1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bechler Happy Hour. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: We are back with another round of his story and 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: we have this week we are going to have Kim 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: and Jack on in. Currently, right now we have Kim here, So, Kim, 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: welcome to Bechler Happy Hours. 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: The Mansion Man himself. 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: So, Kim, do people come up to you on the 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: street singing the Mansion Men. 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: They haven't sung it to me yet, but they have 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: mentioned it when they've approached me, and so it's nice 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: to be acknowledged for having offered that to the Bachelor Nation. Folks. 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 4: It's become like the anthem of your season, like the 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 4: theme song. And it was really impressive when you and 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: Guy sung it to Joan in the episode. But then, 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: how did it feel seeing at the Mentell all the 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: big performance. 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: Oh, that was such a shock to see the Gay 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 3: Men's Chorus from La come out and form ranks like 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 3: a military group and sing that song, the entire song, 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: and they did it so well. I was more than surprised, 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: it was. It was a shock, a very pleasant shot. 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: Have you have you always written songs? Is that something 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: that you'd like to know I'm. 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: Not a songwriter. I kind of like poetry, and I 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: tend to be creative anyway, but I'm not musical and 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm not musically talented, although I could whistle really well 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: but didn't have a chance to display that on the show. 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: But I'm not really musical. I do write poetry once 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: in a while, and then I try to find a 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: little tune that fits the words, and once I get 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: the tune, and then I'm trying to fit more words 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: to the tune. And anyway, it worked out really well. 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: I was just I'm glad it worked out as well 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: as it did. And it was just intended to be 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: a little fun thing, a way to pass the time, 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: something to do in the mansion, And got all those 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: hours there with with not a lot to do when 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: you don't have a date a date with Joan, and 40 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: so I filled the time with just amusing myself and 41 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: and I wanted to showcase the experience of the guys 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: in the mansion, because I don't think that gets told 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: all that well. 44 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like you can't say that you're 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: not musical anymore though, because you really did write an 46 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 4: entire song that was performed. 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: By millions of people. People know that song. 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a hit. 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: First, I have a hit. The show has a hit. 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: The show, the show owns the song. 51 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: I wonder if the men that didn't want to perform 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: it with you in the mansion are regretting it now. 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: I don't think they're regretting it. But it was nice 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: to see him join in at the mentel hall and 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: they all, I mean they were high five and me. 56 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: They were They were really happy for me, and I 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: think they were really happy that the you know, the 58 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: song got some extreme publicity. And it's their story. It 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: is their story. It's the story of all of us 60 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: that got to live in the mansion for a few days. 61 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: Or you are a retired Navy captain. 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: That's correct, And how long tired navy captain? 63 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: How long did you do that for? 64 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: I was on active duty for twenty seven and a 65 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: half years. 66 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 5: Wow. 67 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: What was your favorite part about that job? 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 3: Oh? Gosh, I had a lot of favorite parts. What 69 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: mattered most to me? I mean, I had a couple 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: of great jobs. And when you're captain of a destroyer, 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: it doesn't get any better than that in terms of 72 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: your career. To captain a ship much like John Paul 73 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: Jones did two hundred and fifty years ago. It's the same, 74 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: it's very much the same. But what I got the 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: most satisfaction out of as a as a fairly senior 76 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: leader when I was in a position of authority, was 77 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: having the opportunity to influence the careers of younger folks, 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: of the people coming up and never underestimate the impact 79 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: of what you say or do when you're a senior 80 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: leader and how that affects younger people. And my definition 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: of leadership is facilitating the success of those you lead. 82 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: And that's what I'm most proud of having done in 83 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: my Navy career is I grew a lot of really 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: great leaders for our navy and our nation. I felt 85 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: good about that. I don't miss being in the Navy. 86 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: I do miss and maybe it came across on the 87 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: show occasionally too. I do miss some of the discipline 88 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: and organization and and the you know, how quickly people 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: respond to you when you when you're in a position 90 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: of authority and you give an order and things just happen, 91 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: and so I miss that. But I don't miss the Navy. 92 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: The Navy was part of my life. It ended that 93 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: you know, my navy time ended twenty one years ago. 94 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: Now I've been retired for twenty one years, and I'm 95 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: about looking you know, looking forward, looking ahead, and not 96 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: looking back. I have great memories and great shipmates that 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: I served with that I'm still real good friends with. 98 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: But the focus needs to be on the future. And 99 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: so that's what I'm That's kind of what drove me 100 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: to be on the show, is look into the future. 101 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, ask so this, So these past twenty one years, 102 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: do you have are you just retired? Do you have 103 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: another job? What do you what do you what have 104 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: you been up to? 105 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: Right? So I'm not I'm not working now. I retired, 106 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: well three and a half years ago, retired, retired. But 107 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: nobody's able to just retire right out of the military. 