1 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: He's on down. He's on down down. Come on now, 2 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: he's one down. He's on down. Don't you carry nothing 3 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: that might be alone? Come on out, he's on down, 4 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: he's on down there. 5 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Okay, let's we can't do the whole thing. 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't. 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: That was oh my god, the Whiz? 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: Yes, how did you well? First? Hello everybody being man, 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: You're so hello. 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 3: Sorry, I just had a cup of coffee and it's 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 3: six forty pm. 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: Yes, welcome back to what episode is this of Brown Ambitions? 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: They've grown sixteen? Sweet sixteen? 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: We were sixteen and never been kissed. Yes, welcome back 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: to the sixteenth episode of Brown Ambition. And yes, the Wiz. 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: What did you think of it? 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: I have been so hype for the Whiz for the 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: last like ever since they announced, and I remember watching 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: Shanie Williams go on the Today Show as like this. 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: New talent I loved, Like Mary J. 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: Blige, I want a word to begin, like I've I've 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: been the kind of person like I watched Sound of 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: Music and I watched Peter Pan live, and while I 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: was watching it, I'm like, why am I doing this 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: with my life? 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: Why am I? Like I only. 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: Watched Sounds of music for on Audrey McDonald like, that's 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: like the one reason, Okay, Peter Pan was a waste 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: of my life. And I was like, but from the beginning, 30 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 3: Wiz was just so different. The set design, Yeah, costume, Yes, 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: David al and Greer as the lion. 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even know he could sing, and like, 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, and my friend's like, and I still don't know. 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: I said, ooh in the shade he was. He was good. 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: If you ask, it was so good. 36 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: I forgot that he was even him. I forgot all 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: about Neo until the end. I was like, wait, who 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: was the tin man? Yeah, I forgot all about Neo because 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: he was so good. He was blended in Yeah Blige. 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Queen, I just love Queen. Lets you. Her outfit was 41 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: so her costume was so beautiful. I was trying to. 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: Think whose costume was my favorite? And I feel like 43 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: the award goes to everybody in the Emeralds in the 44 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: Emerald Club. 45 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: Yes, Vogue they gave me. Yes, I was. 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: I was entranced. 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: Yes, and the poppies, of course, I was like, oh, 48 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: look at these sexy poppies. Give me a little tourm 49 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: It's a. 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: Lion just like a manly I know that was so 51 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: different I never seen I mean, obviously, I wasn't even 52 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: born when the play was on Broadway, and I saw 53 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: the movie version, like I don't even know the last 54 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: time I saw maybe when I was a little little girl. 55 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: So it's sort of like it was completely fresh for me. 56 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: A lot of the plot I didn't even remember. 57 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just remember like thinking that the guy who 58 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: played the Scarecrow, I loved him, but he reminded me 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: of Michael, and it just made me a little bit sad, like, oh, 60 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: I remember when Michael played this. And I even went online, 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: which I'm sure so many people did, and I like 62 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: pulled up like he's on down the rule so I 63 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: could watch it on YouTube, and I was looking at 64 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Michael and he was acting and singing and dancing, and 65 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: it just hit me, like, yo, Michael Jackson was amazing, 66 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: so talented and yeah, so oh it was just really 67 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: nosalgic for me. Me and Supergirl watched it. Superman was 68 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: upstairs watching football. He was like, yeah, if. 69 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Ass oh, that was probably her first time watching that, right. 70 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really because she asked me in the 71 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: morning because she fell asleep. She said so how did 72 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: it end? And I said, are you kidding? 73 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: And she was like, Nod'd never seen the Wizard of Oz. 74 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: No, she's nine and so you know, And I was like, 75 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: what do you mean? How did it end? She's like 76 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: how did it end? Like it was a new movie 77 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: and I was like knew. I was like, Okay, we 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: have to watch it. So a new tradition tradition for us. 79 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe. I forgot, like, oh, she didn't grow 80 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: up in that error. 81 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: That's amazing that this is going to be her first 82 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Wizard of Oz. Yeah, I know, right, Oh, I'm looking 83 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: at pictures. Oh Amber Riley. First of all, I love 84 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: Amber Riley, like I follow her on Instagram. I love 85 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: her voice, I love her person, I love I watched 86 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: her on Dancing with the Stars. That's how good her 87 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: I am. And she was so good at as what 88 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: was her Adlene able Ling? How do you say her name? 89 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: The watch? Yeah? I know, but she was really good. 90 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone in the cast. I wish that 91 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: Stephanie Mills had had more time. 92 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 93 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: I also I saw someone tweet and I had to agree. 94 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm like everyone else has like a modern outfit but 95 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: they put aunt em in this like old lady outfit. 96 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. 97 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: Why wasn't she dressed for twenty fifteen? 98 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: You're right, you're right. And there was just so many 99 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: things that were kind of funny, like when they found 100 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: out that Queen Lativa, the Whiz character was a woman, 101 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: and she was like, whatcham would being a woman? I 102 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: was like, yes, you better assass them. 103 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: That was so perfect for her too, because she's already 104 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: that kind of andry. She can be really androgynous. 105 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's come out as gay, you know, fairly recently, 106 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: and so it was just kind of like okay. And 107 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: I saw it like when she was in her robe, 108 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: when they like, you know, pull back the curtain, I 109 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: was dying because that is so me in Jersey, sitting 110 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: at my deck. I was like, look at queen representing 111 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: for the at home entrepreneurs her so. 112 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: Looked pretty good for me in our home. 113 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: I know, but it was just good. I had a 114 00:04:59,400 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: good time. 115 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Oh what did you think of uz Uzu Aduba? I 116 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: like that. 117 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I know people are like, oh, she missed 118 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: some notes and whatever. I'm like, it's live. I'm sorry. 119 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: What do you do with your life watching at home. 120 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: I don't even remember. 121 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: I just I thought, I love the fact that when 122 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: she came down, this brown woman, you know, and the 123 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: first thing out of Dorothy's mouth was she's so beautiful. 