WEBVTT - Ep. 16 — The squeaky wheel gets the pay raise

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<v Speaker 1>He's on down. He's on down down. Come on now,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one down. He's on down. Don't you carry nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that might be alone? Come on out, he's on down,

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<v Speaker 1>he's on down there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's we can't do the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>That was oh my god, the Whiz?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, how did you well? First? Hello everybody being man,

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<v Speaker 1>You're so hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I just had a cup of coffee and it's

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<v Speaker 3>six forty pm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, welcome back to what episode is this of Brown Ambitions?

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<v Speaker 2>They've grown sixteen? Sweet sixteen?

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<v Speaker 1>We were sixteen and never been kissed. Yes, welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the sixteenth episode of Brown Ambition. And yes, the Wiz.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think of it?

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<v Speaker 3>I have been so hype for the Whiz for the

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<v Speaker 3>last like ever since they announced, and I remember watching

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<v Speaker 3>Shanie Williams go on the Today Show as like this.

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<v Speaker 2>New talent I loved, Like Mary J.

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<v Speaker 3>Blige, I want a word to begin, like I've I've

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<v Speaker 3>been the kind of person like I watched Sound of

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<v Speaker 3>Music and I watched Peter Pan live, and while I

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<v Speaker 3>was watching it, I'm like, why am I doing this

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<v Speaker 3>with my life?

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I? Like I only.

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<v Speaker 3>Watched Sounds of music for on Audrey McDonald like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>like the one reason, Okay, Peter Pan was a waste

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<v Speaker 3>of my life. And I was like, but from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>Wiz was just so different. The set design, Yeah, costume, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>David al and Greer as the lion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't even know he could sing, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and my friend's like, and I still don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, ooh in the shade he was. He was good.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ask, it was so good.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot that he was even him. I forgot all

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<v Speaker 3>about Neo until the end. I was like, wait, who

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<v Speaker 3>was the tin man? Yeah, I forgot all about Neo because

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<v Speaker 3>he was so good. He was blended in Yeah Blige.

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<v Speaker 1>Queen, I just love Queen. Lets you. Her outfit was

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<v Speaker 1>so her costume was so beautiful. I was trying to.

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<v Speaker 3>Think whose costume was my favorite? And I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the award goes to everybody in the Emeralds in the

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<v Speaker 3>Emerald Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Vogue they gave me. Yes, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was entranced.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and the poppies, of course, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>look at these sexy poppies. Give me a little tourm

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<v Speaker 1>It's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lion just like a manly I know that was so

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<v Speaker 3>different I never seen I mean, obviously, I wasn't even

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<v Speaker 3>born when the play was on Broadway, and I saw

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<v Speaker 3>the movie version, like I don't even know the last

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<v Speaker 3>time I saw maybe when I was a little little girl.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's sort of like it was completely fresh for me.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of the plot I didn't even remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just remember like thinking that the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>played the Scarecrow, I loved him, but he reminded me

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<v Speaker 1>of Michael, and it just made me a little bit sad, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when Michael played this. And I even went online,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure so many people did, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up like he's on down the rule so I

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<v Speaker 1>could watch it on YouTube, and I was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Michael and he was acting and singing and dancing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just hit me, like, yo, Michael Jackson was amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>so talented and yeah, so oh it was just really

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<v Speaker 1>nosalgic for me. Me and Supergirl watched it. Superman was

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs watching football. He was like, yeah, if.

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<v Speaker 2>Ass oh, that was probably her first time watching that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't really because she asked me in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning because she fell asleep. She said so how did

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<v Speaker 1>it end? And I said, are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>And she was like, Nod'd never seen the Wizard of Oz.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she's nine and so you know, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? How did it end? She's like

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<v Speaker 1>how did it end? Like it was a new movie

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like knew. I was like, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to watch it. So a new tradition tradition for us.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe. I forgot, like, oh, she didn't grow

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<v Speaker 1>up in that error.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing that this is going to be her first

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<v Speaker 3>Wizard of Oz. Yeah, I know, right, Oh, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>at pictures. Oh Amber Riley. First of all, I love

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<v Speaker 3>Amber Riley, like I follow her on Instagram. I love

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<v Speaker 3>her voice, I love her person, I love I watched

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<v Speaker 3>her on Dancing with the Stars. That's how good her

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<v Speaker 3>I am. And she was so good at as what

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<v Speaker 3>was her Adlene able Ling? How do you say her name?

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<v Speaker 1>The watch? Yeah? I know, but she was really good.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think anyone in the cast. I wish that

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<v Speaker 3>Stephanie Mills had had more time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I also I saw someone tweet and I had to agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like everyone else has like a modern outfit but

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<v Speaker 3>they put aunt em in this like old lady outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Why wasn't she dressed for twenty fifteen?

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, you're right. And there was just so many

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<v Speaker 1>things that were kind of funny, like when they found

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<v Speaker 1>out that Queen Lativa, the Whiz character was a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, whatcham would being a woman? I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yes, you better assass them.

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<v Speaker 3>That was so perfect for her too, because she's already

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of andry. She can be really androgynous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she's come out as gay, you know, fairly recently,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was just kind of like okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it like when she was in her robe,

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<v Speaker 1>when they like, you know, pull back the curtain, I

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<v Speaker 1>was dying because that is so me in Jersey, sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at my deck. I was like, look at queen representing

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<v Speaker 1>for the at home entrepreneurs her so.