108 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: You don't make that much money in retirement, and so 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: almost everybody has to get a job, and I did. 110 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: I did a couple of different things for a few years. 111 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: Spent the last eleven of my working years with a 112 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: major manufact era space manufacturing company in the Pacific Northwest. 113 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: I'll mention the name, but most people know who that is. 114 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: And I retired from there three and a half years ago. 115 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: And now I am fully retired, and it's such a 116 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: great job being retired. 117 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: You like it, I love it. 118 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: I love it. And the best part of being retired 119 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: is having the time and the means to say yes 120 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 3: to things that you had to kind of put on 121 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: hold when you were when you were working. And the 122 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: thing you had to put on hold most that matters 123 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: most to me is foregoing opportunities to visit with friends 124 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: and family and shipmates all over the country. And so 125 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: for the last three and a half years, that's how 126 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: I spend most of my retired time as I travel 127 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: cross country and stop and see family, friends, shipmates that 128 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: I had to, you know, forego seeing for all those 129 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: years that I was working. And now I got a 130 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: whole bunch of new new friends to go visit to 131 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: my mansion men. 132 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: All over You do you should just sell your house 133 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: and travel twenty four to seven at this rate, You've 134 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: got a lot of people to do that. 135 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: I have given that some some thoughts. 136 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Or do you work out? Do you work out every day? 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you're sixty nine, you look incredible. 138 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: Well, I just had my seventieth birthday two months ago, 139 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: so I'm seventy now seven, I'm pretty pretty proud to 140 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 3: get to that big Now it's a big number. 141 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 5: Seven. 142 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: You do not you do not like seventy all. 143 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: I appreciate that very much. I don't go to a gym. 144 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: I do a lot of isometric stuff. I'm doing a 145 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: lot of push ups every day, and I walk or 146 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: run or jog or do something. I'm just staying active. 147 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: Amaze you amazing how many calories you can burn gardening. 148 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: And so I do a lot of different things, but 149 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't work out for workouts sake. 150 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: Okay to say, how did you wind up on the 151 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: Golden bats are at? 152 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? Very good question. So last year in October, the 153 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor was on. I didn't watch it. The only 154 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: reason I even knew anything about the show was because 155 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: they were putting ads during the college football games I 156 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: was watching, and so the trailers were showing up, and 157 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: so I was aware there was a show, but I 158 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: wasn't all that interested in watching it. And I read 159 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: an article online about one of the cast members leaving 160 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: the show early, and I thought, well, that's interesting. That 161 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: told me two things about the show. One, maybe the 162 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: people on the reality TV show are real people. I 163 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: wasn't really sure about that, but they're real people. And 164 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: the other thing it said was a lot about jones character. 165 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: She's the one that left to take care of her 166 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: to be with her daughter in a tough time, and 167 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: to forego fame, fortune and the chance of love to 168 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: to take care of a family member. Said a lot 169 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: about the person she was. And so two weeks later 170 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 3: there was another article that said Joan was trying to 171 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: get back on the show and she couldn't. And at 172 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: the bottom of that article was the opportunity to apply 173 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: to be on a future version of the show, either 174 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: a Golden Bachelor or Golden Bachelorette. So I build out 175 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 3: the application. 176 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: Wow, interesting, Yeah, you're the first guy to do that. 177 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: And you didn't watch, ever watch the show prior. 178 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: I did not watch any of the Golden Bachelor series 179 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: until two days before I flew to la to start 180 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: filming the Golden Bachelorette. And I wanted to get a 181 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: better idea what to expect, and I wanted it fresh 182 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: in my mind. So I binge watched it. 183 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: Got it, And so you really were you really went 184 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: on the show for Joan? 185 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: Well, I want on the show for Joan. 186 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 5: I knew. 187 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: I didn't know when that Joan was going to be 188 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelorette until well into the casting process. But 189 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: I went on the show in all honesty for three reasons, 190 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: none of which were I didn't have the expectation that 191 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: I was actually going to fall in love with the 192 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: Golden Bachelorette in a short period of time like that, 193 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: there's a lot of other guys competing. The odds just 194 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: aren't there, So I didn't set that as a as 195 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 3: an expectation. It would have been great if it happened, 196 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: but I didn't have that as an expectation. The expectations 197 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: I did have were that I wanted the adventure. You know, 198 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: I may be retired and I may be old, but 199 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that you're not interested in adventure and 200 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: being on a TV show like that would be an adventurous, fun, 201 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 3: interesting thing to do, and so I did it for 202 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: that reason. I did it because if all my friend's family, 203 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 3: anybody who ever has met me would get such a 204 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: kick out of seeing me on TV because it's so 205 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: out of character for me, you know, retired Davy cap 206 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: and guy, to go and be on a reality TV show. 207 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 3: So I knew that they would have an awful lot 208 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: of fun. I'd bring a lot of smiles to a 209 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: lot of faces if I did it and actually showed 210 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: up on TV. The third reason I did the show, 211 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: and the most important one, it really has to do 212 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: with my late wife, Mary died seven years ago. Before 213 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: