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Speaker 4: What's up, everybody, Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
Speaker 4: This is our first show, well, our free agency episode,
Speaker 4: if you will. There's a lot to talk about, obviously,
Speaker 4: including its end of an era in the Bay. I
Speaker 4: know there's been a kind of a lot of talks
Speaker 4: over the last four years about the end of an era,
Speaker 4: but I think this would officially mark the end of
Speaker 4: an era and the Bay.
Speaker 5: By the way, I am with my.
Speaker 4: Family kind of on vacation, so also with other family
Speaker 4: of ours. So if you hear like babies crying and
Speaker 4: people yelling and talking, and.
Speaker 5: I still wanted to bring you this episode.
Speaker 4: So if you get all of that, I don't know
Speaker 4: if you all to catch it or this microphone to
Speaker 4: pick it up or not. But if it does, I
Speaker 4: apologize in advance. You just kind of get the real
Speaker 4: raw version of me. And it's always not It's not
Speaker 4: really gonna come from a studio, so sometimes this is
Speaker 4: what you get. So if you hear that, I apologize.
Speaker 4: But anyway, moving on, I think there's been a lot
Speaker 4: of crying. Speaking of crying, there's been a lot of crying,
Speaker 4: I'm sure around the world around the Bay, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: marking Clay's exit, uh thirteen years in the Bay, reportedly
Speaker 4: joining the Mavericks on a three year, fifty million dollar deal,
Speaker 4: signing trade uh Clay to the Mavericks. And I must say,
Speaker 4: I don't I don't really know how I feel about it.
Speaker 4: Clay told us last week, Uh, I don't know who
Speaker 4: all he told me.
Speaker 5: I know he talked to me pretty sure.
Speaker 4: He talked to Steph last week and he just kind
Speaker 4: of was like yeah, man, like you know, just kind
Speaker 4: of started talking through the years like been great, what
Speaker 4: we've done is so special, like you know, you and Steph,
Speaker 4: my brothers, and the conversation just kind of starts as
Speaker 4: small talk and like you're kind of just prepping yourself,
Speaker 4: like man, get me there, like I know it's coming,
Speaker 4: and like you're enjoying the conversation, but yet it's kind
Speaker 4: of one of those moments so where like somebody like
Speaker 4: building you up before they get you to blow, they
Speaker 4: just kind of build you up. And that's kind of
Speaker 4: what I was feeling. I was headed to my daughter's recital,
Speaker 4: so I wasn't able to go as in depth to
Speaker 4: the conversation as maybe I would have, which I think
Speaker 4: also was kind of a good thing for me because
Speaker 4: one thing I think when Clay told me, I was
Speaker 4: just able to listen, you know, and it wasn't like
Speaker 4: a yo, we could finish like this so like you
Speaker 4: should rethink this. It was just like wow, like all right,
Speaker 4: like congrasp bro, Like I'm happy for you. That's dope,
Speaker 4: and like you know, to obviously reassure that that changes
Speaker 4: nothing for us, you know, like changes the basketball court obviously,
Speaker 4: but the relationships, they are what they are, they are forever.
Speaker 1: The the connection, the bond, even as far as all
Speaker 1: of us being mentioned together like that, that just forever,
Speaker 1: that that would never change, you know.
Speaker 4: But it's I don't know, I haven't really been able
Speaker 4: to process the feelings this morning, or not even this morning,
Speaker 4: maybe earlier today. I think I might have dropped a
Speaker 4: couple of tiers A tier two. You're just kind of
Speaker 4: sitting there and thinking. And then I came across Steph's
Speaker 4: story and like saw the pictures and it was very
Speaker 4: interesting to me because when I was going through step story,
Speaker 4: like I went through it a couple of times, and
Speaker 4: it was just like it was crazy to me how
Speaker 4: many of the pictures that he posted that I was
Speaker 4: also in, and so seeing that was like, man, I
Speaker 4: could just kind of take you back and like it
Speaker 4: takes me back to the beginning though, like like when
Speaker 4: it all started and none of us really knew that
Speaker 4: it would end up being this, you know, what it became,
Speaker 4: and and just going through that, you know, it was
Speaker 4: very interesting to see, like I said, how many of
Speaker 4: those I was in because I don't I don't put
Speaker 4: myself in the same category with them too.
Speaker 5: Them two for me are like here, like.
Speaker 4: Out of the frame, like they're here, and I think
Speaker 4: for me, for me personally, like like the way I
Speaker 4: view my role in this is always like ya, I'm
Speaker 4: always have them two back, and I'm gonna always look
Speaker 4: out for them too, and like no matter what, like
Speaker 4: nobody can touch them to like they can do no wrong,
Speaker 4: and like I'll go to battle for them, I'll take
Speaker 4: the fall for them, whatever that needs to be. Maybe
Speaker 4: like I'm doing that, and so for me and being
Speaker 4: that way and thinking that way, if I'll take the
Speaker 4: fall for them, you know, go to battle for them,
Speaker 4: then you're kind of not viewing yourself in that same space,
Speaker 4: right because it's like I'll do all of that for
Speaker 4: those guys, and so.