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<v Speaker 2>Looked pretty good for me in our home.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but it was just good. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>good time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what did you think of uz Uzu Aduba? I

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know people are like, oh, she missed

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<v Speaker 1>some notes and whatever. I'm like, it's live. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do with your life watching at home.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I thought, I love the fact that when

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<v Speaker 1>she came down, this brown woman, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing out of Dorothy's mouth was she's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's it, you know, that's and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what, That's why I was thinking Supergirl, like the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that this is her very first Wizard of Oz,

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<v Speaker 3>Like she doesn't know any other odds. It's like people

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<v Speaker 3>who were born for with a black president for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. And when you think about how

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<v Speaker 1>transformative is that for you, that it's not a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal to have a black president because that's all you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever known.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Mile.

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<v Speaker 3>On the internets, some people who obviously did not grow

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<v Speaker 3>up with an all black casts and anything where even

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<v Speaker 3>before the Wiz aired, people were already like throwing shade

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<v Speaker 3>and asking the stupidest questions like why isn't there a

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<v Speaker 3>white Whiz.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, where's the white wiz at?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? If it was an all white casts, you guys

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<v Speaker 3>would be calling racism.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hello, have you not seen the Wizard of Oz?

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<v Speaker 1>You idiots? That's what that is. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, are they just doing this just to

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<v Speaker 3>get you know, their tweet shared online. And then also

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<v Speaker 3>just like, can we talk about every single movie where

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<v Speaker 3>it's all white people and there's like maybe one person

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<v Speaker 3>in the Like I just finished watching The Gilmore Girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you like The Gilmore Girls?

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<v Speaker 1>I did? Actually I liked.

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<v Speaker 3>It too, but like it was like maybe halfway through

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<v Speaker 3>the third season and I'm like, wait a second, there

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<v Speaker 3>is not literally not one brown person in its entire season.

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<v Speaker 2>And we watched all the way through, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, this is this is all like if they went

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<v Speaker 3>through seven seasons of a show based in Connecticut or

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<v Speaker 3>New York, both places, ye had a single black character.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I mean we've been but like that's not and

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<v Speaker 3>that's not a new thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's just normal. It's called life and Nobody. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like I saw I saw a funny

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<v Speaker 3>tweet of someone they found the background dancers at the

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<v Speaker 3>Evil Quitch's Layer, Evil Evil Witch's Layer, Mary J. Bludge,

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<v Speaker 3>and they found one white guy in the back and

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, oh, here you go, here's your token, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Us, welcome to our world. Yes, yeah, the Wiz. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's just so crazy because that was the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wiz. It was in response to the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the Wizard of Ours really was an all white

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<v Speaker 1>like you know production, and here was like a little

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<v Speaker 1>flavor added and you know, a little brown flavor. It's just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people always are looking for something whatever. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they got like a viewership of like almost twelve

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<v Speaker 1>million people watched that night.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just was like, oh, it was just nice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like, I did a lot of live facebooking

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<v Speaker 1>just because it was fun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter, I was on the twitters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was trying on the Twitter, and like they

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of funny memes, especially about poor Toto.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the memes about.

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<v Speaker 2>Total No because they didn't get in the airtimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they had this one picture of like three dogs

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<v Speaker 1>like like with your eyes narrowed, looking mad like Totals

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<v Speaker 1>family watching tonight, Like where is he? I was dying.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Toto does not care.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't have had a dog the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, come on, exactly can you imagine live that dog

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<v Speaker 1>would have been pooping and peeing, running around and barking.

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<v Speaker 1>They just could not have done that.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. Oh it was so good. The you know

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of reminds me. I heard on and I

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<v Speaker 3>was listening to the read this week and Kid Fury

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<v Speaker 3>was talking about how Lupitza niongo. You know, how she's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have a role in the new Star Wars movie

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<v Speaker 3>that everyone is like losing their shit about. Yeah, about

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<v Speaker 3>the movie itself, apparently her role. He says, there's speculation

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<v Speaker 3>that it's been like cut to a sliver okay, Oscar

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<v Speaker 3>winning actress Lapiza, which is kind of a bummer because

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<v Speaker 3>she would have been the only black woman in that

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<v Speaker 3>whole cast.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably, But I thought I saw like a quote from

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<v Speaker 4>the director saying that like Lupitza was amazing or something

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<v Speaker 4>like that, and the answer, oh good, okay, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>I saw something like that, So I guess we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the proof will be in the pudding.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna go?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't you know. I'm not a big Star Wars fan.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if I am. I've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just talking to my fiance. She said, we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna try and watch it this weekend because I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of want to see it, like I want to see

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<v Speaker 3>it for lu Pizza or I want to see it

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<v Speaker 3>for the I don't know what character the other black

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<v Speaker 3>guy's playing. I want to see it for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, right to see you for the blacks people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't. I not a huge movie like

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<v Speaker 1>Jarelle is a huge movie person, and like I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>just because you know, I'm trying to be like a

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<v Speaker 1>good girlfriend. But I'm the type of person I rather

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<v Speaker 1>watch the movie like in the house on the couch

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<v Speaker 1>where I can pause to go to the bath and

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<v Speaker 1>get some food.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Oh, you're that kind. It was like my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>I was always yelling. I'm like, Mom, sit down, I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to do the laundry real quick. Yeah no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're watching a movie. Oh but the dishes.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the whole ambiance of like movie. Him and Supergirl,

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<v Speaker 1>so well, Superman and Supergirl will have a whole ambience

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<v Speaker 1>of like movie time. And I'm always like, ooh, real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>quick phone call. He's like, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what my dad and I do together, go to

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<v Speaker 2>see movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>What else is? Oh? I lost my notes on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to pick what else was both?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my girlfriend sent me this, so my friend I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna call her out. Her name is Jess. She is

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<v Speaker 2>my dear.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been friends with her since my freshman year of college,

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<v Speaker 3>so going on ten years now, and she's been single

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<v Speaker 3>for a while, sorry, just living in New York City.