she died, she asked that her cancer story be shared 214 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: with as many women as possible. And because it's a 215 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: story of late detection, misdiagnosis, late treatment, all of which 216 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: probably shortened her life, and so she wanted her story 217 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: told that. You know, women get a second opinion, don't 218 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: necessarily trust the first doctor, get another one to look 219 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: at it, make sure you listened, to be in tune 220 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: with your body, all the important things that women need 221 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: to know. She had a very in cancer, which is 222 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: a very unforgiving cancer when it's found late. So I thought, well, 223 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: if I did on the TV show, I might get 224 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: a chance to share Mary's story on TV. Well, I 225 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 3: didn't get that opportunity, but I figured if I at 226 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: least make it a couple three episodes, then there will 227 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: be people who want to get to know more about me, 228 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: and they'll go to my website, they'll go to Facebook, 229 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: They'll go to Instagram, and they will learn Mary's story. 230 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: And all three of those expectations I've laid out, they've 231 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: all happened in a wonderful way. And Mary's story has 232 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: been shared with the right audience. Ninety percent of my fans, 233 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: I guess are women, and they've been very appreciative of 234 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: the story I shared on Instagram about my life. 235 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: Was it meaningful to be able to connect with Joan 236 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: and the other men there that had also experienced losing 237 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 4: a spouse? 238 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, good, good question. The best part of being on 239 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: the show is the was the opportunity to connect with 240 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: people in a similar circumstance. And it isn't just those 241 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: that were widowers and and Joan of course as a widow, 242 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: but even the single guys that were that had been divorced. 243 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: I have a lot of male friends my age, they're 244 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: all married, and so the TV show The Golden Bachelorette 245 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: gave me the opportunity to to talk with visit with 246 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: share stories with people in my same circumstance. And I 247 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: hadn't had that opportunity, and it's it was. It was 248 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: a wonderful experience. Uh And and one of the things 249 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: that bonded us us together and we're still good friends. 250 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: How do you think that's impacted your life today and 251 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: how you live? 252 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: I have you can never have too many friends, and 253 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: having a cadre of uh, you know, fraternal brothers who 254 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: have had the same experiences I've had and they're the 255 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: same age group is me, and and that that has 256 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: enriched my life. Their stories have enriched my life. Getting 257 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: to know these guys. Spending twelve hours a day, about 258 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day for several days with these guys, 259 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: you built real close bonds. And that's one of the 260 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: things that that I miss about being in the Navy 261 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: is how close you get with the people that you 262 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: go to see with and experience challenging things with. All 263 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: of us guys in the mansion experienced the same adventure 264 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: and had similar backgrounds, and so those friendships are enriching 265 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: and they're there and they're long lasting. I mean, we've 266 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: got a we've got a group. Tech's been going on 267 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: all day to day. 268 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: Ye birthday, rights birthday. 269 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: We're all wishing him well. He's only sixty two, though 270 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: he still a kid, still a young guy. 271 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: During your time on the show, what was your relationship. 272 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Like with Joan, it was brief. 273 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: I didn't get that I didn't get that much time 274 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: with Joan. But the time that we did have to 275 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: sit together and chat together, I felt that we did 276 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: connect over the things that we haven't come the fact 277 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: that we both lost our spouses at a young age, 278 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: you know, much younger and much earlier than we ever 279 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: thought would be the case, both to cancer, her husband 280 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: to pancreatic cancer, my wife to a variant cancer. But 281 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: they were both in their fifties, you know when they died, 282 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: or he might have been sixty, but way too early. 283 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: I mean, you don't. That's not something you expect is 284 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: going to happen. You know, you expect you're going to 285 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: have another twenty years together with this person. And so 286 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 3: we connected on that basis. Family is awfully important to 287 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: both of us, and so she's got children and grandchildren. 288 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: She has four children, I have four children. She's got 289 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: three grandchildren. I've got four grandchildren. We both have degrees 290 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: in computer science. What are the odds that two people 291 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: our age have degrees in computer science? Joan is a 292 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: very smart woman. In addition to being beautiful and personal, 293 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: she's she's a very bright lady, and so we had 294 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: we had a lot of things to connect with and 295 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: I hope we'll continue to be friends. She reached out 296 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: after the last show and shared her email and phone 297 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: number with me, and and I hope we get a 298 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: chance to visit together again. Sometimes. 299 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: What has are you? Are you ready to date? Are 300 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: you dating? What's dating life like for you now? 301 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? A good question. Yes, I'm I'm ready to date. 302 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: I didn't date at all for five and a half 303 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: years after Mary passed away. It just I don't know. 304 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: I just wasn't that interested in doing and that, plus 305 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: I was still working and busy. And then once I 306 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 3: retired and made my first cross country vacation trip driving, 307 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: I realized and did some overseas travel, I realized how 308 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: much more enjoyable it would be to have a romantic 309 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: companion with me. And so I've dated a little bit. 310 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: I am dating now, but there's no I'm not in 311 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 3: a relationship at this point, and so I'm still I'm 312 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: still dating. Was not a lot, a little bit here 313 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 3: and there. 