124 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: I was like, that's it, you know, that's and you. 125 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: Know what, That's why I was thinking Supergirl, like the 126 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 3: fact that this is her very first Wizard of Oz, 127 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: Like she doesn't know any other odds. It's like people 128 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: who were born for with a black president for the 129 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: first time. 130 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. And when you think about how 131 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: transformative is that for you, that it's not a big 132 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: deal to have a black president because that's all you've 133 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: ever known. 134 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: Wow. Mile. 135 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: On the internets, some people who obviously did not grow 136 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: up with an all black casts and anything where even 137 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: before the Wiz aired, people were already like throwing shade 138 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: and asking the stupidest questions like why isn't there a 139 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: white Whiz. 140 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, where's the white wiz at? 141 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: Oh? If it was an all white casts, you guys 142 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: would be calling racism. 143 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, hello, have you not seen the Wizard of Oz? 144 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: You idiots? That's what that is. That's crazy. 145 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: It was so crazy. 146 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: I was like, are they just doing this just to 147 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 3: get you know, their tweet shared online. And then also 148 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: just like, can we talk about every single movie where 149 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: it's all white people and there's like maybe one person 150 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: in the Like I just finished watching The Gilmore Girls. 151 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: Did you like The Gilmore Girls? 152 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: I did? Actually I liked. 153 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: It too, but like it was like maybe halfway through 154 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: the third season and I'm like, wait a second, there 155 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: is not literally not one brown person in its entire season. 156 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: And we watched all the way through, and I'm. 157 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: Like, this is this is all like if they went 158 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: through seven seasons of a show based in Connecticut or 159 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: New York, both places, ye had a single black character. 160 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: Like I mean we've been but like that's not and 161 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: that's not a new thing. 162 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just normal. It's called life and Nobody. Yeah. 163 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: So I feel like I saw I saw a funny 164 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: tweet of someone they found the background dancers at the 165 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: Evil Quitch's Layer, Evil Evil Witch's Layer, Mary J. Bludge, 166 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: and they found one white guy in the back and 167 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: they're like, oh, here you go, here's your token, like. 168 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: Us, welcome to our world. Yes, yeah, the Wiz. I 169 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: mean it's just so crazy because that was the purpose 170 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: of the Wiz. It was in response to the fact 171 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: that the Wizard of Ours really was an all white 172 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: like you know production, and here was like a little 173 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: flavor added and you know, a little brown flavor. It's just, 174 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, people always are looking for something whatever. I 175 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: think they got like a viewership of like almost twelve 176 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: million people watched that night. 177 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 178 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just was like, oh, it was just nice, 179 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: and I like, I did a lot of live facebooking 180 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: just because it was fun. Yeah. 181 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: Twitter, I was on the twitters. 182 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: Yes, I was trying on the Twitter, and like they 183 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: had a lot of funny memes, especially about poor Toto. 184 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Did you see the memes about. 185 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: Total No because they didn't get in the airtimes. 186 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Yes, they had this one picture of like three dogs 187 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: like like with your eyes narrowed, looking mad like Totals 188 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: family watching tonight, Like where is he? I was dying. 189 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: I was like, Toto does not care. 190 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: They couldn't have had a dog the whole time. 191 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: Now, come on, exactly can you imagine live that dog 192 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: would have been pooping and peeing, running around and barking. 193 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: They just could not have done that. 194 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: I know. Oh it was so good. The you know 195 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: that kind of reminds me. I heard on and I 196 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: was listening to the read this week and Kid Fury 197 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: was talking about how Lupitza niongo. You know, how she's 198 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: gonna have a role in the new Star Wars movie 199 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: that everyone is like losing their shit about. Yeah, about 200 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: the movie itself, apparently her role. He says, there's speculation 201 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: that it's been like cut to a sliver okay, Oscar 202 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: winning actress Lapiza, which is kind of a bummer because 203 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: she would have been the only black woman in that 204 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: whole cast. 205 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: Probably, But I thought I saw like a quote from 206 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 4: the director saying that like Lupitza was amazing or something 207 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 4: like that, and the answer, oh good, okay, I thought 208 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 4: I saw something like that, So I guess we'll see. 209 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: You know, the proof will be in the pudding. 210 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: Are you gonna go? 211 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't you know. I'm not a big Star Wars fan. 212 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: I don't even know if I am. I've never seen it. 213 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: I was just talking to my fiance. She said, we're 214 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: gonna try and watch it this weekend because I kind 215 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 3: of want to see it, like I want to see 216 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: it for lu Pizza or I want to see it 217 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: for the I don't know what character the other black 218 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: guy's playing. I want to see it for him. 219 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, right to see you for the blacks people. 220 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I not a huge movie like 221 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: Jarelle is a huge movie person, and like I'll go 222 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: just because you know, I'm trying to be like a 223 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: good girlfriend. But I'm the type of person I rather 224 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: watch the movie like in the house on the couch 225 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: where I can pause to go to the bath and 226 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: get some food. 227 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: You know, Oh, you're that kind. It was like my mom. 228 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: I was always yelling. I'm like, Mom, sit down, I 229 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: just want to do the laundry real quick. Yeah no, no, no, 230 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: we're watching a movie. Oh but the dishes. 231 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: That is the whole ambiance of like movie. Him and Supergirl, 232 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: so well, Superman and Supergirl will have a whole ambience 233 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: of like movie time. And I'm always like, ooh, real quick, 234 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: quick phone call. He's like, are you kidding me? 235 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: That's what my dad and I do together, go to 236 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: see movies. 237 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: Oh that's cute. 238 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: What else is? Oh? I lost my notes on. 239 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to pick what else was both? 240 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: Oh, my girlfriend sent me this, so my friend I'm 241 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: gonna call her out. Her name is Jess. She is 242 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: my dear. 243 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 3: I've been friends with her since my freshman year of college, 244 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: so going on ten years now, and she's been single 245 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: for a while, sorry, just living in New York City. 246 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: And she sent me she sent me this link up 247 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: from box. So I was talking about what's the headline, like, 248 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: I asked my boyfriend to move in with me to 249 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: save rent? And Jess was like, God, I really feel 250 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: for the first time, like happy. 