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<v Speaker 3>And she sent me she sent me this link up

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<v Speaker 3>from box. So I was talking about what's the headline, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I asked my boyfriend to move in with me to

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<v Speaker 3>save rent? And Jess was like, God, I really feel

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time, like happy.

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<v Speaker 2>To be single.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to do this, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>this is not I mean, I read the article and

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<v Speaker 3>she's like talking about how she's not alone, that a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people ask their boyfriends their girlfriends to move

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<v Speaker 3>in to save rent, and personally, like, I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see, It's not that much different than like.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting a roommate, you know. Yeah, but I find it's

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<v Speaker 2>so common in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just feel like it's common. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the only reason, but I remember one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that Jirelle said to me when we were dating

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. He was like, why don't you move

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<v Speaker 1>in and just save rent? You know? And I know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was that's why I said no. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, I'm good because my friend is

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<v Speaker 1>about the same as when I'll pay splitting it with you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then he was like, all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want you to be here. You're always here anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like That's what I wanted to hear exactly. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like right, because I think he was trying to appeal

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<v Speaker 1>to my budgetiste the side of being like, oh, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell her to save, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't move me. But yeah, so, I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm paying I was paying really low rent before so

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<v Speaker 1>and when I first moved in, Jerell was like paying

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<v Speaker 1>all Darrell starting at Superman, was paying all the bills,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like I built that. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you want some help? And so now, like which,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, one of my BFFs, told me that I

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy that I should let him man be a man.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I didn't, you know, I just a mandy man

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<v Speaker 2>by what paying all the bills?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he was paying all the bills. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>I make significantly more than Superman. He was paying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the bills, and well most of them, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say he was paying about seventy five percent of the bill,

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<v Speaker 1>because of course I was paying my own bill, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was paying like the cable and that

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<v Speaker 1>was it, and I just did it didn't feel right,

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<v Speaker 1>especially since I was making more than him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am making more than him. She was like, no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you know. She subscribes to the whole Steve Harvey theory,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, I'm not necessarily in agreement with, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had anybody take care of me financially, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like, well, we both eat the same

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<v Speaker 1>food and you know, use up the same amount of

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<v Speaker 1>room in the house, that we should split the bills.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think that's very antiquated, that whole idea,

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<v Speaker 3>especially today. I mean, unless you're dating is like a

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<v Speaker 3>banker or something and he's you know, loaded, and he yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter. But I feel like we're all in the

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<v Speaker 3>same both these days, most couples and you're in their

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<v Speaker 3>twenties and thirties, like you probably have student loan debt,

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<v Speaker 3>you probably haven't had that much of a raise in

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<v Speaker 3>the last few years, and I think you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be like the whole I don't know, I just think

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<v Speaker 3>that's not fair to the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why I said that. I was just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>because she was like, what you should let him be

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<v Speaker 1>a man. You shouldn't have offered, And I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems a little selfish.

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<v Speaker 2>That, like, no, what if they ended up presenting you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who knows, especially you know, especially with seeing my

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<v Speaker 1>business grow, like wow, Tifany's making great money and she's

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<v Speaker 1>literally paying nothing. It just didn't seem like fair. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not It's not like I'm paying I said, Hey, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take care of all the bills myself. I just said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go half plus.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that forces you into a position of me

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<v Speaker 3>like you made me feel guilty always paying the bills

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<v Speaker 3>so I should clean the kitchen and yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it just sort of pushes you into these other guilty

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for being it makes you guilty and then

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<v Speaker 3>you do all these other roles that like you maybe

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<v Speaker 3>not have time for. It's not just to sort of

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<v Speaker 3>have this like semblance of equality.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just true. We're pretty equal on everything when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to like cooking, cleaning, all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we have I have weeks definitely that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do a whole lot, and I have weeks

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<v Speaker 1>that I do do a whole lot as it relates

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<v Speaker 1>to that, But I don't know, it feels right for

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<v Speaker 1>me to be It just feels good to know like

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<v Speaker 1>we're going half, we're good and you know, and plus

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<v Speaker 1>that means he has extra money left over for that ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'm exact that he's saving for. You know. I'm like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I did a little check in recently, have

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<v Speaker 1>that ring money going. He just looked at me, like, Tiffany, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Only been Wait, hasn't it been like a week since

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<v Speaker 2>you started hinting?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, well, no, from the very beginning. See,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm thirty six, so befo. When we first started dating,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, before we enter into this relationship, let's make

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<v Speaker 1>sure we're on the same page of where we're headed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and so he was just like, because,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Durrell Superman's not new to me. We had

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<v Speaker 1>been friends for a while, we had dated a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit earlier when we were younger, and so this wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like some brand new person. It was kind of like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if this is something we're doing, are we on the

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<v Speaker 1>same page and he was, And so I just check