314 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: What's the ideal situation or woman for you and your 315 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: life currently? What are you looking for? 316 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: I'm looking for someone who is independent, someone who doesn't 317 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: need a guy, need someone, but wants someone because I 318 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: feel the same way. I'm not looking to to I 319 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: don't have a need that I need filled. I want 320 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: to be with somebody. It's not that I need to 321 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: be with somebody. I would like to have someone to 322 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: be with, and I would hope that person would feel 323 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: the same independent. I'm not looking for somebody who wants 324 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: to be somebody else's dependent, So I like an independent person. 325 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: I think I would have more in common with a 326 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 3: with a widow. But you know, I think it would 327 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: take a very special woman who's not a widow divorce 328 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: a to accept the fact that if she were to 329 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: date me seriously and get serious with me, she'd have 330 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: to appreciate that I'm still in love with my late wife, 331 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: because you don't. There's a big difference between being divorced 332 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: and losing your spouse. But there are very you know, 333 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a you know, very special women out 334 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: there who are divorced who can appreciate that and still 335 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: uh and respect that and honor it. 336 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: Are there any women from the Golden Bachelor that have 337 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: caught your eye? 338 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: Yes, But I haven't had the opportunity yet to meet 339 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: with them. I uh, that hasn't happened. As specific person 340 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: I would would like to meet and talk with is Nancy. 341 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: I'd like very much. 342 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: We like Nancy, Yeah, well I would. 343 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: She seems awfully nice. I didn't know very much about 344 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: her until she actually appeared on a couple of the 345 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: last episodes of our show as part of Joan's support network, 346 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 3: and a very important part it was. And so I 347 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: got a chance to see how you know, the kind 348 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: of person she is. And in addition to being beautiful, 349 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: she she impressed me with her her sensitivity to Joan 350 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: and her supportive nature and and yeah, I mean she. 351 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: I don't know what her marital status was, you know, 352 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: coming into the show, I had no idea, but I'd 353 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: like to learn more about her. And I haven't Nancy. 354 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: Nancy single, Nancy single, So you should. 355 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: You should reach out last time, last time we spoke, Nancy, 356 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 4: she was single, she was dating, she was single. 357 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: Well, then we have that in common. I don't know, 358 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: maybe you can fight. I don't know how to get 359 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: in touch with her, but I was hoping the show 360 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: would help facilitate that, but I haven't. That hasn't happened. Yet, 361 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: So I'll figure it out. 362 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: To ask Joan for her number. 363 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: That is a great idea. 364 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: It's a good idea. 365 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: I will do that. Yeah, I will do that. I'll 366 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: reach out to Joan. It's been awfully busy lately. I 367 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: don't know how much time she has. 368 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: She has time. She loves being matchmaker. 369 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 4: I feel like she she's a good matchmaker and she 370 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 4: likes to do it so well. 371 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. 372 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 4: If Nancy's not available, I feel like Joan could like 373 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: be like, but I have this person or this person 374 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: that you might like. 375 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: What are you What are your thoughts on Joe and 376 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: Chock together? 377 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 3: I'm thrilled for both of them. Little. I got the 378 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: impression early on when Chock came back from his Disneyland 379 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: date with Joan, he very much seemed to be smitten 380 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: with her, absolutely smitten with her at that point, and 381 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 3: the fact that Joan chose him for the first one 382 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 3: on one out of eighteen guys certainly said that there 383 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: was a very strong attraction that she had for him 384 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: or to him, and so I'm not the least bit 385 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: surprised that those were the two left standing at the end, 386 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: or one kneeling and one standing at the end, and 387 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: so I'm thrilled for both of them, and I wish 388 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 3: them all the best, and I hope they you know, 389 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: when they do decide to have the wedding, that they'll 390 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: invite some of the Mansion men to come as well. 391 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: Do you have any plans in the future to hang 392 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: out with any of those guys? 393 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 3: Nothing specific, However, I am traveling and I'm in currently 394 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 3: in the state of Florida, and two of the guys 395 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: live here, and I've reached out to them. I actually 396 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: talked to them about it at the Mentel Hall told 397 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: him when I was going to be in Florida, and 398 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: there's a good chance that at least one of them 399 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: will be home, and I'm planning to go see them 400 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: in January. So I'm going to be in Florida for 401 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: another couple of months except for going back for Christmas 402 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: with my kids in Seattle, so I'm definitely going to 403 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: be seeing them. I'm hoping to see Mark as I 404 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: cross As I drive cross country to California, I hope 405 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: to stop and see Mark in Louisiana. And then when 406 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 3: I get to California, there's like three or four guys 407 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: in California that I hope to connect with. There's not 408 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: a single one of these guys in from the mansion, 409 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: Among the mansion men, there's not one of them that 410 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: I wouldn't love to hang out with, go have dinner with, 411 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 3: stay at their house if they let me. They're all 412 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: just wonderful human beings. 