251 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: To be single. 252 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: I don't have to do this, and I feel like 253 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: this is not I mean, I read the article and 254 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: she's like talking about how she's not alone, that a 255 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: lot of people ask their boyfriends their girlfriends to move 256 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: in to save rent, and personally, like, I think that's 257 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: I don't see, It's not that much different than like. 258 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: Getting a roommate, you know. Yeah, but I find it's 259 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: so common in New York. 260 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like it's common. I mean, that 261 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: wasn't the only reason, but I remember one of the 262 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: things that Jirelle said to me when we were dating 263 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: for a while. He was like, why don't you move 264 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: in and just save rent? You know? And I know, 265 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: and I was that's why I said no. At first, 266 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm good because my friend is 267 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: about the same as when I'll pay splitting it with you, right, 268 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: you know. And then he was like, all right, I 269 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: just want you to be here. You're always here anywhere. 270 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm like That's what I wanted to hear exactly. I'm 271 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: like right, because I think he was trying to appeal 272 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: to my budgetiste the side of being like, oh, maybe 273 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell her to save, and I was like, yeah, 274 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: that doesn't move me. But yeah, so, I mean, honestly, 275 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: I'm paying I was paying really low rent before so 276 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: and when I first moved in, Jerell was like paying 277 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: all Darrell starting at Superman, was paying all the bills, 278 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: and I was like I built that. I'm like, well, 279 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: don't you want some help? And so now, like which, 280 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: my friend, one of my BFFs, told me that I 281 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: was crazy that I should let him man be a man. 282 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? 283 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: Like, I didn't, you know, I just a mandy man 284 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: by what paying all the bills? 285 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was paying all the bills. Even though 286 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I make significantly more than Superman. He was paying, you know, 287 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: all the bills, and well most of them, I would 288 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: say he was paying about seventy five percent of the bill, 289 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 1: because of course I was paying my own bill, and 290 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: I think I was paying like the cable and that 291 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: was it, and I just did it didn't feel right, 292 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: especially since I was making more than him, and I 293 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: am making more than him. She was like, no, that's 294 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: what you know. She subscribes to the whole Steve Harvey theory, 295 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: which you know, I'm not necessarily in agreement with, but 296 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: I've never had anybody take care of me financially, and 297 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: I just felt like, well, we both eat the same 298 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: food and you know, use up the same amount of 299 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: room in the house, that we should split the bills. 300 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: And so I think that's very antiquated, that whole idea, 301 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: especially today. I mean, unless you're dating is like a 302 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 3: banker or something and he's you know, loaded, and he yeah, 303 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. But I feel like we're all in the 304 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: same both these days, most couples and you're in their 305 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: twenties and thirties, like you probably have student loan debt, 306 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: you probably haven't had that much of a raise in 307 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: the last few years, and I think you have to 308 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: be like the whole I don't know, I just think 309 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: that's not fair to the guy. 310 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I said that. I was just like, well, 311 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: because she was like, what you should let him be 312 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: a man. You shouldn't have offered, And I'm like, yeah, 313 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: it seems a little selfish. 314 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: That, like, no, what if they ended up presenting you? 315 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows, especially you know, especially with seeing my 316 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: business grow, like wow, Tifany's making great money and she's 317 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: literally paying nothing. It just didn't seem like fair. It's 318 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: not It's not like I'm paying I said, Hey, I'll 319 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: take care of all the bills myself. I just said, like, 320 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: let's just go half plus. 321 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 3: I think that forces you into a position of me 322 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: like you made me feel guilty always paying the bills 323 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: so I should clean the kitchen and yeah, you know, 324 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: it just sort of pushes you into these other guilty 325 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: you know, for being it makes you guilty and then 326 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: you do all these other roles that like you maybe 327 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: not have time for. It's not just to sort of 328 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: have this like semblance of equality. 329 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, just true. We're pretty equal on everything when it 330 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: comes to like cooking, cleaning, all that kind of stuff. 331 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: Like you know, we have I have weeks definitely that 332 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: I don't do a whole lot, and I have weeks 333 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: that I do do a whole lot as it relates 334 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: to that, But I don't know, it feels right for 335 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: me to be It just feels good to know like 336 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: we're going half, we're good and you know, and plus 337 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: that means he has extra money left over for that ring. 338 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: Then I'm exact that he's saving for. You know. I'm like, oh, okay, 339 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, I did a little check in recently, have 340 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: that ring money going. He just looked at me, like, Tiffany, it's. 341 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: Only been Wait, hasn't it been like a week since 342 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: you started hinting? 343 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, well, no, from the very beginning. See, 344 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: because I'm thirty six, so befo. When we first started dating, 345 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: I said, before we enter into this relationship, let's make 346 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: sure we're on the same page of where we're headed. Yeah, 347 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: and you know, and so he was just like, because, 348 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Durrell Superman's not new to me. We had 349 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: been friends for a while, we had dated a little 350 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: bit earlier when we were younger, and so this wasn't 351 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: like some brand new person. It was kind of like, well, 352 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: if this is something we're doing, are we on the 353 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: same page and he was, And so I just check 354 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: in every once in a while because my biggest thing 355 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: and his biggest thing is always if you're not on 356 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: the same page as me, just let me know. Yes, 357 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: it might hurt my feelings and I might be heartbroken 358 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: or whatever, but I rather know so I can make 359 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: a choice based upon what is not what I want 360 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: it to be. 361 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, And I think that you should be, 362 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: like I said, like my Fance and I we talked 363 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: about like getting married before moving in together, and yep, 364 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: and I would say, I mean, maybe it's just because 365 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: I was raised by a single mom and I saw, 366 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: you know, when my parents got divorced, she couldn't afford 367 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: the house that they had, so she had to move 368 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: and we were living with my uncle for a while. 