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Speaker 1: The Elvis DA Ran after party.
Speaker 3: Hosts of the podcast give It a Chance, Casey Jose
Speaker 3: and Kevin Debien a here, hey guys, this is why
Speaker 3: we love your podcast. It's about music, and a lot
Speaker 3: of the music it's about it's like music we detest.
Speaker 2: And so whose idea was? It reminded us from last
Speaker 2: time you were here, where did you come from? And
Speaker 2: why are you doing this?
Speaker 4: It was my idea, and I wanted to put some
Speaker 4: positive into the world. So I would take these songs
Speaker 4: that people you know, hate on paper and then give
Speaker 4: it a chance.
Speaker 5: Right, we need some.
Speaker 4: Positivity, We need to to have an open mind in
Speaker 4: this world. So we're like, let's listen to some of
Speaker 4: these songs and then give it a chance.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think also part of it that balances it
Speaker 6: is that they're like hugely successful songs, yeah that are
Speaker 6: just kind of also I don't know, cheesy or eaten
Speaker 6: to death or whatever, and so we're trying to find
Speaker 6: like another thing in them.
Speaker 4: And it happens like recently I put on Achy Breaky Heart,
Speaker 4: which is like we're not like country guys, but we
Speaker 4: like the roots of country and this is like very
Speaker 4: pop country in like early nineties, and I thought I
Speaker 4: was gonna hate it, and we ended up being like
Speaker 4: finding so much positive in it, and it's really it's
Speaker 4: really fun.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, such as life. You know, you can
Speaker 3: find a painting, you can find a play or a
Speaker 3: TV show that you just don't get. Example, but if
Speaker 3: you like sit with it for a second and like
Speaker 3: think it through, Like where were they coming from when
Speaker 3: they've created this art? Okay, it has meaning, it has
Speaker 3: life now, so this is what you're doing. I think
Speaker 3: last of you guys are here. We use a great
Speaker 3: example because it's a big hated song on our show
Speaker 3: Barbie Girl.
Speaker 5: That's the best song ever. Yeah, I see it.
Speaker 6: Subjective difference of opinions ever.
Speaker 4: Well, something we do like to do is we call
Speaker 4: it an anti chancy, and that means like we allow
Speaker 4: ourselves to talk a little smack about it, find things
Speaker 4: we don't like about it. And so in that genre,
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was, it was all these
Speaker 4: like Eastern European guys making it and they'd put themselves
Speaker 4: on the tracks.
Speaker 5: So instead of just having like a beautiful singer.
Speaker 4: They'd also be like a little Barbie.
Speaker 5: It's like they talk talk talk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like they all had that one guy that was
Speaker 4: like low voice producer that was like, I'm also going
Speaker 4: to sing on the They have to justify their.
Speaker 2: Existence and agociate that totally.
Speaker 3: See, you find the art form is truly truly at
Speaker 3: an A plus at that point.
Speaker 7: I love when creators have to insert themselves into the project.
Speaker 7: I think it's so funny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mustard on a beat. Yeah, I actually girl like.
Speaker 4: I mean that era was probably the original, like producer
Speaker 4: tag like the first people to do that.
Speaker 2: So this is what the podcast is all about.
Speaker 3: Again, Casey Jose and Kevin Devine give it a chance
Speaker 3: second season. Boom, it's now time for second season. You
Speaker 3: lasted to an entire first serial.
Speaker 4: We just kept going to like what number should we
Speaker 4: like kind of stop at and we just were having
Speaker 4: so much fun making these episodes that we were like,
Speaker 4: all right, let's let's stop here and then do a
Speaker 4: new season and think about what kind of songs we want.
Speaker 4: And we have some really great songs coming up for
Speaker 4: season two. I Mentionednikey Breaky Heart. Yeah, we've got a
Speaker 4: lot and we like to do different genres. So we'll
Speaker 4: do some dance or pop, we'll do some metal, we'll
Speaker 4: do some country.
Speaker 2: O this thing that's right, Oh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. I think it was Gooba Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, two White Boys not from the Hood.
Speaker 5: No has its.
Speaker 2: Street crad Okay, so so uh okay Tosh six go okay.
Speaker 4: So what I liked about that chorus and it's sometimes
Speaker 4: when things are so simple, it's it's art again. And
Speaker 4: so he has that line that's are you dumb? Stupid
Speaker 4: or dumb? And I just think that's so effective, and
Speaker 4: I just think, like that's catchy, Like it's so simple,
Speaker 4: and it's like it makes me laugh, and I think
Speaker 4: he knows what he's doing. And so that self awareness
Speaker 4: or that awareness is something that I give points to.
Speaker 5: I give that a chance totally.