413 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 4: So's so great. It's so nice that you guys all 414 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: come out of this with a new community of people 415 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 4: to connect with and hang out with. But thank you 416 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: so much for coming on, Kim. It was so great 417 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 4: to chat with you and meet you. 418 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: Very nice to meet both of you. 419 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and to. 420 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: All of our listeners, thank you so much for tuning 421 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 4: into a Boucherer Happy Hour. We have more exclusive interviews 422 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 4: coming your way, so don't forget to subscribe. 423 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: Thanks and thank you, Kim. Bye, Jack, Welcome to Bachelor 424 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. How are you? 425 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 5: I'm doing great. How about you? 426 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm doing good. So you're you're a 427 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: Chicago guy, Huh? 428 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 5: I am. Actually I'm in northwest Indiana now, but born and. 429 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 6: Raised in Chicago, well part southeast side, as far east 430 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 6: as you can go. 431 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm from Melrose Park. 432 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 5: Ah. We're the Italians. Yeah, well, the Italians hang out 433 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 5: in Melrose. 434 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. I saw you you were 435 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: cooking some Italian Are you Italian? 436 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 5: I am Italian ZIONI yeah a little bit. 437 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: Uh yes, I heard you were the cook in the house. 438 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 439 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 6: Actually tonight I'm cheffing for one hundred and twenty women. 440 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 5: Okay, well, yes, I'm doing a fancy menu. 441 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 6: I'm finishing it up with bananas foster and doing underlining medallions. 442 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 6: I'm doing a butternut squash soup this start. Yeah, I'm 443 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 6: doing a lot of stuff. 444 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: So so you're so you're a cater. Did you ever 445 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: own a restaurant? 446 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 5: I did. It was in the Lindwood, Illinois. 447 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, what type of restaurant was it. 448 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 6: It was called Lencionis and it was kind of a 449 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 6: bar with a mini casino, two hundred seat banquet room 450 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 6: in the back. 451 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was. It was a heck of 452 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 5: a joint. 453 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: But let me tell you that that's a big operation. 454 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: Sounds a little like ken little a little bit. 455 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: It's the restaurant business is not an easy one, right. 456 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 5: Right right, That's why I got all them bags in 457 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 5: my eyes. 458 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: What how did you So how did you wind up 459 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: on the Golden Bacherrett? 460 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 6: You know, I had an ex girlfriend that actually sent 461 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 6: me an application and then it was I forgot. I 462 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 6: think it was long, and it was it was actually 463 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 6: I filled it out one night when I had quite 464 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 6: a few cocktails. 465 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: That's the way to do it, that's the best way 466 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: to apply a little tipsy was what's your cocktail of choice? 467 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 6: Mine is an old Fashioned or Bourbon on the rocks, 468 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 6: whichever one I decided that day. 469 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: And what is your what is your goal? Like, if 470 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: you're going to really impress a woman, what is the 471 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: dish that you're making? 472 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 5: The one I'm doing for this undred and twenty women tonight, 473 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 5: I'm tenderloining medallions with a Bordelais sauce, asparagus with a 474 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 5: Hollandaise sauce, and pipe garlic mashed potatoes. 475 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 4: And if you're choosing where to eat, where are you going? 476 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 4: Where does the chef eat? 477 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 6: If I'm choosing where to go, I'm going to a 478 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 6: place called Livio's. 479 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 5: It's a small what do you call it? 480 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 6: It's not a chain restaurant, It's a local restaurant that 481 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 6: has phenomenal Italian food. 482 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: What have you been to Lascarrola? 483 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 5: I have right by my daughter's house. My daughter lives 484 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 5: in the city. 485 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: Okay, what did your daughter think about you going on? 486 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: How many kids do you have? 487 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 5: I have two children, my daughter Gina and my daughter Jamie. 488 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: What did they howld are they. 489 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: Twenty thirty eight, thirty eight and thirty five? 490 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: What did they think about you going on the show? 491 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 5: In the beginning, they didn't like it. 492 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 6: It was because my ex wife didn't like it because 493 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 6: she never knows what I was gonna say, you know. 494 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 6: But uh, but after they realized that I got half 495 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 6: a brain and that I was going to do this 496 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 6: the right way, and and and I and they like, 497 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 6: they love it now. Actually they came down for the 498 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 6: men's tello. Yeah, it was cool. 499 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: So going back to the house, just going back to 500 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: your your first day, well, how familiar with How familiar 501 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: were you with the Bachelor in general? 502 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 5: Not at all? 503 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 6: I mean I had never saw I saw it actually, 504 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 6: and I told people listen, I almost apologized for it 505 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 6: because I saw it for the first time about two 506 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 6: weeks before I went there. So because they don't tell 507 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 6: you right away that you're going, you know, so I 508 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 6: ended up that. 509 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 5: Was what I did. 510 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm not shocked. I would have assumed you didn't watch 511 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: the show. 512 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm just not gonna lie. It's just you 513 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 5: know a lot of people and is it Is it 514 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 5: interesting now? 515 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 516 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 6: I mean it's it's amazing now because there's a correlation 517 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 6: between you know, the stuff that I did. 518 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: Did your daughter's watch it before you went on? 519 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 5: My Yes, yes, my my one daughter did the other daughter. 520 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Didn't you give you any advice? 521 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? Watch what you say, dad I have. 522 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's what I mean if my if my 523 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: dad was going on, that's exactly what I would say. 524 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: Watch watch what you say. Okay, So you step out 525 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: of the limo that first uh, that first day, What's 526 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: what's going through your head? What do you How do 527 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: you feel about Joan? 528 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: Because Joan was the most beautiful person and inside and out, 529 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 6: and when I got out. 530 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 5: Of the limo, all I wanted to do was impress her. 531 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 6: And of course I sang coming out of the limo, which. 