Speaker 5: Yes, we'll always be mentioned together. But for me, the
Speaker 5: way I look.
Speaker 4: At those two, my appreciation for those two guys to
Speaker 4: then see myself in like half of the pictures that
Speaker 4: Steph posted was just like wow, like to bring you
Speaker 4: to a.
Speaker 5: Weird space.
Speaker 4: And so I dropped a couple of tears just throughout
Speaker 4: the day, not even necessarily exactly looking at the story,
Speaker 4: but throughout the day it's just like wow, man, Like
Speaker 4: I always tell people like I am like I am.
Speaker 4: I like to keep things the same. My friends are
Speaker 4: the same, you know, in life. I try to keep
Speaker 4: things the same. My trainer who works on my body,
Speaker 4: I try to keep that the same. Like my basketball trainer,
Speaker 4: I keep that the same. Like I like things to
Speaker 4: stay the same. And this, this, this sucks for me,
Speaker 4: This part of the this time and year always sucks
Speaker 4: because you build relationships with people and then like out
Speaker 4: of nowhere, they're just gone. And out of nowhere being
Speaker 4: gone for us is crazy because you spend most of
Speaker 4: your time with these people, like you spend pretty much
Speaker 4: the better part of nine and a half months seeing
Speaker 4: these people daily, and then like out of nowhere, it
Speaker 4: just ends. It's very It's always been a very weird
Speaker 4: thing for me. And so then this one hits like
Speaker 4: a much like much deeper right, like way more close
Speaker 4: to home because in the sense it disrupts home, like
Speaker 4: what we've known as home for the last twelve years.
Speaker 5: For me, that looks way different now. And so.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I feel like I'm ramming a little bit.
Speaker 4: So if you make it through this episode, kudos to you.
Speaker 4: Is I don't really have clear thoughts and approaching this episode,
Speaker 4: it's just a little weird. I'm happy for Clay. I
Speaker 4: think last year was a very trying year for him.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, it was the highs and the
Speaker 4: lows of last year. I think it was very hard
Speaker 4: on Clay and as a brother to see someone going
Speaker 4: through that, Like it was hard on me to watch,
Speaker 4: uh kind of see him going through what he was
Speaker 4: going through. And I think, you know, if you ever
Speaker 4: care about someone, I think one of the reasons I
Speaker 4: didn't even like when he called me, I didn't even
Speaker 4: attempt to like want to talk him out of leaving
Speaker 4: or like, yo, you should stay, because like all the
Speaker 4: reasons that you would say, like in things that you could, yeah,
Speaker 4: I could make words sound good, but like those are known,
Speaker 4: you know, like those reasons are well documented. And so
Speaker 4: I think part of the reason when he said to me, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm a leave, I was just like, man, I'm happy
Speaker 4: for you. That's dope, Like it's crazy to think what
Speaker 4: we've done and blah blah blah. But not once was
Speaker 4: it like, yo, you may want to rethink this. You
Speaker 4: got time to rethink it, because to see him struggle
Speaker 4: the way he did last year, if you at all,
Speaker 4: if you ever care for someone's well being, care about
Speaker 4: what they go through, go through the battles, through the
Speaker 4: struggle with someone, elevate past a level that no one
Speaker 4: could ever imagine with someone, like I'd hope the care
Speaker 4: that you'd have for that person would go far beyond.
Speaker 5: What you may feel is best for you or what
Speaker 5: you want to see.
Speaker 4: And so a part of me, like I couldn't then
Speaker 4: go and be like yeah, like you know, I want
Speaker 4: you to stay or I wish you'd stay, or you
Speaker 4: should stay for this reason, because like for me to
Speaker 4: watch him go through what he went through last year,
Speaker 4: like I know how much he loved the game of basketball.
Speaker 5: Play.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's something that he loves the game
Speaker 4: like that he loves more than like playing basketball. And
Speaker 4: I didn't see that last year. And it's crazy because
Speaker 4: I told you all about my year before that, Like
Speaker 4: that was me the year before.
Speaker 1: Me.
Speaker 5: The year before was just.
Speaker 4: Like I kind of I don't even want to play basketball,
Speaker 4: and like you could kind of like it was hard
Speaker 4: to go to work, like it was hard to to
Speaker 4: even care about what was going on at work, Like
Speaker 4: you leave there and you kind of just try to
Speaker 4: lose the memory of being there tight like And so
Speaker 4: I kind of I experienced that a year before, and
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think when when I look back
Speaker 4: on it, when I take a step back and I
Speaker 4: look back on it, could it have been the contract
Speaker 4: playing that because he was kind of in the same position, right, Like,
Speaker 4: so I personally don't think it was that. Like I
Speaker 4: think there was a lot of other things going into it,
Speaker 4: but like there's no true way to know, like, oh
Speaker 4: it was dis emotion like touched here, and there's no
Speaker 4: real way to know.
