 477 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 10: whose DNA was on the knife sheef and that's how 478 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 10: they made the final connection. 479 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: I saw that the family of one of the victims, 480 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: twenty one year old Kaylee Gonkalas, they asked that the 481 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: deal be amended to include some additional requirements, like a 482 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: full confession for the location of the alleged murder weapon. 483 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: This this weapon that you described, That's what made me 484 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: think of it. Is this just an effort? I mean, 485 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: I understand the frustration of the families is palpable. You know, 486 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 2: they are so angry about this. Is this an effort 487 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: to sort of make him own even more of this 488 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: in some way that they feel can feel better about. 489 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 10: I think so. I think it's also just the wanting 490 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 10: to know the why and and just to know for sure. 491 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 10: I mean, you know, there's never been any indication that 492 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 10: anyone else was involved, but just talking to the Gunsalvus is. 493 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 10: You know, they wanted to ask them about that. They 494 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 10: just wanted they wanted someone to really get the full 495 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 10: story out of him, just so that they would know. 496 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 10: And we may you know, we may never know. And 497 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 10: he may he may speak at his sentencing, which is 498 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 10: at the end of the month, he may not. My senses, 499 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 10: he probably won't. And he barely spoke today. And you know, 500 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 10: the families, many of them wanted the death penalty. They 501 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 10: were sort of led along for the last two and 502 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 10: a half years being told that there was no chance 503 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 10: of a plea deal with the prosecution was going to 504 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 10: go after the death penalty no matter what. And this 505 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 10: kind of came across as a real surprise. It just 506 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 10: came about in the last three days. I mean, there 507 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 10: was no talk of a plea deal ever, and then 508 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 10: all of a sudden, here we were today at the hearing. 509 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it surprised even the family. So there 510 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: you go. Well, Brian, you've done great reporting on this. 511 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: I congratulate you, the senior national correspondent, Brian Enton, first 512 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: to break this news to the Flea deal, and you 513 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: just covered it every step of the way. 514 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us today on KOFI. 515 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 10: My friend, thanks so much for having me. 516 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: Okay, Brian Enton. 517 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I can say that just really always 518 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: angers man. I'll just say it quickly when there's talk 519 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: of well, he's on the autism spectrum, like that's something 520 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: we have autism in my family. I'm very active with 521 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: autism charities. 522 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 4: I love. 523 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: The work that so many of these charities do to 524 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: raise awareness. And one of the things you should be 525 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: aware of is that these are wonderful, emotional, passionate connected people. 526 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: Oftentimes obviously there's a full spectrum on the autism spectrum. 527 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 2: But the idea somehow that in this heinous act they 528 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: could even mention this as a possibility, like they were 529 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: going to hang a defense on some of that, it's 530 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: loathsome to me. So it's a John coblt Show, Mark 531 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: Thompson sitting in on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere 532 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. 533 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six. 534 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: Forty John co Belt Show. Mark Thompson's sitting in. At 535 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: three o'clock. Lou Shapiro will be here. We'll talk about 536 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: the you know, he's a former public defender in La County, 537 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: and he really can. Additionally, slice and dice this Sean 538 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: Comb's case, and we will review the Coburger case and 539 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 2: settlement too. But the Shawn Combs case, particularly given the 540 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: fact that the breaking is of the hour, as you 541 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: heard from Deborah, is that Shawn Combs won't be going home. 542 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he was excited about having dodged the big 543 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: legal bullets that he did, but the reality is now 544 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: he has to wait in prison and it's not a 545 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: fun place to wait until sentencing. We'll ask Lou about 546 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: that again. That's the top of the next hour. Former 547 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: Vice President Kamala Harris a favorite in the gubernatorial race 548 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: if she runs. This is a new poll. She hasn't decided, okay, 549 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: but apparently she's pretty well positioned to coast in. Many 550 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: voters are undecided, but she was the choice of forty 551 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: one one percent of survey respondents, compared to twenty nine 552 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: percent who opt for an unnamed Republican candidate. In this poll. 553 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: This is the University of California at Irvine. You see Irvine. 554 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: She also had the greatest favorability rating and is most 555 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: well known compared to all the candidates who have announced, 556 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: and you know that's really, as you know, the biggest 557 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: lift you've got to get your name there. I'd say, 558 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: on the other side of things, someone like Caruso has 559 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: pretty good name recognition. I mean, he ran for mayor, 560 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: put on a great campaign, I thought, and has meant 561 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: a lot of this to the state of California, and 562 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: he is debating. 563 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 4: Whether to run for mayor again or. 564 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: To make a run for the governorship. He was the 565 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: favorite choice of GOP voters. He has twenty seven percent 566 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: of those surveyed. And again, Kamala Harris, it would seem 567 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: has immense name recognition for all the obvious reasons. I mean, 568 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: she was pretty good in the name recognition department before 569 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: her presidential run. But obviously here in California she has 570 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: tremendous name recognition. Only five percent of California's had never 571 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: heard of her, So this is a real I don't 572 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: want to I would say the path is cleared substantially 573 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: for her. Antonio Viragosa ran for governor twenty eighteen. He 574 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: was unknown by forty seven percent of these same survey respondents. 575 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: That's the same survey methodology, not the same respondents, and 576 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: forty eight percent unfamiliar with Katie Porter, who ran for 577 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: US senator. Course, so when tested against the candidates who 578 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: have announced, Kamala Harris the choice of twenty four percent 579 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: of the voters, that's the only candidate to crack double digits. 580 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: According to the poll. It's still early. There's a big 581 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: undecided chunk of voters in California forty percent of the 582 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: respondents undecided according to this poll. So as this narrative unfolds, 583 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: certainly it looks as though a Democrat would carry the state, 584 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: but the leading Republican candidate would probably be Rick Caruso, 585 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: who still has to make a decision as to whether 586 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: or not he. 587 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 4: Wants to make the run. 588 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: When we come back, lu Shapiro will slice and dice 589 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: the p Diddy verdicts and why he's not getting bail 590 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: and getting out as he awaits sentencing. It's the John 591 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: Covelt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in on KOFI AM six 592 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 593 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John coe Belt the 594 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on 595 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty from one to four pm every 596 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. And of course anytime on demand on 597 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app.