532 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 5: Was a little different than you know, the other. 533 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 6: People, and uh, actually not bad for you know, doing 534 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 6: that acapella stuff and h coming out of the limo 535 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 6: like that. 536 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it actually I thought it came out as. 537 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: You sounded good? You sound do do you sing like 538 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: when you're catering? Do you do you go out there 539 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: and sing a little Frank Sinatra? 540 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 6: You know, I don't do it necessarily, kind of keep 541 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 6: those two worlds separate, you know, because you know, the 542 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 6: cooking is very whatever, and then the singing is kind 543 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 6: of my fun thing to do. 544 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Now, did you have a meeting Joan? Did you have 545 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: a connection with her? 546 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: You know, we really didn't have a connection. 547 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 6: And because of the fact that you know, you really 548 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 6: don't get as much time in the beginning that you 549 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 6: want with her, you know, and and so I'm. 550 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 5: In that way. No, I did not. I didn't have 551 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 5: time to. 552 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: Impress her with my Uh, I don't know with anything. 553 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 5: Well I did. I cooked the dinner, cooked nice, saying 554 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 5: to her, so what the hell? Well, I mean, what 555 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 5: else could you do? You know? 556 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: What was that dinner? Was that a veal chop that 557 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: you made? I don't remember. 558 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 6: No, that was tenderline Medaian's. It was very similar to 559 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 6: what I'm doing tonight. And then with the you know, 560 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 6: with the bordelat sauce, it's, uh, you can't go wrong 561 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 6: with that. If you don't like filet mignon with a 562 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 6: little uh Bordelet sauce on it, a little asparagus. 563 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 5: But Island days, it's you don't like. 564 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: Anything sounds really good. It's making me hungry. 565 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: Well, I'm actually starting. What was the battle? What was 566 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: the battle on the grill between the burgers? Chris? 567 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: Chris barbecue sauce. 568 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 5: A nice guy. I'm sorry I interrupted you. 569 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 4: No, No, I was just saying he put barbecue sauce 570 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 4: on the burgers? 571 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: Or what did he put the. 572 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 5: Barbecue sauce on the burgers? 573 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 6: And putting barbecue sauce on the burgers if you put 574 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 6: it on one is okay maybe, but not on all 575 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 6: of them because nobody's gonna eat them. 576 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just but that's my opinion. 577 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 578 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 4: I mean it is a bold move to throw roque 579 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: sauce on every single burger. 580 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but doesn't a lot of that get burnt off 581 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: on the fire? 582 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 5: No? No, because they he put it on like cheese, 583 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 5: like at the end, you know where you're not flipping 584 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 5: it around and everything. 585 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: So what was your favorite part about living with all 586 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: these guys? And you're in your least favorite part. 587 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 6: The camaraderie, the ability to meet these guys at this 588 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 6: age and have this whole separate group of friends. And 589 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 6: these guys they text every day and they you know, 590 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 6: a couple of the guys I talked to twice a week, 591 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 6: and yeah, I mean it just was a great, great 592 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 6: time meeting them and the whole thing. 593 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 5: I mean, you're you. 594 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 6: Know, you got the mansion, you got the pool, you 595 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 6: got cannon balls, it was all beautiful. 596 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: What was it like seeing everyone you attended the mental 597 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: hall and after the rows? What was that like? 598 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 5: Oh, it's comical. 599 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 6: I mean Charles was my roommate in my what do 600 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 6: you call it dressing room? 601 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 5: And I says, it's the first thing I go. And 602 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 5: I said, Charles, what did you do to your head? 603 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: You know? 604 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 5: And he and he said, you like Jack. It was 605 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 5: it was great. It was great to see Charles. It 606 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 5: was great to see all the guys. 607 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: Have you connected with any of the Chicago guys that 608 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: have lived in the city. 609 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 6: You know, Pastel invited me for dinner last week. It 610 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 6: just didn't work out. And Jordan's Michael, I you know, 611 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 6: I talked to back and forth as far as texts, 612 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 6: and that's so we're supposed to get together in Chicago. 613 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: Yes, are you doing anything for the holidays? Pardon me, 614 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 4: are you doing anything for the holidays? 615 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 5: No, I'm going to enjoy my family. 616 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 6: I had, you know, I had my grandkids, my daughter, 617 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 6: my ex, my everybody over for Thanksgiving. 618 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 5: And it was a beautiful thing. 619 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 6: It was you know that they came in about eleven 620 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 6: in the morning and then they left at about eight 621 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 6: o'clock at night, and it's great. 622 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: How does your ex feel now about the show? Is 623 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: she she okay with it? 624 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 5: Now? After it's done, She's all good. 625 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 6: She is a great lady, and she's just she's she's 626 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 6: fine with it now now, not before. 627 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 5: Now. 628 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: Wait, you said your ex sent you the application. It 629 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 4: wasn't your ex wife though it was an extra friend. 630 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 5: It was an ex girlfriend. I'm sorry. 631 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 4: Okay, how did that conversation go. Did she just say, hey, 632 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 4: I think you should sign up. I think you'd be 633 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: great for this, right. 