Speaker 5: You just kind of take all those things into account.
Speaker 4: But like I said, I do know the joy that
Speaker 4: basketball brings him in like.
Speaker 5: It brought sadness. It brought unhappiness last year for him.
Speaker 4: And again, if you ever care about someone's well being,
Speaker 4: go through the struggle with somebody and you only care, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: number one goal for that person is to see them
Speaker 4: happy and enjoying what they do because you care about
Speaker 4: their well being. Then like a part of me wanted
Speaker 4: play the league and not wanting him to leave in
Speaker 4: the sense of like want him to lead, uh, but
Speaker 4: want him to leave because you own only want to
Speaker 4: see him be the guy that you know he is,
Speaker 4: Like for a guy that's lived his life since I've
Speaker 4: known him, and I can only imagine before without a
Speaker 4: care in the world, like we'd all always say, like, yo,
Speaker 4: Clay live in his own world.
Speaker 5: He don't have a care in the world.
Speaker 4: And like for a guy that you know lived their
Speaker 4: life that way, and then all of a sudden it's
Speaker 4: not that like something's wrong, and if the most important
Speaker 4: thing in his life is basketball, you can clearly immediately
Speaker 4: see what's wrong. And so as a brother, like I
Speaker 4: want to see him with that again, like with that joy,
Speaker 4: with that love, because like we way closer to the
Speaker 4: end than we are the beginning, you know. I remember
Speaker 4: my uncle one day said to me. He was like, nephew,
Speaker 4: like call your uncle sometimes, Like he said, I'm on
Speaker 4: the I'm on the wrong side of my downslide. I'm
Speaker 4: on the wrong side of my downslide. Something like that,
Speaker 4: he said, And like that's where we are, like in
Speaker 4: our careers, like we're on the wrong side of it.
Speaker 4: Can there still be special things done by us?
Speaker 5: Of course?
Speaker 4: Can there still be special things? Of course? But like
Speaker 4: we're way closer to the end than we are at
Speaker 4: the beginning, that's for sure. And so knowing that and
Speaker 4: understanding that, like I will hope to see him have
Speaker 4: the same joy at the end that I know he
Speaker 4: had at the beginning, because basketball is a is a
Speaker 4: it's a child's game. Uh, it's a kid's game, and
Speaker 4: basketball keep the kid in us. You know, you see
Speaker 4: you see us joking around and playing and all the
Speaker 4: stuff that like we do on a basketball court.
Speaker 5: That's kind of like what kids do.
Speaker 4: That you don't see in a typical job, right, like
Speaker 4: someone thirty three years old, Like the way that I
Speaker 4: may act with my teammates and like clowning around at
Speaker 4: thirty four, Like the different things that we do amongst
Speaker 4: us as thirty four year olds and clowning, like thirty
Speaker 4: four year olds that work at.
Speaker 5: The bank don't do those things.
Speaker 4: Like basketball is kind of a kid game, and I
Speaker 4: want him to see him have that same love enjoy
Speaker 4: in this kid game that we got a few more
Speaker 4: years of living that he had when I knew him
Speaker 4: as a kid, like when we were just kids, Like
Speaker 4: you know, it's twenty two, Like we were kids at
Speaker 4: twenty two. We didn't know anything, like just now growing up,
Speaker 4: growing in the manhood, Like I want to see him
Speaker 4: had that love again, because I witnessed what happened for
Speaker 4: him when he did have that love for it, when
Speaker 4: it did bring him that joy, and like I want
Speaker 4: to see that for him again. And last year it
Speaker 4: wasn't that. It was as probably far opposite as he
Speaker 4: could be.
Speaker 5: From that.
Speaker 4: And so to selfishly want to see him stay here
Speaker 4: and suffer for whatever it was that was.
Speaker 5: Griping at him, like, Nah, that ain't cool, like.
Speaker 4: For my own personal benefit or for the like that's
Speaker 4: not cool, because the memories that I do have are
Speaker 4: too good to didn't have to live through those memories,
Speaker 4: Like we don't have to live through those memories, Like
Speaker 4: we don't have to create those memories, I should say, like,
Speaker 4: and the ones that we can remember are credible, like amazing.