Speaker 6: And he's also on a continuum. It's punk rock. It's
Speaker 6: like so in your face, and that's like an evolutionary thing.
Speaker 6: Every generation needs its own iteration of that. And this
Speaker 6: is like colorful, bracing and like I'm a forty five
Speaker 6: year old dude from Bayridge and Staten Island, as you said,
Speaker 6: I'm not necessarily supposed to like get that right away.
Speaker 6: But I get where it comes from, and I think,
Speaker 6: you know, if I was a kid, i'd be like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, this is intense, and well, maybe it's
Speaker 6: best you're not from there.
Speaker 2: That's also true, you're from a different from a different filter.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah.
Speaker 4: I think about my dad and how like any like
Speaker 4: any rap I would put on, whether it be like
Speaker 4: will Smith as like tame as Possible or or a hotel,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but he would go, oh, this is
Speaker 4: rap crap right Like. I was always like this. So
Speaker 4: I was like, Dad, give it a chance. And so
Speaker 4: I'm trying to be a dad that gives it a chance.
Speaker 6: Is your dad gonna come on the pod with us?
Speaker 4: He will, Yeah, he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll drop some beats. Actually,
Speaker 4: let me make a song for it.
Speaker 6: We'll give him a chance.
Speaker 2: So this is what the podcast is all about.
Speaker 3: It's taking these songs that probably ignored by many because
Speaker 3: they can't stand them, and talk about them. I mean, okay,
Speaker 3: give me an example of what you would want on
Speaker 3: the podcast.
Speaker 5: Yeah, gone, okay.
Speaker 7: So Creed in general makes me insane, and Creed has
Speaker 7: had a comeback. Yeah, talk to me about Higher, because
Speaker 7: that song used to make me want to do bad things.
Speaker 6: Sure, it still does that.
Speaker 5: We did, we did hold me Now.
Speaker 4: It's funny though, when you listen to it with like
Speaker 4: open years, because there's this thing.
Speaker 6: That's there.
Speaker 4: It is there, it is, And so we listen and
Speaker 4: you find like a weird chord where you're like, wow,
Speaker 4: that's like a jazzy chord in Creed. And so it's
Speaker 4: funny when you when you when you come at it
Speaker 4: something with open eyes and ears that you find things
Speaker 4: you like and that song is really catching higher.
Speaker 6: No, it's not.
Speaker 5: It's amazing that the like gen Z is like find
Speaker 5: refinding Creed. Right.
Speaker 2: I like the sound of Creed.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, wow, real.
Speaker 4: Well, I like going into lyrics, right, And so we
Speaker 4: do a lot of talk about O Town Liquid dreams.
Speaker 5: Okay, we've never done that. You know you want to
Speaker 5: drop a beat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, O Town Liquid dreams because I think you know
Speaker 4: what those liquid dreams are all about.
Speaker 2: I never put two and two together.
Speaker 5: I know that's the thing. It's it's it's really.
Speaker 4: Again because yeah, because it's I dream about a girl
Speaker 4: that's a mix of you know, Destiny's Child, just a
Speaker 4: little bit Madonna's wild style, with Janet Jackson's or something
Speaker 4: like that, right, and it's and he will they are
Speaker 4: describing like the perfect woman and by using all these
Speaker 4: contemporaries at the time and then dreaming about the way
Speaker 4: they look liquid but.
Speaker 6: That that's kind of also. I mean, listen, we've talked
Speaker 6: about this a lot on the show too. Something you
Speaker 6: hear that makes you think of the better version of
Speaker 6: the thing you're listening to that comes up a lot.
Speaker 6: Do you remember Salt and Pepper? There was in What
Speaker 6: a Man they like listed all the like my man's
Speaker 6: smooth like Barry and his voice, got bass, a body
Speaker 6: like Arnold with a Denzel face anyway, and they got
Speaker 6: they build their man for liquid dreams for them.
Speaker 2: Well go so back to liquid dreams.
Speaker 3: They're they're fantasizing, These boys are fantasizing about these women
Speaker 3: who are much much older and now Stacy, they're much
Speaker 3: much older. I mean, it's it's it's like drying up dreams.
Speaker 3: This like dusty dust dream rusty, crusty.
Speaker 2: Even this is one that that boggled my mind for years.
Speaker 6: How was Into the Night by Benny mardonez ever a
Speaker 6: smash hit?
Speaker 3: Have you guys covered this yet not yet, she's just
Speaker 3: sixteen years old.
Speaker 2: Were alone. They said, he's absolute in the video.
Speaker 6: He's literally with an underage girl, a six year old girl.