369 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: Then we moved into a tiny little house, and you know, 370 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: it was always a struggle. And I always told myself, like, 371 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: I'm never going to be relying on a man enough, 372 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 3: like if a guy moves out, I want to be 373 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: able to at least know that I can pay the 374 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: rent on my own and that I won't be out 375 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: of you know, homeless, or like out on the you know, 376 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: out on my own and that's always been in the 377 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: back of my mind. And then you know, my Fancee 378 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: has known that from the get go, like I'm moving 379 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: in with you for because I love you, because I 380 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: want to live with you, not because I need to 381 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 3: financially mm hmm. 382 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: And he respects that. 383 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: I think it's said. I mean, I feel like every 384 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: everyone's relationship, you have to make up your own rules. 385 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: That's one thing I've learned. So like my I have 386 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: one friend who I just love her relationship with her boyfriend. 387 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: They've been together since there were kids, honestly off and on, 388 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: and but they like since they were fourteen, and she's 389 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty two, and like you would think that 390 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: they just started dating. They're so cute together, you know, 391 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: like they laugh, they play, they joke. And one thing 392 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: I've learned from her is as long as she and 393 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: I have been friends, I've known her since high school. 394 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: She I can count on one hand that she said 395 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: anything even slightly disparaging about him. She might be like, oh, 396 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: he's getting on my nerves, but that's even rare. And 397 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: she has never discussed like they're they're inside business, you know, 398 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: And so just seeing that has just given me like 399 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: a great like kind of like roadmap to like that's 400 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: how I want to be. I want that, you know. 401 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean I checked him exactly, you know, and I'm 402 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: sure they've gone through whatever. I'm sure, but she would 403 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: never ever, ever be like, oh, let me tell you 404 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: what terrible thing that he's done and I'm so sick 405 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: of him, Like that just doesn't come out of her mouth, 406 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: even if she's upset with him. You know, that's just 407 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: it is very toxic because you're not always going to 408 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: be mad at your boo, but now you're going to 409 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: have the whole world mad at them forever. 410 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always well, I've learned to not hold the 411 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: grudges since he and I moved in together. Like we 412 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: like we just literally we're outside here. I am talking 413 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: about our beef on the podcast, but we just got 414 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: into like a little like we were just bickering about 415 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: who needs to clean who needs to clean this spare 416 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: bedroom and I. 417 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: Was like, but I did it last week and He's like, 418 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: you never grab but let me get in home, and 419 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, whatever, we're engaged. What am I going to do? 420 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: Like be mad forever? It is stupid, and I feel like. 421 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: But when I was when we first started dating, though, 422 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 3: I was so quick to immediately text my best friend, 423 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: and you know, we would get together, put our heads 424 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: together at work and just talk about all the horrible 425 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: things that's you know, what our boyfriends had done the past, 426 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: and it just it just comes with age. I think 427 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 3: you grow and you get perspective, like what's a small 428 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: thing and what's a big thing. 429 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: And she stopped because she said one of she had 430 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: lost the best friend in college because that had happened. 431 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: She had said something like, oh, he did this, he 432 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: did that, and then the best friend started treating her 433 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: boo poorly and then it became this you know what 434 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: I mean like and then it became this toxic relationship 435 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: between the three of them, and the best friend just 436 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: it did wasn't a fit anymore. So the best friend 437 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: kind of basically left, and you know, so I just so, 438 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: she said, I just learned to be like I have 439 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: to protect him. That I'm angry at him temporarily, but 440 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, I can say something that can have people 441 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: angry at him for life. 442 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: I'm really protective of you know, because we both are 443 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: the breadwinner, right, I mean, not that we're like combining 444 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: finances with our partner. Yeah, completely, but we earn more 445 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: than our partners. And I really I'm protective because between 446 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: him and I its cool, but I'm protective of anyone 447 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: else having an opinion about that not being up. Yes, 448 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 3: m I'm like he does so much for me. Money 449 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: is not the only thing that's important, and it's it works, 450 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: and I'm really I'm whenever I hear someone kind of 451 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: start to judge that that, like that balance it, it 452 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: makes me upset. 453 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: No, I agree because I don't allow for any of 454 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: that because I'm like, what, like Superman is like one 455 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: of the kindest, nicest people that I always sound You're 456 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: so much nicer than I am. Like I don't know 457 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: any of the neighbors' names. He knows miss Mary has 458 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: a bad hip and brings her food on Wednesdays. He 459 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: knows that like little Jeremiah just started preschool and will 460 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: get him a bike for his birthday. I mean, he's 461 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: like the kindest, sweetest and I'm like that's such a 462 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: small thing to me, being like the breadwinner. You know, 463 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: it's in comparison to someone who's actually a good kind person. 464 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: So you're right, me too. I'm protective over that. I 465 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: wish somebody would say something. M M. 466 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 3: If you'd like to say something, you can email us 467 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: a Strong Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. 468 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: Or tweet us at the BA podcast. 469 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 3: Y'all. 470 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 2: But I say, don't move in together just because of 471 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: the money. You may regret it. 472 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: And honestly, what happens when he moves out. It's like 473 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: any roommate, what happens when they move out. You need 474 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: to have a backup plan. Have your own money. Please 475 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: have your own money? 476 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: Yes? Oh lord, Okay, So I think that's it for 477 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: bus Worthy. 478 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Buzzworthy out. So first, so it's now it's brown 479 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: break time, right, and me and Mandy we're not gonna 480 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: have We weren't gonna have a brown break. But then 481 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: I started thinking I actually do want to take a break. 