Speaker 4: Four titles in eight years changed the way the game
Speaker 4: of basketball has played, being a part of the greatest
Speaker 4: team ever to play, like those the memories we have,
Speaker 4: So to selfishly want to sit and create the other
Speaker 4: ones I'd rather not. So it's probably better this way,
Speaker 4: but it sucks, like it I'm not going to sit
Speaker 4: here and like sugarcoat it for twelve years. I don't
Speaker 4: think people ever process like all the time you spend
Speaker 4: like judging basketball players. Like the one thing that people
Speaker 4: don't really take into account is like you started seeing
Speaker 4: me when I was twenty two years old. You started
Speaker 4: seeing Clay in the NBA at twenty one years old,
Speaker 4: and like we're thirty four now, Like the changes that
Speaker 4: happens in life throughout the over the course of those years,
Speaker 4: like we never really take into account. I don't really
Speaker 4: even know where I was going with that point because
Speaker 4: my thoughts are all fucked up. So, as I said before,
Speaker 4: if you make it through this episode, kudos to you.
Speaker 4: I told DJ earlier. DJ made me this little paper airplane.
Speaker 4: It's actually it's very ironic that he made me this.
Speaker 4: But they finished the art project at school and DJ
Speaker 4: was coming back with me this week and he brought
Speaker 4: me this to cardboard box and it's it's a cardboard airplane.
Speaker 5: And you know, Clay always make these paper airplanes.
Speaker 4: I always say, like, your kids are connected to you,
Speaker 4: because again I told you, I've been sad for a
Speaker 4: few days and he hasn't been with me, and he
Speaker 4: made this cardboard paper airplane. But it's cardboard and you know,
Speaker 4: like play always make these paper airplanes and it got
Speaker 4: like cutouts to like me Steph Clay and like this
Speaker 4: person he drew, which I assumed. I'm like, oh, and
Speaker 4: it's you. And he's like and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: by the way, he just gave me that just more
Speaker 4: like by the way, Clay not gonna be on our
Speaker 4: team no more.
Speaker 5: And he's like what.
Speaker 4: I'm like, he going to the to the Dallas with
Speaker 4: Luca and he's like, well, why can't we get Luca? Like, uh,
Speaker 4: it don't work that way, and I don't need to
Speaker 4: teach you about the salary cap.
Speaker 5: Luca make way too much money for us to get Luca.
Speaker 4: But and he just was like sitting there side like
Speaker 4: about a cry.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also oddly, uh, the other day, I was landing in
Speaker 4: Boulder to meet some friends to go to the NASK
Speaker 4: concert at the Red Rocks, which was incredible, and like
Speaker 4: I'm standing outside the FBO and like a truck pulls up.
Speaker 5: Our driver hadn't arrived.
Speaker 4: And the truck pulls up and it's honking and it
Speaker 4: looks like an Uber driver. It's like a black suv
Speaker 4: and honking and I look and I'm like, I know
Speaker 4: that's not our driver, late and honking at me. So
Speaker 4: I just turned back and then it honks again and
Speaker 4: I look and he turns a little bit because there's
Speaker 4: a glare on the wish and it's Klay Thompson. I
Speaker 4: bump into Klay Thompson like a day or two after
Speaker 4: he give me this is Sunday. So he called me
Speaker 4: and I bumped into Clay randomly outside.
Speaker 5: The FBO and Denver.
Speaker 4: I don't know, he couldn't really look at me, and
Speaker 4: it was very like odd situations. I'm sitting there with
Speaker 4: my family and my wife's like, oh my god, Clay,
Speaker 4: like when when he called me on the phone, She's
Speaker 4: like stop and she's like I'm about to cry. And
Speaker 4: she said it reminded her of last year. So last
Speaker 4: year during free agency, I called Clay and I called
Speaker 4: Steph separate calls and Steve and I was just telling
Speaker 4: him like, yo, I'm leaving. I'm going to Memphis, and
Speaker 4: I remember that call with him, so I was going
Speaker 4: to leave and she said we were in Paris, and
Speaker 4: she's like, it's reminded me when we were in Paris
Speaker 4: and you was calling him, like she was just sitting
Speaker 4: there crying, and obviously we got to figure it out.
Speaker 4: Shout out to the Lakers and Mike Dunleavy his first
Speaker 4: free agency. They got it, We got it done. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of thoughts on like, oh,
Speaker 4: what happened in the organization, Like everybody kind of want
Speaker 4: to make things out to be.
Speaker 5: Messy and they don't have to be.
Speaker 4: You know, I know this organization would have had Clay
Speaker 4: back as long as he wanted to be, and I.
Speaker 5: Know Clay, as we can see, really didn't want that.
Speaker 4: I know there was the report on like Clay telling
Speaker 4: stuff like not to flex his muscle and all of those.
Speaker 5: Things typical Clay thing to do.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that that's true or not, but that
Speaker 4: would be a Clay response.
Speaker 5: H But.
Speaker 4: All great things must come to an end, And ultimately
Speaker 4: my hope is that I hope the organization, which I
Speaker 4: know they do, appreciates appreciate Clay and everything that he's done.