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<v Speaker 1>in every once in a while because my biggest thing

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<v Speaker 1>and his biggest thing is always if you're not on

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<v Speaker 1>the same page as me, just let me know. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it might hurt my feelings and I might be heartbroken

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but I rather know so I can make

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<v Speaker 1>a choice based upon what is not what I want

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<v Speaker 1>it to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, definitely, And I think that you should be,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, like my Fance and I we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about like getting married before moving in together, and yep,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would say, I mean, maybe it's just because

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<v Speaker 3>I was raised by a single mom and I saw,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when my parents got divorced, she couldn't afford

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<v Speaker 3>the house that they had, so she had to move

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<v Speaker 3>and we were living with my uncle for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we moved into a tiny little house, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was always a struggle. And I always told myself, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never going to be relying on a man enough,

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<v Speaker 3>like if a guy moves out, I want to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to at least know that I can pay the

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<v Speaker 3>rent on my own and that I won't be out

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, homeless, or like out on the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>out on my own and that's always been in the

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<v Speaker 3>back of my mind. And then you know, my Fancee

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<v Speaker 3>has known that from the get go, like I'm moving

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<v Speaker 3>in with you for because I love you, because I

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<v Speaker 3>want to live with you, not because I need to

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<v Speaker 3>financially mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>And he respects that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's said. I mean, I feel like every

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's relationship, you have to make up your own rules.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one thing I've learned. So like my I have

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<v Speaker 1>one friend who I just love her relationship with her boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been together since there were kids, honestly off and on,

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<v Speaker 1>and but they like since they were fourteen, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, thirty two, and like you would think that

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<v Speaker 1>they just started dating. They're so cute together, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they laugh, they play, they joke. And one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned from her is as long as she and

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<v Speaker 1>I have been friends, I've known her since high school.

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<v Speaker 1>She I can count on one hand that she said

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<v Speaker 1>anything even slightly disparaging about him. She might be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting on my nerves, but that's even rare. And

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<v Speaker 1>she has never discussed like they're they're inside business, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And so just seeing that has just given me like

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<v Speaker 1>a great like kind of like roadmap to like that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I want to be. I want that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I checked him exactly, you know, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure they've gone through whatever. I'm sure, but she would

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<v Speaker 1>never ever, ever be like, oh, let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what terrible thing that he's done and I'm so sick

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<v Speaker 1>of him, Like that just doesn't come out of her mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>even if she's upset with him. You know, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>it is very toxic because you're not always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be mad at your boo, but now you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have the whole world mad at them forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've always well, I've learned to not hold the

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<v Speaker 3>grudges since he and I moved in together. Like we

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<v Speaker 3>like we just literally we're outside here. I am talking

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<v Speaker 3>about our beef on the podcast, but we just got

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<v Speaker 3>into like a little like we were just bickering about

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<v Speaker 3>who needs to clean who needs to clean this spare

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<v Speaker 3>bedroom and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, but I did it last week and He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you never grab but let me get in home, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, whatever, we're engaged. What am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Like be mad forever? It is stupid, and I feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I was when we first started dating, though,

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<v Speaker 3>I was so quick to immediately text my best friend,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we would get together, put our heads

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<v Speaker 3>together at work and just talk about all the horrible

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<v Speaker 3>things that's you know, what our boyfriends had done the past,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just it just comes with age. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you grow and you get perspective, like what's a small

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<v Speaker 3>thing and what's a big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And she stopped because she said one of she had

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<v Speaker 1>lost the best friend in college because that had happened.

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<v Speaker 1>She had said something like, oh, he did this, he

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<v Speaker 1>did that, and then the best friend started treating her

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<v Speaker 1>boo poorly and then it became this you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like and then it became this toxic relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between the three of them, and the best friend just

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<v Speaker 1>it did wasn't a fit anymore. So the best friend

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<v Speaker 1>kind of basically left, and you know, so I just so,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, I just learned to be like I have

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<v Speaker 1>to protect him. That I'm angry at him temporarily, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can say something that can have people

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<v Speaker 1>angry at him for life.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really protective of you know, because we both are

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<v Speaker 3>the breadwinner, right, I mean, not that we're like combining

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<v Speaker 3>finances with our partner. Yeah, completely, but we earn more

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<v Speaker 3>than our partners. And I really I'm protective because between

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<v Speaker 3>him and I its cool, but I'm protective of anyone

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<v Speaker 3>else having an opinion about that not being up. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>m I'm like he does so much for me. Money

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<v Speaker 3>is not the only thing that's important, and it's it works,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm really I'm whenever I hear someone kind of

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<v Speaker 3>start to judge that that, like that balance it, it

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<v Speaker 3>makes me upset.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I agree because I don't allow for any of

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<v Speaker 1>that because I'm like, what, like Superman is like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the kindest, nicest people that I always sound You're

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<v Speaker 1>so much nicer than I am. Like I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>any of the neighbors' names. He knows miss Mary has

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<v Speaker 1>a bad hip and brings her food on Wednesdays. He

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<v Speaker 1>knows that like little Jeremiah just started preschool and will

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<v Speaker 1>get him a bike for his birthday. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like the kindest, sweetest and I'm like that's such a

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<v Speaker 1>small thing to me, being like the breadwinner. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in comparison to someone who's actually a good kind person.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're right, me too. I'm protective over that. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish somebody would say something. M M.