634 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 6: Just about exactly what she said, you know what she said, 635 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 6: I think you'd be great for this. You know, fill 636 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 6: this out, you know, And and so I says. 637 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 5: Okay, And then I didn't fill it out. And then 638 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 5: one day I. 639 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 6: Think it was I don't know, snowing or something, and 640 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 6: I was at Libio's having a bourbon imagine that, and 641 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 6: then I just build it out, you know. 642 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, So what is what? What is dating life 643 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: like for you? 644 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 5: Now? Comical? I mean it's it's wonderful, you know. 645 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 6: I there's this really nice, beautiful lady named Kathy that 646 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 6: that I am dating a little bit, but not you know, 647 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 6: I mean, she lives in Florida. 648 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 5: I live here. 649 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 6: She actually was a fan of the show and sent 650 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 6: me something, you know, and I don't answer all them things. 651 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 6: In fact, I don't understand how to answer all them things. 652 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 6: Uh my daughter tells me if I got different things 653 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 6: because she kind of. 654 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 5: My accounts because I don't know nothing about that stuff. 655 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's okay though, that's fine. Are you so 656 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: like when you like tonight you're catering a big party? 657 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: Do these people? Will these women know who you are? 658 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: From the show? 659 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, they're they're uh yeah, definitely. 660 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 5: It's gonna be a thing. 661 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 6: I gotta do. 662 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 5: Tell you the funny story. So you know Chicago a 663 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 5: little bit, you know where Hensdale's at. 664 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, she got a lot of it. 665 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: I grew up in Chica. I mean I was born 666 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: and raised, you know. Yeah, no, no, no. 667 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 6: So I'm in Hensdale walking down the street with this 668 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 6: girl on my first date with her, and all of 669 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 6: a sudden, this woman comes running out of the store 670 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 6: like frantically, and she yells, you're. 671 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 5: Jack from the Golden Bench, your. 672 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 6: Jack, and I yes, yes, I am. He you know, 673 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 6: I mean, you just don't know how to answer the stuff. 674 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 6: But like two minutes later, a guy pulls over in downtown, 675 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 6: you know, Hensdale, and he goes, hey, you're Jack from 676 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 6: the gold Man. 677 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 5: I'm thinking of this is gonna be a weird date. 678 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 6: I don't know how good hand, But after they had 679 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 6: calmed down, it was all good. 680 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 5: Nice. 681 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it does not wrong with that. She 682 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: probably she might have liked that, you know. 683 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think in some ways she might hit, 684 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 6: But in some ways she's kind of yeah, yeah. 685 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: Are you are you familiar with Oh, you're dating you're 686 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: kind of dating somebody? Were there any other women from 687 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelor that you were interested in? 688 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 6: Chris, Christina is very nice lady. And you know, there's 689 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 6: and and Susan. I've talked to back and forth. You know, 690 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 6: she's a very busy woman, that Susan. I mean, she's 691 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 6: got she got a lot of stuff going on and 692 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 6: and uh, but she's a super nice lady, very intelligent 693 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 6: and a lot of very charming she is. 694 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 4: I wanna I want to go over to her house. 695 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: I hear she's a really good cook too. You guys 696 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 4: should get together. 697 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: Who do you think about her cook? 698 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 6: Well, you know, you got to remember I cooked for 699 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 6: thousands then, and you know I'd have to add it 700 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 6: up one time to find how many, you know, because 701 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 6: for forty years I had a thousand cee bank with 702 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 6: a hall and then oh no, that was actually for 703 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 6: only twenty eight years, but then I had the restaurant 704 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 6: and we had all these other banket all. So yeah, 705 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 6: so I cooked for quite a bit and done quite 706 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 6: a bit of different things. 707 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: Who'd you get your produce from? 708 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 6: Back in the day it was called Baker produce and 709 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 6: Zanstra produce. But besides that, I got it from Conal's Foods, which. 710 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 5: Is another you know, like a Gordon food service type thing. 711 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 5: Got it. 712 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to be in the produce business. 713 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 5: I used to work at the Oh you were in 714 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 5: a produce it worked on the water market. 715 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Have you have you ever 716 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: been down there? 717 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, back in the day, we used to go there, 718 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 5: you know, I mean like forty fifty years ago. That 719 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 5: was what you did. You went down and got the 720 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 5: best deal. 721 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. What what are some of yours? What's your favorite 722 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: memory from your time on the show? 723 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 5: Again? Uh, you know, meeting Joan was really cool. 724 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 6: Uh, the times with the guys in the pool we were, 725 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 6: you know, having tottails and and bus and and uh, 726 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 6: you know. 727 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 5: The home mansion was. I enjoyed every bit of it. 728 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 6: The only part that I didn't like, and I've said 729 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 6: this before, is that you know, they you got the 730 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 6: bunk beds, and I'm kind of clusted the phobic. So 731 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 6: the top bunk no good and the bottom bunk no 732 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 6: good because you see the top bunk, and so I 733 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 6: kind of slept downstairs. And the funny part about that 734 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 6: is because the first night I went and I said, Hey, 735 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 6: I'm going to go sleep outside, and one of the 736 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 6: guys said that's fine, but there's a lot of tarantula's 737 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 6: out there. And I slammed the door and I, okay, 738 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 6: where can I sleep? And so we found a couch 739 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 6: for me. 740 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 4: We saw that you obviously you were at the metal 741 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 4: all but you also were at the after the final 742 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 4: rows for the finale. 743 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: What did you think of that? And how do you 744 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: feel about Joan and Chock? 