Speaker 4: I know they do, and I hope Clay appreciates the
Speaker 4: organization for everything this organization has done. The men for
Speaker 4: us because on our on our rides to the top,
Speaker 4: like we had the best organization in the NBA, supporting
Speaker 4: us and giving us the opportunities that we need to
Speaker 4: the things that we need to make that rise, having
Speaker 4: our families around, having our boys on trips, Like organizations
Speaker 4: don't do that stuff, our organization having dinners, and like
Speaker 4: I could take twenty people to dinner if I wanted to,
Speaker 4: And like, these dinners ain't that Like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, cheap, cheapest restaurant.
Speaker 4: They are at the best restaurants in the city we're in, Like,
Speaker 4: and we go to great cities, you know, Like I said,
Speaker 4: haven't letting our boys fly on the plane, families fly
Speaker 4: on the plane. Organization Really it's the best. And so
Speaker 4: I hope his appreciation for the organization, the organization appreciation
Speaker 4: for him. I hope everybody's is exactly where it should be.
Speaker 4: Because breakups don't always have to be messy, co parenting
Speaker 4: relationships don't always have to be shitty. People going their
Speaker 4: separate ways can be a thing of beauty, and this
Speaker 4: is one of those things. Clay's going to the Dallas
Speaker 4: Matterage after thirteen years of domination, after thirteen years of
Speaker 4: building a dynasty, He's moving on to go do something else.
Speaker 4: And like we all can appreciate that and love that
Speaker 4: for him, love that for us, and appreciate the good times.
Speaker 4: Maverick here always he would always tell the story about
Speaker 4: and I actually took this and incorporated in my life.
Speaker 5: A story about his father back in the day.
Speaker 4: When I when I hear the song, like and I
Speaker 4: think about play in the Journey, Uh, the song is
Speaker 4: our green for the good times, you know, and like
Speaker 4: it's kind of like, don't be sad for me, Like
Speaker 4: I just like just remember the good times.
Speaker 5: And so when I think about.
Speaker 4: This, like that's where I'm trying to take my mind,
Speaker 4: Like I try to live my life by that, but
Speaker 4: like remembering the good times. The song is called for
Speaker 4: the good times, but you know, just just remembering the
Speaker 4: good times, the things that we did, and like that's
Speaker 4: where I'm at with it. So yeah, I think I
Speaker 4: am definitely like a little shaken up by it and
Speaker 4: a bit sad. But I think for anybody in life,
Speaker 4: if something has been a certain way for twelve years
Speaker 4: and then it just abruptly changes, I think it'll shake
Speaker 4: you up a bit too, at least if.
Speaker 5: It matters to you. I know it would.
Speaker 4: So that's where I'm at with it. It's been a
Speaker 4: for me. Man, it's been a hell of a run,
Speaker 4: and I am thankful to have shared the court with
Speaker 4: Clay for twelve season, to go to war with him.
Speaker 5: I think back to.
Speaker 4: A story that most people don't remember, because when we
Speaker 4: played the Raptors in the NBA Finals, Clay pulled his
Speaker 4: hamstring off. Y'all, remember, up until that point, Clay had
Speaker 4: never missed a playoff game. And he would, man, Clay
Speaker 4: would roll his ankle, it'll turn purple, and like this
Speaker 4: dude was still playing these playoff games. Like I always
Speaker 4: tell y'all, probably the toughest player I ever played with
Speaker 4: through tough at nails, like and he will go through
Speaker 4: a brick wall for you with you, and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: every time he get hurt in some of those playoffs,
Speaker 4: we'd be like, all right, they got your ass now, shap,
Speaker 4: like you ain't getting through this one. And I remember,
Speaker 4: like it was yesterday and he pulled his hamstring and
Speaker 4: he was trying to work through it, and I remember saying,
Speaker 4: I said, Clay, I know you've been able to get
Speaker 4: through all of these injury still just playing, but they
Speaker 4: got your ass now, like you ain't getting through this
Speaker 4: one with no pull hamstring.
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, right, Dray, whatever, watch me play.
Speaker 4: And we played in San Francisco, I think two or
Speaker 4: three days later, and he did a workout before the
Speaker 4: game to show them that he could play. And like,
Speaker 4: when I tell you he could have played, Now, Rick
Speaker 4: celebrating will always talk about Rick didn't let him play
Speaker 4: and probably wasn't Clay's best interest that Rick didn't let
Speaker 4: him play. But Rick didn't let him play. But when
Speaker 4: I tell you, like where this dude got to in
Speaker 4: two and a half days to do that workout, and like,
Speaker 4: look the way he looked in the workout to actually
Speaker 4: could have played in that game. It wasn't the smartest
Speaker 4: thing for anyone, but I think he showed that he
Speaker 4: could and it was a tough call for Rick, but
Speaker 4: Rick had to make the call.
Speaker 5: And watching him go through, I could not believe.
Speaker 4: It, and it's like wow, like they couldn't even get
Speaker 4: dude out of a poor ham straight. But then he
Speaker 4: came back in game six and we obviously all know
Speaker 4: he's going crazy in game six, we know how it ended,
Speaker 4: but like that's Clay, Like that's who I've had the
Speaker 4: opportunity to go to battle with for for twelve years.