Speaker 2: We got it. We got it. So you could go
Speaker 2: on and on and you will. We you talked about
Speaker 2: Benny Mardona's into the definitely, but.
Speaker 6: We have talked about this subject before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cold outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a lot of predators in music.
Speaker 5: Well it started with you. She was just seventeen, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it was that that era was always kind
Speaker 4: of looking towards like younger, younger.
Speaker 6: And not just that like you know, I feel like Winger.
Speaker 6: They had a song called seventeen that was like a
Speaker 6: huge top twenty sing We all forgot about Winger go
Speaker 6: back to.
Speaker 7: You seventeen when they wrote it.
Speaker 6: No, they were like twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever do songs that don't have lyrics
Speaker 1: like that dumb sandstorm stupid song.
Speaker 2: Oh drude, yes, just crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, we did a Beatles song that was like Revolution
Speaker 4: number nine, which was like we were taking the Beatles
Speaker 4: on and we were trying this like experimental one and
Speaker 4: putting ourselves in that mindset.
Speaker 5: But it's not a song that you want to just
Speaker 5: throw on.
Speaker 6: No, no, no no. I mean it's an interesting experiment, but
Speaker 6: it's nine minutes of tape loops or whatever. But Animal
Speaker 6: Collective we did too, which has like sort of nonsense
Speaker 6: lyrics and spaces.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we wanted to do one of these like
Speaker 4: art like art forward bands that you know. To be honest,
Speaker 4: I really like that band and they're like kind of
Speaker 4: more under the radar. We don't want to just you know.
Speaker 6: Like Rico Suave, and we don't want to just do hits.
Speaker 4: We want to do songs that, like, you know, I
Speaker 4: might have some niche following that we want to you know,
Speaker 4: give some light to but also tear down a little
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 3: I got one for you, and I know that this
Speaker 3: one over here. Gandhi is a big fan this one.
Speaker 3: Creed stars are blind by Paris Hilton in the new
Speaker 3: season of their podcast Give It a Chance. I know
Speaker 3: it's featured.
Speaker 4: Yes, I had wanted to do that one for a while,
Speaker 4: and the problem was with that one for me was
Speaker 4: I also like it. So sometimes it's like I want
Speaker 4: to just put on the chopping block something that I
Speaker 4: think maybe my taste you know, might not be that great,
Speaker 4: So let me just try this and see what Kevin thinks.
Speaker 4: Since I know the world, it's like sometimes we'll hate
Speaker 4: on that song and you like it, Kevin or.
Speaker 6: Not a positive. I felt like more positive than negative
Speaker 6: on it. There was more in it than I thought
Speaker 6: there was going to be. I'll say that I love
Speaker 6: it was not like a contemptible. It wasn't like a
Speaker 6: song you're like, oh I hate this. It was like, well,
Speaker 6: except for you.
Speaker 4: The only reason somebody might hate it is because they
Speaker 4: found out Paris Hilton.
Speaker 6: Well that's we talked a lot about that, of course,
Speaker 6: like how that can obscure being able to hear the thing,
Speaker 6: the associations with the person. You know, it's a song
Speaker 6: totally or even further back it's high as high?
Speaker 7: Or have you guys thought about doing a Christmas version
Speaker 7: of this?
Speaker 5: Yeah? We did a Christmas song? We did?
Speaker 6: Didn't we do a Christmas song? Here? Did we did?
Speaker 4: We did your like that song that you that like
Speaker 4: it discussed the viral video song almost thing that you
Speaker 4: did Christmas?
Speaker 2: Shoot, we don't agree. That's just the worst song ever.
Speaker 5: We did do a Christmas song?
Speaker 6: Do they know it's Christmas time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we did about that one, okay, because.
Speaker 2: When that came out they meant, well, yeah, and.
Speaker 6: We did talk about that. We did talk about that.
Speaker 5: And sometimes it's yucky, right, like it has.
Speaker 6: Aged into kind of like you know White Savior. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: like white rock Star person that's like we know what
Speaker 6: to do with these.
Speaker 5: I think want to save the world exactly.
Speaker 6: It's a freaking child.
Speaker 2: It's Russell brand I think.
Speaker 4: I think I'll get all my mates and will save
Speaker 4: the world with us. One song, right, and that what
Speaker 4: was the one that came before it?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: We are the world?
Speaker 5: We are the world? And then remember I.
Speaker 4: Remember the one that like recently, like was it in
Speaker 4: COVID where like all those celebrities, you.
Speaker 6: Know that what I will give us credit as a
Speaker 6: species for some evolution that got like savage di minuty.
Speaker 3: They were like, yeah, I'm something serious. But back to uh,
Speaker 3: do the much Christmas? The entrants know they don't know
Speaker 3: what Christmas and a lot of these countries they don't
Speaker 3: really know.