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<v Speaker 3>If you'd like to say something, you can email us

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<v Speaker 3>a Strong Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Or tweet us at the BA podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>But I say, don't move in together just because of

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<v Speaker 2>the money. You may regret it.

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<v Speaker 3>And honestly, what happens when he moves out. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>any roommate, what happens when they move out. You need

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<v Speaker 3>to have a backup plan. Have your own money. Please

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<v Speaker 3>have your own money?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Oh lord, Okay, So I think that's it for

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<v Speaker 2>bus Worthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Buzzworthy out. So first, so it's now it's brown

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<v Speaker 1>break time, right, and me and Mandy we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have We weren't gonna have a brown break. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I started thinking I actually do want to take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't have anything to be annoyed about.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a second, and it this is not necessarily like

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel bad because my best friend just had

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<v Speaker 1>one of these, my sister just had one of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's having one of these because I'm in my thirty

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<v Speaker 1>so everyone was popping out these. I'm talking about bagels.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love some babies. I love my new nephew.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my godson who is my best friend's uh baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, can you do it? Can you say the whole thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I need a brow and break from babies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I need a brown bait from babies, not the

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<v Speaker 1>babies themselves, but like from like and then the baby did,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the baby said, and then I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that the baby said and did said said, big big baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I need a break just because every because I guess

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<v Speaker 1>once you hit your thirties, everyone's like either having kids

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<v Speaker 1>or their kids are just starting to do interesting things.

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<v Speaker 1>And so my timeline is babied out. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. This is slightly hate because I want a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I do kind of want a baby. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>have a baby, I will be sure to annoy everyone

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<v Speaker 1>with my incested baby pictures exactly Like you should see

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<v Speaker 1>my text now, Like you know, when you're twenty, some

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<v Speaker 1>of your texts are like salacious. You're like, hey, no,

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<v Speaker 1>my text now, anybody can read my g rated text.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just full of baby pictures from all my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>my friends and family, like and look at him smiling

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<v Speaker 1>and look at him laughing, and I'm like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do the thing where you like some of

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<v Speaker 3>your friend's babies better than others?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know what I mean, I have a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Favorites, and I was like, it's a couple of not

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<v Speaker 2>so favorites. I don't know how. I don't know what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I just connect with some babies more than uthers. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what. The two closest babies in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still so young. Like my best friend's baby, he's like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>seven months or eight months, and he is mister gigglely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that baby is the happiest baby I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's like it's blue outside, it's green outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy, happy, happy. And then my sister's baby is

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<v Speaker 1>like the most chill cool, like that baby was born

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<v Speaker 1>with sunglasses on and he is so and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>like I helped my parents put up the Christmas tree

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<v Speaker 1>and my sisters and I today and so she brought

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<v Speaker 1>her baby and he I was just like, look at

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<v Speaker 1>this baby. He is so chill. No matter how much

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<v Speaker 1>we were like smaiya giggle laugh, He's like I'm actually chilling.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys look a little silly, but Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>His face is just like cool as a cue humber,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's so adorable.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, tell me a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, yeah, he's very dry. You were like, okay, like

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<v Speaker 1>no crying or nothing, just looking at you like, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're gonna have to do beds than that. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Yeah, So I love them both, and like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really sick of, you know, babies, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm ready for a baby, and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>it is it's a lot of work. Though. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure you're ready because it's a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they would like a brown break from their

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<v Speaker 2>own babies.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, you could have my baby for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I kind of want to adopt.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I wanted to mention this earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>I just read this really good article on Yahoo actually

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<v Speaker 3>not a shameless plug Yahoo parenting. It was like it

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<v Speaker 3>was an article about a white mother who talked about

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<v Speaker 3>adopting two young black boys and she already she adopted

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<v Speaker 3>all of her children. Then she has four kids, two

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<v Speaker 3>white girls and then two black boys. And I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was a really good story just about like how

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<v Speaker 3>like a white mother's perspective of raising two black boys,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was so self aware.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I made sure we have black friends. I

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<v Speaker 2>do my best.

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<v Speaker 3>She listed off all these things that she try has

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<v Speaker 3>to do for them. It reminded me of my mom

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, because it's got to be hard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>my poor mom, I mean not by I grew up

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<v Speaker 3>in the South and she had two brown babies, two

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<v Speaker 3>white babies, and I'm sure people gave her weird stairs

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<v Speaker 3>all the time in the grocery store, you know, but

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<v Speaker 3>she did a great job treating us all like equals.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's so funny you mentioned this because my

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<v Speaker 1>sister was asking me today. I was like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taping with Mandy today, and she was like, is Mandy black?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, her dad's black, her mom's wife. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so strange. She's like, who does she what

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<v Speaker 1>does she identify as? And I just thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>such an interesting question. And I'm like, because when I

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<v Speaker 1>first saw her, I thought, hmmm, I would have because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the same thing. I thought maybe you were

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<v Speaker 1>like hispanic, but I knew there was a little something

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, hmm, she's got an extra curl

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<v Speaker 1>in her hair, and I was like, Oh, what does

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy identify it? I said, I don't. I think Mandy

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<v Speaker 1>identifies as I told her. I feel like you identify

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<v Speaker 1>as a woman of color. That not all the way

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, sister girl black, not all the way

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<v Speaker 1>you know, miss Mandy white, but like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>just a woman of color. That's how that's my vibe

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<v Speaker 1>from you. But what do you identify us?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I say black and white. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if there's a I mean, this is, this is whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a question I've been asked my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you who?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you from? What's your background? People people stop

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<v Speaker 2>me on the street all the time like where are

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<v Speaker 2>you from?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll be like America, and I'll get really annoyed.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like no, but like, what's your background, Oh, Georgia, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do know. I just say I'm black

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<v Speaker 2>and white.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean I grew up even further dividing those

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<v Speaker 3>two worlds. But the fact that they got divorced when

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<v Speaker 3>I was ten, so I would be black. When I

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<v Speaker 3>was on my dad's family, surrounded by my black aunts,

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<v Speaker 3>my cousins, my uncles, I love them dearly. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really grateful for my background. I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 3>got the best of both worlds in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, I guess it was just like this

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<v Speaker 1>random question just because, like I said, it was so random.