Speaker 5: I got this video of the day after I got suspended.
Speaker 4: I told you all this story a little bit, but
Speaker 4: I got this video I took of the day he
Speaker 4: came to pick me up, picked me up on the boat,
Speaker 4: which is my first time ever.
Speaker 5: Being on the boat with Clay driving.
Speaker 4: Quite frankly, I didn't really want to go on the boat,
Speaker 4: and I had to this day because I just didn't
Speaker 4: know if I trust Clay boat driving. It's a lot
Speaker 4: of water and ocean and I don't know if I
Speaker 4: trust Clay like that. But I had to get on
Speaker 4: the boat this day. And I'm gonna use that video
Speaker 4: on a documentary or something I'm gonna do on this
Speaker 4: one day. But now, man, I'm rambling, and I told
Speaker 4: you all I would because I didn't know where my
Speaker 4: thoughts would take me. So I'm just kind of giving
Speaker 4: you these thoughts as they come up. But I'm gonna
Speaker 4: move on to the rest of free agency. But it's
Speaker 4: been a hell of for twelve years, and I can't
Speaker 4: think Clay enough, Steph enough. But this is about Clay
Speaker 4: man the healthy competition between him and Steph and like
Speaker 4: who is the best shooter. It's one of the highlights
Speaker 4: of my career, just to watch that on the daily,
Speaker 4: to watch them go at it after practice, during practice,
Speaker 4: like like it was beautiful, Like it's incredible to watch.
Speaker 4: So I'm thankful. Someday I'll have more thoughts on this,
Speaker 4: but it's been it's been a hell of twelve years,
Speaker 4: and one day I'll be able to put all these
Speaker 4: thoughts in the place and process them. I can't really
Speaker 4: right now, but saluting my dog Killer Clay Thompson.
Speaker 5: It's been a hell of a ride.
Speaker 4: Chap in other news, as we must keep this podcast rolling,
Speaker 4: Paul George. I mean, there were other fridge and moves,
Speaker 4: and Paul George is the biggest of the summer and
Speaker 4: he is planning to sign a four year deal with
Speaker 4: the seventy six ers. Also a little salty about that because,
Speaker 4: as you all know, Paul George was going to come
Speaker 4: to the Warriors, and we wanted Paul George to come
Speaker 4: to the Warriors, and you know, we always talk about.
Speaker 5: These organizations.
Speaker 4: What they do for their players and whatnot, and for
Speaker 4: us to get Paul Georgia would have taken a sign
Speaker 4: and trade, and the Clippers didn't really want to play
Speaker 4: ball didn't really want to help him get to where he.
Speaker 5: Wanted to go, and so in turn, they get nothing back.
Speaker 4: And you know, whereas you could have gotten something back
Speaker 4: for Paul George walking, they get absolutely nothing. So, uh,
Speaker 4: these these organizations don't always be willing to play ball,
Speaker 4: and I don't think the Clippers were really willing to
Speaker 4: play ball for Paul George, uh to get to the Warriors.
Speaker 4: I kind of understand it. I suppose you don't want
Speaker 4: him in the same division as you because you may
Speaker 4: know how that looks if he comes with us. So, uh,
Speaker 4: that didn't quite pan out for us, which would have
Speaker 4: been nice, would have been really nice. But yeah, so
Speaker 4: they'll lose Paul George for nothing, and that also sucked
Speaker 4: because I think what Paul George could have done if
Speaker 4: he did come to the Dubs would have been amazing.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless not gonna cry with spilled milk. But when
Speaker 4: you talk about these organizations and you all talk about
Speaker 4: players like, oh this this guy.
Speaker 5: Ain't loyal to this organ like, I never want to
Speaker 5: hear that again.
Speaker 4: Because Paul George went there, and when he went there,
Speaker 4: they had plans of competing for a championship. That didn't
Speaker 4: ever really work out, quite frankly, a lot of that
Speaker 4: being due to their injuries and not being healthy, never
Speaker 4: really having an honest opportunity to compete for a championship.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, what did Paul George do while he was
Speaker 4: at the Clippers?
Speaker 5: Maybe for All Star appearances I think.
Speaker 4: And this time with the Clippers, which quite frankly, it's
Speaker 4: pretty up there. When you look at the level of
Speaker 4: achievement that Clippers players have had over the years. You know,
Speaker 4: you had CP who had a great tenure there, you
Speaker 4: had Blake Griffin who had a great tenure there, but
Speaker 4: Paul George's tenure there. As far as all NBA's and
Speaker 4: All Stars, it's not too far off for what the
Speaker 4: best Clippers of all time had to not be willing
Speaker 4: to like play ball on the sign and trade where
Speaker 4: he want to go for. I mean, it is what
Speaker 4: it is, one of the best players in your organization history.