482 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't have anything to be annoyed about. 483 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: Wait a second, and it this is not necessarily like 484 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: because I feel bad because my best friend just had 485 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: one of these, my sister just had one of these. 486 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: Everybody's having one of these because I'm in my thirty 487 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: so everyone was popping out these. I'm talking about bagels. 488 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: So I love some babies. I love my new nephew. 489 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: I love my godson who is my best friend's uh baby. 490 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: Wait, can you do it? Can you say the whole thing? 491 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: I need a brow and break from babies. 492 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: Yes, I need a brown bait from babies, not the 493 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: babies themselves, but like from like and then the baby did, 494 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: and then the baby said, and then I tell you 495 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: that the baby said and did said said, big big baby. 496 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: I need a break just because every because I guess 497 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: once you hit your thirties, everyone's like either having kids 498 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: or their kids are just starting to do interesting things. 499 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: And so my timeline is babied out. And I'm not 500 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: gonna lie. This is slightly hate because I want a baby. 501 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: I do kind of want a baby. So when I 502 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: have a baby, I will be sure to annoy everyone 503 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: with my incested baby pictures exactly Like you should see 504 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: my text now, Like you know, when you're twenty, some 505 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: of your texts are like salacious. You're like, hey, no, 506 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: my text now, anybody can read my g rated text. 507 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: It's just full of baby pictures from all my friends, 508 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: my friends and family, like and look at him smiling 509 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: and look at him laughing, and I'm like, oh. 510 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: Do you do the thing where you like some of 511 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 3: your friend's babies better than others? 512 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: No, you know what I mean, I have a couple of. 513 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: Favorites, and I was like, it's a couple of not 514 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: so favorites. I don't know how. I don't know what happens. 515 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: I just connect with some babies more than uthers. You know. 516 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: Well, you know what. The two closest babies in my life, 517 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: they're still so young. Like my best friend's baby, he's like, uh, 518 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: seven months or eight months, and he is mister gigglely. 519 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that baby is the happiest baby I've ever seen. 520 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean he's like it's blue outside, it's green outside. 521 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm happy, happy, happy. And then my sister's baby is 522 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: like the most chill cool, like that baby was born 523 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: with sunglasses on and he is so and so we're 524 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: like I helped my parents put up the Christmas tree 525 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: and my sisters and I today and so she brought 526 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: her baby and he I was just like, look at 527 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: this baby. He is so chill. No matter how much 528 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: we were like smaiya giggle laugh, He's like I'm actually chilling. 529 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys look a little silly, but Okay. 530 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: His face is just like cool as a cue humber, 531 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: and he's so adorable. 532 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: He's like, tell me a joke. 533 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: Then, yeah, he's very dry. You were like, okay, like 534 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: no crying or nothing, just looking at you like, I 535 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna have to do beds than that. I 536 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, So I love them both, and like, honestly, 537 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: I'm not really sick of, you know, babies, It's just 538 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: that I'm ready for a baby, and I'm just like, 539 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: it is it's a lot of work. Though. She's like, 540 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: are you sure you're ready because it's a lot of work. 541 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 2: I'm sure they would like a brown break from their 542 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: own babies. 543 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: They're like, you could have my baby for a little bit. 544 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: Man, I kind of want to adopt. 545 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: Oh. 546 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: I mean I wanted to mention this earlier. 547 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: I just read this really good article on Yahoo actually 548 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: not a shameless plug Yahoo parenting. It was like it 549 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: was an article about a white mother who talked about 550 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: adopting two young black boys and she already she adopted 551 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: all of her children. Then she has four kids, two 552 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: white girls and then two black boys. And I thought 553 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: it was a really good story just about like how 554 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: like a white mother's perspective of raising two black boys, 555 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: and she was so self aware. 556 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: She's like, I made sure we have black friends. I 557 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: do my best. 558 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 3: She listed off all these things that she try has 559 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: to do for them. It reminded me of my mom 560 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: a little bit, because it's got to be hard. Yeah, 561 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: my poor mom, I mean not by I grew up 562 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: in the South and she had two brown babies, two 563 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: white babies, and I'm sure people gave her weird stairs 564 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: all the time in the grocery store, you know, but 565 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: she did a great job treating us all like equals. 566 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: You know. It's so funny you mentioned this because my 567 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: sister was asking me today. I was like, oh, I'm 568 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: taping with Mandy today, and she was like, is Mandy black? 569 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: I was like, her dad's black, her mom's wife. She's like, 570 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: and it's so strange. She's like, who does she what 571 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: does she identify as? And I just thought it was 572 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: such an interesting question. And I'm like, because when I 573 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: first saw her, I thought, hmmm, I would have because 574 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. I thought maybe you were 575 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: like hispanic, but I knew there was a little something 576 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, hmm, she's got an extra curl 577 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: in her hair, and I was like, Oh, what does 578 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: Mandy identify it? I said, I don't. I think Mandy 579 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: identifies as I told her. I feel like you identify 580 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: as a woman of color. That not all the way 581 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: like you know, sister girl black, not all the way 582 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, miss Mandy white, but like I don't know, 583 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: just a woman of color. That's how that's my vibe 584 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: from you. But what do you identify us? 585 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 3: I mean, I say black and white. I don't know 586 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: if there's a I mean, this is, this is whatever. 587 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: This is a question I've been asked my entire life. 588 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 2: What are you who? 589 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: Like? 590 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: Where are you from? What's your background? People people stop 591 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: me on the street all the time like where are 592 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: you from? 593 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 3: And I'll be like America, and I'll get really annoyed. 594 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: They're like no, but like, what's your background, Oh, Georgia, Yeah, 595 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 596 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I do know. I just say I'm black 597 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: and white. 