WEBVTT - Second Date Update: The Truth Will Set You Free

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<v Speaker 1>Second d women when you started, like, women are always

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<v Speaker 1>saying that they want a stand up guy, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a man gives them exactly that stands them up, and suddenly,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it, ladies? You want a stand up guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Or don't you not a stand me up guy? You

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<v Speaker 1>clearly don't know what you want. That's why Nick stood

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<v Speaker 1>his date up, and now suddenly she's been all weird

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<v Speaker 1>about it. He just can't win, can we? Man? Apparently not? Yeah? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're calling because you feel bad, right, Nicko? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you hit the nail on the head, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>gooped on this one. Bro? Why did you stand her off? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well yeah we'll get to why. First tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>this needy lady? Who is she? God? She just wants

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<v Speaker 1>someone to actually be there when she has a date

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<v Speaker 1>and attention to her. She didn't even say that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just show up. I think was the what's her name? Sally?

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<v Speaker 1>Sally on the Valley? And how did you meet? We

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<v Speaker 1>met on on an app? Like how do people meet otherwise?

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<v Speaker 1>These days? I mean, every once in a while it's

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<v Speaker 1>like Instagram. Yeah yeah no, but even when you meet

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, okay, now talk to me on Instagram? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you like about Sally? Well, I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>this in a shallow way, but like, there was this

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<v Speaker 1>picture she had of her in a red dress, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about a girl in a red dress and

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<v Speaker 1>the way that Sally looked at it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to talk to this girl. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's shallow. I mean that's how it's all done, right,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you only have a picture really to go on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nicer than I expected. Yeah, so I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say boobs. Yeah he did, but those

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<v Speaker 1>were inside of the dress. So much. From reading your email, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you went on one day, but you

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<v Speaker 1>stood her up on date two. Oh my gosh, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>Well what happened on date one? Well, the one was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool because we went to like an old school

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<v Speaker 1>rap concert. I thought it was a good choice to

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<v Speaker 1>be fun, so I thought we had a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually kissed while we were dancing. It went really,

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<v Speaker 1>it went really, well, you had a great time the

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<v Speaker 1>first date, obviously, she thought so too. What did you

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<v Speaker 1>plan for the second? Well, a more traditional date. I thought, okay, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's get a place where we could talk more.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do an improper date. That was her idea. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, okay, sure, but a gentleman, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to her. That's nice. So you guys were going

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<v Speaker 1>to meet at the restaurant. Yeah, we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>meet at the restaurant. And then I fully admit this

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<v Speaker 1>was my faults up. What happened. So I had to

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<v Speaker 1>go by my ex's house and I had to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up the cable box because I had to turn in

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<v Speaker 1>the cable box because we're no longer or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>together in that way. Okay, Yeah, and I end up

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<v Speaker 1>spending a little more time there than expected. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you were hooking up with your ex. Truth be told,

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<v Speaker 1>we did hook up. It it was kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a farewell, we're not getting back together, but literally you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the way to meet Sally. Yeah, you couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>done it the night before? Yeah, for you, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say. I'm just being honest about it. Brook.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it really matter if it happened the night before?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make a difference to you? Okay, so what

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<v Speaker 1>didn't What are your appropriate time period, like an hour

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<v Speaker 1>before the date would have been okay, Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just so he can be clean and not be thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of the last person he was whatever went though he

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<v Speaker 1>never met up with. Yeah, it sounds like he never

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<v Speaker 1>even met her, so he did her a favor by

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<v Speaker 1>not showing up. Okay, that's a gentleman moves, very gentleman.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we hear the excuse that he used? Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you say? Would you say to Sally? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I I couldn't think of something, and I told

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<v Speaker 1>her that I took a nap and my arm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still asleep and I wasn't comfortable driving because my arms

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<v Speaker 1>were so kind of asleep, so I laid on them,

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<v Speaker 1>said took a nap. I was like, that's not bad there, No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not be awake and I'd have to go away.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't want to go at that point? I see,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get that because what you say felt dirty

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<v Speaker 1>with classic coma arms. I think that was a solid choice.

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<v Speaker 1>And what did she reply? I mean she's already sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at the restaurant at that point. Yeah she didn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's obvious. You're made down. That's so rude that she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't respond back to you. Rude. Oh geez man, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you got what you had coming to you, which

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<v Speaker 1>is getting ghosted, and now you want us to salvage it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing, Okay, Well Brook, Yeah, it was always say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to just be honest about it? Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>well I got to lose at this point, don't You're happy? Brook?