Speaker 4: I just don't really want to hear people saying like, oh,
Speaker 4: that guy wasn't loyal, or like Katie left his team
Speaker 4: or such and such left that team, like they're not loyal,
Speaker 4: Like most of these organizations ain't loyal.
Speaker 5: The Warriors have shown loyalty for sure.
Speaker 4: Dallas has actually shown loyalty when you think about Dirk's ride,
Speaker 4: and like even JJ Burrea going coming back, going coming back,
Speaker 4: Devin Harris going coming back, like when you Seth Curry going, Like,
Speaker 4: they've just proven to be a loyal franchise. The Lakers
Speaker 4: has proven to be a loyal franchise. However, there aren't many.
Speaker 4: There aren't many out there, So San Antonio Spurs has
Speaker 4: proven to be a loyal franchise. But like I just
Speaker 4: named four out of like, so when everybody go on
Speaker 4: Twitter like, oh this guy ain't that to like.
Speaker 5: Stop it.
Speaker 4: It's not a loyal business because you have players sometimes
Speaker 4: that want to do what they think is best for them,
Speaker 4: and teams aren't really willing to play ball, and when
Speaker 4: you'll take nothing as opposed to something, you don't want
Speaker 4: to talk loyalty people. So it should probably be careful
Speaker 4: with all of that talk. Another one that I am
Speaker 4: very sad about it CP and I know it was
Speaker 4: been very documented on like how we hated each other,
Speaker 4: and I am very sad to know that he's leaving
Speaker 4: his team because in my head I'm like, man, see
Speaker 4: she gonna end up finishing career here and that'd be dope.
Speaker 5: Like again, this is the part of business that suck.
Speaker 4: Like one year with seeing I'm like, man, I really
Speaker 4: love this dude, like the incredible one of the best
Speaker 4: teammates I've ever Hadn't any gone and that is the
Speaker 4: weird part about this business man. But that made me
Speaker 4: really sad. So between like in a day of finding
Speaker 4: out between like Clay and the CP, like it's been
Speaker 4: I've been sad these last few days trying to process
Speaker 4: my thoughts, but I'm really sad about that. Nonetheless, CP
Speaker 4: pop still a genius parents CP with Winby to teach
Speaker 4: that young fellow the way. CP one of the greatest
Speaker 4: vests I've ever been around, and I just spent a
Speaker 4: year around him as a VET myself, and he was
Speaker 4: a vet to me. And so that's gonna be great
Speaker 4: for Winby and a young fellow Castle because see Ceep
Speaker 4: going to teach the young fellow Castle all the things
Speaker 4: that he needed to know about the point guard position,
Speaker 4: and he also going to tell him what he's not
Speaker 4: very good at and what he needed to learn, and
Speaker 4: a very elegant way, in a very constructive way. But
Speaker 4: he's going to tell that kid what he good at
Speaker 4: and what he not good at, and what he needed
Speaker 4: to learn and how he needs to see things.
Speaker 5: And that is a genius move by the Spurs. Man, Wow,
Speaker 5: that's a genius move.
Speaker 4: And then then for CP, like you get the opportunity
Speaker 4: also in what year twenty I think this is about
Speaker 4: to be for See, opportunity to go lead the next
Speaker 4: young faith star in the NBA. That's a great opportunity too.
Speaker 4: He get a chance to in a sense kind of
Speaker 4: go help mold him. And like, what an honor because
Speaker 4: you only get that if you've been as great as
Speaker 4: CP hasn't as respected as CP is, that's the only
Speaker 4: way you get the opportunity. CP is a very strong personality,
Speaker 4: always has been super strong personality for them to feel
Speaker 4: comfortable bringing you in there, knowing how strong that personality
Speaker 4: of the years, they feel good about what you're going
Speaker 4: to bring to that kid. That's special, that's extremely special.
Speaker 4: So I'm happy for See because that's a great opportunity
Speaker 4: to go help young mold that young fella.
Speaker 5: Who knows where it can go?
Speaker 4: Because young fella special Winby is special, so who knows
Speaker 4: where it goes? But man that's great, but I'm sad
Speaker 4: to see Sea leave. Nonetheless, Hartenstein, who was in the
Speaker 4: G League a few years ago, three years eighty seven million,
Speaker 4: because he kept his head down, kept working, but was
Speaker 4: great at what he's great at, which is being physical, tough,
Speaker 4: hard nose.
Speaker 5: And then he's added to this game. Got a little
Speaker 5: floater now.
Speaker 4: You know on the offense being make great passes out
Speaker 4: of the pocket when he get the ball in the pocket.
Speaker 5: Make great reads.
Speaker 4: Got an opportunity I think on a minimum contract, maybe
Speaker 4: even non guaranteed, and now look at him three years
Speaker 4: eighty seven million. I love to see those type of
Speaker 4: stories because I'm a product or something like that. And
Speaker 4: so congrats to Hardenstein. That's a big move of OKC.