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<v Speaker 1>And she asked, what does Mandy identify us? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't all biracial people.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just biracial. Well, no, it depends to me.

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<v Speaker 1>What I've seen is that the majority of biracial people

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<v Speaker 1>that clearly look like once one of their segments like

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<v Speaker 1>identify like you know, like say, for example, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you get like somebody who's like maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>might be half white half black, but they look so black,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, super chocolate skin, curly hair for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, then it's I mean, it's not even a

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<v Speaker 1>question because it's just like, well, I look so black,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not like I'm hiding. And then but you

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<v Speaker 1>do get some And then because I've gone to school

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<v Speaker 1>with one of my friends was biracial in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>But she like it's almost like I could tell she

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<v Speaker 1>was a little something, but only with like the trained

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<v Speaker 1>black eye, could you see a little something, because honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>she looked like Nicole Ritchie, like you could really not

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<v Speaker 1>hardly tell at all that she her father was black,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was like really fair and had like curly hair,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she she more so identified with her mom's

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<v Speaker 1>side like white and nothing she would herself like just

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<v Speaker 1>plaining white. But I don't know, it just seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the road that she was taking, which is okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then you have somebody like Jesse Williams

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<v Speaker 1>hight is that his last name, Williams. Super cute, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he could like totally you know, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like, he doesn't have super strong black features, and

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<v Speaker 1>even though he has looks like he has a little

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<v Speaker 1>something in him he could easily identify with, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>white if he wanted to. But it seems like he

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<v Speaker 1>heavily identifies with being black more so than anything, even

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<v Speaker 1>though of course he doesn't discount or discredit his you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his his white side. But I don't know, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that it matters a whole hell of a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more to everybody else would identify myself as Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to be sassy, but I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about this before, Like, I'm just I'm tired of

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<v Speaker 3>people telling me I'm not black.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired of people telling me that I'm not this.

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<v Speaker 2>My hair is this? You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just I mean, people ask me, why are

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<v Speaker 3>you trying to make your hair natural? Like why don't

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<v Speaker 3>you just, you know, just diet straight, died straight, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>make it straight. I had a coworker tell me that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't black because I tried to do the whip nanna

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<v Speaker 3>and I had no idea how to do it to

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<v Speaker 3>like's not black, you're not black, And I'm like, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>So fucking sorry. I'm so tired of.

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<v Speaker 3>People having an opinion about what I am. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>fine for people to be curious, I guess, But at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time, it's not like I'm I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. I'm not trying to defend someone like Rachel Dolesol.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, I mean, I actually have

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<v Speaker 3>the background. I have a black father and a white mother,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, well, I'm I'm not gonna pick a lane.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, and you don't have to, you know. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>funny because it's like I remember, like, like, now you

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell by the way I speak, but when I

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.959
<v Speaker 1>grew up in an all white, mostly Jewish town, and

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<v Speaker 1>so at one point, like I didn't even I didn't

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>know what I sounded like. I just felt like I

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>sounded like me, but I sounded like like a valley girl,

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<v Speaker 1>like I am a name Sippy, and like there was

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<v Speaker 1>no base in my voice, no, no, nothing, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>just where I grew up. And it wasn't until I

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>came to work in New York, which is like majority black,

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<v Speaker 1>and that somebody was like, why do you talk like that?

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>And I literally had no idea what they met And

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like what, And I thought maybe because my parents

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>are African. I'm like, do I have an African accent

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>or something? Because I was born in America. But and

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>she's like, like, you know, why do you talk like that? Stop?

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<v Speaker 1>And I did not know what she meant. I was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, and I'm like, what do you mean. She's

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<v Speaker 1>like stop, like she thought that I was putting on

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>And for the longest time, people really thought that I

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<v Speaker 1>was forcing that accent. And I just remember being like

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<v Speaker 1>and then someone telling me and then used to pick

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<v Speaker 1>on me, like my first job in Newark, like the

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>black girls would pick on me and tell me that

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't black and I sound like a white girl,

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and like they were gonna beat me up and some

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>other foolishness. Until one day I just snapped and she

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<v Speaker 1>was like something something yeah, okay, whatever, white girl. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, can I ask you a question? And she

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>was like yeah. I said where were your parents born?

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>And she was like Jersey. I said what about your grandmother?

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 1>And she was like Georgia. I was like, well, what

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>about her grandmother? She was like I don't know. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know where my parents were born? She

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>was like where? I said, Africa? You want to know

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>where they're parents were born. She's like where, I said, Africa?

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>You want to know where they're parents are born? She said where?