598 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: And I mean I grew up even further dividing those 599 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 3: two worlds. But the fact that they got divorced when 600 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: I was ten, so I would be black. When I 601 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: was on my dad's family, surrounded by my black aunts, 602 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: my cousins, my uncles, I love them dearly. I don't know, 603 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: I'm really grateful for my background. I feel like I've 604 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 3: got the best of both worlds in a way. 605 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: No, I mean, I guess it was just like this 606 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: random question just because, like I said, it was so random. 607 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: And she asked, what does Mandy identify us? And I 608 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: was like, I don't. I don't know. 609 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: I mean, don't all biracial people. 610 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: I was just biracial. Well, no, it depends to me. 611 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: What I've seen is that the majority of biracial people 612 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: that clearly look like once one of their segments like 613 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: identify like you know, like say, for example, I don't know, 614 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: Like if you get like somebody who's like maybe they 615 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: might be half white half black, but they look so black, 616 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: like you know, super chocolate skin, curly hair for whatever reason, 617 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: you know, then it's I mean, it's not even a 618 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: question because it's just like, well, I look so black, 619 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: so I'm not like I'm hiding. And then but you 620 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: do get some And then because I've gone to school 621 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: with one of my friends was biracial in high school. 622 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: But she like it's almost like I could tell she 623 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: was a little something, but only with like the trained 624 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: black eye, could you see a little something, because honestly, 625 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: she looked like Nicole Ritchie, like you could really not 626 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: hardly tell at all that she her father was black, 627 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: but he was like really fair and had like curly hair, 628 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: and so she she more so identified with her mom's 629 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: side like white and nothing she would herself like just 630 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: plaining white. But I don't know, it just seemed like 631 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: that's the road that she was taking, which is okay, 632 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: you know. And then you have somebody like Jesse Williams 633 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: hight is that his last name, Williams. Super cute, you know, 634 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: and so he could like totally you know, he doesn't 635 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: look like, he doesn't have super strong black features, and 636 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: even though he has looks like he has a little 637 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: something in him he could easily identify with, you know, 638 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: white if he wanted to. But it seems like he 639 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: heavily identifies with being black more so than anything, even 640 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: though of course he doesn't discount or discredit his you know, 641 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: his his white side. But I don't know, I think. 642 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: I think that it matters a whole hell of a 643 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: lot more to everybody else would identify myself as Honestly, 644 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be sassy, but I mean, I've 645 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: talked about this before, Like, I'm just I'm tired of 646 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 3: people telling me I'm not black. 647 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm tired of people telling me that I'm not this. 648 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: My hair is this? You know. 649 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: I was just I mean, people ask me, why are 650 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: you trying to make your hair natural? Like why don't 651 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: you just, you know, just diet straight, died straight, you know, 652 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 3: make it straight. I had a coworker tell me that 653 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: wasn't black because I tried to do the whip nanna 654 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 3: and I had no idea how to do it to 655 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 3: like's not black, you're not black, And I'm like, I'm. 656 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: So fucking sorry. I'm so tired of. 657 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 3: People having an opinion about what I am. And it's 658 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: fine for people to be curious, I guess, But at 659 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: the same time, it's not like I'm I don't know, 660 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 3: I guess. I'm not trying to defend someone like Rachel Dolesol. 661 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I mean, I actually have 662 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 3: the background. I have a black father and a white mother, 663 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, I'm I'm not gonna pick a lane. 664 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: Honestly, and you don't have to, you know. It's so 665 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: funny because it's like I remember, like, like, now you 666 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: can't tell by the way I speak, but when I 667 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 1: grew up in an all white, mostly Jewish town, and 668 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: so at one point, like I didn't even I didn't 669 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: know what I sounded like. I just felt like I 670 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: sounded like me, but I sounded like like a valley girl, 671 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: like I am a name Sippy, and like there was 672 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: no base in my voice, no, no, nothing, because that's 673 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: just where I grew up. And it wasn't until I 674 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: came to work in New York, which is like majority black, 675 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: and that somebody was like, why do you talk like that? 676 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: And I literally had no idea what they met And 677 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm like what, And I thought maybe because my parents 678 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: are African. I'm like, do I have an African accent 679 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: or something? Because I was born in America. But and 680 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: she's like, like, you know, why do you talk like that? Stop? 681 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: And I did not know what she meant. I was 682 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: twenty two, and I'm like, what do you mean. She's 683 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: like stop, like she thought that I was putting on 684 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: And for the longest time, people really thought that I 685 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: was forcing that accent. And I just remember being like 686 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: and then someone telling me and then used to pick 687 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: on me, like my first job in Newark, like the 688 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: black girls would pick on me and tell me that 689 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't black and I sound like a white girl, 690 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: and like they were gonna beat me up and some 691 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: other foolishness. Until one day I just snapped and she 692 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: was like something something yeah, okay, whatever, white girl. And 693 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: I said, can I ask you a question? And she 694 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: was like yeah. I said where were your parents born? 695 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: And she was like Jersey. I said what about your grandmother? 696 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: And she was like Georgia. I was like, well, what 697 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: about her grandmother? She was like I don't know. I said, 698 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: you want to know where my parents were born? She 699 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: was like where? I said, Africa? You want to know 700 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: where they're parents were born. She's like where, I said, Africa? 701 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: You want to know where they're parents are born? She said where? 702 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: I said Africa and Africa before that and Africa before that. 703 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: Let me tell you who's the blackest person in this room. 704 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: It's not you, so like, don't you know? And I 705 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: just remember telling her that that, like just because I 706 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: sound a certain way and I don't have hardly any rhythm, 707 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: this is just true for whatever reason, like that doesn't 708 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: make me less black, you know. And I'm like, I 709 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: can trace my roots back to the to back before 710 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: when my last name was one name and the village 711 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: was started by my great great great great grandfather. So 712 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, I'm good on the black side. And after 713 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: that they stopped. 