745 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 6: I from the day one, I said that Joan and 746 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 6: Chock where Chock was going to be the winner because 747 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 6: and not to take anything away from me or any 748 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 6: of the other guys, but he was just he had 749 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 6: a lot in common with her. He was a super 750 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 6: nice guy. He's good looking, son of a gun. I 751 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 6: mean he I just. 752 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 5: Thought Chock was was the guy for the for the 753 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 5: to win. 754 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 755 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot of a lot of guys 756 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: feel that way. 757 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, we heard there was a party after the finale. 758 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 4: Did you go, oh yeah, how was it? 759 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 5: That party? 760 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 6: That was like do you know what you know, back 761 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 6: when Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin or whatever used to 762 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 6: go to a Hollywood party, That's what that party was like. 763 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 6: I mean there was just like everybody's all over with 764 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 6: you know, Butler Style or Dervs. 765 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 5: Martinez, Manhattan is anything you wanted? You guy? 766 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 6: There it was and and it was and I again, 767 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 6: it was very comical. 768 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 5: They were like people wanted to talk to me there, 769 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 5: and I'm thinking to myself, I'm like a little Mickey 770 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 5: Mouse in comparison to these people. I says, but you know, 771 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 5: it was a ball and the place was gorgeous. 772 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you were You weren't on the show for 773 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: that long, but you were a very When you were 774 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: on the show, you were one of the main main 775 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: focus points. 776 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, people were surprised that you went home so early. 777 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 4: People weren't expecting that. We weren't expecting that either. 778 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 5: You know. I wasn't expecting either, to tell you surprise, 779 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 5: And you know, I just figured that I might have, 780 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 5: you know, because when you. 781 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 6: Kind of act like I do, some people like it 782 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 6: and some people don't, you know. So I'm thinking maybe 783 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 6: there was a guy that you know, or whoever's making 784 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 6: a decision, because I really don't think Joan. 785 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 5: Wanted to get rid of me then early. But who knows? 786 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: What was it you saw al this his last concert? 787 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 6: Huh May second, nineteen seven, May second, nineteen seventy seven. 788 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 5: I was in the front row, was it? 789 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: Where was in Vegas? 790 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 5: No? In Chicago at the Amphitheater, uh Antitheater? Yeah? Anyway, 791 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 5: So yeah, I was in the front row. 792 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 6: And it was so funny because Alvis, you know, he 793 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 6: was always throwing scarves out and everything. 794 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 5: So he threw a. 795 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 6: Scarf out and I got it, and this guy behind 796 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 6: next to me, my buddy, uh Cuba, he gave him 797 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 6: a pick. Well, there was some excuse me chicks and 798 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 6: behind us that wanted to pick and the scarves. Well, 799 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 6: he gave him the pick and he said, give him 800 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 6: the scy I said, giving him the scarves. 801 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 5: Scar's staying with me. So I still have this scar. 802 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: You still have it? 803 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, wow? 804 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: What do you think that's? Why do you think it's 805 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: worth anything? 806 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: Definitely don't know. 807 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 6: I mean how could they tell. I mean, it's not 808 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 6: like he had his name on it or anything. I 809 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 6: guess they could do the DNA thing or whatever. But 810 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 6: you know, it's been god May Sex seventy seven, it's 811 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 6: got to be almost fifty years. 812 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. What brand is the scarf? Just a regular pardon? 813 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: What brand is the scarf? Is there anything? 814 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 5: You know? I've never I don't even know if there's 815 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 5: a brand on there BG you know. 816 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 817 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 4: Wow, So you're hosting a dinner party tonight. Do you 818 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 4: think you'll ever fully officially retire and stop working. 819 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 5: You know, some people ask me and they said, what 820 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 5: are you doing it? 821 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 6: And I go, because, you know what, doing it once 822 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 6: in a blue moon is fine. Doing it every day 823 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 6: I'm under pressure. And that's why I sold the restaurant, 824 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 6: because you know, every day I was starting to think 825 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 6: we were a very busy restaurant, and I thought, you know, 826 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 6: I was under pressure. 827 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 5: All that. 828 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 6: I said, I ain't going to drop dead and never 829 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 6: get to spend that money I made. So that's why 830 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 6: I ended up quitting. But doing it once in a while, 831 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 6: I sure I enjoy it. Tonight's going to be a ball. 832 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, What are you any plans for Christmas? 833 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 5: Christmas? Even my kids will come here and then. 834 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 6: On Christmas Day. I'm not sure why I have thought 835 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 6: that fire ahead yet. Yeah, because I'm leaving for Florida 836 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 6: on the third of January. And then I take my 837 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 6: car and hear my sub and then dragged there with 838 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 6: my bicycle and golf gloves everything, and then I stay 839 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 6: a couple of months in Florida. 840 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: Nice, that's nice. What part of Florida. 841 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 6: I'm in Treasure Island for a month and then Marco 842 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 6: Island for another month. 843 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: Nice. Good for you well, Jack, thank you, thank you 844 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: so much for taking the time out of your busy 845 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,399 Speaker 1: day and hopping on Betry Happy Hour and talking to us. 846 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 6: It was a great talking to both, to you and 847 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 6: you have a great Christmas. 848 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 5: Merry Christmas to Bobia. 849 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: Thank you you as well to all our listeners, make 850 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: sure you tune in the Betch your Happy Hour and 851 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: download and subscribe. 852 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have more episodes coming your way. Thanks for listening. Bye.