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I said Africa and Africa before that and Africa before that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you who's the blackest person in this room.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not you, so like, don't you know? And I

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>just remember telling her that that, like just because I

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>sound a certain way and I don't have hardly any rhythm,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just true for whatever reason, like that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make me less black, you know. And I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can trace my roots back to the to back before

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<v Speaker 1>when my last name was one name and the village

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>was started by my great great great great grandfather. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm good on the black side. And after

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<v Speaker 1>that they stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even get what it is, Like, what is

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<v Speaker 3>the magic formula that makes you black enough? I think

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 3>what it gets down to is socioeconomic status.

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, where you grew up and where you're from,

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>And like, I'm not even gonna lie, I'm not from

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<v Speaker 2>the hood.

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah me either.

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Our family is my dad's family live in the hood.

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I go there over the holidays, feel uncomfortable all the

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 3>time because I'm not of that environment, but I love

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 3>my family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And like it's so crazy now because I kind

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of live in the semis the hood now because this

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>is where Superman is born and bred. And I'm like, huh,

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>look what love brought me. But honestly, I don't mind.

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You know, it was such an adjustment

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>coming from African parents, super African at home and then

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>at school everything is super white and then all of

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>a sudden coming to a super black town and but

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>it's been like, I love it though. I love that

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>I get to see different walks of life, you know,

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>as it relates to me being me and me being black.

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>But you're right, what does black really mean? Like you know,

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>is it skin color? Is it like you said, is

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>it culture? Like if you can't whip in Nane, are

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 1>you less black? I don't know. I think they should

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>tell us, like what do you think being black? Neids?

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear from the people from the

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>folks listening at home. What do you think being black? Waves?

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Sweet us at the BA podcast, Facebook us this is

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>what I think black mets at Brown Ambition on Facebook

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and email us at.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. You can read

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 3>those emails.

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm good. I don't want to read They're gonna be

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>like you're not black enough. I'm like, oh no.

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>We're not. We're asking what do you think yourselves yet?

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Like not not, we're not asking Mandy or me, but

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>what you just think that being black needs?

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 3>What's going to happen when my last name is all

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, like like my new name will be Santos,

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 3>that's my new last name.

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Then you know what's going to happen? Everyone who who's Hispanic.

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>When they see you and you don't speak Spanish, they'recause

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I think they're trying to deny your culture.

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like people will be like, oh, you're in

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Hispanish like that is like I feel like people will

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 3>be finally like, oh that makes sense. Yeah you look brown,

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 3>you're probably probably Dominican.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 3>But I love I love being ambiguous because it's allowed

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 3>me to travel and blend in everywhere I go.

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I could blend it.

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 3>In Brazil, I blended in in Chili and Argentina like

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 3>I love blending in. No one asks me any questions.

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome though. You're right though, because you're right, you could.

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>You're like, they're what they call it, uh racially ambiguous.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Actually buzz he just had a did you see that

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>article about celebrities you didn't know uh were like biracial

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But some of them.

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Look at Rashida Jones.

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean Quincy Jones is her father brown man,

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and look at what we all knew that

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>what's her face was? Uh, what's her name? Mariah Carrey was,

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>But there were some people on there that I didn't know,

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>like uh, some young well some of these people are

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>too young for us to really care about. But yeah, wow,

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 1>that was a long brown break. Did you even do

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>your brown break or not?

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 3>But I can do a brown break from people asking

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 3>me what I am? Okay, that's good, how black I

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 3>am and telling me whether or not I'm black.

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we could definitely take a break from that. So

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, don't get up the emails. I

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>think that we're taking over. We're taking a brown break

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>from that, and we're canceling that.

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I really wanted this podcast to not just speak to

0:32:58.120 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 3>speak of women of color, you know.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 2>That's why it's called ambition.

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 3>And I think that even though we may not like

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 3>I may not be Hispanic, and you may not be

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Indian American or some other race, you know, Like I

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 3>feel like there are shared experiences of being other that

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 3>we can all relate to and speak from. And that's

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 3>why that was the whole sort of impetus for this podcast.

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 3>And I hope it feels inclusive and people feel like

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 3>they can get something out of it no matter where

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 3>you're from.

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. I don't think we get like

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>super race happy most of the time. I mean, but

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>it's good to bring it up when it comes up, you.

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Know, definitely, definitely, So let's.

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Go right into wins when right when the two of us,

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I like that song Ben, that's just random anyway. So

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>a win and what is a good win?

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I have a win?

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what well?

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I kind of told you about this before, but this week,

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't want to talk about my current

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 3>employer too much, but this week I asked.

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>For a raise.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, how did it go?

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think my boss is listening to this, so hopefully,

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think it went. It went well, and

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't planned on doing it.

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have, like, you know, I didn't have a

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>PowerPoint slide presentation of my you know, accomplishments for the

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>past year. But I just know that the cute that

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.479
<v Speaker 3>third quarter is really an important in time to ask

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 3>for promotion and a raise because this is the time

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.479
<v Speaker 3>when they make all the decisions going into the last

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 3>quarter before the fiscal year ends. So from a strategy point,

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 3>I was like, now, we're never now or never. He

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 3>was very receptive, and I'm really glad I did it

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 3>because one thing he told me was, Wow, no one

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 3>else has asked me this all year, like no one else.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Has asked, and I'm like, yep, you know what.