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<v Speaker 1>It is true, Brook does. Brook does say if you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be one hundred sent honest with whoever you're dying,

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't need this information. This isn't going to make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel better. Look, I like her, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to continue this, and I think it's better to have,

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<v Speaker 1>like to start out with honesty. I hopefully shall respect that,

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<v Speaker 1>and but like I'm leaning that way, but I'm open

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<v Speaker 1>to suggestion. If you guys think there's a better tred

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<v Speaker 1>Brook is the one that's going to guide you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I was like hooking back up with

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<v Speaker 1>my ex when I met my husband all the truth

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<v Speaker 1>comes out. I mean, he knew that my X was

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<v Speaker 1>coming into town at one point. I mean he knew,

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<v Speaker 1>but then like the X came and I was like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>he sucks. I really like this other guy better. Brook.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been doing the show for a really long time

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<v Speaker 1>and I did not know that there was overlap with

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<v Speaker 1>your husband and your as. I mean, we weren't together

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<v Speaker 1>like on the other side, Michael, are you listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>He was coming out of a relationship too. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>things are messy and go together and got married. No

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<v Speaker 1>one person cheated. Okay, well, we'll be back with Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>stories and also getting a second date update for Nick

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<v Speaker 1>right after this. Hold on, Nick, second, we just heard

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<v Speaker 1>an admission of guilt, not from brook I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we did hear about some weird stuff going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about from our listener, Nick, who says

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to come clean about the real reason that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't show up to a second date with Sally.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, I don't feel comfortable saying this, Like, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you want it to happen, Nick, that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>your choice and it has to come from you and

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth. I agree, because we were joking a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So you should probably think really hard if this is

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<v Speaker 1>honestly the best way to go about it, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're telling us you think honesty is important, But

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<v Speaker 1>for you to admit that you blew off Sally that

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<v Speaker 1>night to hook up with your ex one final time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that sounds bad, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You just say I was spending time

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<v Speaker 1>with my axes. So that sounds like you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get back together. But I think that's what the whole

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<v Speaker 1>relationship will be like. I mean, I think you just

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<v Speaker 1>try to leave that part out as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Move forward, talk about what you want to happen, not

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. I mean, we never know how these calls

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<v Speaker 1>are going to go before you make them, so Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to pick the right time if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. But I'm not going to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>No one in this room is going to say it

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<v Speaker 1>has to come from you. Oh yeah, I totally agree that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll slay it by her. I'll see how the conversation goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't play it by your r and cs. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't count on those. I couldn't drive. All right, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're wishing you luck. I'm wishing myself luck. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make this call right now here we go. Hello, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>is it Sally? Yeah? What's up, Sally? My name is

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<v Speaker 1>jeff from the radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in

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<v Speaker 1>the Morning. How you doing. Oh, I'm good. Okay, what's up? Hi, Sally,

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<v Speaker 1>whole show is here. We all want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about a guy that you went on a date

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<v Speaker 1>with the other night. Well, you went on, you went

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<v Speaker 1>on one day with him, and then not another date

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<v Speaker 1>with him. His name's Nick. Yeah. Oh it doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a surprise to you at all. Um, I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys are calling me about him. He should

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm not responding to him, and I'm definitely yeah. Now, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he understands that. He admits that he messed

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<v Speaker 1>up by not showing up that night to dinner. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good for him. Yeah, I mean i'd be angry too.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you already at the restaurant when he texted you

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<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't gonna make it? Yeah, I was already

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there. First of all, he didn't even call. He

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<v Speaker 1>texted first problem right there? Yeah, oh, you're already late.

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<v Speaker 1>You texted me after the fact that you're already late,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting looking at this restaurant looking like an idiot, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you text me this ridiculous he has excused about

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<v Speaker 1>your arms falling asleep and you're not being able to drive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like that was pretty lame. I'd be super too. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say that does happen to me all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Arms dead and you can't you can't drive. But that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that Nick feels good about that. He still

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<v Speaker 1>is very, very very regretful of how that night played out.

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<v Speaker 1>So did he tell you that that was a truth thing,

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<v Speaker 1>or like, was that a lie? Because that's an unbelievable story. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the truth is. Only Nick knows

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<v Speaker 1>what the truth of that night is. We're just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to help him get back in touch with you. He did,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he said he was an idiot for messing

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<v Speaker 1>up the second date with you, and that he had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time when you guys went to the concert

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<v Speaker 1>the first day, and I think he really saw potential

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<v Speaker 1>of you two together. I mean, that's why it's even

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<v Speaker 1>more annoying because we did have such a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>We even showed a kiss, like I did want to

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<v Speaker 1>see him again. So I'm open to hearing what he

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<v Speaker 1>has to say. But I'm pretty disay rotated, right, that's unstable.