714 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: I didn't even get what it is, Like, what is 715 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: the magic formula that makes you black enough? I think 716 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: what it gets down to is socioeconomic status. 717 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: And yeah, where you grew up and where you're from, 718 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: And like, I'm not even gonna lie, I'm not from 719 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: the hood. 720 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah me either. 721 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: Our family is my dad's family live in the hood. 722 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: I go there over the holidays, feel uncomfortable all the 723 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: time because I'm not of that environment, but I love 724 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: my family. 725 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like it's so crazy now because I kind 726 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: of live in the semis the hood now because this 727 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: is where Superman is born and bred. And I'm like, huh, 728 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: look what love brought me. But honestly, I don't mind. 729 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, it was such an adjustment 730 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: coming from African parents, super African at home and then 731 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: at school everything is super white and then all of 732 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: a sudden coming to a super black town and but 733 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: it's been like, I love it though. I love that 734 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: I get to see different walks of life, you know, 735 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: as it relates to me being me and me being black. 736 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: But you're right, what does black really mean? Like you know, 737 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: is it skin color? Is it like you said, is 738 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: it culture? Like if you can't whip in Nane, are 739 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: you less black? I don't know. I think they should 740 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: tell us, like what do you think being black? Neids? 741 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: I would love to hear from the people from the 742 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: folks listening at home. What do you think being black? Waves? 743 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: Sweet us at the BA podcast, Facebook us this is 744 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: what I think black mets at Brown Ambition on Facebook 745 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: and email us at. 746 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. You can read 747 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: those emails. 748 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: I'm good. I don't want to read They're gonna be 749 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: like you're not black enough. I'm like, oh no. 750 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: We're not. We're asking what do you think yourselves yet? 751 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: Like not not, we're not asking Mandy or me, but 752 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: what you just think that being black needs? 753 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: What's going to happen when my last name is all 754 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: of a sudden, like like my new name will be Santos, 755 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 3: that's my new last name. 756 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: Then you know what's going to happen? Everyone who who's Hispanic. 757 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: When they see you and you don't speak Spanish, they'recause 758 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: I think they're trying to deny your culture. 759 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: They're gonna. 760 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: I feel like people will be like, oh, you're in 761 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: Hispanish like that is like I feel like people will 762 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: be finally like, oh that makes sense. Yeah you look brown, 763 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: you're probably probably Dominican. 764 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: Yep. 765 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 3: But I love I love being ambiguous because it's allowed 766 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: me to travel and blend in everywhere I go. 767 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: I could blend it. 768 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: In Brazil, I blended in in Chili and Argentina like 769 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: I love blending in. No one asks me any questions. 770 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: That's awesome though. You're right though, because you're right, you could. 771 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: You're like, they're what they call it, uh racially ambiguous. 772 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: Actually buzz he just had a did you see that 773 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: article about celebrities you didn't know uh were like biracial 774 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. But some of them. 775 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: Look at Rashida Jones. 776 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean Quincy Jones is her father brown man, 777 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, and look at what we all knew that 778 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: what's her face was? Uh, what's her name? Mariah Carrey was, 779 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: But there were some people on there that I didn't know, 780 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: like uh, some young well some of these people are 781 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: too young for us to really care about. But yeah, wow, 782 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: that was a long brown break. Did you even do 783 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: your brown break or not? 784 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: But I can do a brown break from people asking 785 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: me what I am? Okay, that's good, how black I 786 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: am and telling me whether or not I'm black. 787 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: Yes, we could definitely take a break from that. So 788 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, don't get up the emails. I 789 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: think that we're taking over. We're taking a brown break 790 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: from that, and we're canceling that. 791 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: I really wanted this podcast to not just speak to 792 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 3: speak of women of color, you know. 793 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: That's why it's called ambition. 794 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: And I think that even though we may not like 795 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: I may not be Hispanic, and you may not be 796 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: Indian American or some other race, you know, Like I 797 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 3: feel like there are shared experiences of being other that 798 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: we can all relate to and speak from. And that's 799 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: why that was the whole sort of impetus for this podcast. 800 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: And I hope it feels inclusive and people feel like 801 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: they can get something out of it no matter where 802 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: you're from. 803 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I don't think we get like 804 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: super race happy most of the time. I mean, but 805 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: it's good to bring it up when it comes up, you. 806 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: Know, definitely, definitely, So let's. 807 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: Go right into wins when right when the two of us, 808 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: I like that song Ben, that's just random anyway. So 809 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: a win and what is a good win? 810 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: I have a win? 811 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: Okay, what well? 812 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 3: I kind of told you about this before, but this week, 813 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to talk about my current 814 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: employer too much, but this week I asked. 815 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: For a raise. 816 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: Ooh, how did it go? 817 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: I don't think my boss is listening to this, so hopefully, 818 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: you know, I think it went. It went well, and 819 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: I hadn't planned on doing it. 820 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 3: I didn't have, like, you know, I didn't have a 821 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: PowerPoint slide presentation of my you know, accomplishments for the 822 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: past year. But I just know that the cute that 823 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 3: third quarter is really an important in time to ask 824 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 3: for promotion and a raise because this is the time 825 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,479 Speaker 3: when they make all the decisions going into the last 826 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: quarter before the fiscal year ends. So from a strategy point, 827 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 3: I was like, now, we're never now or never. He 828 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 3: was very receptive, and I'm really glad I did it 829 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: because one thing he told me was, Wow, no one 830 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: else has asked me this all year, like no one else. 831 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: Has asked, and I'm like, yep, you know what. 832 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: The first thing I did was I went back to 833 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: my desk and I told the two One of my 834 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: two close work friends are both women. I was like, ladies, 835 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,479 Speaker 3: do not be afraid to ask, go ask for a raise. 