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 3>The first thing I did was I went back to

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 3>my desk and I told the two One of my

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 3>two close work friends are both women. I was like, ladies,

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.479
<v Speaker 3>do not be afraid to ask, go ask for a raise.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 3>And I know one of them went to ask, and

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure the other one's going to ask soon.

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Good And I was like, there's and you know, I

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 3>didn't even feel like, oh, you know, I don't want

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 3>to tell anybody that this guy you know, seems open

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 3>to it.

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>You know. I wanted to share that because.

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 3>I feel like information is power, Yeah, and we should

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>tell each other everything we know about what it's, what

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 3>it takes to get to the next level. And there's

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 3>enough out there for everybody. So I was pretty proud

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 3>of that moment. I mean, who knows if it'll happen.

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>But still, the fact that you ask, that's huge, you know,

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and you never know.

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:25.720
<v Speaker 2>If you don't ask, all you do is get.

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Bitter, exactly. The answers always know if you don't ask.

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 3>And I will say this, I didn't We're supposed to

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 3>have reviews and I didn't get a review this this

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 3>past quarter, and everyone no one got a review, and

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 3>everyone's sort of just let you know, they grumbled about it,

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 3>but no one actually did anything. And I was like,

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to ask my manager for a review

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to ask for a raise.

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to do it.

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 3>And I hear people complaining about, oh, my manager doesn't

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 3>never give me a chance to you know, have a

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 3>review or sit down with me.

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes you just got to do it yourself.

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying it's not ideal, but you got to

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 3>take the initiative sometimes if your vanager is not doing

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 3>it for you because he's not there to mean he's not,

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 3>they're not. They have so much on their plate. You know,

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 3>one employee maybe isn't the priority. So you have to,

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, speak up for yourself in that way.

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:13.919
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. The squeak what is it, The squeaky wheel gets

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>the oil.

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm a squeaky wheel. I'm just squeaky everything.

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 3>And then let me tell you, I was nosing about

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 3>trying to figure everybody makes like what can I ask for?

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 2>What's possible? I ask all the awkward questions. I'm squeaky

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 2>that's good. Get in trouble one day.

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>No, most people are not are not squeaky. What was

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I going to say?

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>My win is I'm leaving tomorrow morning on my first

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>international speaking gig. Woo whoo. I'm excited. It's in Barbados.

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>It's for this this Bridle magazine called Munoluchi Bridle. They're

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.800
<v Speaker 1>having a they have an annual kind of like bridal conference.

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 2>Can you get me any coupons or like a free

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 2>copy in the magazine? Oh?

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, true, I should I forgot about that, Like yeah.

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>So they asked me to come speak because they're do

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>this conference and all these Bridal professionals flying from all

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>around the world. Some are coming as far as like Africa. Yeah,

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>so it's dope. I guess they've done this before.

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm looking at the Instagram.

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.919
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, I know, very fancy. And so they.

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Were like samples back.

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Well maybe get true. And she asked me to come

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>because she said one of the number one things I

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.919
<v Speaker 1>guess the participants of the last conference that they wanted

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to learn about was how do you budget as a

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>as a business owner? And I was like, okay, I

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>can come talk about that, and she was like, you know, obviously,

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like the hotel, flight, food, all that stuff is free.

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 1>And I was like okay, and then she was like

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you can bring anybody. Like I was like, Superman, do

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you want to fly? And he was like yes, And

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, let's see, like how much extra costs,

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, no, it'd be no additional cost for him.

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>He just have to get his flight. So then I

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>checked to see I said, you know, he has a

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>credit card. I said, well, let's see between my points

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and your credit card if we have enough points to

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<v Speaker 1>get a free flight. And we did, so, I know what,

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<v Speaker 1>five days, four nights in like a resort in Barbados

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<v Speaker 1>for free. So I'm super excited and just I know

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna have a ton of fun and like

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<v Speaker 1>literally it's just straight vacation for him. And I only

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<v Speaker 1>speak one hour on one day, so the rest is

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<v Speaker 1>just pure vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap. And they give you five days. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yeah, I'm looking at their instagram right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I got quiet. It's really pretty stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I'm really excited about them.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you talking about how to save and budget while

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<v Speaker 3>you're with the business while you're playing a wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm talking about because these are all bridal professionals,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm more so talking about how do you oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you save? Or really just how do you

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<v Speaker 1>budget when you're when you have an irregular income? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I would, you know, be talking because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody kind of struggles with that, especially at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, so I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I did well? How believe this is the

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<v Speaker 1>end of BA podcasts. We are signing off. I still

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<v Speaker 1>have packing to do. I just looking at my toes, like, yikes,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go to Barbados with these toes looking like this. Y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I have so much to do, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm excited and I can't wait to I

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<v Speaker 1>would say get a tan, but I mean I was

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<v Speaker 1>born with these sands, so you know, God did it?

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<v Speaker 2>Builtin's on screen, That's what I call it. Yep, have

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<v Speaker 2>so much fun. I'm so excited for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait too. Superman's like, are you gonna bring

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<v Speaker 1>your computer? I'm like, who are you talking to? Of course?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Vaca't you don't stop work? I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to work extra extra like I normally do. But

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<v Speaker 1>I have things to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, right, you know, I have a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, we will see you guys next week.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoyed and keep in contact with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Tweete while I'm away.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your Twitter?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? The Budgetnista and Mandy Mandy woodroff Right, Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>With I at Mandy Woodward with an I and at

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<v Speaker 2>the BA podcast. You left hearing from you guys.