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<v Speaker 1>We get that, yeah, And I mean you have to

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<v Speaker 1>think about this. We understand how frustrating and disappointing it

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<v Speaker 1>must have been from your end, but from Nicks end,

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<v Speaker 1>Like in order for him to organize this second date update,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of work to email us, to have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to our producers and arrange a time to

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<v Speaker 1>come on the show and reach out to you. It

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<v Speaker 1>shows that he really does care about you. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can have him reach out to me. That's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not giving him the guarantees to anything. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well what I can actually do you one better? And

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<v Speaker 1>instead of having him reach out after, I'll have I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have him reach out right now. His arms are feeling Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he is on the other line and he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you. So he heard everything I just said.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah things, Yeah, I would have unless he fell asleep

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<v Speaker 1>on his ears and they're not working. Wow. Um okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Sally, Hey, uh, I'm glad that we're talking. That's sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Yeah, Well, what do you even want to

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<v Speaker 1>say to me? What do you have to say for yourself? Well, one,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, I'm I'm sorry that and that

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<v Speaker 1>I know I goofed it up and like, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the idiot here. So uh, this this one's on me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big move. I like you, Sally. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we had a great time, and I wouldn't keep pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>this if it wasn't a genuine feeling I have for you. Okay, Nick, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>just just stop for a second. Yes, tell me the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>What really happened? Well, the good question? Um, there's a compliment. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's talking about the dead arms thing. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's start there. Okay, my arms didn't fall asleep

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<v Speaker 1>that day, so that text was not accurate. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I met Sally's got such a shock face on the

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<v Speaker 1>other line. The truth, I like, I want, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue this and be honest. And I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was debating like telling you, but if if I do

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<v Speaker 1>get to go out with you again, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be thinking about like what happened and how I

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<v Speaker 1>goofed up. I want to just say it in honesty. Okay, Sally,

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<v Speaker 1>can we agree to do that? If he tells you

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<v Speaker 1>the truth, will you guarantee you go out on another

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<v Speaker 1>date with him the truth? And you give him another date.

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<v Speaker 1>I would listen to what he said and we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>from there. Well, Nick, this is your moment to come clean. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm nervous. Um, Okay, what happened is I went to

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<v Speaker 1>go pick up a cable box from my ex's place,

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<v Speaker 1>and I inadvertently stayed there longer than I should have,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like things happened and it meant nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like the very last time, and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel right going to dinner with you right after,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm like, you don't have Sometimes you like

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<v Speaker 1>when you make a mistake like that and you realize,

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<v Speaker 1>like one, I wish it didn't do that. I really

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<v Speaker 1>liked this other girl, Sally. All I can say is wow, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who does that? What do you mean? Like, who does

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<v Speaker 1>the X hook up? He didn't say anything about hook up?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you did and they hooked up. I'm not an idiot. Hello, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard those words. Yeah, okay, Jeff, you can

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<v Speaker 1>stayed there longer and that you wanted said he did

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you shouldn't have. He said stuff happened. What you

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<v Speaker 1>think stuff is? She's not a moron. That's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>to have a moment of weakness and hook up. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We weren't in no committed relationship. That's not the issue. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue is you knew you were going on a

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<v Speaker 1>date with me. If this would have happened on any

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<v Speaker 1>other day whatever, But you knew you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>come see me, and you still had the thought process

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<v Speaker 1>to go and hook up with your ex. Yeah. Well no,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't go there to go hook up with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get a cable box. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>went there and bring happening. And here's how I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, obviously bad move and my mistake. But like

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<v Speaker 1>what I was thinking was like, oh, well, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>just hooked up with my ex. Now I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go out to dinner with her. That seemed worse to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get kudos for that because you knew you

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<v Speaker 1>were going on a date before she picked up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't matter, I mean I can see her

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<v Speaker 1>side too. Like, like we said, you should have picked

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<v Speaker 1>up the cable box the night before. It would have

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<v Speaker 1>made all the difference when you stop by your exes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, exactly, whenever anybody touches a cable box, the

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<v Speaker 1>mood just as set. Is there anything he could do,

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<v Speaker 1>Sally to like get in your good graces again, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a million other idiots on those dating apps that I

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<v Speaker 1>can talk to. I don't need to put up with this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>All those are the million other idiots on the dating apps.

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<v Speaker 1>All those million other idiots probably have exes with cable

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<v Speaker 1>boxes too, and you're just going to end up right

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<v Speaker 1>back here in the same situation. Nick actually has gone

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<v Speaker 1>through this entire process. You know, he's fallen on his

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<v Speaker 1>swore just for the chance to see you one more time.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for him. Yeah, and let me say this, just

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a possibility that I'm going to run into

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<v Speaker 1>another idiot with a cable box an ex girlfriend, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that I'm not going to continue to weave them

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<v Speaker 1>out because I don't want to end up with someone

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Why Sally needs to be a dating coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's good Sally. Yeah, it really didn't work out, No, yea,

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<v Speaker 1>I was open. I wouldn't put it one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>on you, Nick, I would put part of it on

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<v Speaker 1>Brooke in her dumb, one hundred percent honesty theories. Not

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<v Speaker 1>to tell all the details, Jeffrey, I didn't all the details. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's actually get some of those details. What really happened

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<v Speaker 1>Brook and Jeffrey in the morning