Speaker 5: I don't think they care.
Speaker 2: They don't care.
Speaker 6: Do they care it's Christmas? Christmas?
Speaker 5: Care?
Speaker 6: We did like we did, like Phil Collins drums on
Speaker 6: the song.
Speaker 5: Yea, we found some positive Yeah, yeah, turn around.
Speaker 6: At one point we were like that was cool.
Speaker 3: So these are the conversations you have with your friends,
Speaker 3: especially maybe after hitting an edible sitting around just like
Speaker 3: just like Casey and Kevin, do give it a chance.
Speaker 3: It is second season out right, now is the whole
Speaker 3: season out?
Speaker 4: No, we're not dropping, We're not dropping at all. We're
Speaker 4: doing one at a time. We're doing Yeah, maybe we'll
Speaker 4: do the stranger things. We'll do four at a time
Speaker 4: and make you.
Speaker 5: Wait for more and then four now, yeah, we we have.
Speaker 4: We were the holidays, get so busy, we're gonna drop
Speaker 4: a few episodes, take a small little break, and then
Speaker 4: drop some more.
Speaker 5: So maybe we are doing that.
Speaker 2: You're still having fun doing it obviously you're yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was nervous. I was like, are we gonna
Speaker 5: run out?
Speaker 4: And I just keep finding not only songs, but just
Speaker 4: different ways to even think about these songs. And you know,
Speaker 4: with the pair Hilton, when we were kind of talking
Speaker 4: about her career and the hate that someone like a
Speaker 4: celebrity would get and you know, born into this like
Speaker 4: rich family, and so it's fun to talk about just
Speaker 4: the icon themselves and.
Speaker 6: The stuff around the song sometimes is as interesting as
Speaker 6: the song itself, either positive ort negative. You know, there's
Speaker 6: lots of there's just.
Speaker 2: Two guys sitting on talking you actually investigate you actually, well,
Speaker 2: he's the research.
Speaker 4: But you know that is a compliment that I've been
Speaker 4: given from a friend who was like, I really like that.
Speaker 4: Your podcast isn't just like two guys just talking. It's
Speaker 4: it's got a thesis and it's got a statement. And
Speaker 4: you follow this threat and of course we go on tangents.
Speaker 4: We're gonna say, we're gonna I always I when I
Speaker 4: described it originally to Kevin at what I want to do,
Speaker 4: you know, I call it like a trampoline where it's
Speaker 4: like we could always land back on the trampoline, which
Speaker 4: is the show, and we could jump up and talk
Speaker 4: about other things like within the world of Limp Biscuit
Speaker 4: and like you know, new metal, but then come.
Speaker 5: Back down to the song and it's it's it's fun totally.
Speaker 6: And this might sound cheesy, but in truth, after we
Speaker 6: every episode, one of us text the other and so
Speaker 6: fun like.
Speaker 1: It's still it's still you guys, do you still like
Speaker 1: each other?
Speaker 2: Love?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: Well, actually I love doing it. Because I tell you,
Speaker 3: podcasts are not lucrative at all. So they show up
Speaker 3: and they show up and they put them together.
Speaker 7: In all of this, have you guys found a song
Speaker 7: that you gave a chance and we're like, you know what,
Speaker 7: that was not worth giving a chance?
Speaker 6: Actually, oh, for sure, it's always worth giving it the chance.
Speaker 6: But there's definitely ones that you're like, oh no, this
Speaker 6: is just out and out dog, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got to think of which ones, because
Speaker 4: it's often that I actually leave thinking, oh that was
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 5: That was a little bit better than I thought.
Speaker 4: But I think you know, things like Metallica sane Anger
Speaker 4: Oh yeah right, which is like.
Speaker 5: I'm madly in anger with you, sing that one more time,
Speaker 5: I'm madly in anger with you, Like in love. That's
Speaker 5: a Metallica song. I was like, you know that's deep.
Speaker 6: Is that also where he says that Reabe that's another
Speaker 6: one on that record? I can't remember now. My lifestyle
Speaker 6: informs my death style. This lyricist awesome more music like
Speaker 6: that top Headfield.
Speaker 5: It is you have a fight with Alex I want
Speaker 5: you to.
Speaker 3: Say maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, he would understand he's from
Speaker 3: Staten Island.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, give it a chance.
Speaker 3: Host of the podcast Casey jose and Kevin Devine, thank
Speaker 3: you for coming in and thanks for season two.
Speaker 2: Yeo, thank you, thank you for the opportunity, Yes.
Speaker 5: For having us.
Speaker 6: It's awesome.
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