836 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: And I know one of them went to ask, and 837 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure the other one's going to ask soon. 838 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: Good And I was like, there's and you know, I 839 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: didn't even feel like, oh, you know, I don't want 840 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 3: to tell anybody that this guy you know, seems open 841 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: to it. 842 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 2: You know. I wanted to share that because. 843 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: I feel like information is power, Yeah, and we should 844 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: tell each other everything we know about what it's, what 845 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 3: it takes to get to the next level. And there's 846 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 3: enough out there for everybody. So I was pretty proud 847 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 3: of that moment. I mean, who knows if it'll happen. 848 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: But still, the fact that you ask, that's huge, you know, 849 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: and you never know. 850 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 2: If you don't ask, all you do is get. 851 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: Bitter, exactly. The answers always know if you don't ask. 852 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: And I will say this, I didn't We're supposed to 853 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: have reviews and I didn't get a review this this 854 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 3: past quarter, and everyone no one got a review, and 855 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: everyone's sort of just let you know, they grumbled about it, 856 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: but no one actually did anything. And I was like, 857 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 3: I'm just going to ask my manager for a review 858 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 3: and I'm going to ask for a raise. 859 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: I'm just going to do it. 860 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 3: And I hear people complaining about, oh, my manager doesn't 861 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 3: never give me a chance to you know, have a 862 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: review or sit down with me. 863 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 2: And sometimes you just got to do it yourself. 864 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not ideal, but you got to 865 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: take the initiative sometimes if your vanager is not doing 866 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: it for you because he's not there to mean he's not, 867 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: they're not. They have so much on their plate. You know, 868 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 3: one employee maybe isn't the priority. So you have to, 869 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 3: you know, speak up for yourself in that way. 870 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: Exactly. The squeak what is it, The squeaky wheel gets 871 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: the oil. 872 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: I'm a squeaky wheel. I'm just squeaky everything. 873 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 3: And then let me tell you, I was nosing about 874 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: trying to figure everybody makes like what can I ask for? 875 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: What's possible? I ask all the awkward questions. I'm squeaky 876 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: that's good. Get in trouble one day. 877 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: No, most people are not are not squeaky. What was 878 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: I going to say? 879 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: Uh? 880 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: My win is I'm leaving tomorrow morning on my first 881 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: international speaking gig. Woo whoo. I'm excited. It's in Barbados. 882 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: It's for this this Bridle magazine called Munoluchi Bridle. They're 883 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: having a they have an annual kind of like bridal conference. 884 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 2: Can you get me any coupons or like a free 885 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 2: copy in the magazine? Oh? 886 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, true, I should I forgot about that, Like yeah. 887 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: So they asked me to come speak because they're do 888 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: this conference and all these Bridal professionals flying from all 889 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: around the world. Some are coming as far as like Africa. Yeah, 890 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: so it's dope. I guess they've done this before. 891 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: Oh I'm looking at the Instagram. 892 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 1: Ooh, I know, very fancy. And so they. 893 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 2: Were like samples back. 894 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: Well maybe get true. And she asked me to come 895 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: because she said one of the number one things I 896 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: guess the participants of the last conference that they wanted 897 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: to learn about was how do you budget as a 898 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: as a business owner? And I was like, okay, I 899 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: can come talk about that, and she was like, you know, obviously, 900 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: like the hotel, flight, food, all that stuff is free. 901 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: And I was like okay, and then she was like 902 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: you can bring anybody. Like I was like, Superman, do 903 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: you want to fly? And he was like yes, And 904 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: I said, well, let's see, like how much extra costs, 905 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: and she's like, no, it'd be no additional cost for him. 906 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: He just have to get his flight. So then I 907 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: checked to see I said, you know, he has a 908 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: credit card. I said, well, let's see between my points 909 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: and your credit card if we have enough points to 910 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: get a free flight. And we did, so, I know what, 911 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: five days, four nights in like a resort in Barbados 912 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: for free. So I'm super excited and just I know 913 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: we're just gonna have a ton of fun and like 914 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 1: literally it's just straight vacation for him. And I only 915 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: speak one hour on one day, so the rest is 916 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: just pure vacation. 917 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: Holy crap. And they give you five days. That's awesome. 918 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 919 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I'm looking at their instagram right now. 920 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: That's why I got quiet. It's really pretty stuff. 921 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm really excited about them. 922 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 3: Are you talking about how to save and budget while 923 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 3: you're with the business while you're playing a wedding. 924 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about because these are all bridal professionals, 925 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: So I'm more so talking about how do you oh yeah, 926 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: how do you save? Or really just how do you 927 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: budget when you're when you have an irregular income? You know? 928 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: So that's what I would, you know, be talking because 929 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: everybody kind of struggles with that, especially at the beginning. 930 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: And you know, so I was like, you know what, 931 00:38:53,960 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: I know I did well? How believe this is the 932 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: end of BA podcasts. We are signing off. I still 933 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: have packing to do. I just looking at my toes, like, yikes, 934 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: I can't go to Barbados with these toes looking like this. Y'all. 935 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: I know I have so much to do, but you 936 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: know what, I'm excited and I can't wait to I 937 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: would say get a tan, but I mean I was 938 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: born with these sands, so you know, God did it? 939 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 2: Builtin's on screen, That's what I call it. Yep, have 940 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: so much fun. I'm so excited for you. 941 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait too. Superman's like, are you gonna bring 942 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: your computer? I'm like, who are you talking to? Of course? 943 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: Oh Vaca't you don't stop work? I mean, I'm not 944 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: going to work extra extra like I normally do. But 945 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: I have things to. 946 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 2: Do, right, you know, I have a lot of fun. 947 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: All right. Well, we will see you guys next week. 948 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed and keep in contact with us. 949 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: Tweete while I'm away. 950 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 2: What's your Twitter? 951 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: Oh? The Budgetnista and Mandy Mandy woodroff Right, Mandy. 952 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 2: With I at Mandy Woodward with an I and at 953 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 2: the BA podcast. You left hearing from you guys.