Speaker 4: They traded for Caruso, they got Hartenstein. OKC not playing.
Speaker 4: They think they got a window and they going for
Speaker 4: it right now. And I always respect teams that make
Speaker 4: it clear we're going for it, and I think Hartenstein
Speaker 4: is a big addition for that. The Young Magic is
Speaker 4: going for three years sixty six million for KCP, two
Speaker 4: time NBA champion.
Speaker 5: I think that's huge for the Magic.
Speaker 4: Huge and I think you know kcps a gray pro
Speaker 4: and when teams start swinging for guys like KCP, that
Speaker 4: mean we're serious, we want to make a run. So
Speaker 4: you know, I was on the shop a few years
Speaker 4: ago and I was talking about going to play the Magic.
Speaker 4: That's a different Magic now, and I can respect that
Speaker 4: they're making a sign and not one year twenty two
Speaker 4: million for KCP.
Speaker 5: You know how teams do.
Speaker 4: I go, I'm gonna bring this guy for one year
Speaker 4: because I don't want to talk. Know what they're saying
Speaker 4: right now is we think we got a window and
Speaker 4: we need to fill some guys in around our young stars,
Speaker 4: and that's what they're doing. So they starting to go
Speaker 4: for it, and I respect that. I saw a couple
Speaker 4: of deals.
Speaker 5: That were like.
Speaker 4: Good deals for the guys, but team taking advantage of
Speaker 4: their situation. Wiggins, Young Wiggins, Aaron Wiggins from OKCUH, the
Speaker 4: young Fella from the Bulls, Patrick Williams.
Speaker 5: A lot of these.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if y'all paid attention, but there's
Speaker 4: been an uptick of five year deals this summer and
Speaker 4: uptick of those, and I wonder why it's interesting because
Speaker 4: new TV money about to kick in and those contracts
Speaker 4: are gonna go up, and you get some of these
Speaker 4: guys locked in on these fires your contracts, and you
Speaker 4: can take advantage of those guys when our TV money
Speaker 4: go up. If you paying and got eighteen million, now
Speaker 4: that may that may not even be the mid level
Speaker 4: when it's new TV money kick in.
Speaker 5: We don't know.
Speaker 4: And so I thought that's been interesting in watching a
Speaker 4: couple of these teams go through these go with these
Speaker 4: five year deals on these guys. A couple of these
Speaker 4: young players, uh. You know, if you Tyrese Maxie and
Speaker 4: you getting the Max MAXI with the Max you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and you sign that Max, you know.
Speaker 4: But a couple of these deals I've been looking at.
Speaker 4: I'm always happy for these young guys, uh, to see
Speaker 4: them get their money because it's life changing, and I
Speaker 4: know the feeling. And I would never I would never
Speaker 4: make a guy feel bad about getting paid. You get
Speaker 4: your money. But that was just something that I saw
Speaker 4: that I thought was interesting, and I just hope that
Speaker 4: those guys are being made aware of all of the things.
Speaker 4: When you first get in your bag, you can't really
Speaker 4: mess around with you. You got take your money. But I
Speaker 4: just hope someone is teaching all these young guys these things,
Speaker 4: laying the options out for them and then saying, hey,
Speaker 4: these are the options. This is what you should do,
Speaker 4: and hare's why I think you should do this, but
Speaker 4: this is what you could do. See, most people will
Speaker 4: tell you this is what you should do, and hair's
Speaker 4: why I think you should but they don't tell you
Speaker 4: what you could do. And I just hope those young
Speaker 4: fellas are being told what they could do. Also, the
Speaker 4: Clippers resigned James Harden two years seventy million, and Russell
Speaker 4: Westbrook opted in, and I saw they wanted to trade him,
Speaker 4: which was shocking to me because I'm like, dang, Russ
Speaker 4: opted in the four and then they're gonna try to
Speaker 4: trade Russ, Like, is that really?
Speaker 5: That was a little weird to me.
Speaker 4: Delo opted in, uh valentiunis going to Washington three years
Speaker 4: thirty million. It's an interesting free agency, but my overall
Speaker 4: feeling with this free agency.
Speaker 5: By the way, the Doves.
Speaker 4: Just signed Kyle Anderson three years twenty seven million, which
Speaker 4: I'm excited about because if you watch the playoffs, you
Speaker 4: know I'm big on Kyle Anderson. Kyle Anderson is a
Speaker 4: guy that you bring in and he just figures it
Speaker 4: out to help you win.
Speaker 5: So I like that signing.
Speaker 4: Doves also bringing in de Anthony Melton one year, twelve million.
Speaker 5: Almost thirteen million. It's an interesting free agency.
Speaker 4: I like those signings, but overall, I'm leaving this free agency.
Speaker 5: I'm sad. Peace the volume